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harsh pilot
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Nice - I do the same

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upbeat vapor
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can someone help me solve this, not sure what to do next

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i know how to do it when C's height is 0

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should i cancell out all masses?

tired zephyr
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ah just conserve the energies , C's height is 25m

upbeat vapor
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what

tired zephyr
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total energy at A = total energy at B = total energy at C

upbeat vapor
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idk what that means

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im trying to find the speed at point c

tired zephyr
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total energy = potential energy + kinetic energy

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and kinetic energy would help you find out the speed at C, the m (mass) get cancelled out in the equation

upbeat vapor
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so ill get rid of all the masses

tired zephyr
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it gets cancelled out so yeah you don't need to know the mass

upbeat vapor
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i did this before but there was a dead end

tired zephyr
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your approach is correct, note that the speed at A is zero since it's released from rest

upbeat vapor
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oh so i can get rid of that whole term?

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correct

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np have a good day/night

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slow tangle
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(arcsinx+arccosx)^2

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slow tangle
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Is it 1-2arcsinx arccosx or π/2-2 arcsinx arccosx

spice knot
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arcsin x and arccos x are not the same thing as sin x and cos x

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so you cant simplify (arcsin x)^2 + (arccos x)^2 to be 1 or to be π/2

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are you trying to take the derivative of (arcsin x + arccos x)^2

spice knot
slow tangle
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function is given f(u)= u^3+(π/2-u)^3......u is arcsinx

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I have to find minimum value of it@spice knot

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F'(u)=3u^2-3(π/2-u)^2

spice knot
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you mean $f(u)=u^3+\qty(\frac\pi2-u)^3$?

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matt07734

slow tangle
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Yes

spice knot
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now whats the derivative of (π/2 - u)^3?

slow tangle
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-3(π/2-u)^2

spice knot
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are you sure? isnt the derivative of u^3 equal to 3u**^2**?

slow tangle
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Ohh

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Forget the power

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F'(u)=3u^2-3(π/2-u)^2=0

spice knot
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and remember this is $\dv{f}{u}$

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matt07734

spice knot
slow tangle
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I got u=π/4

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So it will be the critical point

spice knot
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thats the one critical point of f(u)

slow tangle
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Yes

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What should I do next?

spice knot
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you put this u back into f(u)

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wait

spice knot
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when you d/dx (π/2 - u)^3, you use chain rule

slow tangle
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Damn why?

spice knot
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so thats 3(π/2 - u)^2 (-1)

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the derivative of π/2 - u is -1

slow tangle
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Yes it is and we have -1

slow tangle
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Are you there?

spice knot
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the - was already there

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the -1 changes it to a +

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so it should be f'(u) = 3u^2 + 3(π/2 - u)^2 (= 0)

slow tangle
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Nope

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  • was not there it came from derivative of -u
spice knot
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bruh

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you fixed a typo in the original problem but didnt tell me

slow tangle
spice knot
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anyways for f(u) = u^3 + (π/2 - u)^3, we got that f'(u) = 3u^2 - 3(π/2 - u)^2

slow tangle
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Nope i only fixed u to x?

spice knot
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and for f'(u) = 0 we got u = π/4

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so the x-coordinate of the critical point is π/4
now you do f(π/4) to find the y-coordinate of the critical point

slow tangle
spice knot
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theres so many things wrong with this

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first of all, we calculated u = π/4, not x = π/4

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so that means f(u) = u^3 + (π/2 - u)^3

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so f(π/4) = (π/4)^3 + (π/2 - π/4)^3

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so what is f(π/4)

slow tangle
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Ahhh

spice knot
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you know it would help if you screenshotted the original problem

slow tangle
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But i have solved it

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I was solving with max minima

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So f(π/4) is π^3/32

spice knot
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yes

slow tangle
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Ohh i got it now

spice knot
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do they intend for you to use calculus for this problem

slow tangle
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A option

spice knot
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yes its option A

spice knot
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do you want to see the proper way

slow tangle
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In my exam we just need to save time

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The quickest method

spice knot
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this method isnt quick

slow tangle
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Even unorganised methods via options

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Could you explain any short?

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If you have

spice knot
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u^3 + (π/2 - u)^3
u^3 + (π/2)^3 - 3(π/2)^2 u + 3(π/2) u^2 - u^3
(π/2)^3 - 3(π/2)^2 u + 3(π/2) u^2
π/2 ((π/2)^2 - 3(π/2)u + 3u^2)
π/2 (π^2/4 - 3π/2 u + 3u^2)
3π/2 (π^2/12 - π/2 u + u^2)
3π/2 (u^2 - π/2 u + π^2/12)
complete the square
3π/2 ((u - π/4)^2 - π^2/16 + π^2/12)
3π/2 ((u - π/4)^2 + π^2/48)
3π/2 (u - π/4)^2 + π^3/32
this is a parabola in vertex form
the vertex is (π/4, π^3/32) and the parabola opens up because 3π/2 is positive
so the minimum is 1/32 π^3 and you get C

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the calculus way is faster if you knew how to do the calculus

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How can we know the method we solved previous that it will he max or min?

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let a = {1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10} and b ={0,1,2,3,4} the number of elements in the relation R 2(a-b)^2 + 3(a-b) is ___

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strong crystal
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do you have any idea where to start?

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or have you started?

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if so, what have you done so far?

winter island
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how do I make/count those pairs

strong crystal
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my idea (not sure how great it is, but its something) was to start by letting x=a-b

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then solve 2x^2+3x=0,1,2,3,4

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then find the 10 compliments of x and youre done

winter island
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oh ic, lemme try that rq.

winter island
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cuz I get something weird as the root

strong crystal
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lets start with 0

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2x+3=0, then x=-3, and x=0

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so, we have all pairs (a,a) because a-a=0

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then, x=-3

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so, a-b=-3, a=b-3

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so, how many pairs is that?

strong crystal
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strong crystal
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10 pairs of (a,a)

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But not one pair of (a,a-3)

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Think about it this way
(1,-2)
(2,-1)
(3,0)
(4,1)
(5,2)
(6,3)
(7,4)
(8,5)
(9,6)
(10,7)

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But (1,-2) and (2,-1) and (3,0) arent in A

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How many do we have left?

winter island
strong crystal
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Yes

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So thats 0

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Now we have 1,2,3,4 but these are easier

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2x^2+3x=1 ==> x is not an integer

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And since - is closed on the integers, there is no two integers we could subtract from one another and get a non integer

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So, for 1 from B, there are no relations

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Carry this logic on, and how many total elements are in R?

winter island
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cuz it can't be?

strong crystal
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Because x=a-b

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And if (a,b) are in R, then a,b are in A

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But A is a subset of the integers

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So, if x is not an integer, then by closure of - on integers, a,b must not be integers

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Then a,b must not be in A

strong crystal
winter island
strong crystal
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Wait

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I messed up

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2x+3=0 ==> x=-1.5

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My bad

winter island
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yes?

strong crystal
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So by the same logic that we ignored the others, this one is ignored

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Back to the 10 pairs of (a,a)

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2x^2+3x=2, has a solution at x=-2

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Then all the others will be non integer x, so we ignore those

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So, you may already know, but how many integer pairs (a,a-2) are on the interval [1,10]

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That is, how many pairs (a,a-2) are in A

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strong crystal
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I realized i overlooked this sol

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We were solving
2x^2+3x=0,1,2,3,4

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So, enumerate

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Solve 2x^2+3x=0, then 1, and so on

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Ignore non integer solutions

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They only integer solutions were x=0 for 2x^2+3x=0 and x=-2 for 2x^2+3x=2

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There may be a faster way than examining every element, but it is fast enough to do it this way, and itll work

strong crystal
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Right, and 0

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Quadratics can have two solutions

winter island
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-1/4 and -5/4?

strong crystal
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Wdym

winter island
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for 2x^2+3x=0?

strong crystal
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No, x=0 or x=-1.5, if 2x^2+3x=0

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,w 2*(-1.5)^2-1.5*3

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strong crystal
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Yeah

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Oops

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🤦‍♂️

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My bad

winter island
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,w 2(-0.25)^2-0.25*3

strong crystal
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Either way, we have those solutions, with x=0 and x=2

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And only those two

winter island
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whoops, I mistook b^2 to be 4 while it is 9 while solving bcz I wrote it haphazardly

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it is 0 and -1.5

strong crystal
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Yeah

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And since - is closed under Z, we may ignore x=-1.5

winter island
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Got it, 10 pairs for x=0 and 8 pairs for x=-2

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Thanks!

strong crystal
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Np

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brazen falcon
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Could you help me with circle theorems?

brazen falcon
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I don't understand what to do

gentle totem
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are you supposed to prove it
that's just a statement

brazen falcon
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I think I'm supposed to prove it

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take the angle as some "a" with the tangent and ||start by finding angle BCA||

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urban coral
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Hi for question c how did they get sin60?

hot wadi
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That's the general formula for area of a triangle

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If you have 2 sides of a triangle, let's say of length a and b, and the angle between them is theta

feral ermine
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Sin60 represents h/a

hot wadi
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U can say area is 1/2absin(theta)

feral ermine
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Where h is the height of the triangle

urban coral
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wait but how do they get 60?

feral ermine
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They are trying to do 1/2baseheight

urban coral
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im really confused about that

hot wadi
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They assumed the triangle is equilateral, so all sides are equal and all angles are 60°

feral ermine
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Do one thing join height from the top vertex to the base

urban coral
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TYSMM

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that makes sense :)))

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tyyy

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Hello

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In questions 6 – 9, state the solutions for the quadratic equation depicted in the graph, and explain how you know

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This is my question

rough tundra
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the solution for a quadratic is where it passes the x-axis

torn jolt
rough tundra
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for some quadratic ax^2+bx+c we want where it equals 0

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and the graph equals 0 where it intersects the x-axis

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?

rough tundra
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where is crosses the x-axis

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the point you said is the vertex of the parabola

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-3 and -1 ?

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Can someone help me to finish this?

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It’s moivre formula

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I don’t know what to do after this step

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Is this correct?

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hardy plinth
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if these are 2 different equations how can i multiply the bottom one and then subtract it from the top one and get an answer, can someone try to explain?

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so 2(x-2y)=2*5

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Hello I unfortunately need help

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I am trying to solve this komplex number

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And while calculating the degree I got a number like -0.98

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How am I supposed to work with that really, when it does not have pi in it

deep mauve
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t(cos(-0.98)+isin(-0.98))

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Or what exactly are you trying to find?

solemn garden
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Oh I am solving Re (z1/z2)

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And since -2+3i is not is cartesian form I need to convert it to be

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I mean I can insert this number to the e-function, but idk

deep mauve
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≈ 3.59×e^-i0.98

solemn garden
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But -0.98 is probably wrong

deep mauve
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why

solemn garden
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Not probably it is

deep mauve
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why

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it is true

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as i see

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what is the problem

solemn garden
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Yeah

deep mauve
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(5/3.59)×(e^iπ/2/e^-i0.98)

solemn garden
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I need to + pi so that I have it positive

deep mauve
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Re of this is (5/3.59)×cos(π/2+0.98)

solemn garden
deep mauve
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okay very good

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what is the problem

solemn garden
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pi / 3 = 1.047

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And 1 pi is 180 degrees

deep mauve
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okay

solemn garden
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Meaning with 0.98 it would be less than 60 degrees

solemn garden
deep mauve
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tanx = -tan(180-x)

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tanx = tan(x+180°)

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so it will be the same

solemn garden
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Yeah

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Because previous task had a pi in it

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So I thought every solution has to have a pi

deep mauve
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why would it be like that

solemn garden
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I don't know

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Maybe I just falsely thought every solution has to have a pi

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So it's also fine, when it is 2.159?

deep mauve
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@solemn garden This time the imaginary and reel seems to be wrong

quiet stirrup
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Hint: cos(-atan(x)) =cos(atan(x)) = 1/sqrt(1+x^2))

solemn garden
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I don't understand that

solemn garden
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Oh hmm

deep mauve
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yes @solemn garden

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I think

solemn garden
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I think somewhere I went wrong

deep mauve
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180+098

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rather

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π+0.98

solemn garden
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But the 0.98 is negative

solemn garden
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The orange arrow

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So both π + 0.98 and -0.98 + π, we would get to the same spot

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Since when you add them together you get 2π

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Which is 180° + 180° = 360°

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So both our ways are correct

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I went somewhere wrong

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torn wave
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Good day! How to factorize x^2-2x+1 so that we can cancel out x+1 in the denominator

torn wave
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It's a limit problem

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And if we just factor the numerator normally, the results will be (x-1)^2 which doesn't cancel the (x+1)

dull seal
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Can you show the original problem?

torn wave
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Sure wait I'll ss

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As x approaches -1

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The upload is slow 😭

dull seal
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Xd

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Just type the limit

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I have 5 minutes so better be quick xd

torn wave
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Lim as x approaches -1

(x^2-2x+1)/x+1

dull seal
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You can’t factor here

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Is it asking for one side limit or two sided?

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You can split into the product of two limits

torn wave
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I don't know 😭 the only thing that I know is if you plug in -1 the answer must not be 0

dull seal
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One will be 1/(x+1)

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The other will just be x^2-2x+1

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I have to go now, but you can continue from here, just check these two and you will find what happens when u try from the left and from the right

torn wave
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Ok 🙏 thanks

limpid furnace
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If both limits match, the limit exists

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If they do not match, or one of them doesn’t exist

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Then the limit is not defined

torn wave
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We weren't taught both limits yet, only plugging in first 🥹 but from what ur saying the limit is not defined in this problem?

limpid furnace
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We can always approximate how the limit is going to look, right?

torn wave
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Ohh the -0.9999

limpid furnace
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So let’s say if x is -0.99

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Then we have a positive denominator

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And a positive numerator

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When x is -1.01
We have a negative denominator and a positive numerator

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If you want to be be sure, sub in some more values

But for this question, the left limit approaches negative infinity

And the right limit approaches positive infinity

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Are you still with me?

torn wave
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Ohh I see, i forgot about approximation but now I remember

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You are welcome.

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near mirage
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Are all values of $sin(x)$ unique? Where $x \in \mathbb{Z}$.

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Oğuzhan

near mirage
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This is a random thought I've just thought and I think it is, but just couldn't figure out a straight proof of this

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Maybe because its period is irrational

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But how does that affect it 🤔

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near mirage
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Oh yeah that's a great example

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Just remembered this formula, gonna try it

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Not sure where to go with this one either

stiff musk
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if sin(m) = sin(n), then cos(n) is either +cos(m) or -cos(m)
(just by looking at the unit circle)

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if cos(n) = cos(m) then:
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you can reason similarly if cos(n) = -cos(m)

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Is the second last inequality correct in this proof

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So when I was writing it, my idea was like "oh |z| should be a least something, but it should be greater than 0, so like I get |z| < |w| - \delta" and then the way i got that formula was "solve 2\delta/|w|-\delta = \epsilon or |w| - \delta should be a number above zero

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Linear Algebra: Matrices

Hey I'm working on a question where I need to construct a 3x4 matrix augmented with a 3x1 matrix where the solution should be the vector: [3, -2 , 1. 0].

I'm just wondering if there is a general way to approach these types of questions

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so like I'm given control on making an augmented matrix; however, the solution should be [3, -2, 1, 0]

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well you can come up with a very simple set of equations

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but if you only have 3 equations then you won't be able to uniquely specify a 4-vector

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yea thats what I want, but

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I have this so far, but then x4 would be free and would be allowed to be anything which means that x4 != 0

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yeah

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with 3 equations (rows) you can't uniquely specify a 4-vector

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wdym? like are u saying it's not possible?

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yeah

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oh yea that makes sense, bec we can only have 3 leading 1's; therefore, the last column will always be free...

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"give an example of a 3x4 matrix A and a 3x1 vector b such that the solution set of the augmented matrix [A|b] is a line which has a direction vector [3, -2, 1, 0]"

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I don't understand why I keep getting this error code

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the first code displays the sequences an and gn

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Go find a python server

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the second code works out the first value where the difference between the two sequences is less than 0.001

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i went to a python server but they said they don't understand the maths

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Do you not know python?

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this is debugging python code

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Hi I tried to solve this limit

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I substitute cos(2x) and multiple it whit sin/cos of the tan(X)

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Multiply top and bottom by 1+cos(2x)

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I am really struggling with it

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what are you stuck on

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I have

torn jolt
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like think

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The denominator

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yeah

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I can write it in other ways

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Well, cos ^2 (2x) = cos^4 - 2cos^ 2 • sin ^ 2 + Sen ^ 4

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2 sin^2x is also posibel

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can you expand cos(2x) and try?

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it will be 2sin^2 (x)

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which is whole deniminator

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Cos ^2 - sin ^2

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1 - of that u said

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And the ^2?

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wdym?

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please do it

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you will get like x/sin(2x)

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I hopw u got it

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I got this

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I even can cancel the sin (X)

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ok so 2 c (t) s(t) as you know obviouisly = sin(2t)

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The limit is still indeterminate

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you need to find limit of x/sin(2x)

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which you know very well using sandwich theorem or any other rule like L'hospital rule

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Can anyone help me find d?

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Hint: Consider what is shared between both triangles (it’s ||side CD||)

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That doesn’t rlly matter

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So, how do I write the function f

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How do i change the origin point

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y = 4

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here exactly

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how do i freely move that function as a whole

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replace y with (y-k) and replace x with (x-h)

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can u explain in detail

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i mean take ur equation

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but with (x-h)

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also

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wdym you're writing a mathematics assessment like you're creating a test for people to take?

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You draw a 5 card power hand and are thrilled to discover it is a straight flush (all the cards are the same suit in the same order). How many ways can you be delt a straight flush? Do not include a royal flush (10, J, Q, K, A of the same suit.

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I have my test in 20 mins i need help fast

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How many cards can your straight start with?

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the starting card determines the entire straight flush

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Um

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You should do this more time before the test btw, doing it now mostly gives stress and you won't learn that much more

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All of them

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J?

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The answer is 36

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It can start with 8 of them

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Almost, you can start with an ace I think

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?

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Yeah, 9 for each suit

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Okay

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Then the next possible u can have 8 cards

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What I meant was, if you have a straight flush what possible cards can it start with. Those are A23456789, so 9 possibilities for just one suit

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Mhm

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So how many are there for all 4 suits?

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36

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Cus 9 times 4

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Yes, and that's the answer

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But why would you only take into account the starting number

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It uniquely defines a straight flush, the other 4 cards just follow

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If I have a straight flush that starts with 5 of spades, then 6, 7, 8, 9 must come after (also spades)

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Why isnt it this

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And then multiply each one for the number of possible

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Since order doesn't matter here, you can assume your hand is in increasing order

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You add them, in this case it works because each starting card determines the rest of the hand

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If there are 9 possibilities for the first card, there is just 1 for the next one in each of those 9 cases

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Ohhh

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Cus they would follow in order

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Yes

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Ok I see

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What does it mean in the problem when it talks about a royal flush

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It means that 10, J, Q, K, A doesn't count as a straight flush, because it is a royal flush

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And the 9 starting possible eliminates that option right

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Cus we cant start with 10

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Yes

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otherwise it would have been 10 starting options

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How many positive integers can be formed from the numbers 1 through 9, such that the sum of the numbers is odd?

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1×2×3×4×5×6×7×8×9 ? Is this answer right?

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9! would be all possible arrangement of digits 1-9 but your problem has a constraint

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how do i simplify

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change to exponent of 1/3 then distribute

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so( -27c^19 x^12)^1/3

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$\sqrt[a]{b}^c=b^{c/a}$

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Martin

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👍

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then what do i do

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$(a\cdot b)^{c/d}=a^{c/d}\cdot b^{c/d}$

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that is what Anson meant by distributing the 1/3

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(a * b)^c=a^c * b^c

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-27c^19/3 * x^4?

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dont forget to also apply it to the 27

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-9c^19/3?

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now dont forget the x 🙂

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-9c^19/3 * 1/3x^4

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if 27^(1/3)=9, then 9^3=27
which is not true

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also idk how you got that 1/3 infront of the x^4

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you already did x^12/3=x^4

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so its -3c^19/3 * x^4

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HOWEVER

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as a side note

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this now simplified form is not exactly the same as before

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we also have to distribute this 1/3 to the minus sign, so we get a
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but that is not the full picture

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here, we can see that if we are dealing with complex numbers, then we actually get three results

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I cannot see

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school wifi

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thats ok, you are not supposed to consider these two other solutions

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just thought i'd mention them

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so for your case, your result is correct 👍

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yayy

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can you help me with a few other algebra problems

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sure thing

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I think I have solved at least very similar problems but for this one I keep getting it wrong

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we can start by simplifying the denominator

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like how x^1 * x^1 = x^2

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x^-9/14 y^1/4

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yep

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now, we can use this property:
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doing so, we have to change the sign of the exponent (which is the same as raising it the power of -1)

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would i do x^-9/14 -(-8/7) for x?

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we wanna move everything to the numerator, not the denominator
so for x, we would get -8/7 + 9/14

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oh ok

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-7/14 = -1/2?

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yep

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do i also do that with y

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yep

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1/24-1/4 = -5/24

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👍

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so x^-1/2 and y ^-5/24

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what do I do with the 2 numbers now

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we can leave them like this
some people might prefer them to be expressed with roots, but this is as simplified as it gets

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some people would also prefer these two numbers to instead be in the denominator, because then the exponent will be positive

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would it be like 1/x^1/2 * y^24

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proof by definition

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By definition of limit? As in, you must use only the epsilon limit definition of sequences?

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I had trouble with this problem

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have u seen derivatives?

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Yes, but we haven't used them yet to solve problems

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well, they exist to be used

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sorry I mean my class has not taught them yet

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Is there some other way to solve this problem or can it only be done through derivatives?

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limits? xd

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yes thats what I mean sorry 😆

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a derivative is a limit in the end

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I assume my math must be off thne

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so idk

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ah ok

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let me check my notes

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no I dont think I am

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idk what he can use

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dont u have other examples on ur notes?

glad pine
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I had an earlier question I solved that was similar

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Let me get it

steel mist
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yes pls

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||because if u dont know about derivatives, only way is u thinking and guessing what a derivative is xD||

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but show what u have done

glad pine
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f(x)= -x^2 +4x

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Find the slope m and an equation for the line L tangent to the graph of f at the point (−1, −5)

steel mist
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and how did u solve it?

glad pine
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I did

steel mist
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how

glad pine
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lim x towards 1

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sorry im writing it out

steel mist
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1 or -1?

glad pine
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lim x towards -1 (-(-x-5)(x+1))/(x+1)

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sorry towards -1

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I plugged in the numbers to the formula (f(x)-f(a))/(x-a) = L

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to find L

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and then I used L as m in y=mx+b

steel mist
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yeah

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exactly that

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is the definition of derivative

glad pine
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wait really

steel mist
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the derivative of a function at a point a is the slope of that function and that point

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and m is indeed the slope

steel mist
glad pine
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ohhhhh

steel mist
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and then u use that to build ur tangent

glad pine
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okay

steel mist
glad pine
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I am struggling still, I tried to doing something similar for the problem and I was getting it wrong

steel mist
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since for building a line u need at least 2 points

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what u do to build the tangent is picking 2 points, one at x and the other at x+h

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then u make that h super small

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so those point are rlly rlly close

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as close as u want

glad pine
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cant you build a tangent using a point and the original function?

steel mist
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resulting in a line that intersects f only on that point

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u can

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wait, holdon

glad pine
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ok

steel mist
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U have ur f(x), and ur point a

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a+h is another point, so now u can build a line that passes through both points, right? the orange one

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if u make, with a limit, h close to 0

glad pine
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and h is just any constant?

steel mist
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both points will be super close

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h is the only variable

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a is a number, u know it

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-1, 8, 5

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whatever

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on that draw we can say a=1

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and a+h whatever

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the point is, u make the limit as h goes to 0, so both points get closer and closer

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almost the same point, so u can build the tangent

glad pine
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ohhh

steel mist
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if u have this triangle, what is the slope?

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y/x, no?

glad pine
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yes

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rise/run

steel mist
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sorry for my bad draw xd

glad pine
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I did ((4x^2+1/2)-(19/2))/(x-(-3/2) for my problem

steel mist
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do u understand the picture?

glad pine
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Yes

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what is the mark next to a+h and a

steel mist
glad pine
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oh its f

steel mist
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yeah xd it is an f

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so u can build a rect triangle

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with base (a+h-a) = h

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and height f(a+h)-f(a)

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no?

glad pine
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I guess so

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I am just confused why I cannot use the formula I used earlier for this problem again

steel mist
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u can, im explaining u where it comes from

glad pine
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ohh

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do u mind if I save this picture?

steel mist
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i guess children nowadays dont care about where things come from and they only wanna be machines blindly applying formulas

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so w/e, im not wasting my time more. Good luck

glad pine
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I just didn't understand what you were getting at

steel mist
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do u want me to continue?

glad pine
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yes

steel mist
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so on that picture, i have a point a, and another point a+h, where h is a real number

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like a slider

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and offset

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so far so good?

glad pine
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ye

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yes

steel mist
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and the images is just f(a) and f(a+h)

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no? on y-axe

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so u can build a triangle, what i paint in blue

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and the length of the base is end-start

glad pine
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so the triangle has width h and height f(h)?

steel mist
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end = a+h cuz it is the furthest point

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no

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it has width h

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but height

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is f(a+h)-f(a)

glad pine
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ohhh

steel mist
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look on the y-axe

glad pine
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thats not the same

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roger

steel mist
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it is

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this is like a zoom

glad pine
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f(a+h) - f(a) = f(h)? or no?

steel mist
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no???

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hell no XD

glad pine
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ok thats what I said

steel mist
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not even close

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so we have that triangle

glad pine
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yes

steel mist
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now, whats the slope of that triangle?

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it is y offset divided by x offset

glad pine
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(f(a+h)-f(h))/h

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right?

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that is sthe slope?

steel mist
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hence $\frac{f(a+h)-f(a)}{h}$

glossy valveBOT
steel mist
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no?

glad pine
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yesss

steel mist
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so if u make h super small

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which in mathematics means a limit

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u have the slope on point a

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of that line

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this is indeed the derivative

glad pine
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ok

steel mist
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also the slope of the line u are looking for

glad pine
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the derivative is the slope of a line based on a single point?

steel mist
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$y-f(a) = f'(a)(x-a)$

glossy valveBOT
glad pine
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sorry I mean based on two points

steel mist
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and this is one of the multiple ways of describing a line

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actually, very usefull for ur problem

steel mist
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u dont care what happens at x=a

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u care what happens NEAR a

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so those points are never the same

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they are super close

glad pine
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as the line approaches the limit

steel mist
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as close as u want

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but never the same

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so u have 2 different points

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they can be super close, but they are different

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and with 2 points, u can build a line

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u have a=1 and a+h=1.00000000000000000000000000001

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they are suuuuuper close

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but they arent the same point

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so u can build the line

glad pine
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doesnt this often times make the question harder if you have such a small number?

steel mist
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no

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again, u are not a machine plugin numbers and solving

glad pine
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I suppose I am a human

steel mist
glossy valveBOT
steel mist
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so we need to find the slope first

glad pine
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yes

steel mist
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$y-f(a) = f'(a)(x-a)$ because on this formula for a line, we need f'(a), which is the slope

glossy valveBOT
steel mist
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so just do the thing

glad pine
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yes the slope is 6

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and from there we plug back into the original equation

steel mist
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$\lim_{x\to-1} \frac{-(-1+h)^2+4(-1+h)}{-1}$

glad pine
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and then get b

steel mist
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damn, sec, i forgot the syntax

glad pine
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ah

steel mist
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no, wait

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$\lim_{h\to0} \frac{-(x+h)^2+4(x+h) - (-x^2+4x)}{h}$

glossy valveBOT
steel mist
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do u see that $f(x+h) = -(x+h)^2+4(x+h)$?

glossy valveBOT
glad pine
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yes

steel mist
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okey, and $f(x) = -x^2+4x$

glossy valveBOT
glad pine
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and the other part at the numerator is the original equation

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this is the TRIANGLE

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wow

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y/x

steel mist
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so u have to solve that limit

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and the limit will depend on x, of course

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and then, that will be f'(x)

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then u do f'(-1)

glad pine
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I understand that h is a variable

steel mist
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and u get the slope

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no, i dont mean that

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okey imma help u with this

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but u do the other alone

glad pine
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how can I solve when I have two variables?

steel mist
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We have this: $\lim_{h\to0} \frac{-(x+h)^2+4(x+h) - (-x^2+4x)}{h}$

glossy valveBOT
steel mist
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so lets do some algebra (imma use paint now)

glad pine
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ok

steel mist
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correct me if im wrong with any sign. I am doing algebra

glad pine
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ok

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I am confused how do you solve both for x and h

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oh wait

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you make h 0

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nevermind I understand

steel mist
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yeah

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h tends to 0

next hawk
steel mist
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yeah, i messed up on a sign

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that was a +, not a -

next hawk
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it was left on purpose

steel mist
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but anyway, what gert did

next hawk
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but for another time

steel mist
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finally u end up with -2x + 4

glad pine
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so you get -2x+4

steel mist
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this is f'(x)

glad pine
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this is the derivative?

steel mist
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and now u want the slope on x=-1???

next hawk
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don't remove the (, ) to early

steel mist
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u plug -1 there

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cuz exercise telling u on point (-1, -5)

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so x = -1

glad pine
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yes

steel mist
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so 2 * (-1) + 4

glad pine
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so does that give us a slope of -2?

steel mist
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2

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possitive

glad pine
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2 lol whoops

steel mist
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so now u go back to

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$y-f(a) = f'(a)(x-a)$

glossy valveBOT
steel mist
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and u have all u need

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y is y. As the y-axe on a line