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Yes im subsituting on the formula
ok, show me
how
yes
where are these coming from?
The angle is pi/3
also, this would be pi/9, but we dont need it
no
Why 9?
Nvm i get it why
So cos(pi/3)
1/2
+isin(pi/3)
Sqrt3/2
Ok it checks out
Ty bro
yw
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Im not sure where to start
so to calc the value of g, you need to substitute in 3, right?
so would i put 3 in for the x?
sooo 2(3)+4?
g(3)=10
.
so i do the 2(3)+4 now
okayy
how do I find w tho?
cause its not given like the previous
or would it be 3
you cant find it
so itd stay 3w
why the first?
cause the w cant be changed no?
yeah
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not sure how to begin kinda
i get its the same concept
but like the not =4 messing me up
dont worry about it, its just there so we dont divide with 0
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Yo
Ok so the question is
"Solve the following system of linear equations by using gauss jordan method"
This is my work
I almost did everything correctly
The answer is x= 1 , y=3 , z=5
But I got x= 1/3 , y= 3, z= 5
I got the value of x wrong
But I did something wrong in the second last step
Can someone help me out on how I can operate on row 1 in this case?
Can someone help me in pointing out my mistake?
I can't follow what your strategy is, why are you changing your pivot columns that are already 1's into 3's and other numbers
thats what i learnt in my school
afaik im doing that cuz the aim is to get a diagonal matrix in the end
i think i found my mistake
I mean, yes, if you have a diagonal matrix, you can get the final answer even if they aren't 1's but you are needlessly complicated it. I have a hard time believing they taught you to do that because you're just adding extra steps and then undoing them later
ik its a long ass method
gauss jordan method
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There are a million ways to solve this, and I can solve it easily, it's just that I don't know when I try FACTORING it doesn't work.
how do u factor it
you can't factorise it over the reals
we're talking about complex space?
but you could factor over complex
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blue is my attempt
um i realize i got it wrong bc it says u' = 2xe^x + x^2e^x
but why does u' = 2xe^x + x^2e^x?
shouldnt it be 2x*e^x
eh ill figure it out
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how to reverse engineer the distance formula? like I got a distance and I want to get 2 x,y points
formula:
notice that
there are infinitely many pairs of such the points
knowing only the distance between the two points isn't sufficient to find them exactly
and how do I get a triangle's 3 edge points? I already calculated almost every other data of the triangle
maybe show us the original problem
What's the original question
I used the sqrt(3) thingy and it wasn't accurate
this is the original question
so then what's "other data"
area
perimeter
a_height
b_height
c_height
a_median
b_median
c_median
alpha
beta
delta
a
b
c
inside circle
outside circle
well then do you have any data that would lay down the location of this triangle on a coordinate plane
like what?
equations/coordinates
no

like how does this website calculate the Vertex coordinates?
https://www.calculator.net/triangle-calculator.html?vc=90&vx=4&vy=3&va=&vz=&vb=&angleunits=d&x=83&y=4
This free triangle calculator computes the edges, angles, area, height, perimeter, median, as well as other values and a diagram of the resulting triangle.
I think it assumes A lies at the origin
okay then I do too now how to calculate with that?
what's more B seems to be positioned at x-axis
so then A, B are very easy to find
C can be find in many ways, one of them is
y coordinate of C is just hc
okay so how to calc B?
B = (side c, 0) in this case
and how to get C[x]?
e.g. distance formula, AC is already known
Let's say A = (x1, y1), C = (x2, y2)
x1, y1, y2 are known (and d also obviously)
find x2
using this
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Hey,
I'm having a hard time understanding eigenspaces
Correct me if im wrong, but from what i understand its a subspace of the vectorspace on which the linear transformation was defined, and it is spanned by the eigenvectors of a certain eigenvalue
Yes, it's the subspace that contains all eigenvectors (including 0) of a certain eigenvalue
It contains 0 because every subspace must contain 0, right?
What I dont understand is how to find that subspace, how to use it to find the eigenvectors of a eigenvalues
well quite literally, finding the eigenvectors for an eigenvalue is the same thing as finding the corresponding eigenspace
Sorry I meant the number of linearly independent eigenvectors.
How do I construct it? (the matrix of which its columns are the independent eigenvectors)
Usually you just do it solving for the equation $AX = \lambda X$
rafilou2003
you get a system of equations in the coordinates of X
reduce the system to echelon form
isnt that finding the eigenvalues though?
no, once you found the eigenvalues, you don't solve for $\lambda$ anymore, you solve for $X$
rafilou2003
you plug in $\lambda$ = the eigenvalues that you found
rafilou2003
Right, that makes sense.
And so if I have more than 1 eigenvector, when I reduce the matrix to its echlon form I get that the rows/columns of the matrix are linearly dependent?
As soon as you have 1 eigenvector, resulting rows will be linearly dependent
More precisely, if A has n rows and n columns :
With 1 eigenvector, A will have n-1 independent rows,
With 2 linearly independent eigenvectors, A will have n-2 independent rows,
etc
I dont really understand
Ok I should rephrase a bit
If I have 1 eigenvector, should the system have only 1 solution? Meaning all the rows/columns of the matrix are linearly independent
No, if you have 1 eigenvector, name it x, then all vectors "cx" are also eigenvectors
So the system has an infinity of solutions
ohhh right...
so A has n-1 independent rows (assuming you cannot find another eigenvector than "cx")
The more linearly independent eigenvectors A has (for a same eigenvalue), the less independent rows it will result it
I think I get it, i just need to play with it more
where should I ask if i have any more questions? here?
wait one last question:
if I have eigenvector (1,1,1), when I multiply it with the matrix assosiated to the linear transformation I should get the span of (1,1,1) right?
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i have to find inverse or somethign like this one
?
they explain this in 18 sec ๐
maybe i just over think
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How do I graph the reciprocal function of x^2 - 4?
I am having trouble sketching the asymptotes.
hi there. What's the problem with the asymptotes?
I already graphed y= x^2 - 4 between the vertical asymptotes of x= 2 and x=-2 but the direction of my hyperbola is wrong.
can you show your steps on how you're graphing it? What comes next after finding the asympotes?
I graphed my parabola which is a concave downwards. Then I found points near the asymptote and plotted them into the equation and it formed a hyperbola. I don't understand what is the purpose of finding points near the asymptotes in the first place.
to see whether or not it's increasing or decreasing. If the points are increasing, then you know that your function is increasing towards the asymptote, then decreasing if it's going down,etc.
As an example, let's take the asymptote x = -2.
For the recipricol of f(x) = 1/(x^2 - 4),
If we do:
f(-5) โ 0.0476
f(-4) โ 0.08333
f(-3) โ 0.2
f(-2.5) โ 0.444
f(-2.1) โ 2.439
(fixed a value)
And so on and so forth, we see that it's increasing on the left hand side as x approches -2
like so
What class is this for? Can you use derivatives? That would make predicting the behavior slightly easier with a sign chart ๐
this is pre-calculus year 10
ah ok
but yes I understand
so no deriviatives
no, idk what that is
you'll learn in calculus
is it hard
I will say the calculus is the easy part, what trips people is the algebra, so make sure you know your algebra properties and you'll be golden
Basically what calculus does is study curves. So like we know that for a linear equation the slope is rise/run and it's consistent. But waht about something like sin(x) or x^2 or ln(sin(cos(2x + 3))? Derivatives are tools to help understand behavior in curves and slope ๐
looks scary
it's not as bad as it seems
there are some amazing tools that take some time to get used to but make it easy work
you got it ๐
oh
back on track
actually scratch that
that's inverse equations, my bad lol
yeah sorry scratch that it doesn't work here lol
that's if the function has an inverse ๐
But you'll learn that down the line
thank you for the help and the extra info
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Hmm i'm not getting 2 after simplifying. any help?
im lookin at this beau gimme a min ๐
thanks, take your time
Do you by any chance have the original question? It could be possible something was mixed up, because I'm not getting the same result
ah okay I see, you just condensed it
Yeah
hopefully you're expected to be able to use a calculator, otherwise simplifying this wont be so fun:
ok, start by tearing each number into individual factors, and see what you can cancel
Yeah i've tried that about 3 times now, didn't get 2 though
lemme try again
no luck.
damn, i tried factoring it myself but seems i got a bigger result than expected
Yeah i'm getting an absurd value;
(20^7/3^5)
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@primal thicket do you still need the problem solved?
idk how any of the chat commands work but i broke the porblem down into something that looks like
( 8^7 * 2^7 * 5^5 * 5^5 * 3^3 * 3^3 * 3^3 ) / ( 8^7 * 3^7 * 8^5 * 3^5 * 8^3 * 8^3 * 2^3 )
before just eliminating like terms (?) sorry if thats the wrong terminology. anyways it wokred out to 16/8 in the end doing it that way. hope that first part helps
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Ahh no doubtnut topper solutions please
How do you generally solve an (infinite)-(infinite) indefinite limit
Error this question might be off
I don't see the right answer as a choice
I checked on wolfram alpha just to be sure 
But anyways to find the right answer try completing the square
Nevermind i solved it by rationalization
Turtle after so many days
I will make it 0/0
A is right answer
No look
If you make it infinite/infinite
The expression you want is $x - 1/2$
992qqoloy
That would require a to be -1 and b to be 1/2
As a helper, please do not give out answers that could be copied as a homework solution. Have the student work through the problem themselves and guide them along the way.
Okay then why are you asking this question
The way the problem is written since it says - (ax + b) then 1, - 1/2 should be wrong cus that would give you - x + 1/2
,w limit of {โ(x^2-x+1)-x+1/2}
x tends to infinity
X x
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=Lim+x+to+-infinity+sqrt((x+-+1%2F2)^2+%2B+3%2F4)+-+x+%2B+1%2F2 idk why it's being stubborn lol
But yeah goes to infinity
yeah
When we change -infinity to infinity what does it affect our function?
I swamped the limit and checked it is giving me option A
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,w limit of {โ(x^2+x+1)-x-1/2}
x tends to infinity
So by the question answer should be a=1 and b =1/2 right?
,w limit of {โ(x^2-x+1)-x-1/2}
x tends to -infinity
Hmm well the way I did it is I noticed the square root term tended to $\sqrt{(x - 1/2)^2}$ as x went to negative infinity, which would be 1/2 - x when x is a big negative number
992qqoloy
I'm still tryna see what goes wrong with your way tho 
Oh wait it shouldn't change anything, there's no reason to change the -x to a +x
Wait hmm
OK nvm still tryna figure out what goes wrong with rationalizing 
$(\sqrt{x^2 - x +1})^2 = x^2 - x + 1$ as it's always positive, I think
. I think the danger is in the denominator then? Cus that doesn't tend to infinity when x goes to negative infinity
992qqoloy
Cus the $ax + b$ term becomes increasingly negative
992qqoloy
But the square root positive
Well if $a$ is positive it becomes increasingly negative I mean
992qqoloy
So from $a^2 =1$ you take the negative solution
992qqoloy
And then that also switches the sign of $b$ from $-2ab = - 1$ when x goes to -infinity compared to when it goes to infinity
992qqoloy
So yeh that's it, it's that you want the denominator to tend to $\infty$, and the choice of $a$ and therefore $b$ that does that depends on whether $x$ goes to negative or positive infinity
992qqoloy
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,w limit of {โ(x^2-x+1)+x-1/2}
x tends to -infinity
I checked all the options into wolfram now
You are the right mistake in the denominator
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can someone check whether this is correct?
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sorry
just one more question
@strange ether
ye?
I understand from before that you factor 999 from itself resulting in +1
but here
shouldn't +1 be 999/998?
yes
it's from a tomrocksmaths video
i was just trying to understand the steps
so it was a mistake?
probably
okay thank you
or most likely just an approximate to express it more easily i guess
anyways thanks
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Given a set with a cardinality of n
How many subsets in the powerset of the previous set have a cardinality of I where I is less than or equal to n?
$$\abs{A} = n$$
$$ B = { x | x \subseteq P(A), \abs{x} = I }$$
$$\abs{B} = ?$$
help me
so basically you are asking for the cardinality of P(A)?
no
The cardinality of B which is a subset of P(A)
The amount of sets that contain I elements in P(A)
oh alright, so basically how many sets in P(A) that have cardinality of I
hmm couldn't you just think of this as ways of choosing I's element out of A (without order)?
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well I was kind of asking a leading question but yes, it's basically asking you how many ways you can choose I elements out of a set of n elements
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help me
Make sense
TY
I just finished the part of my book that goes over permutations, did not have this information before
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could someone check if this equation works?
yeah, that is an improper integral with an infinite discontinuity at x=0
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What is echelon and non echelon matrices and what's the difference between the two?
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did you mean row-echelon form?
In linear algebra, a matrix is in echelon form if it has the shape resulting from a Gaussian elimination.
A matrix being in row echelon form means that Gaussian elimination has operated on the rows, and
column echelon form means that Gaussian elimination has operated on the columns. In other words, a matrix is in column echelon form if its tran...
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Would this be valid?
probably more verbose than necessary but fine
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Can someone correct this exponential equation?
yyou forgot the x in second line exponent
Oh wrd thanks g
But the answer is still 1 right?
So the whole thing will be:
3x = 4x-4
yes... techincally
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If f is an even function and g is an odd functioon, determine wether the composites
f o f f o g g o f g o g
are even, odd or neither
I know that f o f is still even and g o g is still odd, but how would i work out f o g or g o f?
check them against the defns of even/odd functions
f(x)
is even
g(x) is odd
then
f(x) = f(-x)
g(x) = -g(-x)
h(x) = (f o g)(x) = f(g(x))
I subsituted in -x but for f o g and g o f it came back as both even so wasnt sure if it was the right aproach
if h(x) is even
function
well, let's check
h(-x) = f(g(-x))
=f(-g(x))
=f(g(x))
=h(x)
Ah so none of the functions would be neither odd nor even?
what?
Every functions is odd or even? None are neither?
well
i supposed
f(x) is even function
and g(x) is odd function
and proved (f o g)(x) is even function

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long time no see renato
godess melo, good morning
night in my country lmao
so you're counting permutations of (1, 2, 3, ..., n) such that the inequality is satisfied ?
yes
when you have something like this start by checking small cases
like n = 3 or n = 4
I already tried, for 1 and 2, first permutations are satisfied
(1) and (1,2), (2,1), for 2 it works bothways
yeah I was trying for >= 3
for n >= 3 I think has to be of the form
a_n = n or (a_n-1 = n and a_n = n - 1)
this ends up not being the case
i got the answer with some code that just bruteforces it and the pattern is obvious after some higher n
still thinking abt a proof tho
ah i see
think about having a solution for n=k and consider n=k+1
you need to 'insert' the k+1 into the old list, but it turns out theres not many places you can put it...
well, for n = k, a_k = k , which is of the form a_n = n
i think
im still thinking about the n = k+1
well you can clearly always add the k+1 to the end, correct?
well, if
n = k + 1
then , (k+1)a_k+1
and given that a_k+1 = k+1
this becomes?
(k+1)^2
however, does this satisfy the inequality?
the maximum that the old k_ak can be is k*k
this is certainly less than (k+1)^2
so adding k+1 to the end works for all valid sequences of length k to produce one which is valid as length k+1
now consider what happens if you insert it 1 before the end
you mean
$$a_k = k + 1 \quad \text{while} \quad a_{k+1} \in {1, 2, \ldots, k}$$
In that case, this must hold true:
$$ka_k \leq (k+1)a_{k+1}$$
But given $$a_k = k + 1,$$
$$k(k+1) \leq (k+1)a_{k+1}$$
I see, so we can divide by $$k+1$$ since it's a positive integer, yielding:
$$k \leq a_{k+1}$$
So, for any valid permutation of length $$k$$, there are two ways to extend it to a valid permutation of length $$k + 1$$:
Either by adding $$k + 1$$ to the end?
Or inserting $$k + 1$$ at position $$k$$ while having $$a_{k+1} = k$$?
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i need more hints im hard stuck
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hi again renato, I was thinking about your problem, and I think I've more or less figured out a proof, I still have some things to do right now but I'll be available after work, ping me
another hint to make you wait: check for n = 1, 2, 3, 4
you should see a link with fibonacci numbers, and then have a rough sketch of proof with strong induction
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more hints: P(k): we can find F_k (kth fibo number) such permutations for 1, 2, ... k
strong induction, assuming P(u) = F_u for all integers u before k+1, so in particular P(k-1) = F_k-1 and P(k) = F_k, and want to show P(k+1) = F_k-1+F_k = F_k+1
for that, show that a_1 ... a_k+1 being valid implies either k+1 = a_k+1, which the leaves the F_k possibilities for this scenario
or k+1 = a_k and then k = a_k+1, which leaves the permutations of P(k-1) as choices, so F_k-1
and then sum these 2 cases
the only tricky part being proving the "either"
but it's of reasonable difficulty if you try by contradiction
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i need help with question part (iii)
and ive tried part (i) & (ii) but im not sure if its correct
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calculated the total amount donated by Dalila in terms of A
then set the result equal two times Farisha's donation
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From the information provided:
Year 1: $150
Year 2: $150
Year 3: $170
This means that from year 3 onwards, there's an increase of $20 each year.
(i) To find the amount of money she donated in year 10:
We can find out how much she donated each year based on the pattern.
The difference between year 3 and year 10 is 7 years.
So, she increased her donation 7 times.
Increase = 7 x $20 = $140
Therefore, donation in year 10 = Year 3 donation + Increase
Donation in year 10 = $170 + $140 = $310
(ii) To calculate the total amount of money she gave over the 20-year period:
Years 1 and 2 = 2 x $150 = $300
From years 3 to 20, it's an arithmetic series:
First term (a) = $170
Common difference (d) = $20
Number of terms (n) = 20 - 2 = 18 (since she donated the same amount in the first two years)
Sum of an arithmetic series is given by:
Total amount for 20 years = Years 1 and 2 amount + Years 3 to 20 amount
= $300 + $6120 = $6420
So, Farisha donated a total of $6420 over the 20-year period.
d = $170 - $150 = $20
For Year 10:
a_{10} = $150 + (10-1)($20)
a_{10} = $150 + $180 = $330
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I cant seem to find my mistake
(vectors)
First line u factored out the 3 incorrectly
How should it be factored out then?
if u have a(b +c) then that equals ab + ac
So you'd expect a 3 in both terms to factor it out like you did
But since there isn't
You probably don't need to factor anything to begin with
What are your knowns?
but can i apply the || a + b || rule then?
Pls tell me ur tired rn :p
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And its correct btw
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hey i took arethemtic suequcnes, and geometric sequences, what other sequences might i study? I have a summative B investigation, which is an exam where they give us a new rule or whatever it is based on what we studied, and we have to learn its patterns, and deduce a rule veryfiy, justify it ect, what are some things related to arethmetic and gemorteric, that may be in my exam?? any ideas??
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I don't understand this at all, As they want resultant, i used R=(a^2+b^2+2abcostheta)^1/2, cos theta for min and max value
But in the solution they seem to just add and subtract those ๐
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Does anyone know about the Venn diagram?
According to your chosen literal, shade each of the operations given in the exercises.

Is this right?
does the triangle stand for the symmetric difference?
(๐ต โ ๐ถ) ๐ represents the complement of the symmetric difference between B and C. This means that it includes all elements that are not in B or C.
Yes
Complement.
what u have shaded in this diagram is just $B \Delta C$
SilverSoldier
okay that just A
Yes
u need to find the common regions between this one
and this
Is it right?
yes 
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at this point
why not throw it into overleaf or something and get a pdf out of it
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Calculate the eigenvalues, eigenvectors, determinant, and inverse of ( M ).
\Suppose ( E ) is an elliptic curve defined by the equation ( y^2 = x^3 - x ). Determine the torsion points of( E(\mathbb{Q}) ), the rational points on ( E ).
\Explore the properties of the Riemann zeta function
[
\zeta(s) = \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{1}{n^s}.
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Analyze its convergence and mention any special values or relationships you know.
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find a formula for the nth partial sum of the series
because it's not a geometric series
try partial fractions
how?
$\sum_{k=2}^n \frac{1}{k(k+1)} = \sum_{k=2}^n \paren{\frac{1}{k} - \frac{1}{k+1}}$
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I'm confused with the last step
I got lim of fx as n when x = 1
And 0 when 0 <= x < 1
I'm confused about the integral
Ofc they're the same right????
A is going towards 1 on 1^- limit right
how can it be n, you are taking the limit as n->infinity
your answer cannot depend on n
$\lim_{n \to \infty}f_n(1) = \infty$
Bungo
presumably that's why they're fiddling with the limit as a->1-
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Well yes it would go to Infinity
But it would be whatever value of n is in the sequence
Is all I meant. If you look at the value at 1 youd would get n. As n goes to Infinity it equals Infiniti
right, so if you let f(x) = lim f_n(x), then
$$f(x) = \begin{cases}\infty & \text{if }x = 1 \ 0 & \text{otherwise} \end{cases}$$
Bungo
and presumably they're using riemann integrals, so f(x) is not properly riemann integrable (because it is not bounded)
so they're using an improper integral
with a lebesgue integral you don't need to do that
Yes, ahhh hell ol its going to Infinity as the integral goes to one
On the rhs
Yeah we're not doing any measure Theory in this course
yea that makes sense
but you're essentially correct that the infinity at x=1 doesn't have any effect
the value of the function at a single point (even if infinite) can't change the value of the integral
Well points have no length and therefore no measure :p
I think is why a point doesn't matter
yes that's it in a nutshell
that becomes more formally/"officially" true with measure theory
Esp in regard to measure Theory and the outter measure
And getting into the like idea that measurable sets are those open sets
basically in measure theory, we allow 0 times infinity and we define it to be 0
Yeah it's The extended real lines right
right
cool!
Okay gotta study Norwegian for the rest of the night
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so this is one of my linear algebra problems
im not really sure how to proceed
or if my tries make sense
heres what i have so far
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Need help learning a couple of topics
undefined = anything divided by 0
so just use those x values in the denominator and if u get 0 that value is undefined
im so sorry but the shadow from your phone is REALLY unfortunate in how it is shaped
For real
I KNOW
but anyway
I WAS LIKE WTF
the only thing that can cause an undefined here is division by 0
THAT SHIT LOOKS SO FUNNY LMFAOO
so find where that happens
only denominator
?
iโm dead
u can use in numerator but 0 in denominator is undefined

and u only want to find values where the function is undefined
ok so if it equals 0 we are good
yes only the denominator
0/(whatever) is fine
(whatever)/0 is not
you want the not-fine case
ok so the answer is 4
answer # 4
x=0 x=6
ima need help w another question hopfully the camera dosent show some weird shape
#3
does*
factor numerator and denominator
so it becomes -2/(x+5)?
Yeah
You can take out x from both parts of the fraction
how do i do that
For the top x^3-16x=x(x^2-16)
Then you can factor the quadratic parts further
how so?
Same way you did for the other problems
so like for the denominator (x+4) (x+8)
and the top part is x (x-4) (x+4)
Yeah
ohhh
that was helpful
Im gonna be asking a lot of questions so bare with me lmao
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Try multiplying one of the fractions (either one) by -1/-1
This will make the denominators equivalent then you can add
so I got a+b/a-b
b/(b-a)=-b/(a-b)
Seems like you multiplied the right side denominator by negative 1 but not the numerator
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bet
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multiply by (y+2)(y-4)
make that the common denominator?
Multiply both left and right sides by (y+2) and (y-4)
You will get a linear equation in two variables with respect to y
and then solve the equation.
so like y+2/(y-4)(y+2) + y-4/(y-4)(y+2) = y^2 -4y -y -4 /(y-4)(y+2)
a little bug
the constant of denominator on the right is equal to positive 4.
so it should be y^2-4y-y+4
you're welcome
Itโs just factoring
yes
it's a little bit complicated
ya thats the only one i really am having trouble with
@hollow wharf do you know how to do it?
Pick: numerator or denominator
numerator first
i figured it out its y^2 + 3y/y+5
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Not sure what I'm doing wrong but I can't solve this math problem
I used product rule and got -5sec3xsin5x + 3cos5xsec3xtan3x but I am not sure where to go from there
๐ง simply substituting $\pi/2$ gives a result
artemetra
whats the result?
by product rule, did you meant you tried to differentiate sec(3x)cos(5x)?
yes
well that doesn't do anything, nor help you find the limit either
I'm going to suppose you were trying to use L'Hopital's rule, which is not applicable (yet) in this case
yes I was
also, there's another way of doing this without using L'h.
so which method would you want to use?
what methods are there?
well one way you can do is to use sum of angles and triple angle identity to simplify the limit
or, if you somehow know the identity cos(nx), or more specifically cos(5x), you could use that as well
But the main idea is that you want to simplify the cos(x) present in sec(3x)
not sure if I've learned about sum of angles or triple angel identity yet in class(im taking calc 1)
the paper said to solve the problems with L'Hopitals rule so that's what I was trying
are you sure you have not heard of something like cos(x+y) = cos(x)cos(y) - sin(x)sin(y)?
alright, nvm then, if it specifically asks you to use l'h then just use it
anyway, can you tell some of the indeterminate form in which you can apply l'h?
Or if you can, tell me how you can use l'h in limits? Since it seems like you are not that familiar with l'h
well I know you can only use L'H with fractions, and prior to doing so you should plug in the limit and see if it evaluates to 0/0 or inf/inf
right, so basically if we have an indeterminate form of either 0/0 or inf/inf, we can apply l'h
That's correct
now, given that we can apply the theorem, how would you apply it?
Let's say we are trying to do the limit $\lim_{x\to c} \frac{f(x)}{g(x)}$ where this limit has an indeterminate form mentioned
waler
well you'd get f'(x)/g'(x) and plug in the limit, if it's still indeterminate you apply L'H again until the answer is no longer indeterminate
great, so basically the theorem tells us that $\lim_{x\to c} \frac{f(x)}{g(x)} = \lim_{x\to c}\frac{f'(x)}{g'(x)}$ given the condition above
waler
alright, you seem to be on track with the theorem. Now let's try to apply that on our problem
So firstly, you can already tell that we can't use the theorem in our problem yet. Can you somehow manipulate sec(3x)cos(5x) into a fraction?
I was trying to do that possibly by applying the product rule but got stuck, so if there is a way I haven't noticed yet
again, just forget about differentiating and stuff, since we do not have the necessary conditions for l'h here
like I said, we can't use the theorem in our problem yet
by using just algebra and trigonometry, try to rewrite sec(3x)cos(5x) as a fraction
if you get stuck again, ||try to rewrite sec(3x) in terms of cosine||
im sure I've learned about whatever you're referring to but I've forgot about it
alright then, do you know that sec(u)=1/cos(u)?
I believe I remember noting that down a few weeks ago but it wasn't on my formulas page so I forgot about it
sure, the trigonometric secant function is defined as sec(x)=1/cos(x)
this is just a definition basically
I see, what is cosecant defined as?
csc(x)=secant(pi/2-x), "co-" stands for complementary, as in complementary angle
hence csc(x)=1/sin(x)
anyway, that's off-topic, so with that in mind, we know that sec(3x)cos(5x) = cos(5x)/cos(3x)
now can you verify that the limit of cos(5x)/cos(3x) as x tends to (pi/2)^- is an indeterminate form?
more specfically, tell me what indeterminate form it is of
0/0
great, and technically we have 3 more conditions to check for, but just trust me in it that we can apply l'h here
so tell me what limit do you get after applying l'h?
after appling l'h I get -sin(5x)/-sin(3x)
eh not quite, your derivatives are not correct
parenthesis, but yes
anyway, so we have that the limit in our problem is equal to the limit of 5/3 * sin(5x)/sin(3x) as x tends to (pi/2)^-
now, what is the result of this limit?
-5/3 because sin(5x)/sin(3x) = -1
makes much more sense now that i know sec(x) = 1/cos(x), thanks for your help
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so are you familiar with the cartesian plane
and what graphs represent mathematically
if you are not sure where to start, for question 1
i recommend making y the subject then graphing it
if you are not sure what to do from there you might want to look at the vertex form of a parabola
Im not sure but I think this is the graph for no. 1
that's all I can do im really tired at the moment
@strange scarab for 2, this is a parabola in y, rather than x, so the parabola will open on its side instead of top or bottom. If you set x to 0 you can see that y = 0 or 6, and setting y to 3 we can find x = -3, which gives you three points that you can draw a parabola through.
You solve 3 with a similar approach
For 4, you need to use the equation for the focus, do you know it?
For 5, you need the equation for the directrix, same question
Uhmm 4. F(h,k) -> F(-3,-1)
is it right?
Is the directrix y=k-p?
Yes.



