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As long as you're not breaking the wires ,that's a legal thing I did
In the green, R1 and R234 are in parallel
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Hi, could someone help me factor this step by step? (MHF4U — Advanced Functions)
I've tried using the rational root theorem but I think I'm doing something wrong when factoring the quadratic function
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im confused if i did this correctly
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im stuck, could someone help me finish this? (gaussian elimination)
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A bowl contains four salted caramel Hershey bars, five cookie and cream Hershey bars, and six milk chocolate Hershey bars. If candy bars are selected one by one in random order, what is the probability that at least two candy bars must be selected to obtain one that is milk chocolate?
So is it asking for the first two draws are not milk chococlate right
so my first is 4/15 and since 11 candy left so 5/11
and I multiply the two
is that right?
,calc (4/15)*(5/11)
Result:
0.12121212121212
is it right?
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hello, im stuck on this question
i tried doing f(x+h) - f(x)/h but in the end I couldnt progress because I couldnt factor the h out to cancel the numerator h
nevermind I found it 👍
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Would iii be all the positive integers excluding 3 and including 0?
you mean ii?
then yes
And iii is the all the natural numbers excluding 2 and 3?
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and why is that?
so A^c is all the natural numbers without 2, B is the set that contains 2 and 3
yeah
you remove all the natural numbers without 2 from the set that contains 2 and 3, you just have a set that contains 2?
and you are trying to find the intersection of the set that contains 2 and all the natural numbers without 2
the two sets have nothing in common
so you have an empty set
exactly
oh okay thank you 🙂
no problem
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We had that for "Determine the probability that when throwing two dice repeatedly, a 5 occurs before a 7.", it's P = 1/9 + (1 - 1/9 - 1/6) P
Why is that?
Why is the P at the end
There are 4 partitions of 5, 6 of 7.
So P(5) = 1/9 and P(7) = 1/6, yes.
But why is P = P(5) + (1 - P(5) - P(7)) * P?
Yes
Okay. Try to think of it in this way.
We are gonna try to divide our possibilities for occurrence of 5 before 7 in two broad categories. Which are -
It happens on the first roll,
OR
It happens on some later roll(not the first one).
I'm gonna call "occurrence of 5 before 7" the event X.
Now, P(X) = P(It happens on the first roll) + P(It happens on some later roll)
P(It happens on the first roll) = P(5) = 1/9
P(It happens on some later roll) = P(It doesn't happen on the first roll) * P( It happens on the any other roll except the first)
Now, think about what this "P( It happens on the any other roll except the first)" represent. Basically, we have rolled the dice once and guaranteed that it didn't roll 5 or 7.
Now, we have to make the second roll.
Does a previous role of a dice affect the next role in any way?
After this, ping me so i can continue.
No, it doesn't
All probabilities remain the same
Yes. So, for a second forget the first roll, since it doesn't affect our next roll at all.
What are we trying to find?
(Assuming roll means throwing both dice)
We are still finding the exact same thing - Probability that a 5 rolls before a 7.
That we get 5 before 7
Yes
yes
oh
We are allowed to multiply because they are independant, right?
Yes.
So to denote "Neither P nor 5 and then 5 before 7", we can multiply accordingly
Thanks!
The answer in the MSE post just right away said it's 1/9/(1/9 + 1/6) or 4/(4 + 6) (see https://math.stackexchange.com/a/1828299), so I don't think they used a recursive way like this one though. Do you know how they got that right away?
They used that only. They just generalised the formula.
Let's try to do that.
Oh, wait
Yeah, get P to the LHS, then factor out P, there will be a +1 and -1, those cancel out, we can divide and we'll have
P(5)/(P(5) + P(7))
P = P(5) + ( 1- p(5) - P(7))*P
P(1 - (1- p(5) - P(7))) = P(5)
P = P(5)/(p(5) + p(7))
Yeah, thanks!
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what is the integral of cosec2x
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Would this be correct?
to me it looks like you need to read the last sentence again
the one before "do not simplify ..."
think about that
you made the same mistake as in your last channel 
Joe
How
last time, it said to do some operations, then "divide <some number> by what you have" and you divided what you have by <some number>. you did the same thing again here, before you fixed it
it says "divide j by what you have" and so you should divide j by 3 * 3 + k
So I’m right now?
so i'm right now?
yeah
K
am i right though
just gotta read more thoroughly
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Don't understand the equation I need to do
I understand I need to find KLM but don't know how to
I so far did 66 - 54 = 12 but this was incorrect
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assume f(x1) = f(x2) => prove that necessarily x1 = x2
this makes it injective
lemme think about it
alright
my original hint works
try to work from f(x1) = f(x2) with algebra
The function is $\frac{x}{1+|x|}$?
ΣΑCu
And what is it mapping between
Okay that's important to include bc obv it's not a bijection from R to R
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I am a bit confused
I factored the denominator and got x^2(x - 5)
So i thought i would need two fractions in the decomposed form
one for x^2 and the other for x-5
oh wait i see now
We have an x^2 and because of that we need another fraction for x^1
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Is
X^2-x even function ?
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you sure that's correct?
you cannot use this to prove f is injective
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$\lim_{x\to 0} \frac{\tan^3(2x)}{x^3}$
Jash
Apply l’hopital rule
i would have to do it 3 times
You can cube root it and then use l’hoptal
with multiple product rules
And then cube it again
oooh so $\left(\lim_{x\to 0} \frac{\tan{2x}}{x}\right)^3$
Jash
Yes
does tan(ax)/(bx) have the same property as sin(ax)/(bx)=a/b?
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when i do the arc tan of 30/360 i get 5 not 4.76
also i thought j was cos and i was sin shouldnt it be arc tan 360/30 ?
nvm i fixed my calculator
but the other point stands in regards to i and j
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I have a doubt, if there are 3 green balls and 2 red balls. And we are picking 2 of them with replacement.
then
Probability(green ball and red ball picked) = 2 * (3/5) * (2/5) = 12/25
Probability( 2 green ball ) = (3/5) * (3/5) = 9/25
In the second case we didn't have to multiply by 2. Can anyone explain why?
im not sure why youd multiply by 2
essentially in a probability equation, picking a green ball and a red ball:
3/5 [because there are 3 green balls] * 2/5 [because there are 2 red balls]
doesn't the order matter? we are picking green first and red second here.
same thing with 2 green balls
3/5 [because there are 3 green balls] *
3/5 [because there are 3 green balls]
it only matters if its with replacement
because then the previous event determines the next event
example:
pick a green ball and a red ball with replacement
3/5 [because there are 3 green balls in a set of 5 balls]** * 2/4 **[because there are 2 red balls in a set of 4 balls. you've taken a ball out]
Lets take a smaller sample space 2G, 1R
then Sample space = {GG,GG,GR,GG,GG,GR,RG,RG,RR}
here if we pick 2 of them:
P(one red and one green) = 2*(2/3)(1/3)
P(both green) = (2/3)(2/3)
2 of them with or without replacement?
with
cool
sorry with
im not sure why youre multiplying by 2 here
It's with replacement. I have edited the question.
ohhhhhhh my apologies
but the correct answers would be:
1/3 x 2/3
and:
2/3 x 2/3 (this is right)
as far as i know, multiplying by 2 will result in an incorrect answer
but if we check the sample space, {GG,GG,GR,GG,GG,GR,RG,RG,RR}
there are 4 occurrence out of 9 (gr,gr,rg,rg)
but probability gives only 2 of them
hmm
I have a doubt, if there are 3 green balls and 2 red balls. And we are picking 2 of them with replacement.
then
Probability(green ball and red ball picked) = 2 * (3/5) * (2/5) = 12/25
Probability( 2 green ball ) = (3/5) * (3/5) = 9/25
In the second case we didn't have to multiply by 2. Can anyone explain why?
Lets take a smaller sample space 2G, 1R
then Sample space = {GG,GG,GR,GG,GG,GR,RG,RG,RR}
here if we pick 2 of them:
P(one red and one green) = 2(2/3)(1/3)
P(both green) = (2/3)*(2/3)
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in a mutually exclusive event, the outcomes cannot occur simultaneously
therefore RG and RG, GR and GR are possible
which means its 2/9*2/9
so yea your correct
sorry i overlooked that
in the first question, we multiply by 2 to account for the possible permutations of choosing reds and greens (RG or GR), but in the second, the greens are indistinguishable, so we don't need to permute them
more specifically,
P(green ball and red ball) = P(green ball, followed by red ball) + P(red ball, followed by green ball)
= (3/5) * (2/5) + (2/5) * (3/5)
= 2 * (3/5) * (2/5)
but P(green ball) = P(green ball, followed by green ball)
= (3/5) * (3/5)
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YI
TOO SLOW
bruh
DAMMIT
Can this situation be solved exclusively with vectors?
oh... this is physics
technically yes
how
I sadly cannot answer that
because that type of physics is hard
because its a mathematical application
and I never done it with vectors
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I'm trying to fill out the vectors but i'm not sure what the components of V would be
lets just say
its
uuuuh
no
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need help solving this i can show an attempt if needed
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id start with sketching the graph
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my question is #9
i’m just making sure my work is correct, idk how to “de assemble” composite functions
or would f(x) and g(x) be swapped?
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If f(g(x)) = x, and g(f(x)) = x, then the two functions are the inverse of one another
I think that's the rule you're looking for?
i’m not sure
i think im supposed to decompose the decomposition function
is that how u do it?
Question 10 right?
no it’s 9
Oh one sec my bad
Could you type what H(x) is? I can't see it very well
H(x) = (x^2+1)^50
I think the best way to decompose this kind of stuff is to work from inner to outer
the inner function is G right?
and the outter is f
i think i mixed up my answers
yeah i think that’s what i got when i redid it
let me check
yeah that’s what i got
that’s not too bad then
i guess i can check my answer by just plugging it in right?
that was actually relatively simple which probably made me confused, but ty for the help brother
Ofc, no problem
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The figure shows the graph of a function and its tangent at the point P.
What value does the derivative of the function have at the point P?
Do I take two points of the tangent and use delta x and y?
yea
Is that it? The answer is -1/4?
how
How do I get -1/4 or what do you mean?
lol
-1/2
So that's my final answer?
yes
alr thank you
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Find K so that the terms K-3, K+1, and 4k-2 form a geometric sequence? What formula should I use?
are those terms consecutive?
if yes then use the def of a geometric sequence where r will be the same for each of them
yes they are consecutive
t2/t1=t3/t2
thank you
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if two lines have the same y coordinate but different slopes that go parallel, whats the point of intercection?
damn you got the whole gang confused

Well that doesn't look much like two parallel lines
I mean you literally have (0, 3) marked
So is that the poi
Do you know what an intersection of two lines is
When it intersects the lines
Yuh
When it crossed
Crosse
Crosses
Goes over
Laps over
Yes ...
SO IS IT 0,3 THE POI
And where does one line intersect, or cross, the other
also the lines arent parallel what r u on
Though does aren't lines anyway*
oh well same thing
Really these aren't lines but rays
anyways
Ye
What’s the point of intersection
wait
ohh I get it now
so the poi is 0,3
oo
Yes ...
TYSM
I guess ...
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i cannot quite understand what is being done here
we have a periodic function, sin, and we are interested in only when it is zero
could someone explain what 'k' really is?
k is any arbitrary integer
ok, but how is it related here? because sin can only be zero at 0 and pi, right?
if the argument of sin() is any integer multiple of pi then sin is 0
sin is 0 at ...,-2pi,-pi,0,pi,2pi,3pi,....
okay, i see. I didn't disclose that part of the question but the range used here is -pi to pi
the interval sorry
then you take any solutions for t from 2t+pi/4=kpi s.t. t is in that interval
and k is just any integer
to me then it seems like the first equation 2t + pi/4 = k*pi is more useful for solving the problem. What is the purpose of isolating t
because t is what you want to find
here
yeah, i get that, but we want to find when 2t+pi/4 is a multiple of pi
i don't question you're right but
i can only imagine how to begin to solve that with the first equation not the last
you say k is any integer, should we ignore it?
or should we treat both t and k as input parameters and try make them match basically?
theres two options really
you can find the range of values that 2t+pi/4 can be,
in this case this range is -7pi/4<=2t+pi/4<=9pi/4
in which case k can only be -1,0,1 or 2
or you can rearrange to get t=kpi/2 - pi/8
and you know -pi<=kpi/2 -pi/8 <=pi
then find k values that satisfy that
which will give k=-1,0,1 or 2
what you're saying is that RHS is within interval of -pi to pi
so do we ever even apply, knowing when sin is zero here?
the whole thing is based on that
thats where this equation comes from
everything else comes after
sin(LHS)=0 if the LHS is an integer multiple of pi
so how do we start figuring out the t values, i still can't see it
once you figure these possible values of k
you can directly plug them into this
and why not for example k = 3?
k=3 is outside the range
3pi=12pi/4
upper limit of 2t+pi/4 is 9pi/4
if you plugged k=3 into this, that would be apparent that this interval doesnt hold
i am now struggling to see how we found this interval
"in this case this range is -pi/4 <= 2t+pi/4 <= 9pi/4"
-pi<=t<=pi, yeah?
yes
so we plug lower and upper bound of interval into what's inside the sin function
into t of that, that is
you dont plug the upper and lower bounds in
however note that 2t+pi/4=kpi
so then -7pi/4<=kpi<=9pi/4
which can be made into -7/4<=k<=9/4
since k is an integer just find those that lie in there
then you can just plug the k values into this to find the t values
i am still not seeing this jump from 2t+pi/4 to -7pi/4
wdym?
i understand 2t+pi/4 = kpi
and thus if we modify LHS we can modify RHS accordingly
and thus find k
-7pi/4 is from this working
then to this
2(-2pi)+pi/4 ?
just -2pi+pi/4
here i multiply by 2, then the next line is +pi/4
then i just simplify
oh wait
obv OOO
yeah okay i agree
so t is -pi, 0 or pi, as defined by our interval. 2t is then -2pi, 0 or 2pi. this allows us to create the range of what 2t + pi/4 can be. once we know that range, we can find out what k can be, accordingly. Then on the second equation, we can simply plug those k values in. This is how i understood it so far
BUT
no
t is not -pi, 0, or pi
t lies in the interval -pi<=t<=pi
these results all fall in there
okay, so it lies in the interval. It CAN be -pi, 0 and pi
and k is integer values
yes
so it cannot be anything other than the integers of its range
what do you mean by that?
which here is -1, 0, 1 and 2
if you mean this by range, then yeah
as in, for t, if we defined it as an integer, it would've been -3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, 3 as possible values
under that condition, yes
it's okay i'm just verbalizing my thinking it's not relevant
so this is the purpose of k basically
thus we can, for isolated t equation, simply plug in possible k values
and that will give us possible t
so i see k is truly nothing but an integer but it is still crucial to figure out the answer
yes k is just an integer, and its range is restricted by the range of t
okay, so i can understand now for sure how to find possible k values for minimum and maximum value of our interval (-pi and pi)
but what about everything in between?
$t + \frac{pi}{2} = pi * k$
marty
this is another question i am currently solving
i put t to be -pi and pi
and get k values -1/2 and 3/2
you need to stop focussing on the end bounds of -pi and pi
they arent helpful except for saying what results to ignore
okay, but then i'm back to zero, how can i figure out k values
theres no reason to randomly plug them in
from this line of reasoning down
you end up here
and can then pull out your valid k values
-1,0,1,2
okay so we never leave the interval basically
you cant, the interval is how t is defined
everything else works from that basis
$-pi+\frac{pi}{2}<=t+\frac{pi}{2}<=pi+\frac{pi}{2}$
marty
before simplification
is that for this
yep
AℤØ
aha
then you could generally divide by pi
so -1/2 <= k <= 3/2
yeah
yup
0, 1, 2, 3, 4
3/2=1.5
i was multiplying with pi still
0, 1
okay so we work with intervals until we get the k interval and from there it's fairly easy to get t values
indeed
so this in general was the method of finding possible t values. Sometimes this is sufficient for only x, such as finding y intersections, but when we want to find origin intersections, y(t) also needs to be zero
we already have possible t values for x, what is the easiest way to find a match for y ?
these t values are the ones such that y=0
at least from this question anyway
can we simply try to plug our t values into the sin function, or should we also isolate for t for y(t)
lemme show the whole one sec
i didn't post this because i wanted to isolate the problems
oh wait
wrong problem
let's not actually solve it
but just in general
this one does require x(t)=y(t)=0
so youd find the solutions to them individually, then see which t values satisfy both
ah okay
so we couldn't just simply plug t values found for x into y(t)
and interpret that somehow
i suppose you could actually
see which x solutions make y(t)=0
that would work
or vice versa
okay so whatever makes (pi/16 - t/8) = 0 in this example
one of the t values from x should match
its not pi/16 -t/8=0, pi/16-t/8=kpi for some integer k
one or more
or perhaps none
its possible it never passes through the origin
yeah, i understand
okay, so this is important distinction
so here we are interested in whenever the sine function is zero, which can be any multiple of pi
yeah, although what you said would be a solution, it wouldnt be all possible solutions
as opposed to the higher level of wanting y(t) to be zero, which only happens with 0, obviously
yeah exactly
extremely helpful
i was very very stuck with this
thank you
no worries
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I want to calculate the amount of an action if it starts at 50 and increases by 10% every day and that the sum of it is 12,000 times after five days
I don't know how though
like I haven't leaned exponentials so I don't know how to write an equasion
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in your context probably but generally not at all
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because you have to first prove that there exists an inverse f-1
and such an inverse exists only if f is injective, which is part of what you're trying to prove
it's x/(1+|x|)?
just examine what happens if f(x1) = f(x2)
first of all we notice that f(x) = 0 only for x=0.
then, for all other x's you can see (1 + |x1|)/x1 = (1+ |x2|)/x2
so now you can take three cases: either x1 and x2 are positive. in this case you have 1/x1 + 1 = 1/x2 +1 . so 1/x1 = 1/x2 and x1 = x2.
similarly for when x1 and x2 are both negative
and lastly, from the original equation you can see that x1 and x2 cannot possibly have a different sign
so that covers all cases. if f(x1) = f(x2), x1=x2
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hi does anyone know how to solve this? it is polynomial function. thank you !!
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Im not sure where to start with these. In the case of a, I know that if it was just δ(t) then the definite integral would be 1 but I don't know if that helps me here
$$\sin(t) \times \delta(t) = ?$$
Luna
what
$$\sin(t) \times \delta(t) = \sin(0) \times \delta(t) = 0$$
Luna
So in (a), you are integrating 0
How do you know it becomes sin(0)?
The product of any function with the Dirac delta function is
[
f(t) \cdot \delta(t) = f(0) \cdot \delta(t)
]
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Oh alright. Is it something similar with b where I am supposed to use a specific property before integrating?
Or do I just change it to the integral from 0 to t of sin(T) since its a step function
Well here, you have two cases
When t<0 and when t>=0
if t<0, the integral is just equal to 0, because u(t)=0 for negative values of t
What would the case be if t>=0?
if t>=0, yes, the integral simplifies to from 0 to t of sin(T)
Because u(t)=1
For positive values of t
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You should ask your teacher
Because that's not it
Yes and you should ask your teacher on how that augmented got there
Because that's not it
We aren't your teacher to know what their thought process was
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Hey guys, could someone help me out with this?
Suppose the foci of an ellipse are (-2x, 0 ) and (2,0) and the sum of the distances from point P(x,y) of the ellipse to the two foci, denoted by F1P + F2P = 8. Use the definition of an ellipse to find the equation of the ellipse.
Here is my working:
$$\sqrt{\left(x--2\right)\ +\ \left(y-0\right)^2}+\sqrt{\left(x-2\right)^2-\left(y-0\right)^2}=8$$
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$$\sqrt{\left(x--2\right)\ +\ \left(y-0\right)^2}=8-\sqrt{\left(x-2\right)^2-\left(y-0\right)^2}$$
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$$\left(\sqrt{\left(x--2\right)\ +\ \left(y-0\right)^2}\right)^2=\left(8-\sqrt{\left(x-2\right)^2-\left(y-0\right)^2}\right)^2$$
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$$\left(x+2\right)^2+y^2=64-16\sqrt{\left(x-2\right)^2+y^2}+\left(x-2\right)^2+y^2$$
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Inverting functions. I think I’m on the right path and I sort of get the idea but for some reason it’s not clicking. Can someone pls help me with this?
My apologies for the late response
I’m not quite sure I’m thinking I need to divide to get rid of the two
But not sure
Right. So maybe I should multiply it by 3/2?
Actually, let's do it in several steps: first eliminate the 3
How do I do that again with a problem like this?
Just, when you want to get rid of 3, what would be the operation to do
Here $\dfrac3{y+2}=3\times\dfrac1{y+2}$.
Statufi
I mean you can multiply by the denominator by it won't eliminate the 3
To get rid of a multiplication (here $\times 3$), you have to divide (here /3$=\dfrac13$).
Statufi
Hmm I need to divide it by 1/3? Isn’t that 9?
Also this problem is not for graphing
No
Statufi
And that's not giving what you wrote
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Oh. I see. But how do I progress from there?
Multiply by something else to clear denominators
^
Should I multiply by y+2?
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Why isn't the asnwer to b)
Ax + B / x^2 + x+ 4
yes
you can factorise x2+x+4
using quadratic formula?
Can someone please help??
Find the average (vertical) height of the shaded area in Figure 1 below.Ca
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oh sorry
Before I do that though, does this fraction not fail on the first assumption ?
true
Why isn't doing long division enough then?
which means polynomial division first
indeed
because you'll still be left with a linear/(x2+x+4)?
which needs further decomposition
I got:
1 + (-x-4) / (x^2+x+4)
Ah
sigh
I suppose I need to read more about this method
(my lectures are useless lol)
practice is good
questions on youtube, etc. as well
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How can I find the domain of an inverse trigonometric function without graphing or inputting known values? I have arccos(2x/(1+x)) and it has been a weird time to get the domain algebrically.
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trying to do linear congruences, would love a step by step workthrough with someone
watched countless videos and examples
I just don't get it
for example
6x ≡ 15 (mod 21)
gcd(6,21) = 3
3 | 15
6x + 21y = 15
now i can divide through the entire congruence by the gcd
2x = 5 (mod 7)
now what though
i don't wanna just use inspection or tricks
like
6+7k
I wanna find it step by step and understand how
once u simplify it to that point right
once i've reached 2x = 5 (mod 7) whats my next step?
theres no 'method' its only u get a specific solution then add 7k
what
how is that any different from 6x = 15 (mod 21) and just finding one value
idk what a diophantine is :/
aah
the equation you wrote
6x +15y=21
rhis is a diophantine
diophantine eq is a eq whose roots are integers
theres a general solution to this
or that you need any one solution
oki
to form a general solution
so wait whats the point of dividing by gcd
the only reason is to make it as easy as possible?
oki so
we have 2x + 5y = 7
or
2x ≡ 7 (mod 5)
I do understand how to get there
and then i just inspect / think of one solution?
yes
how / why can i form a general solution from this?
wait 5 mod 7 or 7 mod 5?
this is sus
7 mod 5 no?
6x ≡ 15 (mod 21)
2x=5 mod 7
write this in a diophantine form
2x + 7y = 5
meh any works
now for a diohpantine
once u get a solution
6,-1 here
the one you told
sure ye
let 6 be a and -1 be b
to a you add the coefficient of y and to b you subtract coefficient of x
to get a general solutions
so your answer becomes
x = 6+7k y=-1-7k
can you explain why?
wouldn't that also mean there are infinite solutions then?
because
yes there are
hence the general solution
say
x= 2 mod 7
if instead of 2
i have any number
of the form
but it says the total number of distinc solutions are = gcd(a,m)?
7k+2
they said its related
also notice how they are adding
repeatedly
means its infinite
hm
im not really following
it definitely says theres only gcd(a,m) distinct solutions
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
its saying solution to x mod m to the congruence ax = c mod m
is
dependent on d
illl let someone else explain my own theory part isnt that good to explain 💀
i can just do question
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Can somebody teach me ?
Calculate the probability of there being 0, 1, 2, 3 smartphones present in the selected group plot it
I did this so far
So if you keep going with that tree, what do you think the probability of all 3 having a smartphone is
Although, I believe the smartphones aren't replaced so actually the probability differs each time
You are correct with the first branch
Just look at your 2nd one
20 people doesnt hv a phone ?
No you're second branch, if 80 people have a phone the first time, then only 79 people will the 2nd time
And actually looking at you're probability you're chosing out of the 100 so the first probability would be 80/100
ohh i see
Not 1/80
doesnt it mean in 100 people inside has 80 ppl hv phone 20 people does not hv phone ?
the second branch is 80/99 people who with phone ?
no
if you take someone with a phone out, then you have 79 with a phone left
So 79/99
when X = 3 the probability is 80/100* x 79/99 x 78/98 as well ?
yes
thats incorrect the ans given is 64/125
for what? Probability of 3 phones?
yea when P(X=3)
That works assuming the phones get replaced (they put the phone back after they take it)
Is there more context to the question cause that doesn't seem intuitive
They've done (80/100)^3
why it doesnt decrease smtg ?
Either the answer is wrong or there's more info
alright
If this is a hw you can ask your teacher abt that
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What to do next??
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Actually uniting the denominators can be more easier than that
@cedar mulch
I don't mean that
Can u elaborate it then
You can simplfie it by applying the division
Either before uniting or after uniting the denominators
Dividing what
Like
$$\frac{x}{x+1} = 1-\frac{1}{x+1}$$
Sherif Player
Hm?
Also we don't want to unite the denominator of the constant numbers just take them to the other side
Do you know how to divide functions
Like long division or synthetic division?
@cedar mulch
?
@cedar mulch ?
Mb mb
Yeah
I'm bit confused on how to apply it there though
Oh okayyy... i think i get it
So we get
$$6 \geq 1-\frac{1}{x+1} - 4 + \frac{8}{x+2}$$
Sherif Player
$$9\geq\frac{8}{x+2} - \frac1{x+1}$$
What
Sherif Player
Just divided x by x+1
And 4x by x+2
To get it simpler
Now as we deal with fractions it will be easier if we took 9 to the RHS
Then uniting the denominator
Why
$$0\geq\frac{8(x+1) - x+2 - 9(x²+3x+2)}{x^2+3x+2}$$
$$0\geq\frac{8x+8 - x - 2 - 9x^2 - 27x - 18}{x^2 + 3x + 2}$$
$$0\geq \frac{-9x^2 - 20x - 12}{x^2+3x+2}$$
Sherif Player
Sorry for confusing you here
Your way is correct
Now to solve it we need to see which x values would make the right side negative
To do that we need to draw a number line
And see when the numerator will output + and when it output -
And do the same for denominator and take the part that the sign they output is different than each other
Yeah but how do i get the critical points
If the num and deno is a quadratic
I mean, i get that i need to factor the deno, but how about the num? It's not factorable by rational eq
Oh yes but we can use quadratic formula
I meant formula
How??
First we check the determine
If you check it you will see that it is negative
Which states that it doesn't have real solutions
Which means that it is either always positive or either always negative
What do you think about here
@cedar mulch
Determine where
Yes
So you know what is under the sqrt in the quadratic formula
