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digital chasm
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yes

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thanks the answer is correct but I'm not realy sure why

light sonnet
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PEMDAS is the american way of saying BODMAS

digital chasm
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i knew it haha

light sonnet
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70 * 30/7 * 3

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As mentioned that will do 70 * 30 then 2100/7 then 300 * 3

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Because of order of operations

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If you have 70 * 30/(7 * 3) then you need to do brackets first

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So 70 * 30 / 21

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Then multiplication/division from left to right

digital chasm
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I was thinking 70 x 30 / 21

light sonnet
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Yes that's what you were thinking but written out, you need to use parentheses

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70 * 30/7 * 3
As mentioned that will do 70 * 30 then 2100/7 then 300 * 3

digital chasm
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It's clear that your intentions were that 7 * 3 were in the denominator but if you written it out in a text format, you need to let people know that 7 * 3 is in the denominator by adding parentheses

digital chasm
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Is it because I didn't do PEDMAS and parenthasses

light sonnet
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Like I mentioned PEMDAS and BODMAS are the same, just different terms
PEMDAS - Parentheses, Exponents, Multiplication, Division, Addition, Subtraction
BODMAS - Brackets, Order, Division, Multiplication, Addition, Subtraction

digital chasm
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yeah I know that (i hope that didn't sound rude)

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digital chasm
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what does the order mean in bodmas again?

light sonnet
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You're going to do what your first instinct is but for other people, it might be different because it's not clear on what the denominator is suppose to be

light sonnet
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If I gave you this 3 * 4/ 9 + 3
You would use order of operations and do 3 * 4 = 12/9 + 3 then 12/9 = 1.333 + 3 then add so 4.333
But what if I said it was suppose to mean 3 * 4/(9 + 3)? That's an entirely different answer, and by order of operations, you result in 3 * 4/ 12 = 12/12 = 1

digital chasm
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Thank you! That makes alot more sense]

digital chasm
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The ^2 part

digital chasm
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Does this make sense?

digital chasm
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But if you wanted to show full work, you should do (70 * 30)/(7 * 3)

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Just think of the numerator and denominator having invisible parentheses

digital chasm
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I multiply 7 and 3 and then do the question? like this: 70x30/21?

digital chasm
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wait because there are 2 numbers multiplying together at the denominatior ( 7 and 3), you multiplied them to become 21 and could i do the samne to the numerator

light sonnet
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if you wanted to show full work, you should do (70 * 30)/(7 * 3)

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You want to start there if you wanted to show all the work

digital chasm
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It's just grouping the terms

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Oh

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upbeat ivy
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does anyone see any pattern at all??!!

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im losing my mind i've been trying things for like an hour. but it's supposedly a simply problem so i'm probably overlooking the obvious

soft axle
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where is the question

upbeat ivy
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find the operating that is the @ symbol

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operation*

soft axle
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what's the authentication procedure

upbeat ivy
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operation @ is conducted on x and y and you get z

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7 @ 5 = 3. @ is arithmetic operations. what r the arithmetic operations.

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i swear there is no pattern i'm losing my mind

hidden harbor
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post the full instructions

upbeat ivy
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i mean it's kinda long but i will hold on

hidden harbor
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how do you expect us to understand anything without the instructions if you cannot with them?

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that is insane

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thank you i guess i'll work with that

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for 2 iii, i’m a bit confused if my answer is right

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gritty rose
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,w plot 2x^2-x-3-0.125

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But I think your answer is wrong anyway. k=0.126 will yield 2 roots

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Try using the discriminant instead

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hi

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glad whale
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where did the 0.8s come from?

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like i know if i subtract the 8 i will have 8

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but if i 0.2s - s i cant see how that equal 8

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oh jeez

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im a idiot

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.close nvm

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shadow quest
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I’m just a little confused about this

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. The image isn’t sending

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School wifi blockers go crazy

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im trying to solve by completing the square? would i use quadratic formula?

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11b

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tender skiff
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Tha answer is 720

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Idk how to get that i got -24

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twilit leaf
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Hi, the height of your second trapezoid should be 24

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@tender skiff

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Your first trapezoid*

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Becuase it was accelerating at 3m/s/s for 8 seconds

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So it should achieve a velocity of 3*8m/s by the end

tender skiff
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Oh

tender skiff
twilit leaf
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The velocity was increasing at a rate of 3 for 8 seconds

tender skiff
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I still got -24

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Wait

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I keep getting - numvers

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What

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I got -214.5

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WHAT

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teal epoch
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how can i solve $$\cos\left(2\piΔfT\right)=\frac{Δf+2f}{2f}$$ for the smallest nonzero value of delta f?

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Bradley

teal epoch
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or is that even possible?

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sacred crystal
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for a the awnser would be 2 ?

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sacred crystal
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but then b has 2 options

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its 2 or 4

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would it be 4 since theres no hole

thorn ridge
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$\lim_{x \to 0} f(x) \neq 2$

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thorn ridge
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What does it look like the function's going to? Forget the hole.

sacred crystal
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towards 2

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oops

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-2

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not 2

thorn ridge
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Yeah

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There you go

sacred crystal
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thats what i meant to put

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but for b

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there are 2 options

thorn ridge
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Hm. From the left side it's going to 2 and from the right side it's going to 4. What does it mean for the full limit if the one sided limits don't agree?

sacred crystal
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diverge

thorn ridge
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So the full limit doesn't exist. But you can answer c and d, because they're one sided.

sacred crystal
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since there is a jump the limits dont exist

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specifially at 2

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?

thorn ridge
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Jump discontinuity, limit doesn't exist as x goes to 2, yeah.

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But the one sided limits do exist.

sacred crystal
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correct

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coming in from positive and negative you mean

thorn ridge
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Yep.

sacred crystal
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hurd

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thanks dude

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hoary surge
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how to do 13.e

torn jolt
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whats 20/8923?

hoary surge
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2.24x10^-3

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how that related to the question tho

torn jolt
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Im jk im sorry

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Im just messing around.

hoary surge
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bruh

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alr

torn jolt
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Sorry

hoary surge
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np

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yk how to solve this?

torn jolt
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But what is 9+10?

hoary surge
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21

torn jolt
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LOL

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Alright

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Idk the answer to that tho

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Im lower grade.

hoary surge
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what grade

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how do i do 13.e

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<@&286206848099549185>

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gusty rampart
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Hello I'm kinda stumped as how I should proceed with this non exact differential equation

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left image is two of my attempts and right is where i'm at rn

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bottom image was an incorrect submission

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thorn comet
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this is more of a physics problem but has trigonometry factors so I was wondering if someone could help me figure out how to solve it

thorn comet
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ik i have to figure out the horizontal and vertical components

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but im not sure what to do after

sharp flame
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Can you find at what time it hits the wall?

zenith falcon
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thats given

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1.3s

thorn comet
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1.3s?

sharp flame
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ah right

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Then it's just a matter of using the equations of motions

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Yes you will have to split it into components

thorn comet
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is the 10ms the horizontal speed?

zenith falcon
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no

sharp flame
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I'd assume so

zenith falcon
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it could be 10cos35

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wait no

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im stupid

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im sorry 😭

sharp flame
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happens with the best of us

thorn comet
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so 10ms is the horizontal speed?

zenith falcon
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yeah

sharp flame
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anyways uh I'll let you walk em through it

zenith falcon
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well you just told them everything

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i was just gonna say that you need to figure out when the projectile hits its peak height

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you can calculate the verticle speed by comparing x/10 with tan35

thorn comet
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10tan35

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for the vertical velocity

zenith falcon
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so if tan35 is like, idk 0.5, then 0.5 = x/10

thorn comet
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?

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i thought the vertical speed was 10tan 35

zenith falcon
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well yes

thorn comet
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because tan35 = x/10

zenith falcon
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yeah

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thats what i said

thorn comet
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ohh

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so if the vertical speed is 7ms

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wait no

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am i supposed to find the total distacne of the object too?

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im rly confused

zenith falcon
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i would assume so

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as gravity would affect its velocity as well

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actually

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no

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holy fuck what am I doing

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you need to find out the initial velocity of the projectile

thorn comet
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ohh ok

zenith falcon
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which would be 10cos35

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base/hypotenuse

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yep

thorn comet
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so 8.19ms

zenith falcon
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idk that, didnt check

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and then apply v = u + at

thorn comet
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ohh

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i see

zenith falcon
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(i hope you know what that means)

thorn comet
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so i dont have to do any of the other stuff

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with the full distance of the object

zenith falcon
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nope

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its only asking for velocity

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but do find the peak height of the projectile

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and the height at 1.3s

thorn comet
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and for accelaration

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would i write gravity

zenith falcon
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or like, if it would cross the peak height

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yeah but you need to write -g or +g depending on whether or not the ball is falling or still going upwards

thorn comet
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wouldnt it be going down?

zenith falcon
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not necessarily

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it could be that its going up really slowly

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but its still going up

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so you would write -g

thorn comet
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but i need to figure out the final velocity

zenith falcon
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yeah

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for which you need the acceleration at the moment

thorn comet
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so i would have to use -9.81

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i think

zenith falcon
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again

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not necessarily

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if the ball was going down you would have to write +9.8

thorn comet
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but wasnt it launched from the top'

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i mean to the top

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so the gravity would be acting on it

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downwards

zenith falcon
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thats not how projectile motion works my guy

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what if i threw it and it hit its peak height at 0.5 seconds

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or 0.9 seconds

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and now its going down

thorn comet
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ohh

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i kinda get that now

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but v = u+at doesnt seem to work for the questions

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i dont get any of the options

zenith falcon
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strange

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help me out here @torn jolt , im dying from the burden of being wrong 😭

torn jolt
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Resolve the velocity vector into its x and y components

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it would be u_y = 10sin35 and u_x = 10cos35

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add a -gt term for u_y since horizontally gravity is acting against it

zenith falcon
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bro

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u_x = 10

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not 10cos35

torn jolt
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thats when t = 0

zenith falcon
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brother

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look in the diagram

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the arrow points horizontally, not at an angle

torn jolt
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okay my bad

zenith falcon
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diagram again in just in case

torn jolt
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v(t) = 10î + 10tan35-gt ĵ

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find the magnitude at t = 1.3 and you have your answer

thorn comet
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what does the i and j mean?

torn jolt
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unit vectors in the x and y directions

zenith falcon
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i is the horizontal vector, j is the vertical vector

thorn comet
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ohh

zenith falcon
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dont worry about it

zenith falcon
torn jolt
thorn comet
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wouldnt it be tan?

zenith falcon
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right

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tan would be the actual velocity

torn jolt
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right

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edited

zenith falcon
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wait hold on

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good god im braindead

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yes carry on

thorn comet
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i think im the braindead one

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i managed to get a negative answer

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when that isnt any of the options

zenith falcon
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ok well i tried my method and got around 1.4

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1.54*

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yk its fine ill just ask my teacher for help

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could anyone help me

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i need asap

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i got test soob

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?

flint sage
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i’ll dm u

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acrually here

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we can do it here

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are these correct for 9 a b and c

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is what i did correct

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or no

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First off, let me ask you this. Question says between 1 and 8. Are 1 and 8 included in the sample space or excluded?

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wdym

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what’s a sample space again

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cuz 1 and 8 that’s a 2/8 chance

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u can generate 1 or 8 2/8 times

short bridge
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A sample space is the collection of all the possible outcomes.

torn jolt
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and simplified 1/4

short bridge
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I'm asking if calculator can even give 1?

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wdym

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Gosh

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It says between 1 and 8.

torn jolt
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it says between 1 and 8

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yeah

short bridge
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That might mean that number has to be BETWEEN 1 and 8.

torn jolt
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so what

short bridge
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Is 1 between 1 and 8 ?

torn jolt
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no

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i’m saying for a

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it asks five or an eight

short bridge
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Then how can calculator give 1?

torn jolt
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so it’s 1/8?

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ignore b

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for a

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it would be 1/8 then

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rihh g t

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right

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cuz 5 can be generated

short bridge
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As i said, it depends. If calculator can give 1 or 8 - then your answer(1/4) is correct.

torn jolt
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8 cant

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oh

short bridge
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If it can't, then 1/8 is correct.

torn jolt
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oh

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so 1/8

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what’s a prime number?

short bridge
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I can't guarantee. Book might just have written in confusing terms.

torn jolt
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it’s not in the book

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idk why

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so i’m not sure

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which to do

short bridge
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Is it classwork?

torn jolt
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no

short bridge
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Or just studying on your own?

torn jolt
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it’s practice

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i have a test

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in an hour

short bridge
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Woah. Okay. Well, you get the concept. In exam, hopefully it'll be explicitly mentioned whether or not end points are included.

torn jolt
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yes

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i do get the concept

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but what’s a prime number

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and a composite number

short bridge
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For now, you can proceed in whichever one you wanna proceed with.

torn jolt
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uz look at b and d

short bridge
# torn jolt but what’s a prime number

You should ideally be familiar with that. Primes come before probability, but anyway -
A prime number is such a natural number which is only divisible by 1 and itself. No other number divides it.

torn jolt
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what

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so can u give example

short bridge
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Any positive natural number bigger than 1 which is not a prime is composite.

short bridge
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For example - 2

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It's only divisible by 1 and 2(itself).

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Another example is 11.

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Only divisible by 1 and 11(itself).

torn jolt
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wdym by divisible

short bridge
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That means that it is divided by the number fully. Doesn't leave any remainder.

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2 divided by 1 is equal to 2. Remainder is zero.

torn jolt
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ohhh

short bridge
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2 divided by 2 is equal to 1. Remainder is zero.

torn jolt
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son

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like

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for this case

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1 to 8

short bridge
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So, we say that 2 is divisible by 1 and 2.

torn jolt
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what would the numbers be

short bridge
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You tell me.

torn jolt
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2

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3

short bridge
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Yes

torn jolt
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isnt all numbers

short bridge
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No.

torn jolt
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what’s one that’s not

short bridge
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I'm not going to give you the answer. Try and see for yourself.
You have done till 3.

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Check for 4.

torn jolt
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i don’t want the answer

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i just wanna know one that is

short bridge
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If you want an example, then 10 is an example.

torn jolt
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10 is not included

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in the 1-8

short bridge
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It's divisible by 5 as well.

torn jolt
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i’m so lost

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2 is divisible by 1

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3 is divisible by 1

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4

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5

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6

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7

short bridge
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Yes

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They all are divisible by 1.

torn jolt
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it’s literally every number

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so what

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isnt 10 divisible by 1

short bridge
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Did you even read the definition?

torn jolt
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i did

short bridge
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A prime number is such a natural number which is only divisible by 1 and itself. No other number divides it.

torn jolt
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ye

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ohhhhhhh

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so 10

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can be 5 also

short bridge
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Yes

torn jolt
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4

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but

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4 could be

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2

short bridge
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Yes

torn jolt
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divisible by 2

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so 4 isn’t

short bridge
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So 4 isn't prime.

torn jolt
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a prime number

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ohh

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1 and 2

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that’s all

short bridge
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1 isn't prime.

torn jolt
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oh yeah it doesn’t count

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in the 1

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2 isn’t prime

short bridge
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What?

torn jolt
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1 doesn’t count cuz it says

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1-8

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it’s only 2

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that’s prime

short bridge
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Okay. Good

torn jolt
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perfect square os

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2 square is 4

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so 4

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3 square is

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u cwnt do 3 square

short bridge
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Wait. There aren't only 2 primes between 1 and 8.

torn jolt
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so it’s only 2 and 4?

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what

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three also

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and 5

short bridge
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You found 2 and 3.

torn jolt
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2 3 5

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7

short bridge
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Checked for 4 which turned out to be not a prime.

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Yes. Those 4 are primes.

torn jolt
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it’s 2 3 5 7

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ok so

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then

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perfect swuare

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u perfect swuare all of them rifht

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so 2 square is 4

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3 square u cwnt do it

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so its 5/8

short bridge
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Yes

torn jolt
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right

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and 5/8 can’t be simplified

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c is 1/2 tho

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4/8 = 1/2

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wdym

short bridge
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Oh. Wait

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Yes

torn jolt
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it’s even nunber or a seven

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yeah

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what’s a composite number

torn jolt
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wait

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that’s

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2 3 4 5 6 7

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isn’t it all

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?

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i need an example

short bridge
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You saw that 4 wasn't a prime.

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Therefore, 4 is composite.

torn jolt
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ohh

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4

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so 4

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it says not a composite or an odd number

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so

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4 not a compsoite

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5/8

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right

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4 odd numbers between

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composite is 4

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4+1 is 5

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so 5/8

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OH WAIT

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U HAVE TO DO

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1-5/8

short bridge
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That logic is vastly wrong. I dunno about the answer.

torn jolt
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to get the answer

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it’s 1-4/8

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isn’t it

short bridge
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I don't think so.

torn jolt
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5/8

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cuz it says not a prime number or an odd number

short bridge
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Btw, once again, question is confusing.

torn jolt
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1-5/8

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okoh then what do i do

short bridge
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It says not a composite number

torn jolt
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ye

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not a composite number

short bridge
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That means a prime number.

torn jolt
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alr whatever skip that

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let’s move on to indepdent

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independent

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11

short bridge
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Yes.

torn jolt
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can u help me

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so it says

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which of the following might occur

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there’s up to 6 on dice

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one die is rolled

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so even number

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3/6

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a heart

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13/54 including jokers

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13 hesrt cards

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3/6 even number

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do we add them??

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or no

cyan kelp
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a standard deck doesn't include jokers

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but so far, so good

torn jolt
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oh ok

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13/52

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for cwrds

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and 2/6

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3/6

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for even number

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do we add or

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x

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or

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keep it the same

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If A is the event "you roll an even face" and B is the event "you draw a heart", then A and B are independent events. for independent events, you have P(A and B) = P(A)P(B), where P(A) is the probability that A happens

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so basically, you multiply, but its helpful to understand why

torn jolt
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oh

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do u always multiple

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like when do u not multiply

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like add or subtract

cyan kelp
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if A and B are independent events and you want to find the probability that they both occur, then you multiply the probabilities

torn jolt
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so

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what i’m doing is a independent event

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what about dependent

cyan kelp
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yeah. you say that A and B are independent if, intuitively, knowing something about A doesn't tell you anying about the likelihood of B occuring

torn jolt
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yeah

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so what’s dependent

cyan kelp
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if you roll a die and it lands on 2, you don't become more or less likely to draw a heart.

dependent is where that doesn't happen. If A is the event "you rolled an even number on the die" and B is the event "you rolled a 2 on the die", then if you know that A happened, you now know that there is a 1/3 chance that B happened

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otherwise, you just know that there is a 1/6 chance that B happened after you roll the die

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so A and B are not independent in this case

torn jolt
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wait

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so it’s not independent

cyan kelp
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in the new example i gave, A and B are not independent

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maybe i should have called them C and D

torn jolt
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oh

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so like

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what do u fo when it’s dependent

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do u add

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or still multiply

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?

cyan kelp
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nah, if A and B are dependent events, then its just more difficult to find the probability that A and B both happen

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no good, general way to do it

torn jolt
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oh

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then

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what

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do u do

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?

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dependent is on the own

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i’m confused

cyan kelp
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it depends on the problem

torn jolt
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cuz u x both on the indenpendent

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but like

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for dependent

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what would u do

cyan kelp
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you would have to think about the specific case of the problem more. i can't give a solution that works for all problems

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you would just have to compute P(A and B) a different way

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but 11 is independent events, so you can multiply and don't have to worry about this peepoHappy

torn jolt
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alr

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then

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a compsoite value

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and a face card

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what’s composite

cyan kelp
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composite means not prime. the prime numbers between 1 and 6 are 2,3, and 5

torn jolt
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12 dace cards

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12/52

cyan kelp
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oh wait. 1 isn't prime or composite

torn jolt
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1 is prime

cyan kelp
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so the composite numbers are 4 and 6

torn jolt
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1 divided by 1

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that’s only 1

cyan kelp
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1 is not prime

torn jolt
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right

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how

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what else can u divide to get

cyan kelp
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if a number is prime, it has only two distinct factors. but 1 only has 1 factor, namely 1

torn jolt
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ok so 1 is compsoite?

cyan kelp
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3 is prime because the only factors of 3 are 1 and 3

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its not composite either KEKW its a special case. it's kind of weird

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for it to be composite, it has to have more than two distinct factors

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but it just has one factor, 1

torn jolt
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oh

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ok

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so just don’t worry about 1

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so only 4 and 5

cyan kelp
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yeah, so 4 and 6 are the composite numbers on the face

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sorry i made a typo

torn jolt
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4 and 6

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ye

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cuz 6 divided by 3 and 1

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and 4 divided by 1 and 2

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so they both compsoite

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and then

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thays 12/52 x 2/6

cyan kelp
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4 has factors 1,2, and 4 and 6 has factors 1,2,3,6

torn jolt
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which is 1/13

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which means the even value and a hesrt is more likely to occur

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right

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cuz it’s 1/8

cyan kelp
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yeah, i didn't check the multiplication you did but that's what you should multiply and compare

torn jolt
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i did

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the composite one

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is 1/13

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and

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even number is 1:8

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better chance for even nunber and hesrt

cyan kelp
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okay yeah, i agree. i did the multiplication too

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yeah FeelsOkayMan

torn jolt
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alr

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thanks

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i’m going to do the test now

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cya thanks for the help

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good luck

torn jolt
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thanks

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did you watch the video / read the written exmaple?

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yes

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im looking at the example rn

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i understand where the 1/3 came from but how did they get -12z

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i know -9*3 is -27

hot herald
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long division

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knowing that there's a fractional root, it'd actually be more convenient to use the factor
(3z + 1), also 0 when z=-1/3
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,w factor 3z^3-11z^2-31z-9

hot herald
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also pretty poor example for them to have used

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-1/3 is pretty much the last thing you'd consider testing

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wait oops

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that was for the other problem im stuck on

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but this example pretty much the same

hot herald
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same problem?

fallow sage
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no

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theres this too

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im doing this first tho

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do i try and find a zero

hot herald
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yes

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taht's what the guide says

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start with rational root theorem

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to first find a root and hence factor

fallow sage
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+/- 1,2,3 and 1/2 3/2?

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i think i was making it more complicated in my head

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this one i dont know tho

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i tried +/- 1,2,3 and none were zeros

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nvm 1/3 works

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what did i do wrong

gritty rose
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What does yellow mean

fallow sage
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it means i got some part of it right

gritty rose
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did you factor out y-1/3 out of the cubic?

fallow sage
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i did 1/3 and got a remainder of 0

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and then did the quadratic formula

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on

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to get -3 square root of 66

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Logic question from a friend, explain the relation between these numbers: 5 becomes 7,6 becomes 3, 25 becomes 144, 64 becomes 234.

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you can quite literally come up with anything because there are infinitely many relationships that these could satisfy

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For example

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well when I say "can" I mean "could if I wanted to. but I am too lazy because its a bit of annoying work"

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Then what's the point of answering

fast peak
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the point is that these questions are ill-posed

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i only asked one relation

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I already found one involving single Digits, i Need another One to be sure

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I have a question
A parabola intersects the x-axis at the point x = 5, and the equation of the tangent line at the point P(3/y) is y = -x + 7. Determine the function equation.
anyone can help

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tribal oxide
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Can you translate please not everyone speak German

severe rune
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bro i already did

gritty rose
tribal oxide
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Oh wow I’m blind

severe rune
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severe rune
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oh 1 is to get the function

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2 and 3 are not really importent
but in 2 and 3 is about curvature and curvature degree. and circel

static bramble
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You know 3 pieces of info: the y-values at x=3 and x=5, and the derivative at x=3

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Easiest is perhaps to just form a system of equations to solve for your 3 unknowns (aka the coefficients of the quadratic)

static bramble
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How what

severe rune
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how should i do that

static bramble
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What is the standard form of a quadratic?

severe rune
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ax²+bx+c

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=y

static bramble
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3 unknowns there

severe rune
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a b and c

severe rune
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5^(2)a+5b+c=0
4=-3+7
3^(2)a+3
b+c=y

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and now ?

static bramble
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Your 2nd and 3rd equations need work

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4 = -3 + 7 is correct but doesn't help

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And your third equation can be made more precise because you know what y is

severe rune
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no i dont do I

static bramble
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What are the properties of a tangent line at a point?

severe rune
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0 gradient

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no wait

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y=k*x+d

static bramble
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That's an equation, I asked for properties

severe rune
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tangent does not touch the function ?

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does not cut it

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it shows if the function is positive or negative

static bramble
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So what does that tell you about
a) the value of the curve at that point
b) the gradient(/derivative) of the curve at that point

severe rune
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yes

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so i can use it in the function like this
3^(2)a+3b+c=0

static bramble
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what does it tell you

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It's not a yes or no question

static bramble
severe rune
static bramble
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No it tells you something about both

severe rune
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and what should i do with this information blobcry

static bramble
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The tangent line is at the point (3, y_p)

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What is the value of the curve at x=3?

severe rune
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4

static bramble
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You skipped a step but yes

severe rune
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which one T-T

static bramble
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I was hoping you'd say y_p

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Because I was going to say that the tangent line has the same y-value as the curve at the relevant point

static bramble
# severe rune 4

Use this to make a second equation to solve for your coefficients

severe rune
static bramble
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Nope

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You have 3 unknowns, you need a 3rd equation

severe rune
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where should i get the 3 from

static bramble
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I've already told you where the 3 equations come from

severe rune
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f'(3)=6a+b

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?

static bramble
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And what's the gradient at 3?

severe rune
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4?

static bramble
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That's the y-value

severe rune
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3 then

static bramble
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That's the x-value

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Look at the tangent line again

severe rune
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i really cant see it

static bramble
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What is the equation of the tangent line at x=3?

severe rune
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4=-3+7

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3^(2)a+3*b+c=4

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$|x(x-1)| < 8$

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aguaman

arctic isle
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how the fuck do i do this i'm genuinely so dumb i forgot basic math

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i know this implies

uneven crystal
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ill help\

arctic isle
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-8 < x(x-1) < 8

uneven crystal
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help*

arctic isle
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@uneven crystal okay?

uneven crystal
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what do we have to find the varible X?

arctic isle
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bro what does that question even mean

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maybe the easiest way is to observe that $|x(x-1)| < 8$ is equivalent to $x^2(x-1)^2 < 64$

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arctic isle
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i thought you're not allowed to square both sides

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or at least, there are some instances where you can't

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It gets weird when there's negatives, but in this case there's none

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I personally would do this question the way you did it, and consider each side separately. First:
x(x + 1) < 8

Is very related to:
x(x + 1) = 8

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fathom saddle
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x² + x - 8 = 0
Sadly that doesn't factor very well, but quadratic formula can still get it

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Gives you the two points where x(x+1) crosses 8

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$x = \sqrt{\frac{-1 + \sqrt(33)}{2}|, \sqrt{\frac{-1 - \sqrt(33)}{2}}$

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ew

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arctic isle
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shit

fathom saddle
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Everything between these two points is a solution

arctic isle
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ok

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but is there like

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possibly a better method of doing this?

fathom saddle
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Tbh I thought that was pretty fast haha

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The other side is easier.
-8 < x(x+1)

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Parabola doesn't get that low so everywhere is a solution.

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I’m trying to solve the system of equations at the top for C_1 and C_2 (apologies for the messy work). ive gotten to a representation for C_1, which i put into the second equation, but I’m not sure if my work thus far is correct, or if so where to go from here

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maybe too complex?

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you can equal both equations to obtain:
c1 (e^(ipi/4)-e^(ipi/2)) = c2 *(e^(i7pi/4)-e^(i3pi/4))

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i dont quite understand this

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well 3 and 4 are opposite answers so one of them has to be wrong

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simple ridge
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you have to start by taking right and left limits

west mango
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Lim X to 3^-

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How should it be

simple ridge
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yes $\lim_{x\to 3^-}{f(x)}$ and $\lim_{x\to 3^+}{f(x)}$

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calculus is fun

simple ridge
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for the first limit notice that we want x to get closer and closer to 3 but it will remain < 3

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you can think of it like this

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and for the second limit we want to get closer and closer to x but the numbers will stay > 3

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if you think about these 2 limits in this way

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what will you get for the first lim

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@west mango

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Idk

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It’s the first

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ok if x< 3 then what is f

west mango
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ok

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ok now take the limit as x tends to 3^- for this expression

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do you know how to do this

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No

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ok lets go through this step by step

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first try substituing x=3^-

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so substitute a number very close to 3 but less than 3

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like 2.9 or 2.99

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you should get 0/0 right

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Yea

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ok now try to factor the num

west mango
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ok nice

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now for x>3 what is f

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X-3

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ok $\lim_{x\to 3^+}{f(x)}=\lim_{x\to 3^+}{x-3}=?$

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calculus is fun

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=0

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ok now for x=3 what is f

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Idk

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simple ridge
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what is f(x) for x=3

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=0

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yes right

west mango
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for x=3 f(x)=x-3

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so f(3)=3-3=0

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now compare $f(3),\lim_{x\to 3^+}{f(x)},\lim_{x\to 3^-}{f(x)}$

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calculus is fun

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f(3)left side is indeterminate

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X to 3^-

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it is indeterminate but we solved it and got 6

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Ok so what is the final answer

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now since those 3 arent equal then the limit doesnt exist

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So the limit doesn’t exist

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yes

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Thank you kind sir

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# west mango
What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin
2. I have begun but got stuck midway
3. I got an answer but I'm told it's wrong
4. I got an answer and would like my work checked
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what if you just write (ax + by + c)(dx + ey + f) and multply it out

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then equate coefficients with p(x,y)

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i guess that's what i would do, theres probably a better way though

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I didn't understood

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I would first try completing a square, that 4xy looks like a good candidate. Then the remaining y^2 and x^2 can also contribute to squares and hope for the best

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We can factorize 4x

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Same with 6

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But then 33y?

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what class is this for, are there other similar problems that they've done

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