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I'm doing trade math and desperately need help with it no bot or a.i. can't even answer the problems.. even using a calculator is difficult. If I can get through the final quiz I wont ever have to do it again..
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ai cant even do simple arithmetic
ive seen it fail at 7*5
thought it was 42
<@&286206848099549185> anybody wanna give this a try? Rules are only used provided theorems, solve for d in 5 applications of those theorems. Best we can do is 6
the equation for solving x and y are 180-2x + 180-2y + 58 = 180, right?
Yeah
Well solving x+y
Can't solve for x and y and d individually with just 2 equations
once you solve x+y what happens
You plug it into x+ y+d =180 and solve for d
d=32
wha
what angle theorems did you use
wait
6 angle theorems
holy
you mean you used the term of 6 angles or you mean 6 angle term
uh how
I used a+b+c=180
ITT
like what did you do
pretty sure d is 61
i mean i guess i can put that in and get 1/6 marks for the question
better than nothing
lol nobody answered to this
rip
is it against the rules to use it again
after a certain time period
say like 30 minutes
Hmm not sure actually
I've never opened a help channel so I've never actually read the rules 
Idk even if it's against the rules I don't think anybody will care spesh if u wait
i mean this is all it says
no its 79
i think pinging twice after 30 minutes isnt abusing
why
I haven't actually calculated it I just know how to calculate it
58+3d+x+y=180
Where does 3d come from
418-2x-2y=180
sorry i mean 360
i did it wrong agian
lol
i just keep forgetting to watch what i marked
hmm how are those angles x + d and y+d if u don't mind me asking
oh rip
yeah just the ones on the page lol
nooooooooooooooooooooooooo😡
Hmm
Maybe they'll let you prove it adds up to 360 with sum of angles of triangle theorem tho
you don't have to though
its kinda annoying when i search for answers to geometry problems and the internet says to use trigonometry and im like "im not supposed to know that"
not this one
just in general
ive had it happen many times
ah shit I think this is still 6 steps if you count the proof of sum of angles is quadrilateral is 360 as 2 applications of SATT
axiom doesn't needs to be proved
oh
Sum of angles of quadrilateral is 360 isn't an axiom/theorem
That he can use
He has to prove it from sum of triangles probs
something like that just makes me think that ur overthinking
the answer is meant to be really simple
But it is the final boss too :p
the format is listing the angle theorems used in finding the angle
right?
Mhm
you cut the shape into two triangle
Yeah
which it means the tottal is 360
That's how I'm saying you prove the total is 360
breh
But u gotta use sum of angles is 180 on 2 triangles
My teacher said it doesn't needs to be proved
Yeah but his rules do
this is how the answers are meant to look
i mean i could email my teacher to see if i can use that
yeah
like theres something im not seeing

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I'm faced with quadratic functions rn and I've forgotten how to begin solving them. I don't understand the tutorials online for some reason. Can someone help in explaining the steps? I have the answer(it said 1.48), but I want to understand how to arrive there.
so we're starting off with -3.75(t-0.2)^2+6.15=0 right?
yes
whats your instinct on what to do first if we are trying to isolate t
distribute ^2 then divide?
when you say distribute ^2 what do you mean?
t^2 ?
$(t-0.2)^2 \neq t^2-0.2^2$ if thats what you mean
AℤØ
yes
Ohh
the first thing id do is move 6.15 to the other side
-3.75(t-0.2)^2=-6.15 ?
Oh round off both sides?
nope
not yet
Oh shoot hang on
this will be the step after this one though
Do you multiply both sides by -1?😭
yup
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I'm supposed to be able to solve for moments of mass and inertia, as well as centre of mass, in spherical and cylindrical coordinates
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hi
is this new theorem I made valid?
its called
The Half Theorem
$k(2) = (k(1/2)*4)$
Agent78


Agent78
plug k with a number
i mean
i dont need to try it
to know its true
i think

i was confused cuz ithought u meant k(2) as in k(x), x=2
lol
k is replaced by a number
fyui
i know
^
so does that work?
if so
oh mon
any number x is equal to itself x
Agent78
good luck brother
whats the conclusion
conclusion?
Agent78
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i setup the equation 10.9^2 + b^2 = 13^2 to find segment pb (this is question 27 btw). i got some weird long decimal and we never get those kinds of numbers on tests and other homework so i think i did something wrong.
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What should I do
shouldn't it be $\frac{n}{n+1} a_n = 2$
What should I do
wait
Where is $a_{n} = 2$ ?
Enemagneto
Yes, and the fraction tends to 1 as you take the limit
So you can replace
$$\lim_{n \to \infty} \frac{n}{n+1}a_n$$
by
$$\lim_{n \to \infty} a_n$$
$$\frac{n}{n+1}a_n - \frac{2n-1}{n+1}$$
hmmmm
$$\lim_{n \to \infty} \frac{n}{n+1}a_n = \left( \lim_{n \to \infty} \frac{n}{n+1} \right)\left(\lim_{n \to \infty} a_n \right) =\lim_{n \to \infty} a_n $$
Yuese
Does this make it more clear? I believe the first equality is only valid provided that $(a_n)_n$ is convergent, so I suppose it's not super rigorous
Yuese
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$\int_{-1}^1 \log (\sqrt{1 + x} + \sqrt{1 - x}) \dd{x}$
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I'll be back in a bit, I tried subbing x = cos 2u and x = sin 2u but didn't end up anywhere with it
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P(E ∩ F) = P(E) + P(F) − P(E ∪ F) ≥ P(E) + P(F) − 1 , what this is trying to tell
can you just guide me step by step trough this
Image
are there any assumptions, involved here
can you just guide me step by step trough this
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are there any assumptions, involved here
hmm
in proof where RHS disapper after 2nd line
@onyx glen sry for pinging can yu guide ahead?
*further
the 1st line proves the left half of the goal inequality
the 2nd line begins work on the right half
this is trying to tell P( E Intersection F)=min(P(e),p(f)?
because they say P(E) + P(F) - max(P(E),P(F)) = min(P(E),P(F))
can yu give me exampl, its confusin for me please
P(E) = 0.8, P(F) = 0.4
max(P(E), P(F)) = 0.8
P(E) + P(F) - max(P(E),P(F)) = 0.4 + 0.8 - 0.8 = 0.4
$P(E \cup F) \geq \max(P(E), P(F))$
Ann
probably proved earlier
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Lets say an equation 4a(4-1) would the answer be 4a + 3 or 12a?
4a(4-1) is not an equation
What would be the answer
It's an expression, and simplified, it's equal to 12a
We do the paranthesis first, thats the way to avoid ambiguity with different order of operations.
You can either use the distributive property or first simplify the expression in the brackets
I was just confused wether it was gonna be a 4a + 3 or 12a
If we distribute its just gonna be the same answer anyways
Yes, 16a - 4a = 12a
How did you get 4a+3?
I was dumb thanks for the help
I forgot the PEMDAS rule
Don’t worry about it, the order of operations should be evident from the context
tbh PEMDAS is added to get same answers in elementary math questions
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log₄(x^3) + log₂(√x) = 8
how do i make the base same?
Do you know the change of base rule?
Use it to change that log4 into log2
What would a and b be?
Why'd you change the second one? The base was already 2
Also since when is log2(4) equal to 16??
It seems you calculated 2^4 instead of log2(4)
Ask yourself: 2^what=4?
2
Yes. Now please do this again, but only apply the change of base formula on the left term (the right one already has a base of 2)
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$\frac32\log_2x+\frac12\log_2x=8$
Labyrinth
@stoic parcel This is what you currently have, right?
So now you just need to factor out the log2(x)
And the rest is pretty obvious
doesnt law of logarithm apply here?
log A + log B = LOG (AB)
How does that apply to 3/2+1/2?
Oh wait
Right
log(3/2)+log(1/2)=log(3/4)
YEHA
Except you'll notice 3/2 and 1/2 are out of the logarithms
So this rule does not apply
You just have 3/2+1/2
ohh so it doesnt apply when theres a base?
yeah
Well, 2 is inside the parentheses here
If you wrote 3log(2) you'd have 3 outside and 2 inside
It's that simple
ohh
If you factor out the log2(x) in the equation you have you get (3/2+1/2)log2(x)=8
As you can see there's not a single logarithm wrapped around either of the fractions
All you have is 3/2+1/2
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uhmm
the expression at the top is kinda blurry, could u send another pic but zoomed in on that part
oh
note that $288=2^5\cdot9$
lpieleanu
then, we have $$\log_2(288)=\log_2(2^5\cdot9)=\log_2(2^5)+\log_2(9).$$ Try, to continue simplifying the expression you got from there
lpieleanu
ohh i see but how about the divide by two part
What did you get for the numerator?
log 2^2 (288^1) = 1/2 log2(288) right?
no, currently, using the progress above, the expression is $$\frac{\log_2(2^5)+\log_2(9)}{2} - \frac{1}{6}.$$
lpieleanu
yep, and this can be simplified just a little bit more
cant find it
no clue
first, express it as $$\frac{5}{2}+\frac{\log_2(9)}{2}-\frac{1}{6},$$ then combine the $\frac{5}{2}$ and $-\frac{1}{6}$ and use the fact that $\log_m(n^p)=p\log_m(n)$
lpieleanu
$9=3^2\neq3^3$
lpieleanu
BEAUTIFUL THANKS
what do you get as your answer?
log2 (3) + 7/3
👍
you're welcome
sure
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this correct? @nimble current
yep, very nice job! 
THANKSS YES
now final question ig
how abt this one?
any simplification?
should i make log2 (32)/log2 (10)
@nimble current sorry
you made a tiny error, $\log_3(3^{-2})$ is $-2\log_3(3),$ not $\frac{\log_3(3)}{-2}.$
lpieleanu
oh sorry
and after that? its all complete?
log(32)/-2
yep ✅
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Joseph.P
$(x-16)P(2x)=16(x-1)P(x)$
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2. I have begun but got stuck midway
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hold on 
P(x) = (x-2)(x-4)(x-8)(x-16)Q(x) ?
how did you get this?
fair cop
alright
ok so you got that Q must satisfy Q(x) = Q(2x) for all real x
what polynomials do you know of that do that
Joseph.P
ok fine except for those
i mean it doesnt matter actuaally
but still
what polynomials do you know of that do that?
Ye constant polynomial
Constant polynomials
No because I need to prove Q is constant
you need to prove that if Q satisfies (∀x ∈ R \ {1,2,4,8,16})[Q(x) = Q(2x)] then Q is constant.
consider the polynomial R(x) = Q(x) - Q(3).
well, yes, R does satisfy R(x)=R(2x) as well.
what else can you tell me about R?
and you can prove that?
It would implies that Q is constant but that’s is just an assumption
R has 3 as a root
due to its property of R(x) = R(2x) it also has 6 as a root
and 12, and 24, and so on.....
So R is constant and equal to 0 because it has an infinity of roots ?
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Hi, i need help to find the domain of a function
Basically this is the function
i know that the numerator should be ≥ 0
while the denominator should be different from 0
in the first photo i try do solve that but i'm stuck and idk how to continue
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SIR
HOW I CAN GET PYQ CHAPTERWISE
Calm down with the caps, and this is a public server, so dont start with 'sir'.
For your question, we dont know what PYQ's you're asking for.
Also try #book-recommendations or search online (there are many online sources that provide PYQ's)
yeah they are available online.
I am talking about board class 12 isc
also, this is not a question involving maths
so I am closing the channel, ask your other questions (not math) in #discussion
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Need help to prove Q2b with induction
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How does this shake out any differently to achieve the logical equivalence its asking for
i know you can prove the question using a truth table, but can you also do it using properties of logical equivalence?
I saw someone do something wild with distributive law but that in my book seems to only work if you have three statements p q and r
but theres only 2 here
also i dont know how it would work when two of the statments are negated even if theyre in the right general form
of two or statements being and'd
or two and statements being or'd
When i tried left hand side it seemed even more helpless
i just checked with a truth table
the way that guy applied the distributive property is incorrect as they were not logically equivalent
the work above is mine just to show the question
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well i proved it with a truth table
and like the problem says those are logically equivalent
but still cant figureout how to do it with properties
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You can apply the distributive law here
The law as listed in your book doesn't have to have different variables as it's inputs
It can be terms
Hmm at the very least the way that person did it was incorrect
hmm
ill try some stuff out
Let me write the law as this
Watching Forms
You can choose
That help?
so i can just rename it like normal math
and use the properties
yeha
yeah
ill try that out
Yes, the laws of logic are written in such a way that you can put in any logical term, not just variables
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I'm not really understanding
The second part of the problem
is it just this ?
They're looking for the volume of air you'd have to add
To inflate the balloon from radius r to radius r+1
hint: how much air does a balloon of radius r+1 have, and how much air is already in the balloon
This is the total volume of the r+1 balloon, not the amount you'd have to add to the already partially inflated radius r balloon
hmm
adding more volume is like inflating
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I think i got it
epic latex fail
but its something like this
x is the ammount I add
to make r^3 go to (r+1)^3
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How do you solve this?
show the full question
can you take out the common thing from both numerator and denominator, cancel it, and the solve with 5 to the powers of like 1,2,3,4
you multiply by 5^-2004?
if i told you , i had 3^69 , could i have written it as 3^68 times 3??
similarly can i do something likewise here?
You can if you do it on the top and bottom. That's a valid way to do it
alr
Not conventional, but it's good
i think that is the way my teacher taught us
how about if the expoents wouldve have been negative
Good teacher then. Never did it that way tbh
just multiply by the opposite, so the positive
how did you learn it?
,tex .exp rules
Akira 🍉
look up for negative exp rule
using what Eragon was talking about so (5^2008-5^2006)/(5^2007+5^2004) becomes 5^2004(5^4-5^2) / 5^2004(5^3+1) = (5^4-5^2)/(5^3+1)
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How do you solve this?
Can you say anything about the number of roots of f(x)?
Are you familiar with complex conjugation?
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this is in chinese but all the info given is:
AH perpendicular to BC at H
m angle C is 35 degrees
AB+BH=HC
the question is:
What is the measure of B?
Are you familiar with concepts of similar triangles?
Oh wait. That might not work.
Anyway, have you studied trigonometry?
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trying to figure out how to do these on a BA II using the finance features if anyone knows how
Please don't occupy multiple help channels.
all i know is the compound formula lmao
should solve ur problem
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confused about this problem
as when you find out what n is supposed to be in these, there is typicly one variable
however the 4th derivitive of this has a fex x's in it makeing it two variables
so im not sure what to do
this is the 4th derivative
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I have no idea what they're asking. Wording wise, this wasn't covered in class:
<9
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thats the answer
hmm
That still doesn't help me understand what they're asking me to do
ah
it is |x-5| < 9
yeah thats what i was doing now
Was greater than, which made sense since all the numbers are larger than 9
Thank you
no problem
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How do I cancel out the bottom term? I know it’s possible but I get confused by the negative sign
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State minimum degree of this function
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4 turning points so I got 5 since it's 1 more than there is turning points but it's wrong
How many zeros do you see?
Arguing with turning points seems more difficult.
4
yes but some zeros are not singular zeros
for example the zero at 2 looks like a twofold zero
it looks like a "parabola zero"
Do you see any other zeros that are are not normal zeros?
,wolf plot x²
I'm confused we never learned that
I mean this is degree 2 but has only one zero.
that surprises me
I think turning points are not reliable.
1
no
turning point means bending in one direction and then bending in the other direction
there is no such point here, it all bends only in one direction
How have you introduced turning points? Did you use derivatives?
This is power functions
Polynomial functions have a series of hills and valleys also known as turning points
We also learned about local max/mins points with turning points
Are you perhaps confusing local minima and maxima with turning points? I see in english turning points apparently just refer to minima and maxima. Sorry for the confusion.
This function does have 1 local minimum.
In any case neither of this will work here.
We need to count zeros (porbalby eaisest) or otherwise account for threefold zero.
,wolf plot x³
you see this has no maxima or minima and just 1 turning point
however it's degree 3.
It's called a threefold zero and it's whats happenign in your function at -3
if you want I can explain the way to count zeros (it's easy). Let me know if you need any more help.
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ok my fualt
when x=0 what is y?
0 right?
when y is 0 what is x?
0
wrong
hold on let me get my notebook to right down some things
Graphing lines from slope y-intercept form using slope and y-intercept.
ok im back
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im confused why c) is a polynomial?
it's something like y= x^2 right
yeah
but like
x^2 is not a polynomial
it's only 1
????
not more than 2
Monomials r a subset of polynomials
so monomials are also polynomials?
yes
Yep
yes
Look for the general format of polynomials
Uhh
Not THAT one
no?
isn't it the same thing?
That's not the general format
They show the general form in special cases
cute shark
but linear(degree1) form is enough to prove constants are also polynomials?
Not realy
In linear polynomials defination
We assume a≠0
ah i see
ah i see
no sharp turns
so y = |x| is not a polynomial but y = x is a polynomial
oh also
this explains why
y = |x| not differentiable
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log (54) if log (3) = a and log (5) = b
i dont get where 5 come from
hey can someone help me
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Hi, I am trying to prove the triangle inequality and I am stuck. I did the first case of a,b >= 0, but I need to do the other cases and I am getting a bit confused, and not really sure what to do
I just want to finish this so I can sleep please
constants are degree form^0
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Okay
So what have you done so far
Did you make this format btw
We are required to use this format
But with the individual case work
Keep it organized imo
A >= 0 b >= 0
A >= 0 b < 0
A < 0 b >= 0
A < 0 b < 0
Yeah thats what I was thinking
You got it from here?
its more like my brain is fried from doing proofs for 17 hours and i have no clue whats going on kinda thing yk
Go to sleep
its like i think and then i dont
i have classes tmrw
i wanna finish this off then sleep
its my last thing anyways
wouldnt this
and this
both be practically the same?
@red blade would this be right
Thinks this works
i dont know how to do the other two cases though
idk why would you write >= in the last statement as |a|+|b| = |a+b| when a,b < 0
oh
Is this fine then?
@red blade what do i do from here?
i don't get it
wouldnt you have more subcases or wtv?
idk
i dont get it
@red blade @torn jolt Could I get some help on this one?
What’s up
I don't get how to prove case 3
Case 3 is?
|a| + |b| = b-a
this
Uh make another sub case
Where b + a is positive and b + a is negative
i dont get it
Do it and you will understand
so i make another case?
Yes
Im going to sleep rn
But I’ll check in with you in the morning
one more thing
do i really need a case of where b < 0, and a>=0
since I am going to prove b>=0 and a<0
and they are both the same
ye its short
do you also need to do one for where b+a is = 0?
Oh just include 0 in one of them
wdym?
so would i need 2 or 3 sub cases
i think ill just not go to my morning lecture
i already am ahead in that class anyways
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hi!does anyone know how can i find the origins of certain mathematical formulas or theorems?for example,I was wondering how the trigonometric form of complex numbers was discovered and it came to be?
pls ping me if u answer
this was a good watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PcpBw5Hbwo
Intro to the geometry complex numbers.
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why am i still here after 15 minutes ..
The lack of parentheses
huh
It's (70 * 30)/(7 * 3)
yeah thats what i put
but i didn't add any parentheses on the other one
If you don't use parentheses in the denominator, (70 * 30)/7 * 3 then by order of operations that is read as $\frac{70 * 30}{7} * 3$
dldh06
So it does 70 * 30 * 3 then divided by 7
Because 7 * 3 is grouped in the denominator
(70 * 30)/7 * 3 then by order of operations that is read as $\frac{70 * 30}{7} * 3$
dldh06
Because PEMDAS
You do Multiplication and Division from left to right
So 70 * 30 = 2100
2100/7 = 300
300 * 3 = 900
But (70 * 30)/(7 * 3) you do parenthesess first
So 2100/21
= 100
right
whats pedmas?
Are you more familiar with BODMAS?
