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keen spruce
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@inland latch f(x) has a critical value when ___ = ___?

inland latch
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i just need the points of critical value on the graph f(x) based off the graph

keen spruce
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yes

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when does f(x) have a critical value

inland latch
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when the graph changes direction?

keen spruce
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when f'(x) = what

inland latch
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CROSSES THE X AXIS

keen spruce
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when f'(x)=0

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and change of sign

inland latch
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but how can i know if the point is a global or local point

keen spruce
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we need information about f(x)

inland latch
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b is use the f'(x) to know when f(x) changes directions

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no need to find the exact spot just be able to explain why

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torn jolt
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How to integral right-bottom part?

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oak seal
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change the variable x

torn jolt
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to u?

oak seal
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take u = ln(x)

torn jolt
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yeah i did but

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how to get dv

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oh

oak seal
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u= ln(x). du=1/x dx

torn jolt
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mis typed wait

keen spruce
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yea this is u sub not ibp

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right

torn jolt
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oh

keen spruce
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@oak seal right

torn jolt
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ignore that x after sin on right hand side

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ok I am now trying

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I got sth like "intsymbol sin(u)dx" and I have (1/x)dx = du, so how to simplify further

oak seal
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?

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you should have integral sin(u) du

torn jolt
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how did you get du

oak seal
torn jolt
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is there any 1/x dx

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sorry btw i really suck

oak seal
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it’s clearly sin(ln(x)) / x dx

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the 1/x dx = du

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and you replace the ln(x) with u

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i’m gonna leave you

torn jolt
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okay thx

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Need some help

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@sturdy trail with what

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i don’t understand what it means by sequence

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robust cave
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what goes wrong here:

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robust cave
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$e^{\pi i} = -1$

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robust cave
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$(e^{\pi i})^{\frac{1}{2}} = (-1)^{\frac{1}{2}}$

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robust cave
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$e^{\frac{\pi i}{2}} = i$

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warm abyss
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Where's the problem?

robust cave
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thats my q

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oh

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ok thx

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dark escarp
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How can I differentiate (log x)^2?

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limber flicker
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torn jolt
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⛓️

dark escarp
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@limber flicker @torn jolt 2log x?

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close

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forgetting to multiply by the derivative of the inside

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F(x) = f(g(x))

F'(x) = f'(g(x)) * g'(x)

dark escarp
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@limber flicker fine now?

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Many thanks @limber flicker @torn jolt catlove

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worthy gull
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Hello

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How do I find the charge in a capacitor without a given Volt?

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i need help finding my test statistics

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elder cape
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What will the lowest common denominator here be and why?

keen spruce
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well

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we have a factor on that right fraction that the left doesnt have

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so let's multiply by a giant one to make the denominators equivalent

elder cape
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Yes which is (1+cos(x))

keen spruce
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multiply the numerator and the denominator by it

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(thats really a giant 1)

elder cape
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So the common denominator is (1-cos(x)) × (1 + cos(x)) and the numerator is (1+cos(x)) - 2 ?

elder cape
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Also, is 1-cos(x)^2 a difference of squares?

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Which is just become 1+cosx × 1-cosx

keen spruce
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maybe 😉

elder cape
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?

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keen spruce
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,w (1+cos(x))(1-cos(x))

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ignore

elder cape
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This:

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Becomes this:

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Via common denominator as we discussed, right?

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Yes? No?

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rapid rain
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and then magic

elder cape
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Yes I can further simply but this step is correct right?

rapid rain
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yep

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Yes ty lol

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tepid basin
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how do i get third term?

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i know a1 is 2

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but i dont know what a3 is

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i know third term : a(n-1) = a(3-1) = a2

quaint prawn
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the third term would be a3 right

tepid basin
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yeah

quaint prawn
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where n=3

tepid basin
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yep

quaint prawn
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so then what would be a(n-1)

tepid basin
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a2

quaint prawn
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and don't you know what a2 is

tepid basin
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but i dont know what a2 is equal to

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well

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maybe i'm confusing myself

quaint prawn
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don't you have it entered in right up there

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the second term

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is a2

tepid basin
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i think it wants the solved value

quaint prawn
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yes

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and you find that by plugging in what a(n-1) is

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which is a2

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which you said above is 0

tepid basin
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wait a min

quaint prawn
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so plug in 0 for a_(n-1)

tepid basin
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oh

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so its like a chain thing...

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i see

quaint prawn
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⛓️

tepid basin
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me

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grave moon
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how is rcostheta equal to x?

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grave moon
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what if the radius is equal to 2?

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then cos(theta)*2 is not equal to x

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right?

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does anyone follow it?

rocky vale
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cos(theta) = x/r, yes?

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if r=2

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cos(theta) = x/2

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I think I follow lol

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Isn't this true? I don't see the problem

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Make a triangle with x, y, and r in the first quadrant

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and just do SOH CAH TOA

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and you get cos(theta) = x/r

grave moon
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cos(theta) would equal sqrt(3)

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and that is not equal to x/2

rocky vale
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yeah hang on

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It seems like you're talking about a specific value of theta here?

grave moon
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yeah

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in a 30 60 90 triangle

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if the radius(hypotenuse)

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is equal to 2

rocky vale
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ok sure

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yes

grave moon
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then what would the second longest side be

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sqrt(3)

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right?

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because the shortest would be 1

rocky vale
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sqrt3, yeah

grave moon
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but if we follow that formula rcos(theta)

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r is equal to 2

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and cos(theta) is equal to

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sqrt(3)

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so we get 2*sqrt(3)

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2*sqrt(3) != sqrt(3)

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is my conclusion

static bramble
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sqrt(3) > 1 so cos(theta) cannot possibly equal that

rocky vale
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It sounds like you're describing this triangle, right?

grave moon
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yeah

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so what is cos(30 degrees)?

rocky vale
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following the triangle, this shows cos(30) = sqrt(3)/2

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which is true

grave moon
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wait why is it over 2

rocky vale
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in the triangle?

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Just SOH CAH TOA

grave moon
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but you wrote sqrt(3)

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in the image

rocky vale
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cosine = adj/hyp

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sqrt(3)/2

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The cosine is equal to the x value ONLY in a unit circle

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where the radius is 1

grave moon
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oh..

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and the formula

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rcostheta is not bound to the unit circle?

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it can be outside of the unit cicle?

rocky vale
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nope, if it's a unit circle then r is just equal to 1

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so it's just costheta = x in that case

grave moon
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i see

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thats exactly what i got confused on thanks so much

rocky vale
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no problem 👍

grave moon
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sorry just wanted to ask one more

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so rcos(theta) is from the unit circle?

grave moon
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you said that lol nvm

rocky vale
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haha no problem

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yeah, just thinking of the cosine as the x value of a point on the unit circle is a good way to interpret it

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so if it's a bigger circle, it's just scaled up by a factor of r

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same for sine

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grave moon
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oh i see why i was getting the wrong value

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is it a common mistake for people to think of cos as just adjacent side?

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i had the habbit of thinking as the adjacent side because of the unit circle

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but in reality it's adjacent over hypotenuse

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when i think of a 30 60 90 triangle

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i think of it as 30 degrees on the unit circle

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and just think of adjacent side lol

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which skips the whole process of "over hypotenuse"

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can someone explain example 8 and use it to solve question 2

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vast fossil
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!status

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What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin
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3. I got an answer but I'm told it's wrong
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copper harbor
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to be more clear i want to know how to get to the answer

hallow walrus
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try using different x values

vast fossil
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Alright, you basically need to consider 3 cases: 0 < x < 1, x = 1, x > 1

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Assuming this is not complex analysis

spice orchid
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Negative x too

copper harbor
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nah its fairly simple

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i just forgot how to do it 💀

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do i just test the 3 cases

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spice orchid
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Which would make the limit undefined imo

copper harbor
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the limit is undefined

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but there is a range of x that allows it to be defined

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is there some formula i can use

vast fossil
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Fine, consider |x| < 1, x = 1, x = -1, and |x| > 1

copper harbor
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ok thats helpful thanks

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in theory it can negative to -1 right

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well not -1 but up to -1

vast fossil
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Limit of (-1)^n doesn't exist

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If that's what you are talking about

hallow walrus
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the limit wont exist for any negative x

copper harbor
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i got -1 < x <= 1

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hallow walrus
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how

vast fossil
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It still goes to 0

copper harbor
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yeah

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lim n-> infinity

vast fossil
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Some complex numbers getting in the way but still

copper harbor
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i mean its calculus so we don't have ot think that far

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copper harbor
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ok thanks

hallow walrus
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ah yes

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it does

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how do i close this lol

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It's .close

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ok thanks

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It's hidden cuz I took the "Not very ppl" role

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ah

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I still have Very Active and Helpful

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I was wondering how to get this problem started

fallen loom
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so f(6)=5

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let the function be y=f(x)

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that means when you put x=6, you get y=5

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hence, (6,5) is one point on the graph of the function in x-y plane

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similarly you can find the other point

fossil mason
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Ok then put that into the slope formula and find the slope of the line

fallen loom
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and using the two points find the slope of the line

fossil mason
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Then put it into slope intercept formula then that’s the answer

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Thx

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what am i doing wrong here

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I integrated

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and i got -1/3+x

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then a/1-r

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-1/3-(-x)

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AR^n

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-1*(-x)^n

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is that not correct?

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You integrated 1/(3+x)² to get to -1/(3+x), which give you its power series, and then you... do what exactly?

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Basically you want to use the fact that :
$\frac{1}{1+x} = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}(-1)^nx^n$

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rafilou2003

stray rover
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a/1-r

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=

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series of X^n

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Ok, so then

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where a is constant

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$\frac{a}{1-x} = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}ax^n$

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?

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rafilou2003

stray rover
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ye

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-1/3-(-x)

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is = to

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-1/3+x

rapid rain
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Write it down

stray rover
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i have

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our X

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is (-x)

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a is -1

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so -1*(-x)^n

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which is (-1)(-1)^n(x)^n

rapid rain
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But that doesn't give you the good stuff

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wym

rapid rain
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You want $\frac{1}{3+x} = \frac{a}{1-r}$

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rafilou2003

rapid rain
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What did you pick for a, and what did you pick for r? And does it make sense?

stray rover
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a is -1

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r is (-x)

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rafilou2003

stray rover
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how

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this is the same thing

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is that

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its in the form of a/1-r

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stray rover
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ohh

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i forgot

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lol

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mb

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multiply

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by 1/3

rapid rain
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There we go

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Now we can apply :
$\frac{-1}{3+x} = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\frac{-1}{3}(\frac{-x}{3})^n$

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rafilou2003

rapid rain
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So $\frac{-1}{3+x} = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}(-1)^{n+1}\frac{x^n}{3^{n+1}}$

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rafilou2003

rapid rain
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Got it @stray rover ?

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rapid rain
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So now, to get back to 1/(3+x)², what do we do...?

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rapid rain
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Yep

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yea but how

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is it not (-1/3)(-1/3)^n(x)^n

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rapid rain
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$(\frac{-x}{3})^n = (\frac{-1}{3})^nx^n$

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rafilou2003

stray rover
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the derivative

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of that would be

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(-1)^(n+1)n*(x)^(n-1)

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/

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3^(n+1)?

rapid rain
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yes

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though you will need to reindex the sum, not sure if x^(-1) is pretty

stray rover
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how did they get this then

rapid rain
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$(-1)^{k+2}(k+1)\frac{x^k}{3^{k+2}}$

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rafilou2003

stray rover
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how did u get k+2

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im confused for that part

rapid rain
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see what i did there ? everytime there was an "n", I replaced it by "k+1"

stray rover
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ooh

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i see

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why do we have to do this tho

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stray rover
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ah i c

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or (x-c)^n only?

rapid rain
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Yes

stray rover
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ok then for this

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we just take antidervative

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of this and we get -2/u^2

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which is what we did basically in the part 1

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but multiply by -2

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i get

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now we do like m=k-1?

rapid rain
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Yes

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Also, it's divided by -2

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Not multiplied

stray rover
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why divided

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oh wiat

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yea

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right

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boom chakala

stray rover
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and for this its the same thing multiplied by x^2?

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or different

rapid rain
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Well now yes we multiply by x^2

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And it's done

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So x² * x^n = x^(?)

stray rover
rapid rain
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yes

stray rover
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and for this one we take the dervative

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and get

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we find series for that

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then multiply by -2x?

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then take the integral of that

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right?

rapid rain
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you don't know the power series of ln(1-x)?

stray rover
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and no

rapid rain
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$\frac{1}{1-x} = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}x^n$

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rafilou2003

rapid rain
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integrating this:

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-ln$(1-x) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\frac{x^{n+1}}{n+1}$

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rafilou2003

rapid rain
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replacing x by x^2 :

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ln$(1-x^2) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}-\frac{x^{2n+2}}{n+1}$

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easy, isn't it?

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how would we do it using dervatives

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and integrals

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i assume thats how my teacher wants me to d o it

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well, that's pretty much how i did it:
step 1: derivate ln(1-x) (easier expression) to get 1/(1-x)
step 2: develop the power series of 1/(1-x)
step 3: integrating the power series, ln(1-x) - ln(1) = ...
step 4: replace x by x^2 to get the result for ln(1-x^2)

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yeah

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but

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how would go if u started from ln(1-x^2)

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no?

rapid rain
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ok in that case, derivate $ln(1-x^2)$ to get $\frac{-2x}{1-x^2} = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}-2x*x^{2n}$

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rafilou2003

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ln$(1-x^2) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}-\frac{x^{2n+2}}{n+1}$

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rafilou2003

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a has to be a constant

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and we have -2x

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thats what i was asking here

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if we do it this way

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how come

rapid rain
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well, since 1/(1-x) = sum (x^n), if we just multiply by -2x on both sides we get
-2x/(1-x) = sum (-2x*x^n)

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and there's nothing wrong with that

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get the series of 1/(1-x)^2

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after factoring out the -2x

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then multiply by -2x

rapid rain
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alright

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so i get this

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-2x^2n+1

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which is the derviative

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of ln(1-x^2)

rapid rain
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Yep

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simplify to this?

rapid rain
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x^2n+1 + 1/2n+1 + 1

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I assume you meant -x^(2n+2)/(n+1)

rapid rain
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-x^(2n+2)/(n+1)

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which can be further simplified to

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no

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why not

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for starters, you get a non zero coefficient in 3

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then, the coefficient in x^2 is positive

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perhaps you meant $\frac{((-1)^n-1)x^{n+2}}{2n+2}$

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nvm

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no

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Idk why u cant do that

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so

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our An

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is -1/n+1

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to find coefficients

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no i mean from -x^2n+2/n+1

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we have to simplify that?

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not needed

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how the heck

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R is x^2n+2

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the rest left is -1/n+1

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you can use the ratio test to show that $\frac{\frac{r^{2n+4}}{n+2}}{\frac{r^{2n+2}}{n+1}} \longrightarrow 1$

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so r = ...

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because they dont change right

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if we integrate or differentate

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and from -2x/1-x

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r is x

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if you want to determine the convergence radius, you replace x in the formula by r, and you put everything in absolute value

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since we know r = x

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right?

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-1<x<1

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R = 1

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Ok good

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from -2x/1-x

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equation

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because r never changes

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so that is correct?

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by r i meant R

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oh

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i was taking about

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yea

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I was talking about something else here

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lol i think u got confused

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I was talking about the geometric Ar^n

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to get the coefficients

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is what i meant

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to get coefficients

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what coefficients c0,c1,c2,c3,c4 did you get?

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you almost have the idea

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ln$(1-x^2) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}-\frac{x^{2n+2}}{n+1}$, but from here we have to deduce ln$(1-x^2) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}c_nx^n$

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do you see what I mean? @stray rover

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an is what i meant is cn

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so we have to get

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x^n

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by itself in the series we have?

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do you get it @stray rover ?

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no not really

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we also know ln$(1-x^2) = -\frac{x^{2}}{1} - \frac{x^{4}}{2} - \frac{x^{6}}{3} + ...$

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so from this, can you identify the values of c0,c1... ?

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It should be easy once I write that $c_0x^0 + c_1x^1 + c_2x^2 + c_3x^3 + c_4x^4 + ... = -x^{2} - \frac{x^{4}}{2} - \frac{x^{6}}{3} + ...$

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@stray rover ping me if you need more help

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-1

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no, that's the coefficient in x^2

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oh 0

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0

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the coefficient in x^1 is...

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-1/2

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how are u getting that?

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the equation is -x^2n+2/n+1

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c_0

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-x^2/1

rapid rain
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-x^2/1

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-x^4/2 when n = 1

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c_0 is not when n=0, it's the coefficient in front of x^0

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here, there is no term in x^0, so c_0 = 0

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Oooh

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thats what

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you mean

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when c_0 they mean what is when x^0

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C_1

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when x is x^1

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?

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yes

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so, by that logic, what are the values of c0,...,c4?

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0 0 -1 0 -1/2

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but i had 1 question for that

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yesterday

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this question and i get n10^n*(-1)^n+1(x^n-1)

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and i used for C_0 = n10^n*(-1)^n+1

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yeah, it won't work this way

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it did tho

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it works if it is ... * x^n

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i just plugged in 1 for C_0

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but that's the same as taking (...)x^n

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,d/dx

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in here its asking what is the lowest degree coefficient we can find?

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that isnt a 0

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would be coefficient of 12

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and c_12 is 70/12

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It's asking about the lowest n such that c_nx^n is not zero

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So It's 12

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but it wasnt asking for coefficient

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x^12 which is C_12

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when n = 0

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also

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the first part is correct

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but idk why when i simplify it gets wrong

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Because you have to distribute the exponents

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(-2x⁷)^n = (-1)^n 2^n x^(7n)

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oh

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we have to do the 2 as well

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i didnt know

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What did you find for convergence radius?

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its wired

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r = -2x^7

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|-2x^7|<1

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-1/2<x^7<1/2

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sqrt of 7(-1/2) < x < sqrt of 7(1/2)

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how am i supposed to check convergence

rapid rain
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It works, don't worry

stray rover
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the endpoints

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💀

rapid rain
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Looking at $f(-⁷\sqrt{\frac{1}{2}})$, you can immediately see the problem

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rafilou2003

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@stray rover does this answer your question?

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what do u see that i dont

rapid rain
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What happens when x = -7throot(1/2) ?

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0

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but 7throot(1/2)

rapid rain
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0???

stray rover
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x^5/0

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=0

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1/0 = 0 now?

stray rover
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2*root(-1/2)

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is -1

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+1

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is 0

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x^5/0

rapid rain
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I think you're confusing yourself

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Because 1/0 is most certainly not 0

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Other wise, 1=0 and that's definitely not true either

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1/0 DNE

rapid rain
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Yes

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So f(-7throot(1/2)) is DNE, so the convergence radius IS 7throot(1/2)

stray rover
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why are we plugging in

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F(X)

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when we need to check the convergence

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in the series

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thats how we do it

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or my teacher does

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so would it be (-1)^n(2)^n(7root(-1/2))^7n+5

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and we would have to do AST

rapid rain
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Well, if f(-7throot(1/2)) is DNE, then obviously sum((-2)^n (-7throot(1/2))^(7n+5)) does not converge

stray rover
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ok what about

rapid rain
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If you want to expand, it just becomes -7throot(1/2)^5*sum(1)

stray rover
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7throot(1/2))

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we have to check that as well

rapid rain
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You're going to get 7throot(1/2)^5*sum((-1)^n)

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Does this converge or diverge?

stray rover
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why are putting in f(x)

rapid rain
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Nothing to do with f(x) here

stray rover
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teenw why u write that

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it would be

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(-1)^n(2)^n(7root(1/2)^7n+5

rapid rain
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can u write that in latex

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hard to understand

rapid rain
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rafilou2003

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Clearer @stray rover

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no because where did ur 5 go

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why not just say this

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im confused

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ur just plugging in 7root(1/2)

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into x

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$(-1)^n2^n × ⁷\sqrt{\frac{1}{2}}^{7n+5} = (-1)^n × ⁷\sqrt{\frac{1}{2}}⁵(2× ⁷\sqrt{\frac{1}{2}}⁷)^n = (-1)^n× ⁷\sqrt{\frac{1}{2}}⁵$

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rafilou2003

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Clearer?

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i have qquestion for interval of convergence
How are we supposed to check it
the endpoints
i get like some absurd number
7root(-1/2) < x < of 7root(1/2)
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I have a test tomorrow, and want to be able to check all my answers to make sure they are correct.

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I know that if I have a number like 2, I could just plug it back into the original equation to see if it’s true.

If its true the answr is correct, right?

But how could I check my answer when I get an answer like this?

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not practical to go back and check your answer for everything due to time constraints,
you can plug your values like any other, its just more tedious to do the expansion

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but ideally make sure each individual step is done properly

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hot herald
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you can plug your values like any other, its just more tedious to do the expansion

torn jolt
hot herald
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using conjugates may help,

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though you could multiply both sides by the lcd just like before

torn jolt
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a+b and a-b are conjugates of each other

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opposite is a vague word, try not to use it

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But is this how I have to do it then?

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How would I even do this

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@hot herald

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hello can i get a help from this one?

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im stuck with the integration part

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this is where im at

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knowing this is a trigo sub im still confused with the later process on solving, please help me, also im having trouble finding the new limits for this one consider that t=3 and t=0

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,rotate

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boi is that an integral symbol

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sorry for the symbol

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but yes

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Your set up looks correct. Evaluating it seems very difficult though.

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can you show the rest of your work

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here, sorry if its quite messy

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@pulsar gale

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jeesus

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thats one question?

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yessir

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holy

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thats why im totally jdjsjdjsjsjsjsjs

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idk what to do now

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im guessing no calculator?

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plus, our prof wont allow us to answer in decimals so it has to be in simpliest form without decimals

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please help me, to anyone here 🥹

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prob will take a few hours to find someone ngl

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pulsar gale
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nah i never learned trig subs 💀

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yeah I was just gonna say

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use that

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@devout inlet what is that pfp

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It seems to complicated to do reasonably.

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The deputy head USEC (one of the two factions you can pick from) as I call him, the black beret is the head USEC. It's a bald USEC in the game Escape from Tarkov with a blue beret on. It's just a meme between my friends really. 🙂

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gotcha

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can u please help me h

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but it did not show how did the limits changed hehe sorry for asking to much

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im just confused how they got new limits

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Maybe leave out the bounds till the end and put everything back to t.

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until i got back the values?

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Just don't include bounds. Go through the process to solve

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$\int \sqrt{\frac{1}{2} t^2 + 1} \dd{t}$.

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stabulo

grizzled ridge
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The calculator will almost certainly give the correct answer.

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This isn't really taught in most calculus classes, but I would use an Euler Substitution for this kind of integral

grizzled ridge
quiet stirrup
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So you would in this case factor out the constant sqrt(2). Then use sqrt(x^2 + 2) = x + t as your substitution

quiet stirrup
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The first example in the wikipedia entry, despite looking quite different from yours is basically the same algebra

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It's not the most useful exercise tbh. I use an euler substitution maybe once every 3 years.

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I feel like you could learn many tricks like this form the old calculus books. I should probably look to study them at some point.

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I was taught this in honors calculus. I think Stewart probably has it somewhere. He has good exercises that are only appreciated by people that already know Calculus

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All the advanced tricks boil down to Euler sub, Half angle sub, Differentiation under the integral sign, or the residue theorem. The old books are not like a secret repository of black magic

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Oh and just using the definition and knowledge of series

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I don't like Stewart personally, I'm not even sure why anymore.

quiet stirrup
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Eh, he earned his fortune, no reason to promote it for his heirs.

devout inlet
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True. He's cashed in for sure.

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i still couldnt get it :((

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A fun fact is that he has the half angle substitution in his book. He says it is invented by Karl Weierstrauss with no citation. To this date all citations end up at Stewart and there is no evidence that Weierstrauss actually knew this technique.

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my answer would be correct if i remove yhe one that i encircled

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but it is part of the limit

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can u guys help me how to get this correct, please 🥹

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guys, @quiet stirrup @devout inlet 🥹

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I don't know about the Euler trick.

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me neither 😭

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I don't really want to grind out the calculation that I described using the Euler substitution, but you can see that if you use the substitution I gave you, that the integrals are the same

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If you use the substitution sqrt(t^2 + 2) = t + w and do the "u" substitution correctly, you will get the integral on the left hand side which is easy but annoying to integrate, and you can see it agrees with the integral you are trying to calculate since their difference is zero

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Just want to make sure the math is correct here

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So the equation is

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This

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And we need to find the x and y intercepts

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i get why min(X,Y) < a implies x < a or y < a

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but why does max(X,Y) < a imply x<a and y < a

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It doesn't

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sorry i corrected

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But min(X,Y) > a does

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hmm

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im confused

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okay so min(X,Y) > a implies X >a Or Y>a

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Wait what

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Nvm

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I mixed it up

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idk im correcting what u said

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not correcting

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repeating

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lets say X = 3

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Oh yeah and what u said is correct

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Y = 1

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a = 2

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yes ic ic

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Wait nvm lol

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min(1,3) is 1

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Wait yes

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2

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Yes

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but Y isnt bigger than a here

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it should be Or not and

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i think

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?

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What

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okay lets

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im gonna try to translate into enlgih that helps

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Wait i am messing this up so bad

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You are correct

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min(X,Y) > a that means the smaller of X and Y is bigger than a

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It only implies one of them

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which means the second letter which is bigger

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also has to be bigger

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OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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so min(X,Y) > a implies X > a and Y > a

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max(X,Y) > a

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i dont think this implies anything

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because the bigger of the two is bigger than a but the second can be smaller

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but max(X,Y) < a should

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the bigger of the two is smaller than a that means the second that is smaller has to also be less than a

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right right right

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english alwyas helps me

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I’m trying to do partial fractions set up but u can’t see where I went wrong

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it is (3c-3b)x

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but you wrote (3b+c)x

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hi, how can i solve it?

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$2=x +e^x$

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gelmemeti

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do you know lambert w function?

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Not gonna work here

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nop

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Thats xe^x

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it would be possible to solve it with lambert w

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no idea, i'm going to study that

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thanks

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solution of a=x*e^x is defined to be W(a)

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mmm okay, if i don't understand "lamber w function" i'll ask again, thanks 🙂

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literally i have no idea about this concept

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why do we want to solve for this? ^^

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what do u mean by that

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tbh I have no idea whats going on in that explaination lmao

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it seems the r^n equation came outta nowhere

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because r is the unknown here

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whats the point of putting n in the power though?

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don't I already have this equation

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it means the n-nth term

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my bad I meant in here

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can someone pls explain how to solve this?

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I would start by identifying the intersection points of x = y^2 and x = y^3

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how would u solve $4x^3-2x^2+4x-2=0$

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i forgot how to do this

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Hehehehaw

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You can try hit and trial method