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@inland latch f(x) has a critical value when ___ = ___?
i just need the points of critical value on the graph f(x) based off the graph
when the graph changes direction?
yes... getting closer
when f'(x) = what
CROSSES THE X AXIS
but how can i know if the point is a global or local point
we need information about f(x)
b is use the f'(x) to know when f(x) changes directions
no need to find the exact spot just be able to explain why
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How to integral right-bottom part?
change the variable x
to u?
take u = ln(x)
u= ln(x). du=1/x dx
mis typed wait
oh
@oak seal right
ignore that x after sin on right hand side
ok I am now trying
I got sth like "intsymbol sin(u)dx" and I have (1/x)dx = du, so how to simplify further
how did you get du
.
it’s clearly sin(ln(x)) / x dx
the 1/x dx = du
and you replace the ln(x) with u
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Need some help
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@sturdy trail with what
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what goes wrong here:
$e^{\pi i} = -1$
Suro
$(e^{\pi i})^{\frac{1}{2}} = (-1)^{\frac{1}{2}}$
Suro
$e^{\frac{\pi i}{2}} = i$
Suro
Where's the problem?
thats my q
That equation is true?
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How can I differentiate (log x)^2?
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@limber flicker @torn jolt 2log x?
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F(x) = f(g(x))
F'(x) = f'(g(x)) * g'(x)
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What will the lowest common denominator here be and why?
well
we have a factor on that right fraction that the left doesnt have
so let's multiply by a giant one to make the denominators equivalent
Yes which is (1+cos(x))
So the common denominator is (1-cos(x)) × (1 + cos(x)) and the numerator is (1+cos(x)) - 2 ?
yes
maybe 😉
?
I mean it was already factored 
This:
Becomes this:
Via common denominator as we discussed, right?
Yes? No?
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you can simplify the numerator a little more
and then magic
Yes I can further simply but this step is correct right?
yep
Also, is 1-cos(x)^2 a difference of squares?
it is 1^2 - cos(x)^2, so I think you'll agree that yes
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how do i get third term?
i know a1 is 2
but i dont know what a3 is
i know third term : a(n-1) = a(3-1) = a2
the third term would be a3 right
yeah
where n=3
yep
so then what would be a(n-1)
a2
and don't you know what a2 is
i think it wants the solved value
yes
and you find that by plugging in what a(n-1) is
which is a2
which you said above is 0
wait a min
so plug in 0 for a_(n-1)
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how is rcostheta equal to x?
what if the radius is equal to 2?
then cos(theta)*2 is not equal to x
right?
does anyone follow it?
cos(theta) = x/r, yes?
if r=2
cos(theta) = x/2
I think I follow lol
Isn't this true? I don't see the problem
Make a triangle with x, y, and r in the first quadrant
and just do SOH CAH TOA
and you get cos(theta) = x/r
then what would the second longest side be
sqrt(3)
right?
because the shortest would be 1
sqrt3, yeah
but if we follow that formula rcos(theta)
r is equal to 2
and cos(theta) is equal to
sqrt(3)
so we get 2*sqrt(3)
2*sqrt(3) != sqrt(3)
is my conclusion
sqrt(3) > 1 so cos(theta) cannot possibly equal that
It sounds like you're describing this triangle, right?
wait why is it over 2
cosine = adj/hyp
sqrt(3)/2
The cosine is equal to the x value ONLY in a unit circle
where the radius is 1
oh..
and the formula
rcostheta is not bound to the unit circle?
it can be outside of the unit cicle?
nope, if it's a unit circle then r is just equal to 1
so it's just costheta = x in that case
no problem 👍
oh yeah
you said that lol nvm
haha no problem
yeah, just thinking of the cosine as the x value of a point on the unit circle is a good way to interpret it
so if it's a bigger circle, it's just scaled up by a factor of r
same for sine
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oh i see why i was getting the wrong value
is it a common mistake for people to think of cos as just adjacent side?
i had the habbit of thinking as the adjacent side because of the unit circle
but in reality it's adjacent over hypotenuse
when i think of a 30 60 90 triangle
i think of it as 30 degrees on the unit circle
and just think of adjacent side lol
which skips the whole process of "over hypotenuse"
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can someone explain example 8 and use it to solve question 2
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What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin
2. I have begun but got stuck midway
3. I got an answer but I'm told it's wrong
4. I got an answer and would like my work checked
5. I have a question about someone else's worked solution
6. None of the above
try using different x values
Alright, you basically need to consider 3 cases: 0 < x < 1, x = 1, x > 1
Assuming this is not complex analysis
Negative x too
Won't (-3)^n for example go through complex numbers as n gets bigger/generally changes?
Yeah
Which would make the limit undefined imo
the limit is undefined
but there is a range of x that allows it to be defined
is there some formula i can use
Fine, consider |x| < 1, x = 1, x = -1, and |x| > 1
ok thats helpful thanks
in theory it can negative to -1 right
well not -1 but up to -1
the limit wont exist for any negative x
i got -1 < x <= 1
x = -0.1?
how
It still goes to 0
Some complex numbers getting in the way but still
i mean its calculus so we don't have ot think that far
Yeah that's it
does that work?
ok thanks
how do i close this lol
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It's .close
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ok thanks

where'd your colour go
It's hidden cuz I took the "Not very ppl" role
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I was wondering how to get this problem started
so f(6)=5
let the function be y=f(x)
that means when you put x=6, you get y=5
hence, (6,5) is one point on the graph of the function in x-y plane
similarly you can find the other point
Ok then put that into the slope formula and find the slope of the line
and using the two points find the slope of the line
yes!
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what am i doing wrong here
I integrated
and i got -1/3+x
then a/1-r
-1/3-(-x)
AR^n
-1*(-x)^n
is that not correct?
You integrated 1/(3+x)² to get to -1/(3+x), which give you its power series, and then you... do what exactly?
Basically you want to use the fact that :
$\frac{1}{1+x} = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}(-1)^nx^n$
rafilou2003
im using a/1-r
Ok, so then
where a is constant
$\frac{a}{1-x} = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}ax^n$
?
rafilou2003
Write it down
But that doesn't give you the good stuff
wym
You want $\frac{1}{3+x} = \frac{a}{1-r}$
rafilou2003
What did you pick for a, and what did you pick for r? And does it make sense?
But then this gives you $\frac{-1}{1+x}$, which is not it
rafilou2003
But the formula is for a/1-r, not a/3-r
There we go
Now we can apply :
$\frac{-1}{3+x} = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\frac{-1}{3}(\frac{-x}{3})^n$
rafilou2003
So $\frac{-1}{3+x} = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}(-1)^{n+1}\frac{x^n}{3^{n+1}}$
rafilou2003
Got it @stray rover ?
yes
So now, to get back to 1/(3+x)², what do we do...?
differentiate
Yep
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ok im confused
@rapid rain how did u get this
from this @stray rover
how did u get the 1
it is exactly what i wrote
$(\frac{-x}{3})^n = (\frac{-1}{3})^nx^n$
rafilou2003
how would i do this
reindex the sum : take k = n-1
so this expression becomes, in terms of k
$(-1)^{k+2}(k+1)\frac{x^k}{3^{k+2}}$
rafilou2003
see what i did there ? everytime there was an "n", I replaced it by "k+1"
ooh
for example, 3^(n+1) becomes 3^((k+1) + 1), which is 3^(k+2)
we always need to have x^n in our series, not x^(n-1) or anything else
H
ah i c
or (x-c)^n only?
Yes
ok then for this
we just take antidervative
of this and we get -2/u^2
which is what we did basically in the part 1
but multiply by -2
i get
now we do like m=k-1?
x^2+n
yes
and for this one we take the dervative
and get
we find series for that
then multiply by -2x?
then take the integral of that
right?
you don't know the power series of ln(1-x)?
i took dervative of ln(1-x^2) here
$\frac{1}{1-x} = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}x^n$
rafilou2003
rafilou2003
rafilou2003
easy, isn't it?
how would we do it using dervatives
and integrals
i assume thats how my teacher wants me to d o it
well, that's pretty much how i did it:
step 1: derivate ln(1-x) (easier expression) to get 1/(1-x)
step 2: develop the power series of 1/(1-x)
step 3: integrating the power series, ln(1-x) - ln(1) = ...
step 4: replace x by x^2 to get the result for ln(1-x^2)
ok in that case, derivate $ln(1-x^2)$ to get $\frac{-2x}{1-x^2} = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}-2x*x^{2n}$
yeah, let me redo it
-ln$(1-x) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\frac{x^{n+1}}{n+1}$
rafilou2003
ln$(1-x^2) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}-\frac{x^{2n+2}}{n+1}$
that would be wrong tho?
a has to be a constant
and we have -2x
thats what i was asking here
if we do it this way
not necessarily
how come
well, since 1/(1-x) = sum (x^n), if we just multiply by -2x on both sides we get
-2x/(1-x) = sum (-2x*x^n)
and there's nothing wrong with that
thats what i meant here
.
get the series of 1/(1-x)^2
after factoring out the -2x
then multiply by -2x
so you agree that "a" can be anything, not necessarily a constant
alright
Yep
i don't know why the 2n+2 became 2n+1 in the exponent
antidervative rule
x^2n+1 + 1/2n+1 + 1
you wrote -2x^(2n+2)/(2n+2) which you simplified into -x^(2n+1)/(n+1)
I assume you meant -x^(2n+2)/(n+1)
which is what I got here
yea
-x^(2n+2)/(n+1)
which can be further simplified to
.
no
why not
for starters, you get a non zero coefficient in 3
then, the coefficient in x^2 is positive
perhaps you meant $\frac{((-1)^n-1)x^{n+2}}{2n+2}$
rafilou2003
ln$(1-x^2) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}-\frac{x^{2n+2}}{n+1} = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\frac{((-1)^n-1)x^{n+2}}{2n+2}$
rafilou2003
we still have to further simplify??
nope, you should be able to find the coefficients from here
not needed
you can use the ratio test to show that $\frac{\frac{r^{2n+4}}{n+2}}{\frac{r^{2n+2}}{n+1}} \longrightarrow 1$
rafilou2003
so r = ...
wait r = x
because they dont change right
if we integrate or differentate
and from -2x/1-x
r is x
if you want to determine the convergence radius, you replace x in the formula by r, and you put everything in absolute value
giving us this
well we dont have t odo that tho
since we know r = x
right?
-1<x<1
R = 1
Ok good
i got r
from -2x/1-x
equation
because r never changes
so that is correct?
by r i meant R
so replace "r" here by "R" and you get what i meant
yea
I was talking about something else here
lol i think u got confused
I was talking about the geometric Ar^n
to get the coefficients
isnt a = 1/n+1
is what i meant
to get coefficients
what coefficients c0,c1,c2,c3,c4 did you get?
1,1/2,1/3,1/4,1/5
you almost have the idea
ln$(1-x^2) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}-\frac{x^{2n+2}}{n+1}$, but from here we have to deduce ln$(1-x^2) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}c_nx^n$
rafilou2003
do you see what I mean? @stray rover
yea
an is what i meant is cn
so we have to get
x^n
by itself in the series we have?
we know ln$(1-x^2) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}-\frac{x^{2n+2}}{n+1}$, so know we have to write it out : ln$(1-x^2) = -\frac{x^{2}}{1} - \frac{x^{4}}{2} - \frac{x^{6}}{3} + ...$
rafilou2003
do you get it @stray rover ?
no not really
we know ln$(1-x^2) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}c_nx^n$ = c_0x^0 + c_1x^1 + c_2x^2 + c_3x^3 + c_4x^4 + ...
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we also know ln$(1-x^2) = -\frac{x^{2}}{1} - \frac{x^{4}}{2} - \frac{x^{6}}{3} + ...$
rafilou2003
so from this, can you identify the values of c0,c1... ?
It should be easy once I write that $c_0x^0 + c_1x^1 + c_2x^2 + c_3x^3 + c_4x^4 + ... = -x^{2} - \frac{x^{4}}{2} - \frac{x^{6}}{3} + ...$
rafilou2003
@stray rover ping me if you need more help
-1,-1/2,-1/3
-1,-1/2,-1/3?
what is the coefficient in x^0?
-1
no, that's the coefficient in x^2
-1/2
look again
@stray rover
c_0 is not when n=0, it's the coefficient in front of x^0
here, there is no term in x^0, so c_0 = 0
if you really want to get the general expression of c_n, use this
Oooh
thats what
you mean
when c_0 they mean what is when x^0
C_1
when x is x^1
?
0 0 -1 0 -1/2
but i had 1 question for that
yesterday
i did
this question and i get n10^n*(-1)^n+1(x^n-1)
and i used for C_0 = n10^n*(-1)^n+1
yeah, it won't work this way
it did tho
it works if it is ... * x^n
i just plugged in 1 for C_0
ah i see now
oh yeah if you plug n+1 for c_n
but that's the same as taking (...)x^n
,d/dx
in here its asking what is the lowest degree coefficient we can find?
that isnt a 0
would be coefficient of 12
and c_12 is 70/12
so i did it correct
but it wasnt asking for coefficient
x^12 which is C_12
when n = 0
also
the first part is correct
but idk why when i simplify it gets wrong
So x⁵(-2x⁷)^n = (-1)^n 2^n x^(7n+5)
What did you find for convergence radius?
bruh idk how to check it
its wired
r = -2x^7
|-2x^7|<1
-1/2<x^7<1/2
sqrt of 7(-1/2) < x < sqrt of 7(1/2)
how am i supposed to check convergence
It works, don't worry
Looking at $f(-⁷\sqrt{\frac{1}{2}})$, you can immediately see the problem
rafilou2003
@stray rover does this answer your question?
no not really
what do u see that i dont
Go back to f(x) = x⁵/(2x⁷ + 1)
What happens when x = -7throot(1/2) ?
0???
1/0 = 0 now?
I think you're confusing yourself
Because 1/0 is most certainly not 0
Other wise, 1=0 and that's definitely not true either
1/0 DNE
why are we plugging in
F(X)
when we need to check the convergence
in the series
thats how we do it
or my teacher does
so would it be (-1)^n(2)^n(7root(-1/2))^7n+5
and we would have to do AST
Well, if f(-7throot(1/2)) is DNE, then obviously sum((-2)^n (-7throot(1/2))^(7n+5)) does not converge
ok what about
If you want to expand, it just becomes -7throot(1/2)^5*sum(1)
why are putting in f(x)
Oh we're just looking at the power series and inputing 7throot(1/2)
Nothing to do with f(x) here
@stray rover
where did 7n go
can u write that in latex
hard to understand
$2^n * ⁷\sqrt{\frac{1}{2}}^{7n} = (2*⁷\sqrt{\frac{1}{2}}⁷)^n = 1$
rafilou2003
Clearer @stray rover
no because where did ur 5 go
why not just say this
im confused
ur just plugging in 7root(1/2)
into x
$(-1)^n2^n × ⁷\sqrt{\frac{1}{2}}^{7n+5} = (-1)^n × ⁷\sqrt{\frac{1}{2}}⁵(2× ⁷\sqrt{\frac{1}{2}}⁷)^n = (-1)^n× ⁷\sqrt{\frac{1}{2}}⁵$
rafilou2003
Clearer?
Thus this @stray rover
@stray rover Has your question been resolved?
oooh yes
i think the placement of 7 here confused me
that would mean it converges?
right
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i have qquestion for interval of convergence
How are we supposed to check it
the endpoints
i get like some absurd number
7root(-1/2) < x < of 7root(1/2)
are endpoints
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I have a test tomorrow, and want to be able to check all my answers to make sure they are correct.
I know that if I have a number like 2, I could just plug it back into the original equation to see if it’s true.
If its true the answr is correct, right?
But how could I check my answer when I get an answer like this?
not practical to go back and check your answer for everything due to time constraints,
you can plug your values like any other, its just more tedious to do the expansion
but ideally make sure each individual step is done properly
But I want to make sure I am correct
you can plug your values like any other, its just more tedious to do the expansion
Oh, let me try. But idk how I’m going to plug that “number” in
Bro, what is even that
🤯
using conjugates may help,
though you could multiply both sides by the lcd just like before
What is a “conjugate”? The opposite of something you mean?
Ok
But is this how I have to do it then?
How would I even do this
@hot herald
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hello can i get a help from this one?
im stuck with the integration part
this is where im at
knowing this is a trigo sub im still confused with the later process on solving, please help me, also im having trouble finding the new limits for this one consider that t=3 and t=0
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boi is that an integral symbol
sorry sir
Your set up looks correct. Evaluating it seems very difficult though.
can you show the rest of your work
yessir
holy
im guessing no calculator?
yeah, no calculator
plus, our prof wont allow us to answer in decimals so it has to be in simpliest form without decimals
please help me, to anyone here 🥹
looks like pain
prob will take a few hours to find someone ngl
but,can u do it sir?
nah i never learned trig subs 💀
Use: https://www.integral-calculator.com. It provides the full steps.
Solve definite and indefinite integrals (antiderivatives) using this free online calculator. Step-by-step solution and graphs included!
It seems to complicated to do reasonably.
thank yooooooou so much, lemme try this
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uhm sir, i a, having a difficulty using this one
can u please help me h
can u please show me how they got the limits with the new function
but it did not show how did the limits changed hehe sorry for asking to much
im just confused how they got new limits
Maybe leave out the bounds till the end and put everything back to t.
ow so ymou suggest that i use the original t=3 and t=0?
until i got back the values?
Just don't include bounds. Go through the process to solve
okay lemme try, thank you sir!
$\int \sqrt{\frac{1}{2} t^2 + 1} \dd{t}$.
stabulo
it is not giving me the correct answer :((
The calculator will almost certainly give the correct answer.
This isn't really taught in most calculus classes, but I would use an Euler Substitution for this kind of integral
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler_substitution See the first Substitution of Euler.
Euler substitution is a method for evaluating integrals of the form
where
R
{\displaystyle R}
is a rational function of
x
{\displaystyle x}
and
a
x
2
...
well hehe i tried manullay computing
So you would in this case factor out the constant sqrt(2). Then use sqrt(x^2 + 2) = x + t as your substitution
lemme try this sir
The first example in the wikipedia entry, despite looking quite different from yours is basically the same algebra
It's not the most useful exercise tbh. I use an euler substitution maybe once every 3 years.
I feel like you could learn many tricks like this form the old calculus books. I should probably look to study them at some point.
I was taught this in honors calculus. I think Stewart probably has it somewhere. He has good exercises that are only appreciated by people that already know Calculus
All the advanced tricks boil down to Euler sub, Half angle sub, Differentiation under the integral sign, or the residue theorem. The old books are not like a secret repository of black magic
Oh and just using the definition and knowledge of series
I don't like Stewart personally, I'm not even sure why anymore.
Eh, he earned his fortune, no reason to promote it for his heirs.
True. He's cashed in for sure.
i still couldnt get it :((
A fun fact is that he has the half angle substitution in his book. He says it is invented by Karl Weierstrauss with no citation. To this date all citations end up at Stewart and there is no evidence that Weierstrauss actually knew this technique.
my answer would be correct if i remove yhe one that i encircled
but it is part of the limit
can u guys help me how to get this correct, please 🥹
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I don't know about the Euler trick.
me neither 😭
The book I study from has something called Duhamel's theorem and there's no mention of it anywhere on the internet except from like PDE thing.
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I don't really want to grind out the calculation that I described using the Euler substitution, but you can see that if you use the substitution I gave you, that the integrals are the same
If you use the substitution sqrt(t^2 + 2) = t + w and do the "u" substitution correctly, you will get the integral on the left hand side which is easy but annoying to integrate, and you can see it agrees with the integral you are trying to calculate since their difference is zero
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Just want to make sure the math is correct here
So the equation is
This
And we need to find the x and y intercepts
I got -12 for x intercept and -4sqrt(3) for y intercept
Which is the opposite sign of what they have in the image
Is the image wrong or am i wrong?
Yeah they should be negative
I used symbolab to confirm
Why is the teacher uploading the answer key that is wrong
😦making me confused all the time lol
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i get why min(X,Y) < a implies x < a or y < a
but why does max(X,Y) < a imply x<a and y < a
It doesn't
sorry i corrected
But min(X,Y) > a does
yeah xD i did too 10 mins ago and im trying to clear it
This implies both X>a and Y>a
lets say X = 3
Oh yeah and what u said is correct
Wait nvm lol
min(1,3) is 1
Wait yes
2
Yes
What
min(X,Y) > a that means the smaller of X and Y is bigger than a
It only implies one of them
which means the second letter which is bigger
also has to be bigger
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
so min(X,Y) > a implies X > a and Y > a
max(X,Y) > a
i dont think this implies anything
because the bigger of the two is bigger than a but the second can be smaller
but max(X,Y) < a should
the bigger of the two is smaller than a that means the second that is smaller has to also be less than a
right right right
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I’m trying to do partial fractions set up but u can’t see where I went wrong
in line 4
it is (3c-3b)x
but you wrote (3b+c)x
and then -11=-9A
here A will be -11/-9 which is simply 11/9
but you wrote -2
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hi, how can i solve it?
$2=x +e^x$
gelmemeti
do you know lambert w function?
Not gonna work here
nop
Thats xe^x
i need this?
yeah
1=(2-x)e^(-x)?, then substitution and u=2-x ue^u=e^2
it would be possible to solve it with lambert w
solution of a=x*e^x is defined to be W(a)
mmm okay, if i don't understand "lamber w function" i'll ask again, thanks 🙂
literally i have no idea about this concept
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like why are we solving that?
tbh I have no idea whats going on in that explaination lmao
it seems the r^n equation came outta nowhere
because r is the unknown here
so ur teacher made it
whats the point of putting n in the power though?
don't I already have this equation
its not power
it means the n-nth term
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can someone pls explain how to solve this?
I would start by identifying the intersection points of x = y^2 and x = y^3
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how would u solve $4x^3-2x^2+4x-2=0$
i forgot how to do this
Hehehehaw
You can try hit and trial method
