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elfin lynx
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yeah done

simple totem
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should look like this

elfin lynx
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when I did that I got this

simple totem
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perfect

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did that answer your question of where the other 5(x^2+3)^3 went?

elfin lynx
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yes

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now I'm just trying to get

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f'(x) simplified

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5(x^2+3)^3 * 9x^2 + 3

simple totem
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can you factor anything out of (9x^2 + 3)?

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yes

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you had it

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just move the 3 to the front of the expression and you've reached your answer

elfin lynx
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3(3x+1)

simple totem
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3(3x^2+1)

elfin lynx
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what about the 15?

simple totem
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5(x^2+3)^3 * (9x^2 + 3) = 5(x^2+3)^3 * 3(3x^2 + 1) = 5 * 3 * (x^2+3)^3 * (3x^2 + 1)

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what is 5 * 3

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verbal valley
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Hii! I need with factoring, im the worst at it every since I learned it in summer school. Now I need it for geometry and im horrible at it. Please help me understand 😭

hollow sable
verbal valley
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Im trying to figure out to type it give me oneee secondd

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I cant figure out how to type exponents so ill do ^ for raised to its power

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4a^2 b^2 - 16ab^3 + 8ab^2 c

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verbal valley
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1

hot herald
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are you familiar with the basic distributive property?

verbal valley
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yeah

hot herald
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pq + pr = ?

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can you factorise that

verbal valley
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isnt it just p(r+q)?

hot herald
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yes

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usually the first thing to look for when factorising is whether all terms have a common factor

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similarly
pq + pr + ps = p(q+r+s)

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can you try identify such common factor(s) for your expression and apply the same idea

verbal valley
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yeah, theres 5 ab's

hot herald
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wdym by 5 ab's

verbal valley
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like there is five terms of ab

hot herald
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wdym by 5 terms of ab

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you're expression only has 3 terms

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where's 5 coming from

verbal valley
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oh you meant that mb

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so, ab(16 +8)?

hot herald
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no

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apply the same idea as you would for

pq + pr + ps = p(q+r+s)

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can you first identify the factor(s) common in all terms of
$$4a^2b^2 - 16ab^3 + 8ab^2c$$

glossy valveBOT
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ā„amonov

verbal valley
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yeah i think, a, b, c, and ab

hot herald
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no

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c isn't a common factor here

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just like when for asking the common factor of
pq + pr,
or
pq + pr + ps
its simply just p

verbal valley
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okay

hot herald
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a,b,ab are all common factors,
but there's no need to be repetitive,
ab already includes a and b

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you should also consider the common factor of the constant coefficients when factorising

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do 4,16,8 have a common factor?

verbal valley
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yeah, 4 and 2

hot herald
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what's the hcf/gcd

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that's just be 4 right?

verbal valley
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yeah

hot herald
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so overall do you agree that 4ab is a common factor here

verbal valley
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mhm

hot herald
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i want a clear yes/no

verbal valley
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yes

hot herald
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can you try factoring that out
similar to how you went from
pq + pr to p(q+r)
and how
pq + pr + ps = p(q+r+s)

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if needed you can consider
$$=4ab\cdot \br{\blue{\frac{4a^2b^2 - 16ab^3 + 8ab^2c}{4ab}}}$$
simplify the stuff in $\blue{\text{blue}}$; keeping the parentheses

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ā„amonov

verbal valley
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i dont even know where to start, ill just talk to my teacher on monday thanks for trying though

hot herald
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i dont even know where to start,
i've just given you an idea of that

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recall the basic property
pq + pr = p(q + r)

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do you fully understand that

verbal valley
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i guess yeah

hot herald
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wdym by you guess,

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do you have any doubts at all about it

verbal valley
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idk, i just dont understand it that well with numbers when added to the terms

hot herald
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p is just the variable representing a common factor

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and q the variable representing the expression that when multiplied to p gives pq

verbal valley
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yeah

hot herald
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the same idea is applied with more elements present

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also i forgot the ^2 on the b earlier,
the hcf/gcd is actually ab^2 here

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lets consider another example first

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would you be able to factorise
$$5ab + 25a$$

glossy valveBOT
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ā„amonov

hot herald
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identifying any common factor is fine, doesn't necessarily need to be the hcf/gcd
you can factor that out first and identify/factor more if needed

verbal valley
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okay

hot herald
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so first step,
can you identify a common factor here

verbal valley
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5

hot herald
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ok

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and applying

pq + pr = p(q + r)
can you factor 5 out of your expression

verbal valley
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yeah

hot herald
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what do you get after doing that

verbal valley
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isnt it 5(ab+5a)

hot herald
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yes, factoring out 5 gives that

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now

you can factor that out first and identify/factor more if needed
5**(ab+5a)**
does the terms in the expression in bold: (ab+5a)
have any common factors

verbal valley
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it wouldnt right?

hot herald
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no

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there is indeed a common factor there

verbal valley
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just a then

hot herald
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yes, a is a common factor

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can you factor that out

verbal valley
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yes

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a(b+5) right?

hot herald
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yes, ab + 5a = a(b+5)

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so overall you'll have
$$5ab + 25a = 5\underbrace{(ab + 5a)}_{a(b+5)} = 5a(b+5)$$

glossy valveBOT
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ā„amonov

hot herald
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does that make sense

verbal valley
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yeah

hot herald
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if you can identify $\red{5a}$ as a common factor
$$\red{5a}\blue{b} + \underbrace{25a}_{\green{5}\cdot \red{5a}}$$
you can get
$$\red{5a}(\blue{b} + \green{5})$$
immediately

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ā„amonov

hot herald
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without factorising twice

verbal valley
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alright that makes sense

hot herald
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if you're struggling to identify the expressions in the parentheses, you can consider
$$pq + pr = p\cdot \frac{pq + pr}{p} = p\br{\frac{pq}{p} + \frac{pr}{p}}$$

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ā„amonov

hot herald
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applying that here
$$5ab + 25a = 5a\br{\underbrace{\frac{5ab}{5a}}{b} + \underbrace{\frac{25a}{5a}}{5}}= 5a(b+5)$$

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ā„amonov

verbal valley
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okay

hot herald
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and the same idea can be applied to your question
$$\begin{aligned} &=4ab^2\cdot \br{\blue{\frac{4a^2b^2 - 16ab^3 + 8ab^2c}{4ab^2}}} \
&= 4ab^2\br{\blue{\frac{4a^2b^2}{4ab^2} - \frac{16ab^3}{4ab^2} +\frac{8ab^2c}{4ab^2}}} \end{aligned}
$$

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ā„amonov

verbal valley
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mhm

hot herald
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would you be able to simplify
$$\frac{4a^2b^2}{4ab^2}$$

glossy valveBOT
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ā„amonov

verbal valley
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could you do 8ab^4

hot herald
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wdym by

do 8ab^4

verbal valley
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like 8ab to the power of 4

hot herald
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wdym by "do"

verbal valley
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would it be an answer?

hot herald
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it'd be wrong

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consider
$$\frac{4a^2b^2}{4ab^2} = \frac44\cdot \frac{a^2}{a} \cdot \frac{b^2}{b^2}$$
would you be able to simplify now?

glossy valveBOT
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ā„amonov

verbal valley
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idk none of this is making sense

hot herald
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do you know the definition of exponents/raising something to integer powers
and/or exponent laws

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would you be able to express a^2 in another way

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idk none of this is making sense
which part exactly

verbal valley
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all of it

hot herald
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which part specifically

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i've gone through multiple parts

verbal valley
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i think im just gonna go to bed and give up for the night

hot herald
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and you claimed that you understood them all

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before i continued onto the next part

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celest fulcrum
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Idk if this question wroks here but its math soo

celest fulcrum
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im trying to learn c++ and I cant get my clion to work

rose rain
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wrong channel but

celest fulcrum
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if anyone knows it would be extremely helpful

rose rain
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let me answer this anyway

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executable is not selected

celest fulcrum
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thank you lol

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Its not in the target

rose rain
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wrong server too

celest fulcrum
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and the file is not in the target

rose rain
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this is a cmakelists issue

celest fulcrum
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what server should I use lol

rose rain
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figure out how to add it in

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google "how to add main.cpp" into cmakelists

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or just make a whole new project tbh

celest fulcrum
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lets try that lol

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ty ty

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which c++ type is the best if im here rn

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is 23 worth it

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@jade bluff @atomic blade

atomic blade
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Yeah it got closed

jade bluff
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yes

atomic blade
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Due to timeout

fathom arrow
atomic blade
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Did you read what I sent you earlier

fathom arrow
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so it's (2x+6) - (x^2-3x)

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that's the equation initially right?

fathom arrow
jade bluff
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@atomic blade can you help me in something

atomic blade
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Well it should be for the integrand yes

jade bluff
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when u finish this

atomic blade
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And no don't individually ask me to help you

jade bluff
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why did u ping me

fathom arrow
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i pinged you because i thought you were trying to help

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but the channel was closed

fathom arrow
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2x+6-x^2+3x

jade bluff
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yes yes

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are u trying to find x

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?

fathom arrow
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and the defined integral is going to be from 6 to -1?

atomic blade
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Why would it go backwards

jade bluff
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šŸ˜‚

atomic blade
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That makes no sense

fathom arrow
atomic blade
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@jade bluff just get your own channel

fathom arrow
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6 would be on top

atomic blade
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-1 to 6

fathom arrow
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and -1 on the bottom

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of the integral

atomic blade
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Bounds always left to right for dx

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It would NO sense to go backwards

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Otherwise it would be negative

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The area between two curves should never be negative. It measures absolute area

fathom arrow
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$\int_{-1}^{6}2x+6-x^{2}+3x$

glossy valveBOT
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cynicalcola

fathom arrow
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this is what i mean

atomic blade
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Oh then you're fine

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But that's not 6 to -1

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That's -1 to 6, which is how you're supposed to do it

fathom arrow
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hmmm

atomic blade
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Lemme show you what happens

fathom arrow
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i integrate

atomic blade
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,w integrate x^2 0 to 2

fathom arrow
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then i substitute by 6

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atomic blade
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,w integrate x^2 2 to 0

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fathom arrow
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and then subtract "from" substitution of 6 the substitution of -1

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f(6)-f(-1)

atomic blade
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Yeah that's FTC

fathom arrow
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so is that correct?

atomic blade
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If f(x) is the antiderivative of (2x+6) - (x^2 - 3x), then yes

fathom arrow
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ok

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before i find the antiderivative

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is it gonna be

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2x+6-x^2+3x

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-3x becomes +

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-x^2+5x+6

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antiderivative is

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-x^3/3 + 5/2x^2 + 6x

atomic blade
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That's def not the anti

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Oh wait

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Yeah my bad I saw the "2x + 6..." and thought that was your anti

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,w Integrate (2x+6) - (x^2 - 3x)

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How does it get to 6%?

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eager canyon
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i cant find the third root

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limber flicker
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which third root hmmCat

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shell pulsar
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instead of factoring try to recall a formula for the coefficients in terms of the roots

sharp vine
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if 5 + 2i is a root then also 5 - 2i is a root

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use this

eager canyon
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but i dont know how to find the third one

limber flicker
eager canyon
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yes i mean 5-2i

limber flicker
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nicu

sharp vine
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do (x - 5 - 2i)(x - 5 + 2i)(x - a) = f(x)

eager canyon
shell pulsar
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I'd just use that the product of the roots is - the constant coeffcient

wide sundial
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surely you can use the pentagon thing

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what is a pentagon thingšŸ˜‚

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i forgot what it's called but cant u get the other roots from the angles

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roots of unity

placid fiber
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oh sorry, I didn't something like that too exists

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I thought how can you relate a pentagon with a cubic

wide sundial
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oh i misread it as a quintic

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lol

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The roots form a shape in the complex plane

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Permutation group - group theory

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I am stuck at the part where they did a^-1 xa

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The apex of the defined angle ABC is 13 dm away from the circle center O, and BC = 12 dm. Calculate the length of the circle.

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consider triangle BOC

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ok

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then what

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BOC is a right triangle.

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What does this question mean?

rocky vale
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They want you to find a formula for the number of squares in the nth figure

silver valve
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Oh

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Alright so would it y=x+3

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Nvm

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What would the formula be

narrow granite
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take the center alone

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that's 1

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notice how each element of the sequence divides itself into 3 sides of n - 1 squares

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n is the rank of the sequence's element

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so the number of tiles would be

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Un = 1 + 3(n-1)

silver valve
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I figured it out

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It’s just y=3x-2 right

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yes

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Ty

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how would i do this

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Jigglyproff

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where s is the distance the block moves, incline angle is the angle the slope has to the horizontal plane of gravity

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A system of linear equations with integer coefficients and right-hand sides of the equations is given. how can i prove that if this system has a real solution, then it also has a rational solution?

brittle steeple
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Are you allowed linear algebra stuff?

wintry zealot
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yes

brittle steeple
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you could think about a vector space over Q

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the conditions on when the system is consistent

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and if it isn't consistent over Q, can we find there's no real solutions either

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Please don't occupy multiple help channels.

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can explain how to do

stiff musk
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what's the goal, just simplify?

primal ermine
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yea

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what are the factors of 54?

primal ermine
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27

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2

stiff musk
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yea

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and how does 27 factor

primal ermine
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3 and 9

stiff musk
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yep

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keep going

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factor 9

primal ermine
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3 and 3

stiff musk
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yep

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so 54 = 2x3x3x3

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aka 2 x 3^3

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that cube is good because it will cancel with the cube root right?

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yea

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so what do you get for the cube root of 54 if you simplify it

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you mean this 3.7797.....

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i was thinking if you want to leave it in exact form

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$$\sqrt[3]{54} = \sqrt[3]{2 \times 3^3} = 3\sqrt[3]{2}$$

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for the rest you have the right idea but it's not quite right

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$$\sqrt[3]{p^3} = p$$ is correct

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what about $$\sqrt[3]{q^5}$$

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my guess would be q cuberoot q^2

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in your screenshot you forgot the cube root on q^2

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and you forgot the little 3 on the root of 2, so what you have written is square root of 2 instead of cube root of 2

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how to prove it

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like its hard to me to understand this first set

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functions from Z set to set of functions from Y to X?

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yeah basically

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any hints to find a bijective function between them?

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yknow

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like

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Let's say we have a function in the first set f: Z -> X^Y

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Map $f\colon Z \rightarrow (Y \rightarrow X)$ to $(y, z) \mapsto f(z)(y)$

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what does it mean

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Basically, given a function $f$ from $Z$ to $X^{Y}$, take that and then create a new function from $Y \times Z$ to $X$ as per mentioned (so basically you have that for any $z\in Z$, that $f(z) : Y \to X$, so then create the function $\phi : (X^{Y})^{Z} \to X^{Y \times Z}, \phi(f) : (y,z) \mapsto (f(z))(y)$

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chartbit

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my brain processing

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That $\phi$ is what you want to be the bijection between them, if that's any clearer?

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i have a problem ith it

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why (y,z) is there

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Φ (f) is fuction that do operations on function f right?

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then A have to be equal to

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right?

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it have to be the correct answer

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well except those 0's are empty sets

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just making sure lol

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A four digit number has 7 in the thousands place and 3 in the hundredth place. This number is divisible by 3,7 and 9. How many different values the unit's place can take?

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is "face value" the exact term used by the problem statement, and was the problem statement written in english, or is this translation bullshit

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and are you sure you meant "hundredth place" and not "hundreds place"...?

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I made up the "face value"

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well, ok, "hundredths place" would make no sense

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we're talking about divisibility so the number in question is an integer

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anyway

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so your number is 73__ and it's divisible by 7 and 9

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The number can be expressed as 7000+300+10a+b, where a and b are single digit whole numbers.

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yeah, sure.

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is there a reason why you insist on writing 7000+300 and not 7300?

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Umm ok, it can be written as 7300, much simplified

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anyway, continue.

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10+a+b mod 3
10+a+b mod 9
should equal zero.

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may i stop you here again

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do you understand that divisibility by 9 implies divisibility by 3, and thus we need not consider divisibility by 3 separately?

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Oh, yes

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I tried working different numbers and found that only a+b=8 suffices

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For divisibility by 7, there are like 2 rules I know but I suppose I'm not applying any of them correctly

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if you are not explicitly instructed to apply a particular divisibility test for 7, i would simply search through all possibilities for a+b=8 manually and check which ones are divisible by 7.

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There are nine possibilities for a and b to equal the respective values

onyx glen
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yes there are.

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is that an issue?

severe basin
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No, it's not

onyx glen
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to save you the apparent finger-withering trouble of doing long division nine times,

7300+10a+b ≔ 300+10a+b ≔ 20+10a+b ≔ -1+10a+b (mod 7), so the last two digits must form a number congruent to 1 mod 7.

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and checking which of 08, 17, 26, 35, 44, 53, 62, 71, 80, 89, 98 does so is not hard at all.

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7300+10a+b ≔ 300+10a+b ≔ 20+10a+b ≔ -1+10a+b (mod 7), so the last two digits must form a number congruent to 1 mod 7.
I do not understand this ^

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which part?

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the chain of congruences, or the conclusion i draw from it?

severe basin
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the former

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the chain of congruences

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is it that you don't understand what i am saying, or why i am saying it?

severe basin
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what.

onyx glen
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7300+10a+b ≔ 300+10a+b (mod 7)

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do you understand this? Y/N

severe basin
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N

onyx glen
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the two sides of this congruence differ by 7000.

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Oh

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7000 is divisible by 7, thus remainder equals 0 so it doesn't make a difference?

onyx glen
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yes, though i would have preferred that you saw that i appeal directly to the definition of modular congruence.

severe basin
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Understood.

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likewise 300+10a+b ≔ 20+10a+b (mod 7) -- the two sides here differ by 280
and in 20+10a+b ≔ -1+10a+b (mod 7) the two sides differ by 21

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Right

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08 and 71 checks out

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I also wanna how would I incorporate divisibility by 7.

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I got, 300+10a+b-7 mod 7 = 0

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I have a strong feeling that it's wrong

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I also wanna how would I incorporate divisibility by 7.
was this not what i have been talking about at length just now...

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35 and 98 checks out
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This way is more easy, but I thought of using divisibility rule for 7 and solving two equations

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Will that not work?

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i don't know what you mean by "using divisibility by 7" exactly.

severe basin
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Divisibility by 7 :
Divide the number into groups of 3 digits (starting from right) and find the difference between sum of the numbers in odd and even places. If the difference divisible by 7, then the number is divisible by 7.

onyx glen
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eugh.

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given that your entire number is only four digits long, that's going to be more trouble than it's worth.

severe basin
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This is where I got the above thing from.

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Is that wrong?

onyx glen
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there is a difference between "wrong" and "masochistic". your method is the latter.

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you'll end up at the same thing as me one way or another anyway.

severe basin
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I couldn't get to the answer using my method

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That's where I actually needed help

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might be a consequence of your unintentional masochism.

severe basin
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Also, why are there two divisibility rules for 7?

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what's the second one you're talking about

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is it the one that involves doubling the last digit and subtracting it from the rest or something to that effect

severe basin
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Yeah, that one

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i'm not sure what angle to view your question from

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do you mean that you think there should be one and only one divisibility rule for every number, and the idea of there being two for the same number is preposterous to you,

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or do you want to know why the rest-minus-double-last-digit thing works

severe basin
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Usually for every number I learnt, there are only one

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It's not a crime to have more than two also

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No problem

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k

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the groups-of-three-digits thing is really a divisibility test for 1001 in disguise. as a consequence, it also works for checking divisibility by any factor of 1001.

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Oh

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it is correct

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Why is it 2pi/(the value) for the period of cos?

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Whats the reason it’s 2pi

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2pi is the period of normal cos(x)

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Ooooh

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2pi

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Okay, so the point moves around circle, and once it gets to the same place where it started, it has traveled 2pi radians.

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Oh ok this makes sense nowp

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great :)

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Much appreciated

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You too :)

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Y’all know how to find the integral of y/(y+1)?

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y/(y + 1) = (y + 1) -1 /(y + 1) = 1 - 1/(y+1)

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could you guys please verify this list of foundation for beginners in mathematics?

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This questions

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nobody's going to help you if you don't translate it

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Oke

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Idk immediately about 4 - probably mod 3 then smthn

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can someone remind me again how to calculate vectors

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isnt k missing?

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isnt it -3+9 and 10+2 so it goes to 6 and 12

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That should be -3 + 8, not -3 + 9.

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woops

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but i was right no?

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But yes, that's correct.

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ok then it means its A

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BD=15cm, need to find BK

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Isnt BD=BC?

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Point M is in the middle of BC

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<@&286206848099549185> feel bad doing this :/

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Do this one with vectors

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I don’t think it’s necessarily true that BD = BC

placid umbra
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i think its something with parallelogram properties

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Its 5cm by vectors

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Easy soln if one knows vectors

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Vectors do not really like me can you explain how you did it with vectors?

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Ohhhh this might help instead: Can you find any similar triangles?

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i mean BAD and BCD are the same

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Right but what about 2 different triangles with the same angles?

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@torn jolt thank you šŸ™

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and yeah i think

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in the triangle BMK

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and KAD

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angles B and M = A and D no?

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Well angle M = A and angle B = D but I think that’s what you meant

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yeah

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im bad at explaining these

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And do you know the scale factor?

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sadly not

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What’s special about M?

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but im starting to understand where you going at

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nothing much apart that its in the middle of BC

drifting hatch
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Ding ding ding

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So it’s 1/2 the length

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oh wait

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And since it’s a parallelogram, length BC = AD šŸ™‚

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Yeah but i only know BD=15

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nothing else

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in the question m is a midpoint of BC?

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yes

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alr

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i kinda want to do this with vectors

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but

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we never do them with vectors

drifting hatch
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15 = BD = BK + KD = BK + 2BK

grizzled marsh
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u tried doing some cons?

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now i get it

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and it totals to 5

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solve folowing recurencion:

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I have problem with understanding what to do with the a) and on b)... why on earth does it return 0=-2

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you were probably given an initial value. go find it

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Up there is written ā€œsolve folowing recurencion:ā€

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That’s all the data I have

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then a2, a3, ... until you find a pattern

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how do i do it tho?

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Like this?

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looks good

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like

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it just looks like an = an-1 + new result

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you're looking for a function $f(n)$ where you plug $n$ and get $a_n$

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find as many $a_3, a_4, ....$ as it takes for you to find $f(n)$

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I calculated a3 = 3/2 and a4 = 0

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so now how do i turn iit into $f(n)$

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bc i guess it would be like

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Honestly im more interested in the B) @gritty rose and the a1, a2....

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bc its confusing

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Don't do hard problems until you can do easy ones

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yeah... what would be fn in my case, its not a homework or anything, its an exam from last week and trying to understand what would be there.

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honestly i just wanna know how to do it, already know what to do in B but have problem bc of weird values, next in A) i think now i will get more points from it, mainly i wanna learn B becouse its pass or not pass.

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Hello all,
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there shouldn't be a t in your final answer anymore

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Should be x, right?

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Here we go

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Getting tired, I keep making simple mistakes, I do apologize

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not just x

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Oh, i see what I did wrong

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Let me get this uploaded, hopefully for the last time

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Changed f(x) to their respective values of x^2 and sqrtx

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&= \frac{d}{\dd x} \qty(F\qty(x²) - F\qty(\sqrt{x})) \
&= x^2' * F'(x²) - \sqrt{x}'* F'\qty(\sqrt{x})) \
&= 2x* F'(x²) - \frac{1}{2\sqrt{x}}* F'\qty(\sqrt{x})) \
&= 2xf\qty(x²) - \frac{f\qty(\sqrt{x})}{2\sqrt{x}}

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Awesome, i'll revise my work to show, well, more work

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Thank you so much!

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Hey @worthy tree, not sure if I'm allowed to ping you or not, so I do apologize.
I cleaned up my work to hopefully show everything a bit more clearly
Look like i'm missing anything, or do I look good to go?

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Getting my work

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Please tell me this looks good šŸ˜„

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I feel horrible for putting at least 6 helpers through my incompetence

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This one just got me since there were no constants

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a(x) = sqrt(x) ....

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,align
\frac{d}{\dd x} \qty( \int^{x^2}_{\sqrt{x}} f(t) \dd t )
&= \frac{d}{\dd x} \qty(F\qty(x²) - F\qty(\sqrt{x})) \
&= \qty(x^2)' * F'(x²) - \qty(\sqrt{x})'* F'\qty(\sqrt{x})) \
&= 2x* F'(x²) - \frac{1}{2\sqrt{x}}* F'\qty(\sqrt{x})) \
&= 2xf\qty(x²) - \frac{f\qty(\sqrt{x})}{2\sqrt{x}}

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Aside from that, I should be good?

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Mehdi_Moulati

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Awesome, thank you so much!

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np

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this is supposed to be partially review but i literally don’t remember any of this, can someone explain how to do #5 and #4

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,rccw

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At 4 you can simplify the radicals

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uhh

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im sorry i swear i did this last yr i js cant remember anything hdhsj

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$\frac{\sqrt{14}}{\sqrt{7}}=\sqrt{2}$

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Oogy Boogy

round gust
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Use this example

pale plank
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ohh

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so sqrt3

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Over 4

pale plank
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oh ok

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i get that

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Good

pale plank
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how would i do that w/x tho in #5

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$\sqrt{a\cdot b}=\sqrt{a}\cdot \sqrt{b}$

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Oogy Boogy

round gust
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Use this

pale plank
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3sqrt2 for 18?

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i thibk

round gust
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Yes

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Then split the sqrt(2x)

pale plank
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wdym

round gust
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With the thing i wrote

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Use jt

pale plank
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ohh

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It*

pale plank
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so sqrt9 * sqrt2x

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3sqrt2x?

round gust
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Yes

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Now split it

pale plank
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split it?

round gust
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Sqrt2x=sqrt2 * sqrtx

pale plank
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ohh

round gust
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Do the same thing for sqrt(x^5)

pale plank
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sqrtx^4 * sqrtx?

round gust
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Yes

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Good

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Now

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Can you cancel something?

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Are there any common terms on the top and bottom?

pale plank
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sqrtx?

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oh wait 3

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maybe

round gust
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Yes

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Both, right?

pale plank
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yeah

round gust
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So cancel them both

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And tell me what you gef

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Get*

pale plank
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sqrt2/x^2

round gust
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Yes

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Well done

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tysm i have a whole page on these and u made it so simple!

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You're welcome

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How do I find the 0’s

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Nm I didn’t read it’s mean theorem

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how do i factor/simplify

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Can you write it again on more clear

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nvm we're good

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$4\sin\left(x+\frac{\pi}{4}\right)=2\sec\left(x-\frac{\pi}{4}\right)$

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spetnaz

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How to solve for x?

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!status

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Cofunction

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The second image is the parabolic coordinates we're suppose to use. Could someone explain how they were derived?

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Would anyone be kind enough to explain me why these are the same. Im very bad at algebra.
dx = x - xy / (y + dy)
dx = x * dy / (y + dy)

Its origin was (x - dx) ( y + dy) = xy "Find dx"

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\begin{align*}
\dd{x} = \frac{x - xy}{y + \dd{y}} \
\dd{x} = \frac{x \dd{y}}{y + \dd{y}}
\end{align*}

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?

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active mental mutilation liker

rose rain
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ok simply treat $\dd{x}$ and $\dd{y}$ as variables and manipulate it

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active mental mutilation liker

hasty igloo
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Hmm i dont know how to manipulate it. smolsadcatconcern

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So i got this far:

(x - dx) (y + dy) = xy
x - dx = xy / (y + dy)
dx = x - xy / (y+dy)

But then they just showed ...
dx = x * dy / (y + dy)

Why is x * dy = x - xy ?

rose rain
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from x-dx = xy/(y+dy) to the next line

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that's wrong

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you made an algebraic mistake

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Hmm now im rly confused, could you help me out?

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wanton pelican
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i'm pretty sure it's dx=x/y

hasty igloo
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yes, but id like to understand the conversion
Is the math faulty?

wanton pelican
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dx=xdy/y+dy

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that's what i got

hasty igloo
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dx = (xy + xdy - yx) / (y + dy)
dx = x * dy / (y + dy)
does this make sense?

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does it work?

wanton pelican
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could u tell me the name of this type of problem?

hasty igloo
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idk what it is ( math wise)

wanton pelican
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i need to look something up

hasty igloo
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i need to write this problem in a not very readable way for a program

wanton pelican
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it's differential equations but what topic?

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dx=xdy/(y+dy)

hasty igloo
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just a curve i guess
x & y change based on how much dx or dy is added, then dy or dx has to be taken away for how much was added because x * y should always be equal to some number

wanton pelican
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this is just a hunch but im pretty sure that either x or y is equal to 0

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would you show me your process?

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yes i will send a pic, one sec

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hopefully, that helps

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You can use the vertices the get the side lengths via the Pythagorean theorem

Points:
A = (a, c)
B = (b, d)

Line AB goes from point A to point B
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Just curious what everyone else thinks. Does this sentence make clear the given trajectories are ordered and should be used in that order?

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Lost 75% of points on basically a correct answer just "incorrect" interpretation

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Is this question asking to prove that 3^n(n+1) is divisible by 3

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No, it asking to prove that the general nth term of the recursion would be 3^n(n+1)

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How would I do that?

thick minnow
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Use mathematical induction to prove it

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Assume that P(n) means that the given relation holds for n ie that un = 3^n (n+1)

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Prove the base case, ie the simplest case here it would be 1 cause Z+ starts with 1

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Then for induction hypothesis assume that P(k) is true and try to prove that P(k+1) is true

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Oh ok

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hi can somebody explain this step to me?

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the 1/2's from each parenthesis were brought out front, the 2/4 was simplified into 1/2, and the product of sums of e^(...) was expanded.

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Can anyone tell me where at 0, it isn't negative?

atomic blade
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(-2)^(4/5) is not the same as -2^(4/5)

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You plugged it in incorrectly

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Ohhh

hazy wedge
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ah whoops

swift fulcrum
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But if enough like that

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Thanks for the ping

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Why though

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atomic blade
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,w (-2)^(4/5)

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swift fulcrum
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WHERE DID YOU GET THAT EMOJI

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OMG

atomic blade
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(-2)^4 is positive

swift fulcrum
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Yee

atomic blade
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And then the 5th root of (-2)^4 must also be positive

deft tulip
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how do you do 5th root in latex again?

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i forget the syntax

swift fulcrum
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\sqrt[5]{x}

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thanks

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deft tulip
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$(-2)^\frac{4}{5} = \sqrt[5]{(-2)^4}$

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Sooshon

deft tulip
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so it's a positive number because the numerator of the exponent is even

swift fulcrum
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How would I be able to put this as a piecewise function?

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sorry, i don't understand the question

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?

swift fulcrum
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$\left(x^{2}-2\right)^{\frac{4}{5}}$

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AirToastie

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How can I change this into a piecewise function?

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It's not differentiable at -√2 and √2

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So it must have piecewise functions

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?

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it's a function and it's not differentiable, why would that be a problem?

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you would have to post what the actual question you're trying to answer is, because i am not clear

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it's a function and it's continuous at all x but yeah it's not differentiable at those x values of +-sqrt(2), but you never mentioned what exactly you are trying to answer \ find

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I'm just trying to prove that it's not differentiable at those two points

atomic blade
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You can just take the derivative

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And then show where the derivative is undefined

deft tulip
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right, if you check the derivatives from the left and from the right at those points they won't match, which means it isn't differentiable at those x

swift fulcrum
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Ohh I should be using limit properties?

rose rain
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(the idea here is that the derivative is a limit)

swift fulcrum
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Not derivative rules

rose rain
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$\derivative$

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rose rain
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well okay not quite this

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differentiability at a point is different but same concept

deft tulip
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so, do you know how to calculate the derivative of this function?

swift fulcrum
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$\lim _{x\to -\sqrt{2}^+}\left(\frac{\left(\left(x^2-2\right)^{\frac{4}{5}}+h\right)-\left(x^2-2\right)^{\frac{4}{5}}}{h}\right)$

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Like this?

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AirToastie

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swift fulcrum
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No?

deft tulip
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im sure you've learned power rule and what not for take derivatives already?

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you've learned?:

rose rain
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we don't need derivative definition its overkill

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just differentiate

deft tulip
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f(x) = x^2 and f'(x) = 2x ?

swift fulcrum
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$f\left(x\right)=\left(x^{2}-2\right)^{\frac{4}{5}}$

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AirToastie

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$f'\left(x\right)=\frac{4}{5}\left(x^{2}-2\right)^{\frac{1}{5}}\cdot\left(2x\right)$

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Oh no

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-1/5 for the exponent but yeah essentially that