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should look like this
when I did that I got this
5(x^2+3)^3 * (9x^2 + 3)
can you factor anything out of (9x^2 + 3)?
yes
you had it
just move the 3 to the front of the expression and you've reached your answer
3(3x+1)
3(3x^2+1)
what about the 15?
5(x^2+3)^3 * (9x^2 + 3) = 5(x^2+3)^3 * 3(3x^2 + 1) = 5 * 3 * (x^2+3)^3 * (3x^2 + 1)
what is 5 * 3
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Hii! I need with factoring, im the worst at it every since I learned it in summer school. Now I need it for geometry and im horrible at it. Please help me understand š

Im trying to figure out to type it give me oneee secondd
I cant figure out how to type exponents so ill do ^ for raised to its power
4a^2 b^2 - 16ab^3 + 8ab^2 c
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are you familiar with the basic distributive property?
yeah
isnt it just p(r+q)?
yes
usually the first thing to look for when factorising is whether all terms have a common factor
similarly
pq + pr + ps = p(q+r+s)
can you try identify such common factor(s) for your expression and apply the same idea
yeah, theres 5 ab's
wdym by 5 ab's
like there is five terms of ab
no
apply the same idea as you would for
pq + pr + ps = p(q+r+s)
can you first identify the factor(s) common in all terms of
$$4a^2b^2 - 16ab^3 + 8ab^2c$$
āamonov
yeah i think, a, b, c, and ab
no
c isn't a common factor here
just like when for asking the common factor of
pq + pr,
or
pq + pr + ps
its simply just p
okay
a,b,ab are all common factors,
but there's no need to be repetitive,
ab already includes a and b
you should also consider the common factor of the constant coefficients when factorising
do 4,16,8 have a common factor?
yeah, 4 and 2
yeah
so overall do you agree that 4ab is a common factor here
mhm
i want a clear yes/no
yes
can you try factoring that out
similar to how you went from
pq + pr to p(q+r)
and how
pq + pr + ps = p(q+r+s)
if needed you can consider
$$=4ab\cdot \br{\blue{\frac{4a^2b^2 - 16ab^3 + 8ab^2c}{4ab}}}$$
simplify the stuff in $\blue{\text{blue}}$; keeping the parentheses
āamonov
i dont even know where to start, ill just talk to my teacher on monday thanks for trying though
i dont even know where to start,
i've just given you an idea of that
recall the basic property
pq + pr = p(q + r)
do you fully understand that
i guess yeah
idk, i just dont understand it that well with numbers when added to the terms
p is just the variable representing a common factor
and q the variable representing the expression that when multiplied to p gives pq
yeah
the same idea is applied with more elements present
also i forgot the ^2 on the b earlier,
the hcf/gcd is actually ab^2 here
lets consider another example first
would you be able to factorise
$$5ab + 25a$$
āamonov
identifying any common factor is fine, doesn't necessarily need to be the hcf/gcd
you can factor that out first and identify/factor more if needed
okay
so first step,
can you identify a common factor here
5
yeah
what do you get after doing that
isnt it 5(ab+5a)
yes, factoring out 5 gives that
now
you can factor that out first and identify/factor more if needed
5**(ab+5a)**
does the terms in the expression in bold: (ab+5a)
have any common factors
it wouldnt right?
just a then
yes, ab + 5a = a(b+5)
so overall you'll have
$$5ab + 25a = 5\underbrace{(ab + 5a)}_{a(b+5)} = 5a(b+5)$$
āamonov
does that make sense
yeah
if you can identify $\red{5a}$ as a common factor
$$\red{5a}\blue{b} + \underbrace{25a}_{\green{5}\cdot \red{5a}}$$
you can get
$$\red{5a}(\blue{b} + \green{5})$$
immediately
āamonov
without factorising twice
alright that makes sense
if you're struggling to identify the expressions in the parentheses, you can consider
$$pq + pr = p\cdot \frac{pq + pr}{p} = p\br{\frac{pq}{p} + \frac{pr}{p}}$$
āamonov
applying that here
$$5ab + 25a = 5a\br{\underbrace{\frac{5ab}{5a}}{b} + \underbrace{\frac{25a}{5a}}{5}}= 5a(b+5)$$
āamonov
okay
and the same idea can be applied to your question
$$\begin{aligned} &=4ab^2\cdot \br{\blue{\frac{4a^2b^2 - 16ab^3 + 8ab^2c}{4ab^2}}} \
&= 4ab^2\br{\blue{\frac{4a^2b^2}{4ab^2} - \frac{16ab^3}{4ab^2} +\frac{8ab^2c}{4ab^2}}} \end{aligned}
$$
āamonov
mhm
would you be able to simplify
$$\frac{4a^2b^2}{4ab^2}$$
āamonov
could you do 8ab^4
wdym by
do 8ab^4
like 8ab to the power of 4
wdym by "do"
would it be an answer?
it'd be wrong
consider
$$\frac{4a^2b^2}{4ab^2} = \frac44\cdot \frac{a^2}{a} \cdot \frac{b^2}{b^2}$$
would you be able to simplify now?
āamonov
idk none of this is making sense
do you know the definition of exponents/raising something to integer powers
and/or exponent laws
would you be able to express a^2 in another way
idk none of this is making sense
which part exactly
all of it
i think im just gonna go to bed and give up for the night
ok, rest first
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Idk if this question wroks here but its math soo
wrong channel but
if anyone knows it would be extremely helpful
wrong server too
and the file is not in the target
this is a cmakelists issue
what server should I use lol
figure out how to add it in
google "how to add main.cpp" into cmakelists
or just make a whole new project tbh
lets try that lol
ty ty
which c++ type is the best if im here rn
is 23 worth it
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Yeah it got closed
yes
Due to timeout
Did you read what I sent you earlier
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@atomic blade can you help me in something
Well it should be for the integrand yes
when u finish this
Get your own channel
And no don't individually ask me to help you
why did u ping me
and the defined integral is going to be from 6 to -1?
Why would it go backwards
š
That makes no sense
@jade bluff just get your own channel
6 would be on top
-1 to 6
Bounds always left to right for dx
It would NO sense to go backwards
Otherwise it would be negative
The area between two curves should never be negative. It measures absolute area
$\int_{-1}^{6}2x+6-x^{2}+3x$
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this is what i mean
Oh then you're fine
But that's not 6 to -1
That's -1 to 6, which is how you're supposed to do it
hmmm
Lemme show you what happens
i integrate
,w integrate x^2 0 to 2
then i substitute by 6
,w integrate x^2 2 to 0
Yeah that's FTC
so is that correct?
If f(x) is the antiderivative of (2x+6) - (x^2 - 3x), then yes
ok
before i find the antiderivative
is it gonna be
2x+6-x^2+3x
-3x becomes +
-x^2+5x+6
antiderivative is
-x^3/3 + 5/2x^2 + 6x
That's def not the anti
Oh wait
Yeah my bad I saw the "2x + 6..." and thought that was your anti
,w Integrate (2x+6) - (x^2 - 3x)
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How does it get to 6%?
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i cant find the third root
which third root 
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instead of factoring try to recall a formula for the coefficients in terms of the roots
so i know two roots:
5+2i and 2-2i
but i dont know how to find the third one
typo?
yes i mean 5-2i
nicu
do (x - 5 - 2i)(x - 5 + 2i)(x - a) = f(x)
OH thank you!!!
I'd just use that the product of the roots is - the constant coeffcient
surely you can use the pentagon thing
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what is a pentagon thingš
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the angle thing
i forgot what it's called but cant u get the other roots from the angles
roots of unity
oh sorry, I didn't something like that too exists
I thought how can you relate a pentagon with a cubic
Oh right yeah
The roots form a shape in the complex plane
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Permutation group - group theory
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Also is the solution correct?
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The apex of the defined angle ABC is 13 dm away from the circle center O, and BC = 12 dm. Calculate the length of the circle.
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consider triangle BOC
BOC is a right triangle.
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What does this question mean?
They want you to find a formula for the number of squares in the nth figure
take the center alone
that's 1
notice how each element of the sequence divides itself into 3 sides of n - 1 squares
n is the rank of the sequence's element
so the number of tiles would be
Un = 1 + 3(n-1)
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how would i do this
does this formula sound familiar?:\
$\Delta v^2=2\cdot \sin({incline ; angle}) \cdot s$
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where s is the distance the block moves, incline angle is the angle the slope has to the horizontal plane of gravity
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A system of linear equations with integer coefficients and right-hand sides of the equations is given. how can i prove that if this system has a real solution, then it also has a rational solution?
Are you allowed linear algebra stuff?
yes
you could think about a vector space over Q
the conditions on when the system is consistent
and if it isn't consistent over Q, can we find there's no real solutions either
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can explain how to do
what's the goal, just simplify?
yea
what are the factors of 54?
3 and 9
3 and 3
yep
so 54 = 2x3x3x3
aka 2 x 3^3
that cube is good because it will cancel with the cube root right?
yea
so what do you get for the cube root of 54 if you simplify it
i was thinking if you want to leave it in exact form
$$\sqrt[3]{54} = \sqrt[3]{2 \times 3^3} = 3\sqrt[3]{2}$$
Bungo
for the rest you have the right idea but it's not quite right
$$\sqrt[3]{p^3} = p$$ is correct
Bungo
what about $$\sqrt[3]{q^5}$$
Bungo
my guess would be q cuberoot q^2
yes
in your screenshot you forgot the cube root on q^2
and you forgot the little 3 on the root of 2, so what you have written is square root of 2 instead of cube root of 2
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how to prove it
like its hard to me to understand this first set
functions from Z set to set of functions from Y to X?
yeah basically
any hints to find a bijective function between them?
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I'll use some weird notation, but it's so things are clear
yknow
like
anyway
Let's say we have a function in the first set f: Z -> X^Y
okay wait a second lemme figure out how to say things without being wrong
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Map $f\colon Z \rightarrow (Y \rightarrow X)$ to $(y, z) \mapsto f(z)(y)$
M8732
what does it mean
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Basically, given a function $f$ from $Z$ to $X^{Y}$, take that and then create a new function from $Y \times Z$ to $X$ as per mentioned (so basically you have that for any $z\in Z$, that $f(z) : Y \to X$, so then create the function $\phi : (X^{Y})^{Z} \to X^{Y \times Z}, \phi(f) : (y,z) \mapsto (f(z))(y)$
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That $\phi$ is what you want to be the bijection between them, if that's any clearer?
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Basically you want to get a function from $Y \times Z$ to $X$, given a function from $Z$ to $X^{Y}$
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Yea it takes a given function but does as per above, if you can kinda see it?
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then A have to be equal to
{{{0}}}
right?
wait
no
A = {{0}, {{0}}}
it have to be the correct answer
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A four digit number has 7 in the thousands place and 3 in the hundredth place. This number is divisible by 3,7 and 9. How many different values the unit's place can take?
is "face value" the exact term used by the problem statement, and was the problem statement written in english, or is this translation bullshit
and are you sure you meant "hundredth place" and not "hundreds place"...?
I made up the "face value"
well, ok, "hundredths place" would make no sense
we're talking about divisibility so the number in question is an integer
anyway
so your number is 73__ and it's divisible by 7 and 9
The number can be expressed as 7000+300+10a+b, where a and b are single digit whole numbers.
Umm ok, it can be written as 7300, much simplified
anyway, continue.
10+a+b mod 3
10+a+b mod 9
should equal zero.
may i stop you here again
do you understand that divisibility by 9 implies divisibility by 3, and thus we need not consider divisibility by 3 separately?
Oh, yes
I tried working different numbers and found that only a+b=8 suffices
For divisibility by 7, there are like 2 rules I know but I suppose I'm not applying any of them correctly
if you are not explicitly instructed to apply a particular divisibility test for 7, i would simply search through all possibilities for a+b=8 manually and check which ones are divisible by 7.
There are nine possibilities for a and b to equal the respective values
No, it's not
to save you the apparent finger-withering trouble of doing long division nine times,
7300+10a+b ā” 300+10a+b ā” 20+10a+b ā” -1+10a+b (mod 7), so the last two digits must form a number congruent to 1 mod 7.
and checking which of 08, 17, 26, 35, 44, 53, 62, 71, 80, 89, 98 does so is not hard at all.
7300+10a+b ā” 300+10a+b ā” 20+10a+b ā” -1+10a+b (mod 7), so the last two digits must form a number congruent to 1 mod 7.
I do not understand this ^
is it that you don't understand what i am saying, or why i am saying it?
what.
N
the two sides of this congruence differ by 7000.
Oh
7000 is divisible by 7, thus remainder equals 0 so it doesn't make a difference?
yes, though i would have preferred that you saw that i appeal directly to the definition of modular congruence.
Understood.
likewise 300+10a+b ā” 20+10a+b (mod 7) -- the two sides here differ by 280
and in 20+10a+b ā” -1+10a+b (mod 7) the two sides differ by 21
Right
08 and 71 checks out
I also wanna how would I incorporate divisibility by 7.
I got, 300+10a+b-7 mod 7 = 0
I have a strong feeling that it's wrong
I also wanna how would I incorporate divisibility by 7.
was this not what i have been talking about at length just now...
35 and 98 checks out
no
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This way is more easy, but I thought of using divisibility rule for 7 and solving two equations
Will that not work?
i don't know what you mean by "using divisibility by 7" exactly.
Divisibility by 7 :
Divide the number into groups of 3 digits (starting from right) and find the difference between sum of the numbers in odd and even places. If the difference divisible by 7, then the number is divisible by 7.
eugh.
given that your entire number is only four digits long, that's going to be more trouble than it's worth.
...
This is where I got the above thing from.

Is that wrong?
there is a difference between "wrong" and "masochistic". your method is the latter.
you'll end up at the same thing as me one way or another anyway.
might be a consequence of your unintentional masochism.
what's the second one you're talking about
is it the one that involves doubling the last digit and subtracting it from the rest or something to that effect
Yeah, that one
i'm not sure what angle to view your question from
do you mean that you think there should be one and only one divisibility rule for every number, and the idea of there being two for the same number is preposterous to you,
or do you want to know why the rest-minus-double-last-digit thing works
Usually for every number I learnt, there are only one
It's not a crime to have more than two also
No problem
k
the groups-of-three-digits thing is really a divisibility test for 1001 in disguise. as a consequence, it also works for checking divisibility by any factor of 1001.
Oh
Is this right or wrong?
it is correct
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Why is it 2pi/(the value) for the period of cos?
Whats the reason itās 2pi
2pi is the period of normal cos(x)
Do you know unit circle?
Ooooh
Yes
How many radians is a full circle?
2pi
Okay, so the point moves around circle, and once it gets to the same place where it started, it has traveled 2pi radians.
Oh ok this makes sense nowp
great :)
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Yāall know how to find the integral of y/(y+1)?
y/(y + 1) = (y + 1) -1 /(y + 1) = 1 - 1/(y+1)
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could you guys please verify this list of foundation for beginners in mathematics?
- Discrete Mathematics
- Mathematical Proofs
- Pre-Algebra
- College Algebra
- Algebra & Trigonometry
- Calculus
Linear algebra is a must
- probability and statistics
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This questions
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1-Find the positive integer quads that can be (a,b,c,d)
2-Find the x,y integer pairs
3-Find all the (n,k1,k2,...,kn) values āāthat make it
4-Write the solution path for all (a,b) integers.
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1-Find the positive integer quads that can be (a,b,c,d)
2-Find the x,y integer pairs
3-Find all the (n,k1,k2,...,kn) values āāthat make it
4-Write the solution path for all (a,b) integers.
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- Try to factorise parts of the LHS
- The LHS 'grows' faster than the RHS - assuming WLOG x>=y helps
- The AM-HM inequality is probably enough
Idk immediately about 4 - probably mod 3 then smthn
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can someone remind me again how to calculate vectors
it asks what is a+b lenght
isnt k missing?
isnt it -3+9 and 10+2 so it goes to 6 and 12
and then its sqrt of (6^2 + 12^2)?
That should be -3 + 8, not -3 + 9.
But yes, that's correct.
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BD=15cm, need to find BK
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<@&286206848099549185> feel bad doing this :/
Do this one with vectors
I donāt think itās necessarily true that BD = BC
I dont think this is supposed to be done with vectors
i think its something with parallelogram properties
i mean yeah ur right it doesnt even help me that bd=bc
Vectors do not really like me can you explain how you did it with vectors?
Ohhhh this might help instead: Can you find any similar triangles?
i mean BAD and BCD are the same
Right but what about 2 different triangles with the same angles?
@torn jolt thank you š
and yeah i think
in the triangle BMK
and KAD
angles B and M = A and D no?
Well angle M = A and angle B = D but I think thatās what you meant
And do you know the scale factor?
sadly not
Whatās special about M?
but im starting to understand where you going at
nothing much apart that its in the middle of BC
oh wait
And since itās a parallelogram, length BC = AD š
in the question m is a midpoint of BC?
yes
alr
15 = BD = BK + KD = BK + 2BK
u tried doing some cons?
no?
oh yeah
now i get it
and it totals to 5
like with vectors
Thank you very much for the help
i appreciate it 
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solve folowing recurencion:
I have problem with understanding what to do with the a) and on b)... why on earth does it return 0=-2
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Up there is written āsolve folowing recurencion:ā
Thatās all the data I have
good so you know a0 = 0. use this to find a1
then a2, a3, ... until you find a pattern
plug n=1 in here
looks good
so is that all or do i go further?
like
it just looks like an = an-1 + new result
you're looking for a function $f(n)$ where you plug $n$ and get $a_n$
riemann
find as many $a_3, a_4, ....$ as it takes for you to find $f(n)$
riemann
Meph
bc i guess it would be like
Honestly im more interested in the B) @gritty rose and the a1, a2....
bc its confusing
Don't do hard problems until you can do easy ones
yeah... what would be fn in my case, its not a homework or anything, its an exam from last week and trying to understand what would be there.
honestly i just wanna know how to do it, already know what to do in B but have problem bc of weird values, next in A) i think now i will get more points from it, mainly i wanna learn B becouse its pass or not pass.
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Hello all,
Was getting help in another channel and was told to post here when I finished my work for confirmation
Basically, I was asked to evaluate this
My work came out to this
Going to assume I got it right this time around, just wanted some confirmation to see if I was correct or not
there shouldn't be a t in your final answer anymore
Should be x, right?
Caught my eye right after I posted it, my bad
Here we go
Please, tell me this is right now
Getting tired, I keep making simple mistakes, I do apologize
not just x
Oh, i see what I did wrong
Let me get this uploaded, hopefully for the last time
Changed f(x) to their respective values of x^2 and sqrtx
Alright, so that's right where it needs to be now?
Going to assume i'm good to go based on the checkmarks
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\frac{d}{\dd x} \qty( \int^{x^2}_{\sqrt{x}} f(t) \dd t )'
&= \frac{d}{\dd x} \qty(F\qty(x²) - F\qty(\sqrt{x})) \
&= x^2' * F'(x²) - \sqrt{x}'* F'\qty(\sqrt{x})) \
&= 2x* F'(x²) - \frac{1}{2\sqrt{x}}* F'\qty(\sqrt{x})) \
&= 2xf\qty(x²) - \frac{f\qty(\sqrt{x})}{2\sqrt{x}}
Mehdi_Moulati
anytime
Hey @worthy tree, not sure if I'm allowed to ping you or not, so I do apologize.
I cleaned up my work to hopefully show everything a bit more clearly
Look like i'm missing anything, or do I look good to go?
Getting my work
np bro
Please tell me this looks good š
I feel horrible for putting at least 6 helpers through my incompetence
This one just got me since there were no constants
i guess the second line is unnecessary
a(x) = sqrt(x) ....
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\frac{d}{\dd x} \qty( \int^{x^2}_{\sqrt{x}} f(t) \dd t )
&= \frac{d}{\dd x} \qty(F\qty(x²) - F\qty(\sqrt{x})) \
&= \qty(x^2)' * F'(x²) - \qty(\sqrt{x})'* F'\qty(\sqrt{x})) \
&= 2x* F'(x²) - \frac{1}{2\sqrt{x}}* F'\qty(\sqrt{x})) \
&= 2xf\qty(x²) - \frac{f\qty(\sqrt{x})}{2\sqrt{x}}
Aside from that, I should be good?
Mehdi_Moulati
yes
Awesome, thank you so much!
np
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this is supposed to be partially review but i literally donāt remember any of this, can someone explain how to do #5 and #4
,rccw
At 4 you can simplify the radicals
$\frac{\sqrt{14}}{\sqrt{7}}=\sqrt{2}$
Oogy Boogy
Use this example
Over 4
Good
how would i do that w/x tho in #5
$\sqrt{a\cdot b}=\sqrt{a}\cdot \sqrt{b}$
Oogy Boogy
Use this
wdym
ohh
It*
split it?
Sqrt2x=sqrt2 * sqrtx
ohh
Do the same thing for sqrt(x^5)
sqrtx^4 * sqrtx?
Yes
Good
Now
Can you cancel something?
Are there any common terms on the top and bottom?
yeah
sqrt2/x^2
tysm i have a whole page on these and u made it so simple!
You're welcome
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how do i factor/simplify
Can you write it again on more clear
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$4\sin\left(x+\frac{\pi}{4}\right)=2\sec\left(x-\frac{\pi}{4}\right)$
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How to solve for x?
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The second image is the parabolic coordinates we're suppose to use. Could someone explain how they were derived?
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Would anyone be kind enough to explain me why these are the same. Im very bad at algebra.
dx = x - xy / (y + dy)
dx = x * dy / (y + dy)
Its origin was (x - dx) ( y + dy) = xy "Find dx"
\begin{align*}
\dd{x} = \frac{x - xy}{y + \dd{y}} \
\dd{x} = \frac{x \dd{y}}{y + \dd{y}}
\end{align*}
?
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ok simply treat $\dd{x}$ and $\dd{y}$ as variables and manipulate it
active mental mutilation liker
Hmm i dont know how to manipulate it. 
So i got this far:
(x - dx) (y + dy) = xy
x - dx = xy / (y + dy)
dx = x - xy / (y+dy)
But then they just showed ...
dx = x * dy / (y + dy)
Why is x * dy = x - xy ?
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i'm pretty sure it's dx=x/y
yes, but id like to understand the conversion
Is the math faulty?
dx = (xy + xdy - yx) / (y + dy)
dx = x * dy / (y + dy)
does this make sense?
does it work?
could u tell me the name of this type of problem?
idk what it is ( math wise)
i need to look something up
i need to write this problem in a not very readable way for a program
just a curve i guess
x & y change based on how much dx or dy is added, then dy or dx has to be taken away for how much was added because x * y should always be equal to some number
this is just a hunch but im pretty sure that either x or y is equal to 0
thx man! 

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You can use the vertices the get the side lengths via the Pythagorean theorem
Points:
A = (a, c)
B = (b, d)
Line AB goes from point A to point B
len(AB) = sqrt((a-b)^2 + (c-d)^2)
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Just curious what everyone else thinks. Does this sentence make clear the given trajectories are ordered and should be used in that order?
Lost 75% of points on basically a correct answer just "incorrect" interpretation
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Is this question asking to prove that 3^n(n+1) is divisible by 3
No, it asking to prove that the general nth term of the recursion would be 3^n(n+1)
How would I do that?
Use mathematical induction to prove it
Assume that P(n) means that the given relation holds for n ie that un = 3^n (n+1)
Prove the base case, ie the simplest case here it would be 1 cause Z+ starts with 1
Then for induction hypothesis assume that P(k) is true and try to prove that P(k+1) is true
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hi can somebody explain this step to me?
the 1/2's from each parenthesis were brought out front, the 2/4 was simplified into 1/2, and the product of sums of e^(...) was expanded.
"sums of e^(...) was expanded." how does this work?
lol
nevermind
slow day
thanks
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Can anyone tell me where at 0, it isn't negative?
(-2)^(4/5) is not the same as -2^(4/5)
why* it isn't negative? not sure i understand the Q
Yeah, why it isn't negative
Because this
(-2)^(4/5) is not the same as -2^(4/5)
You plugged it in incorrectly
Ohhh
ah whoops
But if enough like that
Thanks for the ping
Why though

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,w (-2)^(4/5)
(-2)^4 is positive
Yee
And then the 5th root of (-2)^4 must also be positive
\sqrt[5]{x}
thanks
Ahhh I see, thanks
$(-2)^\frac{4}{5} = \sqrt[5]{(-2)^4}$
Sooshon
so it's a positive number because the numerator of the exponent is even
How would I be able to put this as a piecewise function?
$\left(x^{2}-2\right)^{\frac{4}{5}}$
AirToastie
How can I change this into a piecewise function?
It's not differentiable at -ā2 and ā2
So it must have piecewise functions
?
it's a function and it's not differentiable, why would that be a problem?
you would have to post what the actual question you're trying to answer is, because i am not clear
it's a function and it's continuous at all x but yeah it's not differentiable at those x values of +-sqrt(2), but you never mentioned what exactly you are trying to answer \ find
right, if you check the derivatives from the left and from the right at those points they won't match, which means it isn't differentiable at those x
Ohh I should be using limit properties?
(the idea here is that the derivative is a limit)
Not derivative rules
$\derivative$
DerpZ
so, do you know how to calculate the derivative of this function?
$\lim _{x\to -\sqrt{2}^+}\left(\frac{\left(\left(x^2-2\right)^{\frac{4}{5}}+h\right)-\left(x^2-2\right)^{\frac{4}{5}}}{h}\right)$
Like this?
AirToastie
ok umm why we using the definition of the derivative here
No?
im sure you've learned power rule and what not for take derivatives already?
you've learned?:
f(x) = x^2 and f'(x) = 2x ?
$f\left(x\right)=\left(x^{2}-2\right)^{\frac{4}{5}}$
AirToastie
$f'\left(x\right)=\frac{4}{5}\left(x^{2}-2\right)^{\frac{1}{5}}\cdot\left(2x\right)$
Oh no
-1/5 for the exponent but yeah essentially that


