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atomic blade
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(It also helps knowing when ln(x) = 0)

hot herald
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doesn't hurt to also consider the domain

proven heron
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Okay then

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Lemme try

hot herald
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try not to overthink again

proven heron
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lmao

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okay

hot herald
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and in case it wasn't clear,
when I mentioned do not try to find for the inverse,
you shouldn't be attempting to isolate x in the equation 2 = 2x + ln(x) either

atomic blade
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If you're confused on what inspection is:

||The thing is this: it's really convenient that you have a term 2x, and you have to make it equal to 2. It would be very convenient if we let x = 1 and hope that ln(1) = 0.

Which it does. This is what we mean by "inspection". The question's rigged such that you can make that correlation.||

proven heron
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@random mica ty for the explanation

random mica
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found it
is 1
Am I right
because if we put 1
in the original function
we see
2x + lnx
2+ ln 1
2 +0
=2
and as I said

proven heron
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and also ty @atomic blade and @hot herald

random mica
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what is ty

proven heron
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I think I have found out the anwser

atomic blade
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"Thank you"

proven heron
random mica
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ok

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so how to write the answer

hot herald
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Ty is a name

random mica
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in the answering page

proven heron
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Hmm

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I think that

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I will let f^-1(2) be a random variable

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such as "a"

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and then

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I will have f(f^-1(2)) = a

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which leads to 2 = 2a + ln a

hot herald
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no

proven heron
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and a = 1

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what

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why

hot herald
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f(f^-1(2)) is just 2

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a isn't 2

random mica
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what ????

hot herald
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I will let f^-1(2) be a random variable
such as "a"
I will have f(f^-1(2)) = a
you're saying a is both f^-1(2) and f(f^-1(2))

proven heron
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wait

hot herald
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you should have
f(f^-1(2)) = f(a)

proven heron
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f(f^-1(2)) = f(a)

random mica
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the rule

proven heron
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yeah

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and f(f^-1(2)) = 2

random mica
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f o g (x) = g o f (x) = x

proven heron
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true

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but the answer for f^-1(2) is 1, right?

hot herald
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yes

proven heron
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okay then

random mica
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so how do we write

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the answer

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in the

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aswering page

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answering *

proven heron
hot herald
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[insert work]
f^-1(2) = 1

proven heron
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here's my draft

hot herald
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ideally you'd write f(a) instead of fa

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seems sufficient

proven heron
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oh

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yeah

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okay

proven heron
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how'd u think? @random mica
I think it's possible to write like this in the answering page

random mica
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let me

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try

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in my wok sheet

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and then i will

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return

proven heron
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okay

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proven heron
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@random mica dm me privately, I wanna see your sheet, now I gotta do the other problems hehe

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viral cargo
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I have a feeling I have to show the van Hall theorem here. But I have no clue how to approach this question.

fast peak
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well (a) is the easy direction of that theorem. if there is a matching that means every node in U is connected to a different note in N(U). surely then there can't be less nodes in N(U) than in U

viral cargo
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I can see that principal yes, but how would I incorporate the Van Hall theorom in a proof like that?

fast peak
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ok what statement of halls theorem do you have

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but well I would assume that if anything you have to use your version of hall in some later task

viral cargo
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We didn't get any statement or anything. And our lecturer works without a book, he just gives exercises for us to figure out and chooses a few the following lecture that he will explain.

fast peak
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how are you supposed to use a theorem without knowing what it says

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He gave that as a hint. He likes us finding out things via the internet, so we can create our own material to use for studying for the exams. So all exercises together will form our syllabus for the exam.

fast peak
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well that's a bit weird

viral cargo
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Yes, lots of people struggle with this class...

fast peak
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a very classic statement of halls theorem is: a bipartite graph like this has a matching if and only if for all U, |U| <= |N(U)|

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and like you notice, a is just the direction =>

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which is easy

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the hard part of the theorem is the other direction

viral cargo
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Ah, okay. I see

fast peak
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the setup of the question sounds to me more like they want you to use max-flow-min-cut somewhere

viral cargo
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I have only ever used that in actual given graphs, never with proofing.

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But looking at question b, you might be right.

b) proof that every matching M in G gives a motivation for an s-t flow in D under c of value |M|.

fast peak
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max-flow-min-cut and halls theorem are equivalent

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you can prove each one using the other

viral cargo
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Ah cool!

fast peak
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here is a list of a couple theorems actually like this

viral cargo
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Awesome! Thank you so much. I am gonna give it another go with this new knowledge! If I get stuck again, I will open a new channel 🙂

fast peak
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👍

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silk mirage
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solve the equation graphically

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silk mirage
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task e and f need help with how to make the left side = 0

hot herald
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apply the same operation to both sides of the equation

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what could you do to 8x that would result in 0
( apart from multiplying by 0)

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and do that to both sides of the equation

silk mirage
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so -8?

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and -x?

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the answer is supposed to be 4

hot herald
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so -8?
and -x
no

silk mirage
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alright

hot herald
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8x - 8 - x isn't 0

silk mirage
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8x/8x?

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thats 1

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so

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how do you make it 0

hot herald
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don't overthink this

silk mirage
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i am

hot herald
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lets use a simpler example,
k = 5,
how would get 0 on the right side of the equation

pearl ocean
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Antar at du skal løse det grafisk. Bruk geogebra til det.
Hvis det er for hånd, bruk kvadratsetninger.

hot herald
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what could you do to 5 that would result in 0
( apart from multiplying by 0)

silk mirage
pearl ocean
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@hot herald is it okay for you that I take over?

hot herald
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sure if they're more comfortable and more likely to understand in their native language. try to avoid feeding the answer though if possible

silk mirage
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pearl ocean
pearl ocean
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F.eks. f(x)=2x+1

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Du har y-verdier (y-akse) på venstre side, og x-verdier (x-akse) på høyre side.

silk mirage
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ja har forstått det

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men ikke det første du sa

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vent du mener at på venstre side av = er y akse og høyre x-akse?

pearl ocean
silk mirage
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åja okok forstått

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men er det meningen at jeg skal klare å forstå det i hode med hvordan d blir det samme?

pearl ocean
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Du har variabler, de er de som endrer verdien av funksjonen.

silk mirage
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skjønner

pearl ocean
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Så du har bare y på den ene siden, og x på den andre siden.

pearl ocean
silk mirage
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hva mener du nå

pearl ocean
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Nei, jeg sa det forvirrende.

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Bare ha verdier på den ene siden.

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Og den andre siden ingenting.

silk mirage
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jeg misforstår

pearl ocean
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Samme algoritme.

silk mirage
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f(x)=x^2+16?

pearl ocean
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Hva er likningen i eksempel 26?

silk mirage
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10x+2x^2=0

pearl ocean
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Hva har du på høyre siden?

silk mirage
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0

pearl ocean
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Samme gjør du med e og f.

silk mirage
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what

pearl ocean
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$x^2 +16=8x$ , gjør det som du sa, høyre side er 0.

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pearl ocean
silk mirage
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men på eksempel 26 starter likningen med 0 på høyre side så hvordan gjør jeg det når e har 8x på høyre side

pearl ocean
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Er du kjent med likninger?

silk mirage
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kan ikke si meg godt kjent

pearl ocean
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Det er som en skålvekt.

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Begge sidene skal være like.

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Du tar en mengde av noe fra den ene siden, som du samtidig gjør på den andre siden.

silk mirage
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ja men kan jeg gjøre -8 -x?

pearl ocean
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8x er en, ikke to.

silk mirage
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-8x?

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så da blir det x+8=0

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?

pearl ocean
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Du tar 8x fra høyre siden. Det betyr at du også skal ta 8x fra venstre siden.

silk mirage
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ja var det ikke det jeg gjorde?

pearl ocean
silk mirage
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jeg er helt dø i hodet

pearl ocean
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Skålvekt. Det er en vekt som måler forholdet mellom to plattformer.

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Når du har 8 epler og 2 appelsiner på venstre plattform, og 9 epler og 5 appelsiner på høyre plattform.

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Du skal ta 2 appelsiner fra venstre plattform, hva er det du må gjøre for at plattformene som fortsatt i balanse?

silk mirage
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tar 2 fra høyre

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men blir der 16-6x=0 på e da?

pearl ocean
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$x^2+16=8x$

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pearl ocean
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Du tar 8x vekk fra høyre siden. Hva er du skal ha på venstre siden?

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Det skal være balanse.

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Det som skjer på side a skjer det samme på side b

silk mirage
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ja

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har skjønt det

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bare vet ikke helt hva svaret skal bli

pearl ocean
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Skjønner du hva jeg prøver å få deg til å gjøre?

silk mirage
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vell ja jeg bare skjønner ikke hvordan du skal regne det ut

pearl ocean
silk mirage
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går det ann å skrive x^2+16-8x=0

pearl ocean
silk mirage
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åja det er det jeg har prøvd å gjøre hele tiden bare at jeg har prøvd å ta fra tallene som allerede er der 💀

pearl ocean
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Når det er gange mellom noe, så er de sammen som en.

silk mirage
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skjønner

pearl ocean
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8x er en, 8+x er to.

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Nå gjør du bare som løsningsforslaget, og du får svaret.

silk mirage
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tusen takk

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unnskyld for at jeg var helt idiot

pearl ocean
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Null stress.

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stuck fiber
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Is there any way to work out cos^2(7pi/3) without a calculator

stuck fiber
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I know that cos(7pi/3) is 1/2

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but how do I get cos^2

hot herald
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cos^2(7pi/3) is convenient notation to represent
(cos(7pi/3))^2

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knowing the value of cos(7pi/3) = 1/2
square that and you'll have what you need

hot wadi
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7pi/3 = 2pi + pi/3

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The 2pi can be discarded as it brings you back to first quadrant

hot herald
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they've already done that

hot wadi
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So it's ultimately cos(pi/3) which u know already

stuck fiber
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Cool thank you so much guys!!

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stuck fiber
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I have a follow up question

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What about cos^2(4pi/6)

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because (4pi/6) is -1/2

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but does the minus cancel after being squared?

short siren
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Yep

hot herald
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*cos(4pi/6) is -1/2

stuck fiber
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so its always going to be a + no matter what quadrant?

hot herald
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missing the cos

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4pi/6 itself is not -1/2

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stuck fiber
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okok cool

hot herald
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same idea as earlier

stuck fiber
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thanks again guys!

hot herald
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square (-1/2) and you'll have what you need

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Small question: What does the "a arrow to a" mean?

My notation would be h=>0 and then a+h and b-h as integral borders

short siren
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That's a peculiar way to write limits

novel sparrow
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I got it from wikipedia

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short siren
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Oooo

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short siren
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And the upper one is b from the left

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Yeah

novel sparrow
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ahh thank you

Am I deducing correctly that this would be the same as h=>0 and then a+h and b-h as integral borders?

topaz valley
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obviously you dont know if f is defined outside of the interval (a, b)

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so you cant even take the limits from the other sides

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no

novel sparrow
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fk

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hmmm

topaz valley
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unless you specify h to be positive

novel sparrow
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oh yeah thats what I meant

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wait a second

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topaz valley
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yes that works

novel sparrow
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okay okay

topaz valley
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although

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terminals look sus

novel sparrow
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terminals?

topaz valley
novel sparrow
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ahh yeah I know what you mean

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these examples are unrelated to each other and were used in a situation where only one border is critical

topaz valley
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no as in

topaz valley
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novel sparrow
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but wait a second

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lets say we are integrating over the intervall (a,b) which means both borders are critical

= we have to divide the integral in 2 seperate intervals

the first one is from a+h to c

the second one is from c to b-h

h being lim h=>0+

is that correct?

topaz valley
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yeah sure

novel sparrow
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(and c being somewhere between a and b)

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okay okay

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but the 2 examples you posted would be in used in a case where only one border is critical right?

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topaz valley
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yeah

novel sparrow
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okay

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I am just asking to make sure I understood correctly, its a bit confusing tbh

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but thanks for clearing it up

topaz valley
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its just weird behaviour => take limit

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west spire
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Does anyone know why the step function has t-1 and what to do when the a value which is 2 does not match with 3

west spire
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And why is there not a sin

gritty rose
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Yea that all just looks wrong unless U(t) relates to sin

west spire
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Yea idek, I understand every other example shown but this example just seems weird

west spire
gritty rose
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Any definition of U

west spire
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There is one given saying, Ua(t) = U(t-a)

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That looks like a property and not the definition. Screenshot the definition.

west spire
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I can’t find a definition definition, my notes just has plenty of examples

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Does anyone know why cos does not become (s/(s^2+9pi^2))

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Because you evaluate it on one point

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$\cos(t) \delta(t-3\pi) = \cos(3\pi) \delta(t-3\pi)$

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What does it mean to evaluate on a single point. I am trying to connect this to step functions and this does not make sense

gritty rose
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Write out the integral formula for the Laplace transform of the product cos and delta

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Ohhh i didn’t see that theorem thank you

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I am actually going insane with this course but truly appreciate your help

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sin sin x θ . find the value of θ

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?

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what?

rugged raven
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ye thats the question in my exams and I cant figure it out

light sonnet
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You're taking an exam?

rugged raven
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its already done

forest widget
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you don't even have an equation thinkies

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missing symbols?

torn jolt
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Theta isn't even in the expression that we are meant to magically find for you KEK

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Or u somehow have $\sin(\sin(x\theta))$

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♡LexQa♡

torn jolt
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Which is wild

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f

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sin (θ sin (x))

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to repost the original question for everybody else's convenience

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Oh I didn't link it properly

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sorry

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How do you work out the probability of A and P

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B

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i got P(A) = 31/216

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Because u do 25/216 + 5/216 + 1/216

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e.g for 25/216 you have 1/6 * 5/6 * 5/6

forest widget
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pretty sure you're severely undercounting

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why is the odds of rolling at least one 6 going below 1/6 when you have more dice thinkies

mild veldt
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What

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U roll 3 dice

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and whats the porbability i get at least one six?

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So the probability i get one 6 from rolling 3 dice

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is 1/6 * 5/6 * 5/6

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the probability i get 2 6 from rolling 3 dice is

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1/6 * 1/6 * 5/6

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and 3 6's from 3 dice is

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1/6 * 1/6 * 1/6

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and u add the overall probabilities up

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@forest widget

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mild veldt
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its 5/6 * 5/6 * 1/6?

forest widget
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the 6 can be any of the 3 dice

mild veldt
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How do u know

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if its ordered sampling tho

forest widget
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does your question mention anything about order

mild veldt
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I sent the question

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It doesnt mention anything abt order

forest widget
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ye, so if you only get one 6, it can be any of the 3 rolls that got the 6

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so you have to consider cases where {the first roll is the 6}, {the second roll is the 6}, {the 3rd roll is the 6}

mild veldt
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so what i did

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1/6 * 1/6 * 1/6

forest widget
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that's the case where all 3 dice come up 6s

mild veldt
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so what i said was right

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at the beginning

forest widget
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yes, and the other 2 cases you're undercounting

mild veldt
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How am I under counting tho

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I dont get it

forest widget
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because for example, {6,1,2} is a valid arrangement where you get one 6

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but so is {6,2,1}

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and so is {1,6,2}, {2,6,1}, {1,2,6}, {2,1,6}

mild veldt
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bruh

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so what do i do

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😂

forest widget
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when you multiply probabilities together you're implicitly defining some form of ordering

mild veldt
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ah ok

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im doing it rn

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ill lyk the answer

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ok

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is it 91/216

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ye

mild veldt
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nice nice

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so how do i know when to use order

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or no order

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multiplying probabilities together always implicitly define some form of order

sometimes it doesn't matter due to the problem's restrictions, but in this case it does, since (6,1,2) and (1,6,2) are considered distinct

and you judge whether to account for permutations based on whether different orders are considered distinct or identical

mild veldt
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ah ok i get u

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so for P(B)

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im rly confused on that

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because i wasnt sure how the ordering works

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e.g can i do 112,121,211 ?

forest widget
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they're considered distinct, so that's 3 permutations

mild veldt
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yep

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so if theres 3 permutations, and theres 6 numbers

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is that 18 then?

forest widget
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no thinkies

mild veldt
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yh this is my problem

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idk how to solve them

forest widget
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usually you try to calculate the probability of getting a valid combination then permute each combination

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but that's not exactly intuitive to grasp until it clicks

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in this case, try to think through:
i want a pair, what's the probability of getting a pair in my first 2 rolls?

i then want a single, what's the probability the 3rd roll isn't the same as the pair?

i now have a valid combination, how many ways can i permute this combination? (remember that you have combinations of the form {a,a,b}, but for the probability you want to calculate, the pair can be any 2 dice)

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the thing is

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e.g when trying to work out the prob of getting a pair in the first 2 rolls

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my logic is ok, for the first roll i can choose any number

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so 1/6

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then the 2nd roll has to be the same

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so 1/6

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and the third can be anything so the probability is 1

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is that the correct way of thinking

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no thinkies

first we're not worried about the 3rd dice yet

second are you sure the odds of rolling 2 dice and getting a pair is 1/36

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for 2 dice the sample space is small enough that you can realistically list out all outcomes or look up a chart

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then you might want to think about where your line of reasoning is flawed

mild veldt
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so u can do 1,1 2,2 3,3 4,4 5,5 6,6

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out of 36

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so 6/36

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which is 1/6

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no?

forest widget
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oh that's what you're trying to express, ok

it just looks weird, because the first roll can be any number, so the probability the first roll is acceptable is 1

the second roll must agree with the first, so you accept the second roll with probability 1/6 (since the first roll is already determined to be some number between 1 to 6)

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now continue

mild veldt
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continue to what bit now

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with the 3rd dice?

forest widget
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what's the probability you accept the 3rd dice, such that the 3 dice form a pair + a single

mild veldt
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the 3rd roll can be anything

forest widget
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can it be equal to the first 2 dice?

mild veldt
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apart from the double

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so 5/6

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so its 1 * 1/6 * 5/6

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so its 5/36

forest widget
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yes, so the probability of getting a valid combination, where in the exact order, you get a pair and a single, is 1 * 1/6 * 5/6 = 5/36

but this is only the case where you roll the single on the 3rd roll, how many ways can you permute each of these dice arrangements (a,a,b)?

mild veldt
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u can have (b,a,a),(a,a,b),(a,b,a)?

forest widget
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yes, so the final probability is?

mild veldt
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15/36

forest widget
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and that's the correct answer

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is that it

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for B

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ye

mild veldt
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tf

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thats more simple than i thought

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So to work out P( A and B)

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So how do I work out P(B|A) now

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probably get P(A and B) first thinkies

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using the same line of thinking as above

mild veldt
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I got it

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Idk how to work out probability of A and B

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is 30

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but i dont know what its over

forest widget
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conditional probability formula

mild veldt
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so A and B = (116) (226) (336) (446) (556) (661) (662) etc until (665)

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then u have 3 permutations for each

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so thats 30

forest widget
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correct, so what's P(A and B)

mild veldt
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idk what u divide by

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is it 30/36?

forest widget
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how many possible results are there when you roll 3 dice

this shouldn't be the hard part i think thinkies

mild veldt
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6 * 6 * 6?

forest widget
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ye that's it

mild veldt
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so 30/216

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ah ok cool

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so its 30/216 divided by P(A)

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for ur helpp

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What is P(A and B and C) the same as writing

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what

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define the event C

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nvm

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i did it

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factorise the expression

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ok

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so i got n(n^2+1)

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let n be an odd number, then investigate the behavior

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so say

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then like expand?

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that might help

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how do u do it so its true for all odd values tho?

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what if u make n= 2x+1

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then you can start the proof

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ok cool

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8x^3+12x^2+8x+2

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@forest widget

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good, what does this expression mean

solid nova
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so first i also divided by 2

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could i replace x with like an odd number and see result?

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u cant divide by 4

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only by 2

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that completes the proof

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oh

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ok

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but at the start it says

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and you just showed both

solid nova
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ok so my fianl sattement will be

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this expressions cannot be divided by 4 so therefore its not a multiple of 4

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can't you do something like

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n^3 + n = n(n-1)(n+1) + 2n

solid nova
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why plus 2n

topaz valley
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expand the rhs and check it's equal

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,w expand n(n+1)(n-1) + 2n

solid nova
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why would u add 2n to that factorsied bracket

topaz valley
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then because n is odd, n+1 and n-1 are both even so the first term is divisible by 4

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but 2n is not

solid nova
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but why would u put the 2n in the equation

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because it's what makes it equal to n^3 + n?

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otherwise you get n^3 - n

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i mean you can't leave it out

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it's just there because that's how the algebra plays out

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right i see ok thanks

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I do not know how to write a proof for this

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It seems like very trivial but how to write a proof can someone help me?

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It's showing that two sets (of solutions) are the same

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and such that the second one is the linear combination of the first

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and then prove that they have the same solutios

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you dropped a condition

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each equation is a linear combination of the equations in the other?

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Can you tell me how I should prove it?

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each equation in one system is a linear combination of the equations in the other system

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I have no Idea how and where to start?

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It's showing that two sets (of solutions) are the same
To show two sets are the same, show that one is a subset of the other, then a superset of the other

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Could you give me an example?

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should I do it with an example?

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an example would be say I want so show that the span of (1, 2, 0) is {(t, 2t, 0) : t real}

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both of these are sets

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so if we take an element in the first set, say a(1, 2, 0), we see it is (a, 2a, 0), and substituting t=a shows it is in the second set - so the first set is a subset of the second

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how to do this problem???

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i don't understand what the lines mean and how to find the radius/height

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equal lengths?

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it's a weird way to show equal lengths but prob

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it's possible to find the volume i think

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It is indeed

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You get radius

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And then height with some trig

clear lily
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no trig

verbal mantle
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Pithagoras

clear lily
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just pyramid height formula

verbal mantle
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Still

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Triangles

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ty

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Please help me how do I do 43

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Start at the step: x^2 - 2x - y^2 - 4y - 4 = 0

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Then complete the square for x and y correctly

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to complete the square for y, try factoring out a -1

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-(y^2 + 4y + 4)

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Then see if u still need to complete the square

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Also I factored out -1

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This is what I got

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By the way this is the answer

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Thank you

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And this is what I got

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I dont know what I'm doing wrong

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Did u watch the video?

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It shows what ur doing wrong

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Idk if your there

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But that isnt right since the y+2 shouldnt have -1 under it

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1/-1 is -1

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why does it have to be zero vector , not just any element of K ?

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that wouldnt be a subspace

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{0} is closed under addition and scalar multiplication

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so {0} is a subspace

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any vector space by definition always needs to include the zero vector

clear lily
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but thats a consequence of closedness under scalar multiplication right

fast peak
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so at the very least you need {0} as a subset of your subspace

clear lily
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and/or scalar -1 and closedness under addition

fast peak
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well by definition of (V,+) being an abelian group I would say

clear lily
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hahah alright

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I just thought there could be another element

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that behaves similar to 0

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the zero element is unique

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if a and b are both zero elements, then a = a+b (cause b is a zero element) = b (cause a is a zero element)

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hi!

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I need help with part ii

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oh it’s okay, I can wait for someone else

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I’ve tried am-gm but I’m still stuck

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is this uni?

slow gulch
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oh I’m not in uni hahah

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damn

carmine minnow
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well i guess you'll need to use part 1 to do part 2

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yes

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wait let me send a picture of my work

carmine minnow
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(a) would be useful in simplifying the denominators, wouldn't it?

slow gulch
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I tried this but I don’t know if it’s going anywhere

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hmm, maybe don't apply AM-GM too quickly

slow gulch
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ohh

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if this isnt uni what is it

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idk math competition?

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oh it’s my math assignment

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oh it’s not a competition haha

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looks like one bro

slow gulch
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ohh hahaha

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it’s further math

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so you take further math?

slow gulch
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yes

alpine girder
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are you a girl or a guy

slow gulch
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umm girl why

carmine minnow
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what happens when you use part a to simplify the denominator

alpine girder
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I dont know many girls who take further math lmao

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didnt mean for it to sound weird mbmb

slow gulch
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okay I’ve tried using a and b

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let me send a picture

alpine girder
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nice handwriting

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is that you in pfp

gaunt lynx
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bro fk off

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why are you obsessed with her

alpine girder
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just asking

slow gulch
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um

gaunt lynx
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don't take it to dms either

gaunt lynx
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nah take it there

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she'll ghost tf outta you

alpine girder
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bro was just asking

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she’s pretty

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Senses tingling

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i am born a nonsense

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alr alr soz bros

alpine girder
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get outta here dude i wasnt doing anything

slow gulch
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can we get back to this haha

short siren
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Sure

slow gulch
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tyy

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I tried using a and b

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@slow gulch reply dm

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im not talking to you

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hahah pls stop

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just want to talk to you

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I just want my question answered 🥲

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ill answer all your questions in dms

gaunt lynx
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<@&268886789983436800>

alpine girder
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im sorry

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i was playing

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This is a math server

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hmm well working backward, maybe you can show that the second term <= 1/4?

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actually no, that doesn't work

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ohh hmm

normal tree
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also this was fun to watch LOL

slow gulch
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I can try

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never seen a guy sliding into a girl's channel before lmao

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Same lmao

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maybe changing the denominator back might be a good idea since it's a nice product

normal tree
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well, you can write (b+c) = 1-a or something

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but yeah, all we need to do now is show $\frac{abc}{ab+bc+ca-abc}\leq\frac{1}{8}$

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Element118

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sorry, wrong direction

slow gulch
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oh ok! I think I can do that

short siren
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Hmm

carmine minnow
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i think it would be easier to do
$\frac{abc}{(a+b)(b+c)(c+a)}\leq\frac{1}{8}$

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Element118

carmine minnow
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since it's homogeneous

slow gulch
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wait isn’t my work enough to show it is < or equal to 1/4

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and I can cross multiply and use am gm I think

carmine minnow
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yeah I think that works

slow gulch
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yaey! ok let me try

carmine minnow
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yeah AM-GM should work because muirhead says yes

normal tree
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does calculus work for this one too

slow gulch
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I think I got it!

topaz valley
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after rewriting the denoms as (a+b)(a+c) it's already homogenous

slow gulch
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is this ok?

topaz valley
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then you can lift the restriction on a,b,c

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if you divide through by b,c and impose another restriction jensens should finish it

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unless im tripping

normal tree
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oh yeah I forgot that AM-GM existed

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does it actually work

carmine minnow
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yeah it does

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homogenising is a useful step

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because it tells you "okay I don't need to continue using the condition given"

slow gulch
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ohhhhh!

carmine minnow
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so it's one less thing to work with

cloud shore
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You probably can write it as a sum of squares

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in terms of sqrt(a), sqrt(b) and sqrt(c), eww

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hahahahha

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tysm for the help!!

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proof looks reasonably solid though

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ok that’s a relief

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Can someone tell me how I got this wrong? I did definite integration with an upper limit of -4 and a lower limit of 2

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maybe you messed up the arithmetic somewhere?

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I checked online and it said I was correct

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sully where did you check and what did you enter

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,w integral x=-4 to 2 of |5x^2 + 5x - 30|

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They wanted absolute

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i dont understand what this is asking exactly

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How does the graph of the integral equation of a circle's equation look like? What are it’s properties?

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you would like to integrate y^2 + x^2 = r^2 with respect to x?

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I mean how the graph will look like

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well yes but its important to be sure of what graph you mean

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If you normally think of x coordinate going to the positive x then you will have two rate of changes at the same time. Like if the circle has a radius of 10 and it’s centre is at the y axis then when you start graphing the integrated function from 0 you will have two rates of changes at the same time

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$f(x) = 2 \int_{-r}^x \sqrt{r^2 - t^2} dt$

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,w f(x) = 2( int from -r to x {r^2 - x^2})

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tushar

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,w plot f(x) = \int_{-5}^x \sqrt{5^2 - t^2} dt

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lol let's see here

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,w plot f(x)=2(-1/3+x-(x^3/3))

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Can anyone explain me how this came?

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at x = r, x should be pi*r^2

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How the graph is continuous?

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The derivative of the graph is a graph of circle so there shouldn't be any value after r for which int f(x) is differentiable

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oh wait

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i thought you meant a function that represents the area of a circle from -r to x where x is between -r and r

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hello! one question, how would i typically calculate for example "-12,3 : 66,79" as a long division? thanks for any help :)

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$-\frac{12.3}{66.79} = -\frac{12.3 \times 100}{66.79 \times 100} = -\frac{1230}{6679}$

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anybody knows how to do that as a long division? thank you for anything :)

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if you do, then what i said should be enough for you to continue.

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onyx glen
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ok, then you should be able to divide 1230 by 6679

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ohhh, now i think i understood

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yeah, understood, thank you :3

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i guess i will just calculate it normally and then add the negative after

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still no clue how to do it

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Did you try using the condensation method

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it did something like

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1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + 1/5 + 1/6 + 1/7 + 1/8 ..... .

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than it grouped it

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like

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(1) + 1/2 + (1/3+ 1/4) + (1/5 + 1/6 + 1/7 + 1/8)

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Looks right. Bound each grouping by the number of terms times the smallest term

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1/3 + 1/4 > 1/4 + 1/4 = 2 (1/4) = 1/2

tulip beacon
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Yea

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Do the same for the next (1/5+...+1/8)

tulip beacon
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it changes them all to 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 = 1/2

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Almost done. Count how many groupings you have

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That's how many terms you have in the sum

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OH

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Ok

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so we wanna know how many grouping we got all togeather

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idk how many will we have?

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How to do?

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did they teach you the intermediate value theorem?

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if not please disregard what i said

dapper scaffold
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i've not heard of it but maybe they have

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i mean if that theorem uses the integral info i think it'll work

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well if they didnt teach you yet then its not needed

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and probably not what they intended for you to use

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do you know how to do it another way?

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like using upper and lower bound integrals?

clear lily
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yeah that sounds like the way

dapper scaffold
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i just don't understand how you get that simple of an LHS and RHS

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my working out doesn't show that all

clear lily
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well if we draw 1/x

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we get as lower sum 1-1/t

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wait you do?

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how did you get the minus?

clear lily
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ehm ill draw it one second

dapper scaffold
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like i thought you get 1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + ..... + 1/t

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cool

clear lily
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so this is 1 lower sum

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or like this

dapper scaffold
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i get the diagram but i can only see how it equates to 1/1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + .... 1/t

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not 1-1/t

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like where does the minus even come from

clear lily
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well you only take 1 lower sum

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for the lower bound

dapper scaffold
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wait why only 1?

clear lily
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wait perhaps im mistaken

topaz valley
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,w integral from 1 to t of 1/t dx

clear lily
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,w (t-1)(1/t)

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oh dx

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nvm

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this area of the lower sum is (t-1)(1/t) = 1 - 1/t

dapper scaffold
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yeah makes sense

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wiat

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dx

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don't you have to make a substituion then? Like for dt?

topaz valley
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,w integral from 1 to t of 1+1/t (1 - x) dx

dapper scaffold
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uhh aren't you taking the integral of a completley different function then?

topaz valley
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how is it not true

clear lily
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i looked at 1/x

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instead of ln x

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thats why lmaso

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topaz valley
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integrating gives the required result

clear lily
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$\leq *$

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im just complaining about notation

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everybody know $\leq$ is better than $\le$

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wait

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how did you know to add 1/t(1-x)

topaz valley
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it's the linear approximation

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if you plug in x=t you get back 1/t

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Hello I need help

topaz valley
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,w 1 + 1/t (1 - x) where x=t

faint sigil
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paimon is 2 feet tall. her feet are 4 feet above the ground. celestia is 29029 feet from the ground. the angle of elevation is 80°. how far does paimon need to fly if she wants to be directly below celestia?

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What is the answer?

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so you just found the line tangent to 1/x?

topaz valley
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no

clear lily
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is that the linear approximation

topaz valley
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i found the line sitting above 1/x

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it needs to be an upper bound

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ohhhh

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so it is like this

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is this better for calculating the sum of an arithmetic series than just doing:

averge(min and max value) * number of elements

n = length of sequence
a = first value
d = difference between any two numbers which are next to each other in the sequence

narrow pawn
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I would just use the formula

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The second formula

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ok

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Its the same result but I just use the second one based on standard convention and because of memory

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ok

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one question

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what was the formula to calculate the length of a sequence

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nvm i remember

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im not sure how to answer the lemma part

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this is induction

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hais

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fill in blank

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hm i think just fill in from what u got right lol

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a is fk+2