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correct!
some teachers like it when you use notation like that and some prefer you use inequalities (use whichever your teacher has been using but thats the correct answer)
ah okay, let me write it out for you to make it more clear since i think you understand the math already anyways and just need help with notation
greater than 0 : $$(\infty , -6) and (4, \infty)$$ \
less than or equal to 0: $$[-6, 4]$$
this can also be written as
greater than 0 : $$x \le -6 and x \ge 4$$ \
less than or equal to 0: $$-6 \le x \le 4 $$
celeste16
yesss
if its parentheses, then that value is not included but the square brackets means that value is included
the domain of the function is basically all the values except the ones that are "invalid"
so in this case we want to consider the values that would make the denominator 0
because we know we can divide by 0
so what values of x would make the denominator equal to 0?
6 and -9?
correct
so now we want to express the entire domain of this function and remove those 2 values
(like we did in the previous problem)
-9<x<6 ?
hmm yes that one of them but theres more
so you basically want to express all the times that the function is greater than and all the times that it is less than (what you have only considers when it is less than)
greater than 0 : $$(\infty , -9)$$ and $$(6, \infty)$$ \
less than 0: $$(-9, 6)$$
notice that all of them are parentheses this time instead of square brackets because we dont want values that make the denominator 0 so we want to exclude the values -9 and 6
celeste16
this makes more sense
my last question, how do i rewrite this without logs?
can the 1/2 go into the x
and the 3 go into the 3 by the 8?
well the way it works is that it can go inside but it becomes an exponent
so basically, i can rewrite the left side
as log base 8 of x^(1/2)
and the right side as
log base 8 of 3^3
and since both sides are log base 8, we can set the insides equal to each other
so we have sqrt(x) = 27
so x = 27^2
im not looking to solve just rewrite without logs
x = -sqrt(27) doesn’t make sense as a solution
oh right cuz we have logs here
have i? 🤨 maybe im trippin
you are very much trippin
why?
consider this
and this
ahhh notation, i miswrote it
i thought the math was wrong 😭 okay okay my bad, i rushed the end
uh no the math is wrong
before that point the math is wrong?
we'll never find out what layla was gonna say 
is it right now? or is it still wrong?
ok good
LOL i was going to make a joke and say she divided by sqrt but then realized that didn’t make sense
cus it would have been x = 27/sqrt in that case
not x = sqrt(27)
do you guys know how to rewrite without logs?
celeste explained it earlier
what part? i think log is still there? im not solving for x
rewriting without any logs and solving for x happen to be roughly the same problem here lol
but you could probably leave it as sqrt(x) = 27 if you wish
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So.
1E6 = 1000000 = a million
Can i say 1E1 for 10? And can i say 1E0 for 1? (if i wanna show off?)
lol sure
No one really says 1E0
but i don’t know what it shows off haha
Now, what if i want to write something like 1.00000000000172652516191 and i really need the last part. Can i somehow contract it using E?
1E1 is fine because if you were dealing with sig figs and scientific notation
You can't really write exact values with E notation without having all of the decimal values in your base if I understand correctly
1 + .172…*10^(something negative) maybe
i didn’t count the digits but that’s how you could determine the (something negative)
Btw, 6,6×10^-26 is less than 1, but isn't negative, isn't it?
Yeah it's not
correct
It's just 1/(6,6^26) so it can't be less than 0
What's bigger? 6,6×10^-26 or 5,5×10^-26?
5.5
no
no?
1/(6,6^26) and 1/(5,5^26)
that’s not what it is
hmm you misunderstood
Oh yeah lmao I'm tripping
So, 6,6 is bigger?
Yes
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not sure how they want me to solve this
draw a triangle with hypotenuse length 1
the triangle should have side lengths that fit your given information for tan(theta)
the problem doesnt give me side lengths
so i put the 1 and 2 for those side lengths?
yes
what does that tell me
did you draw the triangle?
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For 41 I got f(x)=-2^x + 7 but its supposed to be -2(3)^x+7 where does the 3 come from?
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let me see if i understand this correctly. the cosine of an obtuse angle will always be negative, and the cosine of an acute angle will always be positive?
pls @ me if anyone responds
@hollow moth yes
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for this problem, i would use permutations, but so would I do I know the total number is 45 for the digits, but how would i use the permutations
no because you can have repeated digits
so for example 11111 is a valid code
sorry you edited your response lol.
Oh, so would the total amount of digits be 100,000?
yep exactly! It's 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 = 10^5 or 100,000 permutations
Okay, thank you so much!
np!
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I don’t quite understand the third step where they moved y from the outside of the first summation
this step?
No the one after that step
what part dont you understand with that step?
they are moving y into the second sum because y does not depend on the index x
brain fart hold up
instead of summing over the y, they are first summing over the x
and if they sum over the x, they have to change the inside sum to be define y with x instead
the first line is saying "sum over all y, and sum over all x such that g(x)=y"
the second says "sum over all x, and sum over all y such that y=g(x)"
so basically, theyve swapped the two sums
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For the first line
I don’t really get how the sum works
Take for example for when y=2
Is it then saying 2 multipled by the sum of all the P(X=x) such that g(x)=2
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help
do you know about supplementary angles?
what's the angle on a straight line?
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hello
I have no idea how to solve this.
putting in 0 for the x makes it turn into 0/0 doesnt it?
6*0 for the top is 0 again isnt it
and i dont know how to calculate -sin(0) to be honest
not sure how this gives me a result
is there a way to know what -sin(0) is ?
but its not sin(0) but - sin(0) isnt it
like when you do the derivative thing of cos(x) its not sin(x) but -sin(x) isnt it
right
it is, but what's the problem anyway?
i need to find the limit
since sin(0) = 0, then -sin(0) = 0, just like if you had 10sin(0) = 0
sin(0) = 0 so whatever is multiplied by it will still be 0
oh okay :D... so another time doing the derivative thing right?
yes exactly.
With the first round of L'H, you should get 6x/(-sin(x)), which when you plug in x = 0, you get 0/0
so do L'H one more time
then the answer will be clear
the bottom is -cos(0) then, is that = 1 ?
i know about cos(0) but not -cos(0)
for the top its 6 of course, so 6/1 , or is -cos(0) = -1 ? so 6/-1 ?
thank you! so strictly speaking -sin(0) is also = -0
?
or does -0 not exist 😄
-0 is the same thing as 0!
a bit weird I know
it's unique in that fact
-1 is not the same thing as 1, but -0 is the same thing as 0
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thank you, i was wondering if -0 is valid as a number even if its the same as 0
typically you write -0 as 0
i tried looking on google if -0 counts as a number but i couldnt find anything
0 doesn't have a sign
it's the only number on the real line with that property. 0 is special 🙂
yep np!
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sin2@ =-1/2
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Hey guys
I was solving this, but I ended with another result
x + 5/2(ln |x²-4|) + C
Would it be correct?
Basudev
Alright
So could you help me where I messed up?
Left corner is when I made the transformation
Nevermind
I got ir
But idk how to fix it?
I mean, once I've got this
How do I follow?
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the answer?
well here you can't just get the answer
is my working on track?
no worries
unless you made arithmetic error the steps seem alright to me that's the approach
yea but i ve checked the calculations several times
its pretty straightfoward
however the answer says otherwise
ping helpers
<@&286206848099549185> could i get a second opinion on this thanks
@cloud moon could u assist me with another question
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rearrange?
as in expand?
Integrate both sides with respect to x
for which i ve simplified down to (k-1)^6 - 21k - 1 = 0
\int dy/dx dx = y
my antiderivative is ((kx-1)^6)/3k + c
is mine correct?
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Differentiate and check
correct
so where do i go from there
i have c and k variable
Use your point to solve for C
thats where im stuck
i have
Show it
Was hoping you made an algebra mistake
feeling is mutual haha
,w solve (k-1)^6 -21k -1=0
Result:
0
okay no this is way out of my league
The intent is for you to guess small integers
I can't explain beyond that
is there some other method that doesnt require the binomial expansion of that polynomial
as in brute force?
Yup
thats rather odd
If there is, I don't know it
alright thanks
also could u help verify my working and answer
apparently its wrong but im not seeing it
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A six digit number has 1 in the units place. When this 1 is changed from the extreme right to extreme left, without changing the order of any other digit, the new six digit number is one-third of the original number. Find the original number
okay
Is it possible to have the last number and the first as same?
i don't exactly understand the question
awhy does it matter
just make an equation
and solve it
Because there could be only two numbers as the last digit of the second number
1 and 7
If you put 7 as the last digit on the second number then you will have 7 as the first digit of the first number. Hence the first number will be bigger than 3x of the last number
If you put 7 as the last digit on the second number then you will have 7 as the second to last digit of the first number
Again the last digit can't be any other number than 7 ( for some arithmetical reasons) so it is not possible not have the same number as the first and last digits of the two numbers
I don't know
you;re doing too much research, and it's gotta be false but it doesn't matter because it's unnecessary
Why it is false?
because you said that if you put 7 as the last digit on the second number then you will have 7 as the first digit of the first number
so i misunderstood, or you misspoke or you're doing something wrong
Yes?
According to do the question they should be equal
so, you're doing something that wouldn't actually happen
Why?
sometimes it happens
I gave the proof to you
i reject everything you said though
no, i won't read it i promise
I'm like being totally transparent
I think you're wrong because of the statement
you made
that i quoted
i won;t read the proof if it's long, if it's like 4 lines then fine
Leave It's 5 line long
i left
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hey
No
♡LexQa♡
Foil this and you can find out what it really is
sopinha
'-'
Secret
what if there was a * symbol instead of -
what the frog man
♡LexQa♡
so its a^2-2ab+b^2 right
7 being a and the root being the b
Yes
It took me approximately 10 years to finally separate math from being a chore that I only associated with school into something more than that
Math is fun if you don't treat it as an arduous necessity that you have to undergo
may i ask you another one then maybe
if you do the ^2 thing with this
i assume you put a ()^2 around it
but if it would be multiplication instead of + and - then you could do ^2 for every single part of these right?
I mean you can always apply what I meant here, if that's what you are wondering about
But I didn't quite understand what you meant there
i mean like if on the picture it would be 49 multiplied with the rest and * x instead of + x at the end, could you apply the ^2 to all?
i wrote it down!!!
top is how its written and the bottom is what i meant with multiplication instead
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hey
all of these numbers are rational
@wild sleet just giving out answers.
about half the time yeah
lol im just trying to get this practice done as soon as possible
probably closer to 3/4 of the time
That's the fastest way to learn nothing
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How do I solve this logarithmic equation?
Tried searching for a video couldn’t find one
its not an equation 
$\log_8 (\sqrt{2})$ isnt an equation
Herels
not "solve" again but calculate
I cannot use a calculator
so have to figure out how to get the answer to those style problems
Who told u to use a calculator
just saying
brb irl
Here is the question again so don’t have to scroll all the way up
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riemann
What do I do after that
riemann
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how do i convert a linear function to vertex form and factored form
Do you mean a quadratic?
that's not linear
its a quadratic?
yes
when i put it in desmos it shows a line not any curve
then you are inputting it incorrectly
uh
can you show me a picture cuz its showing a line for me still
oh wait
oh i didnt add the x
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I am doing partial fractions and I am confused on why x+3A just disappears?
where
its because theyre equating the x coefficients on the left and right
on the left there are 0 and on the right is 6A+3B
It's because they only need the coefficient of X which one on LHS to equate in this question
So they just get rid of x+3A?
no
its 5=(6A+3B)x + 3A
then focus only on the x coefficients
there are no x terms on the left so 0, on the right the coefficient of x is 6A+3B, for the equation to work then 0=6A+3B must be true
No, it's like there are 2 terms on RHS they are
1.(6A+3B)x
2.3A
Now on LHS we have only single term that is a constant it's 5
Now actually what's happening we have to compare LHS and RHS with each variable ,in this question we only have constants on both side of quality we we'll compare 5=3A and we don't have the variable of X on LHS so it anemones 0=6A +3B
So you'll get A=5/3 from constants and when you'll substitute the value of A in to the variable equation you will get B as -10/3
Hope it helps
Whats rhs stand for?
You said we have Constanta on both sides of the equation? I though 5 was the only constant?
Yes we a liner equation RHS with one variable of X and 3A is constant
In comparison when the LHS
OK let me explain you with an anology
You are standing on a road
I swear it feels like constant and coefficient change
And you have two houses on both the sides do the road one on you left hand and another on you right hand side
No you a your parents living in house which is on right Hand and your friends parents live in the house in your left
Now
Suppose your father is a variable X and your mom is constant
Similarly your friends father went out of town for some urgent work so on his mom is at home and road signifies equality
So here what I am trying to say though your parents may have difference and similarity like different means different values in the equation but similarity means you have an equation on both the sides having parents
So 3x is a constant? I thought any number in front of a variable was a coefficient
Ok I think I get it, 5 and 3A are constants so we group them together. Then divide x on both sides which is 0 since 5 is gone
Would've thought that 3A would become -3A though
Still confused on what happened to the x variable tho?
Did you divide it by 0?
Oh
Did you get it?
Kinda, didn't know you could take a variable out of 0
Actually we cannot but it's only for better understand
Because X differentiating
If X is gone then how can we differentiate
Whats differentiate mean?
Partial fraction is a part of integration and for integration you need to know differentiation
Actually we are just comparing a quantity with a variable
You can also do it like this
Ok this actually makes sense
Now 5 ans 3A, do those just go together? Separate from the rest of the equation?
No bro
You are doing elimination method
To solve the value of A and B
So that you can right up go there and place the value og A and B in the question and solve further for integration
How do we know it's 3A = 5 and not vice versa?
I guss you have understood
I mean how do we know its not 5 = 3A
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@gilded thorn what's the problem here? catch me up to speed
It's same, only representation is different
well, I have no clue how they got from one to the other
feels like context is missing, you didn't screenshot the whole thing(or what's the problem)
but I need to go for now, so, sorry and good luck
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I have to use these to figure it out
There is a lot of material to work with, how do I know which one to use
which one?
.
i mean u gotta pick between rules of inferences and those simplification laws
Yes, but I don't know how to identify the correct ones
Where do I start?
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no
yeah the SRi rules work with and/or
so looks like it makes sense to change the implications to and/or
@crystal hare
1 equivalent to not (P and Q) or R or S, which is equivalent to not P or not Q or R or S
2 equivalent to not S or not Q
3 equivalent to P or R
Q => R is equivalent to not Q or R
then the rest is just applying SR5 it seems
no
Oh
it makes sense to change the implications to and/or
yeah
so far okay
yeah
Should i write this instead?
oh my bad
I think this must be what you meant?
But should i apply it to (r v s) too?
Ok
SR5 on 6. and 7.?
or SR5 on 5. and 7.
I can't see it through
I know SR5 is useful, but I can't decide on which
7 is wrong
where did you get not P or not Q from?
yeah but you threw R or S away
I don't know how to aplly (1.11.14) on 4. without throwing them away
if A equiv B then (A or C) equiv (B or C)
It says i can add a not on Q, When i do that i get not(R v S)
Well it must be inocorrect but I'll try again
why not rule 15
Let me check it
Ok if i use it on 4. how will it turn out
I am sorry if i am being dense, this topic is just not my strong side
yeah next you can apply the SR5
Ok, so Which number do I apply SR5 on?
Let me test some numbers i guess
I can't figure the next step out
i have now seperated to be alone
Oh nvm
that won't work
I am aware that if i can get (not Q or R) then i'll be able to turn it into Q implies R. But getting there is the problem for me
@carmine minnow Sorry to bother you
But can you maybe point me in the right directio
direction*
if i can get rid of the Left hand side
on 10.
I can then apply sr5 on 5. and 10. because then I would get not Q or R
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what does this (5/3) part mean?
Combination
Combination is a selection from a group of objects, regardless of order.
C(n,r)=n!/(r!*(n-r)!)
yeah ive got that
but theres a 2nd part to the question
it asks to deduce the value of 5 over 3
that's whati m asking
deduce means find
you have to use this formula
so it's just a numbers problem within a set problem?
seems so
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here’s a cool trick
✅
for example
yes
C(5,2) = 5*4/2!
what you do is
you start with 5 in the numerator
and multiply with (r-1) many numbers that come before it
since r=2
yep
and then just factorial r
and just divide that by 2!
interesting
9x8x7 / 3!
yep, exactly
danggg
🙏
that’s how I memorized it
yw
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I'm not sure how to work this one out. My first instinct is to square 4.3 in order to remove the square root function, but then I don't know how to continue from there. I'm not even sure if that's a step I should be taking.
what would you get if you square both sides
never put the numbers in before you have reached your goal
sooo 4.3^2 = 2W / k ?
Clarkie
then solve for W
im not sure how to solve for W
if you multiply both sides by k what would you get?
remembering that $\frac{a}{a} =1$
Clarkie
then I can divide L^2 * k by 2, right?
yep
or multiply by a half yee
Then I can plug 4.3 and 69.8 in. Sooo, I've got 645.3 foot-pounds as the answer. Is that correct?
yes
awesome 🙂 thanks for the help. I clearly forgot this formula
have a good one
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I am trying to get the angle between 2 vectors. One method I was was using the dot product:
cos θ = (a · b) / (|a| |b|)
θ = cos-1 [ (a · b) / (|a| |b|) ]
But I'm confused on how to apply that. Is that not a scalar dividing by a vector?
oh okay thank you i thought |A| was normalized vector
that would be a/|a|
What does |A| mean then?
the length of a
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Is this working correct
If f(x) = 5x^3 - 6x + 2, find f’(2)
f’(x) = 15x^2 - 6
f’(2) = 15(2)^2 - 6
f’(2) = 54
,calc 15(2)^2 - 6
Result:
54
So yeah
oh
f'(-1) = 10
3(2x^2) - qx
f’(-1) =3(-2^2) - q(-1)
f’(-1) = -12 + q?
Would this be correct?
f ' (x) = 6x² - q
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hi, i've been trying to figure this out. how can i think about a summation of many tiny sub-problems in terms of a single differential equation as n approaches infinity? i thought i was on the right track when i solved it for this first one:
when n=1, we just get:
but as n grows larger and larger, and approaches infinity, then this is what we get:
so that's all good for that first example. that is the exact correct equation that i wanted to turn that summation (which was just a brute force approximation) into.
but now i am trying to do the same thing for this (it is similar but slightly different), without any luck:
@grave juniper Has your question been resolved?
ok, so doing the same thing as before, when n=1, this is easy, just replace n with 1, and for this new one here, we get:
which is ultimately just 0, which is correct for n=1.
but for n->infinite, this is the answer, which i just arrived at now by continually guessing until it fits the curve of the summation/approximation. but i have no idea why this works, or how to arrive at this again without just guessing + curve-fitting. is there a concrete method to doing this?
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i though this would be an easy question. also i have no idea what topic this is.
i don't know anything about math or the different types.
So you would need an expression for the sum of the square roots of the natural numbers up to n
which seems pretty difficult
You prove this with Riemann sums
https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1157426/riemann-sum-of-sqrtx-with-uniform-partition
The sum approaches 2/3 as n goes to infinity.
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I need to prove this by induction.
it should be log(j!)
Rhs or LHS?
start from the left, and use the hint about the log law
lhs
log(j!)+log(j+1)=log((j+1)!)
and your inductive step should have a sum
yup
Okay so about the log law
Is my a = j and b = 1
b=j+1
yup
As for my next step what options do i have from here?
Is there any rule I can use here?
maybe this?
yes
Now that I have this, I see that they are somehow similar, but how do I get the factorial in outside (j+1)
Should i multiply
I'll try it out
Did I write the first term wrong?
why is there (j-3)?
In this example I found on the internet n! is n * (n-1) * (n-2) * ...(2 * 1)
do you understand what the factorial is?
Yes if I had the factorial of 3! for example it would be 3 * 2 * 1=6
do you understand what the "..." means?
No actually it confuses me a bit
what is 10!?
write it out as a product
like this
10 * 9 * 8 * 7 * 6 * 5 * 4 * 3 * 2 * 1 =
Oh I see
so "..." means fill in the gap with all numbers between 2 and (j-3)
But we don't know the numbers between them right?
Ok I see where that comes from. But what about 2 * 1?
Oh
I see
Nvm
It is always there at the end
That is why we used the "..." to fill the gap
yeah exactly
So what about (j-2)(j-3)
I just added them in for clarity
So I have to write (j-1)"..." * 2 * 1
yeah thats fine
yup
Well how can i move on from here?
notice that the thing in the log looks like (j+1)!
Well i kinda see it but where does the ! come from in this situation
write out (j+1)!
and what is j+1-1?
j-1
Okay
Alright
it is the exact same therefore I have proven it
Thank you so much man. Your actually really good at explaining things
I can see how it works now. Thanks a lot
Wait that is j my bad
Wait sorry I am confused by just a little thing
if this equals j
Then i get (j+1) * (j * "..." * 2 * 1)
Well I guess nvm
Oh wait
I understand now xDD
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how do i find g(0) ?
180,540?
what's cos(0)?
i looked at the cos graph and the point as 0 was, 90, 270, then doubled it?
90,270?
cos(0) just has one value
how do i know that
it has one output per input
wait wait
y is 1?
yes, cos(0) = 1
yup
yes f(g(0)) = 10
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Have tried several times and still cannot find the inverse function of f(x), wanna get some helps from u guys
stop innvading others' channels @empty monolith
and multiposting
note that no attempts should be made to find the inverse function for this
Yeah, since I had tried and can't find out
Sorry
note that the existence of an inverse for the specified interval indicates that there will be one solution to
2 = 2x + ln(x)
and that can be identified by inspection
How could I inspect for this
Well it's kinda funny. Just find when f(x) = 2
And yeah
You kinda just have to like ... idk how to explain
Know what x is supposed to be just by looking at it
for what values of x do you know exactly what ln(x) is?
So all I need to do is let x = 2
no
you want the value of the expression
2x + ln(x)
to be 2,
it would help to think about simple case(s) where 2x + ln(x) would be an integer
hmm

