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indigo anchor
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uh huh

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if this statement is true then shouldn't p + q = 0, and not p - q????

last parrot
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Ok

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Have you understood ewuation 1?

indigo anchor
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yeah thats the original right

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The one next to "therefore"

indigo anchor
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the (2) one? yes i understand it

last parrot
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The denoted with number 2 right

indigo anchor
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we are simply multiplying (1) with p^(1/3) to get (2)

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correct

indigo anchor
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hmm

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But how to get 3 here, you multiply equation 1 by b and subtract equation 2 multiply by c

indigo anchor
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yes im following now

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i was stuck exactly after getting the equation (3)

last parrot
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But already know that cube root of p is irrational, right?

indigo anchor
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yes

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And b^2-ac with ab-c^2p are rationals

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Since a b c p rational

indigo anchor
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oh

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true

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So if a rational multiply with an irrational and add another rational = 0, then the coefficient before the irrational must be 0

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Then, b^2 =ac

indigo anchor
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{(Q') x (Q) } + (Q) will always be Q' right?

indigo anchor
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OMG HOW DID I MISS THAT

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SILLY ME

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Lmao

indigo anchor
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omg im so embarrassed

last parrot
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And ab = c^2p too

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I guess annie went thru quite fast

indigo anchor
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i think so

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she did

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thank you soo much for helping me here

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i appreciate it

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No worries man

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indigo anchor
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yeah that i'll do

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thanks again

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indigo anchor
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can you continue from there

last parrot
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What happened

indigo anchor
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b^2 - ac = ab - (c^2)p = 0 right

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how do we come to a = b = c = 0 from there

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No i didnt say this

indigo anchor
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you didn't but isn't that true

last parrot
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It is

indigo anchor
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from equation (3), b^2 - ac MUST BE ZERO, which implies that ab - (c^2)p = 0

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indigo anchor
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so how do we come to a=b=c=0

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yes

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We have c^4p^2 =(c^2p)^2 =(ab)^2

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=a^2b^2

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Correct]

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indigo anchor
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i understand c^4p^2 = (ab)^2, but how is (ab)^2 = (a^3)^2?

last parrot
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You subs in b^2=ac

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indigo anchor
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okay

lunar harbor
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You have a^2b^2, now you subs in b^2=ac, then?

indigo anchor
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we get (a^3)c!

last parrot
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Now, suppose c not equal to 0

indigo anchor
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hmm

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In c^3p^2 = a^3, you divide both side by c^3

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Then what do you have?

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You almost there

indigo anchor
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p^2 = a^3/c^3 = rational?

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so pe is rational and irrational at the same time

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Now, take cube root both sjde

indigo anchor
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which is not true

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so c is 0?

indigo anchor
last parrot
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What happen if you take cube root both side here?

indigo anchor
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we get p^(2/3) = a/c

last parrot
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But, p^2/3 is irrational

indigo anchor
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yeah

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And a/c is rational

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So c must be 0

indigo anchor
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yeah

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Now, you subs c back into c^4p^2 = a^3c

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Then find that a=c=0

indigo anchor
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p?

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Typo ;))

indigo anchor
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np

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Then c^4p^2 = a^2b^2, subs c and a in

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Find out b=0 also

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Thats it

indigo anchor
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we should put c=0 in b^2 = ac to get b = 0

last parrot
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Either way but still correct

indigo anchor
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alright

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but when we initially put c = 0 in (c^4)(p^2) = (a^3)c, dont we get "0 = (a^3) * 0" which is true for all values of 'a'? then how come a = 0 is definite?

coarse flume
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Substituting b=c=0 into the original equation we have a=0

last parrot
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Add in c^3p^2 = a^3

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Not all equations work btw

indigo anchor
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last parrot
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You cant find a from here

indigo anchor
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ohh i get it

last parrot
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But actually it still works

indigo anchor
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yeah it does

last parrot
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Disregard my quotes

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You divide c both side

indigo anchor
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i think we cant

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cause c = 0

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and they say it is forbidden to divide by 0

last parrot
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But we havent known a c yet, dont we

indigo anchor
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oh so we need to do this bofre everything?

last parrot
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Correct

indigo anchor
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oh

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cool

last parrot
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c is a variable tho

indigo anchor
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hmm

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thank you for explaing this question to me in great detail!

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now i dont have more questions anymore

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thanks again!

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All good dawg

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This is the daily ACT Question from Gohar's guide. So my questions are: what is an ampitude and a period? and how do you even do sin (opposite/hypotenuse) for that equation?

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the general form for this is $y = A\sin (Bx + C)$

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Amplitude is defined as $|A|$

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period is defined as $\frac{2\pi}{|B|}$

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@fast flame ^

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barren imp
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I need help with completing the square

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barren imp
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just understanding it from the ground up

faint gorge
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i have a blueprint

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barren imp
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I do not get

faint gorge
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which step? maybe post your progress or something

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barren imp
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good

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leave that

acoustic onyx
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ok

jagged ledge
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its basically forcing a square term out of the terms you are given

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so before anything , all square s are in the form of a^2 + 2ab +b^2. you can dee this for yourself when you expand (a+b)^2

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lets look at x^2 + 2x

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if you wanna complete the square then the a^2 term will equal the x^2 term, so a will equal x

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then since we dont have a b^2 term, which we can see because we dont hsve anything without an x in the equation given, we must use the 2x which is the 2ab term

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we know a equals x, so we can divide both by 2x, giving us that b equals one

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so (x+1)^2 but if you expand that youll realise youve got an extra term, b^2 or 1

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so x^2 + 2x in completed swuare form is (x+1)^2-1

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I gtg , but i will write these in my notes

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this is high school mission,,,
When f(1 )equal fprime(1),
and in all x>=0 real number
f(x) >=fprime(x)

how can I get minor fprime (2)?

floral hollow
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Yes

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Minimum number that x=2 I think

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More try needed?

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Minimum of f(2)

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Yes one point on the graph is f(2) I think

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last parrot
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but, for what type of function that its deriative would be smaller?

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quick hint, this is some kind of exponential stuff

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Next hint, Euler

floral hollow
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Oh gosh

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what function have euler?

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$e^{-x}$

woven radishBOT
last parrot
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this would be obvious now, right?

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since derivative is $-e^{-x}$

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last parrot
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and smaller than the f(x)

floral hollow
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I feel dizzy

last parrot
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well, we suppose $g(x) = e^{-x} f(x)$

woven radishBOT
last parrot
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you find the derivatives

floral hollow
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Okay

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I learned derivative in high school, $g(x)$

woven radishBOT
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최선우

last parrot
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nice

hollow vine
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i'm just gonna jump in with no context but the thing that popped into my mind is that you can set up and equality case, and solve the differential equation

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Minhh is right tho

floral hollow
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My brain exposed cause I just thought about

frosty crescent
# woven radish **Minhh**

motivation: when we want to prove that the solutions to f'(x) = f(x) are f(x) = Ce^x, this is the approach usually taken lol

floral hollow
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floral hollow
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But there is more higher concept to understand math

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hollow vine
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$f(x)=f'(x)$

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IdelUser404

floral hollow
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deferential equation is

hollow vine
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such as the one above

floral hollow
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1min

hollow vine
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Example: Exponential growth differential equation

[
\frac{dy}{dx} = ky
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General solution

[
y(x) = Ce^{kx}
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Where:
y(x) is the unknown function
k is a constant
C is an arbitrary constant determined by initial conditions

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floral hollow
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Unknown function… I see

hollow vine
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just an example it could look every different

floral hollow
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In my question, there is three different valuables that $f(x)$

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최선우

floral hollow
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Can I change may nicname back?

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I try more my self

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Next time I want to ask formal, good question

hollow vine
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IdelUser404

hollow vine
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i saw in your work you've been using polynomials, which won't work

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lavish vale
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Is it possible to work out Pr(B) from Pr(AnB)?

lavish vale
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Please don't give me tips as it's against university policy

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Just answering the initial question would be good

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J9jef9joejf

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I'd need Pr(A|B)

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Which is what I'm trying to work out

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Wait

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Or I could do:

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Pr(B) = Pr(AnB)/Pr(A)

placid rover
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have you considered giving the answer is a big tip

lavish vale
last parrot
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Tips is hints

lavish vale
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I want someone to say if it's possible or not to work out Pr(B) from the information I have

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Hmmm

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What are all the given infos

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Only p(a) and p(anb)?

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lavish vale
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I've got 20 mins left to do it before it gets automatically handed in

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left it to the last minute a bit

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the procrastinator that I am

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Uh oh, is this a test?

lavish vale
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so kinda a test

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is that against this server's policy as well?

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shusduhfs

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Bayes Theorm is killing me

half ermine
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That would give you p(s)

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P(anb) = p(a)p(b)

lavish vale
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lemme think

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how would that work?

half ermine
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It's like a property of baye's theorem

placid rover
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Please stop helping the user

half ermine
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😢😢😢

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Even idk

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Close channel

lavish vale
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anyway thanks guys

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half ermine
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Just tryna figure out 🥀

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lavish vale
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I'm gonna get like 80%

half ermine
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Okay bro when u get answer dm it to me

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It's an interesting question

faint zinc
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@lavish vale a timed assignment? Not a test is it?

lavish vale
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my bad

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I forgot

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welp, unfortunately, that's something I need to ban you for, sorry.

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Guys I need help with this question, this is my working so far but I don’t know what to do after this

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is the question 542?

glass kraken
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you can find x1 y1 as trig

glass kraken
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then you subs P in L

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subs x1 y1 in L

glass kraken
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knew that : = x+y=4

glass kraken
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I’ll try that

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ye ye

glass kraken
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Ok now I’m getting a weird mess in terms of tan and cos

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I’m sure we only need to find slope of M

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But idk how to here

last parrot
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have you found in term of sin cos

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after you subs in point A in L

glass kraken
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hmm i mean there is misunderstanding here

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Let the line L cut at AM, note this point be P

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then you should have $x_1 = 1 + d \cos \theta = 1 + \sqrt{\frac{2}{3}} \cos \theta$

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and $y_1 = 2 + d \sin \theta = 2 + \sqrt{\frac{2}{3}} \sin \theta$

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now you subs these values in line L

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I’m getting

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Cos + sin = root 3 by root 2

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last parrot
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or you make sin + cos = sin (theta + something)

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Got it finallyyyyy

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Thanks a ton u guys

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No problem

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Guys why is the answer here D and not A??

faint gorge
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Show yout work

glass kraken
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If p and q coincide (as the circles are intersecting) wouldnt the distance between the two points become zero

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placid rover
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first thing you should do is probably complete the squares on the equations?

glass kraken
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I messed up with calculations ar the start n thought radius was 4 instrad of 2

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i don't see how you're drawing such a diagram without doing so

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whatever suits you

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completing the square on the equation will directly give you the centres and radii

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Because we literally have 1 hour or less for 25 math questions depending on how fast or slow u solve other subjects

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teal tapir
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can someone please help me understand this paragraph i have no idea what they're talking about i just saw a formula suddenly that came out of nowhere

gloomy aurora
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defined by

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they define rotational there.

teal tapir
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yeah but what does it mean

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like what does rot x F mean

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what's the rot vector

gloomy aurora
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they just defined it

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Annie Maqionde

teal tapir
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so logically the vector rot has as coordinates the partial derivatives

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huh

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but it's partial derivatives with for no function

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i mean when you calculate the determinant u'll get it eventually but what does a vector having derivative of nothing as coordinates mean

trail eagle
# teal tapir i mean when you calculate the determinant u'll get it eventually but what does a...

Strictly speaking, $$\nabla = \left(\frac{\partial}{\partial x}, \frac{\partial}{\partial y}, \frac{\partial}{\partial z}\right)$$ is an operator on functions. You give it a function and it spits out a vector field. This gives the usual notion of the gradient as $$\text{grad} f(x,y,z) = \nabla f(x,y,z) =\left(\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}, \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}, \frac{\partial f}{\partial z}\right).$$

From this we can define other quantities, like $\text{rot} \vec{F}(x,y,z) = \nabla \times \vec{F}(x,y,z)$, which if you remember the cross product is exactly the determinant you're calculating in that picture.

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Azyrashacorki

teal tapir
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actually i just started this chapter about partial derivatives then suddenly this paragraph came out of nowhere after differentials

trail eagle
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A vector field is exactly what is given to you as $\vec{F}$

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Azyrashacorki

trail eagle
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It gives you a vector for every input (x,y,z)

teal tapir
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i haven't took anything about vector functions or vector fields

teal tapir
trail eagle
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They call it just a vector in this paragraph which it is for every input but such functions that associate to every point a vector is called a vector field.

gloomy aurora
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to sum up, vector fields output vectors

teal tapir
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i'm confused now why i'm taking this without taking vector fields before

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i barely can understand the rest now

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teal tapir
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can you explain a bit more about the gradient operator like what does it actually do when multiplying it with a function

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cause there's this paragraph right after

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Annie Maqionde

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soo like its a vector that points in the direction of the maximum (steepest) "ascent"(rate of increase) of the function

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Do you get it better?

teal tapir
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the gradf

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vector

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teal tapir
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no but for some reason i'm having trouble understanding its concept maybe because i just started multivariable calculus

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trail eagle
# teal tapir ohhh okay so if for example it we take the exponential function it's gonna point...

Well the exponential function has only one variable, so there's only two directions to pick from : left or right. But indeed, the gradient vector in this case would point to the right, which is the direction in which e^x increases.
It's more complicated for functions of multiple variables because if you're standing at a point on the graph of the function, there are lots of directions for you to move towards

The gradient tells you which direction to move towards so your function increases the quickest. You may want to choose another direction and wonder how much the function is changing in that direction, and this is what the paragraph on directional derivatives refers to.

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i think i got it

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it'll probably become way easier after i solve more problems

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i'm still doing the course

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With practice you will get it fast.

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Is my proof valid?

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nice handwriting

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You state that if $a \neq c$ and $a \neq d$, then $a, b, c, d$ must be rational squares. This is an assumption, you need to proof that.

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quadratic?

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i dont understand

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hmm

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hey crackers whats a good website to learn math and what comes after algebra 1

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are the (i) and (ii) parts correct in my proof? i mean are they valid? cause i think they are not formal enough.

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🙂

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oh ok

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hmm

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I recommend you start with: $\sqrt{a} + \sqrt{b} = \sqrt{c} + \sqrt{d}$

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Ga³¹Br³⁵I⁵³9000✞

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for the first two parts?

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how do i continue from there

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Plowing both sides squared.

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hmm

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ok ill try that

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Help

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Pleased

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is this valid? (For first two parts)

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Ga³¹Br³⁵I⁵³9000✞

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oh i forgot to mention that

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hmm thanks

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to me it looks like that's an obvious thing

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but surely there is a way to present it formally

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how do i do that

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difference of squares?

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interesting

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so i tried it

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i couldn't do it

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cant find where to use the difference of squares

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Ga³¹Br³⁵I⁵³9000✞

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how?

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oh

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Here we apply the square difference by multiplying and dividing each side by its conjugate.

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Like here: $$\frac{(\sqrt{a} - \sqrt{c})(\sqrt{a} + \sqrt{c})}{\sqrt{a} + \sqrt{c}} = \frac{(\sqrt{d} - \sqrt{b})(\sqrt{d} + \sqrt{b})}{\sqrt{d} + \sqrt{b}}$$

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yeah yeah yeah i got that

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ok ill try again

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ok

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yeah almost on the last step

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i may have them as the question is not yet finished

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i think i do but i may get stuck somewhere

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🙂

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okayy

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I proved the (ii) part

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(i) will be done similarly right?

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Thank You!

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ohh wait wait wait

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so instead of making roota - rootc = rootd - rootb from the original equation, we can make roota - rootd = rootc - rootb

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and the prove the (i) part

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right???

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yesss

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thank you so much

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but i have yet not solved the (iii) part

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yes

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ok i'll try the third part now

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still trying

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am i on the right track?

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which one?

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yeah i can

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k ill do it

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im getting $$(\sqrt{d} + \sqrt{c})(\sqrt{a} - \sqrt{b})$$

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Anshuman

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(omg i used this feature for the first time!!!)

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Then you can apply square diference.

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how

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yeah

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right

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where

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Think about that $$\sqrt{c} + \sqrt{d} = \sqrt{a} + \sqrt{b}$$

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Ga³¹Br³⁵I⁵³9000✞

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but its d c and a b? arent they different? if it wre d c and d c the i could do that

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so we get $a - b$ is a rational number right

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Anshuman

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Do you have more questions?

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so from that logic $c - d$ is also rational

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Anshuman

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but what do we do from these informations now

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when its given in the question that $a, b, c, d$ are rationals, isn't it already understood that $a - b$ and $c - d$ are rationals???

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Anshuman

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so what is the profit of doing these big calculations

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Ga³¹Br³⁵I⁵³9000✞

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This implies that $\frac{\sqrt{a}-\sqrt{b}}{\sqrt{a}+\sqrt{b}}$ is a rational number, right?

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yes it does

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Ga³¹Br³⁵I⁵³9000✞

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do we need to do the componendo dividendo thing now?

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then we directly get $\sqrt{\frac{a}{b}}$ is rational

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Anshuman

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which means $\frac{\sqrt{a}}{\sqrt{b}}$ is rational

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Anshuman

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since $\sqrt{\frac{a}{b}}$ is rational, and we know that a and b are rational:
$\implies \frac{a}{b}$ is a square of a rational

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why did i get an error

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\implies it outside of the $$

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ohh

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my bad

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Anshuman

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this, in turn, implies that, $a$ and $b$ are both are squares of rationals

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Anshuman

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which further implies that $c$ and $d$ also are squares of rationals

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Anshuman

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hence all the other fractions concerned in the original question are rationals

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am i right?

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You are right.

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okay

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ill write one final proof for you guys to check

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then ill be done

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2+2=4

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ALRIGHT IM DONE

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THIS FEELS LIKE MY LIFE'S WORK

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@raw cedar hey can you check the final proof please

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anyone else?

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Thank you soo much for explaining this problem to me step by step!

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You've shown that the product of these two numbers is rational, but that doesn't necessarily mean that each of them is rational - take a=2, b=18, c=8, d=8

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Ty.

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now that you mention it

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i need to take that into account too

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Here, you implicitly use that a-c and b-d are nonzero. You should address this edge case separately.

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hmm

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alright imma go eat so I'll leave y'all to it

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😉

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yessir

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so for the first flaw in my proof, where i forogt to take into account the edge cases, if infact, a-c and b-d are nonzero, then (i) is already satisfied

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even if one of them is zero, the other one automatically satisfies because of the (1) equation

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Let $f: \mathbb{C} \to \mathbb{C}$ be a complex-valued function defined by:
[ f(z) = \left(\frac{3}{2}\right)^z - \left(\frac{1}{2}\right)^z - z ]

The objective is to prove the existence of complex roots in the set $\mathbb{C} \setminus \mathbb{R}$.

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How do I proof this?

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if two tangents meet outside circle, their length is equal, is the converse also true?

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if they have length at all

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then they meet

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here , i know that down one is tangent, but idk about up one

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they are lines

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they don;t have length

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except if they meet, there's a distance

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if there's no second point, they just don;t have length

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i don;t know geometry no

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i know that its equal

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what i dont know is that if it is a tangent or not

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oh my god

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i got the andwer calculation

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since the original image has literally no points labelled, i'd labelled them(its much easier for helpers to help then). then BD=DE

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it's not tangent

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AD is not, tangents are gentle and sweet

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DE appears to be a tangent: there's a single point marked.

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i js thought they joined the point D to E without tangency

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ok i just realized there's some congruence for some pair of triangles that shows DE is a tangent, if im not wrong.

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cant we use the fact that equal tangents intersect

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since they are equal and intersecting , they must be tangents

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its the equivalent of what I said :D.

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The coefficient of x^70 in x ^ 2 * (1 + x) ^ 98 + x ^ 3 * (1 + x) ^ 97 + x ^ 4 * (1 + x) ^ 96 +...+x^ 54 (1+x)^ 46 is 99Cp-46Cq. Then a possible value of p + q is:

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the expression of the terms looks like $x^k(1+x)^{100-k}$ from $k = 2$ to $k = 54$

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i'm pretty sure the sum is just a geometric progression

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although I guess if it's for binomial theorem, it'll involve that

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then find the coefficent of x^70 using that formula and binomial theorem

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i didnt get it

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using this, and see what you can find

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as a hint

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how to find number of terms bro?

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use this to reduce the expression

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then find the coefficient of x^70

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bro i got the answer

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for number 10 b. I have a couple of questions regarding my attempt. I have proven continuity at $h = 0$ and I know that continuity at a point doesn't imply differentiability. So $\lim_{h\to0} Q(h) = Q(0)$ but if we have continuity at that point can I not also write it as $lim_{h+x\to h} Q(h+x) = Q(h)$. Now if that is the we can rewrite the limit as $\lim_{x\to 0} Q(h+x) = Q(h)$. We have $\lim_{x\to0} Q(h+x) = $\lim_{x\to0} Q(h)$ subtracting the left side limit and then dividing both sides by $\lim_{x\to0} 1/x$ we then have $\lim_{x\to0} \frac{Q(h+x)-Q(h)}{x} = 0*\lim{x\to0} \frac{1}{x} $. Regarding this I have two questions so the limit of 1/x as x goes to 0 does not exist but then what happens when you multiply it by 0? Also I know that the limit as x goes to 0 of Q(h) is Q(h) since it is not a function of x. But isn't h just a dummy variable could I not replace it with x and then my previous statement might not hold.

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you cannot split the limit when the limit doesn't exist

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$\lim_{x\to0} \frac{Q(h+x)-Q(h)}{x} = 0*\lim_{x\to0} \frac{1}{x}$ this step

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when the product of limits (like 0 * 1/0) is not defined, you're not allowed to make the split

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because it can give way to any limit you want (like x/x, x^2/x, x/x^2, etc...)

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Limits do NOT work like this:

\frac{\lim f(x)}{\lim g(x)} = \lim \frac{f(x)}{g(x)}

This only works if both limits exist and are finite

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You can't do so unless the product lim(a) * lim(b) makes sense

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makes no sense

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what about my second question?

sand dove
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h is a constant compared to x

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so

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you can't have "h = x"

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You're looking at continuity and differentiability at a fixed point "h"

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so you're not gonna make h vary

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• x → the variable going to 0
• h → a fixed point

So:

\lim_{x \to 0} Q(h)

means:

“take a constant value Q(h)” → result is just Q(h)

But if you replace h with x, you change the meaning completely:

\lim_{x \to 0} Q(x)

Now it’s a real limit, not a constant

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I see it now. Thanks

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Continuity → numerator → 0
• You cannot divide by \lim 1/x
• 0 \cdot \text{undefined} is undefined
• Continuity does NOT imply derivative = 0
• h is fixed, not a dummy like x

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I need ideas in 3

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What does it say, can you translate the problem to english

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We need to prove that
(3-√5)ⁿ+(3+√5)ⁿ divisible by 2ⁿ

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hm

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I have Idea but I'm not sure

rain summit
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$a^n + b^n$ is divisible by $a + b$

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1 divided by 0 equals Infinity

rain summit
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am i seeing this correctly or not tho

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I don't think it's true
Take a=2,b=3,n=2
a+b=5
a²+b²=4+9=13

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oh yea

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$u_n$ is always guaranteed an integer or smth?

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1 divided by 0 equals Infinity

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Try induction

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But first find a recurrence relation between u_n and its previous term

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it's stated in the question did they

modern lance
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What about the binomial formula

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$$
\begin{aligned}
(3+\sqrt{5})^n &= \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} , 3^{,n-k} (\sqrt{5})^k \
(3-\sqrt{5})^n &= \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} , 3^{,n-k} (-\sqrt{5})^k
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William James Moriarty

dense summit
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If we sum both of them

modern lance
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That works yes

dense summit
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That's will be 2 × the sum 0 to n
If we assume n is even

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(3+\sqrt{5})^n + (3-\sqrt{5})^n
&= \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} 3^{n-k}(\sqrt{5})^k

  • \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} 3^{n-k}(-\sqrt{5})^k \
    &= \sum_{\substack{k=0 \ k\ \text{even}}}^{n} 2 \binom{n}{k} 3^{n-k} 5^{k/2}
    \end{aligned}
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William James Moriarty

dense summit
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But that's work for 2 only not 2ⁿ

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Well you probably have to do some nasty algebraic steps

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Won't it work for 2^n with some modular arithmetic?

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Using $\sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} = 2^{n-1}$, when k is even

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Uh what

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Is that even true for all n, also how would that help

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Yes for the first question

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I'm not the op

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What I mean is the recurrence relation you're suggesting isn't sufficient

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i.e. you want to find a recurrence relation between the nth, (n+1)th and (n+2)th term

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Huh

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(I can't really verify if this hint is correct, but it does say that here)

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"Hint: [We can] Show that: [...]"

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There's probably a lot of thing going on in n choose k

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That lead to it divisible by 2^n

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Ok, thanks for clarifying

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Mb

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You already handle n choose k with that sum

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omg fuxk off

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<@&268886789983436800>

desert tree
dense summit
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What do you mean?

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Are you talking about your question in general or the sum I provided?

dense summit
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Oh, I was talking about a different sum. Your question mentioned induction so you should probably do that

dense summit
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I get the solution by different way

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I use the golden ration

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$$
3 + \sqrt{5} = 2(\phi + 1), \quad 3 - \sqrt{5} = 2(2 - \phi)
$$

$$
(3+\sqrt{5})^n + (3-\sqrt{5})^n = 2^n \big( (\phi+1)^n + (2-\phi)^n \big)
$$

woven radishBOT
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William James Moriarty

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We can use the binomial expansion here

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$$
(\phi+1)^n = \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} \phi^k 1^{,n-k} = \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} \phi^k
$$

$$
(2-\phi)^n = \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} 2^{,n-k} (-\phi)^k = \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} 2^{,n-k} (-1)^k \phi^k
$$

$$
(\phi+1)^n + (2-\phi)^n = \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} \phi^k \left( 1 + (-1)^k 2^{,n-k} \right)
$$

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William James Moriarty

modern lance
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Yeah well that just single handly solve the question

desert tree
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$$
\phi = \frac{1+\sqrt{5}}{2}, \quad \bar{\phi} = \frac{1-\sqrt{5}}{2}
$$

$$
3 + \sqrt{5} = 2(\phi + 1), \quad 3 - \sqrt{5} = 2(\bar{\phi} + 1)
$$

$$
(3+\sqrt{5})^n + (3-\sqrt{5})^n = 2^n \big( (\phi+1)^n + (\bar{\phi}+1)^n \big)
$$

$$
(\phi+1)^n + (\bar{\phi}+1)^n = \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} (\phi^k + \bar{\phi}^k)
$$

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William James Moriarty

modern lance
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Huh wait

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Just stop for a moment

dense summit
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This is the binet formula

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Where φⁿ+φ^-n is an integer

modern lance
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Well good enough ig

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I haven't verified the last step tho

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$$
(\phi+1)^n = \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} \phi^k \cdot 1^{,n-k} = \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} \phi^k
$$

$$
(\bar{\phi}+1)^n = \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} \bar{\phi}^k \cdot 1^{,n-k} = \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} \bar{\phi}^k
$$

$$
(\phi+1)^n + (\bar{\phi}+1)^n = \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} (\phi^k + \bar{\phi}^k)
$$

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William James Moriarty

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That's it

modern lance
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fascinating, yeah you solved it

dense summit
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Yeah
I think I need to know the prove of binet formula

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It's elegant

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Thanks guys

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.solved

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Well you're supposed to use induction lmao that's why you haven't taught binet formula

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Btw we ain't that helpful here tbh

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Yeah you did by yourself, good job

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If $a, b, c, d \in \mathbb{Q}$
And: $$\sqrt{a} + \sqrt{b} = \sqrt{c} + \sqrt{d}$$
And: $$(a \neq c \land b \neq d) \land (a \neq d \land b \neq c)$$
Then prove that: $$\sqrt{\frac{a}{b}}, \sqrt{\frac{a}{c}}, \sqrt{\frac{a}{d}}, \sqrt{\frac{b}{c}}, \sqrt{\frac{b}{d}}, \sqrt{\frac{c}{d}} \in \mathbb{Q}$$

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what about it

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just find examples?

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Anshuman

indigo anchor
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hey guys

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i would like to get me proof reviewed

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i mean checked

stone stump
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I dont like "by symmetry". sqrt(ac) might behave differently compared to sqrt(ab) due to signs

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but eh, probably works out

indigo anchor
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so are you letting it slip or is it actually valid?

stone stump
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assuming I knew the proof I might let it slip

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you should maybe instead write "analogously"

indigo anchor
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oh

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so the wording huh

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okay ill keep that in mind

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other than that the proof checks out right

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no errors?

stone stump
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up until that point it looks good

indigo anchor
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hmm

stone stump
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I can understand why you didnt do the other ones aswell

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I imagine its essentially identical

indigo anchor
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yes

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plus doing it 6 times is not ideal

stone stump
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at that point its a question for what audience you are writing the proof

indigo anchor
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makes sense

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actually it was a solved example in a textbook which i could not understand properly as in the textbook it was like just 3-4 lines long. so i was trying to prove it my way

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so i did and wanted to know if it checks out

stone stump
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did they do it this way or some other way

indigo anchor
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i still dont understand them tbh

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ignore the "case 1" "case 2". they were easy subparts. the question asked in this help channel was the last subpart

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this is the og question

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u there?

stone stump
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ok so they really just skipped all the work you did

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from what I see

indigo anchor
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oh

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i see

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i can see some correlation between their and my work but they just basically went "obviously, obviously, obviously, blahblah"

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anyways thanks

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can anyone translate this? i cant read it xD

silver breach
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the black font words

indigo anchor
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maybe a pharmacist could help

ocean haven
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what language is that

hollow merlin
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The first picture seems to be about the seven bridges of Konigsburg

indigo anchor
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guys

silver breach
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ohhh it says bridgeee

indigo anchor
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i know

silver breach
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i thought it was badges

hollow merlin
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It's a famous problem in graph theory

ocean haven
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it is possible to traverse each bridge only once and get back to start

woven vale
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it doesn't help that one of the words is german, does it

summary is: königsberg is four islands connected by seven bridges (purple). is it possible to traverse each bridge once & only once, and make it back to the start?

it's modelled as a graph in the second slide. an easy necessary condition is, in order to traverse a landmass (vertex), you must enter by one bridge (edge) and leave by another, different edge. (and at the start, you leave by one bridge, then enter by another)
=> every vertex must have even degree
=> assume connected

TONCAS: The Obvious Necessary Condition is also Sufficient

ocean haven
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was sorrounded by pregel river and four land masses seven bridges connectingthe land masses

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city of konisberg above that maybe

silver breach
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omg thats a w for was

woven vale
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i remember in my graph theory course, i was confused why there was a lonely $\int$ symbol - turns out it was $\gamma$

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حسیب ♥

silver breach
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yeah xD i thought i saw a integral too but it was lambda.. i miss a day and i didnt take any notes to read later

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im soryy that this is in french but i think i need a lil help in this

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how can i prove the existence of only 2 solutions

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hey im having trouble with this type of promblems

wet dirge
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i understand slope and how it's rise over run but i dont know how to compare them

versed juniper
wet dirge
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but if it like 2 over 3 compared to 3 over 5 how would i do it

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find a common denominator

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rewrite both in that common denominator

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compare numerators

wet dirge
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would i but able to multiply it to have the same denominator and choose the one with the bigger top number?

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i would choose the one with the bigger numerator?

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nevermind i got it

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thanks for the help

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close.

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opaque forum
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After integrating, I'm getting a positive answer, although the answer is negative.

opaque forum
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Where did I do wrong?

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my workflow :
xsquare = u
2x dx = du
dx = du/2
substitute

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1/2 integral(e^-u du)

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= 1/2 e^-x2

last parrot
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is this the gpt guy yesterday

opaque forum
last parrot
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so you was using AI 💀

opaque forum
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Yeah so where did I get the sign wrong

opaque forum
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Am I not allowed to? (just experimentally)

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please tell me abt the sign issue here

last parrot
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wait let me write down

winter patrol
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opaque forum
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Okay I'll remeber that

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Tysm

opaque forum
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but still got it

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then make u = -x^2

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Oh okay

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Ty

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Can someone help me with this

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I am struggling with the angles

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Between them

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Can someone help me real quick I have an exam to catch 😭🥀

chilly owl
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damn twin your cooked

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chilly owl
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why does your handwriting look so good

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how bru

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Smh

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Of assignments trained me

chilly owl
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damn

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My exam is in

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30 minutes

chilly owl
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dude

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chilly owl
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i skipper half of 7th grade and im skipping 8th grade

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im going directly to 9nth

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im cooked too

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