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yeah thats the original right
The one next to "therefore"
the (2) one? yes i understand it
The denoted with number 2 right
we are simply multiplying (1) with p^(1/3) to get (2)
correct
hmm
But how to get 3 here, you multiply equation 1 by b and subtract equation 2 multiply by c
But already know that cube root of p is irrational, right?
yes
So if a rational multiply with an irrational and add another rational = 0, then the coefficient before the irrational must be 0
Then, b^2 =ac
{(Q') x (Q) } + (Q) will always be Q' right?
ohh i get it noww
OMG HOW DID I MISS THAT
SILLY ME
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sorry i closed the channel too fast
can you continue from there
What happened
No i didnt say this
you didn't but isn't that true
It is
from equation (3), b^2 - ac MUST BE ZERO, which implies that ab - (c^2)p = 0
Read this again
i understand c^4p^2 = (ab)^2, but how is (ab)^2 = (a^3)^2?
You subs in b^2=ac
Ignore this for now
okay
Please continue
You have a^2b^2, now you subs in b^2=ac, then?
we get (a^3)c!
Now, suppose c not equal to 0
hmm
In c^3p^2 = a^3, you divide both side by c^3
Then what do you have?
You almost there
Now, take cube root both sjde
yeah we can do that too
What happen if you take cube root both side here?
we get p^(2/3) = a/c
But, p^2/3 is irrational
yeah
yeah
p?
Typo ;))
np
we should put c=0 in b^2 = ac to get b = 0
Either way but still correct
alright
but when we initially put c = 0 in (c^4)(p^2) = (a^3)c, dont we get "0 = (a^3) * 0" which is true for all values of 'a'? then how come a = 0 is definite?
Substituting b=c=0 into the original equation we have a=0
oh that works!
what does this mean
Like this one
You cant find a from here
ohh i get it
But actually it still works
yeah it does
But we havent known a c yet, dont we
oh so we need to do this bofre everything?
Correct
c is a variable tho
hmm
thank you for explaing this question to me in great detail!
now i dont have more questions anymore
thanks again!
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This is the daily ACT Question from Gohar's guide. So my questions are: what is an ampitude and a period? and how do you even do sin (opposite/hypotenuse) for that equation?
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its actually related to simple harmonic motion rather than trigonometry
no ?
mb i got a bit mixed up between general shm and sinusoidal wave it seems
the general form for this is $y = A\sin (Bx + C)$
Krish
Amplitude is defined as $|A|$
Krish
period is defined as $\frac{2\pi}{|B|}$
Krish
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thx bro
thx as well
ofc! just remember to type .close because you opened a new channel
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I need help with completing the square
is there something specific you need help with that?
just understanding it from the ground up
i have a blueprint
I do not get
which step? maybe post your progress or something
okay you know about quadratic equations right?
ok
its basically forcing a square term out of the terms you are given
so before anything , all square s are in the form of a^2 + 2ab +b^2. you can dee this for yourself when you expand (a+b)^2
lets look at x^2 + 2x
if you wanna complete the square then the a^2 term will equal the x^2 term, so a will equal x
then since we dont have a b^2 term, which we can see because we dont hsve anything without an x in the equation given, we must use the 2x which is the 2ab term
we know a equals x, so we can divide both by 2x, giving us that b equals one
so (x+1)^2 but if you expand that youll realise youve got an extra term, b^2 or 1
so you must take that away from (x+1)^2 to give tou the original equation
so x^2 + 2x in completed swuare form is (x+1)^2-1
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this is high school mission,,,
When f(1 )equal fprime(1),
and in all x>=0 real number
f(x) >=fprime(x)
how can I get minor fprime (2)?
Yes
Minimum number that x=2 I think
More try needed?
Minimum of f(2)
Yes one point on the graph is f(2) I think
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you see that $f(x) \geq f'(x)$
Minhh
but, for what type of function that its deriative would be smaller?
quick hint, this is some kind of exponential stuff
Next hint, Euler
Oh gosh
Minhh
Minhh
and smaller than the f(x)
I feel dizzy
well, we suppose $g(x) = e^{-x} f(x)$
Minhh
you find the derivatives
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nice
i'm just gonna jump in with no context but the thing that popped into my mind is that you can set up and equality case, and solve the differential equation
Minhh is right tho
My brain exposed cause I just thought about
motivation: when we want to prove that the solutions to f'(x) = f(x) are f(x) = Ce^x, this is the approach usually taken lol
this a simple differential equation, like the most basic form
But there is more higher concept to understand math
i wouldn’t say this is a diff eq, more of a diff inequality
$f(x)=f'(x)$
IdelUser404
a equation involving a function(s) and it's derivative(s)
such as the one above
1min
Example: Exponential growth differential equation
[
\frac{dy}{dx} = ky
]
General solution
[
y(x) = Ce^{kx}
]
Where:
y(x) is the unknown function
k is a constant
C is an arbitrary constant determined by initial conditions
IdelUser404
Unknown function… I see
just an example it could look every different
In my question, there is three different valuables that $f(x)$
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Can I change may nicname back?
I try more my self
Next time I want to ask formal, good question
to solve such a inequality, you want to make the general form as a formula, so like in this case, $e^x$ is itself's derivative, so it fits this perfectly, with $f(x)=f'(x)$, the result will add the constant of integration C
IdelUser404
i saw in your work you've been using polynomials, which won't work
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Is it possible to work out Pr(B) from Pr(AnB)?
Please don't give me tips as it's against university policy
Just answering the initial question would be good
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I'd need Pr(A|B)
Which is what I'm trying to work out
Wait
Or I could do:
Pr(B) = Pr(AnB)/Pr(A)
have you considered giving the answer is a big tip
I don't want you to give the answer
Tips is hints
I want someone to say if it's possible or not to work out Pr(B) from the information I have
P(B|A) = P(AnB)/P(A)
they said no tips

That won't give me Pr(B) tho
with what u have in your paper : yes
I've got 20 mins left to do it before it gets automatically handed in
left it to the last minute a bit
the procrastinator that I am
Uh oh, is this a test?
Weekly assignment
so kinda a test
is that against this server's policy as well?
I think P(S) is an independent event???
That would give you p(s)
P(anb) = p(a)p(b)
It's like a property of baye's theorem
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anyway thanks guys
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Just tryna figure out 🥀
that breaks server rules
we'll discuss it after it finishes
I'm gonna get like 80%
@lavish vale a timed assignment? Not a test is it?
That's why we aren't discussing it
my bad
I forgot
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Guys I need help with this question, this is my working so far but I don’t know what to do after this
is the question 542?
Yes
you can find x1 y1 as trig
I did, like the last step I wrote
Ohh I see, right , then I can convert the whole trig expression to be in terms of either x1 or y1
knew that : = x+y=4
I’ll try that
ye ye
Ok now I’m getting a weird mess in terms of tan and cos
I’m sure we only need to find slope of M
But idk how to here
But A does not lie on L right ?
hmm i mean there is misunderstanding here
Let the line L cut at AM, note this point be P
then you should have $x_1 = 1 + d \cos \theta = 1 + \sqrt{\frac{2}{3}} \cos \theta$
Minhh
and $y_1 = 2 + d \sin \theta = 2 + \sqrt{\frac{2}{3}} \sin \theta$
Minhh
now you subs these values in line L
Hmm I see
I’m getting
Cos + sin = root 3 by root 2
Do you know how to solve this type of equation?
Hmm divide n multiply with root 2??
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correct right there
or you make sin + cos = sin (theta + something)
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Guys why is the answer here D and not A??
Show yout work
If p and q coincide (as the circles are intersecting) wouldnt the distance between the two points become zero
are you sure they intersect?
Oh wait mbbb
first thing you should do is probably complete the squares on the equations?
Nah Idts that was required
I messed up with calculations ar the start n thought radius was 4 instrad of 2
i don't see how you're drawing such a diagram without doing so
But it's a good approach to not draw them wrong
Hmm theres just a direct formula we can use to find centres and radii so I used that
Thanks yall
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the thing is, that formula literally is gonna come from completing the square, and i don't really see the point of memorising such a thing
whatever suits you
completing the square on the equation will directly give you the centres and radii
Yes I agree, it’s just in competitive exams it’s wiser to use certain results weve already proved
Because we literally have 1 hour or less for 25 math questions depending on how fast or slow u solve other subjects
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you should try both ways. a student familiar enough with completing the square should be able to do so at about the same speed as utilizing a formula there. It would take under 10 seconds.
Completing the square is a far more useful general skill that pops up in many places.
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I totally agree with that, but memorising formulas gives a lot of ppl an extra edge (in objectives)
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can someone please help me understand this paragraph i have no idea what they're talking about i just saw a formula suddenly that came out of nowhere
they just defined it
oh i feel the notation, should be more aptly $\overrightarrow{\mathrm{rot} F}$
Annie Maqionde
so logically the vector rot has as coordinates the partial derivatives
huh
but it's partial derivatives with for no function
i mean when you calculate the determinant u'll get it eventually but what does a vector having derivative of nothing as coordinates mean
Strictly speaking, $$\nabla = \left(\frac{\partial}{\partial x}, \frac{\partial}{\partial y}, \frac{\partial}{\partial z}\right)$$ is an operator on functions. You give it a function and it spits out a vector field. This gives the usual notion of the gradient as $$\text{grad} f(x,y,z) = \nabla f(x,y,z) =\left(\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}, \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}, \frac{\partial f}{\partial z}\right).$$
From this we can define other quantities, like $\text{rot} \vec{F}(x,y,z) = \nabla \times \vec{F}(x,y,z)$, which if you remember the cross product is exactly the determinant you're calculating in that picture.
You can think rot as a vector function that takes up a vector F in its argument
Azyrashacorki
should i know what a vector field is?
actually i just started this chapter about partial derivatives then suddenly this paragraph came out of nowhere after differentials
A vector field is exactly what is given to you as $\vec{F}$
Azyrashacorki
It gives you a vector for every input (x,y,z)
i haven't took anything about vector functions or vector fields
yea i saw it it's like a 3d space full with vectors at each (x,y,z)
They call it just a vector in this paragraph which it is for every input but such functions that associate to every point a vector is called a vector field.
to sum up, vector fields output vectors
i'm confused now why i'm taking this without taking vector fields before
i barely can understand the rest now
Well they call it a vector and you can think of it as such regardless of whether you give it the name of "vector field" because it's just a vector that depends on some inputs.
oh alright
can you explain a bit more about the gradient operator like what does it actually do when multiplying it with a function
cause there's this paragraph right after
$\mathrm{grad}f = \nabla f = \left(\frac{\partial f}{\partial x},\frac{\partial f}{\partial y},\frac{\partial f}{\partial z}\right)$
Annie Maqionde
yeah i know this i meant like geometrically what does it mean
soo like its a vector that points in the direction of the maximum (steepest) "ascent"(rate of increase) of the function
i just don't like to memorize things without understanding them
It’s important to know what are you memorizing.
Do you get it better?
ohhh okay so if for example it we take the exponential function it's gonna point upwards?
the gradf
vector
yup
No, because it’s for xy no for z directions.
something to do with this thing?
Yeah.
Do you have more questions?
no but for some reason i'm having trouble understanding its concept maybe because i just started multivariable calculus
Is there a specific point that makes it harder for you to understand?
Well the exponential function has only one variable, so there's only two directions to pick from : left or right. But indeed, the gradient vector in this case would point to the right, which is the direction in which e^x increases.
It's more complicated for functions of multiple variables because if you're standing at a point on the graph of the function, there are lots of directions for you to move towards
The gradient tells you which direction to move towards so your function increases the quickest. You may want to choose another direction and wonder how much the function is changing in that direction, and this is what the paragraph on directional derivatives refers to.
Yeah, the granadient make it easier and faster.
i think i got it
it'll probably become way easier after i solve more problems
i'm still doing the course
Yeah you can do examples and if you have questions ask here.
With practice you will get it fast.
but there's one thing here idk if i got it right
we say that a vector F has a potential if the gradient of a function is equal to the vector F?
yeah hopefully there are way more paragraphs to do
Exactly.
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nice handwriting
You have a clearly schematic write.
thought u would hv said nice pfp
You state that if $a \neq c$ and $a \neq d$, then $a, b, c, d$ must be rational squares. This is an assumption, you need to proof that.
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oh. i have not heard that a lot.
oh
how do i prove it?
You can isolate a square root.
Then square both to finally regroup the rational terms. And analyze.
Square.
hmm
hey crackers whats a good website to learn math and what comes after algebra 1
are the (i) and (ii) parts correct in my proof? i mean are they valid? cause i think they are not formal enough.
you should discuss that in some other channel
Use another channel for that.
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oh ok
what do you think
Are not enough.
hmm
I recommend you start with: $\sqrt{a} + \sqrt{b} = \sqrt{c} + \sqrt{d}$
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for the first two parts?
Yeah.
how do i continue from there
You can eliminate the square roots.
Plowing both sides squared.
You can ask in other channel for help like #help-25.
I did
Oh, I see, let me see your problem.
Is so good but you go from $a+b=c+d$ and $ab=cd$ directly to ${a=c \wedge b=d} \vee {a=d \wedge b=c}$. Although it is true, you must explain why.
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oh i forgot to mention that
Np, it's normal.
hmm thanks
to me it looks like that's an obvious thing
but surely there is a way to present it formally
how do i do that
?
You can use the difference of squares.
Yeah, try it.
We can divide in 2 the original equation and have this: $$\sqrt{a} - \sqrt{c} = \sqrt{d} - \sqrt{b}$$
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Here we apply the square difference by multiplying and dividing each side by its conjugate.
Like here: $$\frac{(\sqrt{a} - \sqrt{c})(\sqrt{a} + \sqrt{c})}{\sqrt{a} + \sqrt{c}} = \frac{(\sqrt{d} - \sqrt{b})(\sqrt{d} + \sqrt{b})}{\sqrt{d} + \sqrt{b}}$$
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Try it.
ok
You could?
yeah almost on the last step
Ok, do you have more questions?
i may have them as the question is not yet finished
Ok, do you know how to continue?
i think i do but i may get stuck somewhere
Np, continue and if you get stuck send here where and I can help you.
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Good!
Thank You!
Yeah, try it.
ohh wait wait wait
so instead of making roota - rootc = rootd - rootb from the original equation, we can make roota - rootd = rootc - rootb
and the prove the (i) part
right???
Right, you get it.
You-re welcome.
but i have yet not solved the (iii) part
Yes, you need to solve that to finish.
Try it.
You could?
still trying
Ok, try, take your time.
am i on the right track?
Yeah, but you can factorise the expression, right?
which one?
$$\sqrt{ad} + \sqrt{ac} - \sqrt{bd} - \sqrt{bc} \in \mathbb{Q}$$
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im getting $$(\sqrt{d} + \sqrt{c})(\sqrt{a} - \sqrt{b})$$
Anshuman
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how
Remeber $a^2 - b^2 = (a + b)(a − b)$
Use that.
where
Think about that $$\sqrt{c} + \sqrt{d} = \sqrt{a} + \sqrt{b}$$
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but its d c and a b? arent they different? if it wre d c and d c the i could do that
Anshuman
so from that logic $c - d$ is also rational
Anshuman
but what do we do from these informations now
when its given in the question that $a, b, c, d$ are rationals, isn't it already understood that $a - b$ and $c - d$ are rationals???
Anshuman
so what is the profit of doing these big calculations
Proving that $ab$ is rational is trivial. The importance of the expression $(\sqrt{a}-\sqrt{b})(\sqrt{a}+\sqrt{b}) = R$.
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This implies that $\frac{\sqrt{a}-\sqrt{b}}{\sqrt{a}+\sqrt{b}}$ is a rational number, right?
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yes it does
If we have :
$\sqrt{a}-\sqrt{b} = k(\sqrt{a}+\sqrt{b}) \implies \sqrt{a}(1-k) = \sqrt{b}(1+k)$
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do we need to do the componendo dividendo thing now?
i dont understand this
Yes, use it, it-s the faster way.
then we directly get $\sqrt{\frac{a}{b}}$ is rational
Anshuman
which means $\frac{\sqrt{a}}{\sqrt{b}}$ is rational
Anshuman
since $\sqrt{\frac{a}{b}}$ is rational, and we know that a and b are rational:
$\implies \frac{a}{b}$ is a square of a rational
why did i get an error
\implies it outside of the $$
Anshuman
this, in turn, implies that, $a$ and $b$ are both are squares of rationals
Anshuman
which further implies that $c$ and $d$ also are squares of rationals
Anshuman
hence all the other fractions concerned in the original question are rationals
am i right?

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2+2=4
thanks for telling
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ALRIGHT IM DONE
THIS FEELS LIKE MY LIFE'S WORK
@raw cedar hey can you check the final proof please
anyone else?
Correct!
Thank you soo much for explaining this problem to me step by step!
You are welcome.
Do you have more questions?
You've shown that the product of these two numbers is rational, but that doesn't necessarily mean that each of them is rational - take a=2, b=18, c=8, d=8
Oh, yeah. I didn't see that.
Ty.
Here, you implicitly use that a-c and b-d are nonzero. You should address this edge case separately.
hmm
yessir
so for the first flaw in my proof, where i forogt to take into account the edge cases, if infact, a-c and b-d are nonzero, then (i) is already satisfied
even if one of them is zero, the other one automatically satisfies because of the (1) equation
enjoy
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im struggling how to draw this
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Let $f: \mathbb{C} \to \mathbb{C}$ be a complex-valued function defined by:
[ f(z) = \left(\frac{3}{2}\right)^z - \left(\frac{1}{2}\right)^z - z ]
The objective is to prove the existence of complex roots in the set $\mathbb{C} \setminus \mathbb{R}$.
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How do I proof this?
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if two tangents meet outside circle, their length is equal, is the converse also true?

If two tangents lenghts are equal, they need not necessarily meet
Correct, it’s not necessary.
here , i know that down one is tangent, but idk about up one
they are lines
they don;t have length
except if they meet, there's a distance
if there's no second point, they just don;t have length
i don;t know geometry no
this is the question basically
i know that its equal
what i dont know is that if it is a tangent or not
since the original image has literally no points labelled, i'd labelled them(its much easier for helpers to help then). then BD=DE
it's not tangent

i got it, how did the guy take it to be a tangent
AD is not, tangents are gentle and sweet
i know that BD=DE , cuz they are radii of same circle
what i dont know is that if DE is a tangent or not
DE appears to be a tangent: there's a single point marked.
i js thought they joined the point D to E without tangency
ok i just realized there's some congruence for some pair of triangles that shows DE is a tangent, if im not wrong.
cant we use the fact that equal tangents intersect
since they are equal and intersecting , they must be tangents
its the equivalent of what I said :D.
that requires certain justification, though.
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The coefficient of x^70 in x ^ 2 * (1 + x) ^ 98 + x ^ 3 * (1 + x) ^ 97 + x ^ 4 * (1 + x) ^ 96 +...+x^ 54 (1+x)^ 46 is 99Cp-46Cq. Then a possible value of p + q is:
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the expression of the terms looks like $x^k(1+x)^{100-k}$ from $k = 2$ to $k = 54$
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i'm pretty sure the sum is just a geometric progression
nope, got this question from binomial theorem chapter
hmm, the common ratio $\frac{x}{1+x}$ works here no?
MxRgD
although I guess if it's for binomial theorem, it'll involve that
please can u solve it until u get final answer?
I was thinking you can reduce the sum into a formula since its just a geometric progression
then find the coefficent of x^70 using that formula and binomial theorem
i didnt get it
Just try reduce the sum
using this, and see what you can find
as a hint
how to find number of terms bro?
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for number 10 b. I have a couple of questions regarding my attempt. I have proven continuity at $h = 0$ and I know that continuity at a point doesn't imply differentiability. So $\lim_{h\to0} Q(h) = Q(0)$ but if we have continuity at that point can I not also write it as $lim_{h+x\to h} Q(h+x) = Q(h)$. Now if that is the we can rewrite the limit as $\lim_{x\to 0} Q(h+x) = Q(h)$. We have $\lim_{x\to0} Q(h+x) = $\lim_{x\to0} Q(h)$ subtracting the left side limit and then dividing both sides by $\lim_{x\to0} 1/x$ we then have $\lim_{x\to0} \frac{Q(h+x)-Q(h)}{x} = 0*\lim{x\to0} \frac{1}{x} $. Regarding this I have two questions so the limit of 1/x as x goes to 0 does not exist but then what happens when you multiply it by 0? Also I know that the limit as x goes to 0 of Q(h) is Q(h) since it is not a function of x. But isn't h just a dummy variable could I not replace it with x and then my previous statement might not hold.
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you cannot split the limit when the limit doesn't exist
$\lim_{x\to0} \frac{Q(h+x)-Q(h)}{x} = 0*\lim_{x\to0} \frac{1}{x}$ this step
bloubbloub
when the product of limits (like 0 * 1/0) is not defined, you're not allowed to make the split
because it can give way to any limit you want (like x/x, x^2/x, x/x^2, etc...)
by split you mean that I can't multiply it on both sides
Limits do NOT work like this:
\frac{\lim f(x)}{\lim g(x)} = \lim \frac{f(x)}{g(x)}
This only works if both limits exist and are finite
by split we mean transforming lim(a * b) into lim(a) * lim(b)
You can't do so unless the product lim(a) * lim(b) makes sense
what about my second question?
h is a constant compared to x
so
you can't have "h = x"
You're looking at continuity and differentiability at a fixed point "h"
so you're not gonna make h vary
• x → the variable going to 0
• h → a fixed point
So:
\lim_{x \to 0} Q(h)
means:
“take a constant value Q(h)” → result is just Q(h)
But if you replace h with x, you change the meaning completely:
\lim_{x \to 0} Q(x)
Now it’s a real limit, not a constant
I see it now. Thanks
Continuity → numerator → 0
• You cannot divide by \lim 1/x
• 0 \cdot \text{undefined} is undefined
• Continuity does NOT imply derivative = 0
• h is fixed, not a dummy like x
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I need ideas in 3
What does it say, can you translate the problem to english
We need to prove that
(3-√5)ⁿ+(3+√5)ⁿ divisible by 2ⁿ
hm
I have Idea but I'm not sure
$a^n + b^n$ is divisible by $a + b$
1 divided by 0 equals Infinity
am i seeing this correctly or not tho
I don't think it's true
Take a=2,b=3,n=2
a+b=5
a²+b²=4+9=13
1 divided by 0 equals Infinity
Try induction
But first find a recurrence relation between u_n and its previous term
it's stated in the question did they
Yes it always is
did you use the hint
What about the binomial formula
$$
\begin{aligned}
(3+\sqrt{5})^n &= \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} , 3^{,n-k} (\sqrt{5})^k \
(3-\sqrt{5})^n &= \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} , 3^{,n-k} (-\sqrt{5})^k
\end{aligned}
$$
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If we sum both of them
That works yes
That's will be 2 × the sum 0 to n
If we assume n is even
$$
\begin{aligned}
(3+\sqrt{5})^n + (3-\sqrt{5})^n
&= \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} 3^{n-k}(\sqrt{5})^k
- \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} 3^{n-k}(-\sqrt{5})^k \
&= \sum_{\substack{k=0 \ k\ \text{even}}}^{n} 2 \binom{n}{k} 3^{n-k} 5^{k/2}
\end{aligned}
$$
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But that's work for 2 only not 2ⁿ
Well you probably have to do some nasty algebraic steps
Won't it work for 2^n with some modular arithmetic?
Using $\sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} = 2^{n-1}$, when k is even
Sarin
Yes for the first question
The hint suggests you want to do a stepped induction fyi
I'm not the op
What I mean is the recurrence relation you're suggesting isn't sufficient
i.e. you want to find a recurrence relation between the nth, (n+1)th and (n+2)th term
Huh
(I can't really verify if this hint is correct, but it does say that here)
"Hint: [We can] Show that: [...]"
3 and 5 are both 1 mod 2 so the sum becomes the sum of binomial coefficents mod 2. I don't know too much about modular arithmetic though and could be wrong
Oh I meant terms
That only useful for mod 2, but we need to show it's 0 mod 2^n
There's probably a lot of thing going on in n choose k
That lead to it divisible by 2^n
Ok, thanks for clarifying
This is not right
I verify that
The right is u_(n+2)=6u_(n+1)-4u_n
I'll try with that by induction
Wait ykw, that works yeah
Mb
You already handle n choose k with that sum
I forgot this
Also if you were wondering, you can prove this using the expansions of (1+x)^n and (1-x)^n
I try to get a relation but it don't work
Taylor series?
omg fuxk off
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No just binomial expansion
I do that but It don't works
What do you mean?
Are you talking about your question in general or the sum I provided?
The sum
This sum
Oh, I was talking about a different sum. Your question mentioned induction so you should probably do that
I get the solution by different way
I use the golden ration
$$
3 + \sqrt{5} = 2(\phi + 1), \quad 3 - \sqrt{5} = 2(2 - \phi)
$$
$$
(3+\sqrt{5})^n + (3-\sqrt{5})^n = 2^n \big( (\phi+1)^n + (2-\phi)^n \big)
$$
William James Moriarty
We can use the binomial expansion here
$$
(\phi+1)^n = \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} \phi^k 1^{,n-k} = \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} \phi^k
$$
$$
(2-\phi)^n = \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} 2^{,n-k} (-\phi)^k = \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} 2^{,n-k} (-1)^k \phi^k
$$
$$
(\phi+1)^n + (2-\phi)^n = \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} \phi^k \left( 1 + (-1)^k 2^{,n-k} \right)
$$
William James Moriarty
Yeah well that just single handly solve the question
Don't you have to prove that this is an integer?
Yeah That's don't work
$$
\phi = \frac{1+\sqrt{5}}{2}, \quad \bar{\phi} = \frac{1-\sqrt{5}}{2}
$$
$$
3 + \sqrt{5} = 2(\phi + 1), \quad 3 - \sqrt{5} = 2(\bar{\phi} + 1)
$$
$$
(3+\sqrt{5})^n + (3-\sqrt{5})^n = 2^n \big( (\phi+1)^n + (\bar{\phi}+1)^n \big)
$$
$$
(\phi+1)^n + (\bar{\phi}+1)^n = \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} (\phi^k + \bar{\phi}^k)
$$
William James Moriarty
$$
(\phi+1)^n = \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} \phi^k \cdot 1^{,n-k} = \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} \phi^k
$$
$$
(\bar{\phi}+1)^n = \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} \bar{\phi}^k \cdot 1^{,n-k} = \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} \bar{\phi}^k
$$
$$
(\phi+1)^n + (\bar{\phi}+1)^n = \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} (\phi^k + \bar{\phi}^k)
$$
William James Moriarty
That's it
fascinating, yeah you solved it
Yeah
I think I need to know the prove of binet formula
It's elegant
Thanks guys
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Well you're supposed to use induction lmao that's why you haven't taught binet formula
Btw we ain't that helpful here tbh
Yeah you did by yourself, good job
Yes I need use the induction but it's boring
I'll try to solve it also by induction
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If $a, b, c, d \in \mathbb{Q}$
And: $$\sqrt{a} + \sqrt{b} = \sqrt{c} + \sqrt{d}$$
And: $$(a \neq c \land b \neq d) \land (a \neq d \land b \neq c)$$
Then prove that: $$\sqrt{\frac{a}{b}}, \sqrt{\frac{a}{c}}, \sqrt{\frac{a}{d}}, \sqrt{\frac{b}{c}}, \sqrt{\frac{b}{d}}, \sqrt{\frac{c}{d}} \in \mathbb{Q}$$
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I dont like "by symmetry". sqrt(ac) might behave differently compared to sqrt(ab) due to signs
but eh, probably works out
so are you letting it slip or is it actually valid?
assuming I knew the proof I might let it slip
you should maybe instead write "analogously"
oh
so the wording huh
okay ill keep that in mind
other than that the proof checks out right
no errors?
up until that point it looks good
hmm
I can understand why you didnt do the other ones aswell
I imagine its essentially identical
at that point its a question for what audience you are writing the proof
makes sense
actually it was a solved example in a textbook which i could not understand properly as in the textbook it was like just 3-4 lines long. so i was trying to prove it my way
so i did and wanted to know if it checks out
did they do it this way or some other way
i still dont understand them tbh
ignore the "case 1" "case 2". they were easy subparts. the question asked in this help channel was the last subpart
this is the og question
u there?
oh
i see
i can see some correlation between their and my work but they just basically went "obviously, obviously, obviously, blahblah"
anyways thanks
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can anyone translate this? i cant read it xD
the black font words
maybe a pharmacist could help
what language is that
The first picture seems to be about the seven bridges of Konigsburg
guys
ohhh it says bridgeee
i know
i thought it was badges
It's a famous problem in graph theory
it is possible to traverse each bridge only once and get back to start
it doesn't help that one of the words is german, does it
summary is: königsberg is four islands connected by seven bridges (purple). is it possible to traverse each bridge once & only once, and make it back to the start?
it's modelled as a graph in the second slide. an easy necessary condition is, in order to traverse a landmass (vertex), you must enter by one bridge (edge) and leave by another, different edge. (and at the start, you leave by one bridge, then enter by another)
=> every vertex must have even degree
=> assume connected
TONCAS: The Obvious Necessary Condition is also Sufficient
was sorrounded by pregel river and four land masses seven bridges connectingthe land masses
city of konisberg above that maybe
omg thats a w for was
THANK YOU THAT MAKE SENSE
no problem! unfortunately, graph theory professors are Just Like That when it comes to bad handwriting
i remember in my graph theory course, i was confused why there was a lonely $\int$ symbol - turns out it was $\gamma$
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yeah xD i thought i saw a integral too but it was lambda.. i miss a day and i didnt take any notes to read later
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im soryy that this is in french but i think i need a lil help in this
how can i prove the existence of only 2 solutions
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hey im having trouble with this type of promblems
i understand slope and how it's rise over run but i dont know how to compare them
whatevers bigger grows faster
but if it like 2 over 3 compared to 3 over 5 how would i do it
they're just fractions
find a common denominator
rewrite both in that common denominator
compare numerators
would i but able to multiply it to have the same denominator and choose the one with the bigger top number?
i would choose the one with the bigger numerator?
nevermind i got it
thanks for the help
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After integrating, I'm getting a positive answer, although the answer is negative.
Where did I do wrong?
my workflow :
xsquare = u
2x dx = du
dx = du/2
substitute
1/2 integral(e^-u du)
= 1/2 e^-x2
is this the gpt guy yesterday
That was gemini
so you was using AI 💀
Yeah so where did I get the sign wrong
Not to solve it or smthg I was spectating
Am I not allowed to? (just experimentally)
please tell me abt the sign issue here
wait let me write down
not allowed to use it for others,
not allowed to represent it as your own work
are allowed to use it for yourself although we advise against that
the integral of e^-u is -e^-u
Didnt try to show it as my own either, it was clearly ai
but still got it
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should make e^x^2 be e^-x^2 first
then make u = -x^2
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Can someone help me with this
I am struggling with the angles
Between them
Can someone help me real quick I have an exam to catch 😭🥀
damn twin your cooked
💔 this is the hardest at most which will come
💔 yk the torture
Smh
Of assignments trained me
damn
dude
u hv the gradient right
i skipper half of 7th grade and im skipping 8th grade
im going directly to 9nth
im cooked too
Yes
Oh it’s the 10 th grade
