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and how would we know this without being able to draw the graph
Try and spot the fact that it’s an odd function and and it’s going from -3 to 3
so
so is it -2 becus theres 2 areas
why not just do it from 3 to -3 and then 0 to 3
like this
So, this is flipped along the y-axis for some reason
Oh sorry yes
But essentially, you're not tasked with the integral between -3 to 3
It’s should be going up
idk why it's been presented like that
You're tasked with finding the bounded area the function makes in that domain
For starters it's a pretty simple function to graph
Secondly, the right-region will have a negative integral, so we need to negate THIS integral if we wanted the area it makes with the x-axis
ok
yh I'm saying this part isn't well written - this integral is zero lol
equal to 0?
ye
becus its symmetric about the origin
Just to check - do you know what it means to say a function f is an odd/even function?
yh
cool
this function is odd=symmetric
Then the graph is rotationally symmetric here about the origin - so the two areas are equal
But if you were to integrate over the related domains for each, one would be positive and the other would be negative
So if you rawly integrated over the whole [-3,3], they'd cancel
so take the absolute value?
Of the integrand, yes
(in practice, I'd just go straight to the bit after this equals sign btw)
ye
so
becus the graph is symmetric
it would be 2 of these
no
it would be 2 about the origin
If you really wanted, you could even just write this as
$$\int_{-3}^0 x^3 - 9x \dd x - \int_{0}^3 x^3 - 9x \dd x$$
Waes (Wires)
yeah i think i prefer that way
[It just so happens that since this integrand is an odd function, that this sum is equal to:]
Waes (Wires)
how does it turn into that
so the graph is symmetric so the interval [-3, 0] is the mirror of [0,3]
The graph is a really useful aid to see this, if graphed properly
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Could someone please help me with problem 3?
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Someone pls help me to solve
Find all prime triplets (p ,q ,r)
Such that
pq=r+1 and 2(p²+q²) = r²+1
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where did you get this problem?
A book
You need answer
Ah yes
I am not able to solve this
Pls help
You just want answer or explanation with it as well
!nosols, just in case
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Cause I have answer just quick thinking
alright
Give the soln also
I will understand by myself
okay
Also I would like to see handwritten soln
You have two triples of numbers:
(p, q, r) = (2, 3, 5)
(q, p, r) = (3, 2, 5)
These two look almost the same except that p and q are swapped.
Why call them symmetric?
Yes p and q are symmetric
But why
We can interchange them and the eqn remains same
Precisely
How did you solved it
???
So fast
Zeta function
no no no, I just sending you the texting version
Jk
I actually cant
Send the proving pls
What ???
Why 😂😂😂
Do you see the plus sign
Did you gave permission
but then nothing happens
Oh
Yes it worked like weeks ago
Yeah so ima try fixing computer
and if nothing happens screw ti and im buying a new one
Ok just tell what approach should i use
Alright
lemme cook
okay im back
Use the method:
1)Substitute r=pq−1 from the first equation into the second.
2)Simplify to a Diophantine equation in p and q.
3)Treat the result as a quadratic in one variable, and check when the discriminant is a perfect square.
4)Test small primes; for larger primes the discriminant fails to be a square, giving no solutions.
In my opinion
I feel like #1 would be easiest
Ok
Because that is what the third grade asian kid did to solve the equation in his head
Anyways
If that is all, im glad to help someone out
Thnks
@lunar haven ok
Have a good day!
how much ai went into this on a scale of 1-10
Can you please send only one problem at a time
bro CHAT GPT IS BLOCKED
Not blcoked
but my computer broken
Barely anything works
also, it says find all solutions, not just one (2,3,5)
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integrate (xdx)/((sqrt(1+x^2+sqrt((1+x^2)^3)))
$\displaystyle \int \frac{x}{\sqrt{1+x^2+\sqrt{\left(1+x^2\right)^3}}} \dd{x}$
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yup
uh
u sub maybe
@flat ibex do you want this? If so, I'll let you take it from me since two people helping at the same time is generally bad
uh sure
k
fyi you forgot the da at the end
rewrite the radicals as exponents
hm
u got me rethinking if i knew math at all 🥀
@flat ibex
ya
got it thanks
now just sub back
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oh my bad
$\int \frac{\sin^8 (x)+\cos^8 (x)}{1-2\sin^2 (x) \cos^2 (x)} dx$
Ishmam
the bottom part is equal to $\sin^4 x + \cos^4 x$
Ishmam
how
thats where im getting confused over and over
other than that i got the question
(sin2 x + cos2 x)^2 = 1
you can check for yourself by applying square formulas
uh sin(2x) or sin^2(x)
$a^2+b^2=(a+b)^2-2ab$
Ishmam
squared
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Could I please have help on part b?
say f=sum a_i x^i and g=sum b_i x^i where g is in I
what can you say about the a_i and b_i?
take h=sum c_i x^i in R arbitrary
can you build h using f and some polynomials from I ?
Can we just add f and g?
They don’t have a constant so you can factor an x out
Wait so I can have g(x) = g(0) + xh(x)
What do the units in ℝ[x] look like
They’re constant terms
Good
So if you can produce a constant term in J you are done
(do you understand why)
If I can produce a unit then there exists its multiplicative inverse?
So then I just multiply them together to get 1?
That doesn't exactly help here
Oh then I’m not sure
Ideals aren't closed under multiplicative inverse technically
I mean they are but it's a circular argument
Oh yea
Oh what
c?
Oh alright
And once you have 1 you have everything
So our goal here is to produce a unit
Yea this is just property of an ideal right?
Yes
c is in the ideal, c^-1 is in the ring
What does a polynomial not in I look like
f(0) !=0
I mean yea but what does the polynomial itself look like
As a hint, what does a polynomial in I look like
Oh u can have a constant, so have it such that it’s of this form
A polynomial in I looks like g(x) = sum a_i x^i
but a polynomial not in I
h(x) = constant + sum b_j x^j
Ranging over what values of i
Yep
That wasn't a yes no question
Oh lol I thought u said ranging over values of x
I mean from 0 to inf?
No
Wait yes
No
Firstly a polynomial is by definition a finite number of terms
Yeah so i ranges from 0 to some n
Anyway now take some polynomial that isn't in I
Wait but if it range from 0 to n then x^0 would give a constant which u can’t have in I?
Oh shit sorry I meant 1 to n
Lmao
Yea alright that makes sense
^^
It looks like $\sum_{i=0}^n a_i x^i, a_0 \neq 0$
Yes
it will be a_0 plus smth in I
Xavier 🌺
Alright
Good
So since J is an ideal it is closed under addition and subtraction
So that means this is in J?
We assume that it is in J
Okay let me clear the steps here
- Assume there is an ideal J that contains I as a proper subset
- Pick a random element in J that isn't in I (why can we do this?)
- Produce a unit
- we can do it because I is a proper subset of J
Yup
Alright so when u say produce a unit, that unit in out case is a_0
How does that show that 1 is in J?
Yes
Same argument as before
a_0 is in J
a_0 has an inverse in R
Oh and since J is an ideal
Yes
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<@&286206848099549185> guys wanna see my today algebra paper?
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@rare wagon what is your problem?
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like fr
The mcq
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Today that is my paper
Not only did you do it once, but you did it again after I told you you shouldn't
you need help exactly on what?
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I'm only going to show as much effort as you have, so if you don't even make an effort to reply or show why you've selected certain answers... yeah.
It looks like these are problems from a textbook. I would suggest reading through the text.
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help
do you know the formula of surface integeral?
yes do you want me to send a picture of the formula
i haven’t done anything for this problem i’m just stuck not knowing what to do
send the picture of formula that u know
it’s the a = double integral one
yes
yes but there is one more form of that formula
there is?
this is for surface
that one is for a para meter surface
lemme pull it up for you
on min
one
ok
ok i see
yeah
so one we find partial diff of the parameter give wrt to eavh variable here alpha and beta
so i partial derive alpha and beta?
so if i did that i would get what ? cause am i deriveing it from the r(a,b) = ( a+b) or the top where it says a^2?
like where do i start the problem
in your formula there are partial derivatives
the at the D= or the r(a,B) =
oh that D is jut=st specifying the boundary
like u have a parameter it is just telling where to start and stop
we start from r(a,b)
yea and in the problem btw that less than or equal to the one is supposed to be a zero
it cant be
squares are positive always, so if they are less than 0 the alpha=0 and beta=0
idk that just what my professor said
nope i think u heard wrong
did u partially diff the whole thing with alpha and beta?
u wrote less than equal to 0
oh i see now
yea
yea do it and plug it in the formula u wrote
so it would be 1,1,b and 1,-1,a
so it is right?
yes\
sorry
hello, ghost?
okay
(a+B)i + (B-a)j + (-2)k
yes its magnitude is?
root 2(a^2 +B^2 +2)
yes
now they said its a quater disk
did you ever change variables in r cosx AND r sinx?
for polar coordiantes
i have like once its very confusing to do that
a min ill send u a pic
ok
yea exactly
is it r cosx or r cos theta
and dA as?
same thing any varible for angle
thake thetha tho
root 2(r^2 +2)
no
that thing will become that only
idk what dA would become then
ok i see now
double integral root 2(r^2 +2) r dr d theta
0 to 1
and thetha limits?
ok yes
yes
yes im working on that
ok so what do now
put r instead of 1
wait so i cant integrate it cause the bound is 0 to r
i mean R
so what do i do now
take R as a constant
ok can you show me what i would do
so i plug in R for r?
yes
meamns?
idk what the means tbh like does it mean i cant finsih the surface area
it means it gives the equation of surface area of a R radius quater disk
is the exam subjective?
what do you mean by subjective
i maean are all answers numerical
?
or some are in form of equation too?
all are numberical i believe i havent had one not as a number yet
ok first integerate
once we get ourl equation we can think what values can r take and plug in accordingly
ok well check and see if this surface area is right A = pi/6 ( 3 root 6 - 4)
yes
did u get
?
flux is (vector field).(normal)
we have vector field in ques
and u found normal vector, befre magnitude
dot them up
subs r cos thetha and r sin thetha
same limits and integerate
yes
👍
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Hey there
How do I interact with these exponents?
I know that if they were saying -1, I'd just have to flip the thing upside down
But what about these
Do you know what is $2^{-1}$ equivalent to in the first place?
Entitled Scumbag
Hi helpful
Wish I can become one someday 😔
How about $(\frac12)^{-1}$
Entitled Scumbag
1/0,5?
Can it be simplified further?
1×2?
Right
So this is how it works, if the exponent is negative, we swap the denominator and the numerator
So far so good?
Yep
Here’s an example
$2^{-2} = (\frac12)^2$
Entitled Scumbag
Why does it work this way btw?
If I weren’t mistaken, that’s how they are defined
But lemme double check it rq
okay, I’ve found a good way to explain this
Let’s take
$2^4$ as $2\times 2\times 2\times 2$
Entitled Scumbag
Do you agree with this?
So the exponent mean how many times should we times
When it’s “negative”, that means we have to “take away” instead of adding up
So it becomes division?
For example
$2^{-4} = 1\div 2\div 2\div 2\div 2$
Entitled Scumbag
Yes
Hm
Where did that 1 come from?
$1\times 2^{-4} = 1\div 2\div 2\div 2\div 2$
Entitled Scumbag
yeah, cuz you need to put something before the division sign
So the 1 cannot be omitted on RHS
Why do we change the symbol for 1? 1 isn't a part of 2^-4
Well, we didn't change the sign for the 1
But we changed the action
Why not just 2^-4 = 2 : 2 : 2 : 2?
Ah I see what you mean
By this logic, what would be 2^(-1)
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Let me clarify it real quick
Thanks!
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Thanky :)))
Let’s take
$1\times 2^4$ as $1\times 2\times 2\times 2\times 2$
I understand that
Because it wouldn't change anything
Entitled Scumbag
2 = 1 x 2
yep
-2 = -1 x 2
Well to be honest, $\left(\frac{1}{3}\right)^{-3}$ kinda doesn’t make sense in this way
frosst
Division is a sham and doesn’t really exist
What it’s really saying is $\left(\left(\frac{1}{3}\right)^{-1}\right)^{3}$
frosst
First you look at the multiplicative inverse of 1/3, then multiply that with itself 3 times
The multiplicative inverse of 1/3 is the number when you multiply with 1/3, yields 1 (here it will be 3)
So then it becomes 3³ which is 27
So
This = 3/1³ = 3³ = 27?
Why
But you can just say the inverse of 1/3 is 3
Look at what I wrote the ^3 is on the outside of the 2nd bracket
So if the brackets weren't there people would be like "oh it's actually 3/1x1x1"?
Yes
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im lost on what exactly we're doing after we note that H5 and H2 are cyclic
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hi i need help finding the derivative
im aware that i take the 6 and move it up front causing there to be 6 times 5 sin^5 (4x)
and then i take the derivative of sin (4x) which is cos (4x) times 4
and i then have
30 cos^5(4x)
oops
forgot to multiply by 4
so 120 cos^5 (4x)
im not sure what i did wrong
chain rule
if $h(x) = f(g(x))$ then $h'(x) = f'(g(x)) \cdot g(x)$
1 divided by 0 equals Infinity
so for $\sin{4x}$ first
1 divided by 0 equals Infinity
then $5\sin^6(4x)$
1 divided by 0 equals Infinity
chain rule on this first
f=g•h•k, k(x)=4x, g(x)=5x, h is of the form p^n, use induction to find (p^n)’
((p^n(x))’=p’(p^(n-1)(x))(p^(n-1)(x)’, so you see it will be a factorial ish product in the end)
mb im fresh off bio
going back and doing these for the finals is frying me
idk how i forgot this stuff
thank you guys tho
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asking for help again for these questions since i forgot about my last ticket 😭
i don't really know where to start
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which one is it?
okay what have you tried in 15. ?
my math teacher said to find corresponding height and base for each triangle
Alright, so what all sides have you found?
i can't find any ough
okay so we know AC and CF to start with, what should AF be?
Basically, first of all you have to write in sequence, the corners, which correspond. Like in 16th, in triangle ABE and triangle FAC , A=A, E=F, B=C... Therefore, triangle(AEB) ~ triangle(AFC) .. Once you get to this, you can safely write, AE/AF = AC/AB.. Or any possible combination accordingly .. Hope it helps
hmmm i see
TBH a combination of yours and mine method would be the fastest
okay first find AF
Instead of wondering what to find, just start finding anything you can
especially in geometry
i got af = 4.47214 cm?
sqrt(20), yes
okay, now prove similarity between triangle(AEB) and triangle(AFC) like mate here said
similarity?
wait do you know about similarity and congruency yet?
i don't think so 
ahhhhh
wait, how old are you
i acc think i learned it b4 but forgot the terms 
im in 9th grade but haven't started math yet since my school has a semester system
this is extracurricular stuff
oof
So can you use it here, we can't use it if you've never studied it before
I didn't know this, sorry for the friend request I sent you
OH i just looked it up and i remember it now
oh no worries lol 
similarity is same shape diff size
Are you sure, we can use another method if you're not supposed to use similarity, it'd be a bit longer
no its ok 👍
lemme do that rq
sure (Hint:VOA and right)
wait nvm im rusty 😭
Alright, so do I help you here with it or the other method?
with the similarity method please
sure
Okay so one method we use for similarity is the AAA method (or simply AA method)
where we prove that the angles are equal
when we've proved that 2 angles are equal, we can say that the triangles are similar
So tell me, which angles in these two triangles are equal?
is there like,, a difference between congruent and equal? 
so that's one pair, with our reasoning being that they are both right angles
its all about congruent and similar
congruent might refer to something else
yes
No they're asking about the right angles being equal or congruent
there ig equal would be more appropriate
Ohh okay
yes
I thought its about triangles being equal, nevermind
yes, write (right angles) next to it
now are you aware of Vertically Opposite Angles?
ya, these
yes
so do i have to prove those as equal as well?
No you can simply write a=b {vertically opposite angles}
I mean you just have to identify angles that are like this and write "Vertically Opposite Angles" in brackets next to it
ahhh uhuh
ok

ok so we have the vertically opposite angles and the right angles?
ÂEB and ÂFC?
No, those were right angles
which two angles in those two triangles look like this
indicating angle A
I see, okay then
So we have two angles that are equal, hence the two triangles are similar
yay
now which two pairs of sides do we use for this?
The left side and the right side
Sorry but the question was meant for op
What does op mean
Redditor?
the person who asked the question basically
Oop sorry
me 
Nope, just acquired it from here
oh alryt
Ok can somebody teach me how fractions work
you can open a new channel for that
that's not how you ask, go to an available channel
Dude
Who do u think u are
means original poster i think, anyways is it sides eb and fc?
Whatever it is, kindly do not fill someone else's help channel with slop
son 😭😭 ur like supposed to ask ur question in like https://discord.com/channels/268882317391429632/359052604149465088 ig
its free atm
Shut up
<@&268886789983436800> disrupting someone else's help channel with bs
busy but I muted for a while
Alright thanks mate
okay, let's continue
which two pairs of sides do we use here?
uhhhhh eb and fc?
Not like that
okay see
if any two triangles ABC ~ DEF, then AB/DE = BC/EF
so ratios of any two corresponding pair of sides are equal
yup
Okay, so which two pairs do we use (Hint : try to use the ones that includes the side we're trying to find and the sides we already know)
uhhh eb ab and ac cf?
ough im stumped
Okay I'll help you with this one
so AEB ~ AFC
we use EB/FC = AB/AF
EB we're trying to find
it's corresponding side in AFC (whose value we know)
and AB and AF because they're corresponding sides and we already know their value
now just put in the value of FC, AB and AF here, and you would have EB
If this confuses you then we can do it with another method too
damn where'd i get the extra .42 from 😭😭
okay it's 36/4.47214 yes?
yea
oof so where did i go wrong
when a discrepency occurs, it's best to show your working to see how you got here
did you calculate it by hand or did you use a calculator?
what
why
you have ratios, so you multiply or divide, specially when you know the values, why would you add or subtract
okay let's do it step by step
we had
$\frac{EB}{FC}$ = $\frac{AB}{AF}$
doctorstrangejr
we know that, $FC$ = 4,
$AB$ = 9,
$AF$ = sqrt(20) or 4.47214
doctorstrangejr
hmm uh huh
okay, now we put in the values
(quick hint: if you wanna quickly stick newlines in latex, stick two backslashes \\ at the end of a line, in case that was what you needed
sorry to interrupt for this and sorry if that was not what you intended)
$\frac{EB}{4}$ = $\frac{9}{4.47124}$
doctorstrangejr
OH
No no you're fine, thank you, I tried to do that but I gave up after seeing that it got the idea across
ah okok
doctorstrangejr
wait hold on short afk be back in 15 ish minutes! 
Sure
my mom's calling me upstairs
yeah no problem, take your time
ping me when you're back (incase I don't respond you can wait for someone else)
which question is this? I'll stand by if necessary
15th one, we're yet to do 14
sure thing. how did you establish similarity there, if I may ask?
just wanna make sure I'm not drunk in case I step in
between AEB and AFC, angle A through VOA and angle E&F through right angles
ah gotcha
welcome back
$\frac{\overline{EB}}{4}$ = $\frac{9}{4.47124}$
Juggernaut
For reference
Alright thanks mate
you still here?
yea, sorry for the wait!!
no problem
you got it until here?
If math branches were chess pieces, what would each branch be?(considering multiple knights, horses, etc)
!occupied, also this kind of questions would be best in #discussion or #chill.
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nw
no wonder no one was talking
@neat spruce Has your question been resolved?
Well, I have to go out in 48 minutes, in case op isn't here by then, if they return later then someone else can help them
I'm still here on standby and waiting for OP to resurface
They’re not likely going to come back
just say adieu and call it a day 
there they are
i have to go to bed, so sorry guys 
Good night
thank u very much for ur help tho very appreciated!
see you around next time!
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Hello
A dice is rolled one time. What is the probability of rolling a 2 or a 6?
what have you tried so far
Is it weighted?

Yes the Dice weighs 0.25g

why are you sullying me
its 1/6
.close
i got 1/6
Water beam wth
you dont have helpful

you cant close it pure
Ur an undergraduate
blud thinks blud has helpful

Don't troll in the help channels, please!
Just close this
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P(a or b)
That would mean that it's the same probability of having only a 2. That's quite weird, right?
it might be a genuine question though
yes because probability is from 0 to 1
Yeah just dont read obsidian
Exactly, this is the formula needed
Water beam is an undergraduate dude 
Mmh so? I don't get your statement
P(a or b) = P(a)P(b)?
add
he sucks in probability though
Blud is trolling you. Dont bother
Nope
P(a) + P(b)
He's trolling
maybe we should mod ping then
I don't think so at all, he always behaves correctly
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is f(x) is continuous in all real numbers?
"ve" means "and"
(x^2 - m^2) / (x + m) can be simplified for x =/= -m
since we gotta find out if the f(x) is continous or not, we just gotta give the value m to the x and since the m is element of all real numbers, shouldn't we can just assume its continous
What?
no
how does m being a real number imply that its automatically continuous?
i see
no like i was trying to say
if the x is equal to m or -m, the function will be having a value at every number that we provide
its been a really long time i study lim
im trying to re-learn it
in the book, it says
"Since its like that, the f(x) function is is continous"
huh
it should be to -m
and to m
the lim should be to both
is there somethign else
or is it the whole solution
can u send the book's full sol
and the full question?
does it really ask exactly this "is f(x) is continuous in all real numbers?"
It asks "Is f function continous in the x=m? absolutely"
third one
question asks "Which are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT"
Okay, so it asks only for continuity at m. Not at all real numbers
yeah
so the criterion for continuity at some point m is that:
- the limit x->m f(x) exists
- the limit equals f(m)
so you need to find the limit x->m f(x)
what's the limit?
it asks is the f function is contunious in the m
f(m) is equal to the 0 so thats fine
i gotta find out the limit from left and right
to find out if its continous
my friend says "you can't make it continous at the values that is at right and left of -m"

