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hidden sparrow
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as 10 is being added to x so when it will go to the other side the sign of 10 becomes -ve from +ve so 5 -10 = -5

restive river
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could you give me another one

hidden sparrow
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this is easy one-
x/10 = 20

restive river
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without division

hidden sparrow
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x + 5 = 10

restive river
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x + 5 = 10
5 + 5 = 10
10=10

hidden sparrow
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bro like why are u making the value of x = 5 I don't give you the value of x it should be solved as-
x + 5 = 10
x = 10 - 5
x = 5
you don't have to prove both sides are same you have to solve the equation

restive river
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bro what

hidden sparrow
restive river
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high school

hidden sparrow
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like what grade 9th?

restive river
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yes

hidden sparrow
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Yo bro 😄 here are the basic rules for solving equations like x + 5 = 10:

✏️ How to Solve Equations:
Keep x on one side, move numbers to the other.

Do the opposite operation to move terms (if it's +5, do -5).

Simplify both sides step-by-step.

When x is alone, you’ve got your answer!

🔍 Example:

x + 5 = 10
Step 1: Subtract 5 from the other side
x = 10 - 5
x = 5 ✅
💡 You don’t need to guess x — just solve it step-by-step like a puzzle.

restive river
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do another exuasion

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x + 1 = 1
x + 1 = 1
x = 1-1
x = 0

hidden sparrow
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now try 2x - 1 = 2

restive river
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bruh what happened with me

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i literally knew how to solve this now i forgot

hidden sparrow
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2x - 1 = 2
step 1 move - 1 to the other side so -1 becomes +1
2x = 2 + 1
step 2 move 2 to the other side as two it multiplied by x so on the other side it will divide with 3 as 2+1 = 3
so x = 3/2

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which is 1.5 if divided

restive river
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ok do another equasion

hidden sparrow
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x * 1 = 2

restive river
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x is 1

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2

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x is 2

hidden sparrow
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no as x * 1 =2
so x = 2/1
which is 2

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try x - 1 = 2

restive river
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x - 1 = 2
3 - 1 = 2
2=2

hidden sparrow
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x -1 = 2

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x = 2+1

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x =3

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now I have to go (as I think ur quite weak in this u can watch a video of this topic on yt or other platform just search Linear equations in one variable explained)

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bye!

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This function is at the heart of most elementary number theory. gcd(x,y) is defined as the largest g such that g∣x and g∣y

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What does this function tell you?

If gcd(x,y)=1
, then in a sense you can tell that y does not help a number divide something by x because in a sense there is no part of g of x it can help divide. This is why its also referred to as x is coprime or relatively prime to y. Try formalizing this definition to see if you've understood it.

I need help on understanding this. I understand the first line but I am having difficulty understanding the last paragraph

fringe hedge
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what does it mean that y does not help a number divide something by x ?

uncut imp
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That if a number a does not divide x ay neither

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But thats extremely weird explanation

stone stump
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who wrote that

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thats so bad

fringe hedge
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uncut imp
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And a does not divide x

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Then a*y does not divide x either

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solar goblet
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hello i'd like my work checked please

near trout
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i don't immediately see anything wrong, skimming over it quickly

solar goblet
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right yeah

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stark oxide
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you have to make sure atleast 1 point is further than 10 cm

pseudo basin
stark oxide
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ig cause furthest isnt written anywhere else

pseudo basin
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they're doing it via a complement

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i.e. they're finding the probability that the furthest point ISN'T more than 10cm away (which means the same thing as saying all 3 are within 10cm of 0),

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and then taking 1 minus that

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frozen aurora
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can someone give a good intuitive explanation of this and why the two conditions don't contradict each other?

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we are given a pair $p,q$ such that $p<q$.
ii-a says that there exists some $C>0$ such that for ALL $f\in C([a,b])$, we have
$$
\lVert f \rVert {p} \leq C \lVert f \rVert {q}
$$
ii-b says that exists some sequence $f
{n} \in C([a,b])$ so that
$$
\lim
{ n \to \infty } \frac{\lVert f_{n} \rVert {q}}{\lVert f{n} \rVert _{p}} = 0
$$

but from (ii-a) we get that
$$
\frac{\lVert f \rVert _{q}}{\lVert f \rVert _{p}} \geq \frac{1}{C}
$$
and this holds for ALL $f$ with ONE $C$. then how can the limit go to zero, even for that special sequance in (ii-b)?

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artemetra

frozen aurora
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ping when replying

olive snow
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you can't have both at the same time

frozen aurora
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both ii-a and ii-b?

olive snow
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yeah

frozen aurora
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but that's in the book and the exercise right after is to prove them

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maybe i am misreading the theorem

olive snow
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but you can't have ii-a true and ii-b true at the same time

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thats what i meant

frozen aurora
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yeah i get that but the book says both are true

olive snow
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sus

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they are true

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but not together

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ii-a and ii-b = false

frozen aurora
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7.5: (a) Use Hölder in combination with the trick |f(x)|^p = 1 \cdot |f(x)|^p.
(b) Use the example f_n(x) = x^n on [0,1].

this is the hints for proofs of the two statements

olive snow
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like from what i understand is that ii-a means that there is no extreme difference between norms and ii-b says this extreme difference happen

frozen aurora
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i thought of this as being able to bound it from above and unable to bound it from below

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cuz they use this fact to show that p-norms aren't equivalent on C([a,b]) but in fact one half of the inequality holds there

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by equivalence of norms i mean this

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so only the rightmost inequality holds but not the leftmost

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at least i think this is what they are trying to communicate

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but it makes no sense why what i am doing is invalid somehow

frozen aurora
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yes

olive snow
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yeah they see 1 as a function

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of Lp i think

frozen aurora
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hmmm

olive snow
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lets call them differently since you already have p and q

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if you have like, n = q/(q-p) and m = q/p you can achieve to have 1/n+1/m = 1

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but since f(x) = 1

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you will have that :
int |f(x)|^p <= norm(1)_n * norm(f(x)^p)_m

frozen aurora
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that makes a lot of sense

olive snow
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and yeah with integrals notation

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you can end it

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ending with norm(f)^p_p <= norm(f)^p_q

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taking p-th root

frozen aurora
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yep got that

frozen aurora
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let me type it out

olive snow
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Ig its try to make no sense of the reverse inequality for the given counterexample

frozen aurora
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i get:
$$
\displaystyle
\frac{\lVert x^{n} \rVert_{q}}{\lVert x^{n} \rVert_{p}} = \frac{ \int_{0}^{1} x^{nq} dx}{\int_{0}^{1}x^{np}dx} = \frac{\left( \frac{x^{nq+1}}{nq+1} \right) \Big|{0}^{1}}{\left( \frac{x^{np+1}}{np+1} \right) \Big|{0}^{1}} = \frac{np+1}{nq+1}
$$

woven radishBOT
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artemetra

frozen aurora
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but as n->infinity it's not zero?

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it goes to p/q

olive snow
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Thats why it doesn't hold

frozen aurora
frozen aurora
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i am soooo cooked

supple knot
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functional analysis is pain

olive snow
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I don't like it personnaly

frozen aurora
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this isn't even proper functional analysis, i'll be taking that next semester bleakkekw

supple knot
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frozen aurora
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yeah no i think this is some typo

frozen aurora
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signal ice
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Hi! I don't study in English so I don't know if all my terms are correct, but I'm going to try explain my problem. I'm stuck on the general idea of a function composition. I can't wrap my head around how to actually use the formula \int f'(x)g'(f(x))dx=g(f(x))+C, especially without differentiating g(x) first. I get stuck on every single composed function when I try to integrate it, but right now specifically I'm trying to solve 4x/x^2+4

vital sedge
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Do you want to keep it rigorous? Because I think this is just a u-substitution.

north roost
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…Which is reverse of chain rule

signal ice
pseudo basin
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you mean 4x/(x^2+4) first of all?

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you need brackets when you write fractions like that and the numerator and/or denominator are held together by + or -

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so you're calculating $\int \frac{4x}{x^2 + 4} \dd{x}$ right

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signal ice
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yes!

pseudo basin
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right ok

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so here is the idea

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i'm going to adjust your formula a bit and write it like $$\int f'(x) g(f(x)) \dd{x} = G(f(x)) + C$$ where $G$ is an antiderivative of $g$

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pseudo basin
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(just g and G instead of g' and g, no other change)

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the way it's written and executed in practice looks a bit different than a direct application of this formula

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in english the process is called substitution, or as you'll commonly hear it u-substitution or u-sub because the new letter is very commonly chosen as u

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and the way it looks is: $$\int f'(x) g(f(x)) \dd{x} = \int g(u) \dd{u} = G(u) + C = G(f(x)) + C$$

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pseudo basin
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so what you end up with is that you introduce $u := f(x)$ and then take the derivative of that to get $\dv{u}{x} = f'(x)$, but for the purposes of integration it is written $\dd{u} = f'(x) \dd{x}$

woven radishBOT
pseudo basin
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this is really also the whole reason why we write the differential symbol (dx, du, dt etc) in integral notation -- it is a formal device to keep things in order when doing substitutions like that

signal ice
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so what exactly was the u here? i think i missed it

lavish sigil
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It's kind of hard to tell if you aren't used to it

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u is x^2

signal ice
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is f(x)=x^2+4 and g(x)=4x in my problem?

lavish sigil
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Well first

woven radishBOT
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jewels!

lavish sigil
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If you were to write the integral like that

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f(x) = x^2 and g(x) = 1/(x + 4)

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Or f(x) = x^2 + 4 and g(x) = 1/x

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It's not really concrete

signal ice
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how would we get to this? I'm trying to understand the step by step logic to be able to do it with other functions as well

lavish sigil
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Admittedly this is a weird example

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The formula gives you the illusion of having the functions in a line neatly multiplied together

jaunty mantle
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$\int \frac{f’(x)}{f(x)},dx$

woven radishBOT
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frosst

lavish sigil
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Also I do not like the way this formula is presented to you, have you not learnt substitutions before?

jaunty mantle
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Can you see that your problem looks like this?

signal ice
signal ice
jaunty mantle
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No no

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f(x) is on the denominator

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What is on the denominator? (In your question)

signal ice
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x^2+4, no?

jaunty mantle
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It is

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Now what is the derivative of that

signal ice
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2x

jaunty mantle
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Okay

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And 4x is just 2 * 2x

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Which is 2 * the derivative on the denominator

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Do you agree?

signal ice
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yeah

jaunty mantle
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So your problem if I let f(x) = x² + 4

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$\int \frac{2f’(x)}{f(x)},dx = 2\int \frac{f’(x)}{f(x)},dx$

woven radishBOT
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frosst

jaunty mantle
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Do you agree?

signal ice
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yea

jaunty mantle
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Your problem looks like that form

signal ice
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Oh, yeah

jaunty mantle
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At this point we know this has the anti derivative of 2ln|f(x)| + C

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And we are done

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So 2 ln(x² + 4) + C

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Does this make sense?

signal ice
jaunty mantle
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$\dv{x} \ln(f(x)) =$?

woven radishBOT
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frosst

signal ice
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1/x? I think?

jaunty mantle
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No

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Chain rule

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Use the chain rule and try again

signal ice
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I'm lost, the chain rule?

jaunty mantle
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Yes do you know what the chain rule is?

signal ice
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not off the top of my head atleast

jaunty mantle
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You should

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Go look at your notes if you have them

signal ice
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oh I missed that class, that's why I don't remember it

jaunty mantle
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$\dv{x} g(f(x)) = f’(x)g’(f(x))$

woven radishBOT
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frosst

jaunty mantle
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Swapped it around so it’s the same as what you had at the top

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Now, $\dv{x} \ln(x) = \frac{1}{x}$

woven radishBOT
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frosst

jaunty mantle
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Yeah?

signal ice
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I think I get it

jaunty mantle
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All of it?

signal ice
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Maybe. i'll try to complete the question on paper

jaunty mantle
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That will help yeah

signal ice
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How exactly do I use the chain rule on 2 \int 2x/(x^2+4)? I think I understand the rule itself, just not how to use it

jaunty mantle
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You aren’t using the chain rule

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Chain rule is for derivatives

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We’re doing integration

signal ice
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oh okay sorry

jaunty mantle
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We’re using reverse chain rule

signal ice
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ohh wait that's the formula

jaunty mantle
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We start with something that looks like chain rule spits out, then we know the integral must be the composition of functions

signal ice
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It's this rule?

jaunty mantle
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Yes

jaunty mantle
signal ice
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f'(x)ln(f(x) with the chain rule? or did I use it wrong

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okay I got the right answer from my original question atleast

jaunty mantle
signal ice
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so its f'(x)*1/(f(x)

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oh

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and that's just f'(x)/f(x)

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I get it now

jaunty mantle
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Yes

jaunty mantle
signal ice
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thank you so much for explaining this :) I think I get the whole thing now

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in the above graph, can we deduce that it is a planar graph just by looking at it? according to me I think it is planar just by seeing it, but my teacher used the concept of edge subdivision to prove that it is a planar graph so I am a bit confused rn

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slate peak
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How do I find $\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac {an+X}{b^{n}}$

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laestia

slate peak
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I was trying something like separating the top and bottom but that doesn't work

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is there a way to calculate it without brute force

pseudo basin
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you need to know how to calculate $\sum n\cdot r^n$ and also geometric series

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slate peak
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ok thanks, will check that out

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I can separate an and x into 2 separate sums right

pseudo basin
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an/b^n and X/b^n yes

slate peak
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Like $\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac {an}{b^{n}}+\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac {X}{b^{n}}$

woven radishBOT
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laestia

pseudo basin
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yes that is what i meant

slate peak
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I can do the latter half for X part but not an/b^n

slate peak
pseudo basin
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yes

slate peak
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ok thanks

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heavy current
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hello kannawave

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this channel is closed, so you should open your own channel if you need math help

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how old are you? pikathink

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<@&268886789983436800> uhh kongouderp

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you're not allowed to be on discord at nine, I'm afraid

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sully mods, smite this child

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formal venture
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Should it not be 1/3?

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Because the only time it can be red again is if its the left most box

potent zodiac
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Yea but there are 2 red balls in that box

acoustic leaf
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you can select any of the following:

  • left red ball, left box
  • right red ball, left box
  • red ball, right box
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the other ball is also red in the first two scenarios

pseudo basin
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@formal venture would you like an equivalent rephrasing of this problem

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it might make it a bit clearer

formal venture
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yes please

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oh

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we're breaking it down into left and right also

pseudo basin
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let's say there's a group of 6 people forming 3 unrelated pairs of siblings:

  • two brothers, Andrew A. and Bob A.
  • two sisters, Liz B. and Mary B.
  • a brother and a sister, Carl C. and Diana C.
formal venture
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mhm

pseudo basin
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we pick a person at random from these 6 and it turns out to be a guy

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what's the probability he has a brother

formal venture
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Well the only box that could have another brother is andrew/bob

pseudo basin
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assume nobody has any siblings other than the ones listed

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yes

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out of the 3 guys we could have picked, 2 have brothers

formal venture
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Okay so when I do that, am I considered the box as one of the 1/3, or the choices

pseudo basin
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... neither of that makes sense to me so im gonna say no to both

formal venture
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fair fair

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doesnt make sense after i typed it either

pseudo basin
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you do not really consider the boxes (or in this case families) at all directly

formal venture
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okay

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Okay so out of the 3, only 2 have brothers

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So would it be 2/3

pseudo basin
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yeah thus 2/3

formal venture
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ahh

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Im following

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thank you

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whered the middle one come from though?

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or is it just weirdly greyed out

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and the right red ball is supposed to be crossed out

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this makes sense now though, thank you

acoustic leaf
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it's hard to tell but there are check marks over the selected ball in each

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that's the difference between the left two boxes, the first one has the left ball selected and the second one has the right ball selected

pseudo basin
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the middle case is where we pick bob

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the left one is where we pick andrew

formal venture
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i see

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got it thank u

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livid stream
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integrate 1/(sqrt(4x + 1)) dx from 1 to 2

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livid stream
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Wait let me senfy work

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Work 1

pale bolt
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,r

livid stream
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Why

lavish nimbus
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U-substitute $$\int_1^2 \frac{dx}{\sqrt{4x+1}}$$

livid stream
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Hey

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pale bolt
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,rotate

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sniped by tex

burnt lance
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u have to do the derivate but inverse

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add 1 more to the xponent instead of 1 less

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but do the f' x g - g' x f/ g^2 but with 1 more

livid stream
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Bro i mean the answer is 1 or (3*√5)/2 as there is two different answer in my sir answer and my answer and my book answer

burnt lance
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ohh

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didnt read mb

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idk im too tyred

lavish sigil
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,w integrate 1/sqrt(4x + 1) from 1 to 2

burnt lance
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use symbolab

lavish sigil
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smh

pale bolt
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it's just 4x

lavish sigil
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Oh

livid stream
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Is it √3+√5/2

lavish sigil
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doesn't seem to be

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with or without missing parentheses

burnt lance
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i think yes it is

pale bolt
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kinda hard to read but I think you didn't change the bounds wrt t

livid stream
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So what's the answe mine 1 with support of book or sir's in honis 3+√5/2

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I rewrite it ok

pale bolt
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the answer is $\frac{3-\sqrt5}2$

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livid stream
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I got it

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Let me solve it

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Is it correct

pale bolt
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not the best notation but work seems right

livid stream
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It's +1

pale bolt
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should be indicating the bounds are in terms of x, and you need the dt after the integrals

livid stream
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What u mean? I directly do it as i solved it 5 times

pale bolt
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wait I think I don't understand your work actually

livid stream
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Ok take ur time

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This is the think i did to get 1

livid stream
pale bolt
# livid stream

this is wrong because the sqrt shouldn't go across when you sub in the bounds

livid stream
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Ok i got it btw so we take 4x+1 as whole term

pale bolt
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$\sqrt x |_1^2 = \sqrt2 - \sqrt 1 \neq \sqrt {2-1}$

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i got far enough to get that u(x, t) = 1/root(2pi) integral from -inf to inf of B(k)e^(cike^(-t)) e^(ikx) dk but i got a bit stuck from here

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$u(x, t) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi}} \int_{-\infty}^\infty B(k) e^{c i k e^{-t}} e^{i k x} , dk$

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$\text{With the initial conditions, I found that } B(k) = \mathcal{F}\big(f(x - c)\big)$

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can someone teach me to do z table?

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how do you know you that you need to integrate

deep vortex
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Now you might as well write an integral sign in front of both sides

somber citrus
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i see

somber citrus
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do you know where y0 comes from?

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Then you call e^C from now on y0

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ohhhhh

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And leave off the || because you know y is positive as amount of birds

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r/n==t

1/ndn=dt

pseudo basin
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,rccw

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$\sum_{\gamma = 1}^n \frac{1}{n} \ell y\left(1 + \frac{\xi^2}{n^2}\right)$

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Hello

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lol

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wind mason
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That's my best bet

bitter herald
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Yes that's it

misty crest
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looks like \xi to me

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hi, what is your question?

wind mason
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Write better next time bleak

faint hearth
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then yes, you can make it into an integral

wind mason
bitter herald
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because we need to solve it

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And my best thought is to use riemann integration

wind mason
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And please clarify that next time

bitter herald
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My next step is 0 to 1 integration log(1+x^2)dx

faint hearth
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if you want a hint on integrating this, try ||integration by parts||

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Yeah but

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I know i have done

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?

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1 sec

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,rccw

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this looks good to me! 😄

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wind mason
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i.e., what c can you add to the numerator to make 2x^2+c divisible by x^2+1?

bitter herald
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I need help with Integration

peak needle
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add and subtract 2 from the numerator to continue your integration

bitter herald
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Right side

craggy rampart
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ill send you now

wind mason
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both will give you the same result 😄

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What happened

wind mason
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Better luck next time

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Ohhh sorry sorry

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I think this Chanel is for helping people

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craggy rampart
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not like this

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!redir

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fastrack_and_backtrack

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bitter herald
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-2+log2

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Why log thing is wrong?

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@peak needle

peak needle
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because integral of 1/1+x^2 is arctan x

bitter herald
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2(x-arctanx)

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2-π/2

peak needle
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correct

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so whats the final answer 😄

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@bitter herald

bitter herald
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But i am asking why log answer is wrong

faint hearth
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which one do you mean by "log answer"?

bitter herald
faint hearth
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how did you get that?

bitter herald
peak needle
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thats wrong

bitter herald
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I'm asking why

peak needle
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integration of 1/1+x^2 is arctan (x)

bitter herald
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@pseudo basin

peak needle
bitter herald
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I am asking why integration is wrong

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I don't want trigonometry

peak needle
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differentiate it, you will not get 1/(1+x^2) 😄

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Ok

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bitter herald
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,w d/dx log(1+x^2)/2

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runic grove
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sup

ebon path
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i dont understand why it was divided into -9a and not into 4a

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i just wanted to know how it got -9a

jaunty mantle
runic grove
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what

jaunty mantle
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You see how the remainder was -9a²?

ebon path
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At the top of the division you’re asking

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What times a-3 gives me -9a²

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The answer is -9a

ebon path
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oh wait i seem to realize something

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It’ll give you also +27a but that’s a¹ not a² and you’re trying to “take care” of the a² at the moment

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You’ll fix the a¹ term later

ebon path
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that none of it was divided by 3 and only was divided by a

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so i dived by only a and multiply it by a - 3

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is that how it works?

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What??

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Look at the very top

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Why does it say a²

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It’s because a-3 * a² gives you a³

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cause it was divided by only a

jaunty mantle
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You’re trying to get rid of the a³ term

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So you’re trying to construct the a³ from (a-3)

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So you do okay (a-3)*a² = a³ + some stuff

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Okay, the a³ term is correct

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Now let’s deal with the a² term

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In multiplying (a-3) by a² to “fix” the a³ term, you inadvertently add -3a² to your result

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But what you really want is -12a²

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So you’re now missing -9a²

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Does this make sense?

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yep but i was just wondering if i still divided -9a^2 by -3 aswell or is the only use of -3 is a multiplier

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What the fuck

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There is no division going on in long division

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There is only multiplication and subtraction

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Not once have I used the word division because there is no division

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Don’t think of it as division in that sense

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You’re trying to fix the solution one term at a time

ebon path
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oh

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So at first you go (a-3)(a²) = a³ - 3a²

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But what you really want is a³ - 12a² + 32a - 15

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So then you try okay, what if I do (a-3)(a² - 9a)

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You get a³ -3a² - 9a² + 27a = a³ - 12a² + 27a

ebon path
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but i watch a youtube video stating that how to divide is like 14a^4 divided by 7a^2 is 2a^2

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Okay, the first 2 terms are now fixed

ebon path
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so i just inputted that thought on this long division

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That division tells you what to actually put up at the top

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But then you expand and do multiplication on the bottom

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Then subtract

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wait so uhm i just divde the first number? for example 3a^2 - 2
i only use this to divide 3a^2?
and the rest i use only for multiplication?

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The -3 doesn’t contribute to “fixing” the a³ term so it doesn’t matter, you’ll “fix” its contribution in the later steps

jaunty mantle
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Divide what by what for the first number

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Division occurs between 2 things and you’re just saying 1 of them

ebon path
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like the diveder is a - 3

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so i only use "a" to divide?

jaunty mantle
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To figure out what to write up top yea

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But after that you need to multiply up top (the thing you just wrote down) with the full (a-3) and write that on the bottom

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Then do the subtraction

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It’s very very much like normal long division

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Each aⁿ is a different “digit”

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And there’s no carry

ebon path
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i see i think im starting to get it, ill just watch a youtube video first to make more sense

jaunty mantle
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If you try to divide 10 by 7 then you just write 1/7 in the tens slot because 1 goes into 7 “1/7”th times

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Then 0 goes into 7 0 times so you get 1/7 in the 10s slot and 0 in the ones slot

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Which is 1/7 * 10 + 0 * 1

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Which is 10/7 which is what you expect when you divide 10 by 7

ebon path
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mhm, but i dont understand what is this for, or which part in the long division this is

jaunty mantle
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Normally in long division you’re limited to writing down integers on the top but if you allow yourself to write any fraction or decimal in each digit it becomes just like polynomial long division

ebon path
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oh i seee

jaunty mantle
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This is more like dividing 100 by 700

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So you still get 1/7 at the end

ebon path
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ok i think im understanding a bit

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This is 100/70

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But see it as 1xx/7x = 1/7 * x

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For part c to find the range do you solve the inequality focusing on just the numerator, and then the denominator???

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I don’t understand your question

high imp
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I just don't get part c

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I don't get what's happening apart from the first step

junior flax
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Both the numerator and denominator are important

high imp
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Like ofc u set the function greater to 0 but I don't get the rest of it

junior flax
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Numerator has to not equal zero, and numerator and denominator have to be the same sign

high imp
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Like why not bring the denominator to the other side

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So how would u solve it

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high imp
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What are the steps to solving it

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You'd have to create extra cases, at that.

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high imp
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And how do u do that

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With a sign chart

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Or some other method

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But the method here I assume they didn't use a sign chart

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high imp
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What's that

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Or, actually.

high imp
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Wait what else can u do

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high imp
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Yes

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high imp
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Yes that's it's greater than 0

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And it can't equal 3²

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Idk what else tho

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Not that.

high imp
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Ok

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What do I do then

wind mason
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Since f'>0, f is strictly increasing, and hence there would only be one root for f.

high imp
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So because there's only one root ??

wind mason
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This simplifies our focus to just finding the root of f and determining at what point (before or after), it is greater than 0.

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No, because f'>0.

high imp
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U said there's only 1 root

wind mason
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Yes.

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$f'>0\implies\text{one root of f}$.

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Is the method I have correct??

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high imp
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What about the black??

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Is that unnecessary

wind mason
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Or actually, no, there's still a screw-up.

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Yh i think so

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Since there's an asymptote you still need to consider signage.

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Oh ok

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i cant figure why the answer is wrong

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doesnt this short circuit? what can i do for a

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maybe we could play arround with kirchofs junction law

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oh wait

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is it jus asking for the current in the circuit?

lament schooner
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yea

valid iron
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can you find the current in the circuit

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do you need help with that?

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for a just imagine the capacitor isnt there

valid iron
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its just after the battery is connected-

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not steady state

topaz beacon
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yes

lament schooner
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and you imagine the capacitor isnt there

valid iron
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so it will act like a wire no?

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yes

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but

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so just consider it as a wire

topaz beacon
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the wire still exists, but no capacitor

valid iron
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yep mb

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join the cd points and redraw the circuit

topaz beacon
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eventually the capacitor will build up enough electrons thus creating a potential difference syrex

lament schooner
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ah i see what you mean

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yep the charge opposing the ef formed by the emf in steady state

topaz beacon
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also it would short circuit without a capacitor (with or without the wire) because you have a voltage source

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and for the part b uh

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if you have a current source, the buildup might continue until the electrons have enough potential to jump the gap

valid iron
topaz beacon
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it wouldnt*

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whoops

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big error there

valid iron
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wait why tho

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short circuit is effictively

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wait how is it defined

topaz beacon
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ok im just bad at talking electricity

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i think we are going off topic

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after a sufficient ammount of time

lament schooner
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nothing

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flows through it

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also known as?

lament schooner
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uh

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capacitance?

topaz beacon
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i was looking for open circuit

lament schooner
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ah

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but what can i do with taht

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to find max q

topaz beacon
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well q=cv, so lets find the voltage across the capacitor

lament schooner
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how can i find delta V

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unless i just do pointdV-pointcV

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yes

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thats exactly how you do it

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a problem my friend sent me i need help

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Do shared energy combinations add or multiply? What is this "multiversal complexity"

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do you know this

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tbh looks like ai slop

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It depends on how the universes interact

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!noai

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bruh my friend sent me this so like no point

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forgot command but whatever

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i need some help

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@ dido can someone please help me

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Why do you think it has an answer

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"the book"? Which book?

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🤔

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My mind is baffling

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what’s the formula for the volume of a right circular cylinder

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word

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🤔

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that’s not what i asked

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Oh

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Pi r^2 h

misty crest
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did you draw a picture

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Yeah

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send it bruh

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Not very accurate

muted sapphire
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i think it’s supposed to be a silo

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like this

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but what you drew is ok

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just sideways

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I see

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but yes volume is correct

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now what is the amount of metal

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in terms of geometry terms

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what quantity

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The surface area?

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yes sir

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Oh

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now what is the surface area

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3Pi r^2+2pirh

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In total

fossil locust
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where did you get 3pir^2?

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you should use more words to explain

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otherwise it's hard to follow

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True

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hmm

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is the pi r^2 supposed to be from the bottom of the hemisphere?

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i don’t think it will have a bottom

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🗣️

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3pir^2 comes from the bottom of the hemisphere but here i don’t think it’s supposed to be closed

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lmao

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So it is just 2pi r ^2?

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the cylinder has a base and that's the pi r^2

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why would the cylinder have a bottom?

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i mean it could

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question is low-key buns

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cause the hemisphere is on top of the cylinder
if the cylinder has no base then all the liquid would just flow out the bottom

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yeah....

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who said it had to have liquid

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lol

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that's why stuff like open-top vs closed-top is so important

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😭 ambiguous question

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lol

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Are we still on the topic lol

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farming and shit

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True

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What's going on here? 👀

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So what should u do next

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agricultural engineering

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Despite the bottom

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is there an answer key

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you might have to do both

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Nope.

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and just check which one

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Because I made the question

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then you decide

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is there a bottom or no

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Probably yes

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fym probably

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this is your world

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No answer key

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lol

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Yeah

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you want to minimize this

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so what should you do?

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Contact a professional constructor to calculate for me

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usually how it goes

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They are not very good at maths

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maths

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nah

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math

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What

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Nah nah nah bloody hell mate

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It is maths

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aren’t you canadian

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With s

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British-Canadian

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sorry

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It is ok lol

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Back to the topic what should we do next

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With h or r?

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so far we have
V = pi r^2 h + 2/3 pi r^3
A = 2pi r h + 3pi r^2

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Yep

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we want A to be a minimum

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Yep

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with any of these optimization problems you need to differentiate A and set dA/dt = 0

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but we have two variables, h and r so we need to express one in terms of the other

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definitely easier to express h in terms of r

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so solve for h in terms of r and V

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H=v/pi2r^2 -2/3r

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$h = \frac{V}{\pi r^2} - \frac{2}{3}r$

woven radishBOT
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did you mean this?

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Yep

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ok now substitution that into A

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Okay

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$A = 2\pi r\left(\frac{V}{\pi r^2} - \frac{2}{3}r\right) + 3\pi r^2$

woven radishBOT
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And then find A’?

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$A = \frac{2V}{r} + \frac{5\pi}{3}r^2$

woven radishBOT
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yea?

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and then find dA/dt

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and set it equal to zero

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find r

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find h

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or no need

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we want to find A

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Why this question associate with change in rates

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related rates?

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similar but no

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Yeah

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Oh.

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r and h aren’t changing here

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$\frac{-2V}{r^2} + \frac{10\pi}{3}r = 0$

woven radishBOT
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,w \frac{-2V}{r^2} + \frac{10\pi}{3}r = 0

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omg

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alright fine

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$-2V + \frac{10\pi}{3} r^3 = 0$

woven radishBOT
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$r = \sqrt[3]{\frac{3V}{5\pi}}$

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wdym negative?

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V is constant and arbitrary rn

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how are you getting negative

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Idk why

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nah

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what?

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So we are done?

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it asks for dimensions

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But there aren’t any numbers

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so what

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it’s in terms of V

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Bruhhhhhhhhhhh

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lol

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Okay……..

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Yeah

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socrates is a myth fr

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fictional character

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just saying

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🤷🏼‍♂️

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Existence is to be perceived

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🤣

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So if I can perceive the volume

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Then they exist

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deep bro

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1x1x1

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Done

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true philosopher

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Or actually 0x0x0

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you could be the next diogenes bro

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As long as it in my head

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why be aristotle

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Because he is balling

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word

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damn you’re young

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😭

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is it just american?

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word to my mother

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🦅

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🦅

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lol

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ever heard what an eagle sounds like?

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🤣

muted sapphire
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what was the word

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MAGA

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My teacher immediately stopped us lmao

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😭

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supposed to be 5 letters dawg

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Do u think Trump is good at maths?