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dont forget the parenthesis on the first line, (x-5)(x-5)
also, try not to use the "x" as multiplication sign. use $\cdot$ instead to avoid ambiguity
LordFelix
will do
on this one, your... last? 2nd to last (this one is difficult to see)? you're dividing:
$\frac{y^3}{y^5}=\frac{1}{y^2}$
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whereas you put y^3 instead on the denominator result
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Can someone help me with these two problems
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I think you can use Horner's method
what is that
for the first part
snce u know 5-i and 5+i
u make the quadratic
etc
so
i got z^2-10z+26
now what
you are solving f(z) = 0
yh
how else are you gonna solve a quartic equation?
,w expand (z-(5-i))(z-(5+i))(z^2-10z+26)
ok they don't math with the original
ohhhhhhh
thats it?
nit that doesnt make sense
cos then
we just doing
the quadratic twice
cos
expanding this gives us the first quadratic
i see now what you did
and why you are confused
i misunderstood you
yea you would do long division
to find the other quadratic factor
just treat them as constants
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Make sure the remainder gets 0
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can some one please help with this
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Find all the integer pairs (m, n) such that:
[
m^3 + n^3 + 99mn = 33^3
]
\textbf{Solution:}
Starting with the given equation:
[
m^3 + n^3 + 99mn = 33^3
]
Rewriting:
[
m^3 + n^3 = 33^3 - 99mn
]
Using the sum of cubes factorization:
[
m^3 + n^3 = (m+n)(m^2 - mn + n^2)
]
Substituting, we have:
[
(m+n)(m^2 + n^2 - mn) = 33^3 - 99mn
]
Simplifying further:
[
(m+n)(m^2 + n^2 - mn) = 99(363 - mn)
]
Assuming (m+n = 99), we use the identity (m^2 + n^2 = (m+n)^2 - 2mn). Then:
[
m^2 + n^2 = 99^2 - 2mn = 9801 - 2mn
]
Plugging this back, we get:
[
99(9801 - 2mn - mn) = 99(363 - mn)
]
From here, we attempt to solve for (m) and (n). Testing (m+n = 99) and (m^2 + n^2 = 363), we find:
[
mn = 4719
]
The quadratic equation for (m) and (n) becomes:
[
x^2 - 99x + 4719 = 0
]
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However, solving this equation does not yield integer solutions, suggesting an error in the assumptions or steps. It is unclear where the mistake lies.
m + n is not necessarily 99
why did you consider m+n = 99 ?
isn't the left side factored matches the right side ?
isn't the left side factored matches the right side ?
just because 4 * 3 = 12 * 1 you cant say 4 = 12
All clear now thanks
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Hello, Iâve been trying to understand these types of questions for a few days now, no luck, I think where I tend to get stuck is when I get to all the fractions and negative signs and such, messes with my brain lol, but Iâm also not fully clear on the elimination and substituting methods
This is also a no calculator course
This is the work Iâve done, although not much help because I realized afterwards it isnât correct
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This is system of equations, correct?
Yeah
the exact title of this specific one as it shows on my homework is Manipulating Expressions/Equations
But the title of the whole thing is systems of linear equations yes
the sign - of -4 disappeared
Wow ur right idk why I did that lol
But regardless would I have even been able to achieve the right answer with the way I was going in that problem
awm can u like rotate it
Sure, if you didn't change de sign
I guess where I tend to get confused is when the negatives are either on one number in a fraction or the whole fraction, for example, -1 over 2 versus just a -1/-2, if thereâs one negative sign on one number, can I put that negative in front of the whole fraction?
Yeah sure
So my goal was to get y by itself so I can find the value of y
Then plug that into the other equation to find x
Like said before I changed the sign for no reason when I shouldnât of but I tend to struggle with getting that first y value
Now I noticed that you're right in that step your put the sign of -4 before the term, so I didn't notice that
Oh so it is a positive 4?
Yeah you put the sign before the term
But, the wrong step that I didn't understand is why you change the sign of 20x
It should be -20x
Ur right I see that now idk why I didnât do that I think I was just super stressed solving this earlier and made silly mistakes
You should multiply the -5x by 4(demoninator) not -4
I thought when multiplying fractions thought since it was multiplied by -3, the 4 turns into -4 bc itâs multiplied by -1
I see
The real problem
Why +18x is still +18x after you multiply by -
I see, give me one moment Iâm gonna redo that part so I can get the real equation
One quick question
If Iâm multiplying a -3 times that 2-6x over -4, does that -4 stay negative ?
Is the denominator of 1 also technically negative since the 3 is negative
If youre multiplying that
Remember multiply the numerator with numerator, denominator with denominator
In this case -3 is equal to -3/1 or 3/-1
But not -3/-1
I see, and then I can combine like terms making that 38x - 6 over -4 but then thatâs where I get stuck how do I isolate that x
Then
You can multiplying -4 in both side
So you don't have to warry about fraction
I forgot about that rule that makes perfect sense
Yes I see it now I think I can solve it from here now, thank you for clearing that up truly
Questions like this were beating me up for days lol
So good luck, and more practice you do for it better you can manage it
Yep, thank you for your help
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I'm lost! I need help I'm unsure how to get this anwser
The y intercept of the graph of a function is the point where the graph intersects the y axis (the vertical axis). Note that the x=0 at the y axis. So the y intercept of the graph of h is just the value h(0)
Thanks!
Oh sorry I misread it.
To be quite honest, I am still confused đ
so we are going to find the h(0) and we already have f(0) and g(0). h(x) = g(x) * f(x).
do you think we can proceed from here?
Yes?
can you tell me what happens when we plug x=0 ?
No I can't I don't know how to do this problem I was absent on Friday when my instructor told us how to do these.
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okay so can you see that the h(x) function is the product of f(x) and g(x) function?
in these types of problems where we have a function like h(x) expressed in terms of two different functions like f(x) and g(x) whose y-intercepts are known, and we need to find the y-intercept of h(x), then simply put x = 0 or any other point whose value is needed.
then we will get, h(0) = f(0) * g(0), can you please tell us what we can do after this?
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Hello, I donât know how to solve 3), Iâm kinda confused with homothethy vectors and modules, I have a test tomorrow and I donât understand
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When you obtain a figure in base of another figure increasing or decreasing his scale all coming from the center of homothecy
stretching a figure about a point
like this
Q is a homothety of P about S (I think that's how it's called)
so for 1. find the distance between the point and P, then multiply by the ratio to get the new distance
the image will be on the line connecting the two points
Ohhh I see I see, but I donât understand the vector thing from the 3) part
I haven't done vectors but
I think the x value should be 3(x coordinate of u) - 2(x coordinate of v)
same with y value
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how do i evaluate this using riemman sums?
can you list out the expression you've come to?
im not necessarily sure how to type it but i can explain my steps?
after i found đ„* i used the formula for a riemman sum like sigma f(x)âx
i plugged in x*
and im just unsure how to manipulate from there
i know i can separate the sum
like for 1 + sq(1-x^2)
but idk how to manipulate sq(1-x^2) in order to evaluate the limit?
like as n --> inf
what expression do you get when you sub in x* to sqrt(1-x^2)?
sqrt(1-(-1/sqrt(2) + k((sqrt(2)+2)/(2sqrt(2))/n)^2)
i might've forgotten a bracket
sorry
ok what is k here?
I will try and type out what you wrote and you can correct anything thats not right
ok gotcha so k is what you are summing over?
yeah
$\sqrt{1 + \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} - k((\sqrt{2}+2)/(2\sqrt{2}))/n)^2}$
ok let me tidy this up a bit lol
yeah it looks right to me tho
sorry its a bit cutoff is the upper limit of the integral 1/2?
yup
ok how does this look?
VortexNerd
lets narrow in on the definition of x*. How did you go about deriving that
so delta x when you plug in the limits is?
0
Great so that part looks correct to me
iâm just not really sure how to find the riemann sum when given a definite integral thatâs a square root function
so $x^* = -1\sqrt{2} + \Delta x$ right?
VortexNerd
i think the firm term is a fraction
I guess I'm trying to follow your steps so I can try and help out wiht the limit
got it
right yeah dropped that accidentally. I used i in the past but lets stick with k. So rewriting we have:
$x^*_i = -\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} + k\Delta x$
VortexNerd
yess
I think a small mistake potentially is that the 1/sqrt{2] should be inside thing being squared
since you should get $\sqrt{1 - (x_i^*)^2}$
VortexNerd
which would be $\sqrt{1 - (-\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} + k\Delta x)^2}$
VortexNerd
oh right oops
and youre going to multiply $f(x^*_i)$ which is that whole big thing by $\Delta x$ on the outside
VortexNerd
yes i understand that part
thereâs also that +1 though
but i can split the sum right
so it just becomes n
yeah you should be able just focus on the square root term
since the 1 term is really simple
messing with it a bit
this is pretty gnarly, maybe someone with better alebraic chops can help out in the evaluation đŠ What is the statement of the entire problem?
do they expect you to set up the limit or fully evaluate it?
even the solution to the integral isn't pretty
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How did he get that 3! in the numerator? (the 3 with the red circle)
trying to figure out how to solve this problem
would this be right?
looks like it is.
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and how did you get to that answer
first i found the eigenvalues of the matrix
which are(-9+3sqrt(17))/2
and (-9-3sqrt(17))/2
yea I think that's wrong
could you show your working on the eigenvalues?
,rccw
oops sorry
um
yea it is bro
so to find the eigenvalues what is the characteristic equation determined by
det(Mat(A) - Lambda(Identity Mat))
you wrote your matrix down wrong, it should be +12 in the bottom right
oh
fuck off
one sec
lemme redo it, and ill get back to u in a jiffy
ah
i see now
its 6 and 9
wow
ok ty
thats why
W mans right there
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ty guys!
still so many more steps to do after that but I assume you got it đ
nah this is easy peasy
are you fine with the eigenvectors
yeah
and diagonalising
aight sweet
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BRUH
lmaoo
ok how is that wrong
what's the question
wdym?
and show all your work
am I seeing things or did you enter the correct answer just in a different form
i swear it is the correct answer no?
fuck webwork
,w {{-1,-1/2},{1,1}}^-1
your P inverse is incorrect
that's just the latexified view of what they entered
not the actual correct answer
how is it wrong?
oh i can't read
yea but on paper he got it right
its just an input error in the website
M is not equal to P D Pinv
,w {{-1,-1/2},{1,1}}{{9,0},{0,6}} {{-2,-1},{2,2}}
,w {{-1,-1/2},{1,1}}{{9^n,0},{0,6^n}} {{-2,-1},{2,2}}
your eigenvectors must be in the same order as your eigenvalues
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but they are?
which eigenvector corresponds to which eigenvalue?
try multiplying those by your matrix and verify that
multiplying the eigenvalues?
or the eigenvectors
multiply the eigenvectors by your matrix
what i mean is, multiply your eigenvectors by your original matrix M, and verify that they are actually scaling by the correct eigenvalue
seems wrong
from that, we can see that the first column must have eigenvalue 6 and the second column must have eigenvalue 9
so do i flip the columns or P, P^-1 and D?
well we can see that the columns of P and D are mismatched, so you'll have to swap one of the two
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I am in class 9. Can iget all help here?
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I need help solving this problem.
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what is the process for finding the angle between vectors u and v?
dot product
the dot product is 9 but what do I do with that info?
$a \cdot b = |a| |b| cos(\theta)$ or something
Bean Man
wait so how would I find a and b?
?
$$u \cdot v = ||u|| ||v|| cos(\theta)$$
$$cos(\theta) = \frac{u \cdot v}{|u||v|}$$
im confused on where to go next
Bean Man
Do you know the magnitude of a vector?
magnitude is the length
Alright so what the length of u and whats the length of v
$$|u|=9$$
$$|v|=\sqrt{65}$$
KXLI
Alright now can you solve for theta?
KXLI
alright
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I am not sure how to continue for solving part a.
I deduced that given we are attempting to prove that it ABCD is a parallelogram
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which I was able to prove as I have found out that
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Which in this case, they are clearly parallel
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Which is clearly not the case as they are not parallel. In fact, they are perpendicular.
Any idea where I could have went wrong?
BD and AC are diagonals
not the sides
you should consider BC and AD instead
Take a look at this. This is essentially the diagram I am basing my work on:
Wait hold on
Wrong one. Give me a moment
yeah BD and AC are diagonals
Give me a quick moment
Okay so look here
I know this is not the conventional way to label the sides of a parallelogram but that's how I did it
this parallelogram isn't ABCD then
it would be ABDC
the order matters in the name
adjacent letters denote connected vertices
Aha, so that is how to interpret it
so AB is a side, BC is a side, CD is a side and BA is a side
yep
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Can anyone solve this and also explain so I understand please
Canât help too much rn but check these out: https://www.mathsisfun.com/algebra/trig-cosine-law.html
note that the first one is just a trig definition
soh cah toa
(itâs opposite/adjacent, so tangent)
that for first, cosine law for second, sine law (https://www.mathsisfun.com/algebra/trig-sine-law.html) for 3rd
The Law of Sines (or Sine Rule) is very useful for solving triangles ... It works for any triangle
should work
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don't need cos or sine law, that's overkill for these
soh cah toa is enough for all of them since you have right triangles
first set up an equation that relates your angle and sides from that
So uhm could you explain how, I wasn't paying attention and I kinda regret it now sorry
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Thanks ok
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can somebody help me on the way with this?
Please don't occupy multiple help channels.
what have you tried?
It's a parallelogram
Opposite angles are equal
I know ooposite angles are same
Adjacent angles are supplementary
and all int. angles are 360
Use this
and adjacent are 180
how can us use x form angle E if i have only one equation for that?
first of all the angle is given outside the shape
You'll have to use linear pair first
Then just add the adjacent angles to 180 and solve for x
Then solve for y
J will be equal to E
what do you mean with this?
you can't directly use x+10 +2x -60 =180
I have to go now but this is basically all you have to do
alright, thx
Can you help because I am getting stuck on this
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Yall please help me
Light enters glass from air at an angle of 25 degrees, and refracts at an angle of 16 degrees. Calculate the index of refraction for the glass. Draw a well labelled diagram for the situation above. Must include the following labels: â i, â R, principle axis, normal, incident ray, refracted ray, mediums
bro this is a maths server
not physics one
Use Snell's law
In this case, n1 = 1 because you're coming in from air.
Ok
And how do I do that
K never mind
The problem is asking you to solve for n2
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Hey, a little confused where to start with some proofs. If someone could talk me through the approach / logic of this one that would be much appreciated.
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so
the LHS is
ceiling of (ceil(x)+m)/n and the RHS is xeil(x+m/n)
assuming that they have different values
clearly the LHS is bigger
let us take x to be between 0 and 1 (not equal to 1)
this works because we can just add the integer part of x to m
so if x is 0, both of them are the same
so x>0
and so ceil(x) = 1
no if ceil of (m+1/n) is gretaer than ceil(m+x/n)
it is also greather than
ceil(m/n)
so that means
m is a multiple of n
but if x>0
ceil(m+x/n) is also greater thab ceil(m/n)
so ceil(m+x/n) = ceil(m+ceil(x)/n)
Appreciate the help, can't say I fully understand the process though
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hello, how do i prova that if f:R ->R and and g:R->R are both continuous, then min(f,g) is continuous too? Using the definition.
If we take a an element of R; and we use the definition; exists E such that: if |x-a| < n then |f(x) - f(a)| < E and |g(x) - g(a)| < E. (n = min(n1, n2) in the continuity definition of f and g)
Then we assume f(a) <= g(a) first. Now i'm stuck
here min(f(a), g(a)) would be f(a)
i don't know how to get min(f(x), g(x)) tho
i need to assume f(x) <= g(x) too first?
min(f,g) = (f + g - |f-g|)/2
how do i put that in the definition?
Do you know that the sum and composition of continuous functions is continuous?
yes
Now since f,g and absolute value are continuous this means that f,g is the sum/composition of continuous functions and itself continuous
I would try to make wlog two cases first:
âą f(a) > g(a)
âą f(a) = g(a)
Can you tell me why the first case is easy?
if f(a) > g(a); i can only know that min(f(a), g(a)) = g(a)?? but i dont know how to get the conclusion that min(f,g) would be continuous
By intermediate value theorem we know that there is a neighborhood (a-d,a+d) such that min(f,g)(x) = g(x) in (a-d,a+d)
sooooo, |x - a| < n means that x in (a - n, a + n) so that would be the neighborhood then since x is in that neighborhood, the min would be g(x) too
Yes
ok, so the min is continuous because the min is g; for the second case; i don't know what the min is
wait, here i dont really get it. Clearly d cannot be anything right? i cannot just say that the neighborhood is (a-n, a+n)?
If you choose small enough (n < d) you can.
but here isnt n a fixed value?
uhh yes actually i understand
thank youuuu
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I am trying to understand this for hours, can anyone help me?
How to go from the first to the second?
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did you try binomial theorem
Binomial theorem was used to get there
So idk why i should use it again
If you want i can send the entire problem, but it does not have much to do with what i am asking
I also did not understand why -1 + sqrt (2) and -1 -sqrt(2) being roots of that polynomial mod 5 leads to that recurrence relation
showing all context is always important
Yeah sorry
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It's a theorem. Given a recurrence like
$$c_k a_n + \dots + c_0 a_{n-k} = 0$$
One can solve this equation:
$$c_k x^k + \dots + c_0 = 0.$$
Let $x_1, \dots, x_m$ be the roots with multiplicities $r_1, \dots, r_m$ respectively. Then
$$a_n = P_1(n)x_1^n + \dots + P_m(n)x_m^n,$$
where $P_j$ are polynomials of degree $r_j$.
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guys i am having problem because how can p,q,r and s be in a same plane
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wondering if i did this problem correctly?
yep, that's correct
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hey can someone explain this
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i slept through the class and was awoken by this assignment
we were tasked to pick 2 problems to solve
i would appreciate it if someone helped me solve this step by step ^^
first find ur 'new' x and y
x = X cos theta - Y sin theta
y= X sin theta + Y cos theta
and then u can substitute them into the given equation and simplify
(i would choose the question with theta = 45 degree , cuz cos(45) = sin(45) but u can choose question 20 for a change in question)
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hi
hmm
thank you!!
i cant seem to find any videos with this topic
do you have any recommendations?
search something like
rotation of conic sections
probably gonna find a few
also ping me if u reply :d
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Please help me find the limit of d)
do you know calculus?
key is probably conjugate, have you tried this ?
oh yes this does work
multiplying with the conjugate should work
yaku in C++ arc?
segfault core dumped
day and night actually xd
im loosing hp but im fine
also shouldn't it be cout<<"YakuBros"<<endl;
ah makes sense
nobody can change me except going with an &

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On the left side box how did they use -5 to get -29/2 and 145/2
Maybe -5 * R1 gets added to R2
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Where does -5 + 8 come from
-5 plus the 8 in the 2,2 position
Cuz 5-5 makes it zero and I assume it does that for the rest
5 * R1 added to R2
means 5 times the entries in row 1 gets added to the entries in row 2
please watch that example
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Show that if p is prime and p >= 7, then there are always two quadratic residues of p that differ by 2.
i feel like this is kind of tricky maybe
same idea as the one where they were consecutive
yeah
they need to be 2 away from a square
for example, 2, 3 and 6 should work this time
also, technically for the last one 0 was considered a quadratic residue
ah
so technically 0 and 1 always work
ye that makes sense
but i think they forgot about that
ah
whoever wrote the problem
đ
so hm 2 3 6
either 2 or 3 or 6
if 2
0, 2 (trivially)
if 3
1, 3 (trivially)
if 6
4, 6 as 4 = 2^2
ok! that makes sense actually
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@iron sun Did I do it right?
Are my logical implications or whatever theyre called correct?
I was just taught about existential quantification
Yes, I mean those statements I did
When you write a statement like that, you are simply asking, does such a number exist and you fulfilled it in the first part
"there exists" seems pretty confusing to me
Yeah so donât use symbols when you donât need to
Id have add something like, " we want to show that : " and after start what you said
there exists means there is atleast 1 situation where something is ... so if you have 1 that works, then it works
Isn't it more of "for the following equation, x is a natural number:"
Oh nice
Its not what it told
This is why you should avoid using symbols without understanding them, just write with words
But yeah you don't need it
It's too verbose?
When youâre solving an equation you want to check all solutions, so this is inherently the wrong statement to write
You want all such natural numbers in your original problem
Itâs just simply misleading for your own sake
What do you mean by "all such"?
If you was really ask to show that there exist a x natural such that your equation true, you won't need the x_2 part which is not what asked here i bet
So if there was some others solution true
Youd be doomed
In your original problem, you wanted to find all natural numbers that satisfy the equation
Yes but what if x2 was also a natural number?
Yes.
Thats why don't say there exist
Then simply use natural language
You donât need symbols for this
Youâd be confusing yourself and possibly others
When is there exists used then?
It is a way of quantifying a predicate, a statement with free variables.
You donât need that for now.
Definition or abstract proof
So it's basically never used in equations?
Never seen
sometimes they could ask you show that there exists an x intercept.
Or sometimes you could say : The sum of 2 consecutive integers is even,
You could disprove it by showing THERE EXISTS a possibility , in which you show, of how this statement is not true
We just learned about ⎠and â so I thought this was relevant
Oh so it's basically only used for proof then
Yes
yeah kinda
,w show me formula of limit definition with epsilon
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Anyway
When youâre solving an equation you usually donât know beforehand the solution. When you use quantifiers youâre usually making a statement about the equation, but it does not give you the solutions, only if itâs true or not
So what's the difference between universal and existential?
There are verbose ways of expressing what youâre looking after, but it would not at all be a more effective way of showing your work in a high school setting; which I presume this is in.
Why does that matter?
Or are you simply curious?
curious
They opposite some kind
Yes that's correct haha
An universal quantifier is a stronger condition than existence in some sense.
It says in essence, that your statement has to hold for all elements youâre suggesting
Itâs a way of quantifying all elements at the same time for the predicate
If I write the predicate x = 1
Then its truth may depend on x
It is for example certainly not the case that x = 1 is true for all natural numbers x
But it is true that there exists a natural number x so that x = 1
This does not however say what x it has to be
Sorry if I'm getting this wrong but in essence, existential is more for specifying an equation, while universal implies that something is that way for all numbers within the domain range?
It doesnât have to be about equations, think of any kind of predicate.
So like P(x): x is bigger than 5
So if our universe for x is natural numbers
Then is the statement
âThere exists an x such that P(x)â
True?
Now in order to show this statement is true
We need to find atleast one natural number x so that, x is bigger than 5.
Can you find one?
6 đ
Yes!
Now, youâve shown the statement is true. But simply knowing whether itâs true or not says nothing about the actual value for x for someone else, unless they in our case follow your proof and use x = 6.
Quantifiers in this instance is simply a tool to logically express the statement we had above
So weâd use the existence quantifier in this instance
Now what if youâre wondering if
âx is bigger than 5 for all values of xâ
is true?
Then youâd express this logically using the universal quantifier
And youâd get a statement that is either true or false
Ohh I think I get it
A bit at least đ
We're gonna go through this in the extracurriculum in 2 years
Donât worry, good on ya for asking such questions this early!
Fun that youâre interested!
Yeah I've always been
Quantifiers are very important and it took me a while to fully appreciate them
Personally I would avoid writing stuff like this as it may potentially confuse you or others! But yes in this instance that looks fine
Yeah because we've been introduced to only ⎠and â so I think it's fitting
Ah I see, interesting
Only a very brief introduction to number types, though (natural, complex, irrational etc)
I see, well in that case go for it!
I will! My semester exams are in 2 weeks
I wish you luck on them in that case!
what do you study?
I'm actually still wondering about this, though đ .. Why is the equation (1-1/x)=4/9 and not 1/x=4/9?
what program is that
It's a Swedish app called NOKflex
wait so are you in uni or school?
Oh youâre Swedish!
Yes
Samma :)
Year 1 in "gymnasium" as we call it
nice
Vet du?
Oj Àr detta bara första Äret, du kommer klara matten fint!
Matte 1c
ahh thats cool, in doing cegep (french province of canada) which is basically the same thing
Nice
Hm, ska se, sÄ vi har att bara ett svar Àr rÀtt för de tvÄ frÄgorna, och bÄde frÄgorna har lika mÄnga svars alternativ, korrekt?
Ja.
Massive tip ill give you is as aslan said becareful with these quantifiers and Idk if your persuing CS or same range but understanding is crucial, especially in a subject like Discrete maths
CS?
Okej sÄ antag att du har x st svars alternativ. Vad Àr sannolikheten att hon vÀljer rÀtt för första frÄgan?
Computer Science
1/x
Kanske?
Hm okej, ser nu vad som bekymrar dig. Ska se om jag tolkar frÄgan rÀtt
AlltsÄ min mattelÀrare sa att det Àr 1-1/x i stÀllet men vet inte varför
Okej nyckeln Àr hÀr att dem ger dig givet vad sannolikheten Àr för henne att gissa fel pÄ bÀgge frÄgorna
SÄ vad Àr snarare sannolikheten att hon gissar fel pÄ en av frÄgorna?
StÀmde det att sannolikheten att hon har rÀtt Àr 1/x?
Hm men varför Àr just den inte 1-1/x?
SÄ vi vill gÀrna ta vara pÄ denna information
Varför inte 1-1/x att hon har rÀtt?
AlltsÄ svaret Àr 3, ja
AlltsÄ om x = 3, stÀmmer det att 1-1/x Àr sannolikheten att hon fÄr rÀtt?
Nej
(Nu struntar vi i förutsÀttningen som ficks men bara mer allmÀnt)
Precis!
SÄ 1/x Àr som du sa först precis rÀtt sannolikheten att hon fÄr rÀtt
Men tyvÀrr Àr detta inte anvÀndbart
Vi vet nu i förhand att sannolikheten Àr 4/9 att hon inte gissar rÀtt för bÀgge
AlltsÄ jag vet att P(rÀtt) + P(fel) = 1
Ja
MÄste vara 1-1/x dÄ
Precis!
Tror jag fattar nu
Nu Àr vi Àven intresserad nÀr hon gissar pÄ nÀsta frÄga, detta görs ju oberoende av den första frÄgan
SÄ vi har att P(fel)*P(fel) Àr sannolikheten att hon gissar fel pÄ bÀgge frÄgor
Exakt
Men vad var detta lika med?
(1-1/x)^2
Vad menar du
I frÄgan fick vi en viktig bit av information
Att P(fel)*P(fel)=4/9 eller?
Japp!
Tack sÄ mycket, jag förstÄr nu.
Vad Àr bilden?
Uh vad menar dem med âfĂ€rgâ tro?
HjÀrter fem sÀkert
13?
Mhm, eftersom 4*13 = 52 om jag inte rÀknar fel
Okej, men nu har du ju redan 3 st hjÀrter, korrekt?
Precis men Àven frÄn antalet hjÀrter. Men kom ihÄg att du Àven har 2 st ointressanta kort innan du byter kort, sÄ du borde ta bort ytterliga 2 kort frÄn totala
Just det.. 47
SÄ, sÀg att vi först byter en av korten
Precis innan detta görs
DÄ finns som sagt 47 kort i kortleken, varav 10 Àr hjÀrter
Och sedan upphöjt till tvÄ?
GÄnger!
Just det.
Hoppas jag inte har missat nÄgot, brukar vara ur usel pÄ sannolikheter
Hm
De kanske gjorde ett fel?
Om nÄgon har gjort fel sÄ Àr det med störst sannolikhet jag
AlltsÄ det Àr bara en decimal ifrÄn
Tittar igenom nu ifall jag har missat nÄgot
JAHA
Det Àr ju sÄ klart 9/46
Eftersom ett kort eliminerades
Men det mÀrkliga Àr ju att vi ersÀtter ett ointressant kort tillbaka, dÄ behÄlls ju totala antalet kort?
Eller kastar vi dessa ivÀg?
Oklart alltsÄ
Men det verkar ge rÀtt svar Ätminstone
De var bara otydliga antar jag
Ja
NÀsta Àr: Hur stor Àr chansen att du fÄr stege (3, 4, 5, 6 och 7)?
Som sagt, jag Àr inte den bÀsta pÄ dessa
Jag ska försöka skriva lösningen hÀr
Tipsar stort ifall du vill fÄ rÀtt svar att öppna en kanal pÄ nytt och frÄga pÄ engelska :)
52-(5 kort i handen) = 47 kort
(1/47)(1/46)(1/45)(1/44)(1/43)
Du var 0.1 procent ifrĂ„n đ
Nu blev det lite fel...
Jag tÀnker för snabbt.
Har ocksÄ nÀmligen plugg att göra som jag prokastinerar med haha
Ta din tid!
haha ja
Matte skadar inte
Trevligt att fÄ trÀffa en svensk; men mÄste tyvÀrr plugga jag med, hoppas du hittar nÄgon som kan hjÀlpa!
Jaha, okej, inga problem!
Jag ska sova nu ÀndÄ
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@iron sun Vill bara sÀga att jag förstÄr uppgiften nu!
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Bara ville sÀga snabbt
JassÄ hurdÄ om man fÄr frÄga?
Eller nej, det var typ rÀtt. AlltsÄ jag trodde det var 4/47*4/46, eftersom vi redan har 3 av korten för stege (3, 4, 7). DÄ ÄterstÄr 2 kort. Och eftersom det finns fyra valörer/fÀrger gjorde jag sÄ. Men facit sÀger att det Àr 8/47*4/46. Varför 8 i stÀllet för 4?