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granite anchor
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no its not log9 18 its just log 18

lament kraken
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is just log 18

granite anchor
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yeah

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if there is no number on the log its assumed to be 10 and u dont need to put it

stray spade
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also not log9 2 just log2

granite anchor
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yeah

lament kraken
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power rule: says log_a(b^c) = c log_a(b)

granite anchor
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yeah

languid iris
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the expand part

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its lowk confusing

granite anchor
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so its like

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imagine u have for example

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log(16)

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u can make it

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log (4^2)

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no even better

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log(2^4)

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and u move the exponent outside

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4log2

lament kraken
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go to definiton of log and its intutive

granite anchor
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so whatever power u have just take it outside to multiply it

languid iris
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ahh

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alright

solar goblet
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mathematicians assume log as base 10, physicists assume log as base e, computer scientists assume log as base 2

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granite anchor
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oh wow i wasnt even aware of that

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ok on the bottom that's what it tells him so he prolly dont gotta worry about those yet

languid iris
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What yg thinking

stray spade
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bring down the exponent

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the exponent x - 1

languid iris
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so x-1log2 6

stray spade
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yeah

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but use parenthesis to not make it ambiguous

languid iris
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(x-1)log2 6

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thx bro appreciate it

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whenever i try to solve this,

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i get like the biggest denominators

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i got x/15/4 = 18/5

solid hull
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Do you have any examples of how you would solve it?

wheat basin
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can u just see if thats correct or not

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Alright

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calm patio
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can someone quickly explain

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why the bounds are -4 and 4

restive river
calm patio
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but if the radius on the left side and right is 5

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and the radius of the drill bit on the left side and right is 3

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why not 5-3

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gimme a sec

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watch this video

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given that y=x-1 the straight line and curve equation is (y-1)^2=4(x+1) which is like Y^2=4aX

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here I need to find the area of this shaded area by integration

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so I am looking for some ideas which makes integration easier

rare merlin
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you can integrate in respect to y

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It’s probably ideal to integrate with respect to x first here as a function of y and set your outer bounds as constants (y) so dxdy

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elder goblet
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Someone wrote such formula as a shortest way

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I never saw it

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I'm trying to derive the solution for an underdamped second order differential equation

grand river
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But I end up with a complex sine term at the end, while in the book it isn't complex

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I started from this. But instead of $\alpha$ it's $-\alpha$, and $\beta$ is $w_d$\

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long pasture
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hmmm, I have worked a bit on this question, it seems minus one sqrt term on both sides will work, further simplify to something nice like in a conic section

dense lynx
# urban otter

geometric interpretation

this equation describes ellipse with foci (0, -1) and (1, 0)

you can intuitively justify x^2 + y^2 is maximized along the ellipse minor axis, and problem is not hard to solve from here

(side note: this question could also be framed as |z + i| + |z - 1| = 8 to find max |z|)

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urban otter
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I just framed it into coordinate geometry

dense lynx
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yeah I guessed

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anyway still just think about it geometrically,
basically all complex number questions that look like that should be done this way

urban otter
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ahhh right it represents an ellipse

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I suck at conic sections lol

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subtle shell
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i know i have to use points in hte graph and ha and properties to find an equation but not sure how

subtle shell
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how do i do that?

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subtle shell
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i dont think we were taught this in class (at least not yet), but it makes sense to use this to find equations. during class my teacher said to use the formula y=ab^(c(x-h))+k

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and to find points on the function and ha to find possible values for a, b, c, h and k

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I found the points (-4, -3), (-5,-1) and ha: y= -4

subtle shell
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can i ping helpers?

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ill wait like 10 minutes first

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<@&286206848099549185>

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i means it 5AM so makes sense they arent as many helpers avaible now , thank you edmund for helping me

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subtle shell
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thx

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im still stuck 💀

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i dont really understand lagrange interpolation

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all i know if that for y=ab^(c(x-h))+k, the value for b will be 2 since it goes down 2 units from each point and the value for k will be -4 since the ha is y=-4

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im lost on the rest

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untold pivot
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Is anyone familiar with what $\rho(D) \equiv 0 \pmod u$ could mean here?

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somethingwrong

sand dove
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Rho(D) is a multiple of u

untold pivot
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but isn't u an integer while \rho(D) is the image of D

sand dove
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In cardinal probably

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In cardinal

untold pivot
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that means the number of elements in the set?

sand dove
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Yes

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coral violet
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english?

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coral violet
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alright!

wary ginkgo
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1 Show that Vx€ [1, +inf] ; rac(x-1)/x <= 1/2

2 (a) Show that: (V(a;b) R'xR'); a+b=0 <=> a=0 and b=0.

2 (b)Deduce that: (V(x;y)€ R²): rac(x²+1) + rac(x²+1) = 2 <=> x =0 and y = 0

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coral violet
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can you give me 5 mins?

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alright..

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so listen..

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to do this, you need to consider the minimum value of rac(x^2 + 1)

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Its 1 right?

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and the minimum lf rac(y^2 + 1)

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its 1 again

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notice how 2 is the sum of their minimum values?

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if we take other values for two terms and add it, then the sum is always greater than 2

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so, that means they MUST be their minimum

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And their minimum occurs at only 1 value for both x and y

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and it is (0,0)

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if you need more info about how it occurs at only one value, you can ask me out!

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coral violet
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alright

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so listen

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♥️

coral violet
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the root fuction is a strictly increasing fuction right?

wary ginkgo
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Yes

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Always positive

coral violet
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mhm…

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so if x^2 is varying from 0 to infinite, the value of the overall function keeps on increasing…

wary ginkgo
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Yes

coral violet
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so we can agree on its minimum occuring at zero?

wary ginkgo
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Yes

coral violet
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and if you put zero, the value of the function is 1

wary ginkgo
coral violet
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So the minimum of the function is 1 right?

wary ginkgo
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Yes

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Ok I get it now

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I have another question.

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1 Show that (Vn€N); n(n+1) is even.

2 Show that the number A=n(n²+5) is even for any natural integer n.

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coral violet
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yes…

wary ginkgo
coral violet
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alright… can we get into dm?

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tex: \left(\frac{{14}}{{121}}\right)^{-3}\cdot\left(\frac{{11}^{{1}}}{{22}^2}\right)^{{2}}\cdot\frac{{7}^{4}}{{11}^3}

question is "Present the expression in the most reduced form of multiplying primes by powers" and i dont understand it can anyone explain it to me please?

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we can factorize each term into a product of primes, for example 121 = 11x11

potent kelp
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whats multiplying primes by powers

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14 = 2x7
121 = 11x11= 11^2
like so..

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carmine cedar
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The last question

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the match type?

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raven leaf
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Can someone walk me through part b please

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twilit comet
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i mean just do it for each side individually?

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not too hard

raven leaf
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should this not be zero

twilit comet
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what is [-eps, eps]^2 supposed to mean

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don't use that notation

faint gorge
twilit comet
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no ik

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i'm just saying it's not very good notation

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ik vector calculus man 😭

raven leaf
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ok why are you nitpicking on notation which is completely clear here rather than the actual problem man

twilit comet
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okay be civil

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i'm only trying to help

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twilit comet
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pointing out something which might confuse other people isn't wrong

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raven leaf
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Your tone suggests "this is easy, why is this even a question"

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I don't think that's very polite, do you?

twilit comet
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and no, it certainly is a common question

faint gorge
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I am not completely sure, but maybe you are supposed to do f(x) = f(n)

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faint gorge
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It should be (-1,0,0)

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arctic field
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which isnt the answer you're looking for

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the key thing to note is that z is not just z

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z is the z-coordinate of the point at which you're integrating

twilit comet
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so you need to actually consider it in the second and third integrals

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it's a constant in the first (although different for both heights)

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twilit comet
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yes

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fyi split the top integral into 2

raven leaf
twilit comet
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one for z = eps, the other for z = -eps

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aaahhhh

arctic field
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z at the point of writing down your integral is no longer z

raven leaf
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understood

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so epsilon i think

arctic field
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there exists a value of z to each side here

raven leaf
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then -eps

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which combines them rather than cancelling

arctic field
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don't worry

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i gotcha

arctic field
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this is the one

raven leaf
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ya

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understood

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yabois a potato

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tis in the name

raven leaf
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awesome, thank you

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kekwait you know discrimson?

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so you have to deal with it there

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wow

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how do i do b

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Hello I am trying to solve this angle between 2 planes question and I am not really able to find it

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I've located the two normal vectors of the planes used the dot product rule and found the cosine

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my answer rounded to 1 d.p was 57.8

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Can u show ur full calculation

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i did 3/4 * 9/10 but i dont seem certain on this answer

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could someone explain how i might go about this question using the "P(X)" please

tall knoll
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what's the "P(X)"

granite verge
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the probability

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alright let's first simplify some notation

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let's let C be the event that the machine is set up Correctly, and R be the event that the parts are of the Required precision

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can you translate the info given in the problem using appropriate probability notation?

granite verge
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C= 3/4
R = 9/10 * 3/10?

tall knoll
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i want probability notation, not just numbers

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P(C) = 3/4 is fine

granite verge
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P(C) = 3/4
P(R) = 27/40

tall knoll
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your second equation is incorrect

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where is that coming from?

granite verge
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90% if C happens
30% if C doesnt ?

tall knoll
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you should be able to construct 3 equations from the given info

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P(C) = 3/4 is one of them

granite verge
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Oh

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P(R) = 9/10
P(R) = 3/10

tall knoll
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P(R) can't be both 9/10 and 3/10

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look at the sentences once more

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If the machine is set up correctly, 90% of the parts are of the required precision

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alternatively, 90% of the parts are of the required precision given the machine is set up correctly

granite verge
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so if C then 90% of parts are of the required precision

tall knoll
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and how do you handle "if C" or "given C" with probability notation?

granite verge
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that line

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P(C|R)

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i think

tall knoll
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that's the probability that the machine is set up correctly given the parts are of the required precision

granite verge
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the only other thing i can think of would be
P(C'R)

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apart from this i am lost, i only ever learnt probability using tree diagrams. teacher taught a bit about probability notation but only to write something like "P(X)=1/4"

tall knoll
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perhaps it would be best if you expanded on what you know about "the line"

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what goes on either side of this line

granite verge
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ok, if possible could you suggest me a video that could teach me the fundamentals of probability notation and how to use them?

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i suck at math. like im really bad. i i need urgent help…i have to hand my assignments tomorrow. and its just too much. The 193 km long country road from A to B was straightened and improved into a 183 km long new road. By how many percent did the driving time from A to B decrease when the speed increased by 10 km/h and it was 80 km/h before the increase

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# restive river i suck at math. like im really bad. i i need urgent help…i have to hand my assig...

Break it down into pieces.

  1. Overall, the problem is asking you to find the percent change in driving time.
  2. Use what you know about percent changes. You're going to need to know the original driving time and the new driving time.
  3. Consider how you can get driving time. You need to know the distance traveled, and at what speed.
  4. You know the distances, so you need to know the speeds.
  5. You know the original speed.
  6. Find the new speed.

Then work backwards to get to your answer.

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its the distance and

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the increase of speeding limit

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so 10km and 10km/h

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but how do i make it percent?

lusty sapphire
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not quite, no

restive river
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…oh

lusty sapphire
# restive river so 10km and 10km/h

you're not trying to find the difference between 10km and 10km/h. Fundamentally, that makes no sense. We're trying to find the difference in travel time. Like, for example, if originally the drive was 2 hours, but now its only 1 hour. You need to find the percent difference.

restive river
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ohhhh

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so

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first i have to figure the time on the original one

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and then the new one

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okay okay

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hold on

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the first one is 2h and 41 minutes

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the second one is 2h

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how do i turn the difference to percent

lusty sapphire
restive river
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lusty sapphire
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2.41 hours does not equal 2 hours and 41 minutes

restive river
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oh…

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true…

lusty sapphire
restive river
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okay so

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2.41

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uhm

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okay i do not get it

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so 193km / 80

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and its 80/h

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2.41

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restive river
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oh

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so how is it not 2h and 41 minutes

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is it because hour has 60 minutes?

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whys math so hard…

lusty sapphire
restive river
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how do i turn 2.41 to hours

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oh

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anyway I gtg. You should be good from here.

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im trying to solve for the derivative, so far im here

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now here

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and then i got stuck

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i need to somehow reach the answer of 1/(x^2+1) ^ 3/2

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oh right

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Cause you should have brought down -1/2 sadCatThumbsUp

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(it just makes you get a - sign for the second term here though, so you can have that one happyCat)

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About why you bring down a -1/2?

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what do you mean by "bring down"

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like move the -1/2 into the denominator?

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As in, you know the whole "x^n differentiates to nx^{n - 1}" rule

frank crag
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yes

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I'm saying that here (taking into account chain rule of course) that your "n" is -1/2, so you're multiplying by -1/2 (rather than +1/2)

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ohhh

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you're talking about the negative

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Yep yescat

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okay, so if i were to add that

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upper schooner
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Yep, what I meant happyCat

frank crag
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how to go to

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as a final answer

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Well, you're aware that $(x^2 + 1)^{-3/2}$ is the same thing as $\frac1{(x^2 + 1)^{3/2}}$, right?

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@upper schooner

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yes

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i just dont know how to get rid of the top part

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and make it a 1

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Well, how about we rewrite what we have a little bit first
[
\frac1{(x^2 + 1)^{1/2}} - \frac{x^2}{(x^2 + 1)^{3/2}}
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@upper schooner

frank crag
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ok i get that

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now get it under a common denominator?

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Yep SCgoodjob2

frank crag
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would factoring work

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like factor out the

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Well, I mean, you may want to factor something else instead to make your life nicer Foxy_Popcorn

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like this?

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Wait hang on a second-

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My eyes glassescat

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The (x^2 + 1) should not be squared (because -1/2 + 3/2 is 1)

frank crag
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oh right

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wait

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im confused on factoring

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so its -1/2 - (-3/2)

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anyways

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so simplifying is 1/ (x^2+1)^3/2

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Yep, that's pretty much it catokay

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why factor out the

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and not the other part

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its probably a dumb question

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As that means that you'd be left with things that only have positive powers after you've factored, so they're a bit easier to deal with (and if you have some foresight, you'd see that you'd instantly get the (x^2 + 1) out, and that the -x^2 would cancel for you)

upper schooner
# frank crag like this?

It's relatively alright to deal with this, but a bit more pain to deal with $\frac1{(x^2 + 1)^{1/2}} \qty( 1 - \frac{x^2}{x^2 + 1} )$

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@upper schooner

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(well, not really that much more pain, to be fair, it's not the worst to deal with(!))

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and my approximation the way i did it was -2/3 which is no where near the real value

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ok so

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i imagine maybe 1/e

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so the anser is -1

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i know the answer since i can just put it in a calculator

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like what should i use for a

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well... i jsut thought like an engineer

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i need help

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im doing simultaneous linear equations

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my qquestion is

median pilot
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I assume we're trying to find what values of x this holds for. What have you tried so far?

storm solar
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i solved it but i just wanted to check if the answer is correct

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my answer for this was

neon wadi
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yes

median pilot
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^

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let me double check. also want to simplify the fraction

storm solar
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if i simplify then answer is x is grreater than 2.5

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-2.5

median pilot
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The only thing I'm seeing different is the greater than vs less than sign. Did it get flipped at some point?

storm solar
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yes

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i had to flip it so that i could divide -10 with 4

median pilot
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I see. You only flip the inequality sign when you divide by a negative number.

So, for example, if you divide by negative 4 rather than positive 4.

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so:
4x < -10
x < -10/4

storm solar
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no in linear equations when there is some number with x and you need to find only x then you flip it and the 4 goes to the other side

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not if its negative or positive

median pilot
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hmmm lets test it. you're saying x is greater than -2.5.

what happens if you try x = 0 (0 is greater than -2.5).

storm solar
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there is no number with x so x = 0

median pilot
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7(x+2) < 3x + 4 [evaluated at x = 0, in other words plug 0 in for x]
7(0+2)< 3*0 + 4
7(2) < 0 + 4
14 < 4

but 14 isn't less than 4, so there must be a mistake somewhere.

storm solar
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then idk

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u can ask someone else

neon wadi
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I'm just showing a way to test out your answer.

But the issue is just where you flipped the sign. You only flip the sign if you multiply or divide by a negative number. If you multiply or divide by a positive number, you do not flip the sign.

storm solar
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also -10 is a negative number so my answer is correct?

median pilot
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Not quite, but you're close.

The rule only cares about the number you are dividing (or multiplying) both sides of the equation by. So the -10 there doesn't matter. The only thing you consider when deciding whether to flip the sign or not is the sign on the 4

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i don't know how to do this, i honestly don't even know where to start

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have you learned what the inner product is?

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because that is what part a is asking you for.

brisk raptor
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the inner product is distributive use that

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I’m not sure where I went wrong

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Because I have to get 10 I. That final pet of the box

junior chasm
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why is it just 7

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before 10

mellow willow
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What do you mean?

junior chasm
mellow willow
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Oh wait

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It is meant to be x

junior chasm
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just x?

mellow willow
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Just forgot to add the variable

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7x

junior chasm
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it is correct

mellow willow
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But I can’t get it into factored form

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Because -1•-3 does not equal 10

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Im really confused

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Because I have to put it in factored form

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But I cant figure out the box

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Ok I did it again but I still can’t find a solution

obsidian nebula
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are you factorising x^3 - 4c^2 -7x + 10 and x-1

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*-4x

mellow willow
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I also tried with long devision and can’t do it

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My teacher might of made a typo

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He does it a lot

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But I have a quiz

obsidian nebula
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I just want it to be confirmed

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Bevause it is almost 3 am

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I’m tired 😭

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So like is this even possible

obsidian nebula
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This should be

mellow willow
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I’ve been stuck on this problem for like a hour

obsidian nebula
mellow willow
obsidian nebula
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wait I think I know whu

torn vessel
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-4-(-1)

obsidian nebula
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here should be -3x^2 as you are subtracting negative x^2

mellow willow
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Wdym

obsidian nebula
mellow willow
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So it equals -3

torn vessel
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you have $-4x^2-(-x^2)=-3x^2$

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Vѳrtєx-

torn vessel
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not -5x^2

obsidian nebula
mellow willow
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What about the box tho

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I’m really confused

obsidian nebula
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remainder at that is $-3x^2-7x$

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VjFaU1dsb3hjRVZhTW1SUFVqQXhibGRY

mellow willow
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Wdym

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Wait I’m confused

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What long division was wrong

obsidian nebula
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and then you subtract $-3x^2+3x$

woven radishBOT
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VjFaU1dsb3hjRVZhTW1SUFVqQXhibGRY

mellow willow
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I still don’t understand where I went wrong with the box

obsidian nebula
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VjFaU1dsb3hjRVZhTW1SUFVqQXhibGRY

mellow willow
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I know I’m repeating myself but I’m very confused

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warped jasper
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in the box method youre just multiplying the 2 numbers of the row and the column onto chosen box right?

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like x^2 • -1

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= 1x^2

mellow willow
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I think

warped jasper
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top number multiplied by side number?

mellow willow
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I got some variables in that

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I haven’t gotton any sleep this week because I’ve had three quizzes and a test

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So I’ve been going to bed at the earliest 3 am since Sunday

warped jasper
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its alright that makes sense

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but do you see where you went wrong in the box?

mellow willow
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I’m trying it again

mellow willow
warped jasper
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you wrote different numbers this time

mellow willow
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Wait

torn vessel
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x^2 times -1 is what?

mellow willow
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I need sleep 😭

torn vessel
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real

warped jasper
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you should prioritise sleep rather than revision

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if ur cooked ur cooked just revise earlier next time

mellow willow
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I’m trying to make the equation x^3+-4x^2+-7x+10 inside the box

mellow willow
mellow willow
warped jasper
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i think the box method only works when you have the long quadratic and youre trying to find a root

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like you already have the numbers on top of the box and you’re trying to find the numbers on the side

mellow willow
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I did it for another EWUATION and it worked

warped jasper
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maybe it was just coincidence or you had the numbers on the side and solved for the top?

mellow willow
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I just realized that is wrong

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I need one more variable

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Omg 😭

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Should I not do the box

warped jasper
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use long division or factor theorem first for questions like that

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i say use the box when you get given
ax^2+bx+c and you have to find a b and c. and you know what one of the variables/root already is

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so you have the numbers on the side and ur trying to figure out the numbers on the too

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top

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also in the box you did before you were so close but you multiplied 3 and 1 and got 4

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ihave to fo now

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Could someone explain me, why do we ^2 both whole sides?

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My idea was that we have 4 terms.

so x+2 becomes x-2

x-2 = root(5x-4)

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But that's where it goes wrong

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So yeah to eliminate square root, you have to multiply the term by itself which in other words is just squaring the term

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But what you do on one side of the equation you must do on the other side so you also have to square the entire other side

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use the fact that the cointerior angles of parallel lines add to 180

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i.e., x - y + 145 = 180 and x + y + 125 = 180

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Sorry

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I got y=45 is that right?

stable wraith
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and for x?

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I got x=45 and y=10

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yup

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Ty

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5x-3y+6x+9y=180?

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Could I also do ×+3y+6x+9y=180?

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Check if function is odd or even: sin(2x)
I'm quite bad at dealing with sin and cos in equations and I don't know how to do this.

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can you check this for f(x) = sin(2x)?

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So at first I wanted to do -sin(2x)=sin(-2x) but at that point I'm already stating it's an odd function.
So I wanted to go with just sin(-2x) and try to get it to the state where I have a*sin(2x) where a = -1 v a = 1 at the end.

But I don't know what to do with sin(-2x)

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so starting from $f(-x)$, $\sin(-2x) = -\sin(2x) \ne \sin(2x)$

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so it's not an even function

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Don't I have to prove it some how rather than just state it?

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I think you're overthinking the problem

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kinda stuck after this step, what do i do?

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is the answer 2?

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For small values… sinx = x

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or sinx/x -> 1

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wont there be an issue if our x/y both are 1 we get sin(k(2))/k?

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forest palm
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hmm yeah you are right, so how do i advance from the step im currently on?

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so

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well

forest palm
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how did you get rid of (x^2 + y^2)

coral violet
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Well…

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Substituting it isnt an issue

forest palm
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are you sure that you can divide like that when its inside a sin?

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Well, yes

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since, as x->0

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here imagine k->0

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so K(x^2 + y^2) ->0

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Yeah i see it now

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cant tell if i made right sub here since i dont see any advancing possible

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since this isn't indeterminant form (0^0, 0/0, inf^inf, etc) you can get the right answer with direct substitution. that would be 9^(9/0) -> 9^inf ~~ inf.

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but there is a more rigorous way

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when a and b are both functions (continuous at the limit), we can use the Composition Limit Law to bring the limit inside the exponential function (because the exponential function--outer function--is continuous). Then we use the Product Law.

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so then this will be (this will take a sec to write)

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$\lim_{(x,y) \to (0,0)} \left(9 + 2x^2 + 2y^2\right)^{\frac{9}{x^2 + y^2 + 2 x^2 y^2}}$

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$\exp\left(\lim_{(x,y) \to (0,0)} {\frac{9}{x^2 + y^2 + 2 x^2 y^2}} \lim_{(x,y) \to (0,0)} \ln{\left(9+2x^2 + 2y^2\right)}\right)$

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there we go 🙂

forest palm
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seems i need to do reading on this 😄

orchid sierra
forest palm
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i didn't follow how we got the 9 there but everything else was clear 🫡

orchid sierra
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you know that "exp" is "e^(something)", right?

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isn't the 9 in your limit twice?

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looks right to me, I copied it the same way you wrote it?

forest palm
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thats a 1

orchid sierra
forest palm
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yes 😭

orchid sierra
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or 7s

forest palm
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But yeah so everything else makes sense then

orchid sierra
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oh good!

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yeah and it really wouldn't matter what number that is for this limit anyway

forest palm
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so this is out e^bln(a)

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from this formula

orchid sierra
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e is the outer function

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the product b*ln(a) is the inner function

forest palm
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which we can solve by using product law

orchid sierra
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the inner function is the product of two functions

orchid sierra
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the outer function and inner function had to be continuous to use composition law lim f[g(x)] = f[lim g(x)]

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and the factors f(x) and g(x) need to be continous at the limit for lim f(x)*g(x) = lim f(x)* lim g(x) to work too

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which they usually are...this being math homework.

forest palm
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wow, everything went in my brain and acctaully stayed. nicely explained 🫡

orchid sierra
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😊

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damn, I'm good at 630 am

forest palm
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ill return the favor by writing my 1s better in the future

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🫡

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Can I cancel units cubed with units squared? I'm trying to find the weight of brass required in kilograms (density is 8.73g/cm3) from an area of 3508cm2

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When I cancelled the units out, I got a total of 30,624.84g, 30.62kg, but for the project I want that seems wildly high

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nvm, its late and I made a really dumb error

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plush harness
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can anyone explain how 2nd to 3rd transition

misty crest
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they subtracted 1

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$1 = \frac{x+2}{x+2}$

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misty crest
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$\frac{x|x|}{x+2} - 1 = \frac{x|x|}{x+2} - \frac{x+2}{x+2}$

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plush harness
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oh thats dumb from me srry

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then distribute the negative

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plush harness
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anyone help me do this.....i dont know where to even start

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ping me plz as im not here

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anyone??

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plz ping me

olive snow
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Try to get rid of abs value by spliting the interval of solving

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wdym?

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im sorry but i am very dumb

olive snow
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Rewrite as a piecewise function your expression

fathom flint
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squaring would work but it'd be lengthy asf

plush harness
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could you explain in a bit more detail

fathom flint
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But since the question is big we have to apply a different method

plush harness
fathom flint
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takes

plush harness
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if you could show me the soln in like a paper thatd be great but maybe like a general walkthrough if you dont have the time

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so whats the approach i should take

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I don’t get the intuition behind how a change in power is all it took to take it from converging to diverging, both graphs approach 0 at infinity, I know it algebraically adds up, but how can one be finite and one be infinite?

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because the rates at which they approach 0 are different

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not entirely sure what you're confused about here

unborn atlas
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Sure, I agree, but how does that make such a significant difference, the rate at which graphs approach 0 can be different yet both can still converge

twilit comet
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it just does lol

unborn atlas
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How?

zealous sinew
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This also confuses me intuitively

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It makes sense mathematically, but not mentally, you know?

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Anyways, I tried asking Meta AI about explaining it to me, and this is what it said:

The intuition behind convergence/divergence of series like ∑1/x^n (p-series) lies in the rate at which terms decrease.
Convergence (p > 1)
For ∑1/x^(p+1), terms decrease rapidly (e.g., 1/x^2, 1/x^3). The sum of these terms is finite because:
Each term is smaller than the previous.
The decrease accelerates.
Think of it like a snowball rolling down a hill, slowing down rapidly due to friction. The snowball's kinetic energy (term value) decreases quickly.
Divergence (p ≤ 1)
For ∑1/x (or ∑1/x^p with p ≤ 1), terms decrease slowly (e.g., 1/x, 1/√x). The sum is infinite because:
Terms decrease, but slowly.
The harmonic series (p = 1) is a border case.
Imagine a snowball rolling down a hill with negligible friction. The snowball's kinetic energy decreases slowly, and it travels far.
Critical threshold (p = 1)
The harmonic series (∑1/x) is a critical case:
1/x + 1/2 + 1/3 + ... = ∞
This series diverges, but slowly.
Why the power matters
Increasing the power (p) accelerates term decrease:
1/x^2 decreases faster than 1/x
1/x^3 decreases faster than 1/x^2
This acceleration affects convergence:
∑1/x^2 converges (∑1/n^2 = π^2/6)
∑1/x diverges (∑1/n = ∞)
The power changes the rate at which terms approach 0, influencing convergence.
Intuitive analogy
Consider filling a bucket with water:
Convergent series (∑1/x^2): Water flows rapidly, filling the bucket to a finite level.
Divergent series (∑1/x): Water flows slowly, overflowing the bucket.
The power (p) controls the flow rate.

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supple knot
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what is "they"

unborn atlas
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Graphs

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1/x and 1/x^2

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they approach 0 at different rates

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it’s obvious when looking at 1/x^p when p< 0 but p=1 itself makes no sense to me

supple knot
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yes they do approach zero at different rates.

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what is "it's" in this sentence

unborn atlas
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So does 1/x^2 and 1/x^3 though, I don’t see it as grounds to determine convergence

unborn atlas
supple knot
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right

unborn atlas
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But I can’t draw a parallel similar to that seen in p=1

supple knot
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the simplest way is just to use power rule for integrals

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have you learned that yet

unborn atlas
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Yes

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I think?

supple knot
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for $p \neq 1$, then we have $\int \frac{1}{x^p} dx = \frac{x^{-p+1}}{{-p+1}} + C$

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riemann

supple knot
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when $p=1$, what's the antiderivative?

woven radishBOT
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riemann

unborn atlas
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1/0?

supple knot
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no

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do you know the derivative of $\log(x)$?

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riemann

unborn atlas
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Yes

supple knot
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what is it

unborn atlas
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$\frac{ln|x|}{x*ln(b)}$?

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Nathan

supple knot
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$\log$ in math means natural log

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riemann

unborn atlas
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?

supple knot
unborn atlas
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log is based on 10 by default no?

supple knot
unborn atlas
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ln isn’t log

supple knot
unborn atlas
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??

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ln assumes log_e

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log itself is assumed base 10

supple knot
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not in higher math but sure

unborn atlas
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wait I’m being stupid

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$\frac{1}{xln(a)}$

woven radishBOT
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Nathan

unborn atlas
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@supple knot

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?

unborn atlas
supple knot
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yes

unborn atlas
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I thought you were asking me to plug in 1 to what you determined next it it I thought it was a big reveal or something

unborn atlas
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Both approach 0

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Meaning it’s essentially a bounded area

supple knot
unborn atlas
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I guess ln(x) approaches infinity sure, but I’m saying graphically it makes no sense to me

supple knot
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$\lim_{b \to \y} \int_1^b \frac{dx}{x} = \lim_{b \to \y} \log(b) = + \y$

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riemann

supple knot
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,w plot log(x)

supple knot
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this logic is your main flaw

unborn atlas
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The antiderivative doesn’t approach 0 yeah I know

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I know the other one does, but why must it

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Again I understand it algabraicly I’m not asking to be told that lnx approaches infinity, I’m saying graphically 1/x and 1/x^2 both approach 0 why can’t they both have finite areas intuitively

supple knot
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have you seen the divergence of the harmonic series?

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and how that compares to the integral of 1/x

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would this be...
a) False (cusp at x = -1)
b) True
c) 2 (x = -1, 0)
d) 2 (x = -1, 0)
e) Down
f) False (2nd derivative is negative because the function is concave down at x = 1)
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I guess it depends on what their definition of critical number is, I'm kind of rusty myself I forget if it means the derivative is 0 or if that also includes when the derivative is undefined or not

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Paul's online notes seems to agree that it's when it's undefined so I think you're right. So that matches since at -1, 0 are the only points in that interval (-2,2) where that's satisfied

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it might be possible that some people only call it a critical point when the derivative is 0 and not when it's undefined and they're using that convention? You'd have to ask your teacher on that before/after class or at office hours I think and see if you can get points back

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or email them maybe

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hmmm oke i will thx

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i just realized x = 1.5

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Hello , this might be a stupid question , but ; when f(x) = x^2 , we have the completed square (x+2)^2 - 5 , to translate the graph we sub x+2 , therefore f(x+2) = f(x+2)^2 , why do we subtract 2 to get back to the original (f(x) = x^2) , I understand its to translate the graph horizontally by -2 , but how does this get you back to the origin ? It gets you further away

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trail eagle
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g(x) = f(x+2) moves f(x) 2 units to the left.

If you want to get back, then notice that g(x-2) = f((x-2)+2) = f(x), which is equivalent to translating g 2 units to the right, i.e undoing the translation you did to f in the first place

dapper crane
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Maybe I incorrectly worded my 'question' , I'm trying to understand why ,by subtracting 2 from f(x+2) gets you a different x^2 curve compared to an x^2 curve that passes through the origin .

trail eagle
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You mean why is f(x+2)-2 != f(x)?

dapper crane
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yes

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i understand 'mathematically ' it isnt , but graph wise i dont

trail eagle
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f(x+2) is translated 2 to the left

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Then you subtract 2 from it, that means you translate it 2 down

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So the total graph has been moved 2 to the left and 2 down

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Not back to its original state

dapper crane
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were subtracting 2 to get back to f(x) no ?

dapper crane
trail eagle
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When you subtract inside the function, the translation obtained is horizontal

dapper crane
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yep

trail eagle
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When you add/subtract outside, it’s vertical

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Think of x^2.
Clearly (x+2)^2 is not the same as x^2 + 2

dapper crane
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ye thats true

trail eagle
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The former has been translated 2 units to the left, the latter 2 units up

dapper crane
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ah ok ,

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but i still dont get why our aim is to get to f(x)

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like , f(x) = x^2 , sub x+2 --> f(x+2) = (x+2)^2 , then subtract 2 (hence translate left by 2) to get to f(x) = x^2

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but if we subtract 2 it results in f(x) = x^2 which is just a parabolic curve that crosses through origin

trail eagle
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What is your original problem

dapper crane
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no problem im just trying to understand , (ifyou need to know its x^2 + 4x - 1 -> (x+2)^2 - 4 -1 -> (x+2)^2 - 5 -> a curve thats minimum point is 2,-5 )

trail eagle
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isnt that the theory to draw the curve

trail eagle
# dapper crane like , f(x) = x^2 , sub x+2 --> f(x+2) = (x+2)^2 ...

And I don’t see what you’re trying to do here. If anything you would start with f(x)=x^2 and then sub in x+2 so as to get

f(x+2) = (x+2)^2
And then subtract 5 to get

g(x) = f(x+2) - 5 = (x+2)^2 - 5

Then g represents your function f that was translated left by 2 and down by 5

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So if you want to draw the curve that’s helpful because x^2 is easy to draw and your function (x+2)^2 - 5 is just that but translated

dapper crane
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so we use f(x) = (x+2 )^2 to help draw the curve

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it isnt the theory to understand why we shift to the left by 2 ?

trail eagle
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If you have a function g and a reference function f then if you can write g(x) = f(x-h) + k, that means that g is actually f translated h units to the right and k units up

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In other words the origin has moved to (h,k)

dapper crane
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sorry I dont understand this g stuff ? is it f(x) ? but like a superior ?

dapper crane
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so does g(x) represent the origin ?

trail eagle
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g is just another function that is a translated version of f

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So if you take the gtaph of f, and move the whole axes to (h,k), the new graph is the graph of g

dapper crane
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so g(x) = f(x+2)^2 - 5

trail eagle
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So that is equivalent to sending the origin to (-2,-5)

dapper crane
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but in reality its just, the parabolic curve hasn't moved, the axis has moved instead ?

trail eagle
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I think you would benefit with playing a bit with desmos

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I used to be able to share a desmos graph idk how to anymore

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But yes the idea is that the curve has moved

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You’ve moved its whole axes

dapper crane
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like is it just to explain it more easily , instead of having to teach the whole g(x) method or whatever in order to understand that the origin has moved

trail eagle
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I mean f is still the same, g is a curve whose graph is the same as f but translated

dapper crane
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?

trail eagle
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f is still defined just like you did in the beginning. It's g that is a representation of the graph of f that has been translated

dapper crane
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making a little bit more sense ...

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so g(x) = f(x+2)^2 - 5 is an 'imaginary' curve ?

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and f(x) is still there we can see it

trail eagle
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There is a reference curve, the one you're comparing to. And a resultant curve, that is the application of the transformation you're doing to it, such as translating by h to the right and k up

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They still exist, just one is a translation of the other

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x^2 is a reference function

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x^2 + 1 can be seen as x^2 translated 1 upwards

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You could also think of x^2 + 1 as a reference function

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And then x^2 is x^2 + 1 translated 1 downwards

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reference = f(x) , the resultant is g(x) , g(x) is an application of transformation on f(x)