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for the triangle c b d how u choose who is negative
cause u have to really understand the point of the relation of chasles
any vector AC can be written as AM + MN
doesnt mattwr what the ppint M is
b-d=C
yes
the arrow need to be like this picture
exactlyy
well i cant know what u quickly understand with
plus triangles can be rotated
but its alright
C = b - d then replace d with the value u found for d
and do algebraic fractions
thats it
np
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A problem about sequences. What is the next number in this sequence: 1/5,3/125,7/125,3/125,31/3125. What I have tried is to look for a common difference or common ratio to work out whether it is arithmetic or geometric however it seems to be neither. I was thinking it may be a polynomial sequence however that lead to nothing either. Any help would be much appreciated. Attached is also a photo of the problem.
Why?
Wow how did you see that??????
Thanks though, I have been so bugged about this for so long
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is desmos correct when it comes to checking if the point is non diff?
or does it gives false positives
well yea desmos shouldn't have problems plotting functions
i disagree it genreally doesnt give continuity correctly
and you can clearly tell that it has two different tangent slope from both sides if you get near the wedge
wdym
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I need advice on one task, which I don't seem to find a solution to
What is it
I love natural logg
found the one
You do? 💀
it's just 1
ohh okay
sorry for the writing
so a and b are both either 0 or 1
exactly
sorry i dont have much experience with this notation
I meant
What is ln
or between 0 and 1
it's like
0 < a < 1
0 < b < 1
the natural log
yess
thats a g right?
Oh i havent been taught that yet
If you have the second line in mind, it's a nine
ok so basically how to prove it
what are your workings so far
or are you unsure of how to proceed
Using the known informations, we have to prove the third line
I feel as if I've been going in a circle for the past hour
what have you tried?
One of the closest ways I've reached is something like
ln(ab) =< -6
other, much longer attempts, seem to be futile
wait I mixed it up
It's
ln(1/a) * ln(1/b) = 9
in the second line
but I concluded that it'd also be equal to
[ ln ( a^-1 ) * ln ( b^-1) ] = 9
so that would equal to
lna * lnb = 9
as far as I'm concerned
But I'd also like to mention, that I went as far as to ask artificial inteligence about this
and for some reason it came up with
lna * lnb = -9
im back
which honestly suprised me
i got garlic bread
splendid
wait why would it be -9
I have no dam clue
that's why I not only cannot read the solution it has written with these mashed symbols, but I also don't really respect it
fair
Well, with all that being said, I'm back to square one yet again
what if you just try some random value for ln(a)
and you figure out what multiplies to get 9 from there
now I came up with sth like this
but this doesn't help with the fact that ab can be lower than 1/e^6
so this still doesn't get me anywhere closer to proving this
I suppose that
lna * lnb = 9
is there to solve this, but I don't see any way I could break the left side down...
neither am I...
and I'm loosing a great deal of time just because of this roadblock 😔
<@&286206848099549185> I call upon thee
afk for a bit, hope somebody'll find a way to deal... with this
in case, this is the task itself:
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how do you infer starting at the y-intercept of 3, and then going up 1 and to the right 2 from there. from the equation?
Update: Attempt 27th successfull
well, when the equation is in y-intercept form, as this one is, then it's sort of a pattern matching exercise
if y = mx + b, then b is the y-intercept and m is the slope
I see, going up 1 and 2 to the right is just doing the 1/2 slope,
didn't know y = mx + b either, good to keep in midn
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i’m having a hard time grasping the concept of integration by table
i know there’s more to substituting the u after defining what out u is but can someone explain how i actually solve this pls
i tried watching organic chemistry tutor and other videos as well but it’s still rlly confusing to me 💔
are you talking about integration by table or integration by reverse chainrule/u-substitution? @wind elm
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integration by table
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Locus of points equidistant from a point
• Locus of points equidistant from a line
• Locus of points equidistant from a line segment
• Locus of points equidistant from two points
what do these mean??
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im lost and dont know where to start
like do i just plug in the bounds they give me and replace da for dx dy
yes
oh bruh my friend made it seem like it was so much more complciated than that
🤣
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Which one is da secant? Da hypotenuse?
secant line is the dotted line
Da hypotenuse yeah?
ya
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I have to show that this function is uneven. The explanation in the end says f(-x) = -f(x) therefor its uneven.
The part i really didnt get in the explanstion is how they got to the second and third line
They show how they are adding 1 and subtracting 1
But like how does whats on the left turn into whats on the right.
$\frac{e^x + 1 - 1}{e^x + 1} =\frac{e^x + 1}{e^x + 1} + \frac{- 1}{e^x + 1} = 1 - \frac{1}{e^x + 1}$
Azyrashacorki
Oooh yeh that makes sense, thanks! But like how does this entail that f(-x) is the same as -f(x). Cause the answer says after this that the function is uneven because f(-x) is the same as -f(x)
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Could someone please explain how u get 2*-2 if u do f(2-p) + f(2+p) in the formula?
How do u write equations like that?
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that's a mistake. should be (2-p) + (2+p)
bruhhhhhhhhh
first of all there is no thing like uneven, its called odd
for odd fn, you just have to prove that f(x) = - f(-x)
You can check this
i think you should solve it yourself first instead of directly seeing the solution
i think there is an error
they have written that they are taking a = -2
but in LHS they have written a as 2
so i think that would be -2
f(-2-p) + f(-2+p) and that'd work
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@spare isle its 7
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Was genau?
my german is not that good so english would be better for me
Ok
so?
What have you been trying to understand for 2 hours?
i can’t proove it because it could also be equal to m
What could be equal to m?
If r=m then you could choose q‘ = q+1 and r‘ = 0
Or what do you mean
but like i can choose different ones but if there is 2 different ones that equal to the same thing one would make it incorrect
I don’t know what you mean. Could you give an example?
so r+1 could be equal to m1 but also not has to be because q could change right?
or m
If for r+1 = m for your given m, then you don’t choose r_2=r_1 + 1. You choose r_2=0 and q_2=q_1 + 1
You can show that that means the equation holds
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What i dont get is yes i can choose not to but i also can choose to do it that way right?
How would i show that with complete induction?
<@&286206848099549185> i really need help please
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someone please help
It says „there exist numbers such that“. That’s shown if there’s one pair for which it works, even if it doesn’t work for another pair
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@toxic night I don’t think it’s clear to anyone what your question is. Maybe try rephrasing it or giving an example
I don’t know how to rephrase it, how do i solve this with mathemathical induction?
like the one with 3 steps
first one for the smallest n
seccond one for k
and third for k+1
Base case: n=0, m>0 is arbitrary. The case holds for q=r=0.
Induction hypothesis: say k=m*q+r for a given m and 0<=r<m
Induction step: if r+1<m, then k+1=m*q+(r+1)
If r+1=m then k+1=m*(q+1)+0
In both cases 0<=r<m
That’s the general idea
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What did I do wrong? I asked my professor, and they said this:
Help with Problem5:
Since the Series Index (n) and the Partial Sums Index (N) do NOT start at the same value (n=5 while N=1),
we must write out the Partial Sums and find a pattern in terms of N (not n).
Write out S_1, S_2, S_3, etc. simplify each and look for a pattern in the final expression in terms of N.
Let me know how it goes.
I still don't know what I did wrong
once again, show the formula
so just the sum from 5 to infinity of the function?
NO
it's something in your notes or book
go find it
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What rule did they use to get rid of the h on 9h?
And can u explain why it works like that?
@tall knoll so the numerator can be cancelled out based on the dividing variable on a complex fraction
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For AP Calc am i suppost to know the deriviative of 11(pie)/6. I never learned the derivative of that and im just confused how it turned into 3(2squareroot3/3)^3
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you cant find the derivative of 11(pi)/6, that is just a constant, all they are doing is plugging in a value for x
so there just doing 11(pi)/6
yeah, if you plug 3sec^2(11pi/6) into a calculator, it should just come out as 4, just make sure you know how to do it without one
yea i have no idea how to do it without a calculator
do you know how to use a trig circle?
isnt pi 180* here?
nope
trig is kinda my weakness
might be worth memorizing this if your teacher dosn't allow calculators in tests
I remember the teacher saying 30* 60* and 90* is the only ones you hae to remember
for cos and sin
bc thats is what is going to be on the ap test
i mean fair enough, 45 is nice too though.
if you memorize those, you can use them to find the rest
i see there is 2 values for 11(pi)/6
would i use the x or y value one
i assume y?
nah, since its secant, that's 1/cos, and cos is the x value
watch the khanacademy video, he explains it pretty well, im supprised your teacher hasn't brought it up
she has but i havent understood the unit circle or trig a lot
in geomotry i didnt do well
ima watch the vid now and hopefully it helps
thats fair, trig can be kinda tricky, but if you are planning on going into stem at all it can be worth spending some time getting trig down
tbh after ap calc im going to prob throw it away
im just studying it so i can pass ap calc
you gonna need a lot more trig to pass ap calc to be honest
oh great 😭
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Ive watched both khan academy vids but they dont show this at all
is it something i have to memorize with no tricks?
just memorize the first quadrant and use identities to get the others
trig identities. you should know most of these: https://www.mathsisfun.com/algebra/trigonometric-identities.html
and the ones in this section https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_trigonometric_identities#Reflections,_shifts,_and_periodicity
In trigonometry, trigonometric identities are equalities that involve trigonometric functions and are true for every value of the occurring variables for which both sides of the equality are defined. Geometrically, these are identities involving certain functions of one or more angles. They are distinct from triangle identities, which are identi...
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what is this technique called?
for example, suppose you have to prove a statement for an operator with multiple elements
what you do instead is you prove it for two elements
and then for multiple elements we just do them in pairs
is this mathematical induciton?
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My work is pretty messy, but I got
my eigenvalue is = 0
the eigenvector is the 1/2 over 1
The thing I am the most unsure about is that last term
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The eigenvalue is right, the eigenvector looks right. Where does the t come from?
because its a defective matrix to find the second part of the equation we multiply C2 by the first eigenvector * e^(stuff) times t then add in the unknown vector
i think
its this equation
soooooo
setting the Matrix * unknown vector = solved eigen vector
then solving for what that unknown vector is
So you’re saying that is a separate eigenvector for the matrix?
I'm.... just gonna go ahead and find someplace else to ask
Wait
https://matrixcalc.org/vectors.html#eigenvectors({{4,-2},{8,-4}}) you should get the same eigenvector twice
i dont mean this insultingly
but i know that
im solving for the unknown vector
the rho in the context of the equation i sent earlier
that equation is the format that the general solution should be in
Okay yeah it’s been a long time since I’ve solved one of these problems
It be like that, I can barely remember how to solve problems from classes i took only a year ago
I took diff eq about 5 years ago, and it was tricky then lol
anyway, unless you think pinging helpers will net me someone whos taken it more recently
im gonna go ahead and close this and hunt for someone else
Yeah good luck, from what we did so far you’re on the right track
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Determine for which X in the range -pi - 2pi the equation has true statements.
I'm stuck on the second solution, am I not supposed to subtract the first solution from pi to get the second one as it's a sinus function?
I get 0,93 for the second solution but it should be 4,08
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I don't know how to do this
It's basic math sure but idk wethwr to answer from left to right or answer by doing different steps instead
Do I use pemdas??
Help??
Emergency cuase I need to go to bed in like 5 mins
I'm serious
Bro I don't wanna chatgpt this😭😭

Yes I assume you should since the title says order of operations
Ok ty
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Ik I’m supposed to be mature in typing this but like I don’t even know what to do for this whole worksheet 😭 I swear I was crashing out today in class and the teacher was js yelling at the class 🧍♀️
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chat how do I get help..
by being specific
very vague still
pick a problem perhaps
how to begin on what?
is there a problem you're stuck on? it looks like you're doing pretty well
FR?
oh wait my bad
You mean it?
Are they all correct?
I mean for the ones I’ve answerd so far
nah 4c is wrong
and 5a angle 2
nvm
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No cause
To find X I have to label the bottom two Y to find like
I’m not sure how to explain it well
But
yea
what
i think you got confused is all
The Y’s are supposed to be there to solve for X tho?!
wait can you explain what you tried to do?
okay let me show u
so basically
Since the triangle is an isosceles or whatever
The bottom has to be the same
And since the top part of the triangle is 33
That must mean that the bottom two have to be a variable
And since I’m solving for X I can’t use X cause then it’s gonna be funky
And to find X which is on the outside of the triangle if you look closely
The top part (33) then add the answer I got from 33+2x=180
i don't see where you get that from
can you explain?
okay let me like
draw this out
OH WAIT I SEE WHERE I WENT WRONG
STOP NO BUT LOOK
idk if this helps
but
good job
I DID IT RIGHT?
looks right
YAYYY
imma go to bed, ask someone else if u need more help ig
it's like 12:30, forgive me xd
I have to wait ten hours again chat..
hey chat I still need help solving the triangles at the top and the entire worksheet!! (I need help on how to begin ^~^)
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Could you please send me the question again
I js need help with 6,7,8 and the back side
- If the legs of an isoceles triangle are 6x-6 cm and x+9 cm long and the base is 2x+10. Find the length of the base
- Explain why a triangle cannot have two obtuse angles in it
Okay
Perfect!
So if x+9 is one side 6x-6 is the other side
Shouldn't they just be equal
?
I need an image to show this 😭
bc I don’t understand the legs
like Are the legs the two sides that are congruent or ?
Thank you
.
Uhajsshsjsishsiddhdidd
OH WAIT
AHHH
so like
don’t tell me
js tel me if I’m right or wrong
so it would be like
erm
6x-6=x+9 ?!!!
Yup
Fr?
OKAY
I GOT IT
x=3
So to find the length of the triangle
I have to get all sides of the triangle
Erm
I got it
can we do 7 now
what is the sum of the angles in a triangle?
dope name btw
wild bio though
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Hiya, I'm watching this video: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA5ZTgnoHcs), and the guy is setting up his eigenvectors at 1:40 or so, from this matrix. He says that a is 0 (which I can see), but he sets b as 1 'for simplicity'. I know we can't have a zero length eigenvector, but I tried to set b as 2 and I got a completely different value for C2 (3/2) than his value (b=1, C2=3). I asked GPT why this is and it says something about 'automatic scaling of eigenvectors' for IVP's, but I'm not really understanding, as I got a different solution, which doesn't seem right to me.
Do I need to scale my C2 based on eigenvector length or something?
(If I'm using a 'non-convenient' second eigenvector - probably worth noting that this is a case of I don't understand why (0,1) is more convenient than (0,n))
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need help with 11c
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bro I am the slowest person on earth 😭
my bad cuh and thanks 🤑🙏
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send in english plsss
gimmie a moment to translate wait
You have to find the angle v
b) Determine the acute angle v between the line l and the second axis.
ok
a sec
sure!!
you can use trigonometry
yikes....
take the point for x = 2 that is in the l line
3y = 8+12
you MUST fix your algebra skills
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how can simply this
5(x+1)/(x-1)(x+4)
$\frac{5(x+1)}{(x-1)(x+4)}$
OHHELLNAH
you mean this?
yes
i see
nope
you need to write additional ( ) in the denominator 5(x+1)/((x-1)(x+4)) if you write it with text like you did
ty
sorry for this question it was kinda dumb but ty
go to an open help channel
sure
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Since when can you do this with logs. Bringing the 1 over to make -1💀
hmm seams fine to me
You can do that with any equation, rearranging it to make the log the subject, of course logs are allowed to be negative
They brought over the 1 to make -1
I didn't know you could do that
The log is ln(x+1)
So how can you just bring the -1 over
+1
Why do you think that wouldn't be allowed? What would you think stops you from subtracting 1 from both sides?
strange if it were in the log then
Yea if it was actually in the log to begin with, you can't do that, and neither can you drop the 
Yeah, I was finding the y intercept and was like why isn't it working
X intercept I mean
They broke maths yet again😭
Surely I'm not wrong
They can't just leave that 1 there
Yea they've either quoted the original wrong, or used the wrong equation subsequently 
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hi, i need help with this proof, where have i made a mistake?
Hello
@rich wagon I would recommend you recheck the step where you assumed u = lnx ^n
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I'm not sure if I just big brained this and skipped a whole lot of trouble or just completely wrong
fr
i dont see anything wrong xD
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f(t) represents an external force, but the position of the spring might be different. so I think you'd have to solve the ODE
but that's probably correct?
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Hey ! I’ve been struggling with this one for a while now can yall please help me with it ?
did you try a substitution?
I tried but since I don’t really get the technique I kind of got lost in the process
Okay i will give a hint
See if you can follow through.
Assume e^-x^2 as some u
See where you get from there
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Umm
take the derivative and see
Not sure what you mean by that
When you took the derivative
What did you get?
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Like this ?
it shld be -ve 1/2
Oh right I forgot the minus my bad , but thank you very much !
Added it 
Thanks !
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The question is to find p(A)
Can someone tell me does the way is to find
2A^2 -3A -1
or
matrix
p1 p2
p-1 p1
the first 1
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combine
i think i have it done
but
im second guessing myself
common denominator makes it -3(5x+3)-(3x+1)/(3x+1)(5x+3)
right?
and from there
-15x-9 - 3x+1 = -18x-10
this is correct 🙂
yes
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"The Least Squares method requires that the regression curve is linear in the unknown parameters (e.g. m and b, or a, b, and c). In fact, there is an exact formula for finding these values"
I'm confusing, how is a quadratic equation linear?
when using the sum of least squares, if we try to find an equation of the form ax^2 + bx + c, that's not linear, that's quadratic
Linear in the parameters
That means, a, b and c need to follow a linear form
What it's not allowed is something like $\frac{x^a + b \cdot x} {c}$
Max Hetfield
Got it?
im a little confused what this means. Why would a, b, c, or m be able to be anything other than a scalar multiplicative?
Max gave an example of how they aren't, like $x^a$, the a is not a scalar multiple
like for f(x) = e^(gx)
g is a scalar value
i still dont really get that.. a is a constant coefficient, a doesn't change
linear in the parameters means that the parameters don't appear in exponents, and can't be multiplied by another parameter
what do you mean by "can't be multiplied by another parameter"? 😅
https://datascience.stackexchange.com/questions/12274 has a pretty good explanation I think
my prof didn't really teach this very well
first checked answer explains linearity over something
what does "parameter" mean in this context? Like if you have an equation f(x) = 5x^2 + 2x - 3
5, 2, and -3 are fixed... I thought x was the parameter to the function f?
float f(float x){
return 5*(x^2) + 2*x -3;
}
No, precisely 5, 2, and -3 are the parameters
so a parameter is different to a variable?? But then that means a parameter is a variable too?
First question: Yes. Second: No, although I may understand a bit your confusion
I would say that a, b, c are only a "variable" when you're fitting the model.
my brain kinda thinks of this programmatically, I know it's a bit of an issue 😅
It's not bad to think like that in this context
Think for example
linear_regression(a, b, c, x)
When you're fitting the model, a, b, c are free
But once you find their values
it becomes
linear_regression(5, 2, -3, x)
oh I think I get it...
And x is the thing that will always be varying
does linear in hte context of parameters refer to the change of those parameters? Like they can only vary linearly?
OH, WAIT
what if it was.. (a^2)*(x^2)?
would a still be "linear"
my head hurts.. I guess my issue is that linear when referring to coefficients isn't the same "linear" as when talking about the form of an equation
It's exactly that
Don't worry, it was the same for me when I learned it
so... they aren't the same?
Max Hetfield
Linear coefficient and non-linear variables
$a \cdot \ln{x} + b \cdot (x \cdot y) + c$
Max Hetfield
Max Hetfield
Non-linear coefficient and non-linear variables
Well, you can imagine that one...
The first 2 cases can be dealt with using linear regression
The last 2, you need non-linear methods
agh, my head hurts
Max Hetfield
Although you can easily transform that to a linear form
And after that you can use linear regression on it
Nah, don't worry. Just remember by definition:
Linearity of parameters: a, b, c's grade needs to be 1 or 0
im so lost... im sorry.. My teacher just dumped this on us and didn't explain a single thing
Linearity of variables: x's grade needs to be 1 or 0
if the degree of a b or c were 0 then it'd just be 1, no?
Yup, thus fitting the linear form as a constant (intercept)
a^0 = 1
oh
oh
wait but.... I still don't get how a can be linear in x^a. x^a is not linear (it's a polynomial), a is just some number... it's a^1 = a
No, a is not linear in such case, because it is behaving as a power
Nah, it's easy
Actually the way you solve those parameters makes a lot of sense, computationally speaking
And precisely non-linear regression is way harder, because you usually cannot use closed-form solutions
As in there are no analytical/exact/easy solution for that, so you got to use numerical methods
While you can solve linear forms via linear algebra
And that linear algebra can be sped up via decompositions and algorithms
say I have x and f, where f(x) = ax
x -> ax
it's scaled by some value a at a constant rate, therefore linear, I think I get this.
Now say I have x and g, where g(x) = x^b
x -> x^b
it's... exponentiated? It's scaled by some ever-increasing value? How would I describe b
x is a polynomial of grade b.
right, but what is b? Is b linear? Is b exponential?
b is exponential in this context
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so the location of the parameter determines whether or not something is linera or non-linear?
Yes, not a very formal way to put i, but yeah. Also if it's enclosed or participating in a function
This can help you too https://datascience.stackexchange.com/questions/12274/what-does-linear-in-parameters-mean
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Hello can someone help me isolate the Y
Write Y with x only
what's that 1st symbol under the root btw
ok
Never mind I found it
so
sqrt(1 + y^2) - y = x
sqrt(1 + y^2) = x + y
1 + y^2 = (x + y)^2
1 + y^2 = x^2 + 2xy + y^2
1 = x^2 + 2xy
1/x = x + 2y
1/x - x = 2y
y = (1/x - x)/2
smth like this
ayy np
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So
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Alright, different question then.
Gotta find the angle ABC.
But I end up with 1/√2
Maybe I did something wrong? Perhaps?
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you seem to keep forgetting that dot-product is to multiply the components then sum them
- recheck c, use component-wise definition of dot-product
- recheck d, you need to copy down the parentheses too, its ((6; -8) + (6, -9)) • (-25; 0) which is (12; -17) • (-25; 0)
- recheck e, the dot product v • w is incorrect, then multiply this number with ||u||
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Hello, I am working on real analysis and am trying to solve the following problem.
It's a summation of an infinite series, and I'm not sure how to approach it. I don't have much experience with solving infinite series at this level, and most of the resources I found online discussed things which were much simpler than this.
There is no definition for alpha
When q = 0, it converges to 0
This makes me think that the infinite sum of all different q would be 0, but I need to prove that
If alpha = 0, it converges to 0
try bounding it
what do we know about sin
can we bound this term by term using another series that may converge?
very helpful is $|\sin \varphi | \leq 1$ is true $\forall \varphi$
jan Niku
I can show you the original question
are you tasked to find a value?
Yes
But the only information provided is the |q| < 1
hmm i didnt think this was closed form
What do you mean?
searching suggesting using exponential form of sine
i didnt think it was known
,w exponential form of sine
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so if you rewrite
distribute
group under an exponent
all terms without n are constant
all pieces with n should form a geometric series
seem reasonable?

that's using euler's identity
indeed
very cool stuff involving complex numbers, you should check it out later
Ok then
I'll check it out later then
I'll do my best to solve the problem using this and see where I get too
you can alternatively use sin(x) = Imaginary(e^(ix))
though it only works if q is real
so euler formula for sin is good
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So I can't solve this problem can someone help?
x and y
and b is any constant
well let b = 1 or b =0
you can do that
cuz b is "any" constant
so the equation must hold true
for every value of such b
hence u can take any arbitray value of b
and solve for x and y
that is completly valid
this is what I did
Idk
oh i think i have seen ur mistake
Where?
asked chat gpt this is what he said
I added the /6
to remove the 6 from both sides
nvm I will move to the next one
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Can someone help me work out the Norton Equivalent current. I've managed to work out the Equivalent Resistance but can't seem to work out the current?
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find the amount of current that passes between terminals a and b if you place a short circuit between them