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hollow walrus
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how do you calculate that

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radiant anvil
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actually

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u can just look at the squares that can fit

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and take the area of each

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eg a 4 by 4 square would contribute 1 to 16 squares, so it effectively contributes 16 to the total sum. @hollow walrus

hollow walrus
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hollow walrus
radiant anvil
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count the total number of each square size

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then compute their total areas

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eg for 1 by 1 squares, the total area would be 100(number) * 1(area) = 100

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2 by 2 squares total area would be 9 * 9(number) * 4 (area) = idk

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do it for all squares

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sonic arrow
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sonic arrow
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Not sure how they were able to get that transformation

reef solstice
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i solved this ques by finding range

I got the ans but everywehere they used other method by finding minima of denominator

so i am correct ?

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So y = 2×2 ^ -(x-1) ²
So the graph of y will be just the graph of f(x) but having twice the slope and being shifted one place right by 1

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sonic arrow
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I am no good at translations

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ignore previous messages, why does the negative sign not do anything

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wooden lance
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lol

sonic arrow
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does the -1 before the square have no effect?

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last egret
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guys im not getting

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last egret
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ivt thereom

misty crest
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what are the choices

last egret
misty crest
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so what do you think

last egret
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i think that it is continous

misty crest
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well yes it explicitly tells you that it is

last egret
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i dont know if it can be applied

misty crest
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"the function f(x) is continuous…"

misty crest
last egret
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i think it is something dealing with squeez thereom

misty crest
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nope

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nothing to do with squeeze theorem

last egret
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is it if a point exists?

misty crest
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consider a continuous function f and the interval (a,b), let f(a)=c and f(b)=d, then by IVT the function f takes on all values within (c,d)

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essentially if the function is continuous then it has to go through every value in between the two y values at the endpoints in the interval between the two endpoints

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there is no other way to go from c to d

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then to go through every value between c and d

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no matter the path you take

last egret
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i think i get it

misty crest
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since it’s continuous

last egret
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so since it is continous it as to go trough these points right?

misty crest
misty crest
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no matter the path you take it has to go through the value of I

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in this picture above

last egret
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yes

misty crest
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since f(a)<I<f(b)

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so continuity is the only condition to apply IVT

last egret
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so would the ivt be applied to all continosu limits?

misty crest
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continuous limits?

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what does that mean

last egret
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the function

misty crest
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continuous functions

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but it’s more so continuous on whichever interval is in question

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as in continuous on some interval

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it can be continuous outside of an integral

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but you can apply IVT on an interval for which the function is continuous

last egret
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so how do we solve this

misty crest
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we already did

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we verified the condition

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f is continuous on [-9,9]

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thus we can apply IVT on that interval

last egret
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there is mroe

misty crest
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which you did not show

last egret
misty crest
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i am not watching your screen

last egret
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this pops up when you say it can be applied

misty crest
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mhm so what is the interval

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k is a value of y

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and c is a value of x

last egret
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would it be (6,2)?

misty crest
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hmm i’m wondering if they want 6,2 or -3,6

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because you can get both from the graph

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they told you 6,2 are two points

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but from that we can get -3,6

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from -9,9

last egret
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how did you get -3 6

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did you subtrac?

misty crest
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oh they said on -5,1

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at the end of the question

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so yea (6,2)

misty crest
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f(-9)=-3

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f(9)=6

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but they only wanted it on the interval (-5,1)

last egret
misty crest
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read the last line of the question

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question sir

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what is this for

last egret
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-5 1?

misty crest
last egret
misty crest
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ok it’s just a homework

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you’re good

misty crest
last egret
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not a homework but a review for a unit test

misty crest
last egret
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no lol

misty crest
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just wanted to make sure

last egret
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how do we find the c

misty crest
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it’s the x interval

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c is some value of x in the interval

last egret
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where do i find the x interavak

misty crest
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it was given

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they want you to apply IVT on (-5,1)

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thus the interval is (-5,1)

last egret
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so -5,1)?

misty crest
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yes

last egret
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so this means no f(c)?

misty crest
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so what do you think for the last part

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remember what i said earlier

last egret
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not exist

misty crest
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why is that

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so in this scenario

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relating to what i said earlier

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a=-5

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b=1

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c=f(a)=6

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d=f(b)=2

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from IVT

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f takes on all values between 6 and 2 in the interval (-5,1)

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so what does this mean for our question

last egret
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oh so from 6,2

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so 3 is inbetween

misty crest
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indeed

last egret
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if it was 2,6 would it be the same?

misty crest
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same thing

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doesn’t matter if it goes from lower to higher or higher to lower

last egret
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i got it wrong

misty crest
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since it’s continuous it takes on all the values in between

last egret
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one more try left

misty crest
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it is correct

last egret
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should i submit it again?

misty crest
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maybe they want

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(2,6)

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instead of (6,2)

last egret
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yes it is 2,6

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you are a genius

misty crest
last egret
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should i do one more and show you the steeos?

misty crest
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the what

last egret
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steps*

misty crest
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steps?

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yea

last egret
misty crest
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you do this one on your own

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i’ll correct you if you mess up

last egret
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ok

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so i know this thing is not contionus

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because it didnt say it is continous

misty crest
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well

misty crest
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you don’t "know" it’s not continuous

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you just

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"don’t know" IF it’s continuous

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but yes since you don’t know if it’s continuous

last egret
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so it would be this?

misty crest
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then you can’t make the assumption and apply IVT

last egret
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wait it is continosu since it gave the ivt

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is this true?

misty crest
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they were just asking you what can you draw from IVT

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you can’t draw anything from it since you don’t know if it’s continuous

last egret
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so it would be not necessarily continous?

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ok this si would i put but i go ti twrong

misty crest
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what were the other options for there may not exist

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oh wait no

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you messed up the interval

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(-3,0)

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because it said value of c

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thus value of x

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which means x interval

last egret
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yes i got it wrong

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i am going to do another one

misty crest
last egret
last egret
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this is a new one

misty crest
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remember they gave you at the end, f(c)=k

last egret
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so it would be (4,-2)?

misty crest
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thus c is a value of x

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and k is a value of y

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so the interval corresponding to k should be a range

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or y interval

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and the opposite for c

misty crest
last egret
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ok let me do this again

misty crest
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c is an x value between what and what

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and k is a y value between what and what

last egret
misty crest
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good but make sure that the k interval goes from smallest to largest because last time when we did it the other way the marked it wrong

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the c interval is correct

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so instead of (-2,-5)

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it should be what

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because -2>-5

last egret
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so would it not exist?

misty crest
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yes excellent

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oh wait

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no there may not

last egret
misty crest
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my apologies

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may not

last egret
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how is it a there not be?

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may not be*

misty crest
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because i never said that -5 was the minimum

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hold on let me draw

last egret
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ok

misty crest
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it can go like this

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because all values between the two y values are still guaranteed

last egret
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the left side is arrow right?

misty crest
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what

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i just drew x-y plane with a function

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the two points

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are the endpoints of the interval

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but notice the IVT only guarantees values between the two functions

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there may still be y values above or below the y interval

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if it doesn’t specify that either of the endpoints are absolute minimums or maximums

last egret
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i see

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let me yty again

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im doing another one i got it wrtong

misty crest
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if it doesn’t explicitly say it’s continuous

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then you can’t apply IVT

last egret
misty crest
last egret
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im tring this one

misty crest
last egret
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so i know this is continous since it is stated

misty crest
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mhm

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thus IVT can or can not be applied

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what do you think

last egret
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it can be applied since it is continous

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the k value is 3 through 7

misty crest
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nope

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close

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maybe a typo

last egret
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oops 6

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the formula for k is f(a) = k right?

misty crest
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what is a

last egret
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2

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f(2) = k

misty crest
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no

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k is some arbitrary value of y in the interval

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similarly c is some arbitrary value of x

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in the given interval

last egret
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i see

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so it would be something lik ethis

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for k right?

misty crest
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k is between those

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two lines

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yes

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if those are the bounds of our interval

last egret
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yes

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i see i think im gettin git

misty crest
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so this is similar to the one before

last egret
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i got it wrong

misty crest
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is 3<2<7

misty crest
misty crest
last egret
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so this is a may be not?

misty crest
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mhm

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think of 2 as k

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when they say f(c)=2

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can that be k?

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if we said k is between 3 and 6

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right

last egret
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yes

misty crest
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so IVT only holds for

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k

misty crest
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because 2 is not in between 3 and 6

last egret
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so k coudlnt be 3 or 6 right?

misty crest
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we stated that 3<k<6

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well it could

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but

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they’re using open intervals

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since they already told you the function takes those two values on

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so to say it again would be redundant

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by using an inclusive interval

last egret
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"a value of cc in the interval left parenthesis, 2, comma, 7, right parenthesis(2,7) where f, of, c, equals, 2, .f(c)=2."

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is 2 inside the interval

misty crest
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2 is not in the interval (3,6)

last egret
misty crest
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don’t confuse the x and y intervals

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remember

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c is an x value

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which is the input

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when you say f(c)=whatever

last egret
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oh

misty crest
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that’s a y value

last egret
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it is using these

misty crest
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the y value at x=c

last egret
misty crest
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mhm

last egret
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wait so it woudlnt exist right?

misty crest
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not necessarily

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it could exist

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but isn’t guaranteed

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because it could just draw a straight line between the points

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and it would never go below to 2

last egret
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when can it be it cannot exist?

misty crest
last egret
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yes

misty crest
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only if they state either of the two endpoints are absolute minimums or absolute maximums on the interval and the value in question is below the min or above the max

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that would not be possible

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it’s contradictory

last egret
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ok lets do one

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i think i can get this right

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i got it correct

misty crest
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nice

last egret
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how did i get this wrong?

misty crest
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you said therefore there exists

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while also saying it can not be applied

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if it can not be applied then you can’t assert that there exists…

last egret
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so it may not exist

misty crest
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there may exist may not

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🤷🏼‍♂️

last egret
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thank you

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you are a legend man

misty crest
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thank you pingu

last egret
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can i griend regques tyou

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you are a legend

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i cannot express this enough

misty crest
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no need

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i hope you do well

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on your exam

last egret
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thank you

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how did uou learn this muhc calclus?

misty crest
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you’re welcome

misty crest
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youtube

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practice

last egret
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what do you think i should search for ivt

misty crest
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khan academy is always a great resource

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use the ap calculus courses on there

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free

last egret
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do you think chemistry tutor is good

misty crest
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they have practice exercises and videos

misty crest
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he’s sort of like khan academy

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i’ve watched him before

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not as of late but

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yea was good back in the day

last egret
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so khan academy is the main?

misty crest
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some of his videos i didn’t like

misty crest
last egret
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what are some books?

misty crest
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larsons book is great

last egret
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is it good for beginnrse?

misty crest
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mhm

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single variable calculus

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when you start doing derivatives and integrals i’d recommend chris mcmullens calculus exercises

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he has a workbook

last egret
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is it free online?

misty crest
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it may be

last egret
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i see

misty crest
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i bought it for cheap

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it’s a workbook so it’s probably like 15 dollars

last egret
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i am starting derriatives soon

misty crest
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it’s great though

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great exercises

last egret
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so do you think it is good to start?

misty crest
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clean and concise explanations

misty crest
last egret
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what are the main things for calculus i heard it is limits deravitives

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and some other thighs

misty crest
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i had that and some book by thompson

last egret
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have you haerd the book calculus made easy by thmpson?

misty crest
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hmm i’ll look it up

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nope

chrome isle
misty crest
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that’s not the one i read

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i first read calculus for they practical man

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but i wouldn’t recommend that one

chrome isle
last egret
misty crest
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some of the answers to the exercises were incorrect

misty crest
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i definitely recommend

last egret
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i see do you know any good youtube videos for ivt right now?

misty crest
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you’ll want more resources as it’s not a textbook with theorems and such

last egret
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i see

misty crest
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khan academy has on

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they post on youtube as well

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i’m sure professor leonard has one

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mit ocw is great

chrome isle
misty crest
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i didn’t use them for single variable calc but still

misty crest
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essence of calculus is essential

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nice video series

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great animations

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to give an intuitive approach

last egret
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i will look into these book

misty crest
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you can find them online

chrome isle
last egret
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i always have roblem the formulas

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like f(a) something similar to that

misty crest
last egret
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i just cannot apply it

chrome isle
misty crest
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bprp is more fun

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i guess

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but 3b1b is more educational

last egret
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bbrp

misty crest
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blackpenredpen

last egret
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i will look it up

chrome isle
misty crest
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spivak is advanced calculus

chrome isle
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And dont go for apostol too it's even harder than spivak bleakcat

chrome isle
misty crest
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you haven’t even done calc2?

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why are you reading spivak

chrome isle
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😭😭

chrome isle
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warm compass
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It seems as tho this is the wrong answer:

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warm compass
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where did I go wrong?

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and what would be a more efficient way to solve for x here?

lofty crescent
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start by multiplying both sides by (x+2)(x+3)
and we get x^2+2x=3
then factor into
x^2+2x-3=0
(x+3)(x-1)=0
x=-3
x=1

warm compass
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dang, so the crossing was incorrect?

lofty crescent
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not sure but you solve these problems by canceling out the denominators of both sides usually

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lemme see what happened

warm compass
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ok

lofty crescent
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oh yeah it is the cross multiplying

warm compass
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alright, I'll watch out for it

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balmy oracle
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hi

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glossy basalt
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hi

balmy oracle
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How does this not equal 52

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ABE + EBC = 180

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so 5r - 10 = 180

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190/5 = 38

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r=38

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38(2)-20 is 52

silk zenith
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what are m and r?

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just variables?

balmy oracle
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uh

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wheres m and r

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r is a variable

silk zenith
balmy oracle
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M is angle

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basically

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so the angle of EBC is 3r+10

silk zenith
balmy oracle
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so that means since BA and BC are opposite rays ABE and EBC add up to 180

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so use the variables that means 3r+10 + 2r-20 = 180

silk zenith
balmy oracle
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Okay and it says it's wrong

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After I plug it in

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For ABE which is congruent to EBF

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wait im so dumb

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38 x 2 is not 72

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🙄

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76-20 is 56

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I stg if this is the answer

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yep im done

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i just wasted 30 minutes for a dumb multiplication error

silk zenith
balmy oracle
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ik

silk zenith
balmy oracle
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its 56

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I literally waited for 30 mins

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Okay homework time is over

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Im done for now

silk zenith
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💀

balmy oracle
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your fine im just going to do my spanish hw now

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geometry can wait

silk zenith
amber umbra
balmy oracle
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no it has nothing to do with that

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I just wasted a lot of time

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for no reason

amber umbra
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Got it. If you need anything, feel free.

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  1. In kindergarten, Viktoria and Emil each have a glass of juice with exactly the same amount of juice in each glass. However, Viktoria is not entirely happy because Emil's juice contains twice as much sugar as hers. The glasses are not so full that they cannot pour a little from one into the other, and smart as she is, Viktoria convinces Emil to play the following game: She pours $\frac{1}{9}$ of her juice into Emil's glass, asks him to stir it well, and then pour the same amount of juice back into her glass so that they again have the same amount of juice.

The mixing procedure described above is repeated several times. Let $x_n$ and $y_n$ be the amount of sugar in the glasses of Viktoria and Emil, respectively, after the procedure has been performed $n$ times.
a) Show that

$$
\begin{aligned}
x_{n+1} & =0.9x_n + 0.1y_n \
y_{n+1} & =0.1x_n + 0.9y_n
\end{aligned}
$$

b) Let $M$ be the matrix such that $\binom{x_{n+1}}{y_{n+1}} = M\binom{x_n}{y_n}$. Find the eigenvalues and eigenvectors of $M$. \
c) Write $\binom{2}{4}$ as a linear combination of eigenvectors of $M$, and find $M^n\binom{2}{4}$. \
d) How many times must the mixing procedure be performed for the ratio between the sugar content in Viktoria's juice and Emil's juice to be at least $0.95$?

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Michael

dire hatch
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Need assistance on d)

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<@&286206848099549185>

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Apologize for a lot of text.

hot steeple
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i don't know which direction the ratio is meant to go in

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so idk if it is x_n = 0.95 y_n

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or the other way around

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Viktoria = x_n, Emil = y_n

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so x_n / y_n = 0.95

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but the idea is you want to find n such that x_n = 0.95 y_n

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or y_n = 0.95 x_n

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yeah

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but how do I do that...

hot steeple
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or more

dire hatch
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do I need to insert one of the previous equations?

hot steeple
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you start with some x_0 and y_0

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some sugar content values

dire hatch
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So I should just make some values up?

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they need to fulfil the condition that emil has twice viktorias

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Yep

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but other than that it's irrelevant how much exactly

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as you want the ratio

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and if you pick some value that is twice the intended value

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for example let x_0 and y_0 be the intended values

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then x_0 = 0.5 y_0

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and you choose twice those values

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since the condition needs to be met

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you can just divide that out

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that multiple

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anyway

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pick some numbers

dire hatch
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yeah

hot steeple
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like 2 and 4

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and apply the 'mixing matrix'

dire hatch
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Ahh

hot steeple
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until instead of x_0 = 0.5 y_0 you get x_0 >= 0.95 y_0

dire hatch
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and then I can use the result from c

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and you want to find n

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oh sorry

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it's x_n >= 0.95 y_n

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not _0

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np, I understood that you meant n

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The text above this problem says “determine whether the function is continuous at the given values of c”

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I honestly dont know how to start problem 2 all🥲

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See i bet thats really helpful but i still just dont understand for some reason

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Hello, how are you, could someone help me? Does anyone know how to solve this step by step?

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integration by parts

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I got this, sorry for the handwriting, sorry if it is not very understandable, I would like to know if what I did is right before evaluating the limits

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At the bottom left there is an x^2 but you can't see it, sorry again

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I proved this to be equal to x^n - y^n. Is there a way to translate it to the more traditional form which is on the second screenshot?

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that would be the first step

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then you would have to do another binomial expansion on (x-y)^(i-1) giving you a nested sum

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kind tiger
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im not sure i understand what youre fully trying to do

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the nice thing about finding these two different representations if that you can equate the coefficients individually

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giving you some perhaps interesting or otherwise useful results

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\begin{align*}
x^2 - y^2 &= \sum_{i=1}^n {n \choose i} (x-y)^i y^{n-i} \
&= (x-y) \sum_{i=1}^n {n \choose i} (x-y)^{i-1} y^{n-i} \
&= (x-y) \sum_{i=0}^{n-1} {n \choose i+1} (x-y)^i y^{n-i-1} \
&= (x-y) \sum_{i=0}^{n-1} {n \choose i+1} \sum_{j=0}^i {i \choose j} x^j (-y)^{i-j} y^{n-i-1} \
&= (x-y) \sum_{i=0}^{n-1} \sum_{j=0}^i {n \choose i+1} {i \choose j} (-1)^{i-j} x^j y^{n-j-1}
\end{align*}

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looking through

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kind tiger
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missed a -1 whoops !

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It will take a bit of time for me to understand

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lines 1 and 2 of 4 look good

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Line 3 of 4 looks good too

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where did the (-y) go?

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$(-y)^{i-j} y^{n-i-1} = (-1)^{i-j} y^{i-j} y^{n-i-1} = (-1)^{i-j} y^{n-j-1}$

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Okay

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So far looks good

kind tiger
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ok the next step is going to be to change the order of summation, have you seen anything like that before

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Nope

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Or probably I have but years ago

kind tiger
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this table shows which pairs of (i, j) are summed over

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do you see how this is working

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the other sum goes from 0 to n-1, these are the rows

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then the inside sum is j which goes from 0 to i

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so for instance the term where i = 0 and j = 1 is not included because when i=0 the inside sum is j=0 to i=0

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changing the order of summation is exactly what it sounds like, instead of doing i first we rewrite it we sum j first

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we do this so that we can group all the coefficients of e.g. x^2 y^(n-3) together

chrome nymph
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Seems relatively straightforward

kind tiger
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ok cool so we can look at this chart to see that the new summation will be [\sum_{j=0}^{n-1} \sum_{i=j}^{n-1}]

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kind tiger
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does that make sense ?

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You sure the second sum will go up to n-1?

kind tiger
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yep

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look at the chart

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summing i first is like going across the rows

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summing j first is like going down the columns

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and every column includes i=n-1

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Oh yeah, I was trying to go in the opposite direction but the result would be the same

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Continue please

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\begin{align*}
x^n - y^n &= (x-y) \sum_{i=0}^{n-1} \sum_{j=0}^i {n \choose i+1} {i \choose j} (-1)^{i-j} x^j y^{n-j-1} \
&= (x-y) \sum_{j=0}^{n-1} \sum_{i=j}^{n-1} {n \choose i+1} {i \choose j} (-1)^{i-j} x^j y^{n-j-1} \
&= (x-y) \sum_{j=0}^{n-1} x^j y^{n-j-1} \sum_{i=j}^{n-1} {n \choose i+1} {i \choose i-j} (-1)^{i-j} \
&= (x-y) \sum_{j=0}^{n-1} x^j y^{n-j-1} \sum_{i=0}^{n-j-1} {n \choose i+j+1} {i+j \choose i} (-1)^i
\end{align*}

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kind tiger
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but notice that the result we are trying to show is that
[x^n-y^n = (x-y) \sum_{j=0}^{n-1} x^j y^{n-j-1}]
so all we need to do from here to finish is show that
[\sum_{i=0}^{n-j-1} {n \choose i+j+1} {i+j \choose i} (-1)^i = 1 \quad \text{for } j=0, \dots, n-1]

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im not sure how you would otherwise prove that identity, probably can be done but i was never good at combi haha

chrome nymph
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Same, same

kind tiger
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likely the key in one (or a combination of multiple) of them

chrome nymph
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I just wonder why we can't get rid of -1

kind tiger
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wdym

chrome nymph
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We are supposed to have only pluses without minuses

kind tiger
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yeah we do

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the (-1)^i is in the inside sum not the ouside

chrome nymph
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Yeah

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But doesn't it mean there will be minuses

kind tiger
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not necessarily

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4 - 3 + 2 - 1 = 1

chrome nymph
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We are not working with specific numbers here

kind tiger
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no that was just an example

chrome nymph
kind tiger
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my point is the fact that we have an alternating sum as the coefficient does not necessarily mean the coefficients will be altnerating themselves

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look at this

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the inner sum is the coefficient each x^j y^(n-j-1) term

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like you say, we want them all to be 1

chrome nymph
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According to vardenmonde's identity

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Not that it gives much

kind tiger
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i dont think you have applied that identity correctly

chrome nymph
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I made k=i, r=2i + j + 1

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like this n+i+j C 2i+j+1

chrome nymph
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Oh

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Yeah

kind tiger
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the issue is vandermonde is about a SUM of binom coefs

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and since our sum is over i there should be no is left in the final expression

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since its the summing variable

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i dont think vandermondes can be applied to our sum

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Okay I don't have the mental strength to deal with it right now. Unless someone else is interested in it I'm going to close the topic

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What's the formal proof of Riemann series theorem

static ember
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elaborate

upper schooner
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The one about being able to rearrange conditionally convergent series to whatever you want?

chrome isle
# static ember elaborate

I seem to understand all of it
Now how can I prove that the partial sums of the given sequence have superior y and inferior x

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Sorry for not stating my question correctly wut

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Hello anyone wut wut

static ember
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I think it all comes down to pn and qn being null series, even though their series diverge. So the amount you overshoot y when adding up the pn and the amount you undershoot x when subtracting the qn has to converge to zero

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what I dont really get in this proof is the need for these sequences xn and yn, why not just take constant x and y

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it does oscillate

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thats why we take limsup and liminf

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but each time the oscillation reaches x or y, it hits these numbers closer and closer

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At infinity

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yeah we only want it to have a limit superior and a limit inferior, not necessarily a limit

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pn -> 0 for n -> inf

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because the original series converges

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so an is a null sequence

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thus pn and qn as subsequences too

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static ember
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you know what conditionally convergent means?

chrome isle
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static ember
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and for a series to converge, the sequence of summands has to be a null sequence

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yeah

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Ok so the rearrangement of the original series may or may not be converging depending on lim inf and sup

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I think I get it now thanks alot @static ember

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Can u send some photos or smthng else can't really open the link

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What's the name of the book?

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I've heard it's name so il suggest to go with it since I don't know how ur proffesor teaches
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try drawing a picture :3

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why doenst it work? at the end i get 0 instead of 14pi

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was the complexifycation incorrect?

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how

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to be precise, euler's formula states that e^(ix) = cos(x) + i * sin(x), which you understand to imply sin(x) = Im(e^(ix))

your issue comes from overextending this formula

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thanks

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(here's the typical exponential forms of trigonometric expressions)

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Been trying this problem for awhile now.

like other problems i've inserted x into the function i can post my results

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F(1) = 4.83
F(0.5) = 2.10
F(0.05) = 0.41

F(0.01) = 0.041
F(0.005) = 0.021
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to my understanding the numbers should be really close to the answer but they're all over the place

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I think you've done most of the work here. Looking at the values of f(x) can you guess the limit ?

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0?

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0.1?

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You are already below 0.1 at x = 0.0005

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So 0 would be a better guess

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oh true

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(and the actual limit)

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oh you're right!

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Would I just use these limits for 22c question I dont rlly know how to do the right limits when there isnt any lines on the right that go to the holes

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And also for 23 how would I describe the right/left limits

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ok for 23

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i assume they want right/left limits to converge on a point, preferably 0?

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Im not sure but probably

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So would I just say what the y is when x is 0 for the right and left sides @restive river

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you would say that the limit as x approaches 0 from the right is 0

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basically, i think?

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based on what 23 looks like

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oh nvm

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Ya that sounds right, but for 22 how would I do the right side for the open circle

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wait wait

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b says that the limits of the end behavior

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the limits dont converge on a point

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they are to describe the end behavior of postive and negative infinity

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thats what it is

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Im kinda confused

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read b.

pine patrol
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But thats just for determining the end behaviors

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Which is inf and -inf

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and for 23

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which has no discontinuities

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you can only do end behavior

pine patrol
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So it would be DNE

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ok thank you, what about the right side for 22

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On the -2 hole

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the limits for 23 arent DNE

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they have values they go to

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mainly

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So what would I put then

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-inf and pos inf

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right side goes down forever (which is an unlimited number in negatives)

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left side does the opposite

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i hope you got the hint

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Ya I think I understand 23

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What abt 22

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22 has a lot of discontinuities, therefore, a. will be having some answers for 22

pine patrol
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My teacher said there should be 4 limits

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Dont I just do the left and right sides of both holes

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Help plz

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hey

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22

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@open vale

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How do you do gaussian elimination on a 5x4 or 4x5 matrix what???

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same way you do it in general

smoky nimbus
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The same way you would for a square matrix

iron siren
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so the end result should be something like this??

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dots = numbers

smoky nimbus
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That, or you can have row of zeros possibly

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if i have a row of zeros post gaussian wouldnt that make it near impossible to solve for 5 variables

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not if it's all zeros

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if you have something like 0 0 0 0 0 | 1 then that means there's no solution

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isee

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ok ill throw myself at the problem and brb rq

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ok this is hard

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could I get some help starting the process?

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first, you want the entries in the first column, rows 2 through 4, to be 0

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so rather than go row by row look at the columns of 0s that need to occur?

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yea you want to clear one column at a time

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to get into upper triangular form

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like thius?

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WAIT

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cant then you do this??

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yea

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you're not quite done though

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same goes for R3 though...

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^

iron siren
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then you'd end up with 4 0s again

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all i know know is that x5 = 3

wicked turtle
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the last two rows are the same

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so subtract row 3 from row 4 to finish

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can i just

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combine them to make the matrix smaller?

wicked turtle
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you could, but the "standard" RREF should be the same size as the original

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the last row will just be all zeros in this case

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so it doesn't contribute anything to the solution

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can an RREF be a REF?

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yea, RREF is just a special case of REF

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i meant REF here actually

iron siren
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yep

iron siren
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but then how can i solve for each variable individually

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there's too many of them

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or od i have to keep going to make the 2nd row just 2 vairables

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well you'll have two "free" variables that can be anything

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namely x4 and x2

iron siren
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wait waht

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as you said, x5=3

iron siren
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yes

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then the 2nd row tells you:
x3 + x4 + 2x5 = 0

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plug in x5=3

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x3 + x4 = -6

iron siren
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6

wicked turtle
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so you can let x4 be anything

iron siren
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but then theres an infinitely wide range of what they can be

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yea there will be infinitely many solutions

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because you have fewer equations than unknowns

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like for example if i just gave you one equation with two unknowns, say:
x1 + x2 = 5

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there are infinitely many solutions to that, right?

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yes

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same idea here

iron siren
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so when it says solve the linear system.

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does that mean just simplify it as best as possible?

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yea in this case it means you'll express x1, x3 and x5 as functions of x2 and x4

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(x5 is just a constant, which is a trivial function)

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so what do i have to do after getting to the matrix i just did?

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repost)

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start at the bottom and go up

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x5 = 3

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then

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x3 + x4 + 2x5 = 0, so
x3 + x4 = -6

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thus:

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x3 = -x4 - 6

iron siren
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oh.

wicked turtle
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finally the top row

iron siren
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so im now just writing the "solution"

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using the variable names

wicked turtle
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x1 = -x2 - x3 -x4 - x5 + 1

iron siren
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due to there being infinently many solns

wicked turtle
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plug in your expressions for x3 and x5

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ok!

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i think i can try the next question on my own and see what i can do

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if there's more variables than there are eqns

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then its not a concrete answer

wicked turtle
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yea, there will either be infinitely many solutions or no solutions

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(when there are more variables than equations)

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tysm ❤️

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ill be back in case i need help

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:3

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Can anyone please tell me if this is correct i have no idea why both 32,000 net profit

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why is it mistake

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everything in the table is fixed costs

COGS is variables costs

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Oh the COGS... The cogs are what balances the total production costs

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ohhh so it is correct then?

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Cuz fixed cost manufacturing gets lowered but COGS increases so it cancels out i think

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Yes sir

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Is this correct

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Hello?

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okay, I am going insane

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heavy current
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is it true that $\coprod_{y \in Y} X$ is a discrete space?

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higher!

heavy current
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or am I wasting my time trying to prove something that is false?

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I'm really hoping it's true, otherwise my proof idea for part of this exercise is gonna fall flat on its face opencry

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like, to prove it is discrete, it suffices to prove that every singleton in the disjoint union is open

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so if ${(x,y)}$ is a singleton in the $y$th copy of $X$, then ${(x,y)} \cap X = \emptyset$ for every other copy of $X$ by the definition of the disjoint union

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higher!

heavy current
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and \emptyset is open in X always

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but if we intersect ${(x,y)}$ with its own copy of $X$, then we have problems

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higher!

heavy current
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the intersection is just ${(x,y)}$ itself, so now I need to show that this singleton is open in the $y$th copy of $X$

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I want to somehow use the fact that Y is discrete to do this, but I cannot figure out how for the life of me

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does anybody have an idea, or a suggestion?

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or you can tell me that the disjoint union space is actually not discrete and that I'm wasting my time KEK

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I just need a direction to go in

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dire forge
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Have you tried an example yet

heavy current
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then I can say that ${\text{Id}|}X: \coprod{y \in Y} \to X$ is continuous

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higher!