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Have you heard of the Lambert W function 
In this video, I showed how to use the Lambert W function to solve an exponential equation.
yes but is there another way to do it?
yes this is a way
is there another way?
bcz calculators cant compute the function
you can apply taylor series expansion for e^x
(at last step)
interesting
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how to do 13
ye
ur equations were written with the assumption that you’d start at x=-2
ur line doesn’t have to go from left to right
it can go right to left
ye idk how to flip it
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Whats up guys
I need someone to verify my solution sketch on:
USA TST 2018/2
It’s not rigorous, it’s just the sketch of the solution but here it is:
think about the numbers on a grid, i’m taking the average of the cell below and left to me.
Then thing of f(x-1,y) and f(x,y-1) like dots on the number line. F(x-1,y-1) reflected about f(x-1,y) and f(x,y-1) gives f(x-2,y) and f(x,y-2) respectively. If f(x-1,y-1) is not the midpoint of f(x-1,y) and f(x,y-1), then by pick the one it is further away from. Wlog is f(x-1,y). Then, f(x-1,y-1) the distance between f(x-1,y-1) and f(x-2,y) is greater than f(x-1,y) and f(x,y-1). If f(x-1,y-1) is the midpoint of f(x-1,y) and f(x,y-1), then reflecting blah blah gives same distance. So we can keep repeating this problem and find these pairs of diagonal numbers who’s distance are nondecreasing.
Now, we prove that if the distance is nonzero, then the distance cannot stay constant indefinitely. Just look at the fucking image i am lazy to type more. Ok so now we’ve proven that there are no diagonal thingies that are different. So the entire diagonal is same. So the entire board is same. Therefore, f = c where c is a constant in [0,1]
Actually
It’s better conveyed on a picture
Let me draw it out
With equality iff the point in the middle is the midpoint
But then here we prove that it cannot be all midpoints, because someone will go out of bounds as well
So there cannot be a “diagonal pair like that” that has distance nonzero
Which is just another of saying “the entire thing is fucking constant”
Aka f = c where c is a constant [0,1]
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What does this sentence mean?
So if its 1,234 you dont call it one thousand and two hundred and thirty four
just callit one thousand two hundred thirty four
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Topic : numerical methods - fixed point iteration
I just can't understand how they take g(x) without considering the interval in which the root lies. They also didn't check for the condition if |g'(x)|<1.
yes ideally you should check for that
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Thats what I don't understand
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- If the equation x ^ 2 - 4x - (3k - 1)|x - 2| - 2k + 8 = 0, k \in R has exactly three distinct solutions, then k is equal to
Anyone gonna try this ?
Please solve and explain all the steps 🙏
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first we need to solve the equation, just ignore the k variable for now
how would we do that?
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Did you try it
yes
What’s your answer coming
have you tried it already?
the solution for k or for x
i don't really understand that either but i would do it a different way which is think is more intuitive
what i would do is just solve the equation and then take the discriminant which determines how many solutions the equation has
and because you're dealing with modulus
or absolute value
you have two equations
Yeah
for 1 equation discriminant has to be >0, for the other one it has to be =0
or the other way around ofc
One hint is that they said
One root is equal to 0
And other 2 roots are positive
Didn’t understand this stamens
Stantmenr
Statement ****
that's what i just said
you're familiar with discriminants right?
the discriminant is the part under the square root
so b²-4ac
Yeah
Bro I know everything about equations
This question is just not it
- I’m half asleeep so brain isn’t braining
Thank you for the help, If you find the solution please write it with explanation please 🙏 I’ll check when I wake up .
Thank you.
For your info, the answer to question is k=2
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How time is 31 s?
have you tried to do it
Yes i did. For the motorcycle the initial velocity is zero and the final velocity is 45 and acceleration is 3
the final velocity is not 45
if it were it would never catch up at all
how could you describe how far the car has travelled after passing the trooper?
It did not mention anything
Sorry idk
you know the speed of the car
Yeah do i need to fine distance in terms of t?
yup
Still it gives like t=(45/3) = 15
no, the motorcycle is not aiming for 45m/s i said that
If i use s = ut + 0.5at^2
Umm ok
you will need that equation, yeah, just not yet
if the car is travelling at 45m/s
and t is the seconds after it passes the trooper, how far does it travel in t seconds
45t?
I used this
45t= (0.t) + 3(t)^2
this is close
Then for the motor cycle it will be 45(t-1)?
you have the right ideas just in the wrong ways
lets go from this
its ut+0.5at^2 right, the general formula
here you forgot the 0.5
Oh sorry I forgot
and then need to apply the t-1 here on the right side, not the 45 though
and you should be good to go
Oh thankss
Okay i got it now thanks
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For the potentials in this question my answer was k/2 x^2 + c1 and -gx + c2. Do you think its neccesary to find these constants?
If you get back to me please @ me :) thank you
i want to learn meth
you want me to help you to how to get help?
I don't think the constants are necessary. They're usually implied zero at some reference frame
I'm thinking no, the question didn't indicate that
actually it looks more like a general question which always have its results containing such constants
hmmm, so in this question particularly shall i assume the constants are 0?
1+1+2=5
4=4
45=55
20 = 25
i thoght that i cooked but i actually burnt
what are u yapping about
Please go to #discussion if you want to troll about.
Yeah that's fine. For gravitational and spring energy, that's usually how it goes
hmmm okay, im just making sure there is no way to get a value or something for those constants
x3+y3+z3=k
ahh i see, thank you :)
Potential energy is always relative to some reference frame. For g, it's reference is the ground, and for springs, its reference is the rest position
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ohhh okay i shall keep that in mind
im gonna close now if thats okay
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you know abou moderation how to give people limit access
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What did u try?
This exercise is solved answering this
a triangle inside of another triangle
And the other?
a quadrilateral ?
What is the sum of angles on a quadrilateral?
is it 360
I think you can already solve this
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So what is 360 + 113 -360
113
i mean i guess
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Quick question:
Definition 0.3.19. Given a set 𝐴, a binary relation on 𝐴 is a subset R ⊂ 𝐴 × 𝐴, which are
those pairs where the relation is said to hold. Instead of (𝑎, 𝑏) ∈ R, we write 𝑎 R𝑏.
Take 𝐴 = {1, 2, 3}. Consider the relation ‘<’, does that mean '<' ⊂ 𝐴 × 𝐴 where '<' = {(1,2),(1,3),(2,3)}
yes
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pp
Ah yes, the most difficult problem of them all
Mind sending a screenshot of it instead?
sure
its an https but sure
what is happening
where did point D come from and E
whats this shape
this is all i understood from the question
huh?
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It is asking to find the volume between the two surfaces, but I dunno how to do it, probably with spherical or cylindrical coordinates. Can anyone help? (The answer of "c" is 7π/6 and the answer of "d" is π/2√2)
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Ok, c is correct actually, but I have no idea for "d"
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i have no idea how to solve this
hey guys
i have the amc 12 coming up
from now to then
is it possible to qualify for AIME
what?
i have done all of the sections on alcmus except for intermediate alg and precalc
i plan to finish intermediate calc by the end of the month
is it possible
and what are tips and tricks
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i think you'd need to find an unoccupied help channel
that's fine
alr thanks
i don't know how 3d vectors work
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Hello
What about the norm of the dot product of two unit vectors?
"norm of the dot product" 
well what if you had the unit vectors i and j
||v • v||
the dot product gives a scalar
dot product produces a scalar
Yes
As above ^
what you meant is probably absolute value?
I guess
I'm trying to solve this question
I know the answer is e)
But I want to know the result
(you should hopefully know what you can do with scalars in norms...)
Hmmm, u.v^2 is very sus notation, and not great 
How should I change it
It's find that $proj_{\vec{v}} \vec{u} = \frac{ \vec{u}\cdot \vec{v} }{ \norm{\vec{v}}^2 } \vec{v}$, and you can take the norm of that as is
@upper schooner
?
As in, this part isn't correct, so leave that for now
Oh?
the left side produces a scalar which is then multiplied by the vector v
What you can do, noticing that these are scalars, is try to work out the expression
[ \norm{proj_{\vec{v}} \vec{u} } = \norm{ \frac{ \vec{u}\cdot \vec{v} }{ \norm{\vec{v}}^2 } \vec{v}} ]
from there
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And there are many things I could say about the notation u.v^2 (that it's slightly ambiguous, that squaring individual vectors, or "multiplying" them, doesn't make sense...)
How about ||v||^2
That is fine as it is, you're squaring a scalar
As would something like (u.v)^2, that's squaring a scalar, but u.v^2 could imply multiple things...
So u||v||^2 is the answer?
Erm, no 
I don't understand
u • v is a scalar
||v||^2 is just one
So that means ||u • v • v||
But since it's a scalar
We don't need the abs
how are you taking a dot product with three vectors?
What does that emoji mean
You can't take the dot product of three vectors like that 
Oh wait
dot product is between two vectors
I see what you guys mean
producing a scalar
||(u • v )• v||
Like this you mean, right?
Anyways, a new question, do you know how to deal with $\norm{\alpha \vec{v}}$, where $\alpha$ is a scalar?
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So then this is answer, no?
How would you move it out?
allvll
And be careful, that could be taken to mean the dot product of three vectors, as per our previous complaint
Can't I distribute them
I thought dot products were associative
Or was that for matrices
Probably matrices you're thinking of 
Anyways, for here, it's more $\abs{a}\norm{\vec{v}}$ you want
@upper schooner
Okay
An absolute value gets introduced when you take the scalars out
Ohhh
Anyways, remember how I said that this is a scalar, right?
Almost that, $\frac{ \abs{ \vec{u} \cdot \vec{v} } }{ \norm{ \vec{v} }^2 } \norm{ \vec{v} }$
Urgh can't be bothered 
Doing Latex in Thursdays be like
@upper schooner
There we go 
Why not just consider the denom as 1?
Anyways, you can simplify that, I'm sure 
Or are we trying to do something else
Because what you did in Latex equals this, no?
Oh, they do tell you that it's a unit vector, don't they
mhm
Didn't notice that 
In which case, also notice that you have another norm{v} there too, and what v being a unit vector means again
In absolute value, |u.v|
no
That works out at most to be u, but needn't be equal to it
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anyone help
since AEB is simmilar to CFB, can you conclude AB=BC?
i mean thta's given?
also it's not similar, it's congruent
oh my lord nvm i'm a fucking dumbass
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guys is CE just 18
my brain is absolutely not braining
have you tried to make a diagram of this
if you want a starting point, then make a triangle ABC, and the point A is out of the circle, you are correct that CE is 18
yes
yes to the above
thanks bro
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excuse me
Hint:-Multiply and divide by 2
What about x when it's 5π/6
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Where does this n come from?
Basically they are expanding the formula for the variance
you're summing up n xbars
xbar + xbar + xbar + ... n times, which is equal to n times xbar
Okay but why is 2*x_bar not 2n x_bar then?
why would it be
yep
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i would assume this is a relatively common problem, but i cannot find anything about it online. If i have an N-pendulum, and i choose a point within its range, how would i go about solving the required angles for each joint for the tip of the pendulum to be at that point? Would this extend into 3D for say, a robot arm? If not, how could i solve this in 3D?
if this is a named problem, just getting a name/terms to research would be great
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Turns out for 2D what i was looking for is convex polygon equations and for 3D what i was looking for is Inverse Kinematics
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How to do this problem?
Could someone give me the method to answer it?
$\sum_{r=1}\infty\frac{4r^2 - 2}{4r^4 + 1}
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Do you have any idea in the first place?
zero idea
okay, I'll try
I would just use the method guess and hope for the best
You could notice the formula cosx^2 + sinx^2 = 1
Which would be satisfied if A is equal to B and C would be a 90 degree angle
Which would then give you your answer
So A
Please don’t give out the answer
My teacher solved it that way
but it seems really strange
it is also C but the problem is that, it doesn't make much sense to me(the whole method of solution)
Its just about comparing it to trig identities you do know in this case sin^2 + cos^2 = 1
you have the same way ig?
like what type?
thank you Sir too
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such a strange question
she?
it's a meme
ah okok
I am kinda socially inactive
yup np
Put random values of angles,then u can solve this in seconds
random values?
like
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Suppose the answer is right angle triangle either A or B else C equals 90 degree and sum of others =90
Me interested too
For equilateral put all angles 60 ,if the equation satisfy then ____
For isoscales put one 30, another 45 etc
Hope u understood
like more of a hit-n-trial method
yeah I got it
Yaaaaaa bro
thank you bro
that's also thijs said😂
everyone has same method
just different way to convey
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There are a lot of methods bro to solve a trigonometric equation
But this was small
either way thanks y'all
hmm, what if D was the right answer?
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If equation is not satisfied by those 3 options,then D
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So you checked that if a triangle is right, then it satisfies the equation
Ya
but what if the equation implied that the triangle is right, or has 45° angle
then A wouldnt be the right answer
and you wouldnt've known that
by your approach
Are u joking
If triangle is satisfied by any value like c=90,a=30&b=60
Then for all values,it will be right angle triangle
That's why we use a equation
I think you need to work on fundamentals
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Eh
You proved this
Lol help channel opened
if the triangle is right, then the equation holds
but the question is asking you to prove this:
if the equation holds, then the triangle is right
I'll propose another question
I mean to say that ,there is only one fundamental equation of parabola, y=4ac ,but it satisfies all parabola
Same logic works here
If in a triangle ABC, cos^2(A) + sin^2(A) = 1, then the triangle is
A) Right
B) Equilateral
C) Isosceles
D) None of these
now by your approach
we would check whether A works
and it actually does
but the statement
"If in a triangle ABC, cos^2(A) + sin^2(A) = 1, then the triangle is right" is false
By this we cannot tell type of triangle
correct
and how can you be sure that by this we can?
That's why this question is never asked on books
What if this equation was right only for triangles which either have 90° angle or 45°angle
Ohh bro, we can say here because 3 angles are given
uh
If in a triangle ABC, cos^2(A) + sin^2(A) + cos^2(B) + sin^2(B) + cos^2(C) + sin^2(C) = 3, then the triangle is
A) Right
B) Equilateral
C) Isosceles
D) None of these
Better?
Lol ,bro u are wrong ,cos(180)=(-1)
Hense 90 degree not possible
okay
This will not make a triangle
If in a triangle ABC for at least one angle called p, cos(8p) = 1, then the triangle is
A) Right
B) Equilateral
C) Isosceles
D) None of these
it's actually possible
What about this?
I mean meth's condition
it works for A, it doesnt work for B and C, but A is not the right answer
Not possible, tell this to him
you don't get my point. Your approach doesn't prove anything
His all equations are not possible to make a triangle
its more like an educated guess
which one?
point out a single one
Ya I know, but this approach proves that the fundamental is clear, we use it because it is fast
Both
it doesnt rule out D
D could be the right answer, and by your approach you wouldnt eliminate it
First one can make but u have to give an condition that A<90degree
As an example, take this
If in a triangle ABC for at least one angle called p, cos(8p) = 1, then the triangle is
A) Right
B) Equilateral
C) Isosceles
D) None of these
cos^2(A) + sin^2(A) = 1 this one?
This will not make a triangle,
Because we get p=0 here
this equation is true for any A.
,w cos^2(69) + sin^2(69)
what about p = pi/4?
checkmate?
lol
,w cos(pi/4 * 8)
,w cos(pi/2 * 8)
Lol
,w cos(3pi/4 * 8)
to sum up
that equation is true iff one of the angles is 45 or 90 or 135
so by your approach, you would find out that A works
but if I have a following triangle: 45 - 35 - 100, then the equation is working too
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probably
I only needed to point out that the approach used worked only bc of luck
(and also argue about it for a while)
Bro he was really testing my patience @cold bone
That's why I left
nah
i don't think so
Yaaaa
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😂
bro's a 🐐 after all
Ne need a he-goat😂
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hey guys how to do this
what are you being asked to do
make the 2nd term 0
Oohh
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oh not necessarily
you have to
then how else woud you find the min
differentiate f(x)
innit
you can do that of course
no
i dont know any other method
just notice that xtan^-1(x) >=0
and for t >=0, the function you're integrating is positive
so it's about minimizing xtan^-1(x)
THATS SO FUCKING SMART
you are so smart!
your method works fine too don't worry xd
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Simplify:
(3^4+3^5)/(3^6)
So far I've gotten it down to 4/9 but the answer key is saying that it's actually 3^3 and/or 27 simplified down? I'm confused how to get to that point, maybe I messed up somewhere?
it's 4/9
Right?? I feel like I'm going crazy
3^(4 + 5) / 3^6 is what's 27
Did I just read the equation incorrectly then?
I'm gonna post the screenshot for it rq
that's definitely 4/9 yes
3^4 + 3^5 < 3^5 + 3^5 + 3^5 = 3^6 => solution < 1
wrong exercise or bad notebook
maybe it was meant to be $\times$
CyclicTree
yeah I bet they did that
I think it's just a bad notebook, I triple checked to be sure that I wasn't looking at the wrong one 
Okay cool, I appreciate all of you
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Is this a place I can ask a calculus question?
Are you simply asking if your work is correct?
I'm getting this problem wrong and I can't figure out why
I followed the process from my example problem exactly
do you know what the answer ought to be?
I don't. The answer I got was dH/dt = 0.609 m/min
I took thorough notes from my tutorial example problem in Cengage Learning. Should I upload photos?
It's fine, let me read through your solution rq
awesome, thank you
I don't see a mistake. Can you show the original problem?
yes, I'll send a screenshot
just in case your mistake is transferring it from the source to your page
ohh thank you so much!!
yw
wow, sometimes another set of eyes does wonders
can I send you another one?
I have two more problems...one that I got wrong, another I'm unsure how proceed. These related rates problems are very challenging for me
You are doing really well on the related rates problems, if your approach to the one above is any indication
it's very clean and structured.
which is important in related rates.
I've worked really hard, but maybe you can find my error in this next one...
sure thing
you forgot the pi
that's why I thought you definitely seemed to have the ideas down
just getting tripped up on the algebra
I have one more that I'm having a hard time figuring out how to go about
and I need to go do errands 🙂
lol ok, sorry, if you need to go that's ok
volume of a triangle prism is area of triangle times depth
1/2(bh)*10
ohh I see
where the b is proportional to 4 and the height is proportional to 7
thank you so much
this is just geometry, not calculus
I should be good for a bit
so again, you seem to have related rates down pat
good, whew!
you're just rusty on the more basic concepts.
Yes, it's been awhile since pre-calc
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guys
close this one or the other one first, you have two channels open
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I'm confused about how to analyze this graph. The right answer is C can somebody explain that to me? Also, does F have a relative max at x = 2?
Ive been staring at this and honestly think this is a misprint.
Like, here’s an example of what the graph might look like for C to be the only false statement:
@dense thorn
well
wait
so i'm a bit confused on what u mean
is the right answer actually C?
as in (C) is the only false statement
can we conclude that based on the graph given?
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what graph??? there is no graph
no
that’s just x and y axes with some weird empty jump discontinuity thingy in the middle
are you supposed to draw your own graph?
isn't there a point at (2, 1) and (2, -1)
no
Like I said, I think that they misprinted and meant to have a graph that looked, for example, like this.
they would have to be filled-in circles for them to be points
i think you’re right
OHHHH
I misinterpreted what you originally meant
No worries 🙂
tysm
so
would i not be able to say there's a point at (2, 0.9999...)
Generally an un-filled circle in a graph refers to a point 94 jump discontinuity.
correct, you can not say that
Like this for example
The point is defined at (1,1.5ish), but not at (1,0.5ish)
That’s a depiction of a jump discontinuity
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is this correct
Yeah
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aren't i supposed to multiply by $\frac{\sqrt[3]{81}}{\sqrt[3]{81}}$
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You could, but $\sqrt[3]{3}$ is easier
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I need help
I don’t understand 5
I see that there are 3 intervals
But I don’t really get what an inflection point is
they're points where the graph changes in concavity
And that means if it’s going up of down
wdym by "it"
then no
still no
concavity deals with which way the curve is facing
whether the slope is increasing/decreasing
,W graph x^2
,W graph -x^2
The first one is concave up and the second is concave down
yes
and then look at where the curve is changing concavity
no
there are only two,
Are both of them wrong
yes
you're not really after intervals
you want points
you seem to be circling when slope is positive which isn't what the question is asking
as implied earlier,
the whole graphs of y=x^2, y = -x^2
are concave up/down respectively
and individually don't have inflection points
so it seems you have some idea of concavity
try identify the location where it changes
Well I see that it starts changing after the function reaches 0
But that’s the interval
no
yes, those are the x-coord of the inflection points
Yes but none of those are an option either
They probably meant inside the radicand -> 3
Bad question ik
good
And 7 I picked A
is incorrect
Dang
the function is concave down there, but not full increasing
how are you getting D
yes
Oh
yes
And for 10
no
sort of, you should be circling the entire relevant part, not just part of it
Like
yeh
Yep, an input can only have one output, it's not a function
I really like your discord tag
sorry for interrupting
continue
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