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autumn geode
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ur applying the wrong properties

small urchin
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<@&268886789983436800>

tiny hearth
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i made a mistake. that doesnt make me an idiot

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sorry

small urchin
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Gpt users

tiny hearth
sick valley
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Can i solve this pls

tiny hearth
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yes please

sick valley
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Anyway

small urchin
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Maybe he Yes @sick valley

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I think it's with gpt chat

sick valley
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Can you stop writing

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I Need focus

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Ok so

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You need to apply this formula

small urchin
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What !

sick valley
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$\alpha^{\beta}=e^{\beta,\ln\left(\alpha\right)}$

small urchin
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Why do I have to use it?

woven radishBOT
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jandro

sick valley
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Use this

small urchin
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Why?

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Random ?

sick valley
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Let me explain 🤦‍♂️

small urchin
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Why

sick valley
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$\lim_{x\to{\infty}}{e^{\ln\left(\frac{1}{x}+1\right),x^{2}-x}}$

woven radishBOT
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jandro

sick valley
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So you can do this

small urchin
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How you do it ?

sick valley
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With the formula

small urchin
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Which?

sick valley
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However it seems I'm talking to myself

sick valley
modest dagger
small urchin
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But if you used it now

sick valley
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?

small urchin
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Yes

sick valley
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What

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You told me how I did it

small urchin
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@sick valley

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Him

sick valley
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What???

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Im not

small urchin
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Do you know that the formula has already been used?

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Why do I have to use it again?

sick valley
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Yes ?

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?????

modest dagger
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It doesn't come across to me that way.

small urchin
sick valley
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Wtf are you saying

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I applied the formula to write this

sick valley
small urchin
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And then you said: you definitely know how to do it?

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I told them how to continue

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Y

sick valley
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????

small urchin
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And you said that we continue with the formula again 🤦

sick valley
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What are you talking about

modest dagger
# woven radish **jandro**

This is a common strategy to apply. You can often rewrite limits in this form, apply continuity of e^x and work out the resulting limit in the exponent instead.

small urchin
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I'll say later

sick valley
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Correct .

small urchin
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After this thing....

sick valley
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??????

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What

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Can i continue?

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Pls

small urchin
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And even before you tell me that you wrote the track wrong....very strange (twice)

small urchin
sick valley
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I am working ...

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Be grateful that I'm helping you

small urchin
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Ok

sick valley
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😔

small urchin
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How do we continue from that point

sick valley
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We can use the power series expansion

small urchin
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How

sick valley
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$x=\infty$

woven radishBOT
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jandro

modest dagger
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Where did the -x come from?

small urchin
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Ok

sick valley
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$\ln\left(\frac{1}{x}+1\right)=\dfrac{1}{x}-\dfrac{1}{2,x^{2}}+o\left(\dfrac{1}{x^{3}}\right)$

woven radishBOT
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jandro

sick valley
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Its clear ?

small urchin
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Why did you stop here?

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Why don't you reply right away?

sick valley
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To have this

small urchin
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Ah OK

sick valley
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$\lim_{x\to{\infty}}{e^{\left(\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{2,x^{2}}\right),x^{2}-x}}$

woven radishBOT
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jandro

sick valley
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👍

small urchin
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So what?

sick valley
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$\lim_{x\to{\infty}}{\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{e}}}$

woven radishBOT
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jandro

small urchin
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Why did you stop there

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With developments

modest dagger
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Let them finish

sick valley
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Its Taylor

small urchin
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OK Bye

sick valley
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$\dfrac{\left(\dfrac{1}{x}+1\right)^{x^{2}}}{e^{x}}=\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{e}}+\dfrac{1}{3,\sqrt{e},x}-\dfrac{7}{36,\sqrt{e},x^{2}}+\dfrac{199}{1620,\sqrt{e},x^{3}}-\dfrac{3193}{38880,\sqrt{e},x^{4}}+\dfrac{46801}{816480,\sqrt{e},x^{5}}-\dfrac{6084467}{146966400,\sqrt{e},x^{6}}+o\left(\dfrac{1}{x^{7}}\right)$

woven radishBOT
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jandro

small urchin
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Overt gpt chat after this message

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I knew it

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.close

sick valley
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I got this from wolfram

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sick valley
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?

autumn geode
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this gives a much cleaner explanation

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modest dagger
# small urchin I knew it

Just because you don't understand somebodies solution doesn't make it chatgpt. It doesn't help anybody for you to constantly insert questions in the middle of somebodies solution solely because you don't understand it before they finished their explanation to you.

modest dagger
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The messages in this chat or others?

small urchin
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The others too

modest dagger
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I'm talking about this chat right now.

small urchin
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Okay

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Can't you tell he uses chatgpt?

modest dagger
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One sec

small urchin
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You ask why and there is no answer

vapid nest
tiny hearth
small urchin
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It is said because it is done this way

tiny hearth
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do you know how long it takes to type latex?

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you dont give him time to explain his reasoning

vapid nest
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Ramsey ur not being thankful here

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Remember these are volunteers

tiny hearth
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and when he does you dont try to understand you just say i havent learned it or whatever

small urchin
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When you see his messages you will understand

small urchin
vapid nest
small urchin
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He wrote it in a very short time then I don't know

tiny hearth
small urchin
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Copied from where?

tiny hearth
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wolfram alpha i guess idk

modest dagger
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Nothing they posted seems obviously chatgpt from what I can tell.

small urchin
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I don't think that's the case

autumn geode
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it looked copied indeed i seen him send it instantly after his prev message

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it would b impossible to type at the speed he did

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esp in latex

autumn geode
tiny hearth
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he copied a series expansion from a calculator? what's wrong with that?

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his other attempts at explanations were authentic

modest dagger
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I am not really interested in putting typing speeds under the microscope here.

heady plinth
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Get a life all if you

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Damn

autumn geode
modest dagger
autumn geode
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true this is a useless debate at the end of the day

modest dagger
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spring oak
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spring oak
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How to find left hand limit?

bright phoenix
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At what point

spring oak
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Any point

night shuttle
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plug in calculator

bright phoenix
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The left hand limit will not be the same at everypoint

spring oak
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How you feel?

bright phoenix
spring oak
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I meant how you felt that it will not be same at every point

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sterile ivy
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Is this equation invertible?

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sterile ivy
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$Y(T) = \frac{\mathrm{e}^{-3BT} \left(\mathrm{e}^{6BT} + 9\mathrm{e}^{4BT} - 9\mathrm{e}^{2BT} - 1\right)}{24B}$

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sterile ivy
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B is a constant

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Wolfram Alpha gave me this: but I don't know how to find these roots (where I replaced x with T and B with a)

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does the first one just mean the first root of

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$x^6 + 9 x^4 + 24 a^3 x - 9 x^2 - 1$

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sterile ivy
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?

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what does '24 # 1^3 a x' mean? Why is there an x there?

polar chasm
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It's quite probable that it has no nice roots

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polynomials of degree 5 or greater can have solutions that aren't expressible in terms of standard functions

sterile ivy
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?

polar chasm
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thats the only thing that im confused about

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ill try to write my own interpretation to the solution

sterile ivy
# polar chasm ill try to write my own interpretation to the solution

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polar chasm
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ohh you entered a instead of bt

sterile ivy
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I think it just gives you the inverse equation

sterile ivy
polar chasm
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I see

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then your interpretation is correct

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there are at most 6 distinct solutions

sterile ivy
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it makes no sense

polar chasm
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which are logarithms of roots of the equation you gave above

sterile ivy
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why there is an x there

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something must have gone wrong

polar chasm
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the solutions are logarithms of roots of the equation you gave

sterile ivy
polar chasm
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meaning logarithms of solutions to

x^6 + 9x^4 + 24ax^3 - 9x^2 - 1

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huh

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imma just solve it manually and see

sterile ivy
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do you see what I mean ?

sterile ivy
polar chasm
polar chasm
polar chasm
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is it divided by 24B or 24BT

sterile ivy
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/24B

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(e^(-3 * B * T) * (e^(6 * B * T) + 9 * e^(4 * B * T) - 9 * e^(2 * B * T) - 1)) / (24 * B)

polar chasm
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I see

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$0=e^{6BT}+9e^{4BT}-24By\left(t\right)e^{3BT}-9e^{2BT}-1$

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I got to this

woven radishBOT
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MethIsAlwaysRight

polar chasm
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B is a constant, so we dont need to worry about it

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and its basically a polynomial equation after substitution u := e^BT

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$0=u^{6}+9u^{4}-24By\left(t\right)u^{3}-u^{2}-1$

woven radishBOT
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MethIsAlwaysRight

polar chasm
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now this equation has at most 6 solutions

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solving for them, gives possible values of e^BT

sterile ivy
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interesting

polar chasm
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now taking log and dividing by B gives the value for T

polar chasm
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the polynomial ofc varies with different values of B

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and so do the solutions

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maybe we can do example

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e.g. y(t) = 1, B = 2

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that gives this polynomial:

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,w 0 = u^6 + 9u^4 - 48u^3 - u^2 - 1

woven radishBOT
sterile ivy
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hmm

polar chasm
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the solution u = 2.83788 gives solution for u, which is e^BT

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so e^BT = 2.83788

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and hence, T = ln(2.83788)/B = ln(2.83788)/2

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,w ln(2.83788)/2

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polar chasm
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or around 0.521529

sterile ivy
polar chasm
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hmm

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that's somewhat strange

sterile ivy
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so what would be the inverse equation? What is T(Y) ?

polar chasm
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ill just quickly try if my solution worked

sterile ivy
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curious to see what you come up with!

polar chasm
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,w (e^(-3 * 2 * 0.521529) * (e^(6 * 2 * 0.521529) + 9 * e^(4 * 2 * 0.521529) - 9 * e^(2 * 2 * 0.521529) - 1)) / (24 * 2)

woven radishBOT
polar chasm
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hmm it looks close enough to be just a rounding error

sterile ivy
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or is this somehow important in finding T(Y)?

polar chasm
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ill show you how I got the inverse function

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$y\left(x\right)=\frac{e^{-3Bx}\left(e^{6Bx}+9e^{4Bx}-9e^{2Bx}-1\right)}{24B}$

woven radishBOT
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MethIsAlwaysRight

polar chasm
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so basically we start with this

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now we can note that there is a nice substitution u = e^Bx, which will simplify it a lot

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$y\left(u\right)=\frac{u^{-3}\left(u^{6}+9u^{4}-9u^{2}-1\right)}{24B}$

woven radishBOT
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MethIsAlwaysRight

polar chasm
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that gives us this if im not mistaken

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Small rearrangement and simplfiications give

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$24By\left(u\right)=u^{3}+9u^{1}-9u^{-1}-1u^{-3}$

woven radishBOT
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MethIsAlwaysRight

sterile ivy
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looks good

woven radishBOT
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MethIsAlwaysRight

polar chasm
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ill replace y(u) with just y for now, as it will be the input to the inverse function

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$0=u^{3}+9u^{1}-9u^{-1}-1u^{-3}-24By$

woven radishBOT
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MethIsAlwaysRight

polar chasm
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which gives this

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now its almost a polynomial, except it has some negative powers there

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so we multiply both sides by u^3

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u^3

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$0=u^{6}+9u^{4}-24Byu^{3}-9u^{2}-1$

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like this

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now it's a nice polynomial

heavy laurel
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meth is right

woven radishBOT
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MethIsAlwaysRight

polar chasm
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-9u^2, sorry

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good

polar chasm
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then it becomes just completely normal polynomial

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so to test it, we can choose e.g. B = 2 and y = 1

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so we are solving for Y(T) = 1, when B = 2

sterile ivy
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wait so there is no general solution?

polar chasm
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the 6 solutions are logarithms of the 6 roots of the equation above, all divided by B

sterile ivy
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um so Y(T) = e^10^50 and B = 10^-35/3

polar chasm
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those are quite large values

sterile ivy
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does that make it harder?

polar chasm
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potentially, because i dont think wolfram can handle this

sterile ivy
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it's the 4-volume of an expanding universe under certain assumptions and the cosmological constant devided by 3 (as expressed in s^-2)

polar chasm
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oo interesting

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that can be quite a big number

sterile ivy
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I am doing an physical calculation since I am curious about something

polar chasm
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$0=u^{6}+9u^{4}-24\cdot10^{-\frac{35}{3}}\cdot e^{10^{50}}\cdot u^{3}-9u^{2}-1$

woven radishBOT
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MethIsAlwaysRight

sterile ivy
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but don't have sufficient math background for it...

polar chasm
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this is the equation to solve

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i dont think wolfram can handle that

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but maybe some softwares designed for working with large numbers could do the job

sterile ivy
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hmmm do you know any?

polar chasm
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not really

sterile ivy
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hmmm

polar chasm
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ill try asking other helpers

sterile ivy
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<@&286206848099549185> anyone here know how to solve this equation (or solve it approximately):

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$0=u^{6}+9u^{4}-24\cdot10^{-\frac{35}{3}}\cdot e^{10^{50}}\cdot u^{3}-9u^{2}-1$

woven radishBOT
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sterile ivy
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one solution is suffficient

sterile ivy
polar chasm
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Got one idea

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the u^2 term and -1 term appear insignificant

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and if they got erased, it would be just depressed cubic

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which is solvable

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and it should give approximate solution

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,w solve u^3 + 9u - 24*10^(-35/3)*e^10^50

woven radishBOT
polar chasm
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what

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thats obviously nonsense

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it does have real solution

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hmm actually

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if i erased the 9u term

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which is probably insignificant as well

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it would be just cube root of 10^-(35/3) * e^10^50

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which is around $e^{3\cdot10^{49}}$

woven radishBOT
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MethIsAlwaysRight

polar chasm
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that gives u

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now u = e^BT

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so e^(3*10^49) = BT

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which means

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T = 3*10^49 / 10^-35/3

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,w 3*10^49 / 10^(-35/3)

woven radishBOT
polar chasm
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uh so

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10^61

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should be the approximate order of T

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I believe

devout snowBOT
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@sterile ivy Has your question been resolved?

sterile ivy
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I didn't see

polar chasm
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np

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so basically the idea was removing the terms that dont have that much influence

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that is: -9u^2, -1, 9u^4

sterile ivy
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I am sorry, I am not completely following what you are doing

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could you explain?

polar chasm
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alr

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so the equation is 0 = u^6 + 9u^4 - 24*10^(-35/3) * e^10^50 * u^3 - 9u^2 - 1

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now we can notice that if we remove the -1 from the end, the solution wouldnt change drastically

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same with -9u^2

sterile ivy
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yes we are looking for a very large u anyway

polar chasm
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correct

sterile ivy
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why?

polar chasm
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because u^6 will be much much much larger than -9u^2

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it will have much more influence

sterile ivy
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hmmm

polar chasm
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Yk what

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lets assume we dont remove it for now

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and lets just work with this

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0 = u^6 + 9u^4 - 24 * 10^(-35/3) * e^10^50 * u^3 - 9u^2

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divide everything by u^2

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0 = u^4 + 9u^2 - 24 * 10^(-35/3) * e^10^50 * u - 9

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and suddenly, the 9 becomes just a constant

sterile ivy
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I am convinced

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so

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0 = u^4 + 9u^2 - 24 * 10^(-35/3) * e^10^50 * u - 9

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how do we go from there?

sterile ivy
sterile ivy
polar chasm
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anyway

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0 = u^4 + 9u^2 - 24 * 10^(-35/3) * e^10^50 * u

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this is when we erase -9

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because its just constant, and it shouldnt be too significant

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divide everything by u

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and get
0 = u^3 + 9u - 24 * 10^(-35/3) * e^10^50

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now this is already not so bad

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it's a cubic equation

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This is a solution of u^3 + pu + q = 0

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I think

sterile ivy
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ahhh

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hmmm

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alright

sterile ivy
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alright

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let me think if I can understand this

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I will message you if not

polar chasm
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so we can further do one more and last reduction

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0 = u^3 - 24 * 10^(-35/3) * e^10^50

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and that's completely removing the term +9u, because its quite small in comparision to the other one

polar chasm
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I think that it shouldnt differ by more than 0.1% from the real solution

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cube root of 24 * 10^(-35/3) * e^10^50 = (24)^(1/3) * 10^(-35/9) * e^((10^50)/3)

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now that in turn equals 0.00037254738 * e^((10^50)/3)

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e^((10^50)/3 - 7.89514633)

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so u = e^((10^50)/3 - 7.89514633)

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and u = e^BT

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so e^BT = e^((10^50)/3 - 7.89514633)

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or BT = (10^50)/3 - 7.89514633

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so T = ((10^50)/3 - 7.89514633)/B = ((10^50)/3 - 7.89514633)/10^(-35/3)

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= (10^50)/(3*10^(-35/3)) - 7.89514633) / 10^(-35/3)

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the 2nd term is kinda insignificant, so ill just remove it ig

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(10^50) / (3*2.1544347e-12)

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1.5471963e+61

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or approximately 1.5*10^61

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damn my guess wasnt that bad when I look at it retrospectively

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undone bone
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i'm tryna work out how set notations of quadratics inequalities work

undone bone
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but i can't find a video on yt

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for example this

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what is the n shape thing

acoustic helm
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set intersection. The elements of the resulting set are the elements found in BOTH sets

undone bone
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can u like kinda simplify that

acoustic helm
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i'll give an example.
{2, 3, 4, 5} n {3, 4, 7, 9} = {3, 4}

undone bone
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so what are the k:k for

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is that just whats used to like denote it?

acoustic helm
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it reads as: "element k such that k is greater than -6root3"

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should really be k in R

undone bone
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yeah i saw that in a video

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just for linear inequalities

acoustic helm
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but it means the set would be all real numbers greater than -6root3

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so what would the other set be?

undone bone
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k is less then 6 root3

acoustic helm
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exactly, so what numbers are in both sets?

undone bone
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anything between those 2

acoustic helm
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yes, that's all the intersection is

undone bone
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oh ok thank you

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restive river
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um

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restive river
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is anyone familiar with a d r t table

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distance rate and time table

inner viper
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I have a question, Is it possible to discover equality between numbers with powers greater than 1? I need discover a equality in 3 and 5 with power than 1, I need to discover equality between them without doing my hand with.
A simple example, "2^4=4^2".
Anyone can help me pls?

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Is there a formula for this?

restive river
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uh

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can't you just make the bases equal to each other

inner viper
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well thinked

restive river
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even tho it wouldn't be equal

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can you even make this equal?

inner viper
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but can I convert both sides after finding an equality?

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i need find an equality without change 3 and 5

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I need this to prove my thinking on a question

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I need to find an equality between 3 and 5 with a power greater than 1, in which the sum of the powers of the two numbers is equal to 59

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What is the meaning of equal roots

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two equal roots means the quadratic only has one solution

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for example, x^2 + 2x + 1 = 0 has one solution (two equal roots), because it becomes (x+1)^2 = 0 --> x + 1 = 0 --> x = -1

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so how do i solve it then?

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have you heard of the discriminant?

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b^2 - 4ac?

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no

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it's a super useful thing to do with quadratics

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if you have a quadratic of the form ax^2 + bx + c = 0, then we say the discriminant of the quadratic is b^2 - 4ac

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that number, b^2 - 4ac, is what decides the number of roots of your quadratic

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when b^2 - 4ac > 0, you have two real solutions
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well you know that 4x^2 - 12x + c has two equal roots so its discriminant is 0

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b^2 - 4ac = (-12)^2 - 4(4)(c)

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= 0

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solve for c

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once you have c, it's a simple matter of solving the quadratic for part b

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is there no other way like without the discriminant

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cauz they did not teach us that

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so i am sure there might be another way

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okay, geometrically a parabola has two real solutions if it intersects the x axis twice

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so for an upward opening parabola

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like this one (you know it opens upwards since coefficient of x^2 is positive)

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if it intersects x axis twice then its vertex is below the x axis

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if the parabola has no solutions, it doesn't intersect the x axis anywhere so vertex has to be above the x axis

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if it only intersects the x axis once, that's only possible when the vertex is exactly on the x-axis

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that vertex is exactly the one root

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so you just need to find the x coordinate of the vertex of 4x^2 - 12x + c

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c) For m = 3 determine the solutions (xo, yo, Zo) of the system of equations, so that x_{0} + y_{0}*z_{0} = 4 and Xo, Yo, Zo are integers.

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i done some resarch i i should do something like

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man

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<@&286206848099549185> is when is arctanx>1

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Hello, a friend of mine had this question

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Solution to a similar problem

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if A = {3,5,8,9} and A\B = {3,8 } what do you know about B then?

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B should not contain 3 and 8

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Correct?

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yes.

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But it should contain 5 and 9

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I need help from here

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you now that B contains 5 and 9 and does not contain 3 and 8, what about 1,2,4,6,7?

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The distance betweeen bases on a base ball diamond is 90. ft. How far is it between third and first base?

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I want to know if it's equal to 180

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I can't take photos but i'll explain so I think the sides of the triangle are 90. (Both sides) and using the pythagorean theorom to find the hypotenuse(distance between third and first base) it equals 127.27

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I have no idea how to do this should I
find a single a or b?

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Q34

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You might be able to find a^2 in terms of a (and hence b from a+b = -3) if you substitute a into the quadratic catthink

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True/false: every vector space over R contains a subspace isomorphic to R^n for some n>=0

i found this math stackexchange result, but i was wondering about how to see this for the zero vector space over R?

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any linear transformation maps 0 to 0
so you'd just have the identity map from {0} to {0}

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how would you find x?

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its a quadratic

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you can solve for 3^x then should be straightforward from there

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hmmmm....

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how would you find 3^x ?

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bad way

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like azo said, its a quadratic in terms of 3^x

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Hello
Is it okay if I change the 4x-45 in

90-x=4x-45

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Aw ok

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Asking for this question.

I wrote down 45-4x because that’s the order in which they said it

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Next time how can I know to change the order?

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can you help??

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the issue is that "less than" is ambiguous phrasing

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Oh okay

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in this case its straightforward

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4x - 45

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x less than y is equivalent to x subtracted from y

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if they said "minus" instead of "less than", your original answer would be correct. it would be 45 - 4x

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could someone help me with this true/false? i tried to think of concrete examples (R^2 sending everything to origin, R^3 sending everything to x-axis) and it seems true but idk about general cases

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Do you know any formulas that link the dimension of the kernel and the dimension of the linear map's domain?

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wait i sent the wrong question OOPS

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It's all good, don't worry about it (also the hint I had wouldn't have been helpful, so there's that catGiggle)

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And it may be worth thinking about the "send the last few coordinates to zero" idea here too Foxy_Popcorn

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As in, let me give you one solution, x0, can you name me another one (in an abstract sense, if needed?)

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yeah

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Ker(T) = {v in V | T(v) = 0}

Linearity: for x,y in V, c in F,
T(x + cy) = T(x) + cT(y)

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T(x + v) = T(x) + T(v) = T(x)

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ooo

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so u can make another solution x0 + v for some v in the kernel

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Yep, and as the dimension of the kernel is nonzero, there are infinitely many nonzero choices for v

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Soooooo pikathink

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so theres infinitely many solutions if a given solution exists

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but a given solution might not exist?

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since dim domain > dim codomain by rank nullity... there is some v in V that is not mapped to

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right

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dim V > dim im

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Yep, you needn't have a solution existing (e.g. take V to be F^3, and T(x, y, z) = (x, 0, 0), then T(x, y, z) = (0, 1, 1) has no solution)

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(of course, for the purpose of the question, showing one solution forces infinitely many is sufficient to conclude it's a true statement, cause if the "no solutions" part isn't true, the "infinitely many" part is, so it's inconsequential to us whether "no solutions" is possible or not)

native heart
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what do you mean by that

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To show a general statement "A or B" is true, you only need at least one of those to be true

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So if you can show that whenever "A" isn't true, "B" is, you're happy, because you'd have "B" true if "A" weren't

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oooooooooo

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my brain is not braining right now LMAOOO

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yeah gotcha

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Awwww SCGhugkitty it's more of a side comment than anything, but always useful to know these things, makes life a bit easier happyCat

native heart
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yep :D

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like the R^2 case where T sends everything to the origin right

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in that case if we choose b = origin, "A"/no solutions would be fales and "B"/infinitely many solutions would be true and vice versa for b not 0

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Yep, even better example than the one I thought of too! happyCat

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i feel my brain expanding 🤯

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wait this might be a little out of scope but the thought just suddenly came

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what if instead

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V was a vector space over lets say Z/nZ

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which has finite # of elements

native heart
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like the idea was that you can get infinitely many elements from the kernel right

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lets just say V = (Z/2Z)^3 over F = Z/2Z, then we might not necessarily be able to get infinitely many elements in the kernel right...

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even though dim(Ker(T)) = 2 can still hold

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with your example, like T(x,y,z) = (x,0,0)

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Good question tbh catThink I would want to say it doesn't, the idea of before being that "hey, there's infinitely many choices for the coefficients of the basis vectors", which holds over any field with infinitely many elements (e.g. the rationals and above), whereas for finite fields there isn't

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thanks for all ur help i appreciate it sm 😭 🙏

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Hello! I wanted to ask about boundary curves and their orientation. for this problem, with the unit normal pointing outwards, why is C1 CCW and C2 CW?

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we must have C1 counterclockwise to ensure the right orientation of the normal vector, then C2 is just there to "cancel out" the rest of the surface

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hmm ok

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i get that C1 has to be CCW for the right orientation but i don't exactly understand what is meant by C2 "cancelling out" the rest of the surface

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in stokes' theorem there must be only 1 curve bounding the surface. so we can imagine the surface from C1 extending all the way upward, then C2 has part of the surface with opposite orientation, so that integrating both will cancel out the shared part

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Can someone please help answer this $\int (1-x)^4$ Is my answer correct? First, I used u-substitution. $u=1-x$ then $\int u^4$ using power rule $\frac{u^5}{5}$ substituting the original value $\frac{(1-x)^5}{5}+ C$

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i believe you're missing a factor of a negative sign

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You seem to have forgotten about the differentials

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you should always keep track of the dx and du and stuff

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you had $\int (1-x)^4 dx$
then if $u = 1-x$, $du = -dx$ so $dx = -du$

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then your integral would become $\int - u^4 du$

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Ye

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-ve sign

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chobu nomu

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-ve sign b4 x

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if $u = 1 - x$, then $\frac{du}{dx} = -1$

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you usually can't interpret derivatives as fractions like du divided by dx but with integration sometimes you can

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so i just multiplied the dx over

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Why isn't 0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0.... not equal to 0

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It is equal to 0

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But if ur asking for limit of that

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That's a different story

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why would this not equal 0?

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is there even a way to write this infinite sum in a way that gives you something other than 0?

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Fr

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Wait.

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What's the original question?

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"isnt" "not". Are you asking why all those do sum to 0?

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Yes I think

sturdy mirage
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Anything times 0 is 0.

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Ok ty

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Actually

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If you really wanted to prove it, you could use induction.

stray flame
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No

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Infinity isn't a thing you can multiply by

stray flame
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That's undefined

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Infinity isint really a number

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It's like a theory

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it's a theory, but his theoretical infinity still has a value, since it's not a real infinity.

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If he's looking for an "exact" infinity, it's not an actual infinity.

opal scroll
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This is not how infinity works

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hence, a fake infinity.

opal scroll
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What

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It doesn't have to work if it's not infinity.

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It makes sense if you think about it.

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No I can assure you it doesn't

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Not being open to the discussion just means you're being mean without listening.

opal scroll
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There is no discussion since you haven't said anything of substance

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And you have? All you've said is that I'm speaking nonsense.

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opal scroll
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"0 x infinite" is not a well-defined notion

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i didn't say it was.

opal scroll
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But in the right contexts you can absolutely speak rigorously about infinite objects

sturdy mirage
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I said a number times 0 is 0. Infinity is not a number.

opal scroll
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Define number

sturdy mirage
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Depends on our universe of discourse.

opal scroll
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This whole "infinity is not a number it's just a concept" thing is silly

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out of curiosity i know in axiomatic set theory we use nestings of the empty set to define numbers, is there a similar axiomatic buildup of infinity?

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This is getting off topic for a help channel. And I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "axiomatic buildup of infinity"

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Considering the guy hasn't responded in a long time, I'm assuming he's done with the conversation.

opal scroll
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An infinite set is a set with infinitely many elements

sturdy mirage
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But an infinite set can be countably infinite.

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Such as the set of natural numbers.

opal scroll
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Yes? That's not relevant to what I said

sturdy mirage
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But every natural number times 0 is 0.

safe jasper
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i guess i meant that in the same way one could define 0 = empty set, 1 = {empty set}, 2 = {empty set, 1}, ...

opal scroll
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You sure are saying facts

safe jasper
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is there a rigorous set theoretic buildup of infinity

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other than saying "it's the cardinality of an infinite set"

opal scroll
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I mean you could say there exists an injection from omega into it

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But that requires already having a notion of ordinals

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ah it seems like ZFC took infinity to be an axiom

opal scroll
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We should leave this help channel though. This is very off topic

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what did i do wrong

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i didnt distribute the negative sign to the positive 2

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only the 7

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Use base 2

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Ye they r right I think

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how do i solve this

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solve? theres nothing to solve

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do u mean simply?

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simplify

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simplify

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yes

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i tred to simplify but failed

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what have u tried

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i tried multiplying both the terms in the nubmerator and factor it

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did the same with the denomintor

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try to factor it first

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but there was nothing in common to coninue

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no factor it before multiplying

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oh

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tysm i got the answer

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the stuff that u have to expand before factoring are in the form of stuff+stuff. in this case we have it in the form of (stuff)(stuff). so u can just try to factorise it directly

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Suzzie’s mom is making homemade wafer cones that will be used for her princess castle birthday cake. Each cone will be 6 cm diameter wide and 10 cm tall. How big must she make each cone.

HINTS: Use surface area, but you will not have a base. You will also need to find the slant height first!

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3

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Around 10

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10.440306508911
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Ok

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Around

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It

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No inside

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So later al

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2 pi radius squared + 2 pi r height

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So just the height then

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Idk it's not including the radius

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faiyrose

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faiyrose

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Got it

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What it means: 10 modulo (10n − 1)
And how means x ≡ y mod(k)

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the ≡ is 'congurence'

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How do you prove a number is prime?

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yes..?

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See if it holds (i.e., whether there are any positive divisors of the integer besides 1 or itself)

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Or use wilson's theorem catthink

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Can you do it algebraically? i do alevel maths

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For example, is 29 prime?

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for sufficiently large numbers proving they’re prime is extremely difficult

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A fast general way to check whether an integer n > 1 is prime would be to see if n is divisible by prime numbers <= sqrt(n)

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Yes, that's one way to prove that a number is prime. You could just check all the numbers below 29 and see if 29 is divisible by them. But if you take a look at the divisors of any number:

168
2 * 84
3 * 56
4 * 42
6 * 28
7 * 24
8 * 21
12 * 14
14 * 12
21 * 8
...

you can see that the pairs start repeating after you pass sqrt(168). It cannot have two divisors that are both larger than sqrt(168), since the resulting number would be more than 168

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Hey. So I've normally been solving these questions using slope intercept form. (y = mx + c). This involves me finding the gradient and solving for c. This is wayyyyyyyyyy quicker than that. Are there any caveats to using the point slope formula?

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Help how do I solve this

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17B4AF ig? Or have you tried it already?

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Idk let me check

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lol

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i wonder if chatgpt could do this tbh

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it says that you have 300 seconds to do that

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yeah but u can do it again and again

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Hi, this is more of a wording problem lol. But are those two problems solved any different or are they asking for the same thing basically?

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I'm not sure if there's a difference when it says, passing thru a point and contain a point

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same thing

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Hi does this makes any sense ? I don't know how to continue. The question SIMPLIFY

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...well probably?

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Then what is correct

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Uh cos4x=cos(2x+2x)?

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cos(a+b)= cosacosb-sinasinb

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And then i guess i continue

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Just second