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spare crypt
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so like you're given 11 points of data

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but for midpoint rule you're forced to pick the center of a delta_x, so the best you can do is 5 rectangles spacings instead of the usual 10

celest sundial
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Oh ok, yeah since 5 data points are in the middle

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So 15/5?

spare crypt
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this sort of picture

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yea 15/5

celest sundial
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Ohh ok

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How do I know next time? To do 15/5? Is there something special about the 15 in the question that indicates this?

spare crypt
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it's just about the 11 data points they give you, so 10 intervals in general but with midpoint it's 5

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better picture

celest sundial
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Ah ok, thank you

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That makes sense

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I don’t get where they got the (2+2…+1)2 part

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strange arch
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or you can also use a position and a direction vector to describe the line

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and then you also use the vector from that position to the origin

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meaning you have a position vec & two direction vecs which form a plane

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I’m trying to find the coefficients for this power series by knowings its convergent sum.

I can find the radius of convergence easily, but for some reason the c values are wrong.

It seems like I correctly turned the fraction into a power series, I just don’t know why it’s wrong still.

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acoustic leaf
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your power series has an x^{n+1} term in it, whereas the original was based on x^{n}

edgy roost
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That’s because I distributed x into the power series making it x^{n+1}

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I turned the second factor into a power series after factoring out x

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silk bay
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am i in the right direction, kinda stuck

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i got something like that, but the solution in the textbook is completely different

hushed lance
silk bay
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sorry its supposed to be y^4 + 2y^2 + 1

hushed lance
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oh

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lol

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but uh

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why would you use two constants after integrating

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you can just use 1 since a constant-constant is just another constant

fossil locust
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,w y * y' = x(y^4 + 2y^2 + 1), y(4) = 1

hushed lance
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then you use the given condition of y=1, x=4 to solve for that constant

fossil locust
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Yeah you should just square root both sides so you have $y = \sqrt{-\frac{1}{x^2 + 2C_2 + C_1} - 1}$

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fossil locust
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The -1 doesn't disappear

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And also you can justify using the positive sign cause when x is positive, y must also be positive

silk bay
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okay

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uncut quarry
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hello

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neon folio
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uncut quarry
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I need help with this problem

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find the volume of the solid generated by revolving the region bounded by the lines y= x+2 , y= x. y=3x. around x=4

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im doing this by the cylindrical shell method

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do i need to construct 2 cylinders or just 1

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i think 1 and the hight will be the upper function minus the lower function

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but i need someone to solve this so i dont get confused

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uncut quarry
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anyone??

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sharp plume
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Personally I would split it up into two cylinders

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@uncut quarry - So you know I am trying to help you

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ah ok i see

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oblique torrent
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Hoping to get guidance here

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oblique torrent
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This is my work so far not sure what to do with x^3

stable storm
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so we can divide the x^3 with 2x

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since it’s in the denominator

oblique torrent
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making it x^2 and cancelling an x?

stable storm
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yep

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any ideas on what to do with the x^2 now?

oblique torrent
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Not overly I know I am trying to get U in there but theres no +1

stable storm
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so we can rearrange u=1+x^2

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so that x^2=u-1

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and now we can plug that in for x^2

oblique torrent
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how'd id do?

stable storm
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maybe put some parenthesis around u-1

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cuz it’s kinda looks like only the -1 is being multiplied by sqrt u

oblique torrent
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true true

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thank you thank you

stable storm
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yw!

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4 of the 5 times I've used this server I've had you help me so i appreciate that lol

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opaque garnet
graceful geyser
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so how would u find absolute max

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i tried 16 it was incorrect

distant birch
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maybe 18

opaque garnet
graceful geyser
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oh

opaque garnet
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which means infty

graceful geyser
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yeah i forgot 16 doesn't cover the whole areaa

opaque garnet
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or 18

graceful geyser
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yeah that was right

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to find concave downward intervals can f' be used right

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because f' is g''

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or how do u find

graceful geyser
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ok i got it thank you

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loud kayak
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could someone do e), f) and g)

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these are the answers

fossil rampart
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I agree with e

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f too

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g too

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@loud kayak

vocal tartan
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e) convert sin^2(x) to 1 - cos^2(x) and factor
f) multiply top and bottom by cos(x) and apply L'Hopital
g) apply L'Hopital

loud kayak
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teacher didnt allow me to use L'Hopital

fossil rampart
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Can you use equivalent ?

loud kayak
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whats that?

fossil rampart
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Like sin(x) ~ x when x tend to zero

loud kayak
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nope

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these are my teachers solutions

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for the others

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he didnt do those 3

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idk y

fossil rampart
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Or in other word that sin(x)/x tend to 1

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fossil rampart
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Okay so you can do g

vocal tartan
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hmm for f) you can multiply the top and bottom by 1 + cos(x)

fossil rampart
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For g

loud kayak
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i see

fossil rampart
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So what would you do ?

loud kayak
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i got it

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its the right answer

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i understand how to do e) as well

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what about h)??

vocal tartan
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Same idea as g, notice that the cos(x) doesn't actually affect anything since it goes to 1

loud kayak
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okok

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ty

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i understnad now

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thanks @vocal tartan @fossil rampart

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lucid mason
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I am sooo confused 😭 this is like one of those tricky questions where u have to go backwards

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the teacher said to do this i believe:

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BUT i dont know what to do afterwards...

dapper echo
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solve for a

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a=-4(tan 111.8)

lucid mason
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so would i do -4 (tan111.8) = a

dapper echo
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yes

lucid mason
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so 10 = a

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woah that simple???

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thats it???

dapper echo
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yep

lucid mason
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damnnn

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thank u so much

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can someone help[ with d and e i laready have done a b and c

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can someone help me finish finding the power series representation of f(x)=3/(3-x), centered about x=2? I used the formula to find the constant of each nth term but im unsure how to create the general term with what I think is a fibonacci sequence

stable storm
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notice how we can rewrite $\frac{3}{3-x}$ as $\frac{3}{1-(x-2)}$

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wide aurora
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okay

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i see how you can do that

stable storm
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do you remember what the power series representation of $\frac{1}{1-x}$ is?

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wide aurora
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not off the top of my head right now

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its x^n

stable storm
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yep

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so we can essentially just plug (x-2) into that series

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to get $\frac{1}{1-(x-2)}$

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stable storm
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and then we can multiply everything by 3 to get our power series

wide aurora
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and that would give you the power series representation?

stable storm
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yep

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for 3/3-x

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because we can manipulate our power series using substitution

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addition subtraction multiplication and division

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as well as differentiation and integration

wide aurora
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can i show you what i did in pms?

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easier if I just show you my work

stable storm
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you can post it here if thats fine

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,w power series representation for \frac{3}{3-x} centered at x=2

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wide aurora
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yeah I got 3 as the constant

stable storm
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@wide aurora so i dont believe the answer at the bottom there was correct

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since you had a n! at the bottom

wide aurora
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so the series representation wouldn't be like a taylor series?

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I worked out my answer to get that series expansion

stable storm
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well it would be

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its just that the n! should cancel out

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when you take the derivative for the constant

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so can you not use substitution and manipulation to the 1/1-x series?

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also from your work, it seems like you divided by n! twice

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since you evaluated the derivative, divided by n! and then when you plugged it into the taylor series formula

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you divided by n! again

wide aurora
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where did i divide by n! twice?

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and I supposed i could, i'm just not very good with this

stable storm
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so you evaluated the derivative at the point

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and then divided it by n!

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and used that as your constant

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but instead of just putting that constant in front of the term, you divided it by n! again

wide aurora
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i think i just left it out

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in the denominator for that part of my work

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stable storm
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and we evaluate this at x=2

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so we would just get -3

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then when we plug it back into the taylor series formula

wide aurora
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okay

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stable storm
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f'(2) would be -3

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so the second term there would be -3(x-2)

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stable storm
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and then we plug in 2

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we'll get 6

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see how it keeps dividing out to 3 or -3

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when we do 6/2!

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for the constant in front

wide aurora
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okay give me a minute to understand im monkey brain rn

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also i might need to go now, you can ask other helpers for help if you still have questions

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why is it wrong

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where did i go wrong about it

eternal tapir
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It's centered at 1/3

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I didn't verify the radius but assuming it's 1/12

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You need to take 1/3 +- 1/12

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And check endpoints

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1/3 + 1/12 and 1/3 - 1/12

craggy field
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OOOh it is 1/6 instead of 1/3. I wrote a wrong number in my steps

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do I need trigonometry to solve this integral?
$\int \frac{4t^3 - t^2 + 16t}{t^2 + 4}$

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Yes

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is $ (\sqrt{x})^3 = \sqrt{x^3} $ ?

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floral sail
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$(\sqrt{x})^3 = \sqrt{x^3}$

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floral sail
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they are the same?

strange arch
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ys exponent rule

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(a^b)^c = a^(bc) = (a^c)^b

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in R+

floral sail
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$(a^b)^c = a^{bc} = (a^c)^b$

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is it still the same if it was 2 instead of 3 and x was negative?

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floral sail
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aight

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wait

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it means that

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$x^{\frac{3}{2}} = x^{\frac{2}{3}}$?

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strange arch
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no wait

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what

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why 3/2 to 2/3

versed juniper
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whats R+

floral sail
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because

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oh ok then yeah

floral sail
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$\sqrt{x^3} = x^{\frac{3}{2}$

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strange arch
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in C the exponent rules are more well applied imo

strange arch
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But why would it equal ^2/3

floral sail
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because

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$(\sqrt{x})^3$

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strange arch
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= (x^1/2)^3

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= x^(1/2*3)

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rewrite sqrt as half power to make it clearer

strange arch
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= x^3/2

floral sail
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thanks lunatic and latte

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np

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winter torrent
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those being elements of Z and not N feels very strange

loud aspen
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indeed

winter torrent
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anyway try induction

loud aspen
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i have expressed that gcd(a,b) > 1 => ax+by > 1

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winter torrent
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sure

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wait with c=0 it's false

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right?

loud aspen
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yeah

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true

winter torrent
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i think Z was a typo

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either just show it's false or prove it for N

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alright, i will try this idea, thanks!

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bitter halo
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how do I find f'(0)?

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bitter halo
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but we should know first if the function is differentiable or not

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a function is differentiable iff its differentiable in all the points of their domain, shouldnt we know if the function is continuous as well

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?

heady tulip
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ok so first you need to show the limit as x approaches 0 of that thing is zero (but x is not 0)

bitter halo
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ok

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does that include both 0^- and 0^+

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how do I do that?

jaunty mantle
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well you just do it from definition

bitter halo
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if it isnt continuous it isnt differentiable

jaunty mantle
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$\lim_{x\to 0^+}f(x)$

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Frosst

jaunty mantle
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and then you do it for 0^-

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$f'(0)=\lim_{x\to 0} \frac{f(x)-f(0)}{x-0}$

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dam

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you know f(0)=0 from the second part of the piecewise function

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so you have to show the limit exists

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okay

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,, f'(0) = \lim_{x \to 0} \frac{f(x)}{x}

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milanesa de pollo

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mmm

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but f(x) is this

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with the x in denominator or without?

heady tulip
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with

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is f(x)/x

bitter halo
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okay

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how do I get rid of x^2 in denominator

heady tulip
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no idea

bitter halo
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currently I have this

$$
\lim_{x \to 0} \frac{ln(2x+1) + \cos(x^2) -2x -1}{x^2}
$$

woven radishBOT
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milanesa de pollo

bitter halo
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should I try lhopi or is there other way out?

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taylor or maclaurin expansion

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I will try

heady tulip
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idk but ln(2x+1) and -(2x+1) looks suspicious

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i mean, looks good para hacer algun truco o algo asi no se

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sabes q olvidalo

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no se intenta cualquier cosa xd

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wolframalpha lo hace asi sin usar l'hopital

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sorry I only understand English.. but if you expand ln(2x+1) you get 2x-(2x)^2/2! + (2x)^3/3!.. and so on 2x and -2x will cancel out each other and if you divide the rest by x^2 you will get -4/2 and other terms will have some positive power of x which you can put as 0

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similarly expand cos(x^2) as 1-(x^2)^2/2!.. and so on 1 and -1 will cancel out and divide the rest by x^2

open current
heady tulip
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I meant to say that's how wolframalpha evaluates the limit without using L'hopital

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but yea ur right, any method should give the same result

bitter halo
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oh yeah by taylor expansion of ln(2x +1) it seems way nicer

bitter halo
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I dont get it am kinda confused

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what a mess my handwriting sorry

bitter halo
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heady tulip
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es xq hablo español

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si

bitter halo
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nice

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so f'(0) = -2?

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si

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so we can simplify that to $\cot(\theta) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}$

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Dork9399

rustic jetty
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or $\tan(\theta) = \sqrt{3}$

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Dork9399

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do you know any angles for which $\tan(\theta) = \sqrt{3}$?

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Dork9399

late wyvern
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no I don't

rustic jetty
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what is $\tan(\frac{\pi}{6})$

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Dork9399

late wyvern
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sqrt3/3?

rustic jetty
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what is $\tan(\frac{\pi}{3})$

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Dork9399

late wyvern
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just root 3

rustic jetty
late wyvern
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sqrt3/3 and sqrt3

rustic jetty
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so we know that $\tan(\frac{\pi}{3}) = \sqrt{3}$

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Dork9399

rustic jetty
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so we know that $\cot(\frac{\pi}{3}) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}$

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Dork9399

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thats about right I guess

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so thats one answer

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so is it pi/3,pi/6?

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How taking alpha = i did the author conclude that x and y are orthogonal?

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This is problem 7

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It would be nice to have the question itself, but to me it looks like a typo? Like a = 1+i instead of something

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I can send now 2 secs

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wispy eagle
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How did an e appear

vivid hill
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i meant to erase

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that’s why i’m asking

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idk how to do it

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uhm

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i don’t have my notebook can u just tell me what it transforms to

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then u can check

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is this one right ,

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?

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have you subbed them back in and tried to check yourself?

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bro plz just give me the answer

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same here

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hey bro

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just give her the answer alright

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We are not here to do your homework for you, but we are here to help you learn how to do your homework #rules

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i know

sweet elk
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Did you factor correctly?

vivid hill
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let me know what i did wrong

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what should i do instead

sweet elk
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How u get x-2 x+1

wispy eagle
vivid hill
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that’s not helping bc it doesn’t work even if i sub back in

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log rules i said idk

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i tried

sweet elk
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That expands to x^2 -x -2

vivid hill
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oh

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oh

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i

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did

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wait

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bc i favored

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factored

sweet elk
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You factored out a -1?

vivid hill
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no

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the 2x - x^2 + 6 - 3x = 4

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simplified to 0= -x^2 -x +2

sweet elk
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Yea

vivid hill
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then i favored and got (x-2)(x+1)

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FACTORD+

sweet elk
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But if you expand it

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It doesn’t match

vivid hill
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yes it does

sweet elk
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No it was -x^2

vivid hill
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oh

sweet elk
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If you expand u have x^2

vivid hill
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oh wait

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let me retry

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-(x+2)(x-1)

sweet elk
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-1(x^2+x-2)?

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Yea

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ok then

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i get

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x= -2, x=1

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all i know is that it cant be B or D because it would make sense for those to be the bounds of the integral

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so its either A or C but idk how to show the work

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Idek what the question is asking lol

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am i stupid or smth how are you supposed to integrate the equation of circle

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id integrate the semicircle and multiply by 2

eager fox
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They want volume

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Not area

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yeah same idea

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oh nevermind it isnt

modern hatch
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dam mocha so studious helping everytime

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with the cross sections of volume being

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equilateral triangles

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Can u show me a picture?

modern hatch
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of?

eager fox
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Of the figure

modern hatch
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theres no specific figure

eager fox
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I dont understand what equilateral triangle

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thats the cross section, or the shape thats being used to calculate volume

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Like this?

modern hatch
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assuming those 3 lines represent xyz axis

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then yes

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i got C

modern hatch
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uh avtually nvm

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yeah

modern hatch
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i got C too

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why did u change ur mind

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how do i get A

versed juniper
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integrating the top half of the circle is half the thingy

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but since its area of crosssedtion you need to multiply by 4 to make up for the halved side

modern hatch
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half of the thingy

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😭

versed juniper
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thj gu

versed juniper
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u know how doubling the side length of a square quadruples the area

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same idra

modern hatch
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i dont know how

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ok wdym to make up for the halved side

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draw it out

modern hatch
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how is it halved

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cuz ur integrating half the circle only

modern hatch
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how do u know

versed juniper
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sqrt

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only positive

modern hatch
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so wouldnt you

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multiply by 2

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not 4

versed juniper
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no because the area is quadruped when side length is doubled

modern hatch
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what is the side length]

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cross section area

modern hatch
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whats a cross section area

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modern hatch
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i was in a state competition during the day we covered cross sections

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😭

modern hatch
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math at 1am

modern hatch
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tthe latest it could be 4 u is 11

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if ur in the us at least

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but anyways

modern hatch
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reduce to 9-x^2

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idk

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idk anymore

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this unit test is my last chance to get an A

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did i do this right

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can someone check my work pls

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,rccw

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restive river
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convert to polar?

verbal pagoda
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yes

restive river
verbal pagoda
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what abt 3/4

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something went wrong in 4

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r*r = r is what u said p mucj

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?

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,rccw

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restive river
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u don't need to solve for r or whatever

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just keeping it in the form [
4r^2\6\cos\theta\6\sin\theta = 7
]
Is ok

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we don’t need to solve for r?

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no

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i mean like they didnt solve for y or x either in their equations

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how would u change polar to cartesian equations

restive river
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reverse the process u just did

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rcos(theta) = x
rsin(theta) = y

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for the first one [
r =12\6\sec\theta
]
try to get a $r\6\cos\theta$

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verbal pagoda
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divide by r?

restive river
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no

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i mean you can

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but multiply both sides by cos(theta) seems wiser

verbal pagoda
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so you’d get x = 12?

restive river
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yuh

verbal pagoda
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how would u do r = 7sintheta

restive river
verbal pagoda
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then what do you do with the r^2?

restive river
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verbal pagoda
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i’m confused

restive river
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like

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its just Pythagorean theorem i guess?

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uh

verbal pagoda
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so

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x^2 + y^2 = 7y ?

restive river
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verbal pagoda
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can you help on r^2sin(2theta) = 16

restive river
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yeee

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so like

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sin(2theta) has a trig identity

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do yk it

verbal pagoda
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2sin x cos x ?

restive river
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yuh

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so

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,, r^2\6\sin{2\theta} = 2r^2\6\sin\theta\6\cos\theta = 16

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restive river
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now uh

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do you see what to do

verbal pagoda
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is it 2xy

restive river
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yes

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u can simplify

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say divide by 2

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and solve for y

verbal pagoda
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ohh ok ty

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,rccw

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i’m not sure what function to put first in the integral

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i dont think it matters in this case, since you are looking for the geometrical area presumably

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so whatever order u choose will come down to a difference of a - factor

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and the geometrical area will always be positive

verbal pagoda
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then what do i put in the integral?

restive river
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,, A = \412\int_\alpha^\beta r_1^2 - r_2^2\dd\theta

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alpha and beta are the points of intersection between the two

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and r_1 and r_2 are just ur equations

verbal pagoda
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what abt the next one

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pi/2 to 3pi/2 is when it makes the half of the thing

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so multiply by 2 and then i subtracted the area from the first provlem

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,rccw

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one sec

restive river
verbal pagoda
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why 😭

restive river
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well what is 17.586 on the right?

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first of all

verbal pagoda
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area i got from first problem

restive river
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oh

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okay then yeah thats correct kekehands

verbal pagoda
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it wants outside of 6cos0

restive river
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assuming that area is correct

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yeah

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ur work is good although are u sure the area is 17.586? seems to be approximating something irrational

verbal pagoda
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that’s what i got on the calc

restive river
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hopefully u didnt like erase a pi somewhere

verbal pagoda
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i’m not sure how to do the last one

restive river
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yeah so

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u need to differentiate first of all

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,, \dv[y]x = \4{\dv*[y]\theta}{\dv*[x]\theta} = \4{r\6\cos\theta + r'\6\sin\theta}{r'\6\cos\theta -r\6\sin\theta}

verbal pagoda
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ughh

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think this is it from memory

verbal pagoda
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is it when dydx is 0?

restive river
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nah

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like

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the pole is when r = 0

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so solve [
5\6\cos{2\theta} = 0
]
first of all

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verbal pagoda
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pi 3pi ?

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wait idk

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pi/4

restive river
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like

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um

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its gonna be a general solution

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its gonna repeat

verbal pagoda
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i’m confused

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why did i need to find the dydx

restive river
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it is 0 at pi/4 but cos is a periodic function

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it repeats

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so u need to find the general form of the solution

restive river
verbal pagoda
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so what do i do after i get pi/4

restive river
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when is r 0 again after pi/4?

verbal pagoda
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3pi/4v

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?

restive river
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ye

verbal pagoda
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so it’d just be the pi/4 before 2po

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pi

restive river
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so theta = pi/4 + kpi/2

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for any integer k

restive river
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oh

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yes

verbal pagoda
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well it js needs 0 to 2pi

restive river
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yuh so thats fine

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anyways u got ue equations now

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time to compute the derivative

verbal pagoda
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so i js plug in the pi/4 into the derivative

restive river
restive river
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that Will get u the slope

verbal pagoda
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and then i still have to find the x y value

restive river
verbal pagoda
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well doesn’t the tangent line require the y and x value at the angle

restive river
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y - y_1 = m(x-x_1)

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sorry wasn't sure of what u meant there lol

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but yeah just compute the derivative and plug in pi/4 and 3pi/4

verbal pagoda
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don’t i also have to do 5pi/4

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yeah

verbal pagoda
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bruh 😭

restive river
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although i believe it will be ok since the thing will repeat to pi/4

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u will see

verbal pagoda
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i’ll check

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hm

restive river
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hmmmmm

verbal pagoda
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i got 1 and -1 for the slopes

restive river
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i cant verify ur algebra but yeah

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there will be different lines

verbal pagoda
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but i don’t think im doing the x and y stuff right

restive river
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show me ig

verbal pagoda
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this is what i’m putting in

restive river
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oh boy ok lets aee

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i mean

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yeah

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thats right

verbal pagoda
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aren’t they just 0

restive river
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x = rcos(theta) and y = rsin(theta)

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yeah

verbal pagoda
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but doesn’t that just give y = x

restive river
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if u think about it it does make sense because like Ur thing is a bunch of petals

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,w plot r = 5cos(2theta)

verbal pagoda
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i did all that for y = x

restive river
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😭

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its ok u done now tho :D

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also dont forget y = -x

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it can be either

verbal pagoda
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yes

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tysm for helping

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nw

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damn its been 2 hours i didnt even realise

verbal pagoda
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no way 😭😭

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😭

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anyways good luck !! u can close this now if u dont have anything else ig

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How do I make a or c with my calculator using normalcdf/pdf and invnormal?

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So the area to the left of X = 80 is just 0.5

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0.5 + 0.25 = 0.75

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So you need invnormal(0.25, 80, 10)

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For c, the area to the left of a must therefore be 0.05

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For a, b, c, d you only need to use invnormal

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I'll try and close it if it works 🙂

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it works! ❤️

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Hmmm how does this one work? (b, c, e, f)

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i'm doing a paper on something related to probability and statistics, and i searched up for resources on irwin-hall distribution which i need a lot. considering i'm supposed to derive some stuff, i wanted to derive the distribution function from the probability density function and i wanted to cite a proof, however i am not really well versed in advanced calculus (i'm taking ib) so i have no idea how to just get this from integrating

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and i also don't have huge knowledge in probability and stats (i know the basics) and i'm not supposed to fully understand the concept, however i need some steps

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all the stuff not containing (x-k)^n are just constants

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so just use chain rule to differentiate (x-k)^ n

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and you get n (x-k)^(n-1)

wind karma
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oh that's actually true lmao i forgot it's just dx

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then n/n! = 1/(n-1)!

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yea i get it tysm!!!

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np

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Hello. I need help with a problem for stats!

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I was wondering where my teacher got 0.78. (: Sending pic!

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like 1 - 0.22 = 0.78

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Hello

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restive river
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So,

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I get all the words they are saying, I hear them clearly, I have read it multiple times, but I just do not get it

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"A is the original amount of a sample"
"h is the half-life of the substance"
then they say
"the half life of carbon 14 is 5740 years"
"carbon-14 in a sample is 200 g"

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is it clear to see which variables take which values?

restive river
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Confused, idk were to even start

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But, I do understand the variables, or what they mean at least

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Except for half life

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Idk if it means half the life of a substance or something else

lime harbor
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half life is just the amount of time it takes for a substance to reduce by half

restive river
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imagine t = h
we know that P(t) = A(1/2)^(t/h)
so P(t) = A(1/2)^(h/h)
P(t) = A(1/2)^1
P(t) = A(1/2)
in other words, when the time passed is equal to h, the inital amount is equal to half of itself

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the 1/2 being there would ensure that A becomes half of itself once h time passes

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or once t=h said differently

restive river
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So, h equals the time it takes for a substance to half itself, and t equals time passed, so when t gets to the time it takes for a substances to half itself, it then equals h?

lime harbor
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yeah

restive river
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So,

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This helps, but I still dont understand why you need to divide t by h, or have (t/h) as a exponent of 1/2

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Wait so I think im getting it a little, its an exponent of 1/2 because thats how many times its going to half itself?

lime harbor
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yes, the base is 1/2, and the exponent is by how many times it would half itself

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because 1/2 would get multipled exponent times

restive river
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Ok, but I still dont get by you would need to divide t by h

lime harbor
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ok ignore h for now
if i had just P(t) = A(1/2)^t, that would mean that when t=1, it would half itself
but what if something takes 5 units of time to half itself
well you'd have to compensate by dividing t by 5; that's how i see it

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so h would be how long it takes to half itself

restive river
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So, h is the number t would need to be divided by to get a certain number of t?

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And then t would be the number of times something half’s itself?

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if we look at the equation without h, t represents the amount of times you multiply by one half right
P(t) = A(1/2)^t

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(without h)

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so suppose i divide t by 2 or something

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P(t) = A(1/2)^(t/2)

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that means to divide A by half, I need a t of 2 this time, not 1

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because once t=2, the exponent = 1, so then you multiply by 1/2 once

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Oh, because 1/2 is the base of the exponent, so that means if t is divided by any number, it would still be multiplying itself 1/2 times?

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cause when t = the divided number, or t=h, then the exponent = 1

restive river
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Yea

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ye, so then when the exponent is one, (1/2) gets multiplied just once

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so A becomes half of itself

restive river
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Okay, somI now understand it, but

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One more question,

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If I wanted something to be halfed twice, so basically t=2, does that mean h would have to equal half of t?

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if you wanted something to be halfed twice, that would not mean t=2, but rather the exponent =2 (t/h=2)

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unless by t you meant exponent

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then yeah that sounds right

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because if h is half of t, then t/h = t / (0.5t) = 2

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so (1/2) has an exponent of 2

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yes

restive river
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Ok, thx, I got a grasp of it now

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but it's kinda confusing to come up with an h relative to t

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but yeah gl

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The binomial series for ( 1 + x ) n converges if, and only if, − 1 < x ≤ 1 .

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can som1 explain what converges means?

opaque nova
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i dont know what limits are mb

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but a binomial series is already infinite

opaque nova
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Sorry that sounded mean

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Didn't mean to, just genuinely curious

smoky hamlet
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it's in my curriculum

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limits arent

opaque nova
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Fr? R u limits aren't in you curriculum but convergent series are??

smoky hamlet
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yea?

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bra please explain it without limits

opaque nova
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I don't really think there's anyway to solve this without some knowledge of how limits work. Lemme think about it for a sec

smoky hamlet
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ok just go ahead ill try to understand

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@opaque nova where'd ya go

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Like technique wise

smoky hamlet
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that they never end

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opaque nova
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Okay so that's not really true, only in some case.

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Now with the question, it's an iff right so u have to go in both directions.

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I'll help with the -> direction, the other should be straight forward by contraposition

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But so, proving that a series diverges is easier than convergence.

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i dont need to rpove it

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i just need to understand the meaninmeaning of convergence

opaque nova
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Oh shit my bad, that's way easier then.

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Honestly your best bet is youtube. I'll try my best to explain tho.

smoky hamlet
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i couldn't find it on google

opaque nova
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Basically imagine your taking a bunch of numbers that keep getting closer to 0 fast enough that when you add them together you get a fixed number

smoky hamlet
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can you please find a video for me

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that explains convergence

upper schooner
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Basically you can take it to mean "gets you a finite number"

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For example, if you did 1 + 1 + 1 + ... (and didn't stop at any point) that just gets larger and larger and goes to infinity

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There are other series where you can keep adding terms together and it will give you a finite number - are you familiar with geometric series?

smoky hamlet
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yup

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multiply to get new term

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there is a coomon ratio

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common

upper schooner
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Thought so, then when your common ratio has absolute value less than 1, the infinite series converges

fervent ledge
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lol havent learnt that yet

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maybe ill come back after i learn all these things

upper schooner
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In that, for example, something like the series 1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + ... will reach a finite number, which is 2

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The whole a/(1 - r) thing, if you've seen that

fervent ledge
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nah

upper schooner
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Whereas if the common ratio does not have an absolute value less than 1, the infinite series would not reach a finite number

fervent ledge
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Ouch sadcatpat

fervent ledge
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lol i was wrong haha

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ill learn tis after i do the geometric one

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woops

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catThink wait you're not OP, are you? catThink

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im on my alt