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what log rules exactly?
I know that usable there are only log2(a^b)=blog2(a)
log2(a*b)=log2(a)+log2(b)
and log2 is strict increasing
$$\log_{2}\left(n\right)+\frac{2}{n+1}=\log_{2}\left(n\cdot2^{\frac{2}{n+1}}\right)$$
Jelle
ok, i got this
Not sure if this makes it easier
i know that this derives from that
I think it's making it easier, but I need to get somehow to n+1, and i got there
i tried making that left member n+(sqrt2-1)n and prove that (sqrt(2)-1)n>1 but I think it uses another induction so its too exhaustive my thought
Don't think the first inequality is true
Ooh, do you know the standard proof of showing that this series is divergent?
idk what do you mean by standard
i know that
1+1/2+1/4+....=2
but I think that
sn=1+1/2+1/3+1/4+...+1/n>=1+1/2+1/4+1/4+1/8+1/8+1/8+1/8+.....=1+1/2+1/2+1/2+...=+inf =>> sn divergent
Jelle
i know what you mean
and this inequality holds
but whats the use of this substitution?
what do you get after subsituting?
I meant this: $$\sum_{k=1}^{m}\frac{1}{k}\ge1+\frac{\log_{2}\left(m\right)}{2}$$
Jelle
from this
yeah
yeah
thanks, I knew thats standard proof but I was too dumb to think for it
I totally forgot about the 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/8 + .... stuff
whats fun is that this proof used this relation that I have already proven in a previous task , by same manner
thx again
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I dont get this statement
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two subsets of {0,1,2,3} are related if they have the same sum of elements
for example {1, 2} and {3} are related cause 1+2 = 3
{0, 1, 2} and {3} are related cause 0+1+2=3
Would this mean that R2 is reflexive, symmetric and transitive because "=" is reflexive, symmetric and transitive?
pretty much, it's not hard to show that it's an equivalence relation
what about sigma?
just work with it
that's why I said it's easy to see
I didn't say there's 0 work to do
i dont have to show it. I have to chose if it is
"how did you choose ? randomly"
you have to show it in some way, even if it's just in your head
no like the question i have gives me options to choose from
yeah well what's the options then
sounds good
sigma is not a relation so the other two options make no sense at all
ok
that's true
the question is true or my statement is true?
the question
hmm. ok
I have a couple more..
So the first is true because reflexive and irreflexive are two mutually exclusive properties of relations
The second statement is false
not sure about the third one
3rd is false
{(1,2),(2,1),(1,3)}
it's not symmetric cause you have (1, 3) but not (3, 1)
and it's not anti-symmetric cause you have (1, 2) and (2, 1) but 1 != 2
4th is also false
it's possible to be symmetric and anti-symmetric at the same time
there's not a lot of choice for such a relation but it exists
and 5 and 6 are easily true
you have a lot of questions lol
yeah
symmetry is an implication pretty much
x R y -> y R x
you can prove an implication by contrapositive no problem with that
I think this is true
well it is yes
bcuz the pairs(a,a) are in both R2 and R4
yup
only a couple more left i promise 😅
that's the same q lol
even if R2 and R4 are individually irreflexive, their intersection may include pairs (a,a)
so its not guaranteed to be irreflexive
you're really sure about that
i think?
the intersection of R2 and R4 is smaller than R2 for example
if the (a,a) weren't in R2, they're not gonna magically appear in the intersection
yea
oh wait cuz that means there exist elements in the set for which the pair a,a might be present in both relations. So R2 and R4 might have those elements and might not
for this, first is correct i believe
yeah, comes back to the "can a relation be symmetric and anti-symmetric"
yea
is e false
e just means not symmetric
gotta remember your total orders a little
g) means that forall x, y in your set, you have exactly one of x R y or y R x
how does that work out with an equivalence relation ?
for any two elements x and y in S, either x or y belong to the same equivalence class
wait so this means its false?
it's false yeah
if you take x and y in the same equiv class, then you have both xRy and yRx
ok
and the rest is false yes
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because these two aren't the same, so you can't compare it to (tanx+1)/(tanx-1) where they are the same
in the steps of simplifying it into (tanx+1)/(tanx-1), you can see that the 1 changes, so they definitely aren't in the same form
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can anyone help me out with this, ive tried to answer with multiple things but it resets the question every time im just confused how to do it
ping me if anyone is able to help me
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@restive river What do you need help with?
ive posted it above
@restive river Can you measure the numbers?
measure them ?
what do you mean
ive got the regression equation
but im not sure what to do next
i just need help getting the final answer
<@&286206848099549185> well its been 15 minutes, sorry for the ping but is anyone able to assist me ?
i just need help getting the final answer
what does that mean
what does that mean
@restive river Submit your answer
i have to put a final answer to submit it
Put A3
dude what
If you cannot provide useful helpful, please do not provide wrong information
@smoky nimbus I’m just trying to help this person and told him to measure the numbers is there any other way Is there any other way to help him?
The final answer using the last sentence. It asks for you to find the projected number for 2008, and as it mentions, x is the number of years since 2000. So how many years is 2008 from 2000?
That is wrong help
You are not providing useful help
8? but that doesnt make sense
it hsould be in the thousands
like over a thousand
So you know the x value, plug that into the equation that you got
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How do I know I’m ready for calculus 1
(assuming I’m in high school)
Normally the pre reqs are what you need to prepare for calc 1
pre reqs?
What is a pre req
Prerequisite
Copy/paste/select all error my bad
Ok I think I know
So what is the
Pre requesisite
For calculus 1
Assuming I’m in HS
All the math courses that leads into calc 1
Like what subjects
It's whatever your math path is
Wdym
Ok say I take the normal path then
Assuming I’m a high school student taking the normal path
It's still whatever the path is that your school uses
Ok say it starts from algebra 1
Freshmen year algebra 1
so restating
Assuming I’m a high school student taking Algebra 1 in my Freshmen Year
Then you need algebra 1, whatever math from 10th grade, then 11th grade, then calc 1 in 12th
Whatever math that your school uses
Ok algebra 2 and then algebra 3
I don't know the structure of your school
Look it up
Bruh
Ask the teachers at your school
I can’t
cant?
Yea
Get their syllabus, see what material is taught
Cuz it’s thanksgiving break
I don’t have their syllabus
That's why you ask
But I can’t
dont you know anyones email
Then wait until after the holidays
Nope I don’t know any HS teachers school email
Maybe like one of them
Even then I can’t ask them
This is your school, and info you want. Ask the resources at your school, not us. We don't know how your school works
That’s why I said assume I’m a high school student
Cause im not in HS just really interested in math
Yes I am in MS
And yes I am above the age minimum
Then research, google what is normally taught in algebra 2. The structure for algebra 2 is very similar, in most schools
useful things
Well do you use it in calculus
More things for you to research
There is no way you use all this crap to take the derivative of something
You apply concepts of all that
am I gonna find the area of a series
Uh oh
Tis is a little hard
But I’ll be fineeee
This seems like EZ stuff
If it sounds hard, then that means you aren't ready for it yet
MS be the best time to learn calculus haha
Some of my friends can do some weird Gaussian Integral little thingy or whatever
If you don't have the pre reqs for calc, then it will be hard
Then ask your friends how they learned
Sideways but ye
I did they don’t reveal their secret
They’re in 6th
Probably had strict parents yonow
Idk calculus seems easy actually
Cuz if 6th grades can learn it
I can too
As an 8th grader ig
So what do you recommend
But I already know
So
Where do I start
I already know all that now
So where do I start my calculus journey
Continue that math path that leads into calc 1, like I said
But. I already know it
Well good luck. I told you want you need to do, have fun learning
What?
Bruh I already know all that stuff
It’s ezpz
You can give me a quiz
Full marks
It’s just too easy bruh
Math ain’t hard
Bruh
Oh well I don’t need your help cuz I can get someone else help
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another quick one: consider the simple sequence (inf., -inf., 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, ...)
does the series as the partial sums of the above sequence converge (properly or improperly)?
ah solved it
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can someone tell me what im doing wrong here? the answer is supposed to be square root of 3 but idk why i got a minus there
you multiplied by $\frac{\sqrt{\frac{1}{x^2}})}{(\frac{1}{x})}$ instead of $\frac{\sqrt{\frac{1}{x^2}}}{(\frac{1}{\abs{x}})}$
mud ツ
remember that the absolute value of x is x when x is greater than or equal to zero, and negative x when x is less than zero?
oh i see, and since x < 0 it would be -x, so is it just that every time i do these kind of problem, i have to put absolute value?
yes
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Quick question related to partial fractions
How do I equate the coefficients find C?
I know what to do
I just don’t know where to start
,rotate
if you calcualted A and B correctly, then you can set any easy number into x, then you can easy find C
I was thinking of doing that
i often use 0 ro 1
my tutor reccommended I try equating the coefficients though
I'll just use 1 for now
ok
thanks!
🙂
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Does the resulting power series look good?
,w Series[ x (1+9x^2)^(-2),{x,0,Infinity} ]
😭
i just didnt wanna do it by hand
1 sec
you should simplify your answer
I get $\sum _{k=0}^\infty (-1)^{k+1}9^{k-1}kx^{2k-1}$
jan Niku
sure
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can't be 105
should be 17c2
17c2 is 136
@modern frost are you sure its 105?
(n+r-1)C(r-1)
I think it still should be (15+3-1)C(3-1)
direct formula
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kanna
n+d = 198 + ab
now i need gcd(n+d,n) = 1 right
but all the options satisfy that
maybe except choice B
the question asks about the maximum value of $n+d$, where now you know that $n=99$ and $d=99+10a+b$, with $a\ne b$ and $\gcd(n,d)=1$
ミコ
so maybe you can try different possible values of $(a,b)$ and hope that $\gcd(n,d)=1$
ミコ
oh you are right
that takes forever 😭 , right?
no, $n=99+10a+b$ and it is obvious that how to assign $a$ and $b$
ミコ
and for gcd you only have to check if $n$ is divided by $3$ or $11$ since $99=3^2\times11$
ミコ
wait i forgot but where did you get 10a + b?
I change the notation from $99+ab$ to $99+10a+b$ to avoid ambiguity
ミコ
since $a$ and $b$ are digits
ミコ
oh wait 😭 hahah i forgot my own notation
i was like how did you do that when ab is multiplication of two numbers
lol
i'm not sure how to proceed
n + d = 99 + 10a + b + 99 = one of the answer choices
so 10a + b = 98 or 10a + b = 99 or 10a + b = 100 or 10a+b = 101 or 10a + b = 103
yes
if we ignore the answers and I ask you how to maximum $10a+b$ where $a$ and $b$ are distinct 1-digit number, what would you try?
ミコ
a = 9 b = 8
that's right
and that's 98, which is the first option you got
and we now have to check if $\gcd(n,d)=1$
ミコ
which is $99$ and $197$
ミコ
I'm confused lol
n/d was (99 + 10a + b)/99
n+d = 99 + 99 + 10a + b
to maximize this where a and b are one digit numbers and distinct a = 9 and b = 8
Result:
296
oh which is choice A
yes
you're welcome
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The questions are on swedish
a) enter the valurnorna set of the function
b) solve the equation 2•f(x+2)=6 with help from the graphene
what is valurnorna set
oh swedish word eh wait lemme translate
like the Y level
it says the ballot of boxes
?
idk
Decimal pair for specifying a quantity range with a unit of measure.
i think it's trying to say the domain set of the function
maybe
so then considering it is asking domain of the given function in which it is defined then .. it is [-2,∞)
for y
we can deduce this from the given graph that it starts from -2 where it gives 0 and till x =∞
that is called range and it is [0.∞) again from the graph it starts taking value of y from x=-2 which gives y=0 and proceed to y =∞ when x=∞
no
ok
it's y>0
alr
as the graph give all positive values of y
just shift the given graph of function by 2 units in the left direction..
i dont get it
or just replace x with x+2 so the function will become f(x+2)=sqrt((x+2)+2)
then simply solve the equation
i think i understand now
yes oky
but how do i solve that equation?
2.sqrt(x+4)=6 (just open the parentheses)
=>sqrt(x+4)=3 (divide 2 on both the sides)
=>x+4=9 (square both the sides)
=>x=5 (subtract 4 on both side)
as f(x+2) is now sqrt((x+2)+2)
it's oky
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aa + bb = cdc
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- / / -
ee + cc = aa
= = = = =
cc × b = bb
- / / -
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its an calcrostic puzzle
i dont really understand what they really are
how about a picture
do you have a problem statement that came along with this?
c is 11
thats pretty simple
but e is probably the hardest
since theres nothing else that uses e
so if we find a we can also find e
well you can figure out d from that
cdc is divisible by 11
and then you can just go through the options for a
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I'm having difficulty in trying to find a way to approach solving this recursive function. I thought of approaching it as a difference equation, but the form does not really fit. or does it? I don't really know.
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by the way, the values for time and Pgas are controlled by a data set I've made.
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Hello I have an exam coming up today and I'm still stuck with this exercise. can someone walk me through it. explain it like i play fortnite pls
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write it as a matrix system
@nova bramble
find eigenvalues
then eigenvectors
write homogeneous solution
then find particular solution
solve particular solution
then write general solution
then solve using initial conditions
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i used multisets once in a paper. we just wrote them with normal set notation like {4,4,4} or something.
formally, you have an underlying set A, and then a function m : A --> Z^+ that gives the multiplicity of each element in A
so the "formal" construction in ZFC would be a set like {1} and the function m : {1} -> Z^+ defined by m(1) = 5. this would be the multiset {{1,1,1,1,1}} (writing a multiset as {{ }})
hmm that's bad notation. maybe [1,1,1,1,1] is better
what is your problem? 
logic puzzle
lol
you can write it as like {n \in \N | <n satisfies some thing>} or just "let A be a multiset of..."
then people will know its a set with possible duplicates in it
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"expand the brackets" = FOIL
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F - First terms in each bracket
O - Outer terms in each bracket
I - Inner terms in each bracket
L - Last terms in each bracket
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hello
i have a question
for the function Arccos(sinx)
why the domain is R but the range is [0:pi] ?
the domain depend of the () and the range depend of arccos ?
what's the range of arccos?
yes
and the range is [0:pi] because it's Arccos
but i have another question
if it was sin(arccosx)
the domain would be [-1:1]
and range R ?
what's the range of sin?
exactly, so the range can't be R
beware, it's not [-1;1] either tho
a bit less than that
its an arccos
its only from 0 to 1 for X
sin can only have the value from 0 to pi/2
?
@frozen aurora hey sorry to ping are u still here
@vivid topaz we know sin(x) is defined for all real numbers, and the output of sin(x) is a number between [-1,1]
arccos(sin(x)), the arccos() function used the range of sin(x) which is a number between [-1,1]
if you feed arccos() a number between [-1,1], you get the range of [0, pi]
the output of sinx is between [0:1] because of the arccos ?
no no no
think of arccos being dependent on the output of sinx
we give sinx any real number ‘x’
output mean range or domain
output = range
and then sinx gives us an output (range) between [-1,1]
other way around
accident sorry
ok nppp
we know that by default arccos is defined between [-1,1] right
yeah
so then the output of sinx must be within these boundaries
which it indeed is
so when arccos takes an input of a values between [-1,1]
its range must be between [0, pi]
yeah
?
no here
oh sorry
np
ok let’s do the same process
we know that arccos(x) has a domain for a number between [-1,1]
sinx is R --> [-1;1]
if we feed sin the range of [0, pi]
what feed mean
like input
ok
we get an output (range) of [0,1]
because sin(0) = 0
because sin(pi) = 1
domain is [-1,1] because this is the maximal domain of arccosx
and the output of this satisfies sin
it’s a composite function
we work from the inner function to the outer function
we know sin(x) has a domain for all real numbers
but in this case it’s sin(arccos(x))
we need to satisfy where arccos(x) is defined for values of x
oh ok
and then check whether what arccos(x) outputs, is an ok input for sin
ok thanks
does it make sense
yes
okay cool any other questions?
maybe 1 hour later i will get other questions
okay good luck!
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$5x^{7x}$
Merineth
If i have a function like this
and i'm supposed to find the derivate
Is there any advice on where to start?
apply chain rule
i tried that but i got stuck
for example
7x falls down infront of 5x
7x decreases by 1
Rewrite $x^{7x}$as $e^{7x\ln(x)}$
Umbraleviathan
Yes i was thinking that at first
Nope
Then why didn't you place the parentheses around 5x lmao
Okay so
$e^{7x\ln(5x)$
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Yeah
The derivative of ln(ax) is still 1/x
So the 5 in the 5x shouldn't be too much of a hassle
dont i just disregard the 5x inside the ln for now
and do *5 after product rule
or rather 5x = x
I mean, you could, but then you'd just do being 1/(5x) * 5 somewhere in there
Which simplifies down to 1/x
Hence this
If you want, you can also rewrite ln(5x) as ln(x) + ln(5)
And you get 7xln(x) + 7ln(5)x
$e^{7xln(5x)} * 7x * \frac{1}{5x} + 7 * ln(5x) * 5$
Merineth
Am i thinking correct so far?
Chain rule makes e^x stay the same
multiplied with the product rule of 7x * ln(5x)
- 5 at the end for the final (5x) chain rule
I'm not sure i follow
I'm using the f(x) * g'(x) + f'(x) * g(x)
Where:
f(x) = 7x
g(x) ln(5x)
f(x) * g'(x) + f'(x) * g(x)
7x * 1/5x + 7 * ln(5x)
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@dry robin I kinda need help in a geometry problem but is in my language,not in English so...
send it
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its asking for you to compare
so look at rhs , and see what one factor it has done for you
I meant 14b
trial and error, check for multiple values of x for which y gives 0
i.e factor
and notice how the cubic is same so...
Oh okay, but is there no one method to factorise them?
They've given you a root, x=3 divide the cubic with (x-3) to get a qudratic quotient
That quadratic quotient is easily factorisable
Mb, x+3 it is
U do not have to divide you already found the result in part a
I've not done part a yet, idk how to do it
Expand and compare
Oh okay thank you
But can you still show me where I've gone wrong in here?
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Hi yuh, wondering if someone can explain how to do this, thax
conservation of momentum i believe🙃
So do Alfie and Beth stick together after the collision?
v_f ?
Final velocity
Velocity after they get stuck
uh huh
Anyways
Np homez
Show work
How’d u get -84-84?
(I've tried doing negative)
Where’d u get this minus sign from
oh uhh
i mixed it up with a different equation
m1u1-m2u2 = momentum before
i think
okay so: -84 + 84 = 70v?
90v but yes
but then isnt the answer 0
Think about the problem logically
One ball is moving rightwards with a momentum of 84 kg * m/s
The other ball is moving leftwards with a momentum of 84 kg * m/s
What’s gonna happen when they collide and stick?
it will be very loud i can imagine
What if they’re tennis balls lol
But what will happen to their motion
If u collide them like that and they have tape so they stick together
What’s gonna happen
v = 0 in a 1d world
stationary?
So ur saying upon the collision, both balls stick and don’t move?
thats what the answer says
Yep
Try doing some physics experiments irl
Yo
Bruh just apply the same formula
Lol
shu
?
I was referring to this lol
Stephennnnnn
360 - 31d = 240d
she is really light
or i done somethign wrong
either way round
oh wait
i got it
she is 3.6 kg
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Am i not supposed to be getting the same answer with both of these methods, or am i imputting it wrong? 
,calc 1.357/50
Result:
0.02714
its right with the parentheses, i dont understand why though 😨 teacher im following doesnt do it
Order of operations - in writing it's clearer to show what you intend to mean, it's easy to e.g. see what you mean by $1.357^{\frac1{50}}$
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You can see that's supposed to mean that the 1/50 is the whole exponent, but for the calculator it isn't when you input it like that
ahhh i see, calculator dumb and needs more precise stuff
As powers take precedence it's interpreting the original as doing 1.357^1 first then dividing that by 50, hence this
Wellll I'd more put it that it can't read your mind 
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"continuous" doesn't refer to the graph, it refers to the function
The function f(x) is continuous"
why can’t I just say a function is continuous excluding points x y and z
you can say whatever you want, but your intuition disagrees with textbooks, so you're just gonna confuse yourself
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Hi this is an algebra question
these are the axioms i am using
all i'd like to know is how to start a question like this? i'm referring to (b)
so you're only allowed to assume the axioms and the fact that x and y not equal to 0, but i'm unsure what to do now
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The angle between the lines x=1, y=2 and y=-1, z=0 is
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An elephant and a lion are currently $1$ mile apart. The elephant runs directly away from the lion at $19$ miles per hour, while the lion runs directly towards the elephant at $24$ miles per hour. How many minutes will it take for the lion to catch the elephant?
Your Answer: 7.2
Solution:
Every hour, the lion runs 24 miles while the elephant runs 19. Thus, the distance between the two animals closes at a rate of 5 miles every hour. The lion catches the elephant after this distance has closed 1 mile, which takes $\frac{1}{5}$ hours to do, or $\frac{1}{5}\cdot 60 = \boxed{12}$ minutes.
龖
why cant u just find the LCM
then divide by 60 for minutes
i got 7.2
why doesnt it work
19x + 1 = 24x
you can do that. why not?
but that'll be true if they're approaching each other
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Hm
Jjst find when f'(x) = tan(21.8°)
But
You'd also have to understand that typically means 21.8° from the horizontal
Since f(x) is a parabola, it should only@be one point
so the angle on the right is 21
and on the left is -21
?
but technically the left one is also 21
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Trey receives a $5%$ commission on every sale he makes. On the sale of a $$60$ coat (before any discounts), how many more cents will he receive if his commission is based on the original price of the coat rather than the price of the coat after a $20%$ discount?
Your First Answer: 3
Your Second Answer: 12.6
Solution:
A $60 coat with a 20$%$ discount costs $60(0.8) = 48$ dollars. The difference in commission is $0.05(60 - 48) = 0.05(12) = 0.6$ dollars, or $\boxed{60}$ cents.
