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Yea u got it

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Is this right

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I think so

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Was right

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Could someone help me with this F?

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Given a rectangle ABCD where |AB| : |BC| = 2 : 1.
On its sides AB, BC, CD, DA are given by
K, L, M, N so that KLMN is a rectangle,
in which |KL| : |LM| = 3 : 1. Calculate the ratio
of the areas of the rectangles ABCD and KLMN.

My process:
AB = 2x, CD = x, MN = 3y, KN = y
AKN is similar to DNM, k = 3 (hypotenuse of DNM is 3y and hypotenuse of AKN is y)
DN = 3AK, DM = 3AN
hence 3AN + AK = 2x and AN + 3AK = x
so x = 8AK, AN = 5AK
S(ABCD) = x * 2x = 8AK * 16AK = 128AK²
NK² = AN² + AK² = 25AK² + AK² = 26AK²
S(KLMN) = 3 * NK² = 78AK²
S(ABCD) : S(KLMN) = 128:78 = 64:39

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I find the answer a bit weird.Is it correct or did I made mistake somewhere?

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following from this message, I am unable to find any ordered pairs satisfying the condition. #help-32 message

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assume when you press a button, a 60% chance that a number from 1,2,3 randomly chosen will show up, if a number shows up then that number and the numbers below it will never show up, what is the average ammount of presses needed until 3 shows up?

solid osprey
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so say you get a 2 in the first press, your not getting a 1 or a 2 after that

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dunno how to start

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like i would assume you would say that you can get 1, 2, 3 in the first "show up" and the 2 will show a 3, the 1 will either show a 2 or 3 and if its a 2 it would be 3 next

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if you average ir all out you will get (3+2+(2×2)+(1×2))/6 which is

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1.8333333...

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but thats the number if it showing, do you actually just divide it by 60%?

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5 times?

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The chances of you getting a 3 is 60% times 1/3 or 20%

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Meaning on avg, it should take 5 presses

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restive river
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I have a Differential equation: dy/dx=(x-4y+2)^2 I dont know wich method to use but i do know the answer.

cold bough
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$dy/dx=(x-4y+2)^2$

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restive river
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i know the answer is (2x-8y+3)/(2x-8y+5)=C*e^-4x

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supple knot
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Should get a separable equation in terms of u and x

restive river
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Im not sure to understand

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U=x-4y

supple knot
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Have you taken integral calculus before

restive river
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Yes sorry i just didn’t made the association

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Im just not sure how the substitution will lead me to the answer

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supple knot
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Substitution is a common technique

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And if you don't try it yourself you won't understand why it works

restive river
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do you mean seperation of variables?

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restive river
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i dont know what is the substitution technique. I only know direct integration, bernoulli, linear first order, homogeonous first order, seperation of variables and exacts (with or withoutn integration factor)

supple knot
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Even if you haven't seen it, plugging u = x-4y is a straightforward substitution with no chain rule

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restive river
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but where do you want me to plug u=x-4y?

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restive river
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i think i might catch what you meant hold on

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is this what u meant

supple knot
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...

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Just screenshot and upload.

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restive river
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oops

supple knot
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...

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Your very first line is wrong

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,tex .freshman

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riemann

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@restive river do you still need help?

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restive river
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fixing the first line?

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Not yet im on my lunch break

restive river
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Ok guys im back

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Here’s what I have come up with

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Am i getting there?

vapid nest
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,tex .freshman

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nosqldb

restive river
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I havent use @supple knot substitution though

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Sorry my line 1 is still wrong uh

restive river
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i cannot tell if it's right or wrong or incomplete

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how did they get x0 as 1

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How is this not right?

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is my answer correct??

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barren frigate
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Can someone help me confirm?

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barren frigate
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That b) has one solution

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because not accute and a__>__b is true since 8 is bigger than 7

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and that c) is one solution as well because a__>__b

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right?

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Since:

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restive river
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Find all functions R to R
F(x+y) + f(x-y) = 2f(x) + 2f(y)

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restive river
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Yes

mild comet
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try the usual tricks with functional equations: substitute in x = 0, y = 0, x = 1, y = 1, or x = y

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and then you’ll have some relations you can use to find values for f(0) and f(1), hopefully

restive river
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I got smth like
F(2x) = 4f(x)

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F(0) = 0

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And got stuck

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restive river
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Typo

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Srry

mild comet
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try substituting x = 0

restive river
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Ok

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F(y) = f(-yl got this

mild comet
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so the function is even

restive river
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Thats the answer?

mild comet
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No, the question says to find all functions from R to R

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and we’ve only gotten one or two constraints

restive river
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Oh

mild comet
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how about y = 2x and y = ax

restive river
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I got f(3x) = 5f(x)

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And
2f(x) = f(x(a-1)) + f(x(a+1)) - 2f(ax)

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restive river
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f(y) = f(-y)doesnt apply for x right?

mild comet
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x and y are just dummy variables

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they could be s or t or u or v or w

restive river
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So f(3x) + f(-x) = 2f(x) + 2f(2x)
F(3x) = 4f(x)
F(3x) + f(x) = 2(fx) +8f(x)
So, f(3x)= 9f(x)

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Ohhhh, makes sense

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Thanks

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Nice

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could someone help me with this? i have no idea how to even start

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Do you know what the principle of inclusion exclusion is

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no

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Okay I’d start there then

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i tried watching a video on it

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dont understand anything

weak cove
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Well I assume this is for a class

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And it was covered in a lecture , or a textbook you have access too

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Have you tried either of those?

kindred kayak
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i have slides

weak cove
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I doubt that someone here can explain better than whatever materials were provided to you (or can be found online)
As far as just learning the topic that is.
The problem itself we can help once you are familiar just a bit with inclusion exclusion

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Could you point to a specific piece of the slides that you don’t understand?

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its actually a video

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i have to watch it first

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Okay try that and then if parts of it confuse you, ask about them here

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It wouldn’t make sense to do that if you don’t know what inclusion exclusion is

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Right

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So it’s best we don’t

kindred kayak
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i can get like an idea on how to solve the problem

weak cove
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The idea involves using the inclusion exclusion principle almost exactly 😭

kindred kayak
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i have to create a venn diagram?

weak cove
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Please just watch the entire video

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The question is testing your knowledge of the inclusion exclusion principle

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So it requires that you know what that is and how it works

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Which requires you watch the video atleast once

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A 200-W motor operates a Carnot refrigerator between -2 to 15 C.
(a) What is the amount of heat per second extracted from the inside of the refrigerator? (b) How much heat is exhausted to the outside air per second? c) Suppose a Carnot engine can be operated between two reservoirs as either a heat engine or a refrigerator. How is the coefficient of performance of the refrigerator related to the efficiency of the heat engine?

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ask chatgpt

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or show work

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i can show work

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ok ask chatgpt

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why?

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How do I solve the row number 4

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??

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idk

dense jay
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semi-annually, twice a year

stuck ether
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how do I solved for the payment if the future value and present value is missing??

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and vise versa

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good point, hm

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dont believe you can

stuck ether
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there should be a way

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because our teacher did not say that the problem is unsolvable

dense jay
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unless theres some information you havent shown, then as far as i can tell, no

stuck ether
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thats all that there is

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I already tried deviating but nothing

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hmm, do I give the value for the payment???

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just a hint

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stfu

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use grammar

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for starters

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okay

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does this bot help with math questions using excel forms?

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this bot?

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The theoretical probability of the following

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I believe my calculations are correct, but I just wanted to get a second opinion on the first two lines. Did I interpret the question correct?

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I know how to find the derivative but the given point is giving me trouble

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And the “four second partial derivatives” part is confusing too, do the want the next 4 derivatives or what?

quaint citrus
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f_xx,f_yy_f_xy,f_yx

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quaint citrus
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Ok ur first image is correct

cerulean crater
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In the second one I found the equation for the tangent plane, with the points plugged in

quaint citrus
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How come

cerulean crater
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I was thinking I can use that to look for the x direction and y direction slopes at the point

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It was also the equation professor taught us last (which isn’t a good reason 😅 )

quaint citrus
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lol

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Well idk what functional notation is

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But to find slope of a surface at a given point

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Just plug ur point into ur calculated partials

cerulean crater
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Okay I’ll do that now, but what about the z value in the coordinates?

quaint citrus
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So it’d be f_x(2,1) = ? And f_y(2,1) = ?

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Good

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I think so

cerulean crater
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It’s just 5 and 6, that makes sense according to the other equation of the tangent plane

quaint citrus
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Yea

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Also

quaint citrus
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For part B use clairauts for mixed partials

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Oh

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cerulean crater
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Oh yes, we learned that one last lecture too, I just didn’t recognize the name

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quaint citrus
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Yes

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Thanks man, you saved me!

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Np

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Appreciate the help, have a good sir

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Hello
so, I was 3b1b's video on the Fourier series

finite briar
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Now that I am done watching

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I want to apply it

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consider the following graph

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generated by this code

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wait actually

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I should try this first thonk

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lemme try this

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hmm okay so the problem is integrating a piecewise function involving modular arithmetic

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something like this

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wait no this isnt the graph of what I plotted

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Could i have help with this question

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the blank would be <1 is congruent to <6

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cuz if <1 is congruent to <3 (givent) and <3 is congruent to <6 then <1 is congruent to <6

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is there any diagram given?

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Could you help with 4 and 5 also @safe knoll

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it would be simpler with a diagram

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Sorry

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There it is

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i was wondering if there was a diagram

safe knoll
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oh i thought they were triangle NervousSweat

pseudo basin
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angles 3 and 6 are not congruent due to "defn of congruence"

safe knoll
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<1 and <4 are congruent due to vertical angles

wintry jasper
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its because they are opposite angles

safe knoll
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vertical angles are always equal

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huh thats what they're called?

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A pair of angles opposite each other, formed by two intersecting straight lines that form an "X"-like shape, are called vertical angles or opposite angles or vertically opposite angles. They are abbreviated as vert. opp. ∠s.

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all the names are valid ig but thats besides the point

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@short island you can find which angles are equal using the vertical angle theorem

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message here once you're done with that much?

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Okay thank you

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Regarding the product to sum identities for Trig: Do I need both sinAcosB and cosAsinB?

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not really just remember one of them and switch the sin and cos if you get it in the other order

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Hello, can you please check my mathematic calculations. i am cross-referencing my friends and I am not getting the values like my friend.

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So this is my data.

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This is her data

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our density of ice (method 2) does not match up

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i used this equation

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we got the first one (that's the same) but the other values we got different

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This is how i approached it in excel...

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i even crossed check my second data with symbolab.. same answer

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tan^2(theta)-1 = 0

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I am not sure where to start

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gentle reminder that simply not saying anything is always an option

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i believe I have to use algebra in some way, but math isnt my strong suit lol

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It did

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okay i thought i was going insane

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yes, whoops

pseudo basin
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do you know the unit circle...?

marsh isle
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yes i do

pseudo basin
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like, whatever you do, you'll end up reducing tan^2(x) - 1 = 0 to tan(x) = ±1

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so you need to know which angles have tan equal to 1 or to -1

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If that's not understandable, try introducing a new variable for tan(θ), solve that and then substitute back

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If I'm given a transformation such as f(x/5), how should I approach it? How would it affect a coordinate on a graph? And because it's horizontal, am I supposed to make it the opposite of itself cutethink

Links to resources that I could use would also work! I can't find anything explaining a transformation using division anywhere online

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what kind of transform is that?

cerulean rover
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dilation right?

frozen aurora
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nope

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horizontal stretch

cerulean rover
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Isn't that a type of dilation?

frozen aurora
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maybe my english isn't the best

cerulean rover
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oh np

frozen aurora
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wdym by dilation, then?

cerulean rover
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it would compress by 1/2

frozen aurora
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oh i looked it up. yes, dilation

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so now, instead of (2)*x, we have (1/5)*x

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it would compress by __?

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just follow from how you got 1/2

cerulean rover
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ohh so just x divided by 5?

frozen aurora
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yes

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it would compress by 5

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aka stretch/dilate/whatever

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open up desmos and put some sample functions and play around. i've never had any issues with function transformations simply because i gained my intuition from just tampering with parameters

cerulean rover
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that's actually really good advice happy_cry_cat thank you so much!

frozen aurora
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you can also think of the stretch in terms of "time" if travelled from right to left

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if instead of f(x) you had f(x/5), it would take x 5 times as much "time" to get to the same value as before

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it doesn't matter what kind of intuition you pick as long as it works for you lol

cerulean rover
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Ohhh that makes a lot of sense

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haha yes

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and since it's horizontal, am I supposed to divide by 5 inside of 1/5?

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divide what?

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x?

cerulean rover
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the coordinate

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yes x

frozen aurora
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multiply by 5

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or divide by 1/5 ig

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same thing

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pfft

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i think dividing is better

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if you have $f(ax)$, $a \in \mathbb{R}$, then the coordinate will now be at $\frac{1}{a}$

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artemetra

cerulean rover
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OH

frozen aurora
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makes sense right?

cerulean rover
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yes!! Thank you

frozen aurora
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no problem

cerulean rover
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using desmos is the best idea ever

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Thank you so much for that too

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would the next x value be 0.5 or 1?

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,rotate

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Why when sometimes I calculate it shows 1. as an answer? What does the dot mean?

mild bronze
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The answer is 1 lol

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Just to be clear this is what your calculator reads the way you have typed it $\frac{6}{2(2+1)}$

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mild bronze
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I don’t understand

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I’s in the end

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Like

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There's no difference between 1 vs 1.

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Why kid

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Because that's just how the calculator did it

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Might be some setting you have

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Why did you harass me in DMs?

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what is he yappin about?

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How is the second bound obtained?

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-17/x + 6 is you top border and its a monotonically non-increasing function

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that means that your highest point x = 0

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lowest is x = 12/17

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then you just write your top border as x(y)

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just draw it to make it easier to understand

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no clue how to do this

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a(x+b)^2+c=0

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find the appropriate a b and c

midnight terrace
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alr ty

dense jay
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that doesnt even have a vertex, again

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should just say complete the square

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unless it wants to make a function from it, but meh

midnight terrace
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agh too bad i cant ask my teacher

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you can still do it ig

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do you know the general process of completing the square

midnight terrace
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kinda

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add to both sides (b/2)^2

dense jay
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sure

midnight terrace
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then factor i think

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n simplify it

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midnight terrace
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c on the other side of =

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i mean, give me the whole equation at that stage after doing that

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nw

midnight terrace
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x^2-8x=-12

dense jay
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i guess, but thats not helpful

midnight terrace
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then +16 on both sides

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factor

dense jay
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actually

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(x-4)^2=4

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the left side of this is fine for immediate factorisation if youre gonna do it like this

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then just move the 4 over

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(x-4)^2-4=0?

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that would be all

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not sure how to even go about this

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for a), you need some trig ratio that relates x and y

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I am confused on how to factor this trinomial, I tried to solve using the Pythagorean theorem but it didnt help. Im not sure which numbers to mulply or add to start factoring

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Why Pythagorean theorem?

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idk I was just spit balling

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Do you know how to factor in general?

vernal lion
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yea, you have to find a common factor

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yes the video clears alot of thins up

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for thr trinomial I cant seem to find any two numbers that when multiplied equal 18 but when added equal -17

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It can be in any possible combination

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But don't forget, it's A * C, and A = 6 and C = -3

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So that's -18

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omg your right 🫢

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sorry

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So now you find the combinations of pairs that multiply to -18 but add to -17

vernal lion
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(x−3)(6x+1) ok here is what I got as a final answer

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alright yea it was correct thxs for the help

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I was getting some help earlier on this

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Where I left off was that I needed to make this in terms of sin

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I know csc is 1/sin

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so 1/sin(5x) = =2sqrt(3)/3 is as far as I've gotten

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this seems familiar to me but I can't exactly remember the means to solving it

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flip both sides to get sin5x=-3/(2sqrt3)

flat marlin
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Wait I can flip both sides

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Thats insen

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Okay so sin(5x) is -3/(2sqrt(3))

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So now I assume the next step is to somehow solve for (maybe an angle of) 5x?

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yes try getting rid of the square root on the denom

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and using trig exact values

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eviscerate it by rationalising

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Okay

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I havent rationalized in a hot minute

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Would that be multiplied by just sqrt3/sqrt3 or does the 2 come along for the ride as well

brittle burrow
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just the square root

flat marlin
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Okay so sin(5x) = -3sqrt(3)/12

brittle burrow
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not 12

flat marlin
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Oopoops yeah

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6

brittle burrow
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yeah

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which finally simplifies to -sqrt3/2

flat marlin
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ahhhhh

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now I recognize this more

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So its a 60 degree triangle I believe

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in the 4th quadrant

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?

brittle burrow
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which would be -60, but that's not the only possible answer
it is a property of sine that sin(180-x)=sinx
and sin(x+k360)=sinx for any multiple of k

flat marlin
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So its -60, 240, 300

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also does the 3rd quadrant work too

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I was just thinking about that

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yes if you subtract 360 from 240

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but also keep in mind the domain asked, from 0 to 360

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the current answers you have are for 5x, so you're going to need more repeated solutions to find all of the solutions in that domain

flat marlin
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Not sure what you mean by that

brittle burrow
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and sin(x+k360)=sinx for any multiple of k
gives repeated solutions, like -60, 300, 660, etc. are all answers, but they are the same position on the unit circle

flat marlin
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Yeah yeah I get that

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not sure about the repeated solutions thing though

brittle burrow
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and then about the 5x: to find values for just x, you will divide by 5
so 300 turns into just 60, for example
so you need to add more multiples of 360 to get all the answers for x:[0,360)

flat marlin
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ohhh

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so -60, 300, 660, 1020, 1380, 1740, 2100

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2100 is too much

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so 1740

brittle burrow
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and the same for 240

flat marlin
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1740/5 is 348

brittle burrow
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yes

flat marlin
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Ahh okay so

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-60, 240, 300, 360, 420, 480?

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or did I do that wrong

brittle burrow
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we'll start from $\sin(5x)=\frac{-\sqrt3}2$

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chlamydia

brittle burrow
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which gives $5x=-60, 300, 660, ...,$ and $240, 600, 960, ...$ by adding multiples of 360

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chlamydia

flat marlin
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Ahh

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So for 360

flat marlin
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for 300

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wait

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-60 to 240 is 300

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and then 240 to 600 is 360

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and 360

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I'm not sure I get this

brittle burrow
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those are two separate sets of repeated solutions

flat marlin
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ohhh

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okay okay I see

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so 240 is the seperate set

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and I need to add 360 to that set

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so 240, 600, 960, 1320

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1680

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and that should be it

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so -60, 300, 660, 1020, 1380, 1740, 2100, 240, 600, 960, 1320, 1680

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All of those are the solutions?

brittle burrow
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for 5x, yes
but not -60 because the domain is from 0 to 360

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no negative solutions

flat marlin
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AH

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yeah that's right

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So

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I'm assuming this probably needs to be in radians

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or nah

brittle burrow
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the question is in radians, so yes

flat marlin
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Okay so

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5pi/3 , 11pi/3, 17pi/3 , 23pi / 3, 29pi/3, 35pi/3, 4pi/3, 10pi/3, 16pi/3, 22pi/3, and 28pi/3

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Solve for $x$ in: [
5^{\map \ln x} + x^{\map \ln x} + 5^{1 + \map \ln x} = 35
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restive river
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so uh

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i can see some obvious factoring and mingling to do in there

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but nothing that makes this easier to solve

echo lagoon
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combine those 5s so its nicer on the eye

restive river
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yeah

echo lagoon
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6*5^lnx

restive river
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yeah

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still kind of messy

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from that

echo lagoon
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i smell quadratic equation

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try doing e^ln on both the 5 and x

restive river
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oh wait

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change of base

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thats probably it isnt it

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lmao this is so dumb

rich summit
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,w 5^ln(x) + x^ln(x) + 5^(1 + ln(x)) = 35

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I don't think there is a nice solution

restive river
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no there is

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its a multiple choice question to a university entrance exam lmao

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oh wait

rich summit
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you mistyped

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did i typo this catThimc

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oopsie

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ok so I just wanna make sure I'm getting this problem right

vestal hornet
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Use the Newton-Raphson method to figure estimate the 0-points with with an error that is smaller than $10^-5$
The functions have 0-points in the given interval

$$f(x) = x\sin x - \cos x \qquad x \in [0, \frac{\pi}{2}]$$

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I didn't really get how to choose the first number, so I threw a shot in the dark and chose pi/4

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so

$$f'(x) = x\cos x + 2\sin x$$
$$x_0 = \frac{\pi}{4}$$
$$x_1 = \frac{\pi}{4} \times \frac{\frac{\pi}{4} \times \sin (\frac{\pi}{4}) -\cos(\frac{\pi}{4})}{\frac{\pi}{4} \cos (\frac{\pi}{4}) + 2 \sin (\frac{\pi}{4})}
$$

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and then solve that fraction, equate that to x_2, and go on until the error margin is smaller than 10^-5 ?
or am I missing something here?

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for $\m gx = \m {f^{-1}} x$: [
\m fx = \f1x -12\m gx
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I'm trying to find the solution to this functional equation
i never did functional equations with inverses
what's the technique for these situations thonk

finite briar
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Ig isolate g(x)?

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u could also try calculate the inverse function using the second equation in terms of g(x) thonk

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but its possible that might involve g^-1 (x)

restive river
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restive river
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although dont know how to proceed

finite briar
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wait I have dealt with functional equations of the form f(af(x)) = something before

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but i dont remember 😭

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u can get $f(f(x)) \times f(x) = 1 - 12xf(x)$ by subbing in f(x) into x. might be useful idk

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Frog_Man

finite briar
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well f(f(0))=1

finite briar
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(I am subbing x=1 to find something)

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okay no doesnt help

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let $\frac{f(x)}{12x} - \frac{f(x)}{12} = z$ @restive river can you try substitue for x, f(x) from this equation?

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ItzKraken

restive river
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substitute for x?

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restive river
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[
x = \f{\m fx}{\m fx + 12z}, \q \m fx \ne -12z, ; x\ne 0
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finite briar
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okay that did not become what I was thinking..but if we substitute from here, \
$\frac{f(x)}{f(x) + 12z} = f(z)$

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ItzKraken

finite briar
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then $f(x) = f(z) \cdot (f(x) + 12z)$

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ItzKraken

finite briar
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then subbing for f(x), $f(x) = \frac{12zx}{1-x}$

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ItzKraken

finite briar
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$\frac{12zx}{1-x} = f(z) \cdot ( \frac{12zx}{1-x} + 12z)$

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ItzKraken

finite briar
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$\frac{12zx}{1-x} = f(z) \cdot ( \frac{12zx+12z-12zx}{1-x})$

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ItzKraken

finite briar
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$\frac{12zx}{1-x} = f(z) \cdot ( \frac{12z}{1-x})$

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ItzKraken

finite briar
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wait this becomes f(z) = x

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wait this is the same functional equation we started with devastation

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bathroom mug

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tidal mulch
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I was checking if that was possible

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1/x can be in your functional equation for f(x) and f(0) can still be defined

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Or wait is it possible

tidal mulch
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I mean you can try guessing solutions

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Definitely won't have polynomial solutions

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f(x)=1/13x works

calm frigate
tidal mulch
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z?

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No you're supposed to find f(x)

calm frigate
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oh ok ok

tidal mulch
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arctic field
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@restive river hmmge

restive river
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omg the legend is here

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help me with my FE pls xd

tidal mulch
restive river
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but yeah 1/13 seems to be a solution

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yeah

tidal mulch
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Are there any other?

restive river
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I'm unsure yet

tidal mulch
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Do you have the solutions

restive river
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nope

tidal mulch
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If there are other this is pretty scary

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Its pretty scary even if this is the only one

restive river
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right in time for Halloween I guess

tidal mulch
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1/13x is the only polynomial solution

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Not a polynomial

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I mean any solution thats a combination of powers of x

restive river
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so rational?

tidal mulch
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Yeah I was trying to find that word

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You need degree 0 by degree 1 or else the degrees of both sides dont match up

arctic field
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like you did with that other question

restive river
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this time definitely not no

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oh wait

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💀

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💀 💀 💀

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this is so embarrassing

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please just like

tidal mulch
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Dude

restive river
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kick me out forever

tidal mulch
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No way

restive river
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okay like

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its meant to be

tidal mulch
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Lmao

arctic field
tidal mulch
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I'm actually happy I found a solution to an incorrect fe

restive river
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for $\m gx = \m {f^{-1}} x$: [
\m fx = \f1x \m fx -12\m gx
]

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calm frigate
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ig i m wrong but isnt it f(x)=12z/(1-x) @tidal mulch

restive river
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THATS DEFINITELY IT

tidal mulch
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Usually if you fuck up an Fe its just unsolvable

arctic field
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its time for you to be exiled

restive river
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100

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%

tidal mulch
calm frigate
tidal mulch
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Whats the chance a messed up fe has an actual solution

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Thats pretty rare

restive river
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They should make a !lex factoid which is "Please make sure u latex'd your question correctly"

tidal mulch
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That too a solution like 1/13x

restive river
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goddamn it why do i fuck it up everytime xd

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ill say @tidal mulch

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f(x) has a fixed point at 1/13

arctic field
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well you see

restive river
arctic field
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your original question

tidal mulch
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Yeah

arctic field
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didnt match up kekehands

restive river
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yeah because i was working with what i had above

arctic field
restive river
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snow pls call me out everytime i post sus latex q's

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thank u very much

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actually

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let me reopen with a consistent question

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because like

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Not sure if more general math questions are allowed here. If not, just let me know and I can delete it.

I've heard of Euclidean Geometry and I've also heard of Non-Euclidean Geometry.

I don't exactly know what studying them looks like.

Is there a specific subject I'd look into if I was interested in non-euclidean geometry? Are there actual courses on this in undergrad? What level is it (meaning, what are the prereqs)? Does this have anything to do with differential geometry?

I'm very interested in looking at non-euclidean geometry because it just sounds so fun.

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Non-euclidian geometry is any sort of geometry that isn't done on the typical n-dimensional plane (usually 2- or 3-dimnsional)

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Common forms are hyperbolic and spherical geometry

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If you want to look into it to see some of the differences, try playing around with spherical geometry (It'll be pretty easy to follow along because a lot of good examples are based on the Earth being an approximate sphere)

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Okay, thanks! I appreciate it 🙂

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how do I express XOR using only NOT and AND?

frozen aurora
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try looking at the truth table

fallow sparrow
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yeah thats what I've started out with

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0
1
1
0

frozen aurora
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what does xor stand for?

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or like, mean

fallow sparrow
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exclusive or

frozen aurora
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mhm

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can you state the condition for xor in english?

fallow sparrow
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only true when both inputs are different

frozen aurora
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good, we are getting closer

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what does it mean for inputs (let's say x and y) to be different?

fallow sparrow
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the inputs are X and NOT X?

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or Y and NOT Y

frozen aurora
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yep

frozen aurora
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you are almost there

fallow sparrow
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XOR = (X AND NOT X) OR (Y AND NOT Y)

frozen aurora
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X AND NOT X is not valid

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because that is always false

fallow sparrow
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false u mean?

frozen aurora
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oh

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yes

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maybe you meant x AND NOT y?

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check the truth table for x AND NOT y

fallow sparrow
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ahh

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that seems to give the same output as XOR

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I think

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wait

frozen aurora
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not yet

fallow sparrow
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it also needs to be true when X is FALSE and Y is TRUE

frozen aurora
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yes

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so instead of x AND NOT y, the inputs should be reversed

fallow sparrow
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X AND NOT Y OR Y AND NOT X?

frozen aurora
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yes

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but you can't use OR according to the task

fallow sparrow
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yeah

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hmm

frozen aurora
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need a hint?

fallow sparrow
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yes pls

frozen aurora
fallow sparrow
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uhh

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I thought you need a NOT outside everything to use De Morgans

frozen aurora
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well

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why not put NOT NOT (everything we have)?

fallow sparrow
frozen aurora
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let me check

frozen aurora
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sorry for late reply, my internet completely stopped working for a moment

fallow sparrow
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no worries bro

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thanks a lot ❤️

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can someone help me with my homework?

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I did this, but with 0,0

i got fxx = 0 fyy = 0 (fxy)^2 = 0

so D = 0

which is inconclusive, how does (0,0) give the absolute minimum

alpine forge
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It is a saddle point as I see here

lusty sapphire
alpine forge
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the domain is a circle

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but since >= 0 we have a semi circle

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lol

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so hm

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it's going down though?

lusty sapphire
alpine forge
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right

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alright let me check what that looks like

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you're right

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sadde point is the lowest

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man how am i supposed to visualise that

lusty sapphire
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I don't

alpine forge
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uh

lusty sapphire
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Just find the extreme points, evaluate those, then parametrize f along the boundaries of the domain and find those extreme points

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It's a tedious process

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you're right about that

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thanks for the help

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I don't even know where to start

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,rccw

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If $\log_9(5) = x$ and $\log_{27}(2) = y$, express $\log_3(100)$ in terms of $x$ and $y$.

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AnnGhost

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(transcribing the problem for my own convenience.)

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d

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If I want to calculate the growth of an account for investment, should I use the formula A=p(1+r/n)^nt?

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Villiam

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Or this?

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$P(1 + r)^n$

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Villiam

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pseudo basin
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did you write those values on purpose?

winter steppe
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No

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At first I wrote 7.365 and 7.375

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And I tried to remove the 0.005s’ still incorrect

pseudo basin
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you want to round to 7.36 instead

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so shift that down by 0.01 lol

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