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jolly bluff
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yup

jolly bluff
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damn

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thanks so much I get it

restive river
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ok bro

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np

jolly bluff
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and a and t are both 3?

restive river
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yuo

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right

jolly bluff
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sheeeesh

restive river
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itll be -30 i guess?

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rigjht?

jolly bluff
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nah not -30

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that doens tsound right

restive river
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5*6?

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whats that?

jolly bluff
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-29.4

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its round to nearest decimal

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you were basically right tho

restive river
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u gotta say it in nearest int'

jolly bluff
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for me it says nearest decimal

restive river
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oh

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then u r correct

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I was working on proof for the prompt
Prove that a set of n (different) elements has exactly 2^n (different) subsets.
I was looking for feedback on my proof.
I did a proof by weak induction

restive river
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The proof seems alright

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Help

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restive river
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Having trouble analyzing a probably a statically indeterminate continuously supported beam. Below is the diagram and the data. I am stuck with even trying to resolve for and finding the reaction forces. Can someone walk me through on how to tackle this question?

A continuous beam of length 10 m is supported by three supports. The distances between the
supports are as follows:
• The left support is located at the left end of the beam.
• The distance between the left support and the middle support is 4 m.
• The distance between the middle support and the right support is 6 m.

The beam is subjected to the following loads:
• A point load of 15 kN at a distance of 2 m from the left support.
• A uniformly distributed load of 6 kN/m between the left support and the middle support.
• A triangular load that starts from the middle support and increases uniformly to 10 kN at the
right support.

The left support is a roller support, the middle support is also a roller support and the right support is a fixed support.

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pale bolt
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also need to translate because we can't read (Thai??) foreign language

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grizzled snow
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Its Georgian

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@pale bolt Let's say A is the set of odd natural numbers, B is the set of even natural numbers, which entries are correct?

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idle tinsel
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Rewrite cosh 6x + sinh 6x in terms of exponentials

plush knot
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thonk I'd try with the exponential definitions in this case

idle tinsel
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How would I do that?

plush knot
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sinh(x) = (e^x - e^(-x)) / 2
cosh(x) = (e^x + e^(-x) / 2
Do they look familiar?

idle tinsel
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oh yeah

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so
$\frac{e^{6x} - e^{-6x}}{2} + \frac{e^{6x} + e^{-6x}}{2}$

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plush knot
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Yup that's it

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Some things cancel out very nicely

idle tinsel
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mm I got
$\frac{2e^{6x}}{2}$ after simplifying

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idle tinsel
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but wasn't right

plush knot
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I think that's right, you still can simplify the 2s though

idle tinsel
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oh wait

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yeah lol

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If you have the integral sin^n(x)cos^m(x)dx and n and m are both odd, do you use the pythagorean identity or the half-angle formula?

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Wait I wrote that wrong

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I misunderstood something sorry

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astral niche
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how can you formalize that a matrix is strictly better than another one?

stone stump
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well what do you mean with "better"

astral niche
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it have greater numbers in it

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I have to model it in terms of utility

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so the higher the value the higher the utility

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so the better

stone stump
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well then you can say that $A\geq B$ if and only if $a_{i,j}\geq b_{i,j}$ for all $i,j$

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Denascite

astral niche
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easy

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makes super sense thanks

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viral basin
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is there a way to re-write this?

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velvet onyx
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lol

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jaunty needle
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What percent pf men are between 64 and 66.5 inches tall

jaunty needle
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This is a density curve question where i have to use 68, 95, and 99.7 to figure out the answer

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Mean is 69 and std.dev. Is 2.5

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Nvm i got it

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Lol

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untold notch
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Can someone tell me is that true or false

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pine rock
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,rccw

untold notch
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Et is and

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Ou is or

pine rock
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wops

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seems good

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restive river
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I’m stuck on this question
I don’t know what formula to use, I have the formulas but I never know when to use which one, and I keep getting the wrong answers according to the textbook

restive river
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so you have the sum of two compounding accounts adding up to 10,000

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how far have you gotten? if you need formula help I assume you know the logic of what to do?

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I have these formulas

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But I never know which one to use

restive river
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the compound interest one

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Am I right to do A = P(1 + r/n)^nt

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Okay

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A = 0(1 + 0.041/52)^52(2)

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I don’t know what the principal would be

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I assume 0

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if they started with $0 they'd compound to $0 forever KEK

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Uhh

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they started with $50

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Okay

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waiittt

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I just saw the regular payments one

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You'd need that for the first part, I believe

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they're regularly depositing $50, not just once

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10,000 = 50(52)/0.041 ((1 + 0.041/52)^52(2) -1)

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Wait

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Is it fv = or 10,000 =

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FV =, you want to know how much they make themselves, so the parents can help with the rest

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Okay

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,w 50(52)/0.041 ((1 + 0.041/52)^52(2) -1)

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restive river
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wrong formatting, hmm

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Put it to the power of 104

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,w ((50 * 52)/0.041)( ( 1 + 0.041/52)^(52 * 2) - 1)

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i think

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restive river
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I got the same thing

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anyway 10k - that is what the parents have to contribute

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,w 10,000 - (((50 * 52)/0.041)( ( 1 + 0.041/52)^(52 * 2) - 1))

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restive river
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Does the second part of the question not matter

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it does

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this remaining 4,583 is for the second part

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the parents have to ultimately have raised this much, so what starting amount do they stick in their account so the interest gets it up to 4.5k after 2 years

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that's p2

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Oh okay

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Is that A = P(1 + r/n)^nt

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The answer should be $4078.92 but I got $4078.85

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near stone
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how would you solve for 11.b? do you need to look at x-value or y-value?

livid carbon
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horizontal transformation

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f(x+h) means f(x) shifted +h units to the left

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While f(x)+k is vertical transformation of f(x)

near stone
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,tex .transformation rules

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Akira 🍉

quasi wasp
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Try always remember that if its in the brackets then it affects the x values and if its outside then it affects the y-values. And remember, when its inside the bracket, it will do the opposite of what you think, so +2 would move it -2 on the graph

near stone
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so it's a y value?

quasi wasp
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What do you mean?

olive condor
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hi

near stone
olive condor
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f(x+2) is f(x) except shifted 2

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horizontally

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in the left direction

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so draw the function shifted left

near stone
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oh i get it now

olive condor
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yup

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ur welkies

quasi wasp
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Yeah, its opposite of what you would think

near stone
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so that would be +2?

quasi wasp
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+2 actually does -2 on the graph

olive condor
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makes sense to me

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y = x

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right

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want to shift it up?

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y - 1 = x

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shift it right

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y - 1 = x - 1

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ppl say its confusing cuz shifting up is y = x + 1

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move the 1, and it makes sense

quasi wasp
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I wish i could think like you in that, I just hard code the rule that its opposite in my brain and call it a day

olive condor
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lol

near stone
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im not sure whats the number cuz my textbook says it's -2

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and for 11.a it's 5

olive condor
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did u read the chapter

near stone
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yes I did but how they get the 5 from

olive condor
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where r u seeing 5..?

quasi wasp
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I think probably the answer page I imagine, can’t see why it would be 5 though if its asking you to plot the transformations

near stone
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was checking the answer for the previous question

quasi wasp
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Phahaha

near stone
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i think i got it now

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thank you both of you

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rigid rain
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How do i do an epsilon delta proof for a one sided limit?

paper latch
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it would be $0 < x-3 < \delta$

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Frog_Man

paper latch
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as opposed to for a 2 sided limit, when it is $0 < |x-3| < \delta$

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I need help calculating these bills:

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silver hedge
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  1. -2^2-4x-1x15
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  1. 6^2-4x1x-5
  2. -6^2-4x1x-9
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weak cove
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can you show us a picture of the question?

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pine rock
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that's not the first time he asks, he needs to calculate the value of the expression (x is multiply)

silver hedge
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I don't know how to do that

pine rock
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upon asking about exponents and addition demands immidiate answer

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silver hedge
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I need a prompt answer

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sweet thorn
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Not sure what to do next or where I might have gone wrong..

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nova ibex
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I think you messed up

cosmic pier
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Do you know what the reduction formula for the integral of sec^n (x) is?

sweet thorn
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I do not, although I have glanced at it.

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I think I figured it out

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We are supposed to set int(sec^3x) to H and add to both sides

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or essentially just add to both sides

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to solve for the derivative of int(sec^3x), I remember doing something similar earlier in the class so I'll go with that lol

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calm belfry
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i know you set denominator to 0

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calm belfry
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x^2-x-12=0

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but what do i do with the x^2

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x^2=x+12

wooden wraith
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nah keep one side equal to 0

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It's a quadratic. You can factor it (if possible) or use the quadratic formula or complete the square

sleek cargo
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yeah its possible

wooden wraith
sleek cargo
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i prefer rooting

wooden wraith
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i said if possible because in general it's not always

sleek cargo
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this one is right

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use formula: b^2 - 4 x a x c
b = 1
a = 1
c = -12

calm belfry
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-47

sleek cargo
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no 1 - (-48)

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= 49, then find the root

calm belfry
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7?

sleek cargo
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yes

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now x1 = b-7/2

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x2 = b+7/2

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you will have your asnwer)

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@calm belfry what did you get?

calm belfry
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-5/2 & 9/2

sleek cargo
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b is 1

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in your case

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calm belfry
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why negative b

sleek cargo
wooden wraith
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yes negative, the quad formula is (-b +/- D)/2a

calm belfry
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-3 & 4

sleek cargo
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not always

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wait

wooden wraith
sleek cargo
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if b come negative

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in x it will be positive

wooden wraith
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sleek cargo
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no answer will be different

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if b is negative

wooden wraith
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???

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$x = \frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2 - 4ac}}{2a}$

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tatpoj

wooden wraith
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if b is negative, then the first term, -b is positive. you don't need to make an exception

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or you can just factor it and solve and get -3 and 4 that way as well

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oh what? b in this case was -1, why did you tell her it's 1?

sleek cargo
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different asnwer

wooden wraith
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but b is -1

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the quadratic was x^2 - x - 12

sleek cargo
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so it will +1

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when you find x

wooden wraith
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ask;ugbaklvanbskvnawskevanj

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right

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b = -1

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-b = 1

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(1 + 7)/2 and (1 - 7)/2

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is this just a different convention in some parts of the world?

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because the coefficient b is -1

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I'm very confused about what you're saying

sleek cargo
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since when 6/2 is -3

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1 here comes positive bruh

wooden wraith
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my bad you're right I typed that line wrong

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-b is 1

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not -1

sleek cargo
wooden wraith
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but

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that's what I've been saying this whole time

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b is -1

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-b is 1

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I just mistyped it in that one line

sleek cargo
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nvm im bad at teaching

calm belfry
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i did 1-7/2 and 1+7/2

sleek cargo
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yeah you got it right

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-3 and 4

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you can close

calm belfry
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im supposed

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to plot it

sleek cargo
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one of it in negative side

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and one in positive

wooden wraith
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you have vertical asymptotes at x=-3 and x=4

calm belfry
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WAIT

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OOPS

wooden wraith
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two vertical lines

sleek cargo
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wrong dots

calm belfry
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had to redo b is now negative

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-4 3?

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misty quest
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Hello I need some help ik the answer is 735 but like just a bit confused on the set up

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total students = x
students who do not eat at servo but eats at ike = (1/3-1/5)x
students who do not eat at ike but eats at servo = (2/7-1/5)x
students who do not eat at both ike and servo = (1/5)x
students who eat at both ike and servo = (427)

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Am I distributing the X?

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misty quest
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One be servos and the other be Ike’s?

timber pebble
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yea

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and then let X be the total

misty quest
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Hmmm but idk what I’d put on each side

timber pebble
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i mean the picture as in like idea of what you can say

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heres my drawing

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My thought is: you have 4 regions, and everyone fits into exactly one of these categories. So, if you add up all four regions, you should have everyone, only once, right?

misty quest
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Yeah

timber pebble
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okay

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we have a picture, try making an equation from these

timber pebble
misty quest
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Can I subtract one from the 2/7 which would give me the amount that eats at ikes?

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,w solve 427+2/7 x + 1/3 x + 1/5 x = x

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what

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hmm

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heres the other thought

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,w solve 1/3 x + 2/7 x + 427 = x + 1/5 x

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@misty quest

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got it

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so they are talking about more general regions

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doesnt eat at ikes doesnt mean only eats at Servo

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it means the entire green region here

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so if you add up the red, the green, and the yellow, you get the entire region

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but with a problem

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you've counted the purple region twice

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(because both green and red cover that region)

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doing it this way gets you the correct answer

misty quest
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But why am I setting it equal to x + 1/5

timber pebble
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you can think of it the other way

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red + green + yellow gets you N right

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but youre overcounting

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red and green overlap

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specifically, they overlap in the purple, which is being counted twice

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so red + green + yellow - purple

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this accounts for the double counting with red+green

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so red + green + yellow - purple = N

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or red + green + yellow = purple + N

misty quest
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Ohh the 1/5 isn’t a new group but just part of the other group

timber pebble
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well like

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green is the people that eat only at Servo, plus the people who eat at neither

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and red is the people that eat only at Ike's, plus the people that eat at neither

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@misty quest what you think

misty quest
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Oh wait I think I get it now so like the 1/5 is the group that doesn’t eat at either so I just have to subtract it?

timber pebble
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this is everyone who doesnt eat at Servos

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do you see how its every where except for inside the S circle?

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and here's the other way

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this is everyone that doesn't eat at Ike's

misty quest
# timber pebble

Yes but wouldn’t it be both colored since they don’t eat at both?

timber pebble
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the very outside?

misty quest
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The red for the circles

timber pebble
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So, theres 2 possibilities

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they dont eat at servos, but they do eat at Ike's

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or, they don't eat at either

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Oh okay I thought red was the 1/5 that doesn’t eat at both

timber pebble
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no

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The red is people that dont eat at Servo's

timber pebble
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do you see why?

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this is the crux

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if you take the group of everyone who doesn't own a cat

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it includes people who only own a dog

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and people who dont have a cat or a dog

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do you see what I mean?

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"Don't eat at Servo's" is two groups

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if you dont get what i mean thats fine, this is the fundamental piece of the problem

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once you get this you will get the whole thing I think

misty quest
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The 2 groups are the 1/5 and the 1/3 right

timber pebble
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hmm i think the 1/3 and the 2/7

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but the exact amounts dont matter

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you dont need to know these until the very end

misty quest
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Okay

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I just understand why I’m subtracting 1/5

timber pebble
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yea, if you understand that, thats the whole thing

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because you count it twice

misty quest
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Am I counting it twice since it’s included in the 1/3 and the 2/7

timber pebble
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right

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Because if you are a person who doesn't eat at Ike's or Servo's

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You don't eat at Servo's

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and You don't eat at Ike's

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you answer yes to both of those questions

misty quest
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Ohhh that makes sense now

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Couldn’t I also subtract the 1/5 from the 1/3 and 2/7 in the beginning

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And then add the 1/5?

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hmm I guess

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Okay I get it now thank you so much

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hello

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my professor solved this questoin in a way i dont understand can someone explain to me why he doing it like this

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this is the question

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<@&286206848099549185>

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yea

frail current
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its just this question everytime i ask it no one responds maybe its just diffculte or something

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,rotate

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So... I'm still taking Calc III so I don't understand it fully, but I'm learning this stuff rn so I might be able to help a bit

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x+1 = 2-y = z-1

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yo same

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this is calc 3

frail current
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frail current
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thats right

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and he got a vector u = <1,-1,1>

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just move t to the other side and you she get this vector

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and the point is (-1,2,-1)

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right?

frail current
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i dont know about the other point

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yea

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i dont think he uses it

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this is my first question why is it BA othognal

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not AB

cerulean crater
# frail current

BA is the vector from point B to A, vector AB moves in the opposite direction (from A to B rather than B to A)

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I think you can use either, but your teacher might've chosen BA bc it gives easier numbers to work with

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ah ok

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idk if you can read this

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but i get everything except for the last

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part

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how did he get this

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never mind talking to you right no

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w

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i see how he did it

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so

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how is that the answer though

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AB = <0, 1, 1>

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I feel like its still missing something

cerulean crater
# woven radish

Yeah, if the dot product of two vectors is zero, then it's perpendicular.
The vector we found from the parametric equations was <1,-1,1> I think
The dot product of that with the AB vector is 0, which means they're perpendicular

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oooh ok

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thank you very much man

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did u know u can try plotting these points online to get a visual of how they look

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np, good luck with calc III

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any idea how to start this

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x = 7sinh(u)

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sorry but what does that do

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is this a correct way to solve this limit?

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Why did 2log(x) turn into 2 though?

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# nocturne relic

maybe try rewriting this limit: $\lim_{x\to0}\frac{x^2}{e^{-\frac{1}{x}}}$

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MrFancy

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Or argue with the lim u->infinity (exp u)/u^2 if you are defining exp over the infinite series and want to use as less fancy maths as possible (that is how we introduced it in analysis 1)

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Or write 2logx + 1/x as (2xlog(x) + 1)/x

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A lot of l'hospital enjoyers urs

hybrid snow
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Lospital lovers

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Wait I'm blind

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actually this might be DNE

hybrid snow
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It does exist, I graphed it

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It's 0+

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ohhh

hybrid snow
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I mean depends on your definition of DNE

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gotchu I'm blind kekw

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Like diverge?

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!show

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Rewrite as $I =\int\left(\operatorname{cosec}^2 x-2005\right) \sec ^{2005} x d x = \int \operatorname{cosec}^2 x \sec ^{2005} x d x-\int 2005 \sec ^{2005} x d x$ then apply integral by part.

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after many tries, i tried to get right answer but i cant. so do someone have an idea how to solve that?

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well () is just a fancy way of writing multiplication

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but i got diffent than this:

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show every step

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sorry my net isnt very good

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supple knot
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mistake here

plucky wadi
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You're only supposed to multiply x with 5+x

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oh

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Yeah

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Can someone help with question 8?

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for example, what would I put for part a?

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During the "well temperament", the sound frequencies between $440$ Hz and $880$ Hz are divided by $11$ nuances (sounds) in such a way that two always have the same ratio. Determine this ratio.

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We have that $\frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} = k$, so $a_{n+1} = k \cdot a_n$. This means that [a_{11} = k \cdot a_{10} = \cdots = k^{11} \cdot a_0 = k^{11} \cdot 440 = 880,] so $k = \sqrt[11] 2$.

topaz axle
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they mean like, not including either

deep vortex
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That'd mean that we have to start with a_12

topaz axle
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in reality, there's 11 "between them", not including either

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but without knowing that, I don't think it's clear

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topaz axle
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yeah

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it's not contradictory

deep vortex
topaz axle
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like it's phrased in a way where you can't tell if it's supposed to be 10 or 12; but 12 is one of the options (and 11 is not)

deep vortex
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Ah, you mean you can't know if there is a sound at 440Hz and then at 880Hz, the ends

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In that case, there would be 9 in between

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so 10 frequencies

topaz axle
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yes

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no

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let me make an example

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like if it said "there's 3 sounds between 10 and 160"
then it would make sense if it means
10, 20, 40, 80, 160: ratio = 2
and
10,40,160: ratio = 4

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topaz axle
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what do you mean

deep vortex
topaz axle
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idk, sorry

deep vortex
# deep vortex

Well, 12 should really be the right answer.
We can imagine a big stripe (sound), and that gets divided by 11 cuts (sounds).
The individual cut pieces are now the sound frequencies, and we'll have 12 of them

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topaz axle
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no, in both cases i'm thinking of frequencies, not spans

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there is 12 spans, 13 total frequencies, 11 "betweens"

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my main point is that it's phrased badly

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deep vortex
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The spans between the vertical lines?

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There would be 12 of them, yes, there are 11 vertical lines

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Why 13 total frequencies?

topaz axle
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440, ... 880 is 13

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... is 11

deep vortex
# topaz axle 440, ... 880 is 13

440, ..., 880 denote the segments between the vertical lines in the above picture.
So I think there should be 12 of them?
(and so ... is 10)

topaz axle
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why would they be segments

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they are definitely vertical lines

deep vortex
# topaz axle 440, ... 880 is 13

Oh. You mean that after putting the 11 sounds/nuances, the ends will count as additional 2, so we'll have 13 for 440, ..., 880

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yeah, i think that makes sense

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the frequencies "contain" 11 points, and don't include the ends

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topaz axle
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alternatively they include the ends, so there's 11 frequencies, and 10 spans

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so you choose between 10th root and 12th root

deep vortex
topaz axle
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i don't know the word nuance

deep vortex
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the vertical lines

deep vortex
deep vortex
# topaz axle there is 12 spans, 13 total frequencies, 11 "betweens"

Yes, you mean sounds with betweens.
Thank you

Though I think between two of these sounds, the same frequency will play so it's worded a bit badly if we say frequencies to the sounds.

The frequencies between 440Hz and 880Hz are divided by 11 sounds, and those 12 parts that come to be have the same frequency.
(or of course, if two of the 11 sounds are at the ends, then there will be 10 parts that have the same frequency)

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hello, i need help with this permutation.
(1 2 3
2 3 1 )

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i wrote the following:
sigma I = ( 12 ) * sigma = (1 2 3) * ( 1 2 3 )= ( 1 2 3 )
( 2 2 1 ) ( 2 3 1 ) ( 2 1 2 )

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how is f(x) and g(x) factored out the limit

scarlet sequoia
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firstly it has been splited

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and then factored

zenith jacinth
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g(x) doesnt depend of h

shell quest
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why

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ok its above the h

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idk i dont get it

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can you write g(x) in terms of h ?

shell quest
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meaning

zenith jacinth
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also the limit of a product of function is the product of each limit

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since g doesnt depend of h, lim g(x) is still g(x)

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the fractions always mess me up

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how would I solve this?

boreal karma
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can you do the first derivative with the fraction to start?

native briar
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no;-;

mystic scarab
# native briar

Well, you shouldn't be scared of fractions if you're doing calculus😅

native briar
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im behind

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boreal karma
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okay lets ignore the fraction then and pretend its not there. whats the derivative of just x^3?

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3x^2?

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yep now multiply that by the fraction

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_> wat

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howw??

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how do you multiply 5/6 by 3

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to start

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do you write 3 as 3/1

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and do 5/6 • 3/1?

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dont even have to do that

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but you can if that makes it easier

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you can just do it as 15/6

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how would you do it?

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bruh how

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basically 5/6 + 5/6 + 5/6 is = 5/6 * 3

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I see

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so

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is it

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15/6x^2/6?

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sorry I typed too fast

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no so x^2 can be done the same way that the 3 was done

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just put it into the numerator

native briar
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??

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wait what

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15x^2/6

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is this for the second derivative?

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this is just first

native briar
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??

boreal karma
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where did i lose you

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you understood the 3*5/6 right?

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Think I lost myself

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yea

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now you still have to do the x^2 * the 15/6 we found earlier

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why?

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wasn’t it x^3?

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the first derivative you found of just x^3 was 3x^2

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all of that has to be multiplied by the 5/6

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we only did the 3 so far and not the x^2

native briar
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????

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i was breaking it into steps for you, basically you can do each part one at a time but i think i confused you

native briar
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oh

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so you dealt with the fraction and the 3 that you found

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you just need to multiply that 15/6 that we got by the remaining x^2

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so it’s 3 from the 3x^2?

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and now x^2?

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the 3 comes from that yes

native briar
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so is it 15/6x^2?

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is x^2 outside of the fraction?

native briar
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is it?

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(15/6) x^2 or 15/(6x^2)

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idk which way you mean

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then yes

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the better way to write that is 15x^2 /6 though

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to avoid confusion

native briar
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oh ok

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so then what would that be

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so thats the first derivative

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now we do it again

quaint cove
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You can simplify it though

native briar
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Wait

boreal karma
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yes we can simplify by a factor of 3 here if you want

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Would be easier to find the second derivative if you simplify it

native briar
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You mean it’s written like this

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yes

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Okie

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or like this

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eitherway should be acceptable

native briar
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Ok

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but as another mentioned we can simplify 15/6 to a simpler fraction then we can derivate again

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??

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what can it be simplified as

boreal karma
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15 and 6 are both divisible by 3

native briar
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5/2?

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yep

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good job

native briar
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Tyty

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so can it be written as 5(x^2)/2?

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yep! perfect

native briar
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aye

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now we derivate again

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you can do it the exact same steps we did before

native briar
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So the derivative of x^2?

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which is 2x

boreal karma
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yep

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and then what did we do

native briar
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(2)(5/2)?

boreal karma
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yep

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so what is that answer

native briar
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10/2

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so

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5?

boreal karma
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yep

native briar
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5x?

boreal karma
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yes

native briar
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Aye

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Thx

quaint cove
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Good job

boreal karma
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all you great work

native briar
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I have another question that’s similar

boreal karma
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okay

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this one is a bit more tricky but thats fine

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I might find it helpful to rerwite the problem

native briar
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;-;

boreal karma
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can you think of any way to get rid of the pesky x in the denominator?

native briar
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do I write it is x^4/x^2 - 3/x^2?

boreal karma
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  • not - but yes I would start there
native briar
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oh ok

boreal karma
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then I would simplify the first fraction to just x^2 and the second one I would write as 3x^-2

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can you follow that?

native briar
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How?

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wym simplify ?

boreal karma
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so

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x^4 = x^2 * x^2 would you agree?

native briar
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yea

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Oh I see

boreal karma
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and then the second term i just took x^2 out from the denominator and changed it to x^-2

native briar
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wait no

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??

boreal karma
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do you know that 1/x = x^-1

native briar
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Yea

boreal karma
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so in this case 3/x^2 = 3x^-2

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its the same rule

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you can move it up but you gotta make the power negative

native briar
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I get it yea

boreal karma
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okay so we have x^2 + 3x^-2

native briar
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So now is it just

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Yea

boreal karma
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negative 2 power on the second term sorry

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i keep mistyping

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anyways, now we take the second derivatives. we can do one term at a time which do you want to start with

native briar
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So do we differentiate now ?

boreal karma
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yep

native briar
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wait was that all to get the 1st derivative ?

boreal karma
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nope

native briar
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Oh ok

boreal karma
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we havent done anything yet

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just rewrote the problem

native briar
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Yes ok

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ok

boreal karma
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ok so do you want to start by derivating x^2 or 3x^-2

native briar
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I did both

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I got

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2x-6x^-3

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as the first derivative

boreal karma
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perfect

native briar
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I got

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2+18x^-4

boreal karma
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perfect again

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great job

native briar
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I think I have to rewrite it

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would it be

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Since it’s a negative exponent

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2+18/x4?

boreal karma
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yep

native briar
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aye thanks

boreal karma
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all you

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good work

native briar
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Nah

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All u

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can you help me with these?

boreal karma
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sure

native briar
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hold on it’s 2

boreal karma
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do you understand what its asking

native briar
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Nah

boreal karma
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so typically y' is the first derivative

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what would you guess y'' is

native briar
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wait which question are we doing first

boreal karma
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we can do whatever one you want to do

native briar
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can we do 21 first

boreal karma
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ofcourse

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so first what is the question asking you to do

native briar
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is it asking to find y’’

boreal karma
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yep but what does that mean

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i gave you a hint earlier that y' is normally the first derivative

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so then what would y'' be

native briar
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So

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Second derivative

boreal karma
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yep exactly

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so the problem is just asking whats the second derivative of -4cosx

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do you know what the derivative of cosx is?

native briar
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No

boreal karma
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hmmmm

native briar
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is it -sinx?

boreal karma
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im not sure how to teach it by proofing it but the derivative of cosx is -sinx

native briar
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I read up on it before

boreal karma
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so then the first derivative would be what

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of -4cosx

native briar
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not sure

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would it be

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4sin(x)?

boreal karma
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yes thats perfect

native briar
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fr?

boreal karma
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yep

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no need to overthink it (:

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so then now, do you know the derivative of sinx?

native briar
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hmm

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cosx?

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so it’s (4)cos(x) ?

boreal karma
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yep perfect there

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good work

native briar
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so for the other question

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is it y’’ = -4cosx

boreal karma
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the first question is to find y'' for y= 4sinx correct?

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that would not be the answer

native briar
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no?

boreal karma
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you made a mistake somewhere

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the first derivative will have cos in it

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so the second derivative must have sin it

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without doing any math i know that

native briar
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yea

boreal karma
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the first derivative would be 4cosx

native briar
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yea

boreal karma
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that would be y'= 4cosx

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not y''

native briar
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I’m doing question 20

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not 21

boreal karma
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yeah i know

native briar
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so it’s 4 sin x

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and the derivative of sinx is cosx

boreal karma
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oop yep

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i made a mistake my fault

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first derivative would be 4cosx

native briar
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it’s ok so would it be

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4 cos x

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yea

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but the derivative of cos x is -sinx

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so is the answer -4sinx?

boreal karma
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yep

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that looks good

native briar
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What about this one

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and thx btw

boreal karma
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okay this one is similar to the last one but with one extra step basically

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you can change theta (the weird o thing) to x btw if you want so its more in line with the other problems we've been doing

native briar
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ok

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so it r = 16 - x^8 cos x

boreal karma
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yeah that looks good

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okay so we can do the derivative of 16 to start

native briar
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it’s 0 right

boreal karma
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yep

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now we tackle the actual problem

native briar
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the second one is -8x^7

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and the third is -sinx

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right ?

boreal karma
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well no, we have to use the product rule because we have -x^8 * cosx

native briar
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Ah

boreal karma
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so its just one term

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so do you know the product rule for derivatives?

native briar
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no

boreal karma
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basically its (f x g)' = (f' x g) + (f x g')

native briar
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kk

boreal karma
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so the derivative of x^8 times cosx plus the derivative of cosx times x^8

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ok i wrote it properly now sorry about that

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so do you think you're able to do that?

native briar
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wait so