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lament turtle
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Pr(E&~A&T)= Pr(E&T) - Pr(E&T&A) => Pr(E&~A&T) + Pr(E&T&A) = Pr(E&T)

dim halo
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ah

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so here's where im at

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i know how Pr(P)=1-Pr(~P) works

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are we going from

Pr(P)=1-Pr(~P)

to

Pr(E&~A&T)= Pr(E&T) - Pr(E&T&A)

?

lament turtle
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Not as a formal derivation, but do you see the conceptual link?

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Sort of let E & T become your "total" space

dim halo
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no

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oh

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if E&T is the total probability space

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then yes

lament turtle
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Yup, but when it's the total probability space, Pr(E & T) is 1. But to change it back you can imagine adding more to your total probability space

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Hm maybe numbers would help more

dim halo
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but is there any formal derivation showing Pr(E&~A&T)= Pr(E&T) - Pr(E&T&A)

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or does this equation assume a certain probability space

lament turtle
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It doesn't assume a probability space, but to prove it you need to step back from probabilities and think about sets instead

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Oh wait might actually just be an axiom kek

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point 3 here

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And we know Pr(E&T) = Pr((E&T&A) or (E&T&~A)) = Pr(E&T&A) + Pr(E&T&~A), noting that E&T&A and E&T&~A are mutually exclusive

dim halo
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oh yeah now u connect it all

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there's one other thing here

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the RHS part. theyre going from

RHS = [Pr(A&T)/Pr(T) x Pr(E&A&T)/Pr(A&T)] + [Pr(~A&T)/Pr(T) x Pr(E&~A&T)/Pr(~A&T)]

to

= [Pr(E&A&T) + Pr(E&~A&T)] / Pr(T)

not following this

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(im assuming with the [] brackets, it's not explicitly stated tho)

lament turtle
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,, \frac{Pr(A&T)}{Pr(T)} \times \frac{Pr(E&A&T)}{Pr(A&T)} + \frac{Pr(\neg A&T)}{Pr(T)} \times \frac{Pr(E&\neg A&T)}{Pr(\neg A&T)}

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Ah heck

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See how in the first fraction the Pr(A&T) cancels with the Pr(A&T) in the second fraction?

dim halo
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ah i follow

woven radishBOT
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ToxicFantasies

dim halo
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i shouldve just written it visually like this lol

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there's 1 other thign

lament turtle
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come learn latex :)

lament turtle
dim halo
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Pr(E|T) = Pr(E&T) / Pr(T)

Pr(E&T) = Pr(E&T&A) + Pr(E&T&~A)

= [Pr(E&T&A) + Pr(E&T&~A)] / Pr(T)

= [Pr(A&T)/Pr(T) x Pr(E&A&T)/Pr(A&T)] + [Pr(~A&T)/Pr(T) x Pr(E&~A&T)/Pr(~A&T)]

so: Pr(E|T) = [Pr(A|T) x Pr(E|T&A)] + [Pr(¬A|T) x Pr(E|T&¬A)]

is this all formally correct

lament turtle
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Yup. Is there a need to go from LHS to RHS when you already have RHS to LHS though?

dim halo
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i didnt get the acrynoyms

lament turtle
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RHS = Right hand side
LHS = Left hand side

dim halo
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ah

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it's unnessary

lament turtle
dim halo
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yeah adding Pr(E|T) reminds me what it's equal too

lament turtle
dim halo
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isnt that inconsistent tho?

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oh nvm

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can u elaborate the potential issue?

lament turtle
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When either are zero you're dividing by zero in the third line

dim halo
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u cant cancel out the zeros?

lament turtle
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No

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0/1 * 5/0 is still undefined

lament turtle
dim halo
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so what would the cavet be in this case, just Pr(A&T) =! 0 and Pr(~A&T) =! 0?

lament turtle
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Yeah, Pr(T) =! 0 as well now that I think about it

dim halo
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i wonder if those caveats are guaranteed by the caveats of the equations on pervious lines

lament turtle
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Pr(T) =! 0 by the first line I guess

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The rest... no idea

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You could most likely still show your final equation if either are zero though, just comes to how much is being expected

dim halo
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oh it's the division & multiplication properties of equality that guarantee that

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when u introduce Pr(A&T) & Pr(~A&T) via dividing both sides or multiplying both sides, it's required they're not 0

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in any case, that's all

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i appreciate the help & clarification

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restive river
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Dividing exponents with no common base:

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restive river
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No idea how to go about doing this. Please help

warped relic
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You can factorize 18 and 12

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And you use the exponents properties

restive river
warped relic
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Yep

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Factors of both

restive river
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GCF = 6

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so id use that?

warped relic
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Yes

restive river
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then since its the same base id just add 7 + -3

warped relic
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Yep

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You're pretty much done here

restive river
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Wait theres one more thing

warped relic
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Oo

restive river
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so once getting 4

warped relic
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Wait no

restive river
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?

warped relic
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12 and 18 do have 6s in them

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But you don't break them up like that

restive river
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how would i then

warped relic
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12 = 2 • 6

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18 = 3 • 6

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Since 12 is divided by 18

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2 • 6 / 3 • 6

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Cross out the 6

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And you're left with 2 / 3

restive river
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oh

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so 2 would go on the numerator and 3 would go on the denominator

warped relic
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Yep

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It's like this hol on

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$$(\frac{12}{18}) =( \frac{2 \cdot 6}{3 \cdot 6} )=( \frac{2}{3} \cdot \frac{6}{6} )=( \frac{2}{3} \cdot 1 )=( \frac{2}{3})$$

restive river
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wait why would you do that

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i get why 2 would go on the numerator and 3 would go on the denominator

warped relic
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Simplifying

restive river
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but not why 1 = 2/3

warped relic
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Wait hold on

restive river
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this is where im sitting at rn

woven radishBOT
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VulcanOne

warped relic
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You just apply the same base rule for y

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7 -(-3)

restive river
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which is 10

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but i see in the final answer y is gone on the bottom

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what made it disappear lol?

warped relic
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$$\frac{7^3}{7} = 7^{3-1} = 7^2$$

woven radishBOT
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VulcanOne

warped relic
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Same case here

restive river
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like im following everything expect why the y is gone

warped relic
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$$\frac{y^7}{y^{-3}} = y^{7 -(-3)} = y^{10}$$

woven radishBOT
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VulcanOne

warped relic
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That's a rule when you want to simplify exponents for one base

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$$\frac{a^n}{a^m} = a^{n-m}$$

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VulcanOne

restive river
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Oh I see

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tysm for the help

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vast bison
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I got some feedback on this but is this even accurate

vast bison
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aside from 11 not being included does it make sense? or should it be {1,2,3} as the set i re did it and got that

supple knot
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It's strictly less

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,calc 11+8 < 19

woven radishBOT
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Result:

false
vast bison
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yes, i understand im asking about the other stuff in the problem. i did a small mistake on there but im not sure if i missed the whole point

supple knot
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You didn't finish all the way solving for x

vast bison
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right! i think thats why i got {1,2,3}

supple knot
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Oh wait

vast bison
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im looking for 3x though?

supple knot
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Yea I missed that

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{3x : ...} = {3, 6, 9} because x = {1,2,3}

vast bison
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huh?

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lol

supple knot
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Added in more details

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,calc 11/3

woven radishBOT
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Result:

3.6666666666667
supple knot
vast bison
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So the answer was completely incorrect then?

supple knot
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But like you said you're looking for {3x...}

supple knot
vast bison
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so this makes more sense

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just want to make sure i understand the concept

supple knot
vast bison
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what is the final answer? or what do i do

supple knot
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Your answer is in terms of x

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You just need to multiply all elements by 3 to get the set in terms of 3x

vast bison
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ohhh, so just plug in that set for 3x

supple knot
vast bison
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3(1), 3(2), 3(3)?

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thats my answer for 3x such that 3x is in Natural num

supple knot
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I mean yes to first part

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No to second

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Your answer has 3 elements

vast bison
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like {3,6,9}

supple knot
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Yes

supple knot
vast bison
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right cause theres no bounds

supple knot
vast bison
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i just cut the rest out

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but okay

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how about this one? i feel like i missed something here with the negative side

supple knot
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Same mistake

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Just multiply your set by 5

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Oh and you missed the minus sign

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-(a+b) = -a-b

vast bison
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but this time im only looking for x? i think

supple knot
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That's the first part

vast bison
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okay

supple knot
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Everything after the : is conditions that 5x must satisfy

vast bison
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so i just need to find an x that is in integers?

supple knot
vast bison
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eh?

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so like for example the solution for this is x <2 it seems but im unsure even with the steps if thats correct?

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because i got full credit for the question like this

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im so confused

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hushed cedar
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bit confused on what to do

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quaint hearth
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how can you get a parabola with the turning point on the origin

quaint hearth
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give me an equation that has the turning point on the origin

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better stated like this

hushed cedar
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y=3x^2

quaint hearth
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yep

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why

hushed cedar
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because the function's turning point is not translated

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x=0 is the line of symmetry

quaint hearth
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a simpler way to think about it is, when you plug in x=0, you get out y=0

hushed cedar
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yup

quaint hearth
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so try to think how you can get a number that when plugging in 0 for x, you get out y=0

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thats how i see it

hushed cedar
quaint hearth
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bad question ngl

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im not sure the correct way to solve this ngl either. intuitively you want it to be close to the origin, and you want to find which point is closest to the origin, which also needs distance

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jaunty mantle
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I feel like you can find the derivative then the turning point in terms of b

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Then graph the distance between the turning point and origin vs value of b

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Id like to learn how to calculate the intersection of 2 lines as such

upper schooner
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Set them equal to each other...?

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quasi rover
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Are 2^aleph_0 and 3^aleph_0 equal?

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zenith jacinth
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,w 2^{\aleph_0}

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zenith jacinth
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,w aleph zero

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zenith jacinth
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,w 3^{\aleph_0}

uncut crow
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it's the number of functions from N to {1,2,3}

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uncut crow
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anyway... yes they are

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if you know some things about decimal numbers, a helpful way to look at is that one is the set of infinite sequences of 0s and 1s, the other is the set of infinite sequences of 0s, 1s, and 2s

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so they can be thought of as base 2 and base 3 representations of numbers in [0,1]

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or... since $3\leq 2^{\aleph_0}$, $$3^{\aleph_0}\leq (2^{\aleph_0})^{\aleph_0} = 2^{\aleph_0\cdot \aleph_0}= 2^{\aleph_0}$$

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💜𝓁𝒶𝓎𝓁𝒶💜

uncut crow
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assuming some cardinal arithmetic stuff ^

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inequality the other way is a lot easier

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by that i mean showing $2^{\aleph_0}\leq 3^{\aleph_0}$ is a lot easier

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true granite
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How to perform questions based on inclusion and exclusion principle like what's the method to perform it for example there is a question - there are 20 diff book , 5 students each students get at least 1 book

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topaz axle
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suppose we did (5C1) * 1^20, we would count ways where 1 student gets 20 books

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then we do (5C2) * 2^20, some of it would account for the outcomes where 2 students have all the books, and the rest would look like 1 student gets 20, repeatedly

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specifically 4 times for each student

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1 × e2 + 4 × e1

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then we would get 1 × e3 + 3 × e2 + 6 × e1 if we do (5C3) * 3^20
then 1×e4 + 2×e3 + 3×e2 + 4×e1
finally 1×e5 + 1×e4 + 1×e3 + 1×e2 + 1×e1 when we do (5C5) * 5^20

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and for some reason if you add and subtract all of this
1×e5 + 1×e4 + 1×e3 + 1×e2 + 1×e1 −
(1×e4 + 2×e3 + 3×e2 + 4×e1) +
(1×e3 + 3×e2 + 6×e1) −
(1×e2 + 4×e1) +
1×e1

you end up with 1 × e5 which is the objective, all ways where exactly 5 students get some amount of books

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it's not intuitive

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\begin{align*}
\sum_{n=0}^\infty \left(\dfrac{1}{3}\right)^{n+3}
&= \sum_{n=0}^\infty \left(\dfrac{1}{3}\right)^{n} \cdot \left(\dfrac{1}{3}\right)^{3}\
&=
\end{align*}

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finite inlet
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I can't use the geometric series here I don't think?

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or can I just pull out the (1/3)^3 out of the sum?

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multiplying each element of the sum with a constant should be equivalent to multiplying the result of the sum with the constant, right?

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yeah

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$\left(\dfrac{1}{3}\right)^{3} \cdot \sum_{n=0}^\infty \left(\dfrac{1}{3}\right)^{n}
= \left(\dfrac{1}{3}\right)^{3} \cdot \dfrac{3}{4}$

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finite inlet
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This seems to be wrong, any idea why?

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I got the 3/4 with the geometric series like this

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restive river
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$S_{\infty} = \frac{u_1}{1-r}$ where $r = \frac{1}{3}$ and $u_1 = 1$

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restive river
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so yes it's wrong

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🤦‍♂️

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thanks a lot lol

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what does an integration sign, with the lower limit as l and no upper limit imply?

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restive river
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you are probably talking about some

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surface integral or something

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yes

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but it's not like this is a super precise definition anyway

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maybe they are just talking about functions defined on an interval?

sonic smelt
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Perhaps that's the case when the interval isn't specified

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Well, yeah

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just from the quote I would guess so

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but not like I have full context

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how to divide guys

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long kettle
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It's generally illegal to divide people

torn wave
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in a group is acceptable

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1 person not really

fringe olive
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oh

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some goofy people will pay you to send a vid of u doing it on an obscure reddit server tho

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oh okay thanks guys

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why did they divide it, instead of cancelling both sides ?
how do i know if you will divide it or cancel both sides?

zenith jacinth
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wdym cancelling both sides

halcyon plover
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it'll be x = 8 instead of x = 3

zenith jacinth
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now 4 x 8 = 12
pog

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4x = 12
which means 4 multiplied by some numbers we dont know yet, give 12 and we need to find this number

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and since we want x alone equal to something

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we need to get rid of that 4 on the front

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we have an equality, so they are subjects to the same operation

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if a = b, then ac=bc

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so here we divide by 4 on both sides

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just starting to learn algebra so thnxx

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I cant figure the formula

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What i have so far is 14000(1+(0.062/n))^nt

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restive river
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im no helper but i can help u out

wide leaf
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Alright

restive river
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well first of all is it compund or simple interest

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Do you see my picture?

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Compound

restive river
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now do yk the formula for compound interest

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What i have so far is 14000(1+(0.062/n))^nt

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Alright

restive river
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bc i got the same thing

wide leaf
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Since youre not official

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What i have 14000(1+(0.062/12))^12t

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If its compounded monthly then the n is 12

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how do you solve this?

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Let g(x) = 16 - 8x and h(x) = 1/4x - 6. Find g(h(x)). Simplify the expression

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help

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Where do you get stuck?

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So the g(h(x)) is the g of h(x).
We know that h(x) = 1/4x - 6, so all we need to do is evaluate $$g(\frac{1}{4}x-6)=$

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im still kinda confused

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So when you put an x value something like g(x), it simply just means that you’re using that x value. So the g(x)=30x-5 as a function, we want to find when x=1, so g(1)=30(1)-5, that equals 25

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So basically what I told you to evaluate is $g(\frac{1}{4}x-6)=16 - 8(\frac{1}{4}x-6)$

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restive river
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oh

flat marlin
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So the concept is essentially working your way inwards from the x. if it says the g(h(f(x))) you would find the f(x), plug that into the h(x), then plug that into the g(x).

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i have no idea where to start or how to do the question

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oh wait it should have two parts to it

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what are the two parts?

muted reef
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literally the top and bottom

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I didn't realise I chopped off the question number and part

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i guess it's manipulating generating functions

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Oh so, find the sum of both of those series? It's two separate problems

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These look like they may be taylor series

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Is this calculus?

muted reef
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series

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Well if it were me, I don't remember all my taylor expansions. So I would look up the standard ones and see which ones the series look close to.

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It may be something like f(2x) or f(x^2) or something, so I'd try to keep that in mind while looking

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hmmm

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edit: I'd look up the standard ones like trig functions, hyperbolic, exponents, etc.

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Just an approach, can't guarantee it'll work

muted reef
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I feel like I need a more solid approach i'm afraid

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For the first one. Try taking derivative of the power series for 1/(1-x)

brisk totem
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oh right this is formal power series

then starting from that you can solve both problems

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Oh that's cool stuff! Better than my "stab in the dark" approach

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thanks, i'll give it a shot

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but where does c feature?

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i have no clue

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On the second problem, I have found something that looks very similar.
You can start with this equality and manipulate the RHS to get the series in the question, then see what's on the LHS.

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Not quite sure how to approach this problem

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You can just let $ \vec x = \begin{bmatrix} x_1 \ x_2 \ x_3 \end{bmatrix}$. Then compute $\vec v \times \vec x$ and $[L]\vec x$ and show that they give the same result

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tatpoj

tired junco
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but can't you multiply a 3x1 vector with a 3x1 vector

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Interpret them as vectors, not matrices

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You can take the cross product of two 3-dimensional vectors

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I'm still confused

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wouldn't that give me another 3*1 vector

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Yes

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[L]x is also a 3*1 vector

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but I have to show that the standard matrix of L

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is that 3x3 matrix

wooden wraith
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Yes

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Oh i see

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and if I multiply that matrix by x, I get the same as the cross product of v and x

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You have to show that

$$\begin{bmatrix}
0 & 1 & 0 \
-1 & 0 & -1 \
0 & 1 & 0 \end{bmatrix}
\begin{bmatrix} x_1 \ x_2 \ x_3 \end{bmatrix} =
\begin{bmatrix} 1 \ 0 \ -1 \end{bmatrix} \times
\begin{bmatrix} x_1 \ x_2 \ x_3 \end{bmatrix}$$

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tatpoj

wooden wraith
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Pardon my bad latex

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But yes you're right

tired junco
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wait

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for the second row

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<-1, 0, -1> * <x1, x2, x3>

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that makes -x1 -x3

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but the cross product is x1 + x3

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um wait let me see, I didn't actually do the computation, I just trusted your prompt that it was true lol

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No, they should both be -x1-x3

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The second entry from the cross product is (-1)(x1) - (1)(x3)

tired junco
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hmm

wooden wraith
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Sorry got the terms backwards, I fixed it

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I'm getting 1(x3)-(-1)(x1)

wooden wraith
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but still it's true

tired junco
wooden wraith
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Ah, you're calculating it by determinants?

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You negate the second one, then, right?

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check your formula, the middle one is the opposite

tired junco
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of what?

wooden wraith
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Can you show me the formula you're using for the cross product?

tired junco
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Ah wait

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I think I forgot the alternating signs

wooden wraith
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dat negative sign

tired junco
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thats more like it

wooden wraith
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Looks good

tired junco
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follow up

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How the hell do I approach this

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@wooden wraith

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hm, sorry, not sure I'm gonna be able to help with this one

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I might be able to figure it out but I'm not confident enough to help

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There are much smarter people here than me though

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I'm wondering if this could be the first step

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I've done a similarish question

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wtf are you using e and pi for vectors

wooden wraith
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i assume

tired junco
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heres the similarish question

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context

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but I can't see how they're related

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how do i find the lower and upper bounds🙏

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Honestly. I don’t know I am so desperate and I have a math final I cannot do this anymore

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I don’t even knkw what Im doing in class.

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but umm

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:c

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on the instructions it says “use your highest residual to write the equation of your upper and lower boundary for this scatter plot” (i’m pretty sure the highest residual would be 1, -22.186) so i did 89.83-22.18 and got liek 97 or something. the answer key says it’s wrong though. THAT WAS AN AWFUL EXPLANATION

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oh I am not there yet

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I am only at integrals

sage mural
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What is that..

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I’m in math 1……

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what is that, is that algebra

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i think so? idk it’s called integrated math 1

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H is not a subgroup of G right?

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Because it is not closed under multiplication, where (log a)(log b) cannot be represented in a form log(Q)

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worn flax
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oh

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i got my definitions wrong

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or rather

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I saw G as <R, x> which is different from <R, +>

hazy quail
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yea the operation is addition

worn flax
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and log a + log b can always be represented as log ab, where ab is always an element of Q since the product of two rationals is rational

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so it is closed under addition

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then we have to check for closure under negatives

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that is correct im just thinking about identity and inverse

hazy quail
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log a is always positive anyways

worn flax
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oh

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pog

violet wind
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log a isn't always positive

hazy quail
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in this case it is

violet wind
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,w log(0.5)

hazy quail
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right?

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hazy quail
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IM A DUMBASS

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im the dumbest person alive

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someone burn me to the stake

violet wind
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lol

worn flax
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haha

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nw

hazy quail
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wait non astral you forgot too

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ok whatever

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um

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ok identity element is log(1)

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loga+log1=loga for all a

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and if we have log a choose log 1/a so that log a + log 1/a = log 1

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and we're done its a group

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subgroup to be exact

worn flax
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yes

spark pewter
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it can be way worse

hazy quail
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nah im dumb

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forgetting the range of lnx

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😦

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it be like that sometimes

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np

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How can one show that the Barnes G-function is an extension of the superfactorials to the complex numbers?

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and does it involve first showing that the K function is a generalization of the hyperfactorial to the complex numbers?

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cause wikipedia only gives some 20 page reference from 1860 in german

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stone stump
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probably

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wikipedia also references this

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(in fact I don't see any source from 1860)

grave void
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the 1860 one is one the K function page

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and this one looks promising imma look through it briefly thank you

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right so

stone stump
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I don't see a source from 1860 in the article of the k function either

grave void
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oh you're right it was on the hyperfactorial page, reference 3

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Kinkelin, H. (1860), "Ueber eine mit der Gammafunction verwandte Transcendente und deren Anwendung auf die Integralrechung"

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this is the title

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right so it seems like this is unintelligible to me if studied briefly imma need to take some time to digest what barnes wrote

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thank you again ill study this and see if i can understand how it's shown

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Guys question how do you do this :'D

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I don't get it...

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I have to find the shaded region and I only got the area

open laurel
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You got area of what

still summit
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I got the area of the triangle I think

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I did 60 + 60 = 120

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and then I misused 120 to 180

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so that means all sides ar 24

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get the radius by using sine rule

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rest is just calculation

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"You want to cut out the largest possible rectangle from the leftover piece shown. How must the lateral positions be selected?"

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The picture

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Had to translate that

regal torrent
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U know derivatives?

fiery seal
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No

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Not in english

regal torrent
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Like double derivatives n stuff?

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d2y/dx2

fiery seal
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No

hushed wraith
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Complete the rectangle and u can find a triangle

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Ucan call one of these lengths x, and then find the other in terms of x using similrr triangles

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Can u try that

fiery seal
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Dont really know what U mean

hushed wraith
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Wait

fiery seal
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Idk If that Info helps but my teacher Said we have to use A=x*y and y=mx+t and find out m

hushed wraith
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can u find EH in terms of x

fiery seal
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Ah

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Dont have any Idea sry

hushed wraith
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try extending that line labeled x until it meets BG

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and extend HE until it meets BF

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hushed wraith
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do u see some similar triangles

fiery seal
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Yeah

hushed wraith
fiery seal
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no like can u also mark those places where HE meets BF and the other line meets BG?

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and send

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Like that?

hushed wraith
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yeeah okay now what is EJ equal to

fiery seal
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EJ=EI

hushed wraith
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no...

fiery seal
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Oh no

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Bruh

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Mb

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IB

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Or BI

hushed wraith
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yeah what is IB again equal to in terms of x

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what is EJ equal to in terms of x basically

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what is the length of the entire line that goes from one end of the page to the other

fiery seal
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90 cm

hushed wraith
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yeah and the beginning of this line is x cm

fiery seal
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Yes

hushed wraith
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then the remaining part EJ is how long

fiery seal
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90-x

hushed wraith
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yeah

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can u see a pair of similar triangles now

fiery seal
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Yeah EGJ and EFI

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can u use their similarity to find the length of IE in terms of x?

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i guess it might be easier if u can use the triangles BFG and EFI instead idk

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PLEASE HELP I ONLY HAVE 1 MINUTE

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we aren't giving answers away directly

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Loool

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please help me understand then

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@frosty mesa tell us what u have done

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Then rosie has 11/3 of them ie 22

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And for b part just subtract thr number of pints

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hi

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,tex $f(x-1)+2f(1-x) = 3x \newline f(1)=?$

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I solved this question but I'm not sure about the answer

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,tex $f(x) = a{n}x^{n} + a{n-1}x^{n-1}+\dotsb + a{1}x+a{0} \newline f(t)+2f(-t)=3t+3 \newline (a{n}t^{n} - 2a{n}t^{n-1}) +(a{n-1}t^{n-1}-2a{n-1}t^{n-1})+ \dotsb + a{1}t - 2a{1}t + 3a{0} = 3t + 3 \newline \rightarrow a{n}=a{n-1}=\dotsb=a{2} = 0, a_{1} = -3, a_{0}=1$

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is this correct? ( f(1) = -2 )

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Ok so what do I look at to determine wether they are Pharrell perpendicular or neother

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two lines are parallel if they have the same gradient

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two lines are perpendicular if the product of their gradients = -1

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  • some caveats for vertical lines
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Idk

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Maybe it’s y = -1

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Wait so the gradient is the slope right

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I'm gonna start again

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Hey, looking for some reassurance

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this would be 4(3) - (-5/10), yeah?

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Whatever that number comes out to be

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How do i fdind the gradient?

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..s

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is everything that i have done correct?

polar bolt
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Why do you write the answer in the start?

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An example answer is domain is [0,inf)

polar bolt
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Why is that not the last thing on your working?

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wdym

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im trying to find the inverse function

polar bolt
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What is the answer to the original question?

high chasm
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so i restrict the domain first

polar bolt
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Restrict domain so inverse is a function

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What is the answer to that?

high chasm
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so restrict the domain

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0 inf

polar bolt
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I mean just a weird order

high chasm
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how

polar bolt
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Then say we restrict it to [0,inf) and show it works

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Now its unclear what the answer even is

high chasm
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normally when u find the inverse u restrict the domain

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and thats what ive done

polar bolt
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Inverse is defined

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Even if not a function

high chasm
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well is everything correct there anyway

polar bolt
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Sure but you should make it clear what your answer is

polar bolt
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Either you find inverse then show [0,inf) works

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Or you say [0,inf) works

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And show it

high chasm
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in an example in my lecture notes

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they restrict the domain

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then find the inverse

polar bolt
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Yes like I said

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They make a claim then show it

high chasm
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ight cool

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just finally

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all my ranges and domains r accurate?

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Yes

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hi

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what is the question here

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i have to solve for the ?

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that is highlighted green

wheat pebble
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which is very weird question

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yes thank u

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I can see that

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idk how to do it

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well you have a right angle to the left

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and the propotion of angles for AC

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then how do i solve

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can someone help me

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i would try law of sine but dunno if it works (since it requires a calculator)

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since they share 2 equal sides

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you can say for sure that x is less greater than 10 (11x-33 <77 => x<10) but dunno if its the lowest upper bound

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calc question

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i know i have to find critical numbers and interval tewst to see whats a max or min, but my critical numbers come out to 0

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so idk if its increasing or decreasing

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torn vessel
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there should be two other critical values

hollow hollow
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lemme send my work

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i got 3 CN's

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0, and plus or minus root2

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if i plug in the roots i get a zero

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right.... you should be plugging in values around the roots

hollow hollow
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cuz they DNE?

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the roots give you intervals of increasing/decreasing, you plug in points in those intervals to determine where the derivative is positive/negative which gives you the function is increasing/decreasing on that interval

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no i know that

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Anyone know how to get $338.88 and the price of the bond of $957.20?

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In column 3

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,calc 1075/(1.08)^15

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@supple knot Is there another way of calculating the 338.88 instead of using the algebraic way

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Also, I did the sum of column 3 and I got $618.31 and not $957.20

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My friend said the other way is: the 338.88 is because its the last payment - so you add the 75 + the principle (1000) = 1075

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But I don’t understand her explanation

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1000 because we always assume FV is 1000

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But the sum of 3rd column isn’t 957.20

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For this problem, would I add the total of fruits and use the combinations to find the probability of having each fruit? or am i doing this wrong

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Wait, nevermind I got it.

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Can someone explain my teacher’s notes?

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Just looking for how he went from the first line to the second line

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@forest olive

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send the integral here

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send working

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Ok

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This was the original question

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And I can't do the first integral geometrically

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ok well

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just find the area of this and times it by -1

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In the working, they did the area of the sector minus the area of the triangle

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ignore that

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That what

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Oh ok

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ignore that its wrong

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Oh, ik what they've done, nvm

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was evaluating under the curve with integration and got -32/3

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U did bottom curve - top curve

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So u got a negative result

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I think I get this conceptually but have no clue how to put it in jargon. My current idea is that we check the base case n=2, where clearly $a_1 * (a_2 * a_3)$ is equivalent to $(a_1 * a_2) *a_3$ since by definition operations in groups are associative

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astral

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So we can (somehow) use this to show that every a series of n terms with parantheses around two elements in the front can be written as a series of n terms with parantheses around the two elements at the back

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and idk we can apply this principle to n terms with multiple sets of parentheses by doing this to each group of elements in each set of parentheses and then combine them tgt

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idk how to explain it

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Like it says, use induction.
You just explained your base case.
Now assume it's true for k < n elements, and show it's true for n elements

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So the statement for n-1 elements would look like "Suppose $a_1 * a_2 * a_3 * ... a_(n-1) = (((... a_1 * a_2) * a_3) ... * a_(n-1)$

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astral

worn flax
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i chan show the n case for that

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sure

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But how do I deal with say, things like $(a_1 * a_2) * (a_3 * a_4)$

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torn vessel
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(a1 * a2) = a for some other a in the group,
so that's equal to a * (a3 * a4) which is n-1 elements. So by induction it works.

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i think the intention is that any bracketing results in the right-associative bracketing

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(a1 * a2) = a for some other a in the group,

Oh, by definition of how a group is self-contained?

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well its just like

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and what you have to show is like

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for an arbitrary bracketing of n+1 terms, you can rearrange the brackets into the right-associative one

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pick any placement of parenthesis, then you have the product of k < n elements (by closure of a group), so by induciton.....

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like say for the case n=4

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what you'd have to do is

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can you just explain the first step please, i dont see how it follows from the assumption

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I get the rest

arctic field
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every step is using associativity

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mm i c

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thanks both

arctic field
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the main idea is

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you can rearrange both large brackets on the left into the right associative bracketing

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by induction assumption

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and then using just the 3 term associativity

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you can progressively "eat" terms from the right bracket into the left bracket

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👍

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i think i get it

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gonna try and express it fomally later, which i think i should be able to

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thanks a bunch, appreciate it

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yow same question again but different answers

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$F(x)=\displaystyle\int_{1-2x}^1\frac{t^2+1}{\sin^-1(t)\pi^t},dt$ at x=0

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this is what i did

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$y_0 = F(0)=\displaystyle\int_{1}^1\frac{t^2+1}{\sin^-1(t)\pi^t},dt=0$

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$F'(x)=\displaystyle -\int_{1}^{1-2x}\frac{t^2+1}{\sin^-1(t)\pi^t},dt$

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$F'(x)=-\frac{(1-2x)^2+1}{\sin^{-1}(1-2x)+\pi^{1-2x}}*[-2]$

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wowowin123

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thus

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wowowin123

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the question is from a text book but the answers are not given only for odd numbers lol

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$F'(0)=-\frac{2}{\frac{\pi}{2}+\pi}*[-2] \rightarrow \boxed{y=\frac{8}{3\pi}(x)}$

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What is ur problem exactly?

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if my answer is correct or not

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the x-intercept is the point at which y = 0, so solve for x

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the y-intercept is the point at which x=0, so solve for y

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then pick points for x between those points and solve for y in those so you can graph them

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you see that's what I was thinking but I wasn't quite surebleakkekw