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low holly
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if that makes sense

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|x| = 0 and |y| = 0 is one equivalence class

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likewise |x| = 0 and |y| = 1

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|x| = 1 and |y| = 0

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|x| = 1 and |y| = 1

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etc.

restive river
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ohhhhhhhh ok that makes sense

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thank you

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chrome furnace
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Can someone explain why the right hand side is wrong

lunar harbor
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Prolly cause you should've said something along the lines of 'let f(y)=x'

chrome furnace
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Yeah but lets say i did that, what would change

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Why is the order in which I rearranged wrong

lunar harbor
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idk I didn't check that deeply

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restive river
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restive river
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Does anyone know why for h(x) it isn’t the same answer as g(x)

midnight dirge
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well

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x^2 is always >=0 in R

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n for sqrt to b defined in R we need the expression inside to be >=0

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so its bit diff

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ones -x^2 the other has x^2

restive river
midnight dirge
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kinda like

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whats the domain of

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sqrt(x^2)

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and sqrt(-x^2)

winter patrol
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you made an error here

restive river
midnight dirge
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ye

winter patrol
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no

restive river
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how then?

winter patrol
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domain oi sqrt(x^2) would be the set of all real numbers

restive river
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ur right

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so all real numbers

winter patrol
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your end result of [-4,4] was correct for the domain of g(x)
probably due to some pre-knowledge
but you made mistakes in what i screenshotted above

winter patrol
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yes

restive river
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i know it would be -4 and 4 when solving for x

winter patrol
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consider the rough graph of x^2 - 16

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you should be able to clearly see where the curve is positive and where its negative

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Would anyone be able to help me on question 16 a) and b) please

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green inlet
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I have no idea where to start

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is this like a deraitive problem?

grim agate
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might help if u write the hyperbolics in exponential form

green inlet
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for sinh(3x) would be it e^3x-3^-3x)/2?

grim agate
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no, (e^(3x)- e^(-3x))/2

green inlet
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so it would be (e^kx +e^-kx)/2 / e^3x-e^3x)/2?

grim agate
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yes

green inlet
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which would just be (e^kx+e^-kx)/(e^3x-e^3x)?

grim agate
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yes

green inlet
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so is it asking which k(x) converges to zero and not infnity?

grim agate
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no,it need not be zero for it to be finite

green inlet
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how do you determine the range for finite vs infnite?

grim agate
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if |numerator| is <= |denominator| then it will converge

green inlet
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so when it converges if is finite right?

grim agate
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yes

green inlet
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and when it divergies it is infite right?

grim agate
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yes

green inlet
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ok im not sure if that has been gone in class yet.....

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but I know it will likely be covered soon

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do I just try and set the numerator equal to the demoantor and solve?

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oh, I think I solved it?? I got [-3,3]

grim agate
green inlet
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can you go through a quick process just to ensure that I remember the process

grim agate
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hmm sure

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what we did was first written it in exponential form

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then for the limit to converge

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we need to have

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|numerator|<|denominator|

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in limiting case

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and then u solve it

green inlet
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|e^(kx)-e^(kx)|<|e^(3x)-e^(3x)|

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then you take the natrual log of both sides

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to get kx-kx=3x-3x?

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is that right?

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white topaz
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How do I find the mean age of a group?

I am doing a fake ‘research experiment’ and I need to find the mean age of a group. I have ‘300 participants’ who range in ages from 18-25

zenith jacinth
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by adding their ages and divide by the number of participants

remote meteor
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literally

lone ravine
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If it's a fake research experiement you can just invent a number. Instead do as Herels has proposed

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signal reef
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why is it when dealing with the horizontal stretch/compression we multiply the x cords by the reciprocal (1/k )

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like if we have 3 as our k value we divide the x coordinates by 3

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zealous spruce
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I've written this in every trigonometric form possible

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Can't resolve it

patent marsh
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what's another way to re-write cos(2x)?

zealous spruce
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So

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Multiple ways

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wait let me find a photo online

patent marsh
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bingo

zealous spruce
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which one

patent marsh
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now I see there's 1 in there that looks like a good candidate

zealous spruce
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tan?

patent marsh
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I would recommend playing around with these

zealous spruce
patent marsh
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but 2cos^2(x) - 1 looks good

zealous spruce
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Ended up nowhere

patent marsh
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because we can try that with u-sub

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let u = 2cos^2(x) -1, then du = -4sin(x) dx

zealous spruce
patent marsh
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not sure if htat would work but just an idea

zealous spruce
patent marsh
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yep! 🙂

zealous spruce
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Alright I'll try that

patent marsh
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sounds good. I gotta head to class so I wont be able to help after but that's the direction I would try first

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I think a u-sub is the answer here so play around with that

zealous spruce
patent marsh
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whoops yeah you're right

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except it'd be -4cos(x)sin(x)

zealous spruce
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yep

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can't go there either

patent marsh
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oh yeah you're right

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yeah u-sub woudlnt' work there

zealous spruce
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yep

patent marsh
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well I know that u-sub will work here, it's just finding what would work

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maybe play around with tan(x)

zealous spruce
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k wait

patent marsh
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I gotta head out, but good luck!

zealous spruce
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k

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Nothing works lol

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Ok lemme try splitting it

bright burrow
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I thought about taking the sinx inside the sq root and doing something with it, what methods have u tried till now💀

zealous spruce
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they don't work

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But I think I may be onto something

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bright burrow
zealous spruce
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it's not that basic

bright burrow
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The answer i got in maple, seemed pretty long and it had arctans

zealous spruce
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i got it

bright burrow
zealous spruce
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Wait I'll take a photo

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It was pretty long

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@bright burrow

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I split the terms in 2 and integrated individually

bright burrow
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Good work

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The main trick was the first step imo

zealous spruce
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Took me an hour for this question

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left robin
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like this? $\ \frac{2\cdot \sqrt{x}}{\sqrt{x}}$

woven radishBOT
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~Martin

turbid sphinx
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would it just be x=0?

left robin
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im just trying to understand your equation

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$\cos{x}+2\cdot \frac{\sqrt{x}}{\sqrt{x}}$

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left robin
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is that what you mean?

turbid sphinx
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no

left robin
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$\cos{(x+2\cdot \frac{\sqrt{x}}{\sqrt{x}})}$

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~Martin

left robin
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ah ok

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when is this undefined?

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sqrt(x)=0

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therefore when x=0

turbid sphinx
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Do I just plug in 0 directly?

turbid sphinx
left robin
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im not familiar with asymptotes and these theorems sorry

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thats just what i see here used most commonly

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looking when denominator=0

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haven't had analysis/calculus yet

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but looking at the graph, x=0 looks right

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!help

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tacit cape
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i dont get what i did wrong here

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so the sum is 1/4x (the 4 isnt x the whole fraction is) +8/5=1/2

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so this is how i did it

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1/4x times 4/1 + 8/5=1/2 times 4/1

gleaming socket
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Why did you times only 1/4x but not 8/5 in the left hand side?

tacit cape
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oh wait

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oh yeah

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ok hang on ill try that

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nope that didnt work either

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i got 64/5

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but the algebra calculator says -22/5

gleaming socket
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Show your work

tacit cape
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WAIT ITS 40

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NVM hold on

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im a widdle silly boy 🥺

obsidian elbow
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Check the last second step

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It would be (-32+10)/5=-22/5

gleaming socket
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Yeah you multiplied 32/5 with 2 instead of adding

tacit cape
gleaming socket
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Becareful with the signs

obsidian elbow
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Dont leave out the signs it hurts the calculation

tacit cape
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wait 32/5 times 2 is 64/5 right

obsidian elbow
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No it is not multiplication it is subtraction there

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It is -32/5 +2

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Not -32/5 × 2

tacit cape
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oh yeah

obsidian elbow
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Now try again

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By taking lcd and subtracting

tacit cape
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so its -42/5

obsidian elbow
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Nopebleakcat

tacit cape
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oh wait yeah

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because one is positive and ones negative

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hang on

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so -22/5

obsidian elbow
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It would be -32/5 +2/1× 5/5

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alright

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thank you

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Npnp

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peak egret
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I’ll translate my problem since its in french

quadratic modeling

A building’s base perimeter is 300m and the area is 4400m2. What are the dimensions of the base?

peak egret
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i dont know how to find it because usually we focus on one or the other, like y is the area, x is one dimension and a is the other but since its area and perimeter combined im confused

vivid cliff
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aye aye

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hm

zenith jacinth
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tu viens de donner le périmètre et l'aire de la base là ?

vivid cliff
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oh nice

peak egret
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je peux envoyer la question une seconde

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numéro 15

zenith jacinth
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Ok, quand on te demande les dimensions de la base, tu sais de quel dimension on parle ?

peak egret
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oui, largeur et longueur

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genre 2L + 2l = 300

zenith jacinth
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Nice, tu as l'aire A d'un rectangle qui est :
A = L x l
On sait aussi que le périmètre P est :
P = 2L + 2l

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On a là un petit système d'équations

peak egret
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ouais il faut le modéliser mais je suis tout mélangé

zenith jacinth
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$\begin{cases} L + \ell = 150 \ L \times \ell = 4400 \end{cases}$

woven radishBOT
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Herels

zenith jacinth
peak egret
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complétion du carré pour trouver la valeur de x?

zenith jacinth
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quel x

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tu as vu x où ?

peak egret
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largeur ou longueur

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pardon je l’avais mal expliqué, y est l’aire, x est la longeur et a est la largeur, donc avec ca on peut les transformer en L et l mais en fin de compte je dois les rammener à x

zenith jacinth
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????????

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Tu as juste à trouver L et l

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pourquoi tu utilises d'autres variables

peak egret
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comment je fais ça? est-ce que c’est en isolant une des lettres?

zenith jacinth
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Bah non, j'y viens justement

peak egret
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ok thinkies

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je suis tellement mélangé je m’excuse

zenith jacinth
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Le mieux serait de déterminer une équation du type :
L+l = s
L*l = p

avec L et l les solutions de l'équation du sécond degré :
X^2 - sX + p = 0

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Bon on l'a notre système, donc on l'associe à une equation du second degré :
$X^2 -150X + 4400 = 0$

woven radishBOT
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Herels

peak egret
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ohhhhh merci!!

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tellement 🫂

zenith jacinth
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de rien

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Si l'equation du second degré n'a pas 2 solutions, il doit avoir un problème

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,w x^2 -150x +4400

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zenith jacinth
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Ok bah, ta longueur et ta largeur sont là

peak egret
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La magie

Plus sérieusement, j'ai oublié la démonstration, c'est une technique qu'on voit en Première je crois, ça date

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Je peux la démontrer vite fait a l'impro

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C’est bon, merci beaucoup pour ton aide, c’est super apprécié!!

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hello, can someone help with this? I've been learning about it but this problem is kinda different from the other ones I have completed and I'm a little confused on how to start it

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please help

outer garnet
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Okay

tropic rock
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i got 7/6 but it was wrong

outer garnet
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What is 0.6 as a fraction?

tropic rock
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6/10

outer garnet
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Yes what is 6/10 + 4/15?

tropic rock
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10/25

outer garnet
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There's the problem

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You can't just add 6 + 4 and 10 + 15

tropic rock
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ah ok

outer garnet
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They need to have the same denominator.

tropic rock
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30?

outer garnet
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Yes

tropic rock
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would the answer be 4/6

outer garnet
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No

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6/10 = 18/30

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You multiplied numerator and denominator both by 3

tropic rock
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alr

outer garnet
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Now do the same for 4/15

tropic rock
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8/30

outer garnet
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Yes

tropic rock
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26/30

outer garnet
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Yes

tropic rock
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then we gotta simpafly

outer garnet
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Yes

tropic rock
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by 2

outer garnet
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Yes

tropic rock
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13/15

outer garnet
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Yes

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Just saw that you wrote private.

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😂

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how do i find the probability distribution for (i)

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elfin hill
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Use the property that if you sum all of the probabilities you will get 1

civic escarp
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i tried looking at the answers and i got this but im not sure how

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like why when x=3 is p(x=x) 1/4a

elfin hill
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You can compute $P(X=n)$ for $2 \leq n\leq 5$ as a function of $a$

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black_couscous

elfin hill
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Factorize by $a$ and you have your result

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black_couscous

civic escarp
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wait but how do u get from 1/2 P(x=2) to be 1/4a

elfin hill
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It's not

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Oh

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It is

civic escarp
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how do you work out the value of it then

elfin hill
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Because $P(X=2)=\frac{1}{2}P(X=1) = \frac{1}{2}a$

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black_couscous

civic escarp
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so u multiply the 1/2 by 1?

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to get 1/2 a

elfin hill
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Yes

civic escarp
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but if u follow that doesnt it mean that when x=3 , you multiply 1/2 by 2

elfin hill
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No

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OHH

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okay

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i get it now

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thanks!

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hi, I'm rusty on linear algebra so this might be a dumb q, but I'm stuck on some computations...I tried to use the given eigenvalue to reconstruct the matrix but has been not fruitful.

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I know that the other eigenvalue is the conjugate

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Is the order correct?

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nope

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first line

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watch out for your negatives

young fossil
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minus minus

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what happens when you take away a negative number?

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You add

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the order is fine gl

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order of operations is good, just remember negatives

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so like think of it as -15(4-8m)

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instead of 15(4-8m)

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Oh

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or u can do 15(4-8m) but then after wards multiply everything by -1

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-1(15(4-8m))

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Hello, can someone help me please, If I know n >= 1 and x >= -1, can someone tell me when (1 + x)^n >= 1 + nx ?? thanks

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no i mean (1 + x)^n = 1 + nx, sorry

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$n \ge 1$
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This is called bernoulli's inequality, and you need to not let x=-1, i.e. you should have x>-1 as your condition, but if you have that and n>=1 it holds

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$$n \ge 1$$
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$$(1+x)^n = 1$$

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Wraith

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wait i dont get it, i let x=-1 and then how do i resolve the equation eqain?

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so (1 + x)^n sould be equal to 1 ?

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wait

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$$n \ge 1$$
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$$(1+x)^n = 1+nx$$

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Wraith

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it's okay, so i just take any n and x i want as long as n>= 1 and x <= -1, that's it?

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this isnt the answer^^^, this is me writing out so its easier to see it written down,
I thought I had it worked out before but I didnt see the "+nx" part.
I probably would have gone about this problem choosing different values for n and seeing where that took me. I'm not entirely sure how to go about it now though. Sneaky said its the bernoulli inequality and says that x>-1 should be your condition. I think he knows a lot about this than me, sorry I can't be more help :I

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ah ok thanks i thought it was the answer, thank you for writing it more clearly 🙂

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I'm sorry what exactly are you trying to solve? are you trying to prove the inequality?

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it is the Bernoulli's inequality, and don't mean to offend but since now you know the reference, you could easily find a proof online 🙂

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if your n is a natural number, you could prove by induction

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@storm gyro it's the equality i want to solve, not the inequality since it can be proven by induction as amelia said but i wan to know which "x" and "n" lead to (1 + x)^n = 1 + nx

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<@&286206848099549185>

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@analog trellis any tips? I can't find the answer 😦

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from wikipedia

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but that's the proof of the inequality, i asked for the solutions of the equation 😦

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for example if i take n = 1 and x = 0, I have (1 + 0)^1 = 1 + 1*0 so the equality is correct but now i need to find all the n and x that work

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Alternative is the clairvoyant has >25% probability of guessing the cards

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hi how can i rationalize that

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?????

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no since addition is commutative

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i need help on number 10, i can get to 4x/32x^3/2 but iget lost from there

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ik to move the 32x^3/2 up it has to turn to negatie

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so than its (4x)(32x)^-3/2 i believe

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√(32x³) ≠ 32x^(3/2)

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yup that's ok

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Hello Hi! I have a math question.

So, I'm trying to calculate in-game currency conversion to an 'item' in game.

1000 "Endo" is worth 50$ in game currency.

I'd like to figure out how much is 1575 Endo worth in game.

karmic vigil
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What formula am I supposed to be using here?

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oh yes gamez

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i think its multiplication

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or ratios?

karmic vigil
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gamez indeed

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like uve to multiply 1000 by

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to get 1575

karmic vigil
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Yeah, I don't really know. and trying to figure it out online wasn't helping.

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similarly multiply the money by that amount

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so thats

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,calc 50*1.575

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Result:

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why do we want to get 1575 from the 1000 times x?

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um

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ratio

karmic vigil
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why'd you multiply :0

midnight dirge
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like

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each endo cost some amt

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in this case each endo costs

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Result:

0.05
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but the price is constant

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so we can just not calc the ratio

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i mean the price

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n use the fact that their ratios r preserved

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the ratio between cost of endo n cost

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I do not understand :^ )

bitter bison
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alr

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ill try to make it a bit easier

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so

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we need to find the cost of 1 endo

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in order to do that

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we take the 50$

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and divide it by 1000 endo because thats what we are given

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so

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50/1000

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which equals .05

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we can make sure of that by doing .05 x 1000=50

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once we have figured out that .05cents= 1endo

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we can than simply multiply .05x1575

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that make it easier or nah, i can try to make it a bit more simple

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,calc .05x1575

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The following error occured while calculating:
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bitter bison
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opps

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its 78.75 anyways

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,calc .05 x 1575

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The following error occured while calculating:
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bitter bison
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he did it correct just a bit harder way of understanding

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u understand now or want me to try and go in more depth

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I see that now

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Yeah could we? I'd aprreciate that

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ok

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so we have 50$=1000endo

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we need to find how much 1 endo costs correct?

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just say like yes to each thing so i can make sure you follow until we find the part you dont understand ✅

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Ya that'd be the next step-- I don't know why exactly, but knowing what one cost allows us to multiply by our endo...giving us the amount of money it takes to buy 1575 endo...

bitter bison
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yes!

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I think I get it-- I just need time to let it sink in

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so in order to figure out how much 1 endo costs

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ok!

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i can finish if u want or not

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up to you

karmic vigil
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ya pls

bitter bison
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so

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we take the 50$

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and are 1000endo

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we divide the 50$/1000endo

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this will give us how much each endo costs

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so its .05cents per endo

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after that just simply multiple the .05 x 1575 which will give you 78.75$

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understand all that? i cant go into much more detail other then why we first divide the 50/1000

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Yeah i got it lol

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alr cool

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Thank you @bitter bison @midnight dirge I know I am not the easiest :^ ) ❤️

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allg, im not very good at math either

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strugglin in hon precalc currently 😆

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Would someone be able to explain what to do with 6ae^a using the quotient rule (differentiation)? I don't understand how to transform this function and the textbook doesn't have examples with this format.

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Does it just stay in that form as the derivative since e^a would remain e^a?

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with what could i compare it to ?

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What about (5+2n)/n^4?

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then ?

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Then you can distribute 1/n^4

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series in the form 1/n^p , p>1

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what ?

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so smart

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Well, your first reflex should be almost always to compare with power series

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$\sqrt{(18)(8)}$

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The guy who asked

restive river
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Is the correct answer 12?

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eh

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,calc sqrt(18*8)

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guys i have a confusion on cayley hamilton theorem where trying to see what it means but the videos on yt seem very similar to finding eigen vectors and eigen values [the solution process i mean] is it because they use cayley hamilton theory to derive it or is there something else going on?

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my first time learning this

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@arctic field

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is this right

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bruh

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i thought you were done

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the "correct answer"

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just wanna

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nono

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yes

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it is

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thrs many Qs

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the correct answer is the correct answer

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cuz i dont wanna

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lmfao

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i cant understnad it

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@arctic field

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whats this mean

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the integrand

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like say z0=1+i

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what would it even mean

arctic field
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its just constant right

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like

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the real part doesnt matter?

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that other one you had integral along the entire real axis

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like wed get some parallelogram contour

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so no matter how you translated it left and right it just like doesnt matter

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no like

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that doesnt rly matter?

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you dont care about the left/right shift

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because it covers the entire horizontal line anyway

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as long as R is big enough n the contour will just eval into the sum of residues

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ye?

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no like

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you just start in the centre

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because you're gonna cover from -inf to inf anyway

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ok but

arctic field
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it doesnt matter which finite value you start at

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just do substitution to get rid of the constant

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doesnt matter

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like

midnight dirge
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so

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generally the cond is the blue bit in the top is =0

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how do we k the blue bits in the btm=0

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given the blue bits in the top=0

woven radishBOT
arctic field
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you literally dont care about the translation

midnight dirge
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thats a nice number

arctic field
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because it covers from -inf to inf anyway

midnight dirge
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yea but in this case isnt it just on the real line

arctic field
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it doesnt matter

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it just doesnt matter

midnight dirge
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dont we hv to do some work

arctic field
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you dont have to start your integral where your offset is

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like

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no

midnight dirge
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to show that the contour of the 2 bits =0

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when we slant em

arctic field
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you dont have to slant them

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bruh

midnight dirge
arctic field
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the translation doesnt matter

arctic field
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you can just start wherever the hell you want

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it literally

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doesnt matter

midnight dirge
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OH WATI

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i just realised

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ok wait then

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so it applies for

midnight dirge
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x repalced with x+i right

arctic field
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sure

midnight dirge
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or just some

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x+iy for any real y

arctic field
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its along the same horizontal line

midnight dirge
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ok cool

arctic field
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in the complex plane

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you cover the whole thing anyway

midnight dirge
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i think

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im

arctic field
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doesnt matter where you start

midnight dirge
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Level 2 translation invariance

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WOW

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amazing

arctic field
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gonna just

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knock you back down to level -infinity

midnight dirge
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what were u sayin

midnight dirge
arctic field
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i mean thats what the z0 is supposed to be

midnight dirge
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at 9 it resets to 0

arctic field
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do a substitution or something

midnight dirge
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i dont quite get it

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so what r we subbin with

woven radishBOT
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hm

woven radishBOT
arctic field
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kinda abuse of notation but whatever

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OH WAIT

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I JUST REALISED

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OK

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wow

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Level 1 Substituition Jutsu

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thanks

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midnight dirge
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are these 3 not the same? cant we just pick some eps=min(eps1,eps2)

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alternatively with R, some great enough R such that 1/R<eps

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arctic field
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@midnight dirge

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hi love

arctic field
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if the definition is given like

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the 3 different limits

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then yeah you cant really take them together in general

midnight dirge
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but cant we just pick some sufficiently large one

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or small

arctic field
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no like

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you cant take limits together in general

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that doesnt work

midnight dirge
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oh so

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this is actually like 3 diff limits

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like

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lim lim lim

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where order doesnt matter

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ok wait

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what

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what does the first mean then

woven radishBOT
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the first one is a limit in R^2

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under the topology of R^2

midnight dirge
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can u explain it with normal terms

arctic field
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like if you have

woven radishBOT
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actually

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can u give an eg where they differ

arctic field
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this is an example

midnight dirge
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o

arctic field
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if you take like

midnight dirge
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if we take either x or y first we get 0

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?

woven radishBOT
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yeah

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but the limit doesnt exist

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because if you set x = y

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you get

woven radishBOT
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u mean for

midnight dirge
woven radishBOT
midnight dirge
arctic field
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no its

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from all directions

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more specifically

midnight dirge
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ye any n all is the same

arctic field
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in every epsilon-ball of the origin

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ok

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well

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imma go

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slp again

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bye

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thanks

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@azure elm we don't give answers here.

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molten dirge
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15 radical 96 divided by 3 radical 3

devout snowBOT
molten dirge
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If that makes sense

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Need help with simplifying the answer

vivid cliff
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aye aye

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wassup

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eh

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er

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hm

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do u men’s

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do u mean*

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$\frac{15\sqrt{96}}{3\sqrt3}$

woven radishBOT
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Springsskateboard

molten dirge
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Yep

vivid cliff
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alr so

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firstly

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do u see

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anything

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cancelling

molten dirge
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Not really

vivid cliff
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alr so

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see the

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15

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in the numerator

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and the 3

molten dirge
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Yea

vivid cliff
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in the denominator

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what is

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15/3

molten dirge
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Isn't it just 5

vivid cliff
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exactly

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so in the numerator

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3 is gone

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and the 15

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becomes 5

molten dirge
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Ok

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Isnt the other answer 32

vivid cliff
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$\frac{5\sqrt{96}}{\sqrt3}$

woven radishBOT
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Springsskateboard

vivid cliff
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wdym other answer

molten dirge
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For 96 and 3

vivid cliff
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after this you can simplify

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the 96

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by thinking

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whether it’s

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divisible by

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a square number

stuck field
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It's not the other answer but 96/3 is indeed 32. However that's all in the sqrt.

molten dirge
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Yea. So would the end of the division be pretty much 5 radical 32

vivid cliff
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eh what

molten dirge
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Then you simplify

vivid cliff
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where did

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the numerator go

molten dirge
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I dont know im new to this stuff

vivid cliff
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denominator*

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also

stuck field
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What do you mean where did it go? The denominator is now 1

vivid cliff
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??

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there’s a sqrt 3

stuck field
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and there's a sqrt 96 duh

vivid cliff
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ah I see

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what he did

molten dirge
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Yea

vivid cliff
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I was slowly gonna

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tell him to rationalise

molten dirge
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I just need to find the simplified answer

stuck field
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$\frac{\sqrt{a}}{\sqrt{b}} = \sqrt{\frac{a}{b}}$

woven radishBOT
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What the hell am I doing here?

vivid cliff
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yeye

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I was like

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why did he suddenly

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skip to that

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but ye

molten dirge
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Because that's where I already am

vivid cliff
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3sqrt32

molten dirge
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Ya

vivid cliff
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have a pic of ur work

molten dirge
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Ok

vivid cliff
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or is that where

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u stopped

molten dirge
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Thsts where I stopped

vivid cliff
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alr alr

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so

molten dirge
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I dont know how to simplify it

vivid cliff
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inside the radical

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32