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near trout
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r is like the multiplicative factor

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so the series is like 0.857142 + 0.000000857142 + 0.000000000000857142

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so the first term is a, 0.857142

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and then r is how much you have to multiply each term to get to the next one

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so that's 0.000001, or 10^-6

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not just 1/10

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try it again with those numbers and it should work

glacial lava
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Oh...

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Right, yeah, actually I had:

a = 857142/10^6

Which I guess is the right 'a'

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But I didn't do the 'r' term right

near trout
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yes

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yep

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ok so where you went wrong, easy mistake, is:

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so you saw 1/10 in here and went 'r is 1/10'

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but there's actually a 6 in the exponent there

glacial lava
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Ohhh

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So that makes it 1/10^6 as the 'r'?

near trout
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yes exactly

glacial lava
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I see

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I definitely didn't think like that

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Let me see if I get it right now

near trout
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yeah easy mistake

glacial lava
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Yup, it worked now

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maiden zinc
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How can I show that?
All the variable €Z
I think that we need to use something about complex number (cause that the chapter I'm doing)

near trout
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what are a, b, c, d, m and n

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this is impossible without knowing those

maiden zinc
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I said that all the variable €Z

stone stump
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Consider these as the squares of absolute values of some complex numbers

maiden zinc
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Hum

near trout
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it's still impossible, right? unless we know more about a, b, c, d, m and n

maiden zinc
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I mean relative intzger

stone stump
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I assume the question is "show that for all a,b,c,d in Z there exist m,n in Z with ..."

maiden zinc
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Yes

near trout
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hmm

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ok now it seems possible

stone stump
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Good. What is the square of the absolute value of the number x+iy?

maiden zinc
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x^2 +2xiy - y^2 ?

restive river
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square of absolute (!) value

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|x+iy|²

maiden zinc
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= | (x+iy)^2|?

restive river
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whats the definition of |x+iy|?

maiden zinc
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= |x| + |iy|

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Ah ok

stone stump
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No

maiden zinc
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= sqrt(x^2 + y^2)

restive river
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that

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so |x+iy|² = x² + y²

maiden zinc
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Yes

restive river
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hope you can see what to do from there

maiden zinc
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I can transform the expression with a b c and d to |z1|^2 × |z2|^2

restive river
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yeah

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and the square and abs then have some nice properties

maiden zinc
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I'm blocked

restive river
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now whats z1 and z2?

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no need to even introduce these variables actually

maiden zinc
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I don't see

restive river
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just
(a²+b²)(c²+d²) = |a+bi|² * |c+di|²

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and |z1|² * |z2|² = |z1*z2|²

maiden zinc
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Ok i didn't know that

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Sry but I'm still blocked x)

restive river
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just expand it to get a number in the form of x+yi

maiden zinc
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Is it that?

restive river
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yeah

maiden zinc
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Ok finally x)
Thx a lot

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This is what I need help with

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@frosty dove ^

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runic pelican
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Hello

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runic pelican
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I need help

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John is riding his motorcycle. His odometer shows that his motorcycle has 1345 miles on it. After riding 3.5 hours, Andrew’s odometer shows 1407 miles. What was Andrew’s average speed for his ride?

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Do I use V=D/T?

long kettle
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Yes

runic pelican
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Could you help me figure it out?

long kettle
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What's the distance he travelled?

runic pelican
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Who?

hallow prism
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John

runic pelican
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1345

hallow prism
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no, what is the distance he traveled during the 3.5 hour ride

runic pelican
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Oh

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4,707.5?

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Divide that by Andrew?

hallow prism
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wait

runic pelican
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4,707.5/ 1407?

hallow prism
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oh

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it has no solution, since we dont know what was andrews odometer at the start

runic pelican
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OH

hallow prism
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and johns odometer info is useless, since it is unrelated to the quesiton

runic pelican
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Dang should've known

hallow prism
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are you sure there are those two names?

runic pelican
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Yeah?

hallow prism
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if all those names would be the same it would make sense

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in that case your teacher messed up and changed name of the person while making this

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everybody makes mistakes

near trout
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what

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lmao

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that's hilarious

hallow prism
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So while there is no real answer, i am not sure your teacher would be happy with that

long kettle
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What?

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Oh

hybrid snow
near trout
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no

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the problem is we only know john's odometer to begin with

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not andrew's

hallow prism
hybrid snow
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But who is Andrew

near trout
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exactly

hybrid snow
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Lmao be a smart ass and say "who the fuck is Andrew?"

runic pelican
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LOL

hybrid snow
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But let's say Andrew and John are the same person and the only reason they changed names was because they're running away from the police under a fake identity

runic pelican
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Oh true

hybrid snow
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Then you can find out John/andrew's average speed

runic pelican
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But what did John do?

hybrid snow
hallow prism
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Maybe he was speeding

hybrid snow
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Recall that average speed is (distance)/(time)

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The distance, in your case, is the change in mileage

runic pelican
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How do I close the room?

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runic pelican
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Oh thanks!

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I am wondering if I did the negation right :

,tex \exists \epsilon > 0 s.t. \forall \delta > 0, \exists c \in R s.t. \neg P(x)

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\exists \epsilon > 0 s.t. \forall \delta > 0, \exists c \in R  s.t. \neg P(x)
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restive river
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Stuck on this linear algebra problem

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restive river
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a hint would be nice

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thats all

crystal rune
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can you show the question as is?

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that is the question as is

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restive river
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hello

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restive river
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can someone please help me understand how this is wrong?

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is it because i missed absolute value? and if so why does it matter?

crystal rune
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Could be the absolute value or maybe it's the c, keep trying

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But absolute value is sometimes put to remind us that for ln(x), x > 0 since ln(x) is not defined for x<=0

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restive river
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It’s weird lol

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balmy carbon
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how to i occupy this channel

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balmy carbon
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I guess that worked

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how can I change this into Gaussian elimination

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also how do i do Gaussian elimination

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wait never mind I got it

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short iron
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[sin^-1 (B) = \frac{2.02}{2}]

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dopediscorduser

short iron
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For problem 17 finding angle B

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What am I doing wrong here?

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[csc(B)=\frac{2.02}{2}=1.01]
[csc(A)=\frac{2.02}{0.2835}=7.125]

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dopediscorduser

short iron
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This is clearly wrong because

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1.01 + 7.125 != 90

tall knoll
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Why do they have to add to 90?

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short iron
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And angle C is already 90

tall knoll
short iron
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I was taking the cosecant to solve for the angle?

tall knoll
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You're taking the cosecant to solve for the cosecant of the angle

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Once you get your ratios (1.01 and 7.125 in your case), you take the inverse cosecant to find the angles

short iron
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Inverse cosecant would just be the sin?

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,w sin(1.01)

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tall knoll
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No

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Csc(x) = 1/sin(x)

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They're reciprocals, not inverses

short iron
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Okay

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It’s very clear I need to review the basics here

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eager crystal
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I said and for this one

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But the answer sheet said or

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-4 or 1/2

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When can you say “and” and when do you have to say “or”?

midnight dirge
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ye

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its

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or

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it cant take both values at once

eager crystal
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Why not

thin gust
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x is only 1 variable

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1 letter only

eager crystal
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Im saying both answers are correct

thin gust
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or and and have different like

eager crystal
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So i put and

thin gust
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meanings

eager crystal
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Oh

thin gust
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if u put and

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it means

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how do I exp this

midnight dirge
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ok its like

thin gust
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@midnight dirge

midnight dirge
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x(x-1) = 0

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so

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from this

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u can only conclude

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x = 0

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OR

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x-1 = 0

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u dont know if they both are 0

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they can be both 0

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but they might not be

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so u cant conclude that

midnight dirge
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bad at dis

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but

eager crystal
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Oh

midnight dirge
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i feel i saw snow explain this b4

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or smt similar haha

thin gust
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snowy

midnight dirge
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got it?

eager crystal
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So since you don’t know the actual x

midnight dirge
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so much snow

thin gust
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explain to snowball

eager crystal
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You’re kinda being safe by saying x?

thin gust
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like

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for eg

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u got answer as 4

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-1/2

eager crystal
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Cuz it’s like one or the other

thin gust
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plug in x=4

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does it give u 0

midnight dirge
thin gust
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goddess is the new snow

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❄️ Jr.

midnight dirge
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another eg is

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x^2 > 0

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u can conclude that

eager crystal
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So the mathematical term of and is different from the general and we use in english?

midnight dirge
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wait nvm i shld use a,b

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er

midnight dirge
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i think its quite similar to english

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its only or

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where if both is true

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or is still true

eager crystal
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When do you use and then,

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?

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Can you give me an example?

midnight dirge
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um

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i feel

thin gust
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for eg

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errr

midnight dirge
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its kinda rarely used till later

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well

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except in questions maybe

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they might have a

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for all x,y such that x>0 and y>x

thin gust
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-1+x<2x<5x+9

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smth like rhat

midnight dirge
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oh thattoo

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hahaha

thin gust
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i made that up

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idk if it’s solvable

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but ya

midnight dirge
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u

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shlda just used nice numbers then

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like

thin gust
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-1+x <2x 2x<5x+9

midnight dirge
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1<x<3

thin gust
midnight dirge
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so we can conclude like

thin gust
midnight dirge
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x<1

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and

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x<3

thin gust
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@eager crystal

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1<x<3

eager crystal
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So for example in x^2=25 you don’t know what x is so you’re saying it can be either 5 or -5

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So thats where or comes from

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thin gust
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HAHAHA

eager crystal
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Cool thank you!

midnight dirge
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ayy

eager crystal
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I think ive been using and not knowing i was wrong lmao

thin gust
eager crystal
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I got it now tho

thin gust
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yayayaya

midnight dirge
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did that too

eager crystal
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Thanks again

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I dont know how to do this question. 5. Find the vertices of the region that contains the solutions to the system of linear inequalities

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!15m

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how do you write this in LaTeX but such that they're actually on top and bottom of the sigma instead of to the side?

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display

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Use $$

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Whoops

tall knoll
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$\sum_{i=0}^n$

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$\sum_{i}^n =0$

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Steakanator

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I don't really have a visual for this question

So there is a square, and there is a circle that fits perfectly into the square. From one of the corners to the opposite side corner of the square is 4 units. what is the area of the circle?

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lunar harbor
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^

near trout
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if you don't have a visual, then remember that you can literally always just draw a really crappy one

lunar harbor
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touches but drawing exact is hard lol

unreal goblet
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oh right.

lunar harbor
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doesn't need to be perfect

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just good enoguh to get the idea across

near trout
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here we go

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it's beautiful

lunar harbor
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I love curvy squares

unreal goblet
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crappy drawing

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lunar harbor
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is there some hidden meaning I'm unaware of lol

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oop

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?

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🤷‍♂️

unreal goblet
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is that question even solveable?

lunar harbor
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yeah

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can someone send an explanation for the question?

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restive river
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i dont understand what the question wants us to do with those values as it was not specified.

long snow
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should there only be one value?

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at (72,15)

restive river
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well think about it logically. It is a pattern that repeat after after the 5th row so the 70th row will be on the 5th row, 15 and the 71 will be 1241011, so the 72th row will be 25912

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the same for the column. There are 5 columns repeating so the 15 column will be 11

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hi is it possible ask discrete amthematic question here?

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You can ask any math question here

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Yes, anything related to maths

restive river
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ok i will make it

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seems im a bit stuck on this one

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What various methods have you tried?

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Have you worked out fg(x)?

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Nvm thanks I got it 🙂

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Need help solving this

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jaunty gazelle
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I know I would do -log_4(2sqrt(2)), right?

grim agate
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And it would be nice if you split the log into fractions

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Uhh no

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Thats what i mean

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Well you can do that if you want

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The thing you mentioned above

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Yes, but ur 2nd line it is wrong

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Because what it says is log_(1/4)(..)= -log_(1/4) (…)

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So its saying a = -a

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Umm do you get it?

jaunty gazelle
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No. Am I not suppose to make the entire expression negative?

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Uhh, no the property is $\log_{\frac 1b} a = - \log_b a$

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And what you’ve written in 2nd line is $\log_{\frac 1b} a = - \log_{\frac 1b} a$

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Deep. (kawaiiCat for emoji)

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But 3rd line is fine

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Umm do you get my point?

jaunty gazelle
grim agate
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No,

I know I would do -log_4(2sqrt(2)), right?
this is correct

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But -log_(1/4) (2sqrt(2)) is not correct

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That’s what i’m trynna say

jaunty gazelle
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What’s the difference between the two? Is it because the 1/4 is it in parenthesis?

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Uhh how do i explain

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Wait

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If you just look at these two do you think equality sign holds true?

jaunty gazelle
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Yeah. Does it not?

grim agate
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So is $\log_{\frac 14} a = - \log_{\frac 14} a$

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Deep. (kawaiiCat for emoji)

jaunty gazelle
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No they’re different

grim agate
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Thats the point

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The second line is wrong, because they are different

jaunty gazelle
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So then the third line is also wrong…

grim agate
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No

jaunty gazelle
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Because it’s different from first

grim agate
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No

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They are same in fact

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Well

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Why don’t we do something

grim agate
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Okay?

jaunty gazelle
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How is it the same when my second line is also my third

grim agate
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Hmm, ur second line is not same as third line, think why

jaunty gazelle
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I’ll just leave this aside. Now that I have my fraction..

grim agate
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Well anyways I think its better to leave that

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Yes

jaunty gazelle
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So we have $\log_{\frac 14} 2\sqrt 2 = \frac{\log_c 2\sqrt 2}{\log_c \frac 14}}$

jaunty gazelle
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Yes

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jaunty gazelle
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Well I have log_c(4)

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But same thing oh

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Ig*

grim agate
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Yes

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And what do we know, 2 sqrt(2) = 2 ^(3/2)

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Is that correct?

jaunty gazelle
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Yes

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Would I use quotient power rule here?

grim agate
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And 1/4 is 2^…?

jaunty gazelle
grim agate
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Yes, so 1/4 is 2^(-2) you get that?

jaunty gazelle
grim agate
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Hm?

jaunty gazelle
grim agate
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Yes

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And now we use power rule like you mentioned

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So now will you be able to do it?

jaunty gazelle
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/

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Where the divide by?

jaunty gazelle
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We'd be dividing instead of subtracting?

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wait

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would it be log_c(2^3/2)/log(2^2)?

grim agate
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log_c(2^3/2)/(-log_c^(2^2)?)

grim agate
jaunty gazelle
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so we wouldn't be subtracting

grim agate
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Now you use power rule

jaunty gazelle
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we'd still be dividing..?

grim agate
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Its this

jaunty gazelle
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let me check

grim agate
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We use property separately for numerator and denominator

jaunty gazelle
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$\frac{- \log_c 2^{\frac 32}}{\log_c 2^2}= \frac{- \frac 32 \log_c 2}{2 \log_c 2}$

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Deep. (kawaiiCat for emoji)

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I didn't think so; but if they are okay. Let me try the next step and show you

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Sure

jaunty gazelle
grim agate
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yes

jaunty gazelle
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Really?

grim agate
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and now log_c (2) will cancel out

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do you see

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$\frac{- \frac 32 \cancel{\log_c 2}}{2 \cancel{\log_c 2}}$

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so you are left with -(3/2)/2

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and that’s -3/4

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that’s it

jaunty gazelle
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wait no

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wrong one

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you are correct

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wow

grim agate
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hmm 🤔

jaunty gazelle
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you made it seem easy

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but it isn't..

grim agate
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i am glad you understood

jaunty gazelle
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hmm, honestly i’m not quite sure, you could maybe ask in #book-recommendations or maths discussion channel

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hello

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I have some differential equations, my answer doesn't match the books solutions, they didn't multiply tan x by sec x, I'm not sure if this is intentional or not, I missed this class so I'm not too confident on it to know if its a mistake

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The derivative of sec(x)*y is sec(x)*dy/dx + (sec(x)tan(x))*y

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🤦‍♂️

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can someone explain why sqrt(28) had to be factorised into sqrt(4(7)) in step 2-3? thanks

vague ibex
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can you solve without doing that?

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sqrt(28) can be simplified and should be simplified to that

arctic field
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it's also asking for x

vague ibex
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yeah, need to use t now, thank you all

arctic field
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in terms of p +- q sqrt(r)

vague ibex
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wait

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if i skipped step 3

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and did 6+sqrt(28) all /2

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i get 3+sqrt(7)

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so at the moment

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since you have t

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what you do doesn't really matter

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Prove that $\sqrt{\frac{a^2 + b^2}{2}} \le max(a; b)$, where $max(a; b)$ is the greater number of the two.

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trololol !

restive river
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What I tried is:

stone stump
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That's false. Unless at least one of a or b is positive

restive river
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oh right, forgot to mention that

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yes, a and b are positive

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both

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Let $m = max(a; b)$

We now have:
$\sqrt{\frac{m^2 + \left(m -x\right)^2}{2}}$

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trololol !

restive river
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I tried squaring both sides of the inequality, and also got rid of the fraction, and I got

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$2m^2 -2mx + x^2 \le 2m^2$

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trololol !

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i substracted $2m^2$, and got

woven radishBOT
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trololol !

restive river
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$x^2 - 2mx \le 0$

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trololol !

restive river
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and idk what to do from this point

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Notice that x != 0

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Since x is positive.

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So you can divide by x.

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You are overcomplicating it

inland seal
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How?

stone stump
inland seal
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You will get ||x <= 2m|| which is always true

restive river
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i dont understand

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so

stone stump
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a^2+b^2<=2m^2

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Plug this into the sqrt

restive river
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oh

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🤦‍♂️

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idk how i havent thought of this

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thanks!

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Happens. Sometimes we miss the obvious

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yeah

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[-\frac{24}{25}^2+cos(\theta)^2=1]

[cos=\sqrt{1}-\frac{24}{25}]

[cos=\frac{1}{25}]

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dopediscorduser

short iron
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What am I doing wrong here?

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You can’t square root a sum like that

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$\sqrt{a+b} \neq \sqrt a + \sqrt b$

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short iron
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Oh

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[cos=\sqrt{1-(-\frac{24}{25})^2}]
[cos=\sqrt{\frac{625}{625}-\frac{576}{625}}]
[cos=\sqrt{\frac{49}{625}}]
[cos=0.28]

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Does this look right?

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How do I solve for x

restive river
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why cant you use u = cosx?

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WHY

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lol

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Sorry

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can you maybe delete ur stuff

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Is my work correct?

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Tryna find the domain and range of this inverse function. The function I’m being asked to find the inverse and domain and range of inverse is f(x)=x-2/x+3

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Wouldn’t the domain be the literal domain of the inverse? And what would the range be?

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Also the domain of the inverse is the range of the original

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And range of inverse is domain of original

jaunty gazelle
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Wait what

jaunty gazelle
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I thought the domain of the inverse would be the literal domain of the inverse?

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Oh

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Which is also equal to the range of the original

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$-1 \leq 1 - \frac{2}{x} \leq 1 \iff \frac{2x - 2}{x} \geq 0 \wedge \frac{-2}{x} \leq 0$

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Gigabyte

unreal saffron
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can somebody like

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explain this

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I thought they did something with the '1' at the left side

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but that would result in

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$\frac{x - 2}{x}$

woven radishBOT
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Gigabyte

long kettle
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Split the inequalities. You have -1 ≤ 1 - 2/x and 1 - 2/x ≤ 1

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Deal with each inequality seperately

unreal saffron
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okay wait let me write that down

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on the left side i get

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$\frac{2 - 2x}{x} \leq 0$

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Gigabyte

unreal saffron
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instead of

long kettle
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Explain

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Nvm

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It's the same

unreal saffron
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$\frac{2x - 2}{x} \geq 0$

long kettle
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Multiply both sides by -1 and it's the same thing

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Gigabyte

unreal saffron
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ohhh okay any reason they did this though

unreal saffron
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To put the x in front, I guess

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Positive coefficient and all

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aha okay thank you!!

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Prove that, for any positive real numbers $a$, $b$ and $c$, the following is true:

$\frac{b + c}{a} + \frac{a + c}{b} + \frac{a + b}{c} \ge 6$

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trololol !

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I have no idea what to do.

royal current
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Apply am≥gm for p/q cyclic

restive river
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Um

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U know AM≥GM?

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arithmetic mean and geometric mean

restive river
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what is am, what is gm, what is "p/q" cyclic

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And p/q cyclic is

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p=a, b, c

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q=a, b, c

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Like a/b+a/c+b/a+b/c+c/a+c/b

restive river
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i don't understand

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restive river
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i don't see how i can get an arithmetic mean and geometric mean out of these terms

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so that i can apply the formula

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um wait

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right, in order for $S \ge 6$ to be true, the arithmetic mean of these six fractions needs to be greater, or at least equal to 1

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trololol !

restive river
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but what do i do from that point on

royal current
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The arithmetic mean is what you needed

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In the question

restive river
restive river
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this is the question

royal current
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It is the 6(arithmetic mean)

restive river
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but if we do that, i'd have to prove that the arithmetic mean is greater than, or equal to 1

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and idk how to do that

royal current
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Am≥Gm is a proof for that

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For all positive real numbers this holds

restive river
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where do we have a geometric mean in this inequality

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i don't see any

royal current
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When u multiply all the terms they just get cancelled

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And it equals 1

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Hence the (1)^(1/6) in the rhs

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oh

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OH

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is something like tan^-2(x) considered arctan

restive river
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or is it when its only -1

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I think blackpenredpen made a video about this

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I think you would consider it as 1/tan^2(x)

restive river
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so like for instance

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-2tan^-3(x) sec^2(x)

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would be the derivative

inland seal
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tan^-3(x) will be cot^3(x)

restive river
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wait why

inland seal
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cot(x) is 1/tan(x)

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$\tan^{-3}(x) = \frac{1}{\tan^{3}(x)} = \cot^{3}(x)$

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RedstonePlayz09

inland seal
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If you don't know what cot(x) is, just keep it as 1/tan^3(x)

restive river
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so if it has -3 i should make the exponent positive and then take the derivative?

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Derivative?

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No

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$a^{-b} = \frac{1}{a^b}$

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RedstonePlayz09

inland seal
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Exponent rules

restive river
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yes

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but then after you do that, then youd take the derivative?

inland seal
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Are you taking the derivative?

restive river
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yeah i was confused about taking the derivative of tan^-1(x) vs tan^-2(x)

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arc tan is just -1 and has its own formulas?

inland seal
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arctan(x) is often written as tan^-1(x), which is NOT 1/tan(x)

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I understand how to solve this problem, but I'm having a bit of a time actually writing it into a proof

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I keep bumping up against this problem when I try to merge the two inequalities

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The rightmost element in the inequality needs to be 1

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  1. Is z<0? x and y are unknown.
    (1) xz > yz
    (2) xy > yz

Sufficient information for the solution is obtained:
A in (1) but not in (2)
B in (2) but not in (1)
C in (1) together with (2)
D ¡ (1) and (2) separately
E not in either statement

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Just check each case seperately

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The answer choices

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Check if each case is sufficient

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If you don't know how to do that, just tell me :)

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west girder
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Can anyone help me understand the steps to solve these problems?

hybrid snow
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Erase low order terms

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Legit just grab the eraser and erase low-order terms from the numerator and denominator

midnight dirge
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hahaha eraser

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just understand that

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with landau u can get through this

hybrid snow
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@honest aurora yo you good?

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You're typing a whole ass paragraph

west girder
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ok so bottom would be x^3 -3x + 1

honest aurora
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but if u need to show your work and understand why this works i would recommend dividing all parts by the largest power of x. so in example 32 divide all parts of both parts of the fraction by x^3, once u set the limit to infinity then u can see that the lower order terms go to 0

hybrid snow
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Literally just erase low order terms

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Save yourself the time

honest aurora
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telling people to just erase stuff and trust you wont exactly teach them very much im afraid

west girder
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sorry i dont understand

hybrid snow
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I'll show you as an example

west girder
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erase low order terms

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ok

midnight dirge
hybrid snow
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The first one as an example

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$$\lim_{x\to \infty}\frac{1-3x^3}{2x^3-6x+2} \equiv \lim_{x\to\infty} \frac{-3x^3}{2x^3}$$

woven radishBOT
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Umbraleviathan

hybrid snow
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You're essentially just gonna keep the leading terms

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For the most part, they're the highest-power term

west girder
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wait why does that work?

hybrid snow
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It's still gonna be infinity

west girder
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oh ok

hybrid snow
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So we look at whichever term is gonna have the "biggest infinity" (which is an incorrect statement, but for conceptual purposes, I will still say it)

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Because any pebble against a large ass infinity ain't gonna do anything

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So we just keep whatever term is bigger

honest aurora
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if u show the work in between its easy to see why this must be the case as x goes to infinity

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notice how the limit was applied in the 2nd last equality

west girder
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so all i do is divide everything by the biggest term

honest aurora
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yes, which is why they are saying just erase all lower order terms

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but u need to know why you can do that

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erasing all does the same as what i just did but this way you can understand the logic behind it

west girder
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ok

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so -3/2

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is that the answer?

honest aurora
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yes

west girder
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so its not infinity?

honest aurora
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no it is not

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if however the largest term in the top would be x^4 for example

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then you would get infinity as once u apply the limit u essentially get 0 in the denominator after dividing by x^4 and applying the limit

west girder
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cuz it would all be 0

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cuz the 2 would be 0

honest aurora
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exactly

west girder
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ok

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so for the nextg one

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it would be x^2 over -x^3

honest aurora
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doesnt matter whether u do negative or positive

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or, actually u will get the opposite limit

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so dont do negative, always positive

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actually i think thats wrong lol. doesnt matter as long as u do it on both the top and the bottom. either way there is really no reason to do over -x^3 as doing it over x^3 does the same thing

west girder
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ok

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is the answer infinity?

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cuz what do u do when its x^2 over x^3

honest aurora
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reposting so i dont gotta scroll

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so you decided that dividing by x^3 is the correct move right?

west girder
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i think

honest aurora
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ok, so what happens after you simplify

west girder
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its just x^2 over x^3

honest aurora
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aka remove as many x's as you can

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and what is x^2 divided by x^3?

west girder
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0?

honest aurora
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dont apply the limit yet

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just normal division

west girder
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what do u mean by applying the limit?

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its just root x right?

honest aurora
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$\frac{x^2}{x^3}=?$

woven radishBOT
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Duh Hello

honest aurora
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its very simple

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not a trick question

west girder
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root x?

honest aurora
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not quite

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$\frac{x^2}{x^3}=\frac{1}{x}$

woven radishBOT
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Duh Hello

west girder
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am i stupid

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i still dont get it

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why is x^2 / x^3 = 1/x

honest aurora
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because $x^3=x\cdot x\cdot x$ and $x^2=x\cdot x$ so $$\frac{x^2}{x^3}=\frac{x\cdot x}{x\cdot x\cdot x}=\frac{1}{x}$$

woven radishBOT
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Duh Hello

honest aurora
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you just cancel out 2 x's

west girder
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oh ok

honest aurora
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i would recommend working on your algebra if this is something that confuses you

west girder
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so 1/x is the end?

honest aurora
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so posting again

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the first term at the top

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what is that after you have divided by x^3?

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on 34

west girder
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its 1/x

honest aurora
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good, now what is the next one? following the same logic

west girder
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its 1/x^2

honest aurora
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correct, now next one we obviously cant cancel any x's

west girder
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so its 0?

honest aurora
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no, just keep it as -5/x^3

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i will come to what i mean by applying the limit

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in a bit

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but first we go through simplifying all

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so first on the bottom

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the first one we also cannot cancel anything correct? so we just have 1/x^3

west girder
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yes

honest aurora
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what about the next one?

west girder
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-2/x^2

honest aurora
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good, and then the last one

west girder
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1

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or -1

honest aurora
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good

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so now since we are checking what happens when x goes to infinity we use this lim symbol to symbolize that

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now what happens to each term when x does go towards infinity?

west girder
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it becomes nothing

honest aurora
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does all of them become nothing?

west girder
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except -1

honest aurora
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ok, so what do we have left?

west girder
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uh

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0

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1/x

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and root x

honest aurora
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not sure why root of x keeps coming up for you

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but going 1 at a time. we have $\frac{1}{\infty}=?$

woven radishBOT
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Duh Hello

west girder
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ohhh

honest aurora
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thats what applying the limit means

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u essentially plug it in (in loose terms), technically we are just approaching it as infinity, hence why we call it a limit

west girder
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ok

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let me try

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sorry im stuck again

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idk where im at

honest aurora
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this is the next "step". mathematicians will be angry at me for writing it like this, but this is essentially what u are doing

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but what happens when u divide a finite number by an infinite number?

west girder
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becomes 0

honest aurora
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yes

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so what does this become

west girder
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0 / -1

honest aurora
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yes

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and what is that?

west girder
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undefined?

honest aurora
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why is that not defined?

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type it into a calculator

west girder
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just 0

honest aurora
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yes, u divide 0 by something that isnt 0 and u get 0

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and that is the limit as it approaches infinity

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do you understand what happened here?

west girder
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so we divided by x^3

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i thnik so

honest aurora
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u think u can complete the next question?

west girder
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i think so

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is it 0/1

honest aurora
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how did u get to that?

west girder
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i did everything divided by x

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1/x - 2x^3/x

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over

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x/x + 1/x

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then put the limit in

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and got 1/infinity - 2infinity^2

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over

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1 + 1/infinity

honest aurora
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u are talking about 36 right?

west girder
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yes

honest aurora
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so u divided by what?

west girder
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i divided by x

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should i have divided by x^3

honest aurora
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x^3 is a larger power than x

west girder
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ok so thats where i went wrong

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i divided by a lower power

honest aurora
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try again

west girder
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-2 over 0

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-2/0

honest aurora
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good, what is that then?

west girder
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undefined

honest aurora
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yes, but for now we are just gonna call it infinity

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now know that we have actually only done part of the problems

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they ask for both infinity and negative infinity

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and in this last one, since it tends towards infinity, we need to know whether its negative or positive infinity

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but i think i might have to throw in my towel here. i believe you need to revisit some algebra here so that it can be accomplished easier. i believe it would take me quite some time to be able to properly explain to you exactly what it is the question is asking for

west girder
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alright well i appreciate the help!

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thanks alot!

honest aurora
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no worries. good luck

west girder
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.close

devout snowBOT
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silk ridge
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how do I factor this?

devout snowBOT
silk ridge
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this is the answer

near trout
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remainder theorem

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2(3)^3 - 3(3)^2 - 27 = 0, so (x-3) is a factor

silk ridge
near trout
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i couldn't