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still pulsar
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my bad, I meant solve for x, using the fact that the radius = 6

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ignore the 6

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for now, what would

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$x^2 + x^2$ be using pythag

woven radishBOT
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Rαιη

inner oyster
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2x^2

still pulsar
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square root that

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to get hyp

inner oyster
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2x?

still pulsar
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root(2) x

inner oyster
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radicals arent my specialty

still pulsar
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now we want "2x"

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rearrange to get "x = 6/root(2)"

inner oyster
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why wasnt da 6 rooted

still pulsar
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and also the hyp

inner oyster
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but if u root one side dont u root da other

still pulsar
inner oyster
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xroot2?

still pulsar
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we're now equating what we have rooted with values we know

inner oyster
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ok

still pulsar
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but you'd still need to solve for x

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actually, no

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ignore what I just proposed

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you have to solve for hyp before equating the hyp with 6

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$\sqrt(2)x = 6 => x = \frac{6}{\sqrt{2}} => \frac{6 \sqrt{2}}{2}$

woven radishBOT
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Rαιη

still pulsar
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we want 2x

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so

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$\therefore 2x= 6 \sqrt{2}$

woven radishBOT
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Rαιη

inner oyster
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im confused

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6root 2 is da hypothenuse

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it equals 2 legs?

still pulsar
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so you get (6 root(2))/2

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*multiply by root(2)/root(2) = 1

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so so hyp = 6, but it is also root(2) x

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basically you need an expression that can get you what "x" alone is

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and then you find 2x

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then add 2x to the arc length

inner oyster
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2x=6root 2

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right?

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i really don't get it should i move on from this problem

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would problems like these show up on the shsat

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carmine swallow
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How do I factor out x^2-5x-6

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carmine swallow
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35 minutes is hella long

supple knot
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Just watch on 2x until you get enough knowledge to solve it

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inner oyster
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_=2 negetive/positive values dat adds up to 5 and multiply to get 6

carmine swallow
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what

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how do I write that

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I don't want to be annoying, but the video might help. It's harder to explain a whole topic via messages, and where there are such great resources online is also a waste of time tbh

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empty flame
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Hi

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empty flame
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I was asking if this answer is correct, is it ?

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mental dew
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Guys i really need someone to help me with understand what are
Rational numbers
Irration no
Whole no
Integers

grand smelt
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rational means a number that can be represented as a fraction

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a fraction with whole numbers at the denominator and numerator

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irrational is numbers that can’t be represented in such way, for exampless √2, π, e, etc

loud root
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integers=whole numbers: 0, -1, 1, -2, 2 etc...

grand smelt
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whole numbers are numbers with no decimal point^

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and integers are the same thing,

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there’s also natural numbers, which are the integers (whole numbers) that aren’t negative

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whether or not you consider 0 to be a natural number is up to debate, idk if it is but it’s not that deep

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i hope that helps

mental dew
grand smelt
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it’s neither

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whole numbers and integers are the same thing

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this is not whole as it contains a .7

mental dew
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Ah ok

grand smelt
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integers do not have decimals

mental dew
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Thank you so much

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no worries, feel free to .close :)

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upper mortar
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yo how would I get sqrt(368) == 4*sqrt(23)

upper mortar
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like how does that simplification process work, i just have no clue

supple knot
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wikiHow

A number's factors are numbers which multiply together to form it as a product. Another way of thinking of this is that every number is the product of multiple factors. Learning how to factor - that is, breaking up a number into its...

loud pebble
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@upper mortar you need to split the number, 368, into two factors

upper mortar
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right ik that, its just how would u pick those numbers?

loud pebble
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Personally, I like to split it into a square and a non-square. E.g., 16 and 23, because I then know that sqrt(16) is 4

supple knot
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you can just use the primes

upper mortar
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idk primes

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can i do it another way?

upper mortar
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did u just know off the top of ur head that it makes 368

loud pebble
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not at all. i divided by 2, then by 2 again, then by 2 again, then again

upper mortar
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why 2? and how does that get to 23 and 16, youd only have 1 num

supple knot
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there are 7 of them in that image

upper mortar
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are they important?

loud pebble
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very

upper mortar
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how so?

loud pebble
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in this case, i kept dividing by 2, so 368, 186, 92, 46, 23, and i can't go any further

upper mortar
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cant u get 23/2

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x.5

loud pebble
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well prime factorisations are important in their own right, but by knowing once i get to 23 i can go no further I know I can say 16*23

upper mortar
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howd u get 16

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and why cant u go further

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or are u just going into the nearest int

upper mortar
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so a prime num is any num that cant be made by multiplying ints together

loud pebble
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I am trying to find a square. by finding the prime factorisation, which is 2^4 * 23, I know I have sqrt(2^4)*sqrt(23)

upper mortar
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did u intentionally chose 2? why not just pick 16 at the start

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once u know 23

loud pebble
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I highly recommend you look up how to do prime factorisations. a useful method is the prime factorisation tree

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i chose 2 because of intuition, and because it's easy with the tree. if i knew 16 and 23 made 368 i could have just said that off the bat -- my mental maths skills aren't that great

upper mortar
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ok but equally u couldve tried 2^1,2^2,2^3,2^4 and then u have ur number

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once u got 16 did u multiply it goether to check?

supple knot
upper mortar
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huh?

supple knot
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oh nevermind i misread

upper mortar
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all nums are divisable by 2

supple knot
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yes it doesn't matter the order how you get 16 and 23

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there are many ways to do this

upper mortar
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so should i just look up how to prime ig?

loud pebble
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here's an example of finding the prime factors of 120. The answer in this case is 2 * 2 * 3 * 5 * 2, or 2^3 * 3 * 5, which I could say is sqrt(2^2) * 2 * sqrt(15) = 2*sqrt(30)

supple knot
upper mortar
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i dont know why ur chosing these nums

loud pebble
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Read that article first. if you're still stuck open a new Q and I can go through an example

upper mortar
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i have read

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it said a num cant be divided by another num

loud pebble
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you can pick any factor. just pick whatever jumps out at you

upper mortar
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but that doesnt make sense

loud pebble
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take 368, what's the first most obvious factors you can think of?

upper mortar
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2

loud pebble
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yea

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you see it's even, so you divide by 2

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so your tree would have 368 at the top, then 184 and 2 as the children

supple knot
loud pebble
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2 is a prime, it can't be decomposed any more. 184 however isn't -- so you continue. You expand every branch until you can't (it's prime)

upper mortar
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does exactly devided by mean like it wont give a decimal result?

loud pebble
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yes

upper mortar
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ooo ok

loud pebble
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remember this: it doesn't matter what factors you choose since in the tree they all end up as primes -- i.e., every number has a UNIQUE prime factorisation

upper mortar
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so 2 is prime?

loud pebble
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yea, it can only be divided by 1 and itself

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so i could divide 368 by 2, which is easy, or jump to 8. it doesn't matter, because i'd end up expanding 8 to be 4*2, then 4 to be 2*2

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have a go at drawing out the tree diagram for 368 for me @upper mortar

upper mortar
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alr

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huh

loud pebble
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why did u start at 512?

upper mortar
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i started at 2

loud pebble
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you started at the bottom?

upper mortar
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ye

loud pebble
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ah no, you start at the top. whatever number you are trying to find the prime factorisation of, you start there

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then decompose it however you wish -- it doesn't matter how you divide it up, just keep expanding until you are left with only primes. every number has a unique prime factorisation so you'll always get the same answer, however you divide it up

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(The easy cheat way if you spot an even number is to just divide by 2 which is why that happened with 368.)

upper mortar
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so i hit 23

loud pebble
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yea, you expanded down by dividing by 2 multiple times until you got 23

upper mortar
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now i count how many times i stepped down and do 2^steps_down

loud pebble
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so you know that 368's unique prime factorisation is 23 * (2 * 2 * 2 * 2 )

upper mortar
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ye

loud pebble
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which is 23 * 16

upper mortar
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will that always work?>

loud pebble
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so sqrt(368) = sqrt(23)*sqrt(16)

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yes, always

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if you get nowhere, i.e., you start with an odd number but there are no factors (not jsut that you can't think of any) you started with a prime, and you can go no further

upper mortar
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then what do u do

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u just cant do it

loud pebble
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nothing. if someone said that i needed to simplify sqrt(23) I would say I can't. it's a prime. 23 has no other factorisation

upper mortar
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and why do we not just convert it into decimal

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why stop at 23 when u could do 23/2

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11.5

loud pebble
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it serves no purpose. saying sqrt(23/2) is not precise

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we are looking for factors, integer factors

upper mortar
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but cant u still count step down

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so youd have 11.5 *2

loud pebble
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11.5*32 = 368

upper mortar
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huh?

loud pebble
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remember, we are trying to split up 368

upper mortar
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im saying for 23

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like why cant i say 23/2

loud pebble
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oh right

upper mortar
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11.5

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and keep going

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can we not do 2^steps_down

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and so then we cant simpify

loud pebble
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well you'd go forever, and that leads nowhere useful, and the whole point of the tree is to find prime INTEGER factors. if we were to then report back to someone and say 'well, sqrt(368) = 2*sqrt(11.5 * 2)' that's not simplified anything; it's uglier than before

upper mortar
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but its still equal

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so its not 'incorrect' its just not useful for a human to do

loud pebble
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yes and no

upper mortar
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wdym

loud pebble
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we are dealing with surds here, i.e., things which sometimes do not have finite decimal representations

upper mortar
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if its equal it cant be incorrect, if people dont do it why are you claiming its useful to humans

loud pebble
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saying that sqrt(368)=4*sqrt(23) is very useful

upper mortar
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true

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oh im specifically claiming decimals

loud pebble
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saying sqrt(368)=4*sqrt(2)*sqrt(11.5) is not

upper mortar
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ye ok that makes sense

loud pebble
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it's convention to never allow decimals in surds

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we express in integer form

upper mortar
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but if somebody was trained to recognize 'surds' it could be useful to them

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but no1 else

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so we developed a standard

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just learn the easy stuff, dont simplify further

loud pebble
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i kind of get what you're pulling at, but no

upper mortar
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no to which part?

loud pebble
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surds are useful because of simplification and later use; if i gave you the expression 2/sqrt(2), i can change that to be 2*sqrt(2)/2, which may be more useful.

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if i gave you sqrt(368) there is nothing to do with it. but if i said 4*sqrt(23) you now have a 4, which is divisible by 2, and could lead to further simplification in an equation later

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the point being: sqrt(368) has no visible common factors with anything, until I split it up

upper mortar
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and sqrt 369 cant be simplified with prime nums right

loud pebble
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yea it can

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it's 3*sqrt(41)

upper mortar
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oh right

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what num cant

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i thought u said 1

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367?

loud pebble
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anything that's already prime can't be split further

upper mortar
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right 23

loud pebble
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or a square, because you could just square root it. e.g., sqrt(4) is just 2

upper mortar
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so we are just going off the basis that its really just not worth the effort

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not helpful enough

loud pebble
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wdym?

upper mortar
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to go past prime

loud pebble
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no it's not possible to get an integer factor past the primes

upper mortar
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yes

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and decimals are too anoying to work with

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so just stop at prime

loud pebble
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put it this way: you are conflating two problems:

  1. Given some surd, simplify it
  2. Find the prime factors of a number

Finding the prime factors is a helpful and quick method to find simplified surds. Not the only method, just one of them

upper mortar
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yeah thats understandable

loud pebble
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Prime factors are perfect in this case because every number has one prime factorisation

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(and it will contain a lot of powers of 2, so you can square root things to get integers)

upper mortar
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yep

loud pebble
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often times you won't draw any tree; you'll just recognise it. If I said sqrt(32), I'd know that's sqrt(16*2) and therefore 4*sqrt(2)

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if i were using that in some equation, i can now simplify with that 4. previously i couldn't do anything, it was just on its own, sqrt(32)

upper mortar
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yeah i think that all makes sense to me now

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and the theory behind it

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appriciate you talking about the theory behind it

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a lot of people have been telling me that u do it that way 'because it works'

loud pebble
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np, just remember that they're 2 different things. at he heart of it is the desire to make things easier to deal with. the way we do that (not the only way) is to split it up into primes.

upper mortar
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but now i feel i have a broader knowledge of it

loud pebble
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oh i hate that. i always like to understand

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np

upper mortar
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anyways ty, have a good day

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reef pilot
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Can anyone tell me if these row operations are correct

reef pilot
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am i allowed to do like R1 - R2 -> R2?

upper nova
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you can do that

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because that would satisfy rule 3 which is being able to add a multiple of one row to another

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which would mean R1 + (-1)R2 -> R2

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Kk

upper nova
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you could also do something like R1 - R2 -> R1 because that is equivalent to R2 - R1 -> R1 , -R1 -> R1

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gilded wharf
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Hi guys, could you please check if I answered question a and b correctly?

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midnight dirge
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seems right i guess

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i mean its just trivial multiplication

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Are u certain @midnight dirge ?

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...

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?

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Ok, so how do I answer c?

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What is the area scale factor?

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serene wren
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Help on these two

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lone ravine
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,rotate

woven radishBOT
lone ravine
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For the first one try to write everything in terms of 3^x

serene wren
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ok

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Its right?

lone ravine
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I can't read it

serene wren
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Better?

lone ravine
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Yes

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Can you solve for x now?

serene wren
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Yes, but its in this part that in stuck

lone ravine
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If you multiply by -3/25 what do you get?

serene wren
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-45/25

lone ravine
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Can 3^x be negative (for real x)?

serene wren
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no

lone ravine
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So no solution

serene wren
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oh ok

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About the other

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I already did this

lone ravine
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lone ravine
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,rotate

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lone ravine
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How did the 3.5^x turn into a 5^x?

serene wren
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Wait, where?

lone ravine
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Like what did you do to get to step 2?

serene wren
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Only separated them

lone ravine
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Is 3.5 3*5 where you live?

serene wren
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3.5

lone ravine
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Like 5^2.5^x= 5^[x+2] ????

serene wren
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yes

lone ravine
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I've never seen such a notation

serene wren
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The point is the multiplication

lone ravine
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And how do you write 3+1/2

serene wren
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the same way

serene wren
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srry, im making exchange in other country

lone ravine
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I think it is correct. You should probably doublecheck with calculator

serene wren
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k

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thanks for the help

lone ravine
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Did you solve for x with log ?

serene wren
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no

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didnt learn log yeat

lone ravine
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So devide by 508/25

serene wren
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ok

lone ravine
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What do you get then?

serene wren
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20,32

lone ravine
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Try again 1256/508*25

serene wren
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61,8110

lone ravine
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Yes

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So 5^x = 61.8110

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If you want to know x you type in log base 5(61.8110)

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log is the reverse of the exponential function

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Like arctan to tan

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So x=2.562

serene wren
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Oh ok

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Makes sense now

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pale solar
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Need help on this one i need to solve for X

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restive river
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you would combine like terms which would be 5x and -4x since they both have x in them

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soo

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5 - 4

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1

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y=1x

pale solar
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Thanks i wasnt too sure cause it a moving around equations question

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Wait

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I dont think thats how it works

restive river
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o-

pale solar
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Cause how would i put a 1x

restive river
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is this algebra

pale solar
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Yea

restive river
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I WOULD ASSUME but dont trust me

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ping helpers

pale solar
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Ok

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Do i say @ helpers cause i feel rude if i do cause i ping multiple people at a time

scarlet peak
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Don't @ for 15 minutes

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if y=X then x=y

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It's like 6=3x2 and 3x2=6

pale solar
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Oh yeah cause 1=x

scarlet peak
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Yeh

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hardy trail
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Hello everyone, I am a programmer and I am trying to implement a system in which a random price between $5000 and $50,000 is calculated from a scale of 0 to 100

hardy trail
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I would like to use a graph like this

whole otter
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what

hardy trail
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And I'm wondering if someone could help me with coming up with a formula to map a graph like that

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For example given the scale (t) = 50 it will output $15000

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review hw. How do I find the inverse of this function? I can show that it's odd. but I do not know about the inverse part.

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Is this histogram skewed left or right in your opinon?

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does a negative squared equal positive or negative

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Positive

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so what would it depend on

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If you have parentheses

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Because $-2^2 \neq (-2)^2$

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Which is what they asked for

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so like, if it doesn't have the parenthesis, would it equal positive or negatvie

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It depends on if it has parentheses

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In the first case, in essence you squared a positive number and multiplied it with -1

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I need help with number 2 and 4 I can’t come up with any linear equations that relates to the problem.

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For the differential equation y'''+6y''+12y'+8y=0 you can get the soln y=e^{-2x} by trialling y=e^{cx}. Wolfram Alpha gives two other solutions of the form x e^{-2x} and x^2 e^{-2x}, what theory provides these solutions?

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(the phase to look up for this is "solving homogenous linear differential equations")

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Using logarithmic differentiation here.. I feel like I messed up the log rules in regards to the ln(xtan(x))

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looks valid to me

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okay thank you! yeah i did ln(ab) = lna+lnb for that

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should be d/dx ln(y) on the left

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I'm struggling with how to write an epsilon-delta limit proof. My textbook doesn't include any fully written examples, so here's my best go at it. Does this make sense?

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someone please explain

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yes i get that

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how does this turn into that

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would i use product and sum

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on 4sin7x and cos5x first

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no trig identities applied

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^

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i thought you were talking about the cos(7x-x) stuff lol

fast helm
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i dont even get them moving the factors around

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yk how $a \times b \times c=b \times a \times c=c \times a \times b$

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messy circle creation

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it's basically that logic just with trig stuff

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yes

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but i dont get why they put 2cos5x and 2sin7x

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so like the intuition?

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because here, there's a factor of 1/2

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so they multiplied the product of the 2 trig functions by 2

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so that when multiplied with said 1/2, it gives 1

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yes

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yk

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from 2nd to 3rd line

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what happens to the 2

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in 2sin7x

lunar harbor
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they rewrote $4=2 \times 2$ then rearranged the factors

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messy circle creation

fast helm
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yes ik

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i mean 3rd to 4th

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the 2 'cancels' with the 1/2 in the identity

fast helm
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o

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could you do the whole equation as 4cos5x(sin7xsinx)

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how do you do this

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There's clearly missing info

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nope

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is is even possible

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Is that a test

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ye

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past papers

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Homework, sure, but tests, no

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Hi, I have two questions. Im going over ACT math problems from a test right now.

1: A package of candy contains pieces each of which is 1 of 6 possible colors: brown, red, green, yellow, orange, and blue. In each package, 1/3 of the pieces are brown and the remaining pieces have an even distribution of the other 5 colors. What is the probability that a piece drawn random from the package is red?
options:
1/15
2/15
1/6
1/5
2/3

For this one, I don't quite understand why the answer wouldn't be 1/6. the answer is 2/15, but I don't quite know how to get there.

2: In the complex plane, consider the segment whose endpoints are the points corresponding to -6+3i and 2-7i. The midpoints of this segment corresponds to which of the following complex numbers?
-4 -4i
-4+5i
-2-2i
-2+2i
4+5i

I got B, -4+5i, but the answer is -2-2i. I don't quite understand how they got there either.

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for the second one, I just simplified 3i to -i, and -7i to i. I dont think that got me anywhere though

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it just asks the average of two numebrs

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-6 ... -2 ... 2

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ohh wait so

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-6+2/2

topaz axle
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yes

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-2

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and then 5i is the same as 2i

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so -2-2i

topaz axle
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no, for the imaginey part

round current
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Ah, I was trying to find the midpoint by finding the distance between them. So i got 8/2 and 10/2.

topaz axle
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you do the avergae of two numbers

round current
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Thank you!

topaz axle
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for the first problem, you divide 2/3 by 5

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you divided 1 by 6 instead

round current
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I understand where you got 2/3 from and I understand where you got the five from, but why would you divide 2/3 by 5?

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that's what division means

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is it because 2/3 is the odds of a non brown one and 5 are the amount of colors?

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i think i understand

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there are equal amouints of each of 5 colors, and they add up to 2/3

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thank you! sometimes I just need to talk through it to get a solid understanding of it.

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im looking to find the inverse of $F(n)=\int_0^n{\frac{e^t}{t}dt}$

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Ars Gratiae

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is there a well known answer to this question?

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correction: the lower bound should be 1 $F(n)=\int_1^n{\frac{e^t}{t}dt}$

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$F(n)=\int_1^n{\frac{e^t}{t}dt}$

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with the appropriate boundary conditions

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i meant inverse as in inverse function, not $F^{-1}$ which one does your solution satisfy?

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F^-1 is the inverse

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i meant inverse as in e^x is the inverse of the natural logarithm

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yes

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i defined F^-1 as the inverse

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i would have simply written 1/F if i meant reciprocal

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i looked quickly through your answers and didn't take the time to understand them at first

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wait

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so $f^{-1}(x) \neq \frac{1}{f(x)}$ ?

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usually no

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it would be obvious from context which one was being referring to tho

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if i write

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,w tan^-1

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thats the definition of arctan

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aka inverse tan

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ahh

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its unfortunate notation

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but there's no other way to refer to inverses

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you can always represent reciprocals as 1/f

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but you cant do that with inverses

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true

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Ars Gratiae

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to be written as*

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anyone in this channel

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ignore what the question in screenshot is asking for, i included it just because it provide given information
is this circles largest angle 288 meaning this triangles angle is 72?
according angle/360 = sector area/circle area
aka x/360 = 20pi/ 25pi
the outcome is 288 making the triangles O angle 72 right?

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Fourth time's the charm. Any clues on how to solve this?

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I saw you post this last night

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I spent some time looking at it but never found a pattern that works for both of the first two

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I found one for first two, but it doesn't work for the third, cause the options...

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Result:

27
earnest lodge
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same but mine sort of disregards the bottom right corner--

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,calc 9*4-2^2

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Result:

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earnest lodge
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,calc 8*2-1^1

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Result:

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earnest lodge
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,calc 15*4-2^2

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Result:

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Guys when I'm using Rolle's Theorem how am i supposed to check if the function is differentiable at a closed interval [a,b]

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you're supposed to check that it is differentiable at every point in said interval

astral finch
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lets say a function $y=x^2/3 + 1$

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tren-setter go-getter

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pseudo basin
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no

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but also, rolle's only requires your function to be differentiable in the open interval (a,b). differentiability at a and at b is actually irrelevant for rolle's.

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owh

pseudo basin
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anyway, the function $\frac{1}{3}x^2 + 1$ is actually differentiable everywhere

astral finch
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mb

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no i meant $x^\frac{2}{3} + 1$

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tren-setter go-getter

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if you meant $x^{2/3}$ then type $x^{2/3}$

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anyway

astral finch
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what is your interval

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(-4,4)

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ok

astral finch
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is this a polynomial?

pseudo basin
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no

astral finch
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It needs to be an integer?

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to be raised in an integer*

pseudo basin
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the exponents on x in a polynomial need to be nonnegative integers

astral finch
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so lets say

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back to my function

restive river
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thats the cube root of x², n-th roots are differentiable too, but only for positive x hmm

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$x^{2/3}$ fails to be differentiable at 0

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how would u know that

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do u need to graph it?

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or is there a way to check

pseudo basin
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you can verify this by writing out the limit definition

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on my limit where does x tend

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x->xo?

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Can u write an example?

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depends on which limit you do

astral finch
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Yeah lets say i want to check

pseudo basin
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if you want to go along with what i said,

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then you want to check differentiability at 0

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Yeah

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i didnt know

restive river
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x_0 = 0

astral finch
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that its not differentiable at 0

pseudo basin
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you didn't know what

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then write out the limit definition in the general case, work through it in the general case, and look for things that can go wrong

restive river
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oh wait they are basically the same for x_0 = 0

astral finch
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just to make sure its the one ik

pseudo basin
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$\lim_{x \to c} \frac{x^{2/3} - c^{2/3}}{x - c}$

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pseudo basin
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determine all values of c for which this limit fails to exist

astral finch
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x!=0?

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idk

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how can x tend to c

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if its x - c

restive river
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in a limit you can assume x≠c

astral finch
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ye but why does x tend to c

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ik a different formula

restive river
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you want to evaluate f'(c)

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or at least try to see if f'(c) exists

astral finch
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YeaH

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how would i solve

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that limit

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x-c=0 right?

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but x^2/3 - c^2/3 = 0 when x=c too

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so you have to evaluate the limit in other ways

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How can i evaluate the limit in another way

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dont tell me LH

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probably LH tho right?

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because its in the form 0/0

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arctic field
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no that would be circular logic

astral finch
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so i can do the prime of upper and lower?

astral finch
arctic field
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you use this limit in the derivative of x^2/3

grim burrow
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the more correct way would be applying your knowledge of algebra

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im sure you have solved limits like these before studying derivatives

astral finch
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well i can do (x-c)^2/3

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yeah but the limit tends to c

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so im a bit confused

restive river
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can you see why it doesnt exist for c=0?

grim burrow
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bad algebra, and that's just my hint, good luck with it

astral finch
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like should i practice algebra too?

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if i cant see the solution?

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idk i can break the x^2/3 and c^2/3 apart

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but how does that help

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no, im saying your way of manipulating x^(2/3)-c^(2/3) into (x-c)^(2/3) is bad algebra

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if you are really clueless, remember how you can factor a^3-b^3

arctic field
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no, it's pretty incorrect

astral finch
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yeah thats what i thought

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sorry guys

restive river
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why a³-b³?

arctic field
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denominator

astral finch
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i can factor it as x^2/3-2/3

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||difference of squares on top||

astral finch
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and that gives as x^0

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||difference of cubes on bottom||

astral finch
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so 1

arctic field
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||cancel the singularity||

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is Rolles theorem supposed to be like this?

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or am i missing something

arctic field
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no

astral finch
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somehow this became a question of showing differentiability

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im studying rolles theorem

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Yeah

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for a rolles theorem

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the interval (a,b) needs to be differentiable right?

arctic field
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yes

astral finch
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And im curious how to check if this interval is differentiable without graphing it

astral finch
arctic field
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well

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from normal differentiation rules

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you know that the derivative is 2/3 (x^-1/3)

astral finch
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yeah

arctic field
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so that suggests theres a problem at 0

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then you check if there actually is a problem

astral finch
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Why

restive river
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well only problem was n-th roots arent differentiable at x=0

astral finch
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how does it suggest theres a problem at 0

arctic field
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well how do you evaluate x^-1/3 at 0

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Im really confused rn

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whats the problem if my derivative is 0

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$x^{-1/3} = \frac 1 {x^{1/3}}$

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arctic field
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your derivative is not 0

astral finch
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You mean x cant be 0 because if written in that way the fraction is undefined?

arctic field
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well x^-1/3 is always undefined at 0 no matter how its written

astral finch
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Yeah mb

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So

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that way

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ik theres a problem at 0?

arctic field
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yes

astral finch
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Lets say u were to solve that problem without graphing it

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u would find the derivative of f(x) and see if theres a problem?

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yes

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Okay i think i understand now!

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I want to apply the Rolles Theorem

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how to check if its differentiable

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when i checked i found the derivative of f(x) and found at -4 i have a problem

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the video says that f(x) its differentiable at [0,4]

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x is differentiable and sqrt(4 - x) is differentiable at (0, 4)

astral finch
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owh nvm

inland seal
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therefore x*sqrt(4-x) is also differentiable at (0, 4)

astral finch
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u are right

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My problem was that it is not differentiable at -4

inland seal
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Why not?

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It isn't at 4, not -4

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Yeah sorry

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at 4

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not -4

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sorry

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all good

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thank u u helped me big time

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hello, im learning about newtons second law of motion, and im trying to calculate the total acceleration from the x acceleration and the y acceleration

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i got the formula as sqrt(xAcceleration^2 + yAcceleration^2)

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thats my formula

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that i got using pythagorean theorem

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but then that makes me question if that really works, since my xAcceleration is negative, squaring it makes it positive

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would that give the right answer?

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negative or positive is just a direction thing

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so yes it does work

short barn
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hmm, but wouldnt it be in the wrong direction then?

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you are not calculating a vector though

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you calculate a "magnitude" of a vector

short barn
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yeah but a magnitude can still be negative or positive

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doesn't squaring it make us lose that info?

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i guess you have to lose it

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it doesnt matter i guess?

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hey so I solved this doing what did i do wrong?

ax^2 + axb + ab^2 = 3x^2 + 36x + c

a = 3 because ax^2 = 3x^2
b = 12 because axb aka 3xb = 36x

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meaning c = 432

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hi there! I'll go through what I have with each of them + my questions.

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So for this one, what I started with is I did 40+120+50+10+5 because there were 10 votes for 4, 40 for 3, so on, and I divided that by 5 which got me 2.5. I wrote that in as the answer, however, the answer is 2 and 4/9ths. I dont quite know how they got to that answer.

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So for this one, I multiplied the 1/y on the bottom and the 1/x so they would have a common denominator, giving me x-y/xy. since it was a double fraction, I multiplied the top by that and got x^2-1/x-y. That was wrong as well, the answer is just x

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and I really just dont know how to go about doing 59 and 60.

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for 60 i noticed there were 4 radi per side of the triangle so i got 4r for each side, and then 2r for the base so i did a lil trig and got the height as 2r

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so 4rx2r is 8r^2

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divided by 2 is 4r^2

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and oh shit yeah thats the answer

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4r^2 root three

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Hello I don't really have a homework to be helped with but I need to review for a short quiz about permutations

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For these kind of questions, i'm confused at where the predicates and quantifiers are supposed to be indicated. I referenced youtube videos but most of them only show simple statements like "A kid is angry"

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how would i factor/solve this limit? I’m not really good at factoring, but I’m trying to figure out how to factor this limit.

neon aspen
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tanx - tanx.cosx = tanx(1 - cosx)

wanton scarab
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ok question

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what happens to tanx(x) though?

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like i just don't understand how it's factored

neon aspen
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you can divide the numerator and denominator by tanx

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then tanx cancels

worthy magnet
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I suspect there's a misprint

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why is it tan(x) everywhere else but tan x there

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u get what I'm saying?

wanton scarab
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yea i understand that, right now i'm just trying to understand how factoring with trig functions works, but i'll ask my classmates if that's a misprint.

neon aspen
worthy magnet
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replace all tan x with n

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factoring still holds

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it's the identities that are different

wanton scarab
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so why is tanx being multiplied onto cosx

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is that an identity?