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You need to solve the right equations, according to the right circumstance
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Pull out 2 from the equation so it's 2(27x^3 + 125y^3)
Notice that 27 and 125 are cube of 3 and 5
Combine it with their x and y then u can use the normal cubic formula
For the questions ur answering u donโt hafta factor
Well for that one u do
ok!!!
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I know this isn't strictly maths, but anyone who does hsc physics or has a physics background I would like some assistance pls
the formula they use is only correct for very small values of theta, but in this case it is very large
and you cannot use d sin(theta) = m lambda
as the slit size is much too small
so how would you properly work this out?
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for applications of trignometry when should I use sin theta/ tan theta
think he means sin t or cos t
maybe asking for the difference of sin and tan?
Nooo
I mean
Sin and tan are different and if the question doesnโt say which one to use how should we know that we gotta use tan or sin
do you have an example?
by definition of what the trig functions do
obviously
and what you're given / trying to find
depends on question.
if they're both applicable, you can use either
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Is this astronomy?
i think you mean astrology
I mean constellation names doesn't always mean horoscope
is it correct
why would the mathematics discord know?
lmfaooooooooooooo
coz i remember a mod said that
what? lmoa
is it constelations or astrology
Im not sure if the websites
bc if its astrology
I used is correct
ok no need to hound her for the question
its science
LMFAOOOOOOO
in my science class yes it is
astrology = science ๐ ๐ ๐
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it's not astrology i was joking jeez
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ok wait it looks like astronomy now that i think about it
rightttt
why are you asking here this is math discord not science discord
ask google
thats chill then lol
ye
I apologise
But yeah, i think google or a more specific discord would be more appropriate
I guess u can brute force google it for each constellation but yeah we can't answer ur question since it's not about math
or you could just let the question sit here for longer than 2 minutes without spamming the channel
but is it correct
can't answer ur question since it's not about math
lmao
Idk if the sites i used in google are right
by that logic you should never google anything, you'll never know if the sites are factually correct
yea that's definitely what that logic says
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i just wanted to clear a simple/silly doubt
this is true right?
Yep
Correct
I don't think so
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there is but nvm ig
its false for two cases, b = c = 2 or a = 1
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i did say, ask how she was doing but didn't get an answer back xd
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it's fine, she told others she was fine so
hlounge is going really fast rn
yeah, many things should be in help channel tho
eh
the last line of ur bio is a quote from koro sensei in the anime 'assassination classroom'
off-topic
idt ppl'd appreciate me asking random questions abt metrics and inner products and inf-dim hilbert spaces
never watched but i trust you
lmao you're not dw
no i mean, theres no prob to ppl asking help questions there ofc, it's just a matter of having maybe more advices in help channel
cuz some aren't helpful
but they have many knowledge
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Let S,E,N,D,M,O,R,G,L,Y be distinct digits (0 - 9) and SEND + MORE + GOLD = MONEY, where SEND is a four digit number with S in the thousands, E in the hundreds, and so on. find the value of every variable
Can their leading digit be 0?
the question didnt say
Okay, so maybe try to sub in M = 0, 1, 2. Honestly just do 1 or 2, cause one can safely assume leading digits are not 0
alright, try M=2
sorry if this is not helping btw, but usually these type of problems require some creative thinking + noticing bounds
its alrihgt
actually I think you should show how M=2 does not work
quirky type maths
oh yeah
the maximum of x + y + 2 is 20 if x = y = 9 but x,y are distinct
so m = 1
yes, assuming leading digits cannot be 0, but like I said before this is a safe assumption
now sub this in
i still cant get anywhere๐ญ
so we get SEND + ORE + GOLD = 9000 + ONEY, right?
yeah
S + G is 7,8,9
oh
<@&286206848099549185> someone with python brute fforce this pretty please๐๐๐๐
this is a weird cryptogram cause I feel like there might be many solutions
huh
idk, now maybe try S+G = 9
this was the practice questions in a number theory olympiad book๐ญ
(the practice questions dont have any solutions in the book for some reason)
Can you send the question?
Let S,E,N,D,M,O,R,G,L,Y be distinct digits (0 - 9) and SEND + MORE + GOLD = MONEY, where SEND is a four digit number with S in the thousands, E in the hundreds, and so on. find the value of every variable
||{'S': 2,
'E': 8,
'N': 5,
'D': 6,
'M': 1,
'O': 3,
'R': 4,
'G': 9,
'L': 7,
'Y': 0,
'SEND': 2856,
'MORE': 1348,
'GOLD': 9376,
'MONEY': 13580}||
this is python
I think thereโs many solutions
there probably is idrk
found this online: https://www.pleacher.com/mp/puzzles/mathpuz/mobcry4.html
no way
There could be.
We need to use computational power ig
theres definetly a way to use logic for this tho
uhh i gotta go, do i leave it here for you guys to talk about it or?
Assume M = 1.
SEND + 1ORE + GOLD = 1ONEY
funny thing is that SEND + MORE = MONEY I think has only one solution given the constraints. Itโs covered by mind your decisions too
lmao
python yields like 10 sols now
i gotta verify if it's correct
yeah, idt this is easy to do by hand
you could probably go over all the cases
but its painful
Since SEND and MORE are four-digit numbers, ( S ) and ( M ) cannot be zero.
( M ) must be 1 because MONEY is a five-digit number.
(S + M + G ) Carry over to the ten-thousands place. Since ( M = 1 ), ( S + 1 + G ) must be at least 10.
So, ( S + G โฅ 9 ).
( E + O + O ) Should carry over to the thousands place.
( O ) is a digit, ( E + 2O ) is at least 10.
( N + R + L ) Must carry over to the hundreds place.
So, ( N + R + L โฅ 10 ).
( D + E + D ) Carries over to the tens place.
Meaning ( 2D + E โฅ 10 ).
Solving,
( S = 9 )
( E = 5 )
( N = 6 )
( D = 7 )
( M = 1 )
( O = 0 )
( R = 8 )
( G = 3 )
( L = 4 )
( Y = 2 )
Values are then:
SEND= 9567
MORE = 1085
GOLD= 3647
MONEY = 14299
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Let $E$ be an elliptic curve. How do we show that the "multiplication by n" morphism is a finite morphism?
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\begin{align*}
ax^2+bx+c &= a(x-\alpha)(x-\beta)\
\cancel{ax^2}+bx+c &=ax^2-a\alpha x -a \beta x +a\alpha\beta\
\text{comparing coefficients}&\
b=-a(\alpha+\beta) &\text{and}\quad c=a\alpha\beta\
\text{now in equation}& a(x-2)^2-b(x-2)(x-3)+c(x-3)^2=0\
\text{putting values of c and b}&\
&a(x-2)^2+a(\alpha+\beta)(x-2)(x-3)+a\alpha\beta(x-3)^2=0\
&a[(x-2)^2+(\alpha+\beta)(x-2)(x-3)+\alpha\beta(x-3)^2]=0\
\end{align*}
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thats my progress is but idk how can i solve further
i was about to claim this channel, my question was also polynomials lmao๐ญ. i'll add what input i can
ping me when u re replying
better claim other free channels
I will, but if i can help out with something i will too
sure sir thanks
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You could just go further and solve this with the quadratic formula but that's a pain
Consider this instead
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What is the values of sec^2(3x) + sec(3x) = 2 in the domain 6ฯ<x<9ฯ ? Can someone do it so I can check my answers for a test I did
why don't you show your work and we'll tell you if you're right
I can't since it was on a test, but I can try solving it again
,w sec^2(3x) + sec(3x) = 2
if you just need verification, you can use command like this
,w sec^2(3x) + sec(3x) = 2, 6ฯ<x<9ฯ
How would you do this question though? I just found cos at that domain and then divided it by 3
hmm
I'd substitute u = sec(3x)
u^2 + u - 2 = 0
solve this
and get solutions, say p, q
then solve
sec(3x) = p
sec(3x) = q
this would be my approach
damn i keep missing those in your face substitutions
tbf i wouldnt even do the substitution
yeah
I'd directly just solve the quadratic in terms of sec
yup
but why not ig ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
I did that and got sec as -1/2 and 1
But then the domain kept screwing me up
,w u^2 + u - 2 = 0
yeah, cos would then be the Inverse of those
and then I found the values of cos at those angles
Or I guess found the angles at those values
this would mean
3x = pi + 2npi
3x = pi/3 + 2npi
3x = -pi/3 + 2npi
and with this you should be able to extract the required sols
Those are general solutions then, no?
I think the question was asking for the exact values
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2cos(x)tan(x) = 0
I am thinking I have to subtituta tan(x) for sin/cos as an identity, butn then, can I cancel out the cos at the top and then bottom, but there's the 2 in front of the cos,, so I feel lost
2cos(x)sin(x) / cos(x) = 0
$x s.t f(x)g(x)=0\iff x s.t. f(x)=0 or g(x)=0$
everg
in this case you can cancel the cos, yes
but here you have a singularity lol
so then 2sin(x) = 0 ?
and then divide by 2, but it'd still equal 0, so
so sin(x) = 0
this is the domain or interval or whatever it is called
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Its sequences and series so ig precalc?
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does anyone have any idea on how to do part a and part b?
do i just integrate fx
fy and fz?
That's usually the idea. You integrate fx, that gives you some expression but your constant is a constant in terms of y,z, since any function of y and z is constant with respect to x.
So then you can redifferentiate in y and compare with the y coordinate of F
When you integrate the x coordinate with respect to x, you'll get like
f(x,y,z) = (whatever you integrate) + g(y,z)
But you need to know g(y,z)
So you differentiate with respect to y, and compare with F's second coordinate
i differnetaite what and compare it to 2nd component of F
You want to find $f(x,y,z)$ such that $\vec{F} = \Delta f = (f_x, f_y, f_z)$.
If you integrate the first coordinate, then that should correspond to integrating $f_x$.
You'll get $f(x,y,z) = \int f_x(x,y,z) dx + g(y,z)$ for some unknown function $g(y,z)$.
You need to figure out what $g(y,z)$ is (because we want an expression for $f(x,y,z)$), so you can differentiate that with respect to y (this means you'll also be differentiating g(y,z)).
This gives you an expression for $f_y(x,y,z)$ which you can compare with the second coordinate of $F$ (in particular you can identify what $g_y$ is).
Then it's a matter of doing the whole thing again (integrate with respect to y, you'll be left with an unknown function $h(z)$, differentiating with respect to $z$, identitying $h'(z)$ and finding $h(z)$.
Azyrashacorki
kind of
im confused on steps
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am i being stupid, or is my answer already right?
1 - p^5 is the probability of X happening at least once
X does not happen at least once is 1 - (1 - p^5) = p^5
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could som 1 help me rq
this is my problem and I was wondering if there are 5 real zeros
its odd negative, I believe there are 5 distinct zeros and 2 relative maximum's or maybe 3 I am not sure if the one farthest to the right rises again
yellow, is anyone there?
i think there would be 3 relative maxes
bc of the right-most one
since f'(x)=0 at that point
wait no
that would be a min
yes
alright thanks for your help man
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a) increasing at (-2,0) and (5,โ). decreasing at (-โ,2) and (0,5)
b) increasing at (-โ,-1) and (-3,โ). decreasing at (-1,3)
c) local min at x=-2 and x=5 because they cross the x axis from negative to positive
d) local max at x=0 because it crosses x axis from positive to negative
e) x=-1 and x=3
I need help with part f please
have you done integrals
no
at x=0 y=100?
wdym apply characteristic?
what you found a-e
is a-e correct? im not sure if i did those correctly
abs max?
would it be something like this?
that could work
make sure not to make the curves too pointy bc someone might think its an absolute value
got it, will look better on paper
other than that looks good
if the graph kept going before -3 is it gonna be be above the x acxis?
yup
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Am I doing correct so far?
Why is f' = fยฒ ?
Uhh it's just a given condition
Ah alright
not sure about f'''
Yea I doubted that either but idk where's wrong
should be 6f^2 * f'
since it's 2 * (f f f' + f f' f + f' f f)
or use power rule
f^3 differentiates to 3f' f^2
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Ooh but they asked to find the recurrence relationship๐ญ
I know how to do in this way
But I'm really unfamiliar with recurrence
I have no idea how to get this recurrence relationship then
Unless you already know what the n-th derivative looks like
Ok ty!
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Let d be a metric on $\Omega$. Then let f be continous on the positive real numbers, concave and strictly increasing also f(0)=0. show that the function $g(x,y)=f \circ d(x,y)$ is a metric for $\Omega$.
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Most of the definitions a metric has a have are obvious except the triangle inequality, I mean
g(d(x,y)) < g(d(x,z)+d(y,z)) is obvious
But this problem would make more sense if f was convex, just jensen of karamata. Any ideas?
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hey guys
4sin(2pix) where x [0,2]
dilation from y axis by factor of 2, translated 3 units right.
What is the new domain and rule? I wanna check my answer
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It should be $y'=8 \sin(2\pi(x'-3))$
cristorenzo99
Where the transformation is:
$$\begin{cases}
y'=2y\
x'=x+3
\end{cases}$$
cristorenzo99
isnt dilation from the y axis within the brackets
i though dilation in the x axis went in front of sin - effected amplitude
I wrote a transformation from (x,y) [old variables] to (x',y') [new variables]
the A is affected by the dilation in the x axis
werent we given dilation in the y axis though?
like if its stretched from the y axis wont it affect the period?
so if its still 2pi the period is the same
Ah, maybe I didn't understand what were you saying
A dilatation from the y axis you mean the y axis remains still and you move the x axis?
Then I swapped the equations
I find the law of the transformation for the new variables (x'), find x from this relation as a function of x' and sub x
I believe so. Let me draw the graph to be sure
I believe this is the correct answer:
it should be stretched outwards
from the y axis
the pink one is dilated from the x axis isnt it
The y coordinates of the pink one are the double of the green one
yea i get what u did
but based off of the wording
'dilation from y axis'
i thought it meant u stretch it outwards from the y axis, therefor effecting the x values
You wrote "in", not "from" here
sorry i meant to write from
i didnt think it made a difference so i didnt edit it
im sorry thats my bad
did that change ur entire interpretation of the question ๐
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Dilatation from the y-axis by a factor of 2: $x'=2x$
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Translate x units by 3: $x'' = x'+3$
Putting all together: $x'' = x'+3 = 2x+3 \Rightarrow x''-3 = 2x \Rightarrow x = \frac{x''-3}{2}$
cristorenzo99
so 4sin(pi(x-3))
From $x'' = 2x+3$ you can find the new domain by subbing $x=0$ and $x=2$ and you can find the new law subbing x in $y=4\sin(2 \pi x)$
cristorenzo99
ahhh thats how you find the domain
so [3,7]
thank u so much
sorry it took so long
You're welcome. It was my fault too because English is not my mother language
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a bag contains 6 red balls, 3 yellow balls, and 8 green balls. what is the probability of drawing a red ball and a yellow ball if two balls are drawn at a time ?
this is the second step using the combination formula to calculate the number of ways to draw 1 red ball and 1 yellow ball after determining the total number of balls.
my doubt lies in where the 16 comes from 
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What to do in cases where neither the limit at LHL,RHL or at the point is defined
like say lim x->0 ln(sin 3x)/ln(-sinx)
the domain does not include x = 0+
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so we only consider x = 0-
0- makes the numerator ln(0-)
yesโฆ
Oh wait
so the limit at 0 does not exist
its the same case as when lnx as x tends to -1
the solution given is 1
yes
this function has no value at least near 0 so what are we discussing? limit DNE for sure
and moreover this function doesn't not even exists
it does not has any value
aparently i am wrong
,w graph ln(sin(3x))/ln(-sin(x))
,w lim x->0 ln(sin(3x))/ln(-sin(x))
huh
this guy says that it dne hut aparently there is some values for this function which i wonder how
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โxPx โ Qc, โx(Px โ Qc)
would this serve as a counter-model and if so, why?
D={1,2}
a: 1
c: 2
P={}
Q={2}
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Can someone explain this working to me?
How is this part achieved?
(r - 4)! = (r - 4) * (r - 3)!
just like how 11! = 11 * 10! for instance
4! = 4 * 3!
it's this property used a lot of times at once
i think you mean (r-3)! on the lhs
corrected yeah
brainfart moment
Factorial is every number from 1 to n timed together
So 3! Is 3*2*1
Which is also 3*2!
Wait how is b-8 ! = b-8 x b-9 !
if a variable is too hard to think about, use examples with numbers
so then the pattern is n! = n * (n - 1)!
now just sub n = b - 8
(b - 8)! = (b - 8) * (b - 8 - 1)!
i think it will be much easier to observe if it is addition, but b-9 is smaller than b-8
Ohh
I was thinking why is the number bigger
Forgot about the โ-โ sign

Another one, why is x=24 used to explain why the estimate is unreliable? Is it because it is an extrapolation?
And also if level of significance is not given can I still do hypothesis testing?
Or it it purely impossible
And is it possible to find the level of significance by working backwards somehow?
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Just need slight help
for $\lim n\to\infty \frac{1}{log(1+\frac{1}{n}) ยท a^{n+1}}
How do you simplify for this limit
$\lim_{n \to \infty} \frac{1}{log(1+\frac{1}{n}) \cdot a^{n+1}}$
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slightly confused as to how to simplify this as i can't just plug in the values for log(1+1/n) but =0 for n->inf
also a is a real number
if you were to plug in for n->inf,
0<a<1, 1/0 ยท 0 = inf
|a|>1, 1/0 ยท inf, denominator has an indeterminate form
so how do i fix for this case |a|>1?
(i'm just looking for an appropriate rewrite)
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I don't even know where to start here. They're asking me to find the limit of the series using P-Test, Integral test, or comparison test
which uses the result of a p series
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Hmm, how would I do a comparison with this?
Usually the comparison questions have more terms than what you are comparing it to
Integral test could be a good idea
$\sum_{n = 1}^{\infty} \frac{1}{n}$
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does this diverge
Remember the integral is a continuous sum, and, as such, will be greater than or equal to the original series
Yes, that's the harmonic series
i wasnโt asking you but yes
(oh, sorry, thought you were the guy of the channel)
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I'll leave it to ya then, and sorry for interfering ๐
I'm too late now but yes it divergers
It also diverge bc of p test right
p>=1?
first of all this is just wrong
it diverges for p<= 1
and thatโs not relevant because the numerator is ln(n) not 1
Ahh okay
^^
Yes??
great now let me ask you a follow up question
if we know that the harmonic series diverges and we know that the terms in ln(n)/n are greater than the terms in 1/n what do you think the sum of ln(n)/n will do
Converge?
no
weโre adding terms that are bigger
and are decreasing less rapidly
than a divergent series
if itโs decreasing less rapidly
what makes you think this one would converge
You're right about that. I see why it would diverge now. Why did you use 1/n to compare again?
because we know it diverges and clearly since ln(n) > 1 for n>=3 we know comparison would work great here
alternatively we couldโve used the integral test
since ln(n)/n is positive decreasing and continuous for n>=1
$\int_1^{\infty} \frac{\ln(x)}{x} = \frac{1}{2} (\ln x)^2 \rvert_1^{\infty} \to \infty$
knief
Why is n>=3?
I understand why ln(n)>1 though
well, because ln(1) = 0, ln(2) = 0.693 and those are less than 1 so 1/n would be greater than ln(n)/n in those cases
but this doesnโt affect the divergence
weโre not concerned with the size of the series
itโs not really about how large it is
You too
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I have to differentiate h(x) = ln(1/cos(x) + tan(x)), i dont know how to do it
hmm this is a famous one
Chain rule
$\ln(\sec(x) + \tan(x))$
knief
what is sec(x)
1/cosx
does this stand for sectant
secant
i mean i see what youโre doing but itโs just a bad approach
you should know by memory that
$\frac{d}{dx} \sec(x) = \sec(x)\tan(x)$
knief
and $\frac{d}{dx} \tan(x) = \sec^2(x)$
knief
Do i then do the fraction technique and add it together
it isnโt sec(tan(x))
itโs sec(x) * tan(x)
and it should be + sec^2
not * sec^2
But dont i have to replace the x
wdym
The cahin rule
$\frac{d}{dx} \ln(\sec(x) + \tan(x)) = \frac{\frac{d}{dx} \sec(x) + \frac{d}{dx} \tan(x)}{\sec(x) + \tan(x)}$
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derivative of sec(x) = sec(x) * tan(x)
derivative of tan(x) = sec^2(x)
adding them together yields
sec(x) * tan(x) + sec^2(x)
what do you notice
๐๐
trigonometric functions arent put together in the x, but plussed on the side?
wdym
Like when i do the chain rule, i have f'(g(x))
oh
is sec(x) the derivative of 1/cos(x) or the same thing?
no sec(x) is literally just defined as the reciprocal of cosx
similarly csc(x) is the reciprocal of sinx, 1/sinx
and cot(x) is the reciprocal of tanx, 1/tanx
I dont understand what a reciprocal is, my teacher did not teach me this
Its the opposite
you can call it whatever youโd like
Is then the answer
yes but you can simplify
factor out sec from the chain rule stuff
you should see something cancel
$\frac{\sec(x)\tan(x) + \sec^2(x)}{\sec(x) + \tan(x)} = \frac{\sec(x)(\tan(x) + \sec(x))}{\sec(x) + \tan(x)}$
knief
$ab + a^2 = a(b+a)$
knief
@agile harness can it be reduced any further
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and youโre left with sec(x)
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hello
I'm having trouble finding A as a function of r
I don't know the steps to invert this equation
I know I need to replace r with y and solve for x
or in this case a and r
but i'm not certain where to start
or the precise steps to take
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how do i go about solving for m? already got that n is 6 but i didnt see any guides on that side
alright
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we can deduce this because $\sqrt{12^2 - 6^2} = 6\sqrt{3}$
that too
interesting
so if this problem follows the same layout and all, the same formula is applicable right
20 sqrt 3 is what i got
wait what
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system must be bugged or smth
somethings wrong there i think
isnt it 20 sqrt 3
should be?
yeah
yeah site is def wrong
fr
ty for your help yall
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part c
I tried the rational indicator function where the upper sum is 1 and the lower sum is 0. However these exist as Riemann sums right?
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How to solve this? Do I have to use "L'Hรดpital's rule"?
you can use the strategy of multiplying by the conjugate
Do you mean this:
lim x->0 ((x^2+1)^(1/2)-1)/((x^2+16)^(1/2)-4)* ((x^2+16)^(1/2)+4)/ ((x^2+16)^(1/2)+4)?
At the end it will be 0 in the denominator anyway
yes, then repeat the same strategy for the numertor
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i tried that second one so many times, i just dont seem to understand this
the home work is "disc method" so im trying to use disc method
You use the shell method for that
or you would need to invert
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I want to use the method shown in the first image to finish off the second image but I can't figure out what it happening (with the red arrow)
I know that in the first problem, i have multiples of 3 as coefficients os I could use that, but how would i do that for the second problem here?
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Kindly help.
d = (a, b)
yes
proceed
Can you describe the question in detail?
yes
the question is complete just so you know
well to describe is another thing
So we have to prove that the HCF of the pair (a,b) = the HCF of the pair (a, b + ax)
Where x is an integer
so, d leq (a, b + ax), yes?
?
what
leq means less than or equal to
this problem, do by inclusion
Show d leq (a, b + ax). Show (a, b + ax) leq d
d < (a, b + ax)
from this, you will be able to conclude d = (a, b + ax)
i have provided the easier direction. try the other
ok whatever i call it โinclusionโ but really it is very simple
it means, if x is less than or equal to y and y is less than or equal to x then it follows that x = y
refer here
oh
Can't we do it the following way?
Let K = ax + b
Assume a > b
Where a is the divisor of K and x is the quotient and 0 <= b < a.
Then (K, a) = (a,b)
(ax+b, a) = (a,b)
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i am not sure how to start
@balmy spruce let's start with a simple example
ok
6
how do you know?
the number of ways to group these elements into sets is 3!
these sets if considered as elements form the power set of E
{}, {0}, {1}, {2}, {0,1}, {0,2}, {1,2}, {0,1,2}
yes exactly
but does this also work in general
the power set of a set with n elements has 2^n elements
if there are n elements you can arrange them in n! sets + the whole set and the empty set
n! + 2 is not 2^n
ik
thats why i am trying to find what i am missing here
this question just popped up during this conversation
the power set of a set with n elements has 2^n elements
this is because each element in the set corresponds to a lightbulb that is either on or off, and if the lightbulb is on, you include the element in the subset, and if it's off, then you exclude the element from the set
2^n accounts for all combinations of the lightbulbs being on or off
ah wait its clear now since every element has 2 choices and there are n elements
this yields 2^n subsets
now that ik the number of elements of P(E) which is the power set of E what to do next
we need all the elements that are in A and X at the same time to be all elements of B and no other elements
good
let's look at P(E) again:
{}, {0}, {1}, {2}, {0,1}, {0,2}, {1,2}, {0,1,2}
give me an example where this equation would hold
A={0,1},X={0,2},B={0}
we need B to be the only subset of both A and X other than the sets themselves and the empty set
i thought about this but i am not sure if this is a necessary and sufficient condition
so is it
yes, but let's break this down
you're saying a lot in just one sentence
first off, what do you notice about the size of B?
yes
so here's what we have so far
$B \subseteq A \land B \subseteq X \land B \cap A = B \land B \cap X = B$
Mr. Gamer ๐ต๐ธ
isnt $A\land B$ the same as $A\cap B$ then why did you use different notations
pirateking0723
no
these are 4 different logical statements
joined together with the AND operator
B is a subset of A, AND
B is a subset of X, AND
B intersect A = B, AND
B intersect X = B
oh wait i read it as $B\subseteq (A\land B)\subseteq ...$
pirateking0723
thats why i thought about this
i mean this
yep actually the first two conditions are sufficient my bad
the last two are redundant
$$(B \subseteq A) \land (B \subseteq X)$$
Mr. Gamer ๐ต๐ธ
np dw
ok so thats what we reached till now
these conditions are sufficient but how can we prove that they are necessary
i mean we need to reach logical equivalence not just an implication because thats what the question is asking about
yeah so now we just need to figure out the condition on X.
so find an equation that says X =
actually we need one more condition
asides from what is contained in B, the elements in X and A do not overlap
you and me just forgot to add it here
but if we add it like this will be just restating the equation right ?
$(B \subseteq A) \land (B \subseteq X) \land((A\cap X)\subseteq B)$
pirateking0723
(A-B) intersect (X-B) = {}
ohh yes that works
i have the solution of the professor but i didnt see how it relates to the question at all
so i decided to solve it on my own with some help here
after we are done can you check the professor's solution
ok now we just need to 'solve for X'
yes
$(B \subseteq A) \land (B \subseteq X) \land ((A-B) \cap (X-B) = \emptyset)$
Mr. Gamer ๐ต๐ธ
now we have our necessary and sufficient condition
as an answer to the question is it valid to just drop these
or should i do some explanations
i mean the questions says give a ...
that's up to your professor
so this is probably enough but i will ask the professor about it later
ok so now we have to do this
let me think about it for a sec
AnB is a solution
$A\cap B\subset E$ since $A,B\subset E$ which satisfies the condition that $X\subset E$ and $A\cap (A\cap B)=A\cap A\cap B=A\cap B=B$ since $B\subseteq A$ from here
pirateking0723
but i am not sure if this is the only solution
any subset K of E which contains B will lead to X=KnB being a solution am i right
because in this case KnB=B this leaves AnB which is B
but then comes this again
huh i'm kinda lost here ngl
