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the second photo is my solution
oh lol
HELLO
summation within summation is indeed nasty but once you get the idea, you'll get it
oh, it's the variable that is used to count from the bottom number to the top number
in a summation notation
so the iterator for it is 3 & 4?
cz the summation gets 4 terms then the one inside it gets 3
nah, the iterator is n for the interior summation
no worries
is my solution wronggg ๐
should be wrong... sadly
it's alright
but we need some time
let's take a easier example
i have 2 diff answers because i wasnt sure if i could go over the upper limit for the summation inside
ah...
since following the limits u get 3 terms for the summation inside but 4 terms for the outer summation
$\sum_{n=2}^{3}\left(\sum_{i=1}^{4}(n+i)\right)$
Biscuity
therefore there will be a total of 3ร4=12 terms
like usual calculation, we will tackle the things inside the brackets first
$\sum_{i=1}^{4}(n+i)=(n+1)+(n+2)+(n+3)+(n+4)$
Biscuity
all good till here? @sacred cloud
mhm
now
so u expand the one inside first?
we plug this into the outer one
so, this is =4n+10
now we have simplified it
and we can plug into the outer one
$\sum_{n=2}^{3}\left(\sum_{i=1}^{4}(n+i)\right)=\sum_{n=2}^{3}(4n+10)=(4(2)+10)+(4(3)+10)$
Biscuity
all good?
waitt im analyzing
OKAY im following
so u use the series from the inner summation to do the outer summation?
yep, and that's the way to do it
but note that only the iterator will change
and if otherwise stated, we can treat others as constants
for the outer one, yea
back to the original then?
waitt am i allowed to ask another problem
joke
i dont get how to solve the original one
oh yea, sure, since I'm free right now
cz the iterator for the outer one is inside the inner one
oh
we can treat the outer one as constant inside the inner one
what does that mean
lemme show
sorryyy im not really good with terms in math
it's sum of n=2 to 4 (mr-np)
so we can just do:
(mr-2p)+(mr-3p)+(mr+4p)
that's the inner part
and then u plug that into the outer one?
simplify and plug, yea

this is the other question but i didnt answer it cz i was confused
do tell
OK this, cz i know how u supply other parts and stuff
but i was confused cz the lower limit didnt change
buuut how am i supposed to solve for x if i dont know how the iterator increased/decreased
since thats what we usually do, base it off the iterator / lower limit
with summation sign, we always go from bottom to top, increasing 1 for each step
do i expand and evaluate first? and then solve for x?
omygawd i didnt think of that earlier
THANK YOUUUUU
i get the concept now
yay
i hope u have a nice day/night
you too!
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for #4 a
when it says in terms of r and p
what am i supposed to write
js the equation without the values of the variables?
you need so write something like
(number)r + (another number)p
just the expression, yea
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differentiate with respect to x, i dont understand the working :') answer is 3(1 - 2xcot2x)cosec2x
no ๐ญ thats why i dont understand
i tried using quotient rule but didnt end up with the answer
what do you have after applying quotient rule?
sin2x/sin2x = 1 (you isolate single sin2x from denomintor)
similar for cot
and the second sin2x in denominator becomes cosec
so both answers are the same, just they didnt write it as fractions
theres no multiplication denoted, the x you see is indeed the term x and not the operation
whered u get cot
sry, misread that
cos2x/sin2x
u seperate the sin2x^2 into sin2x . sin2x
yes
then cross out the 3(sin2x) with sin2x?
making (3 - 3x(2cos2x) ). 1/sinx
whats what i got
3x(2cos2x) also needs to be divided by sin2x
so then
coz you have subtraction
(3 - 3x(2cot2x)) . 1/sinx ?
1/sin2x
thats csc2x
thats still different from answer tho right
you take 3 common out of the numerator term, and you make the csc2x, and you get the answer
3(1-x(2cot2x)cosecx
aaah
okay
i didnt know u can make x(2cot2x) into 2xcot2x
ok thanks
np
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Angle incident and reflected ray is 90โฐ then how is this possible shouldn't they use m.m1=-1 in perpendicular lines
Incident and reflected rays aren't perpendicular
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I am not supposed to find it by accurate plotting
I need to solve using coordinate geometry
Why not lol
Because that's too easy lol
- the points are like 153 and 10 ๐
Oh i didnt rlly read it
Oh alr
Can i see ur graph
It's really rough
Thatโs fine
The line which divides is drawn a bit wrong too ;-;
But doesn't really matter tbh
Well
You wanna divide it diagonally from corner to corner
And then u will see your line
How
It can also be a little tilted in the middle
Which u will notice that it matches the 2 sides of ur parallelogram that have the same gradient as that line
Alr lemme try it then brb
Wait
The slopes of AD and BC are undefined ;-;
U can solve it
The difference in the x terms is zero
y 2 - y 1
โโโโ
x 2 - x 1
114-45/ 10-10
Anything divided by zero is undefined ;-;
The options also have 99 , 19 and 9 in the denominator ๐ญ
Do you know some property?
What ;-;
Like if a line divides a parallelogram into 2 congruent parts is it perpendicular to something maybe
(10, 114) and (10, 45) shld be directly above and below eachother
Ik ๐ญ
My graphs are really bad
Same for (28, 153) (28, 84)
Yea ๐ญ
Well that changes everything ๐ญ
I just made one for the general idea
How ;-;
This is a square
Huh?
Probably isn't ๐ญ
Alr wait lemme make a more accurate one
Something like this probably
Okay
So when u draw ur line through the origin to cut it into half
You will notice it goes from corner to corner
(10,45) and (25,153)
Those r ur points
How do we know that for sure tho ;-;
Now solve the gradient
Bc thatโs how congruency works
20/108
Which is uhh
10/54
5/27
Oh btw idk why i said itโs a square/rectangle i just meant u have ur slants on the wrong side (itโs 1am ๐ต)
It's fine lmao
This isn't an option btw ;-;
y2-y1/x2-x1
Mb ๐ญ
Lol
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How ;-;
Wait wtf
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Well this makes the most sense on how to solve it
Yea ig
I'll try by myself ;-;
Thanks for trying to help tho
Sorry ๐ญ let me look at the question again
It's fine if you don't get it btw
I just realised diagonals do divide a parallelogram into equal pieces so you are technically correct ;-;
Thing is there must be one more line somehow
How?
Let me draw it
Ignore it it's pretty bad ๐ญ
Alr ๐
So itโs slightly tilted so u cant just use the 2 corners of the parallelogram.
U have to find the mid point of the parallelogram.
Then ur 2 points r now the mid point and (0,0) since it passes thru the origin
Then solve for gradient
Oh ;-;
Alr lemme do it rq
WAIT
NO WAY
IT WORKED
Hallelujah
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I was trying to imagine the parallelogram based of ur drawing
Bc thatโs how congruency works
youโre welcome!
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can you screenshot how you are inputting your answer?
the values are correct, but not explictly in the specified form
What form should it be like
a+bi
then how would I do it
e.g.
1/2 + i/2
where you have two terms with a + sign separating the real and im term
So it would be 1/2 + i/2 and 1/2 - i/2
yeh
Thank you
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How is this not the answer?
I did it with integration by parts
missed a negative
Where?
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Is my work correct so far? Like am I doing this difference quotient thing correct? (3.a.ii)
Does no seem wrong to me appart from a hยฒ term missing
Are you running into any problems
yes, apart from what jsem pointed out
I gotta change my nickname ๐
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aren't neither of these correct?
if he jumps in the pool his distance should be 0 since it measures distance above the pool
however if he returns to the same platform
his distance should be identical
graph a never reaches 0
graph b never returns to the original point
none of these are correct
It says he climbs back up towards the the platform
Which means he approaches the height of the platform
I picked b anyway
but the wording kind of makes it sound as if
he reaches that point
b is the most correct
i agree
either way I just wanted to make sure if I was missing something
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Where is it missing I donโt see?
this is caluclus 1 if im correct?
uhhh your handwriting is a bit messy what do u exactly need
i seen this a bit late my apolpogies
Uh he said I missed a h^2 idk where I missed it
u did
he is right
1-2h+h^2
here
(1-h)^2 =1-2h+h^2
theres no square on the h
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Solve in whole numbers: a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + d^2 = 2abcd
I tried to make a Viet theorem about some variable, but I didn't make any progress
I think no solution without (0,0,0,0)
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I donโt think there is a non zero solution. I could be wrong though
Took me a sec to find the lemme, but I believe that it is a consequence of
This holds of n>3 too, hence why.
Obviously you canโt easily find the determinant, so youโll have to use some iff properties of the determinant to show that it is 0. Thus only one solution
That solution must be the trivial solution.
I could be wrong tho, I kinda scribbled down some working with very little rigour, but I think it checks out
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hello iโm kinda stuck with question 1c like after where u state that n=k+1
this is what i got up to
and i tried to follow my teachers steps but i ended up getting n^2 as my answer??
looks like you're substituting n=k+1 but it's not substituted correctly on RHS
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do i bring the rhs to the left after?
typically, you'd use the expression corresponding to n=k to prove for n=k+1, going LHS to RHS
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what are you asked to do with this?
factor
difference of cube?
we'll get there! :p
always start with greatest common factors
you can make your life easier
yes
idk
what's the greatest common factor of the two terms?
2
higher!
can you see anything these two have in common?
ding ding ding 
well, you could take it one step further 
both terms share an a too
so the GCF of the two terms is ab^2
try factoring that out, and see what you get
first, can you show me what you got?
the entire expression
im cooked
no :D
like
if I gave you $x + xy$, and asked you to factor, what would you do?
higher!
cooked fr
yea
which expression are you factoring exactly?
yup
try to factor the gcd which is ab^2 out of each term individually
if we want to factor $x^2y^3$ out of $x^4y^7$ we can write it as $(x^2y^3)(x^2y^4)$
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ab^2(a x a x a x a x a x a x a) ( b x b)?
you have created the term $(ab^2)(a^7b^2)$ which is equal to $a^8b^9$ rather than $a^7b^2$
someone1010
you want $a^7b^2 = (ab^2)(a^{\text{something}}b^{\text{something else}})$
someone1010
someone1010
you can use the converse of this to seperate factors
if u wanted to factor $a^2$ out of $a^8$
someone1010
we know that $a^8=a^{2+6}=a^2*a^6$
someone1010
a^7 = a^4+3
yup that is a valid way to seperate them
try to seperate $a^1b^2$ out of $a^7b^2$ now
someone1010
a^6?
someone1010
$ab^2=(ab^2)(1)$ is trivial
someone1010
someone1010
can you see the next step?
where did the other ab^2 come from
someone1010
someone1010
i thought it was kind of trivial that ab^2 was equal to itself so i just factored 1 out
sorry for the confusion
yeas
ykw
imma just ask my teacher
cuz its late and i cant focus rn
thank u for the help
ok, best of luck
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try expanding the square
use the power rule
,tex .exp rules
riemann
ok thanks i got it
what about this one
i tried to do u sub
with u = y^3+y
and i got 20 but its 21/4 somehow
This is the wrong substitution
why
What's du=?
du=3y^2+1*dx
wdym forgot chain rule
derivative of y^3 is 3y^2 times dy
ye ur u isnโt rly gonna help a lot
I first look for stuff inside parentheses or roots to set u to
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excuse me is it a test quiz exam
cause we cant help with those
or is it just a graded assignment
it cant be exam cuz like they have access to technology
*not in the fgorm of calculators
i mean, it can very much so be an online exam
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Start with the definition of E[X] for a discrete random variable
$$ \operatorname{E}[f(X)] = \sum_{x=0}^{\infty} P(X = x) f(x) $$
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X is a standard distribution but idk if you're allowed to assume its prob. generating function
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i got that part
my original plan was using this
X doesn't follow a binomial distribution btw
That's definitely not the same thing
how come?
p^r is a constant for one
yeah ok
If you try your substitution, it's fairly clear
It also helps that I already know what the probability density function is
You don't need to know what distribution it follows anyway to solve it
Although, if you are meant to know, it would make things easier for you
ok sre
One sec, I gotta get on my laptop cuz it's a bit much to expain
Yep
what do we do next?
Lets start by simply moving the constant out of the sum
After which, combine the e^ux and (1-p)^x into one term
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Cool
what we do next?
Do you know the binomial expansion (for negative, rational exponents)?
Well I hope you can follow along
Before we even get there, we need to manipulate the first one I sent
yeah
Lets replace r with -r
yeah
$$ \binom{-r}{k} = \frac{-r(-r-1)(-r-2)...(-r-k+1)}{k!} $$
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ok thats really nice
We have k factors in the numerator, for which we are factor out -1
$$ \binom{-r}{k} = (-1)^k \frac{r(r+1)(r+2)...(r+k-1)}{k!} $$
StrangeQuarkAL
ok i see
great
now, looking back at this formula, what would it look like if we replaced r with r + k - 1
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it would be( r+k-1)(...)(r+k-x)/x!
How did you get the last term (r + k - x)
also for now, keep the k as k, don't replace with x just yet
+1 from last ter
(r + k - 1 ) - k + 1 = r
so (r+k-1)(r+k-2)...(r+2k-2)
read this again
oh right (r+k-1)(r+k-2)...(r)
Yup
Can you see how that's related to this?
its the other way arround
Yes!
Right, C(-r, k) = (-1)^k C(r + k - 1, k)
oh right but we have the (-1)^k
$$ \binom{-r}{k} = (-1)^k \binom{r + k - 1}{k} $$
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the C(r+x-1,x) = C(-r,x) * (-1)^x
Yep
with the k
Wait no
oh yeah nvm
that shouldn't be a k
look at what you've replaced
yup
that's all good
$$ p^r \sum_{x=0}^{\infty} \binom{-r}{x} (-e^u (1 - p))^x $$
what about the (-1)^x
and als othe combinatoric
lol, yeah
StrangeQuarkAL
I combined the (-1)^x and the (e^u (1-p))^x together
ok
we pretty much have enough to rewrite it as the left hand side
let x = 1 (in the equation here) so that
$$ (1 + y)^r = \sum_{x=0}^{\infty} \binom{r}{x} y^x $$
mmhmm
So, what can we replace y and r with to make it equal to the equation here
I'll replace k with x to get you started
StrangeQuarkAL
you forgot the 1
yeah just forgot the 1
yeah
yeah got that
damn, that was a good question
how did you think of using the negative binomial
Ok I see
The way you get it into the fraction form had to be the same though so I just looked back at my notes
I have another moment generating function question, do you think I can DM it to you
My laptop just died
I'd prefer if you opened a new help channel. Much better to have the active server at your diposal
Ok I see
Yeah. Anyway, great work. Seems like you really got the explanation
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How does 17x^2 + 4x -12 = 0 get simplified to the answer in the latter screenshot?
4 * 17 * 12
Can you calculate that again
Result:
816
when I factor out 832 (16+816) I get this
okay so that factors down to 8sqrt(13)
why does that end up simplifying to the answer that I was given?
If you have something like
(2+2b)/4
We can simplify it by dividing 2 in numerator and denominator
(1+b)/2
That's what your answer paper says
Your answer was (-4ยฑ8โ13)/34
We can simplify it further by dividing numerator and denominator by 2
that doesn't affect sqrt(13)?
or I guess the proper way to think about it is sqrt(13) multiplied 8 times
No problem
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this is a little sad but could anyone explain to me how a purely negative derivative can result in a integral having positive values. aren't both derivative areas negative as well?
like, i get that the values should be positive in terms of 1/x being 1/x
but i'm missing the connection to the derivative
if you wanted to find the area of g(x) between x = 1 and 10 for example
you'd integrate g(x) to get f(x) and then sub in x = 10 and x = 1
f(10) - f(1) = 0.1 - 1 = -0.9
which makes sense, our original function was entirely below the x-axis, so the area we get should be negative
I think you've mixed it up: when you integrate g(x) you get f(x)
if you integrate f(x) = 1/x you get ln |x|
alright i still don't 100% get it i think but it's a little better than before
thanks a lot for the help man
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how do i do a
identify the given angels in the diagram
80 and 240 right
show them in the diagram.
x=y?
well. what is x?
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,,\frac{\sqrt{3}}{4} + \frac{\sqrt{3}}{4} = \frac{2\sqrt{3}}{4} = \frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}
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its a logarithm question
is finding x possible?
(2x-1) / x = log 6/ log 2
I think from the structure yeah
idk whats the next step
I might just separate the fraction on the left hand side
and solve for x
howww i dont understand sorry
$\frac{a+b}{c}=\frac{a}{c}+\frac{b}{c}$
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2x-1 / x = log 6 / log 2
2x / x - 1 per x = log 6 / log 2
2x - 1 = xlog 6 / log 2
2xlog 2 - log2 = xlog 6
2xlog 2/log 6 - log2/log 6 = x
xlog2 / log 6 = x
log 2/ log 6 = x/x = 1
wtff did i did wrong somewhere
oh
the 2xlog
ohh theres a rule that makes
plogb/ploga = alogb is that correct
@sudden temple
yeah
2x-1 = x.^2log 6
2x-1/^2log 6 = x
x = 2x-1/^2log 6
thats as far as i can go
thanks for helping
i still dont know if im right or not btw
wait lemme see
after the fourth line from end, you should just 2xlog2 - xlog6 = log2
then just factor out the x
and divide the rest on both sides
this should be it
apparently i did wrong in early steps
i restarted and im stuck on here?
seems fine to me
what are you confused about?
just use the property of log
to bring those exponents down
ohh
uhh did i make some mistake somewhere
which part are u pointing out
3rd step
ohh wait lemme try to understand them
that doesnt make log. log but log +log?
obviously bro
that's the property of logarithm
ik this rule but i dont understand how to bring the real number exponent to log xD
is this supposed to be correct then im sorry
@sudden temple
lol
yeah
,rotate
im so stupid damn
did you got it?
no
bro leave the x multiplied on the right hand side
and just expand the left hand side
then combine the x terms and then factor out x
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whats this supposed to mean
with what
like this i guess??
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i can put the exponent part as
ohh ty ty
$2^{\frac x{2r}}$
kr
this should work
I am form 7th so how can I add fastly and smoothly
dawg
thanks yeah
ight so i got it like
that
then i'll have something like
$2^{\frac x{2}} \cdot 2^{\frac x{4}} \cdot 2^{\frac x{8}} \ldots$
kr
what does this converge to
$a^{b}{\cdot}a^{c}=a^{b+c}$
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of the top of i head i can take out like $2^{\frac x{2}}$
kr
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i need help in deciding whether i should study what i like or study for tommorows test
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ik how it gets solved using triangles and expanding the cos term
but in a reference i see they find x and y in quadratic with an imaginary i
and then they take the ratio which i dont understand
can anyone help?
x=cosโกฮฑยฑisinโกฮฑ y=cosโกฮฒยฑisinbeta
can anyone give the ratio?
,tex .sum diff trig
riemann
ik thiss
obv
i know how to solve
i am just thinking about this specific method they used
in this question
can you show their work?
show the entire "specific method" then
they just solve the quadratic and find x = cosโกฮฑ ยฑ i sinโกฮฑ, y = cosโกฮฒ ยฑ i sin ฮฒ
then they take x/y+y/x = 2 cos (a-b)
how the ratios form that i wanna know
oggg
they use
the conjuagte multiplication thing
why is it like the derivation of the formula of cos(a-b)
in complex numbers
right
this was completely out of my mind
lol
i forgot thats how you multiply imaginary numbers lol
yea got it nvm
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i am a student who is new to math
idk the basics too
and i need help with everything (almost)
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Hello!
Let me try to help you out
What do you know about functions?
Do you know how the f(t) notation works here?
just the basic
about how i can solve for a function
idk how to find domain and range
i mean i do
but i never get it right'
no
i don't get math
a lot of times
could u help?
I'm a bit busy now, sorry
anyone else that can?
The f(t) notation here tells you to input the values that the questions asks for in the equation
You put in some value of t, and you get something out
For example, f(0) just means to replace all t with 0
(in the "t" in the equation)
yea that i got
like in place of x just put, 0, right?
Yep!
how about part b?
You just replace it with a and math it out
In this case, the a in the parentheses cancels out
i really don't get that
As for the variables, the "a" ones, think of them as placeholders. For instance,
f(a) equals to a^2
but why?
Well the equation is f(t) = a^2 - (t - a)^2
we put "a" in place of the "t"
This gives us a^2 - (a - a)^2
(a - a) is zero.
0^2 is also zero.
What's left is a^2
Which is the answer for f(a)
do u mind solving it or explaining over vc?
Can't I'm in a doctors office rn lmfao
lol okay
makes some sense
lemme try solving it
As for part b;
the number in front of the "f(a)", 3, tells you to multiply the result of f(a) by 3
okay..
Part B tells you to sum the outputs (results, basically) of the functions it gave you.
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Can somebody explain to me the logic behind part a please I donโt understand the answer
I mainly just donโt understand this
Does this mean find all of the values that cause the rate/gradient to decrease ?
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