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i'm not sure what that means
ok sorry
i search how to translate in english
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Let f : [0,1] → R be of class C1 such that f (0) = f (1) = 0. Show that for all a ∈ R, the function f′ + a f is equal 0 at least once on ]0,1[. I need some help. With rolle f is egqle 0 at least once but for f'
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this might be a dumb question but do sinx=1 and sinx=-1 have any triangle on the unit circle? Im learning trig right now and i was solving an equation.
they have lines, which are “degenerate” triangles in a way
one side will have length 0
it’s a good question
so I can't really show it on the unit circle in that case unless i just draw the line between the circle showing the lines of sinx=1 and sinx=-1
why do they need triangles?
well if you’re on the unit circle you don’t really have to draw triangles anyways, you’re just trying to find points on the unit circle whose y coordinates are 1 (or -1 respectively)
they dont im just doing it for my sake because im curious lol
okok i see
what are you saying you can't show on the unit circle for these particular positions on the unit circle?
if you are starting out with the equations sin t = 1 or sin t = -1 and want to think of it visually using the unit circle:
well that means, we're looking for points on the unit circle whose y coordinates are 1 and -1 respectively, so we can draw the lines y = 1 and y = -1 and see where they intersect the circle:
see here for example you can see the triangle for pi/6, in this case would it even be possible to have a triangle like that on the unit circle for sinx = 1 and sinx=-1?
?
do you mean for cos x = 1, -1 ?
those ones are degenerate ones i guess
Computer animation by Jason Schattman that shows how sine, cosine, tangent, cotangent, secant & cosecant all fit together in one beautifully unified structure on the unit circle.
Along the way, you'll see animated visual "proofs" of the 3 classic Pythagorean trig identities
sin^2 + cos^2 = 1
tan^2 + 1 = sec^2
cot^2 + 1 = csc^2
plus a 4th o...
This would help
I visualised from here
Yeah this is what I was talking about
I’ll check it out thanks
But what about for (0,-1) could u draw a triangle in quadrant 4 too?
well for certain points on the circle, you'll simply have an x or y coordinate of 0 so you can't draw triangles with the components along x axis or y axis
but just think of the cos as the x coordinate and sin as the y coordinate, you don't need triangles for visualizing stuff necessarily, just helps to see the relationship cos^2 + sin^2 = 1, but that still holds if cos or sin is 0 and the other is 1 right?
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The equation 63x + 70y + 15z= 2010 has an integral solution. [True/False]
=0??
Oh, I was thinking another topic I'm not great with calculus. Hope someone else can help!
Friend just sent me this :To determine whether the equation (63x + 70y + 15z = 2010) has an integral solution, we can utilize the properties of linear Diophantine equations, which are of the form (ax + by + cz = d) with integer coefficients.
The general solution exists if and only if the greatest common divisor (GCD) of the coefficients (a), (b), and (c) divides the constant term (d). In this case, we need to check whether (\gcd(63, 70, 15)) divides 2010.
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Calculate (\gcd(63, 70, 15)):
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(\gcd(63, 70)):
- Prime factorization of 63: (63 = 3^2 \cdot 7)
- Prime factorization of 70: (70 = 2 \cdot 5 \cdot 7)
- Common factor: (7)
- (\gcd(63, 70) = 7)
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(\gcd(7, 15)):
- Prime factorization of 15: (15 = 3 \cdot 5)
- Common factor: None
- (\gcd(7, 15) = 1)
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Therefore, (\gcd(63, 70, 15) = 1)
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Check whether 1 divides 2010:
- Since 1 divides any integer, 1 divides 2010.
Since the GCD of the coefficients is 1 and it divides the constant term 2010, the equation (63x + 70y + 15z = 2010) has an integral solution.
Therefore, the statement is True.
Nicole
I don't get it but hope it helps 🙂
Thanks
thats kinda odd, cuz every linear eqn will have an integral soln that ways, cuz 1 divides everything
oh its like that?
In that case it will depend on whether gcd(a,b,c) | d or not
then yh i got it
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x/2-((x+3)/6) = x-2((x-4)/4)
How could I make the fractions to whole numbers
Multiply everything by 6
So just curious, why?
Do it and you will see wht
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Can someone explain the center right please
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ABC is a right angle triangle with hypotenuse BC, there is an incircle with center O with radius r being an integer, line l is parallel to BC and passes trough center O, it touches AB and AC at P and Q respectively, and passes the incircle at x and y such that x is closer to AB than y is to AB, if PX=1.5 and QY=4, find the area of the circle
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i dont have the question on me
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oh yea i think
wait wtf you have a 3 letter username??
no it's mez3141
no his mc username
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setting up a relation to solve for r is probably how i'd start this
refer to line QP and make some right triangles you think might help
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use the similar triangles and pythag
B and C are irrelevant, just focus on APQ
and use the similar triangles formed by the tangencies of the semicircle with AQ and AP
yeah i think so
oh
tangent AP to semi is N, and AP to semi is M
r^2+MQ^2=(r+4)^2
r^2+NP^2=(r+1.5)^2
(NP+r)^2+(MQ+r)^2=(2r+5.5)^2
like this?
yeah that works
you can also write MQ or NP in terms of r
because NPO similar to MOQ so youll have a system of 2 variables instead of 3
NO/PO=MQ/OQ
you know NO, PO, MO
then MQ^2+MO^2=OQ^2 and everything is in terms of r
uh ok
does that make sense?
ye
okay
would this be r/r+1.5=MQ/r+4
OQ=r+4
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Hello! I just want to ask you guys for second opinion. Is the instruction asking us to find the summation formula for i or 2i+1 (considering that it was emphasized by: "given that" and so on)
For i
so the equation after the "given that" is just a distractor? (since I can get the formula for the summation of i even without that)
It wants you to derive it from that
now that makes it complicated...
thanks though! let me think this thoroughly
last question, so I could have some directory. Is the Sn still n(n+1) all over 2?
Yess
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I would assume that n is an integer if you are being asked to prove this
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i did it
then?
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see if a^2+b^2 can be equal to (a+b)^2
?
?
it's faster
you mean +2ab?
from this you get a^2+b^2=(a+b)^2-2ab
which is faster to compute
yeah
first expand (a+b)^3 = a^3+b^3+3ab(a+b)
a^3+b^3 = (a+b)^3-3ab(a+b)
= (a+b)(a^2+b^2-ab)
and you already have the a^2+b^2 aswell
and a+b and ab
same as before
should i rationalize the denominator or directly add it?
,w 1/(root5+root2)
rationalize or take lcm
again ratio
but the denominators are same
cant i do 7-4root3 - 7+4root3?
?
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can u pls tell me the answer?
$(5+root3)(7+4 * root3)-(7-4 * root3)(5-root3)$
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yw
now this is coordinate geometry
can u help me?
pls
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hey
are you there?
hi
ok
find the height of the triangle
it's an equilateral triangle so side lenght = QR
can i use pythagoras theorem?
yes, to find the height
yeah, 4
-4 or +4?
yeah
therefore co-ordinates of p=0,4?
noooooooooooo
oh
the height will be the coordinate
ok
(0, height)
it is asking of the point P.
so find height that will give the distance of P from 0.
that is just the origin
so px is the height
yeah
yeah
draw the perpendicular bisector of QR. Use congruency to prove that QX = XR
if you want to
since ang PQX = 60 = ang PRX
Use AAS.
ydea
xr=2?
yeahy
yeah
yeah
or 2*root3
so the coordinates are 0,2root3
correct
thank you for your help
you have cleared my doubts in number system and co-ordinate geometry
thank very much
bye
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Don’t know how to solve this
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Is the answer (a)
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Two different points, $C$ and $D$, lie on the same side of line $AB$ so that $\triangle ABC$ and $\triangle BAD$ are congruent with $AB = 9$, $BC=AD=10$, and $CA=DB=17$. The intersection of these two triangular regions has area $\tfrac mn$, where $m$ and $n$ are relatively prime positive integers. Find $m+n$.
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Limit of (2x^(-1) -x^(-2)) (4x^2 +1)^1/2 as x approaches infinity
So what i did was multiply by x^2/x^2
The equation became( (2x-1)(4x^2+1)^1/2 )/x^2
That can be broken down into two limits
(2x-1)/x and (4x^2 +1)^1/2 /x
The first limit is zero
Why is the answer not zero
$\lim_{x\to\infty}(2x^{-1}-x^{-2})\sqrt{4x^2+1}$
kheerii
Is it this?
Yes
Yes.
Okay but both of those limits are non-zero
They are undeterminate
Both exists
Right?
kheerii
How
divide the numerator and denominator by x
or just separate the 1/x lol
like separate the fractions
$\lim_{x\to\infty}\left(2-\frac1{x}\right)$
kheerii
2-1/x
it is
Yeah and the other limit two and the answer is indeed 4
yeah
Wait wait lemme comprehend
but splitting limits like this isn't a good idea
you should evaluate the whole limit together, unless you know that one of the limits you removed exists and is non-zero, finite
I did the same thing by dividing by x and somehow i got 0/1
that means you went wrong somewhere
$\lim_{x\to\infty}\frac{(2x-1)\sqrt{4x^2+1}}{x^2}$
I said 2x/x is 0
kheerii
solve this as one limit
Nooo why

Ah- too many requirments
yes.
it's the same thing though
just divide the x^2
$\lim_{x\to\infty}\frac{2x-1}{x}\cdot\frac{\sqrt{4x^2+1}}{x}$
kheerii
$\lim_{x\to\infty}\left(\left(2-\frac1{x}\right)\cdot\sqrt{4+\frac1{x^2}}\right)$
kheerii
now just replace all the 1/x terms with 0
2*2
Wait uhm
Oooh okay
But this is lowkey the same thing
Ig i was lucky when i seperated
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Im solving the advanced questions section in my workbook
And theres only 1 ledt
Soo
Ehm ehm
I failed
Or idk i dont wanna continue bc its getting out of hand
Lemme send the question on pAper
Ignore the stuff in arabic
Uhm
Yeah
Ifk where to start tbh
I divided by x^3
By x^2
By x
And by sqrt(x)
I faced a problem in each attempt
And i dont think lhopitals would work here
Maybe we can use it to simplify the expression but idk
you actually have to divide by x^(3/2)
Oh wait
whenever you have a rational function like this, with "polynomial-like" bits (square roots etc) with x tending to infinity just check the highest degree of the numerator and denominator
X*sqrtx
X^3/2
yeah, that's the highest degree
you can actually ignore all the other terms
if you don't want to you can divide by x^(3/2) and then see that the other terms in the numerator will go to 0
the cube term inside the square root in the denominator is also of degree 3/2!!
Yeah i see i see
Yes
I saw
So
so, you can ignore all other terms
I dont think ill check the answer since you said its 5/2
tysm sir kheeri
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is this the correct way of doing it
i got the answer, just wanted to know if there's some other easier and less time taking method/way
(ping when reply pls)
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@neon iron i guess this is basically the same thing you did, but recall X' = AdjX/|X|, so AdjX = |X|.X'. (using apostrophe for inverse)
so Adj(Q'BP') = |B|.(Q'BP')' = |B|PB'Q (since |P|=1=|Q|), which is then just PAQ
the determinant is just a number, you can sneak it into anywhere
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Ehm
yea
the coordinates of A(x;y) where x is the number on the vertical of A and y on the horizontal
just need b)
it'll be the same rectangle in fact
you've tried A = (7,4), right?
here
it'll be same rectangle, but the A'' is mirrored about the line y = 5
and after the first transformation it was (7,6)
ty I get it now
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this is a proof from my book,
why exactly did we need the prime subfield step?
ie, why does $|(K^{\mathcal{B}})_0|=|\mathcal{B}|<2^{|\mathcal{B}|}\le |K^{\mathcal{B}}|$ not work along the same lines?
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i'm currently learning about probability and i'm not sure how to tell whether an event is independent or dependent
like would it be P(both freshmen) = (P(being freshman))^2
or P(both freshmen) = P(being freshman) * P(being freshman | freshman already selected)
i see
i'm not sure when the whole replacement thing applies cuz there was another problem where it was like 60% of the us population owns a smart tv, whats the probability that you select 2 americans with smart tv
and it was just (0.6)^2
even though you're not replacing anyone
ig at that scale it doesn't really make a difference
Yea when the set is "large", we assume no replacement would hardly effect the probability so it's a valid approximation
In the case of 20 students, we have a high dependency on whatever the first student is. The answer is quite simple though:
20Choose2=20C2=number of ways of picking unique pairs
Likewise
7Choose 2=7C2=number of ways of picking unique pairs of freshman
I'll let you get to the final conclusion given that info
how large does the set have to be for us to ignore replacement
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Am I right?
I drew the blue lines
Angle angle side
Nope I’m wrong ahaha
Why why whyyyy
So sad
Why do you think the blue angles are equal?
Bisector?
What is the bisector here?
The line in the middle
Why do you think it's the bisector?
It’s in the middle
What is the definition of a bisector?
Divide into two equal parts or congruent parts
This is kind of circular, don't you see?
The angles at the tip are not necessary equal
Yeah
Can you imagine two triangles that share a side and have the opposing angle equal, but are not congruent?
Yes
Well, that's all the information you're given about the two triangles in this task
So?
Answer 4 is the right one, though it's not worded correctly (they're not necessarily congruent, but there's nothing in the picture that proves they are)
Yes
Yes. The triangles are intentionally drawn this way, so that you can't immediately discard the 4th answer
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i am stuck on part b and c
i got A doing 2500/30(0.3+.08) since d(x)=.08
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Hi
Im trying to figure out if 3 points are in the same line
My idea was seeing if the slopes of the segments sharing a common point matched
But I dont know how to calculate the slope in R3
you need to check the direction ratios of the line joining two points
that's how we talk about slope in 3D
So they need to have the same unitary vector?
and see if the direction ratios of the line joining A and B are proportional to those of the line joining B and C
sure, you can check the unit vector as well
same thing
or just this
So the slope can be calculated directly by formula only in R2
the word "slope" only has a meaning in 2 dimensions.
for 3 dimensions the word "slope" gets replaced by either direction ratios or direction cosines
Yo guys! I need some help. I'm going into honors math 7th grade and I'm nervous. Can yall give me some advice?
Oh i understand
thanks bro
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Let u be one of those polynomials
what ever is at 4
pretty much the same as what they had
and just complete the sub
sub your (x^4 - 3x^2 + 6) for u
and the (4x^3-6x) dx for du
what do u mean dx for du
wdym by first
nothing
$\int \underbrace{(x^4-3x^2 + 6)}{u}\underbrace{(4x^3-6x) \dd{x]}{\dd{u}}$
yes
i just don’t u derstand how they got the second last thing
$\int \underbrace{(x^4-3x^2 + 6)}{u}\underbrace{(4x^3-6x) \dd{x}}{\dd{u}}$
u^1/2
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yeah
there is no u^1/2 there
i mean u^2
integrating u, applying (reverse) power rule
but never have i done that in the other examples
is this different cause there’s no obvious compisites
no
no compositions makes this easier
after the sum, you have one of the simplest types of integration problems
so do i find the anti derticotve of u?
yes
no
where i go wrong
like the anti derovotuve of u
why are you setting that equal to x^4
like it’s not proper way
and setting that equal to x^3/3
and setting that equal to x^3
im just find ing the anti derivotve
my bad it’s messy
but isn’t the anti derisive of x^4 : x^3
no
what’s the right aenser
note that you want to integrate u wrt u
you shouldn't be trying to bring x back this early either
the whole point of the sub was to get something simple to integrate
$\int \red{u} \dd{\red{u}}$
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can you state the (reverse) power rule (for integration)?
it’s just minusing the exponent by 1
no
oh
i’m so confused
like i got it wrong
can u tell me how u would do it
so i can understand
the issue i’m having it’s just a lack of steps @restive inlet
look up reverse power rule integration
notation is lacking a bit,
but from what it looks like you had ZERO issue applying said rule for the question above this
oh wait
i i was just finding the rule for actual u 💀💀💀
like what it equaled to
i didn’t know it was just u
okay i got it tho tysm
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Can someone help me with this part like how did it get to square root X? This is the given working.
$\frac1{2\sqrt{x}}\cdot 2x=\sqrt{x}$
kheerii
But wouldn’t it only cancel out the 2? So like X/square root X?
Oh yeah right
Thanks
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2H1. Suppose there are two species of panda bear. Both are equally common in the wild and live in the same places. They look exactly alike and eat the same food, and there is yet no genetic assay capable of telling them apart. They differ however in their family sizes. Species A gives birth to twins 10% of the time, otherwise birthing a single infant. Species B births twins 20% of the time, otherwise birthing singleton infants. Assume these numbers are known with certainty, from many years of field research.
Now suppose you are managing a captive panda breeding program. You have a new female panda of unknown species, and she has just given birth to twins. What is the probability that her next birth will also be twins?
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suppose another birth happened while you were thinking, what is the probability that it was a species a birth?
1/2
1/20
yeah
so 1/20 of the births are that way, and 1/10 of the births is twins and species b
so 2/3 of the twin births are species b
Yes 🙂
so that's the answer, (2/3)(1/5) + (1/3)(1/10)
Makes sense!
Thank you for not just giving me an answer and helping me to solve it.
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The two non-parallel sides of an isosceles trapezoid are each 7 feet long. The longer of the two bases measures 22 feet long. The sum of the base angles is 140° part a use the law of cosine to find the length of the diagonal part B use the law of signs to find the length of the shorter base round your answers to the nearest hundredth.
I am stuck with part b the diagonal is 20.67 feet I just can’t find the shorter base
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I'm going to upload a photo of my work so far
Ello mate.
Hello there
The same question is in the minima and maxima section of the textbook as well, and you're supposed to solve it using both lagrange multipliers and partial derivative stuff, with the discriminant like this
I did get the correct answer after a LONG, LONG time with the first section, but I got a negative discriminant so there's that. Kinda just wrote a little note next to my answer and asked for the profs mercy
Sorry its pretty unclear so I'm going to try to write out what I was trying to do
Yea
So the A = (xcostheta + y)(xsintheta) is the area of the cross section. I tried to use a lagrange multiplier with the variables being x, y, and theta, but of course I didn't get the nice, clean stuff like this
I got what kind of looked like an answer, as I was able to get both x and y in terms of theta, but when I put it into symbolab I didn't get a value for theta (it was a very messy answer)
The issue is that it seems like the theta must be a variable for both the area and total length = 2 function, which just makes everything so incredibly messy once I start taking derivatives
I ran into that issue a few times when I was working on the problem by finding all the extrema first
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$u = 8x^2 + 2dx \$
$du = 16x dx \$
$dx = \frac{du}{16x} \$
$when x = 1, new limit = 10 \$
$when x = 0, new limit = 2 \$
Tomi
the solution is ln 5
now if I evaluate it between the 2 limits, I get something else
I will end up with ln |u |
yeah
now if I plug in 10 for ln |8x^2 + 2| and then 2
no, you plug in t0 for log|u|
I changed the bounds of the integration, no?
$\int_{x=0}^{x=1}\frac{16x}{8x^2+2}\dd{x}=\int_{u=2}^{u=10}\frac{\dd{u}}{u}=\ln |u|=\ln |8x^2+2|\eval_{x=0}^{x=1}$
log? it is going to be one over u with respect to du, sure you can combine it like that but it should be still ln, no?
yeah log means ln
no you plug back the stuff that youve taken out as u
you don't need to do that if you're performing a substitution
kheerii
ah yes
if you substitute the value of u back in the limits that you input also change
I forgot about this totally, but it still wont be ln 5
it will
$\ln|u|\eval_{u=2}^{u=10}=\ln|8x^2+2|\eval_{x=0}^{x=1}$
kheerii
ln 10 - ln 2 is not ln 5
two logs subtracted divides their argument
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Let A be not tautology. Let L be Hilbert’s system and we gonna add A as an axioms so we get the following axioms:
1. $A_1 :A\to (B\to A)$
\ $2. A_2:(A\to (B\to C))\to ((A\to B)\to (A\to C))$\
3. $A_3:(\lnot B\to \lnot A)\to ((\lnot B\to A)\to B)$\
4. A \
Prove that in the new system there exists some B such that B and not B are provable.
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how do i start?
i feel like i don have enough info
you can start by writing it algebraicly
like?
likke lemme write the first
$$ar=\frac{2}{3}$$
Skill_Issue
do the same with the 4th them
yuh i have that step down
so ar^4 = 32/405
wait
oops
wrong question wait
acctually
doesnt matter its the same ques with different numbers
It'll be $ar^3$
ok we do that
Max
yeah
$u_n=ar^{n-1}$
Max
try to eliminate a term so that u are only solving for one
is there another equation i can use or something
This is sufficient information to solve the question
think of how u usually solve simultaneous equations
divide second equation by the first
i thought i could only do that with terms like directly consecutive from eachother like
a, ar, +...+
ar/a so common ratio is r
what is the difference between 2 terms
its $r^{2}$ right?
Dootud
yeah
so then u can find the value of r
if u know what r^2 is, u can determine the value of r quite straightforward from this point
$$ar=\frac{2}{3}$$
$$ar^3=\frac{8}{27}$$
$$\frac{ar}{ar^3}=\frac{\frac{2}{3}}{\frac{8}{27}}$$
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$\frac{ar^{3}}{ar}=\frac{9}{4}$
tox was here
shouldnt it be ar^3/ar
alr, now cross out ar from numerator and denomerator
$r=\frac{3}{2}$
tox was here
then u can find a
do i ignore the + or -
since it has a limiting sum u can safely ignore the negative solution
wait
ignore that
that was a stupid comment from me
but it doesnt matter if r < 1 right cuz |r|
i dont think you can know weather its ratio is posiyive or negative
do i test both?
huh
$$\frac{ar}{ar^3}=\frac{\frac{2}{3}}{\frac{8}{27}}$$
$$\frac{ar}{ar^3}=\frac{2}{3}\cdot\frac{27}{8}$$
$$\frac{1}{r^2}=\frac{1}{1}\cdot\frac{9}{4}$$
$$r^2=\frac{4}{9}$$
$$r=\frac{2}{3}$$
Skill_Issue
its just flipped
ar is 2/3
ar^3=8/27
no
if you simplify youll get 1/r^2=9/4
just flip them so 4/9
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im stuck on part C), i solved the equation and got a = 2,6 but i dont know what to do with these values of a afterwards
Find the coordinates of b as well
how
how did you find a?
i solved the equation
when you solved, you should have gotten two solutions for u, right?
also can you send a picture of part A?
so when you solve for u, you get both 2^(a/2), and 2^(b/2) as your two solutions
so just use the other solution to solve for b
or, just use the fact that a+b=8
but i get two values of a which one do i use in a + b =8?
they should add to 8, right?
yeah
what are your two solutions for a?
a = 2
a = 6
So a = 2, b = 6
looking at the diagram we can say that a < b
right
so now you can just plug your x-values for a and b into the equation y = 2^(x/2) to fid their y-values
and then you can just solve for the equation of the line
$P\left(2,2^{\frac{2}{2}}\right)?$
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John has 4 apples in one hand and -1 apples in the other. Now suppose he puts the 4 apples through a squaring machine and the -1 apple through a square rooting machine. How many apples does he have now?
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I factored out the 1/2 and I see that it's integration by parts
not sure next step though
IBP how
[ \f 12 \int e^x \left { \f 1{1 + x} - \f 1{(1 + x)^2} \right } \dd{x} ]
there is
how?
wait how did you split the integral like that?
argon
- 1 - 1 in the numerator
hmm. interesting.... but then how to proceed from there? now I'm even more confused lol
Of course neon finds the one guy asking for integral help before me
with e^x as numerator for both?
and then? I feel like that's even more weird to solve
how would you have done it?
trust me
"it's not IBP"
proceeds to do IBP
it's gonna cancel
Yeah trust argon, he's an integral connoisseur
or don't, but you'll realize what I meant when you figure it out on your own
it's not IBP tho? Just add and subtract one from the numerator like (x+1-1)e^x and split
argon

does this look familiar
ok so I tried to do integral of e^x/1+x
I hate doing this but it's just that
Idk how to solve that
Bro brought out a whole cheat code
no....
good
I'm so confused but thanks ig
Yeah you can also just do by parts right from the get go.
if you want more hint: || u = xe^x, dv = 1/(1+x)^2 dx ||
I wanted to avoid Ei stuff, assuming they haven't seen special functions 
Ah alr
foresight
so du is (e^x)(e^x)(x) dx and v would be -1/(1+x)^3?
Uh, no. I think you may have gotten confused and differentiated what you were supposed to integrate and vice versa
Differentiate u and integrate dv
yeah, I thought that's what I did?
differentiate u with product rule
oh wait I forgot the plus sign
so du is (e^x) + (e^x)(x) dx and v would be -1/(1+x)?
