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Hello, I was wondering if anyone could assist me with this problem. I have followed the hint and found that we need to choose a M_n such that x - lnx >= ln(M_n) but I'm not sure where to go from here.
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Hints please
what does the graph |z| = 25 look like?
@worthy storm Sir?
does your sir know you are asking this here?
Circle
What?
so 75 times all the points does what?
ive never seen that notation
How to start solving?
i gave you the first step
The answer is (a), circle.
The points with modulus 25
|z-bar|=25
means that they have distance 25 from the origin
So it is a circle, of radius 25
But how
|z-bar|=25
means points on a circle of radius 25
yes ma'am let me continue my explanation
Yes sir austin
amazing ma'am. so the points, they're on this circle. and then what we do is we scale all of them by 75, and then subtract 1 from the real part
they're right here
red circle
is zbar's
what is your understanding of absolute value ciup?
I have said it is circle
its not absolute value
did your sir draw that
then when you subtract 1 from their real part, it shifts the circle to the left 1
yes
ok, excuse what i said, the notation |.|
I have said it will make circle
how would you define it?
Modulus
Ma'am, please ignore him I was explaining it just fine
√x^2+y^2
Which makes circle
But in the qiestion do you feel same -1+75z'
Here it is not with modules sign
ma'am, I explained above what to do about the 75 and the -1
It is not -1+75|z'|
yes
we know
the modulus being 25, tells you the points z-bar are somewhere on that circle
geometrically
so z-bar, not |z-bar|
are on the circle
do you understand that
He?
You asked it third time

i was asking you for your understanding of the notation
And what I replied at first instance?
that was good
I think he is ignoring you ma'am
but the notation can be better seen as "distance from 0"
do you feel same -1+75z'
How?
ok im clearly being talked over
yes
good fucking night
You too
|z-bar|=25, means that z-bar, as a point in the complex plane, is on the circle of radius 25
Of course i am done with it
I am comcern with -1+75
I know how to add and substract
great okay
this is the funniest thing ever
But how can you sure about zbar
Zbar and |zbar| same?
ma'am...
that art makes me happier every time i see it
idk if this can be explained to you
I meant x-iy doesn't equal to |x-iy|
you said of course you are done with it here
and then you doubt here
I said about |zbar|=r makes circle
meaning the distance from the origin
yes
it means the z-bar IS ON that CIRCLE
^
not |zbar| is on the circle
Yes it is
I am getting now
although, |z-bar| is in fact also on the circle
Yes it is on that circle
sthu
|z-bar| same as z-bar?
I am past this
No no they are explain nicely
you evil man
yes i know, i am joking with him
@worthy storm you are explaining it nicely, please take over
|zbar|=zbar for zbar=25+0i
@inner dove kya aap bharatiya ho?
So you meant that zbar is on the circle
Here it is not with modules sign
Will be on the cicrle
what?
kya ise hindee mein karane se madad milegee?
Haan ji
accha
So they are just talking about the point
|z-bar|=25 ka arth hai ki bindu z-baar trijya 25 ke vrtt par hai
okay okay okay
@inner dove
let's say z = x+yi
okay?
that means z-bar = x-yi
okay?
Yeah
now |x-yi| = sqrt(x^2 + y^2) = distance of number from origin
x^2+y^2=625
no
so x is same as z-bar or is this with modules sign? He is past this
yes
wh?
she
Let we feel it with xy
okay

Let we feel it with xy
so we know that
z-bar = x-yi
Yes
x^2+y^2=625
that z-bar is 25 units away from the origin in some direction!
we know it's 25 units away
but we don't know what direction
it could be any direction
so this forms a circle w/ radius 25
of all the possible points where z-bar can be
now what we need to find is the shape formed by scaling this circle by 75 and adding -1
(to all the points on the circle, as in)
shall I bring back my diagram now sir Ren?
ji ha
Lol
that diagram really says it all
it would never try to get sir banned
🙈
A little doubt is we are scaling every zbar
I got it now completely
add -1 I think you mean subtract 1
Thank you so much all of you
no problem
same thing
No
austin shush okay
oh my god, we are moving this elsewhere
The main confusion was in mind about zbar and |zbar|
anything else, ciup?
alr
yahaan ekamaatr moorkh aap hee hain
|number| means distance of that number
Good night sir?
from origin
aur garlic
good afternoon, ciup
austin not here.
if you want to say something to me, say it to me
@inner dove anything else
No i scare of some people
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Yes
our ma'am is a controversial figure ren
I do not say directly
vo aapko nahi mujhe moorkh bula raha tha 🤣
I am Ciup's master 😂
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What is use of limits and what do we exactly get from limits?
Because in many cases... For example
f(x) = |x-4|/(x-4) for x ≠ 4 and 0 for x = 4
Here limits exist or not at x=4?
So Left hand limit is not equal to right hand limit is not equal to actual value at x=4
If everything is defined here
at x=4 and x≠4
Then why the hell we are finding limit here then
Yeah
But what is use of limits and what does limit even tell
it's useful for defining certain concepts precisely
such as continuity, derivatives, etc
most of calculus really
But here in my question
If everything is defined in function
Then why are we even finding limit?
of this particular function?
probably just to give you practice to get used to the concept
Yess
later you will do more useful things with it
What limit actually tells you?
Limit is suppose to tell you what value will it approach at certain value of x
But here already everything is given so what is even need to limit
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is this a typo from my professor? It doesnt make sense to me, i would have expected the integral to be linear in every variable, which i think is what this wants to tell me? but arent the a_i on the wrong side? (for some reason we also specified a_i>0)
no this is correct
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wtf
ok i need to read into that that is counterintuitive
,w integral from -infty to infty of e^(-x^2)
,w integral from -infty to infty of e^(-(2x)^2)
ok then it makes sense why for the proof he just wrote "substitution"
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Why doesn't any of the solutions become multiplied by 2 or even divided by all of h?
Becoming 2(a-b2) /h=B1
not sure what you mean
have you tried the problem yourself?
can you show your work, are you getting something different
Yeah I got 2(a-b2) then divided by /h, Ill try again
show your work
did you move b2 first and then multiplied by 2?
From the original problem I did
2(a)=H(b1+b2)
2(a-b2)=H(b1)
2(a-b2) divided by h=b1
Oh because of pemdas?
Oh I think I found what I did wrong, could this be it?
2(a)=H(b1+b2)
2(a)/h=b1+b2
(2a/h)-b2=b1
fix your capitlisation but yeh
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Sorry one more question, Lets say it was t^2/2pie^2=m/k and you're solving for m
Would the multiplication of k apply to the whole left side or just the numerator?
same thing
Won't this be different since there were parenthesis in the last problem?
to multiply to a fraction, you'd multiply to the numerator
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Once I eliminate parts of a system with gaus, how do I actually examine the system? Like I am supposed to "discuss" a system, aka find different parameters for different solutions (determined, contradictory etc..) How do I cover all the bases to make sure I am actually finding all the possible answers; parameter combinations that give me different solutions to the system?
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I'm having a brain fart, can someone remind me how 2cosa cos240 in line 2 becomes 2(-1/2)cosa in line 3
Adding the two cosa cos240 = 2cosa cos240
Then it becomes 2(-1/2)cos a
cos(240)=cos(180+60) which is quadrant 3 so cos is negative, hence it equals -cos(60) = -1/2
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Hi, I was working with a hydrogen fuelling company and I had this task some time ago which we all in the company decided to abandon because our data gathering system was not ready. To simplify my question we will take water as an example:
given I have a series of tests where I fill water into a bucket and measure the time needed to fully fill the bucket. Lets assume the mass flow rate is constant. in any testseries.
given I repeat this test many times with different starting conditions each time. those different starting conditions would be different amounts of water in the bucket. so if the starting condition means that the bucket is half full, it will take less time to fill it completely in that specific case.
how can I create a function with all the values I gathered that can represent any curve of any given test with an input that declares the starting condition?
My idea when I drew all those functions in one plot and then fit a shape through it. However as Im lacking fundamental data analytics knowledge I wasnt sure this was the proper way to do it
Idk where I should aks
Who is tyler
oh i’m not sure
There are so many input factors
Think of many testcases
And one curve was a test
Now find a function that describes all tests
That is what i am trying to do
One way would just be to lay a surface through the data
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Is it possible to further simplify this problem:
Budget: 100
List of items: [40,40,10,10]
Every item receives the same budget so budget divided by the length of the items array = 100 / 4 = 25
Then divide the 25 by the amount of each item 40/25 = 1.6 and so on
Resulting in 1.6, 1.6, 2.5, 2.5
Then converting them back into percentages by taking the sum of the results and dividing each result by that so: result / 8,2 * 100
Also what is this called? flipping percentages? But to summarize: my goal is to do this in the most efficient way.
I guess I could omit the part where I divide the 100 by the length of the array to begin with.
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how do you know when to adjust the limit when integrating
do i always do it in every undefined and defined integral?
wdym?
Big Yannis
so this is one i dont have to change the limits but on others one i do?
i dont understand what you mean by changing the limits
why would you need to change them?
do you have an example of when theyre adjusted?
adjusting them for example if you were doing u-substitution and u put 5 and 0 back into u
lemme find the one
this prob better example
if youre doing substitution then you need to change the bounds
because youre not using substitution
i used u substitution to solve it tho'
what is the original?
,rotate
okay so, you took u=0.02x
then your upper bound will become 0.02*5=0.1
and your lower bound will become 0.02*0=0
does it make sense?
yea
$\int_a^b dx \rightarrow \int_{u(a)}^{u(b)} du$
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My teacher used a table for this, listing out all cases (putting these into "drawers" of = 0, = 1, = 2, = 3)
It was something like 12-15 cases, but for some reason I get much more
Obviously we can skip the cases where 7, 6, 5, 4 are in the first drawer
But then, starting at 3, we can get
3 3 1 0
3 0 1 3
3 1 3 0
Etc.
A lot of cases
Much more than 12-15, probably
Are you familiar with the Pigeonhole Principle?
Yes
what is the Pythagoras Theorem
(I don't have his solution available, he just showed it to me)
what is this then
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I really want to use his way though
With the cases
10-12 fast cases in a table aren't bad
well each of the 7 numbers has some residue mod 4, if at least four of the seven numbers have the same residue then you can just select those four, so you only need to enumerate the cases where each residue appears at most three times
Consider the 7 numbers modulo 4, gives us 4 possible remainders: 0, 1, 2, and 3.
right
Exactly
so it's just a case for each way to distribute the residues among seven numbers where no residue appears more than thrice
if 3 numbers have residue 0, then you know that there must be 4 other numbers that have either residue 1,2, or 3
Yes
hm you're right there's still a lot of cases
Wait, maybe it checks out
My teacher had like 10-15
Maybe we'll end up with an order around that too?
40
Oh
^^
i know it's gpt so not too trustworthy but this is kind of the reasoning for counting the cases
when you expand (1 + x + x^2 + x^3)^4 you find a 40x^7 term
to end up 0 mod 4, you would need to pick residues: 3100 2200 2110 3320 3311 3221
and you can eliminate all cases with this fact
Wdym
the possible case structures are
If you're not insistent on going through a lot of cases, it is easier to prove a lemma that for any set of 3 distinct natural numbers, you can select two of them so that the sum is divisible by 2. You can then apply this lemma to your problem to get subsets of your set of 7 numbers that are easier to work with.
3-3-1-0
3-2-2-0
3-2-1-1
2-2-2-1
for picking the 7 numbers
I might be misremembering but as if I recall my teacher had like 12-15 cases for this, I'm really not sure why we're getting this many
and it is not strenuous to show that each of these patterns can be found no matter how any of the structures are arranged
Ok my teacher had more than just those
This is really weird
Maybe I'm just misremembering and it was a smaller problem
these are the 40 cases just unordered btw
the idea is that each of these structures have 3 non-empty boxes and there's always a box with at least 2 entries in it
relate that to the possible residues you can pick: each of these has a repeated digit of 0, 1, 2, 3... and either repeats another digit or has the 2 other different digits
therefore no matter which of the 40 cases you choose, you will find at least one of the valid 4 residues
(idk how the alleged 10-15 number could arise)
Are these all the cases already, maybe?
that's 10 out of 40
Maybe these are "special" 10 out of 40?
Like exactly the 10 that could give us difficulties and the 30 others are "clear"?
all 40 are clear in the same way using the method i outlined above
it's possible there's something special about these 10 but i don't think the distinction is obvious
these 10 contain all 4 cases from 2-2-2-1 and 6 of 12 cases from 1-1-2-3 (the 6 cases where the 2 is arranged before the 3)
what these have in common is that they're the structures that use up all 4 bins
i think the proof you saw showed that 3 bins always works, which would explain why you didn't write down any cases involving 3-3-1-0 or 3-2-2-0
and to explain it only using 6 / 12 of the 1-1-2-3 cases, i believe it didn't disambiguate between the 2 and 3 because a 3-peated residue isn't featured in any of the residue groupings
all this is way too shaky
This was a similar one:
For 5 numbers
And divisible by 3
"mind." = "atleast"
I think the last case is unnecessary
My teacher wasn't paying attention there or something
Can we do this one with this "at least method" too?
Or is that not useful here
What exactly are you trying to accomplish here? Are you trying to figure out exactly what your instructor was doing or are you trying to just solve the problem.
Trying to solve the problem with a similar, case-based approach as my instructor
That seemed very quick, you just write out the cases and after 10 or so you are done
Okay, I just don't understand your instructors motivation for doing it this way when you can just split it up into much fewer than that. It just seems like it is teetering on a proof by exhaustion.
I think his motivation is to do it more brute-forcy, without having to come up with elegant ways to do this
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Ok wait I think I know why we have much less cases
N starts at 1 in this course
So I can just brute-force it, right?
nvm
I don't see how that is relevant, and this problem isn't really of interest to me because of the way you phrased it.
From my understanding, you have a lot of cases, and you want to abuse some cleverness and symmetry, but not too much so that it remains an arduous task of covering a large number of cases. That's just too vague a restriction and I don't think that yields anything pedagogically interesting.
Anyway good luck
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I know this needs the Alternating Series Test
but I get confused on how you prove the second condition
cause the limit of a sub n does go to 0
but how do you show that a sub n + 1 is less than or equal to a sub n?
i mean in general to show that something is decreasing, why not take its derivative?
of the whole series?
of the nonalternating part
n^2/sqrt(n^6 + 4)
you'll of course only be concerned about what the derivative looks like after n = 1
ok
though you could expect this thing to be decreasing after some point since you know that n^2/sqrt(n^6+4) asymptotically behaves like 1/n
could I also just plug in values for n for the non-alternating part?
so for n+1, when n=1, it'd be (2)^2/sqrt(2)^6+4
then do that for 4 terms of n
and see if it's always less than or when n is >= some n-value
i mean that's not really a "proof" of it
fr?
damn
well, then i'll use the way you said
additionally, how do you check if an alternating series is conditional or not
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If I have a graph and I want to partition in into euler paths. How would I find the minimum number of partitions?
I know how to show whether or not a graph is an Euler path.
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Hello, I'm looking through SAT question and this one stump me. Can someone help this out?
also when reply please tag me 🙏
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I can help
please do
Where do I start?
At the start, you will notice there are 23 integers total on both
It also says equal or greater than
Lowest data set a is 910 sum and data set b is 910 sum as highest integer sum
They will have the same mean since there are 23 integers total with same sum so the mean would be 910 divided by 23
Does that answer your question?
oh oh I get it now, thank you very much, tho the question does say less than the last interval so I think the answer is should be [d] instead?
The question is "What is the smallest possible difference between the mean of data set A and the mean of data set B?"
It's saying the smallest difference between the data sets A and B's mean
Would be zero
Answer d is 23 and answer a is 0 which has no difference
It shouldn't be the same tho, it says greater or equal to lower number but less than the higher number. Tho I might mistake something
But yeah, the answer if my assumption is correct it should be (910-887)/23=1
I have to check my understanding further
Wait i think i might read the question wrong
We both do didnt we
Still I think beside the part I pointed out, you're correct
I think It just represent the range between the 2 stated number (10-20, 20-30, so on)
Anyway, thanks so much, I got it from here
Have a great day
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let A, B, C be the roots of P(x) = 2x^3 - 5x^2 + 4x - 9. What is the value of 1/A + 1/B + 1/C
i forgot how
combine those terms into a single fraction
and the numerator and denominator can be optained from veitas
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Can someone explain to me why the first root is followed by a + sign, and then after the derivative of the root is ×(2x+2)
the + comes from product rule, the $\times$ comes from the chain rule.
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Determine the size of an outdoor pool with a square bottom with a volume of 32 m^3 so that the least amount of materials is used for lining its walls and bottom. Specify the surface area of the pool (bottom and walls) in the response
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ok let's make h the height, l the length, and w the width
how can we write that the volume is 32 in terms of these
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it says that the answer to 16 is D and to 17 is D , is it correct?
so there's a mistake in the book
I thought so too
the correct answer in 16 is b and the correct answer in 17 is d so its the opposite
this is what the book says
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Hi. How do i continue
well for starters
it should be positive sin x
also are u sure this is the entire question?
i feel like it should be 2cosx-sinx
oh wait
i have tumour
u can expand 1
into cos^2 x + sin^2 x
and then -2sinxcosx
combines to make (cosx-sinx)^2
can I suggest another method $sin(2x) \leq \sqrt{2} sin(\frac{\pi}{4}-x)$
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now square both sides and solve
Second step wrong here though
yeah i already said that
Sry i didnt see
all good
Yes
Okay
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ƒ(Why am. I here)=I don't Know
I think changing the base may be better first, as the sign will change
Why is x between 0 and 1
its not that x is between 0 and 1
when you apply the change of base rule, you'll have to compute log(1/3)
chose an appropriate base keeping that in mind
Answer is 0,1 union 1,3
Yea 2,3
so $\sqrt{x^2-2x} < \sqrt{3 \implies x^2-2x<3 }$
ƒ(Why am. I here)=I don't Know
or
ƒ(Why am. I here)=I don't Know
Idk where -1 and 0 comes from
Ohh
,w solve x^2-2x<3
So two cases
ok, can I do it my way? or should I do it your way
$\frac{log_3(\sqrt{x^2-2x}}{log_3(3^{-1}}) > -1/2$
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so $0<\sqrt{x^2-2x}<\sqrt3$
ƒ(Why am. I here)=I don't Know
now solve this
Ye
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and two $x^2-2x<3$
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where?
find the intersection of these two regions and you have your answer
sorry for misleading you earlier
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If 1/a,1/b,1/c are in H.P , then 100^a , 100^b , 100^c will be in:
A) A.P
B) G.P
C) H.P
D) None of these
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What have you tried?
Yeah, so what is an A.P here?
b-a and c-b
If 1/a, 1/b, 1/c are in an H.P then...?
a,b,c in A.P
Why are you separating them?
Yes
a, b, c
Three consecutive elements in an arithmetic progression
Now what can you say about 100^a, 100^b, 100^c?
hmm
100^(a+d)
Simplify it a little
100^a +100^d
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Alright so what is 100^(a+d)?
Ok, so 100^b is 100^a times 100^d
Do the same for b and c, since c = b + d
100^c will be 100^b times 100^d
Do you agree?
yup
And 100^d is just some constant
Meaning to get from 100^a to 100^b, you multiply by that constant
and to get from 100^b to 100^c, you multiply by it again
And this means that...?
Yes
thank you
Np!
=p!
It is
$\frac{100^c}{100^b} = 100^{c-b}$
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what
because it isn't true
oh
I mean we could choose a different value of d that makes it true
but it makes more sense to go forward. c comes after b so it's b+d
b comes after a so it's a+d
take ration of 100^c/100^b
and put values of c and b you can see ratio is not same
and do this with 100^b/100^a
the ratio is 100^d
^
bro their are three term 100^a , 100^b , 100^c
yes
if you say 100^c/100^b = 100^c-b
then 100^b/100^a = 100^b-a
What do you mean if you say
ohh
That's how exponents work
got it
100^c-b = 100^d and 100^b-a = 100^d
Thanks Man
For helping
i got my solution thanks again
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Hi and I hope everybody is doing well
So We learnt in high school all about exp function & natural logarithms even logs with different bases
Ik how to solve basic equations involving exp and ik how to solve ofc quadratics
but here A friend proposed me a mix of both
i'll try to show it nicely
if it was something like this
I would substitute X = e^x
then solve with quadratic formula & at last solve for X1,X2=e^x ofc
but here isn't the case
we never learnt this is school
i feel like it isn't our level
would advise against using stuff that look like x when using substitution
exponentials don't mix well with stuff like (non-constant) polynomials,
no nice way to solve that
Yeah of course
But what would your approach be for that equation
I'm really curious
you can get decent approximations with stuff like
newtons method
no exact solution exists to this, only approximations
i saw that lol
Never used it, but always eager to learn
May you show me a small example to get an approx of the solutions
wolframalpha gives these as solutions
I already checked wolframalpha before i even joined discord
and symbolab as well
no steps sadly
newton's method is the easiest type of approximation but it'll be quite annoying to do without a calculator
also bisection method exists
Interesting methods I see
if you can sketch your target function that would make things easier but i assume you can't do that
i'm sorry i'm just a high schooler, but what do you exactly mean by the term "sketch"
like make a rough plot
ah ok
actually since both solutions are less than zero here, e^(2x) is quite small so these are close to the solutions of x^2+4x=0, namely -4 and 0
yeah yeah
well noticed my friend
So, to conclude: exact(real) solutions don't exist for that equation but only approximations, approximate x values that would approach 0 when you replace them in the given polynomial
Oh yeah, cuz lim x-> -inf e^x = 0
means its getting smaller & smaller as it approaches negative, makes sense why the solutions given on wolframalpha are similar to x²+4x=0
real means something different in math but yes there are no exact (closed-form) solutions to this
and approximations can be as exact as you wish but never completely exact
I mean i'm always solving for R anyways when it comes to those polynomials anyway lol
so yeah
unless we are doing complex numbers
i mean we studied them as well, but meh
gotcha
X can't be exact like X= e-2 or X=sqrt(2) for example
which makes maths sexy in my opinion
cuz i needn't to calculate or to approx it
just simplify it and the teachers will shut up
Appreciate your help guys
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can i write 5 - 3x^2 + 6x ≡ -3x^2 + 6x + 5
in general
In this case both are true! I'd write = since it's just rewritten
ty
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log_6 x is the range all positive numbers?
it is not. remember that the range is all possible outputs of a function
none of those answer options correspond to this statement
the answer choice is 1 not 4
how?
we are looking for a false statement. it's true that the range of the function is all real numbers
but it does not have an asymptote described by y = 0
how is that true?
the function log_6 x can output every real number
but when u graph it, it only goes to quad 1
it asymptotes all the way to -infinity between 0 and 1
thats all real numbers?
that's all negative real numbers. then it outputs all positive real numbers between x = 1 and infinity
alr thank you
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i need some help with some representation theory stuff
this is the question
i need some help understanding the solution
given the defining representation of Sn is an nxn matrix
with every column containing only 1 number 1 and rest zeros
how does this fit in
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why is it 7! and not 6!
So in the case of xxxyzyzyz, they're treating xxx as a single letter, and then you have the other six letters for a total of 7 "letters"
you can say something like xxx=a to make it easier
ahhhh
so for 2 three-letter strings you treat them as a single letter, but you have 3 spots left (and 3 individual letters), so in total 5 "letters"
okay that makes sense thanks
yep exactly
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Hello, I’m solving a problem and I’m the last step (orange) I have to factor (x^2 + x + 1^2)
What methods of factoring are available to factor the polynomial? (I want a list of the options I could use, just so I can practice each one).
Thank you.
that doesn't have real/rational roots, so there's no nice factorisation for it
if you really wanted to factor it using complex numbers,
go through completeing the square / factorisation identity for difference of two squares
but from the question, if you just wanted solutions, you can use quad formula
What does it mean when it doesn’t have real/rational roots? Can you dumb it down for me @restive inlet
real numbers can be found on the number line, the roots of this aren't there
rational roots can be expressed as a fraction of two integers (you could extend that to include purely imaginary values like 3i)
Okay that makes sense because in this chapter we are learning about imaginary numbers and complex numbers, but how did you know the roots weren’t real numbers ?
Are the roots in the form of (x + _)(x - _)?
@restive inlet
roots won't have x in them
(x-m)(-n) will be the factored form
in that form, m,n will be the roots
here they won't be nice values
$\frac{-1\pm\sqrt{-3}}{2}$
Skill_Issue
you can do a quick check from the discriminant
ew
Roots are the actual answers to x right? @restive inlet
Like if you factored out of a polynomial and got (x+5) (x-6) then the roots would be -5 and 6 right?
roots are values that zero a polynomial
Ok
Makes sense
But how did he know the roots aren’t on the real number line?
Just based on the polynomial
(x^2 + x + 1^2) = 0
How did @restive inlet know that this polynomial didn’t have roots on the real number line? Did he solve it, or is there a way to tell
you can do a quick check from the discriminant
I see, the discrimination is the square root (b^2 - 4(a)(c)) in the quadratic formula right?
Ok so if you do the square root of 1^2 - 4(1)(1) you get 1-4 = -3
And since the square root of -3 is an imaginary number, you knew the roots wouldn’t be on the real number line based off the discriminant alone? @restive inlet
yes
I see, ok. My last question is,
If I’m factoring a polynomial and not sure which method to use, can I always resort to quadratic method? I was told by someone when solving polynomials that I should try to eyeball it to see if I know a faster way to solve it (such as completing a square) but if I can’t think of any, to use the quadratic method. Does that make sense ? @restive inlet
if the polynomial is of degree 2
Okay if a polynomial has a degree of 2 then I can always use the quadratic method right @remote kindle
yes
Ok got it. Thx
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I'm confused on what shape this makes? would it be a hyperbolic paraboloid like this?
More or less, yes
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any short hints
what did trig sub get you

wtf this nawal moneky
