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tardy vapor
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how do i factor this

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tardy vapor
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this is my work so far

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don’t get how to factor {-8a^3+24a^2}

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like when i do it it gives me 8a^2(-a+3)

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which doesn’t cancel out with anything unless i take out a -1

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but idk how to do that in this instance

polar pewter
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if you factor out a -1 you get:

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-8a^2(a-3)

tardy vapor
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yeah i tried that but it doesnt give me the right answer

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it’s supposed to be

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-a+5 / 4(a+2)

polar pewter
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looks like the negative sign was moved to the numerator

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what you have written down is equivalent

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just needs one more step of simplification

tardy vapor
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how would i move it to the top

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take out a negative?

polar pewter
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-(a-5)/ 4(a+2)

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the numerator becomes -a+5

topaz sinewBOT
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@tardy vapor Has your question been resolved?

tardy vapor
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yeah i know but how

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like u cant just magically move the negative

tardy vapor
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?

tardy vapor
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cedar kindle
tardy vapor
cedar kindle
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is that a plus sign in the middle 😭

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sorry its a bit hard to see

tardy vapor
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div

cedar kindle
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alr i was thinking that or plus

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ty

tardy vapor
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yh

cedar kindle
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uhh okay sorry for taking a while

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but i think i have it

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im not 100% but like

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let me rewrite it rq so its like legible

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ok jk ignore the last part of that

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i think u just leave it as (a-5) / -4(a+2)

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i like defaulted to setting it equal to 0 for some reason

tardy vapor
cedar kindle
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thats odd

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if you mult the whole thing by -1 you get that but like idk

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ivory sorrel
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$\lim_{\omega\rightarrow\infty}\left(\frac{e^{kw^2x^2}}{\int_a^be^{kw^2x^2}dx}\right)$

thorny flameBOT
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Why am. I here

ivory sorrel
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prove that this is 0 if x<b
and $\infty$ if x=b

thorny flameBOT
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Why am. I here

ivory sorrel
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hmm, so when x=b

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how is the limit $\infty$

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Why am. I here

gleaming thunder
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approximate the integral intelligently, using the fact exponentials grow crazily
Feels intuitive, try to make a proof out of it

gleaming thunder
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x < b and x > b should be fairly simple
x = b is where things get trickier

ivory sorrel
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hmm, let me try x<b first

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to find the limit do I actually have to evaluvate the integrals?

gleaming thunder
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no

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it's nonelementary, remember

ivory sorrel
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hmm I'd probably use the fact that the denominator tends to $\infty$ no matter the values of a and b , if b>a; to prove that the limit is 0?

thorny flameBOT
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Why am. I here

gleaming thunder
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the numerator and denominator have similar behavior

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since denominator / (b-a) is between e^(kw²a²) and e^(kw²b²)

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so it's all about the value of x

ivory sorrel
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isn't it about the value of $\omega$ here, as that's tending to $\infty$

thorny flameBOT
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Why am. I here

gleaming thunder
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w matters yes

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k is irrelevant though

ivory sorrel
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yeah, so if b>a, the denominator will tend to $\infty$ won't it? That leaves the question of what to do with the numerator

thorny flameBOT
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Why am. I here

ivory sorrel
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Because I'm not too sure of what to do beyond this

gleaming thunder
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solve it for x = (a+b)/2
See how that method can be generalized for a < x < b

ivory sorrel
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so I fix x?

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in the numerator

gleaming thunder
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there is no x in the denominator

ivory sorrel
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there is in the power of the integrand, isn't there?

gleaming thunder
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yes there is because you clumsily create an ambiguity by having two coexisting x's in the same expression

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so fix that and make it t

gleaming thunder
gleaming thunder
# ivory sorrel so I fix x?

x is fixed anyways
I'm just hoping this helps you visualize it, since it implies we solve this problem at fixed x

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as opposed to some other methods

ivory sorrel
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hmm, so when a<x<b, the numerator would be less than the denominator, with the numerator tending to a larger infinity

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if that makes sense

gleaming thunder
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no it doesn't
Not to me

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the numerator is between the min and max of the integrand

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so you need to study the integrand

ivory sorrel
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ah, OK

gleaming thunder
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this is an exponential for a reason

ivory sorrel
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I'm still not sure I get it

gleaming thunder
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what did you draw ?

ivory sorrel
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$\frac{e^{kw^2t^2}}{e^{kw^2a^2}}\le\frac{e^{kw^2\left(t\right)^2}}{\int_a^be^{kw^2x^2}}\ \le\frac{e^{kw^2t^2}}{e^{kw^2b^2}}$

thorny flameBOT
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Why am. I here

gleaming thunder
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that's not what I meant with x and t thing but whatever

ivory sorrel
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oh, is this an application of the sandwhich theorm

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gleaming thunder
ivory sorrel
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$\frac{e^{kw^2t^2}}{e^{kw^2a^2}}\le\frac{e^{kw^2\left(t\right)^2}}{\int_a^be^{kw^2x^2}}\ \le\frac{e^{kw^2t^2}}{e^{kw^2b^2-e^{kw^2a^2}}}$

thorny flameBOT
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Why am. I here

ivory sorrel
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would this be right?

gleaming thunder
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part of me thinks this is worse
Part of me is confused
There's hardly a part of me that sees this as an improvement
Mainly confusion

ivory sorrel
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I have to eat, I'll close this for now

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ivory sorrel
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.reopen

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ivory sorrel
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ok, so what exactly did I do wrong here?

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ivory sorrel
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Thanks

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ivory sorrel
gleaming thunder
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I disagree with all 3 stated inequalities

ivory sorrel
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hmm,OK. thanks

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$e^{kw^2a^2}<\int_a^be^{kw^2x^2}<e^{kw^2b^2}$

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this is true, right?

gleaming thunder
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no

thorny flameBOT
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Why am. I here

ivory sorrel
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now?

gleaming thunder
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did you just remove the dx ?

ivory sorrel
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yeah

gleaming thunder
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wtf

gleaming thunder
ivory sorrel
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hmm, if $a<x<b$ then yes

thorny flameBOT
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Why am. I here

gleaming thunder
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explain

ivory sorrel
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Let the constant be say c

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then $\int_a^be^{kw^2c^2}=\left(b-a\right)e^{kw^2c^2}$

thorny flameBOT
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Why am. I here

gleaming thunder
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hence ?

ivory sorrel
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tbh, I'm not too sure of what to do from here

gleaming thunder
gleaming thunder
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you forgot it all this time

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and it's gonna matter for x=b, so you better not forget it

gleaming thunder
ivory sorrel
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why do I divide by (b-a)?

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ah, ok

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got it

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so. $e^{kw^2a^2<\left(b-a\right)e^{kw^2c^2}<e^{kw^2b^2}}$?

thorny flameBOT
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Why am. I here

pulsar sun
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Btw b and a both approach 0

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Also dont put the inequality in the power of e

ivory sorrel
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nvm, just realised there's a hint. I apparently sub z=$kw^2x^2$, and then L'hopital it( How that would work with finite limits is beyond me)

thorny flameBOT
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Why am. I here

pulsar sun
pulsar sun
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U can see this on a graph in geogebra/desmos

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Set a parameter a and plot e^(a^2 * x^2)

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At a = 100 itself the domain of the function does not go beyond 2

gleaming thunder
pulsar sun
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The function diverges beyond 2

pulsar sun
gleaming thunder
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u = t/w²

gleaming thunder
pulsar sun
pulsar sun
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gleaming thunder
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f(3) = e^(90000) is well defined for instance

pulsar sun
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Hmm but the graph of the function shows quite a different story

gleaming thunder
gleaming thunder
pulsar sun
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That's just a parabola

gleaming thunder
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defined everywhere

pulsar sun
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True

ivory sorrel
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Thanks y'all

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How many bits are needed to encode a choice from 18 possible ones
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can anyone help me understand how $\vec{r}\cdot d\vec{l}= r\cdot dr$ ?

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rough crescent
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do i have to think about it as $r dl \cos{\theta}$ so that $dl\cos{\theta}=dr$?

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A mass weighting 40 lbs stretches a spring 4 inches. The mass is in a medium that exerts a viscous resistance of 94 lbs when the mass has a velocity of 4 ft/sec.

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I need help with this problem. The way I setup is 40y''+94y'+120y=0 and y(0) = 5/12 ft, y'(0) = 4 ft/s. Is that wrong? Im missing the answer. Thank you

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willow helm
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is this correct so far

brisk terrace
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Is it k times 2 or k squared?

willow helm
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the 2 is t

brisk terrace
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Understood.

Do you know the formula for exponential growth?

willow helm
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what i did in the picture is finding k using the information about how many there were after 3 hours and after 5 hours

brisk terrace
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Correct so

10000 = y0 × e^4800k ... 4800 is the number of seconds in three hours.

40000 = y0 × e^18000k...

So you'll need to solve for k first.

willow helm
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and also with 2 unknown values how would you solve for k

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y0 and k being unknown in both of those cases

brisk terrace
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You use seconds to make your answer more accurate. You can do milliseconds if you want to get an even more accurate answer.

But you can solve k by setting up a ratio...

40000/10000 = (y0 × e^18000k) / (y0 × e^4800k)

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What happens to y0 here?

willow helm
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cancel

brisk terrace
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Correct so now you can solve for k 🙂

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Just remember your properties of exponents...

e^a / e^b = e^(a-b)

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So 18000k - 4800k = 13200k

willow helm
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k = ln4/13200

willow helm
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what's the next step to finding the value at t = 0?

brisk terrace
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Remember when we said:

10000 = y0 × e^4800k?

Now that we have k, you plug that in to solve for y0.

willow helm
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ohhhh

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that was my mistake

brisk terrace
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No worries 🙂

shadow hare
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Can someone help me with this

brisk terrace
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@shadow hare
This room is occupied. Please open your own help room 🙂

willow helm
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wait no i'm confused again

brisk terrace
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How so?

You said yourself that that the formula was

y = y0 × e^kt

willow helm
brisk terrace
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So you're going to use 3 hours instead of 4800 seconds? I mean, that's fine but it'll give you a less accurate answer.

willow helm
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ofc i can convert it if i need to

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i just want to know moreso the process to getting the answer

willow helm
brisk terrace
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Yes, your answer is correct, albeit less accurate 🙂

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y0 should be around 6000 or so

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Which makes sense because it's less than 10000 at 3 hours.

willow helm
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is something wrong in this

brisk terrace
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Okay actually since you used seconds before, try doing 4800 instead of 3

willow helm
brisk terrace
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I think because you used seconds before to solve for k, you should probably use seconds again.

willow helm
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ohh that's right

brisk terrace
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There you go

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That's correct.

willow helm
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okay tysm for the help

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You're welcome 😊

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i appreciate it

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golden sky
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Did I make a calc error

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How did you go from tan^2[(x)] + 2tan(x) - 5 = 0 to tan(x) = -6.3785 and 1.0452?

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vast garden
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question is to find lambda

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vast garden
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idek where to start

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i have a pretty hard time reading some of that

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namely the last line

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gy n9gg

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,rotate

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dim kindle
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I came here two days ago with the third exercise, and someone gave me a hint about supposing that c and d are a product of a rational and irational part

storm hearth
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Ye i did

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Heey

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storm hearth
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Any luck with that?

dim kindle
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,rotate

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dim kindle
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I get to this

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But the system of equations that I get don't seems to have a "easy" solution

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I am an engineer and I know some numerical methods for this kind of stuff but seems a bit complicated to get it raw algebraically

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Some hint to continue?

storm hearth
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I think you made an error

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Where is the term with a²b

dim kindle
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Yes I did, sorry for that

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This was the second time I have written this

storm hearth
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I have been observing for a bit, cant see a clean way to solve

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Feel free to ping other helpers as 15 mins has passed

dim kindle
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Are there any ways of solving this not in a clean way?, I think I ll leave this exercise for now but it's good to know if there is some methodology

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Let me see if I can write a solution with explanation.

dim kindle
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Okey

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I'll wait 🙂

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Are you trying to write it?

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I am wondering about asking for help again

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Yeah I am trying to solve it. But I can't find my algebra notebook. And I am getting a very morbid mathematical answer.

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you can ask for help from others.

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Meanwhile I'll trying to find my notebook with laws and stuff.

dim kindle
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Okeyy

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But what's the problem with the laws?

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I have just applied the newtons binomial and then split the equation to a system of equations in rational and irational part

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The third exercise I don't know how to get the c and d terms

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Someone pointed that I may suppose c and d a product of a rational and a irrational part and then split that into a system of eq

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But that system isn't easy to solve either

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Hahahahahaha

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Okey

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Thanks

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STOP PINGING EVERY 2 SECONDS

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Wat

dim kindle
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Hey

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I don't know how to get the parameters c and d in the exercise above

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,rotate

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This one

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this is my work

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can it go further?

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i dont have the asnwers

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uneven sandal
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A 2 kilo piece of ham costs 48 dollars.
A 150 gram portion of this ham will cost?

neon iron
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how many grams are there in one kilo?

uneven sandal
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Anyone knows an easier way to do this without 3 rule?

granite hull
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let 45 cook

neon iron
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thank you

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that is the easy and fast way

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hallow shuttle
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not a question but whats this property called

neon iron
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distributivity of powers?

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$(ab)^n = a^n b^n$

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neon iron
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$(ab)^n = ababab\hdots ab$, $n$ times. Since multiplication of real numbers is commutative this reduces to $a^n b^n$

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oh ok

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thx

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Basically an extension of the other property mentioned, but still has its own name

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in this graph there is the function f(x) in domain 0<= x <= π

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x= π and x = π/2 and x=0 are all assymptotes to the function

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to function f(x) f'(x) and f''(x) they have all the same domain

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let the line x= π/4 pass through the minimum point of f(x) and the line π/8 intersect the f(x) at a point where its y is (18.4776).

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the area between f'(x) x axis and the line x π/8 is 4.335

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what is the y value of the minimum point in f(x)

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i began drawing the function f'(x) for us to work better with the integral

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that would represent f'(x)

crude anchor
fickle shoal
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im not sure about x=0

crude anchor
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Or between pi/8 and pi/4?

fickle shoal
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it said between graph of f'(x), the x axis and the line x = π/8

crude anchor
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Ok but that doesn’t make sense

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That would be an infinitesimally thin line

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Which has no area

fickle shoal
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x= π/8 intersects f(x) at a point where y= 18

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thats what they say about it

crude anchor
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Yeah but that doesn’t change anything about what area is being represented

fickle shoal
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i think we could somehow draw it to make sense

crude anchor
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Well we know the area is positive so I guess it must actually be between pi/8 and pi/2

fickle shoal
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first how would u draw line π/8

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it has to go through 0,0

crude anchor
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What?

fickle shoal
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oh wait

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nvm

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my bad

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i was thinking y= π/8

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nvm

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wait

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that also doesnt

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nvm

crude anchor
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Well that line wouldn’t go through 0,0 either

fickle shoal
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yeah

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lol

crude anchor
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It’s just a. Vertical line

fickle shoal
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yeah

crude anchor
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Halfway between pi/4 and 0

fickle shoal
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wouldnt that make the area negative?

crude anchor
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That’s my point is we don’t know what the 4th boundary is

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Do you see my issue now?

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With only 3 lines there is no area enclosed

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We need to know what the fourth line it

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Is it x= pi/2 is it x=1?

fickle shoal
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then

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it has to be above it

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somehow

crude anchor
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It can’t be x=pi/4 because then the area is negative

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And it can’t be 0 for the same reason

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I guess maybe it’s pi/2

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It could be pi though as well

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Or any value between pi/2 and pi

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I don’t get why the question wouldn’t have that information

fickle shoal
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maybe they meant the area above x axis where it stops whenever the π/8 line touches f(x)

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but then they would also say area between f(x)

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and all the other stuff

crude anchor
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Was the original in English? Did you copy it verbatim or translate?

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Or maybe paraphrase

fickle shoal
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the original isnt in english

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it is well translated by me 🙂

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jk i dont think i have made any mistakes tho

crude anchor
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What language

fickle shoal
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it is german

crude anchor
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Maybe someone else speaks it, I only speak English myself

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I’m sure someone here speaks German

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So at least send it

fickle shoal
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100% i wrote every single detail

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what would u assume if that was written in your test

crude anchor
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I would think the prof was trolling me tbh

fickle shoal
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ignore the fact u could ask a supervisor

crude anchor
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Lmao

fickle shoal
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hahahah

crude anchor
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There’s not enough information I don’t think

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I guess I might choose pi/2 as the upper bound on the integral

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And go from there

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Just try

fickle shoal
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lets try and maybe get the answer from the answer key lol

crude anchor
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So I guess you can deduce that the integral of f’(x) from pi/8 to pi/2 = 4.335

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But this is an improper integral so I guess we would have to do a limit technically on the pi/2 upper bound

fickle shoal
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nope the value i got isnt it

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wierd

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thats a wierd question tho

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thanks for trying to help

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Hello!

I am actively playing a game that recently released and I was trying to dig a little bit deeper into the calculation of certain stats, since they don't publicly reveal any formulas about these.
I gathered a bunch of data points for this purpose, but I need some advice on how I can attempt to derive a formula or just a very good estimate from this (if possible)

{
     "1": [10, 16.4, 20.8, 24.0, 26.5, 28.4, 30, 30, 31.3],
     "7": [1.8, 3.4, 4.9, 6.3, 7.6, 8.8, 10.0, 11.1, 12.1],
    "13": [1.0, 1.9, 2.8, 3.6, 4.4, 5.2, 6.0, 6.7, 7.4],
    "18": [0.7, 1.4, 2.0, 2.7, 3.3, 3.9],
    "21": [0.6, 1.2, 1.8, 2.3, 2.9, 3.4],
    "22": [0.6, 1.1, 1.7, 2.2, 2.7, 3.3],
    "23": [0.5, 1.1, 1.6, 2.1, 2.6, 3.1],
    "24": [0.5, 1.0, 1.5, 2.0, 2.5, 3.0],
    "25": [0.5, 1.0, 1.5, 2.0, 2.4, 2.9],
    "26": [0.5, 1.0, 1.4, 1.9, 2.3, 2.8],
    "27": [0.5, 0.9, 1.4, 1.8, 2.3, 2.7],
    "28": [0.4, 0.9, 1.3, 1.8, 2.2, 2.6],
    "30": [0.4, 0.8, 1.3, 1.6, 2.0, 2.4],
    "31": [0.4, 0.8, 1.2, 1.6, 2.0, 2.3]
}

To explain the format I saved these datapoints in:

The leftmost number followed by a colon indicates the current level the player has.
The values in the array/list following after display how much crit chance % the player has with increasing amounts of the precision stat (from 1 to 6)

Example: "18": [0.7, 1.4, 2.0, 2.7, 3.3, 3.9]
At Level 18, the player has 0.7% Crit with 1 Precision and 2.7% Crit with 4 Precision

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wraith night
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I need help solvving this

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oh on which line?

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OHH

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It says this ones wrong did i mess up the equation?

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it says this ones also wrong

neon iron
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💀

wraith night
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oooooooh okay i thought so

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plug in x and y into the derivative i got right?

neon iron
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wouldnt you solve for f'(x) then plug in (5,0)

wraith night
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I DID IT

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TANK U

wraith night
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I always do my math under the assumption im doing the completely wrong thing and then I mess up simple things because i think im going down the wrong path

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anyways CLOSO SESAME

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yes worries

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all worries

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not sure what they mean

weary crystal
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domain is x values

neon iron
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what does differentiable mean

weary crystal
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the derivative exists at that point

neon iron
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ok so for a for example

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would it be anything other than -2?

weary crystal
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yep

neon iron
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and that's because you can't take the derivative of that point right

weary crystal
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correcto

neon iron
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hmm okay, are sharp points like that the only instance of indifferentiability?

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or what exactly is the criteria I suppose is the better question

weary crystal
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those and points where the function is undefined yeah

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well more than just that

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the derivative at $x_0$ is defined by

$f'(x_0) = \lim_{x \rightarrow x_0} \frac{f(x)-f(x_0)}{x-x_0}$

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places with "vertical" (infinite) slope would be another situation, for example x^(1/3) at x=0

weary crystal
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so you need the limit to exist from the left and the right

neon iron
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i mean in this case -2 is the limit

weary crystal
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of f yes

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but if you look at what the slope is approaching from the left of -2, that's different than the slope to the right

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so the limit is undefined, meaning so is the derivative

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that's why sharp points are no bueno

neon iron
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the limit should be defined though I don't understand

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they're both approaching a common point

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from LS and RS

weary crystal
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yes, but we're not talking about the function, we're talking about the slope

neon iron
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yeah pos/neg slope

weary crystal
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look at what the slope of the tangent line is approaching from the left of -2. that's different from the right

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so the derivative doesn't exist there

neon iron
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hmmm okay that's a good way to think about it

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so basically if the slopes are approaching a common point then it is defined at all values

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but if not it isn't

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an example of this would be the graph of y=x

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and the opposite of that would be the graph of y=x^2

weary crystal
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an example of what?

neon iron
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of slopes having the same limit

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and vice versa

weary crystal
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y=x^2 is also differentiable everywhere

neon iron
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,w plot y=x^2

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neon iron
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but how come?

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from the left side the slope is negative

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and from the right it's positive

weary crystal
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yes, but you can't just look at one point on each side. this is a limit, so you need to consider slopes super super close to (0,0)

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are slopes approaching the same value on each side as you get infinitely close to 0?

neon iron
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well they are, but same can be said about the graph of |x|

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,w plot y=|x|

thorny flameBOT
weary crystal
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here, no matter how close you get to 0 on either side, the slopes on either side don't ever approach a common value

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but for x^2, the slopes on either side both get closer and closer to 0

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you could do this with concrete numbers if it helps

neon iron
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the difference is in the steepness of the curve, which means that for y=x^2 it's easier to approximate is what I think your argument is

weary crystal
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lemme show with actual values. the derivative of x^2 is 2x. we are looking at x = 0 to determine if it is differentiable there

so, we should check the limit of the slopes on both sides. when x =0.01, f'(x) = 0.02. When x = -0.01, f'(x) = -0.02

as x gets closer and closer on each side, the derivative gets closer and closer to 0.

however, in the case of |x|, the derivative is -1 everywhere to the left of 0 and positive 1 everywhere to the right. so using the same method as before, if x = 0.01, f'(x) = 1, and if x = -0.01, f'(x) = -1. no matter how small x is, the slopes are different on both sides, and they don't approach a common value

neon iron
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I think I get what you mean now

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also I had no idea the derivative of |x| was -1

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pretty cool

weary crystal
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if x < 0 it is

neon iron
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oh right

weary crystal
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but at 0 the derivative is undefined by the logic I gave above

neon iron
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ok I just read the first part of that statement then lol

weary crystal
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lol

neon iron
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thanks, I think I understand it now

weary crystal
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no problemo

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ruby mural
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3

restive inlet
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lets break this down

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because you're not differentiating f,g properly

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what rules are you applying in your attempt to differentiate
$$e^{-8x}$$

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ℝαμΩℕωⅤ

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glossy hollow
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Lesson is continuity how to solve for if it is continuous it was never taught to us

wooden osprey
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im assuming R

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or only on its domain?

glossy hollow
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that's the whole question

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unfortunately

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no given value

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Check the domain if the fundtion, right.
Since $x+5>0$, x>-5. And the function is imaginary for x<-5. And undefined for x=-5. That way, the function is continuous for its domain.

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Solomaniac

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@glossy hollow

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does anyone have good study tips for math revision?

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practice

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try to teach someone else

cosmic bloom
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ok thanks, I'm new to studing and getting grades on tests and I want to do the best this year so with maths is there a way to set your notes a certain layout or idk

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Hi

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A particle moves with uniform acceleration 0.5m/s² in a horizontal line ABC.The speed of the particle at C is 80m/s and the times taken from A to B and from B to C are 40 and 30s respectively.Calculate velocity at A
Displacement BC

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This is the solution I didn't understand.Can anyone help?

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crystal goblet
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,w (80^2-65^2)

crystal goblet
# high flame

Looks good, but idk why you wrote ans:-6. Velocity at A is 45m/s and displacement BC is 2175m

sweet shard
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,calc (80^2-65^2)

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Result:

2175
crystal goblet
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No, I didn't want to flood the channel, so I deleted the message afterwards

high flame
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I didn't

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Understood the solution

crystal goblet
high flame
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A-C one

crystal goblet
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Ok, what is the time taken in going from a to c?

high flame
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Umm

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As A to B is 30

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And B to C is 40

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The time is 70

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S

crystal goblet
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Yes

high flame
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Why did subject the u tho

crystal goblet
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Because we are trying to find the velocity at A, which is u

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U is the initial velocity in the formula v=u+at

high flame
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Yea

crystal goblet
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And the initial velocity is the velocity at A

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Which is what we are trying to find

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So we made u the subject

high flame
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Ohh

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And what does uniform acceleration mean

crystal goblet
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It just means that the acceleration does not change in that time interval(it stays constant)

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The formula v=u+at can only be applied when the object is experiencing uniform acceleration

high flame
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Ohh

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Time is constant throughout the whole time?

crystal goblet
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What do you mean by "time is constant"

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The "t" in v=u+at stands for the "time taken to reach velocity v"

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In our case, "t" would stand for "the time taken to reach velocity 80m/s", which is 70s like you had said

high flame
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Ohh

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Then what is constant acceleration?

crystal goblet
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The acceleration does not change

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In this case, the acceleration was 0.5m/s^2 for the whole time

high flame
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Yea so it is constant

crystal goblet
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Yes

high flame
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And is it

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A To B

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In b

crystal goblet
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What?

high flame
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Yea

crystal goblet
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Yes

high flame
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In b.

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Why the time is still 40 therr

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There

crystal goblet
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Because it takes 40s to go from A to B

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We are using the velocity at B as the initial velocity to calculate the displacement from B to C

high flame
crystal goblet
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Because when you are going from B to C, you start at B, and the velocity at the starting point is called the initial velocity

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And the velocity at B is the final velocity when you go from A to B

high flame
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Wow my question has been already answered

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Before I asked

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Lol

high flame
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And B-C seems the most confusing part to me

crystal goblet
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When going from B to C, your initial velocity is 65m/s, do you agree?

high flame
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How?65 was the final velocity

crystal goblet
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We got to know the velocity at B from the A-B part

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In the A-B part, velocity at B was the final velocity

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In the B-C part, the velocity at B will be the initial velocity

high flame
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Ohh now I got it

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The way they did in V²=u²+2as

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I didn't got it

crystal goblet
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Ok, so you agree that the initial velocity when going from B to C is 65 m/s?

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What is the velocity at C(final velocity)?

high flame
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And there two initial velocities 80 and 65.I understood 65 but 80??

crystal goblet
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They have given it in the question

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The velocity at C is 80m/s

high flame
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Yea

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But it is initial?

crystal goblet
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No

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Initial velocity is the velocity at B

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We are going from B to C remember

high flame
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Then why under u² it is written 80

crystal goblet
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Look at what is written under v^2

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They rearranged the equation to find s

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v is 80 and u is 65

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So 80^2=65^2+2(0.5)s

high flame
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And under V² there is written s but why.And 2×0.5.The thing is I also have problem in subjecting part.Here it is done without the steps

thorny flameBOT
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smidgin

high flame
thorny flameBOT
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smidgin

crystal goblet
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I put v=80 and u=65

high flame
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Yea

thorny flameBOT
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smidgin

crystal goblet
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I subtracted 65^2 from both sides

high flame
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65^2 mean?

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I mean this ^

crystal goblet
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65 squared

high flame
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Ohh

crystal goblet
high flame
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Umm

crystal goblet
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I just moved 65 squared to the other side

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I am trying to make s the subject

high flame
crystal goblet
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v^2=u^2+2as

high flame
high flame
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smidgin

crystal goblet
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@high flame

high flame
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Yea

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Now I got it

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And my question why did they also do A-C

crystal goblet
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To find velocity at A

high flame
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And cuz C has 30s?

crystal goblet
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It took 70s to go from A to C

high flame
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Yea so it was the total time

crystal goblet
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Yes

high flame
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And initial velocity of A-C is 45

crystal goblet
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We didn't know that when we did A-C

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We were trying to find initial velocity

high flame
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Yea

crystal goblet
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So we made u the subject

high flame
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And 45 is initial velocity in A-B

crystal goblet
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Yes

high flame
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As it is from the beginning

crystal goblet
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Yes

high flame
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Ohh now I got it

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Can u wait for me.Imma try 6 on my own and then move to next problems and I would tell u if I have any problems

crystal goblet
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You can ask the other helpers

crystal goblet
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No

high flame
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Like can I pin you in other channel

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And u come back

crystal goblet
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And also since it's a new problem, it is always good to open a new channel

crystal goblet
high flame
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Btw which country u from

crystal goblet
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I prefer not saying, also keep such discussions away from help channels

high flame
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Nah I was just asking

high flame
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Okay

crystal goblet
high flame
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Ik

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Hello

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.reopen

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high flame
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Wassup

daring venture
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What help do u need

high flame
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No for now I am trying

daring venture
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Alright

high flame
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I'II tell u when I face problems

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for b does anyone know why they used the perimeter?

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when i was originally solving this i assumed that they wanted the total area of the 2 squares, so A = x^2 + y^2

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remember what x and y represent

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the shape right

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no

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they represent the perimeter of each square

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squaring the perimeter of a square doesn't give its area

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oohhh so x is like the total perimeter

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my question is when we consider doing an integral over any interval (considering basic conditions for a function to be integrable beforehand), don't you think that even in that finite interval it is impossible to take all real numbers there and integrate(density property of real numbers)?and from this point of view i think integral will blow up,but nevertheless it gives the precise value of that bounded area. so using math itself(or any other intutive way) can you please redefine things for me such that there is no contradiction like this

i know there has to be a problem in my thought process but i m unable to comprehend it myself

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It seems like that is your confusion

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The definition of the Riemann integral is too complex for someone to define for you in a help channel, but you can find many videos and resources defining it online

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What?

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u mean infinimumu supremum sums

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💀

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drabouz rectangles

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etc

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Darboux sums can be used to define the integral yes

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will that solve my prob

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Your problem is not well-communicated

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i think u dont beleive in my problem

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No I can't tell what it is

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can u disprove my statement

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Your statement is not clear

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wait

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can u list all real numbersbetween any finite interval

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No

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the real numbers are uncountable

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if u cant then this means integral has to count them all

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then i think integral cant give bounded area

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The integral does not count the number of real numbers over a finite interval

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as I said earlier

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then what does it count

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You need to go learn a formal definition of the integral and then you will not have this question

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there is no point discussing it here until you've done that

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You are confused because you do not know the formal definition of an integral

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which is?

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As I said earlier,

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isnt that definition of sigma changing to integral

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i know it well if thatis

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Either find your own resource, or you can use this

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Read the chapter on integrability, it will have the definition of the Riemann integral there

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?

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ok

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If the integral of 1/(3-x) is -ln(3-x) why if I multiply by -1/-1 the integral is -1/(x-3) and it equals -ln(x-3) which isn't equal

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If ln|3-x| = ln|x-3| what happens when I e both sides cancelling the ln?

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|3-x| = |x-3|?

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How is it possible?

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what is the answer to lim (x+1)/(x^2secx) as x approaches infinity

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I asked first fam.

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@sonic turret

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It's a simle conversion of $cos(2x) = 2cos^2(x)-1$

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Solomaniac

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Ah, I messed upon the typesettting, let me fix it

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To expand if it's not obvious, look at the formulas for trig:
$$ \cos{2x} = \cos ^2 {x} - \sin ^2{x}$$
$$ 1 = \sin ^2{x} + \cos ^2{x} \rightarrow \sin ^2{x} = 1 - \cos ^2{x} $$

We just plug it in and get
$$ \cos{2x} = \cos ^2 {x} + \cos ^2{x} -1 $$

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How do I solve a general linear system of equations with three equations, using pivoting?

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$ X^2

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Ie, intersection being a point, line, plane

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Yes so Gaussian Elimination. It is a standard algorithm. You will find it in any textbook or course on linear algebra

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I started on it for a system of 2 linear equations, don’t feel like it makes any more sense like that?

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For your particular case you will have free variable. Any variables that are not pivot-variable or base variables are free variables

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What you could do is express the pivot variables using the free variables. So you would have as an answer X = [f(x3), g(x3), x3]

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Basically putting values into the equation.

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ab = -12 right ? How is this possible ?

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A= 3 b=-4 and vice versa.
A= 6 and b=-2 and vice versa.
A=12 b=-1 and vice versa.

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Yeah I've tried that

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I got uh

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11 as the answer I think

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Wait oh my god

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12 - (-1) is 13

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i know the limit is e but I dont know how to prove it

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No, it's 1+ sin2/n

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a bit more work

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The thing in the bracket

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(sin x + cos x)^2 = sin^2 x + cos^2 x + 2sin x cos x = 1+sin 2x

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ok ill try to write it down and see what im doing wrong

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wait but its 1/x so I just substetute x for 1/x?

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yhe idk its not fully working

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i see the definition of e in there inside the sqare root sqrt(sin(2/x)+1)

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but idk i cant seem to reorgenize it

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yhe i got it but i cant simplefy after the sqare root

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(1+sin 2/n)^(n/2) -> e^(n/2 sin 2/n) -> e^1

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Hi. I’m struggling to figure out the answer to this.

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Remember the definition of sin cos and tan based on sides of triangle

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Find the one that fits with the data and solve the equation

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Tan30=h/20?

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No

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Revise the definitions

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Tan=opposite side/adjacent side?

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Yes

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Put 20 m side is not one of those

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I’m not sure I follow

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Is 20 not part of opposite nor adjacent?

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Is the hypotenuse

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Oh I see so if 20 is the hypotenuse and I don’t have any other value besides 30 what do I do?

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That's literally the problem you have

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I’m so confused rn

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sin(x) = opposite side/hypotenuse

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x = 30°, hypotenuse = 20 cm

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Omdsss thank you so much!! That was my problem! I was doing the wrong equitation thank you so much!!

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Hello, I am trying to reverse a result obtained with a function:
f(a, b, c, d) -> s
And I am expecting f(s) -> a, b, c, d
Now, I know that this is may not be possible because let's say you have a + b + c + d = s, you cannot know which numbers were used if you only have s, however I would like to give it a try.
This is the formula to retrieve s by a, b, c, d:

And yes, please excuse that this is java but I do not know how to express it otherwise (it is just math so it shouldn't be too hard to translate.)

public double getResult(double a, double b, double c, double d) {
        double aP = clamp(Math.log10(a) / 15, 0, 1000000);
        double bP = clamp(Math.pow(b, 0.1) / 500, 0, Double.POSITIVE_INFINITY);
        double cP = clamp(Math.pow(c, 0.2) / 1000, 0, Double.POSITIVE_INFINITY);
        double dP = clamp(Math.pow(d/ 20, 0.45), 0, Double.POSITIVE_INFINITY);
        double wp = aP * bP * cP * dP;
        return Math.floor(Math.pow((wp / 1000), 0.4));
    }

And I am looking for the inverse of this, which returns AN APPROXIMATE of those 4 (a, b, c, d) based on one value retrieved by top code block.

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# dusky tartan Hello, I am trying to reverse a result obtained with a function: ``f(a, b, c, d)...

Whether or not this is even possible is going to depend heavily on the function; in general, this is only going to work with very specially constructed functions. (Any linear functions, for instance, will not work here.) This is because, intuitively speaking, when you map from 4 numbers to 1 number you lose a lot of information when it comes to most functions, since many different points in R^4 will map to a single point in R under the vast majority of transformations.

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I recommend you read up on injective, surjective, and bijective functions.

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If a function is not injective it will have multiple points (a,b,c,d) that map to some s, if it is not surjective, some s will have no points that map to it. Bijective functions are ones with both injectivity and surjectivity and they are the only ones with proper inverses. Very few functions are truly bijective between different-dimensional spaces, since unless you carefully store information, you’re either losing information by going to a smaller dimension or you don’t have enough information to fully map to a larger dimension.

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Im currently using De Moirves theorm but im stuck haha

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my first step was to use pythagoreans theorm to find r, which gives me sqrt(13)

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shouldnt it just be $\theta(a+bi) = \arctan \qty(\frac ba)$?

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jan Niku

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,w arctan(-2/3)

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theres no exact value for that tho

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and it wants it in a+bi form

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i guess that should be fine rright

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just call it $\arctan \qty( \frac ba ) = \phi$ or something