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for this question I still have the same problem but I think I've got it right Let's consider the following demand function: D(P)=8-2P
At what price does demand become elastic?
look, there is a better way to understand elasticity
yes hahahha
elasticity is defined as the change of demand with respect to change of price
yes
say demand changes = 4 and price changes = 2
elasticity is equal to 2
do you know line equation?
a line can be defined as y=mx+b where as m is the rate of change of y with respect to x and b is the gradient (what y equals at x=0)
now the function you gave is D(P)= (-2)P + 8
we can write it just like a line equation
oe I see
y = -2x+8
now the rate of change is equal to -2
sometimes the problem will look like this: P(D)=2D+8
in this situation it is x=2y+8
no2
I think it was just 2
no D(P)=8-2P
give the prices 0 and 1 to the fucntion
demands will be 8 and 6
where 8 is the first demand (demands are decresing)
change of price is 1
change of demand is -2
-2/1=-2
you can try this on any other point on the function
and you will always get the same answer
because it is a line equation
idk. what is the problem
I have to deal with the social surplus the problem is Prices and quantities demanded at dates t = 0, 1 are as follows:
P0 = 8, P1 = 10 and Q0 = 30, Q1 = 20.
What is the arc elasticity of demand?
tkt
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I don't think that's it
I have to deal with the social surplus the problem is Prices and quantities demanded at dates t = 0, 1 are as follows:
P0 = 8, P1 = 10 and Q0 = 30, Q1 = 20.
What is the arc elasticity of demand?
I found 3.37
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does minus infinty square equals to infinty (-∞²=+∞?)
That doesn't have any meaning
Are you doing limits maybe?
It's true that if f(x) approaches -infinity, then [f(x)]^2 approaches infinity
ofc
Then yes
You can’t really square infinity because it’s not a number, so multiplication isn’t defined for it. But if you were to extend multiplication to + and - infinity, I suppose that equation would hold true
But saying "infinity" as if it was a number is very informal
It should be clear that you mean "infinity" in terms of limit arithmetic
Then yes, that’s infinity
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How do i solve this?
Do you need to prove or find solutions
To prove
What are restrictions for x, y ?
eirher they are in (0,1) or (1,+ infinity)
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I have to graph 5-3sin(2x) and I have no clue what to do with the 5-3 part
plus 5
sin(x) is normal we know that
is undergoing these changes
period is decreasing
multiplied by -3
and added 5
thank you
yah its g but is the final equation just 5-3sin(2x) but rearranged
yes
that makes a lot of sense ty
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heres my question:
I get stuck mostly when I get to adding the y1 in the point slope formula. I can never tell when it wants me to add or subtract it and I've done this question for 30+ mins now
I can show some work for other problems but they keep changing the numbers in the table so you can't just keep guessing the question
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help 😭
how do you rearrange this conic equation for y 😭
-3.9955967133235 x^(2)-0.1070756903598 x y-1.0832535136997 y^(2)+20.8529602534027 x+0.0952418719278 y=13.4514503924045
bring all the terms that don't involve y to the RHS
and factor out y
and then divide
and boom
Just out of curiosity what application has you rearranging a hyperspecific equation with that many decimals?
😅 maybe some more context would be nice
My engineering student brain just wants to truncate those numbers to the hundreths place for my sanity
😭
im trying to find uhm
the volume of an acorn.
Ah yeah just round all those numbers and slap an error because theres no way you’re actually measuring to subatomic precision
😭
ainnoway
So your measurements there are $\pm 0.01$ (units) so use that
Sean
No real reason to pain yourself with those insane decimal values you have
Because your dont have precise measurements beyond a hundredth of a unit anyway
So decimal numbers beyond that are just statistical noise fwiw
do you know if thats allowed in ib papers lol
Whos grading it
Ok since it’s a human, the best thing to do is clearly mark your error throughout your calculations
Im assuming units are in inches?
yup
Ok so your initial measurements should be thought of as “[measurement] $\pm 0.01$ in.”
Sean
oakok
how do i justify the equation 💀
like does polynomial regression work for this
or
Now there are specific rules for error propagation but that doesnt rly matter for this
Just round everything to the hundreths for this
okaoy epic !!
This shape seems a lot more involved than a polynomial could fit
Like are you talking about fitting a polynomial to the edge of the acorn to get an equation for its shape?
should i split it into smaller sections
yeah
the individual sections tho
Yeah each individual section seems simple enough of a curve to work
are you familiar with ib requirements by any chance
From there you can use the ol’ rotate around the x axis integration for each section and get a volume
No sorry
yeah that was the plan
Didnt take ib in high school
Wdym by justify in this context
I mean you could compare a cubic regression’s R squared error to that of a quintic
And show how much closer it fits the dataset
And if it’s not a negligible difference that’s justifiable
Like yeah more parameters = better tuning but again going back to my error comments earlier that also should be within reason
Tbh you could get away with parabolas for the middle sections
Those seem rather parabolic
What was the difference in R2?
idk i didnt check
but like i made the parabola degree really high
so the fit was probabkly better
anyways i have to go now thank you for the help
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Why is this wrong? Both graphs are less then y 6
If I’m reading this right, the range of both of your graphs need to be the set of all numbers less than 6
In both graphs the range indeed includes only numbers less than 6 - but you’re supposed to use every single number that is less than 6
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Why is the answer not factored?
My answer key didnt
It didnt say factor or anything
Should it have?
Idk
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In (c) how is the range from 0 to pos inf?
we can never get postive values (except 0 and 1) from the f o g equation
when you plug in 0 you get 1, when 1 you get 0, when 4 you get -1
it goes to neg inf from 1
You get what with 4?
! What the hell am I doing here?
got it thanks
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i don’t know how do i write my answer because it had x10^12
i don't think the intended answer is that large
nope
are you sure?
what i mean is, are all the algebra books the same
are all the calc books the same
etc
yeah
do i do 4! 5! and 6! ?
there’s an example like this one in my book but the amount of each books are different
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Can someone explain me the second part of this exercise?
Why is it just 2 integrals?
Completely bamboozled rn
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Anyone can give an explanation or maybe see a mistake here ?
the answers are obvious
they are maybe like preparing you for more complicated problems where it's not obvious, so when they do integrals it's necessary but familiar
Actually it's not obvious for me, cause i do understand the part of P(A ∩ B)/P(B), but i dont understand why it's P(A)*P(B)
Sure if it's A and B are independent you can write P(A ∩ B) = P(A)*P(B) , but where is the "/" P(B)
@long stirrup i just miss this part.
the bus arrives uniformly between 10:15 and 10:30
part b is not different from part a
i can't help with this, it's not your fault
Thank you in particular, gonna have to rethink about it, maybe i get it somehow.
i see what you mean now, they multiply 2 integrals
instead of division by 1/2 it looks like multiplication by 1/2
yeah that's a question mark
If i remember correctly P(A|B) is defined as = P(A ∩ B)/P(B) and if P(A ∩ B) = P(A)*P(B) if independently you should get P(A)
Interesting fact:
In the exercises has been already in the past examples some mistakes he made.
Sure i already considered that, but i dont know. It doesnt really hold with what in here i think. Maybe i miss some important detail.
the numerator is not inrependent events, one is completely inside of another
their intersection is the first event
AHHHH, i see it now. Omg, it was so easy and direct in front of myself
Thank you so much. Dammit thought too complex.
Didn't considered the intersection of the two events.
the gif will do
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oh righy i onlky saw the second pic
its limit will be zero
no
it will tend to zero*
so treat it as dx
could be wrong as fucjk but:
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I'm just tryin' to solve it, I'm still a beginner in calculus 2
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I need some help
I hope someone can help me today
My problem is
The following information is provided about a function
Dm(f) = {x E Rix -::f:.-61\x-::/:- 6}
f(-1 1) = 0, f(-7) = 0 and f(-3) = 0
f(O) = 2
f(x) > 0 in the intervals]-11; -7[,]-3; 6[ and ]6; oh [
f'(-9) = 0, f'(0) = 0 and f'(9) = 0
fer growing in the intervals ]-oo;-9], ]-6; 6 [ and ] 9; oh [
a) Write down the coordinates of the curves of the graph with the coordinate axes.
b) Sketch the graph of a function that fits the given information.
So we have to draw a graph where the following points should stand
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Hello...
It's my birthday friends and I hope you will spend some time on this.
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happy birthday my man! wish you all of best luck!
X axis: -11,0, -7,0, -3, 0
Y axis: 0,2
here you go man
@vivid mauve
Thank you very much!
How do you know?
What do I do after that?
a) Write down the coordinates of the curves of the graph with the coordinate axes.
b) Sketch the graph of a function that fits the given information.
We have task a and b
What kind of one have we made?
.
Which program should I use?
Do you know geogrobra?
How should I insert them?
your copybook
copybook?
yes, your copybook
So I have to draw it? What should the points be?
.
So I take a ruler and puts the points on?
and take the cords
yes
here
just the left point draw 11 there
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Bro we are not done
I LITERALLY GAVE YOU THE ANSWERS
In b does it say that we must make a function regulation?
What
We need to make a function that describes the coordinates?
<@&286206848099549185> is there anyone else who can help.
Can u draw the line on it
Then try it on the GDC calculator idk
Graphic display
I’m actually dumb
I didn’t scroll far up enough
Should I do as he said?
I have the points up there and are they correct?
I think it is task a that has been done further up
Task b we have to create a function
Can u send the initial question again
Yesss
The following information is provided about a function
Dm(f) = {x E Rix -::f:.-61\x-::/:- 6}
f(-1 1) = 0, f(-7) = 0 and f(-3) = 0
f(O) = 2
f(x) > 0 in the intervals]-11; -7[,]-3; 6[ and ]6; oh [
f'(-9) = 0, f'(0) = 0 and f'(9) = 0
fer growing in the intervals ]-oo;-9], ]-6; 6 [ and ] 9; oh [
a) Write down the coordinates of the curves of the graph with the coordinate axes.
b) Sketch the graph of a function that fits the given information.
soooo
Can someone help?
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Can I ask a question in here
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i need help with this one
i know the total % of Bel, Cherry, and spring is 69.4%
and there's 38 employees scattered into the stores
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if 69.4% employees work in those places then how much will now work there
100-69.3=30.6?
yep so what is the total employee count
total employee count is 38
ok so my question is what is the difference between salaried and hourly
is salary the amount you get per year
and hourly is the amount per hour
a person gets
for salaried they get a fixed amount of money based on their work and hourly workers get their salary based on how many hours they have worked for
ok so there was a prior question i had which was this
how do i know if they are talking abotu a salaried or hourly
because here i did 5:38
if they don't mention hourly or salaried then include both if they mention then use the one that's mentioned
so for my csse, do i use both salary and hourly, or just salary
it's not mentioned so use both
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im not really sure how to start/what to do here
i started calculating $\frac{dy}{dx}$ for the $y = \sqrt{ \frac{x}{x+1} }$
la garce
but im not really sure if thats the right thing to do
afaik, we can say that the gradient of the normal to y will be the inverse of dy/dx
1/(dy/Dx)
and this can be rearranged into the form you are given
la garce
yep
is dx/dy the correct notation there?
but often times it functions like a fraction
la garce
yeah
alright
is it still necessary to calculate dy/dx using the first given equation?
i guess so, and then subsitute that into $(\frac{dy}{dx})^-1$
la garce
yep
thank you
let me see how it goes before i close it
$\frac {(\frac{x+1}{x})^\frac{1}{2}} {2(x+1)^2}$
la garce
((x+1)/x)^1/2 = sqrt(x+1)/sqrt(x)
we have (x+1)^something in numerator and denominator
a^b/a^c = a^(b-c)
btw
i made a mistake
it is -1/(dy/dx)
$\frac{1}{2x^\frac{1}{2}(x+1)^\frac{3}{2}}$
la garce
[ 2 * sqrt(x+1)^3 * sqrt(x) ]^-1
i dont think its possible/necessary to simplify further here
there should be a minus
and we can put all that into a sqrt
a^1/2 * b^3/2 = sqrt(a * b^3)
because b^3/2 = (b^3)^1/2 = sqrt(b^3)
$(2\sqrt{x}\sqrt{(x+1)^3})^{-1}$
la garce
thats what ive got so far
remember that what we got here is dy/dx
yeah
we now want -1/(dy/dx)
yep
but yeah, looks good i think
alright cool
its an open book test, and its worth 8 marks out of 50
its not that bad if i only get 1/2 of the question right, im quite confident the rest is correct anyway
and the marks dont matter toward a final year mark anyway
alright, so
$-1(2\sqrt{x}\sqrt{(x+1)^3})$
la garce
la garce
the problem there though is sqrt(2) is not an integer and it specifies p and q are both integers
i followed the same kind of logic as simplifying $\sqrt{9 \times 2} = 3\sqrt{2}$
la garce
oh wait, it just has to be rational, i misinterpreted Q as Z
so perfect, p = sqrt(2) and q = 3
@haughty mural thanks for all your help, really appreciate it
oh right that is true
yeah
there was probably one minor mistake made somewhere
perhaps instead of 2 it should have been 4
wolframalpha gives this for dy/dx
i probably used the wrong rule then
ohhhh
i used chain rule with quotient rule
whew
ohhhhhhhhhh youre right
haha
oh my god 💀
yeah haha
i was worried my dy/dx was wrong from the start
it would have been an absolute pain to restart
alright, well thanks for all your help, i appreciate it a lot
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this should be 1 tailed
but it seems like 2 tailed
idk how
shouldnt it be 1 percent
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HELP!
What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin.
2. I have begun but got stuck midway.
3. I got an answer but I was told that it's wrong.
4. I got an answer and would like my work checked.
5. I have a question about someone else's work/solution.
6. I have completed the problem and don't need help anymore. Thank you.
7. None of the above
- I DONT UNDERSTAND
What's the goal?
There's nothing to solve
factorize it
yes
So the goal is to factor 8w^3 - 125?
That's a perfectly fine polynomial, so there's nothing to solve unless you're given an instruction like factoring it or something like that.
Can you show the instructions above the section that question h is in?
Oh, OK.
Chai T. Rex
OK, what's the cube root of 125?
OK, so we have (2w)^3 - 5^3.
So, with a^3 - b^3, a = 2w and b = 5.
So, one factor will be a - b.
So, one factor is 2w - 5.
ooooo
Does that make sense so far?
is it because the formula
It's because whenever you see a^n - b^n with the same exponent on both and a subtraction, one factor will always be a - b.
Well, if you have a^4 - b^4, one factor will be a - b.
Same with any exponent, as long as you're subtracting the powers and the exponents are the same.
I GET IT
The exponents don't exactly cancel.
only for subtracting?
Yes.
And then the other factor will be like (a^2 + ab + b^2).
how do you know there is only 2 factors
😢
Then, you factor the (a^2 + ab + b^2).
Do you want to learn how to get the other factor for any exponent?
yes
Yes, after that, it's done.
yay
OK, so let's say you have a^5 - b^5.
One factor will be a - b.
The other factor will be a^4 b^0 + a^3 b^1 + a^2 b^2 + a^1 b^3 + a^0 b^4.
See how the exponents on a start at 5 - 1 and go down to zero?
And the exponents on b start at 0 and go up to 5 - 1?
why
a^4 b^0 + a^3 b^1 + a^2 b^2 + a^1 b^3 + a^0 b^4
Well, first, do you see that pattern?
yes but how come it wasnt in the other one
What other one?
this
Oh, well, this is for when you have a^5 - b^5 with a 5 exponent.
You have a 3 exponent.
a^3 - b^3.
So, the other factor will start with 3 - 1 as the exponent on a.
So, that's 2.
So, a^2 b^0 + a^1 b^1 + a^0 b^2.
Which is a^2 + ab + b^2.
So, you subtract one from the matching exponents.
You put that on a.
You put 0 on b.
Then you go down by one each time for a's exponent and up by one each time for b's exponent.
So, if you have a^3 - b^3, you get (a - b)(a^2 b^0 + a^1 b^1 + a^0 b^2) = (a - b)(a^2 + ab + b^2).
If you have a^7 - b^7, you get (a - b)(a^6 b^0 + a^5 b^1 + a^4 b^2 + a^3 b^3 + a^2 b^4 + a^1 b^5 + a^0 b^6) = (a - b)(a^6 + a^5 b + a^4 b^2 + a^3 b^3 + a^2 b^4 + a b^5 + b^6).
Does the process make sense?
i dont need to learn that yet
Oh, OK.
Well, back to your problem, you have (a - b)(a^2 + ab + b^2).
So, fill in a and b there. What do you get?
(3x-5)(3x^2+3x(5)+5^2)
Almost. a = 2w.
One thing I recommend when you're substituting is to surround what you put in with parentheses.
So, like ((2w) - (5))((2w)^2 + (2w)(5) + (5)^2).
okay i will do that next time
The reason why is because (2w)^2 = 4w^2, not 2w^2.
Parentheses help to keep everything straight.
So, you have (2w - 5)(4w^2 + 10w + 25).
And then you can factor 4w^2 + 10w + 25.
Still there?
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what would be best way to approach this one
Like
30t+50t?
t+2?
i got 3 hours
i hate how i dont have answer key i cant even tell if id di right 😭
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what's wrong with my answer
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pls
idk anything
do you know about integration?
yes
ok
so we have to integrate the velocity
,tex $$s(t) = \int v(t) \dd t$$
@mild fractal
s(t) is a common notation for position
v(t) is a common notation for velocity
is like -1 and 3 the bounds?
,tex $$s(t) \int_{-1}^3 \left(t^3 + 29t^2 - 30t\right) \dd t$$
i forgot abt that sry
no ur all good
@mild fractal
@wooden widget heres the power rule of integration that will help you
do i just evaluate the intergral
yeah thats correct
the particle's positon is 512/3 units from its starting point
isnt it 0
nope
im confused
,tex Net Displacement: $s(t) = \int_{-1}^3 \left( t^3 + 29t^2 - 30t \right) \dd t$
@mild fractal
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confusing me
no mention of scale compared to graph
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How do i prove that if A is the dedekind cut for root(2), then AxA = 2?
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How do I solve (i)
And this is the question
you'll need a formula involving arctan
yes, use this formula
a can be any number
so find the value of a that makes that formula equal to your integral
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can someone solve this w me step by step ty
for both questions, a reasonable approach would be to first find T(1,0) and T(0,1)
how do i do this 😭 sorry
work out how to express (1,0) as a linear combination of (1, -1) and (2, 1)
then do the same for (0,1)
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Are these steps alright? Do you see why we'd want to do them?
If you get (1,0) as a linear combination of those two, then by linearity you can find T((1,0)) (same idea for (0,1))
You then would know how T acts on the standard basis vectors, which hopefully should easily get you the matrix 
okay!
(let me know when you have the standard basis vectors in terms of (1, -1) and (2, 1)
)
okk
is this a matrix?
i got 2 same matrices
Well I mean you could create the basis transition matrices, but more the idea was you find $a$ and $b$ such that $\pmqty{1 \ 0} = a \pmqty{1 \ -1} + b \pmqty{2 \ 1}$ (similar the $c$ and $d$ such that $\pmqty{0 \ 1} = c \pmqty{1 \ -1} + d \pmqty{2 \ 1}$)
@vernal matrix
i turned it into a matrix and solved it, but i dont know how to get a and b from the solved matrix :0
oops i can simplify one step further
ohh
a and b are both 1/3
all a b c d 1/3 right
Looks good to me 
okayy
So now, you know that $T$ is linear, and that $\pmqty{1 \ 0} = \frac13 \pmqty{1 \ -1} + \frac13 \pmqty{2 \ 1}$ and also that $\pmqty{0 \ 1} = -\frac23 \pmqty{1 \ -1} + \frac13 \pmqty{2 \ 1}$
so can you find $T\qty( \pmqty{1 \ 0} )$ and $T\qty( \pmqty{0 \ 1} )$ from there?
@vernal matrix
i dont know how to use what we just found for the T part
You know what linearity means, right? 
hmm not really now that u say
Naughty 
sorry prof chartbit 
Anyways, basically, it means that for any two vectors $\mathbf{v_1, v_2}$ you have $T(\mathbf{v_1} + \mathbf{v_2}) = T(\mathbf{v_1}) + T(\mathbf{v_2})$ , and that if you have a vector $\mathbf{v}$ and scalar $c$ that $T(c\mathbf{v}) = cT(\mathbf{v})$
linear function straight line
@vernal matrix
You can write them as "one", so like if you had two vectors $\mathbf{v_1, v_2}$ and two scalars $c_1, c_2$ then $T(c_1 \mathbf{v_1} + c_2 \mathbf{v_2}) = c_1 T(\mathbf{v_1}) + c_2 T( \mathbf{v_2})$
@vernal matrix
ok that makes sense
(and yep, it's a function, a linear one
)
Anyways, if we go back up here, we have something that looks like the last message I said, right?
yes 1/3 being the constants
no
scalars
🧠
wait so to clarify, we know that T is linear because for (1,0) and (0,1), they can be written as a linear combination of (1, -1) and (2,1)
why did we check 1 0 and 0 1 tho?
More that they tell you T is linear, you just take that as is, for a moment the (1,0) and (0,1) don't matter, so assume that it's true
oh hmm
The idea is that they give you the image of two vectors, and that alongside with linearity allows you to find the image of any other vector, the first step being expressing desired vector in terms of those (1, -1) and (2, 1)
And the idea for the second part of the question is that you want the matrix of the linear map [with respect to the standard basis]
desired vector is (1 2) ?
So you see where the standard basis vectors go, and then you form the matrix from that (more on that later!)
Well we desire the image of (1, 0) and (0, 1)
Yep, reading my mind again 

Anyways, time to make you do a little bit of work 
i am ready 
Back to here 
We have $T\qty( {\color{green} \pmqty{1 \ 0}} )$, and know that ${\color{green} \pmqty{1 \ 0} } = \frac13 \pmqty{1 \ -1} + \frac13 \pmqty{2 \ 1}$, do you have any ideas on what I want you to do now?
@vernal matrix
(you better have, seeing you've been reading my mind, this isn't the time to stop
)
Wow, you're quite far ahead of me
didn't even get the actual answers myself 
Give me one second 
2/3 where? 
oh lord lemme do maths again
there should be a 2/3 somewhere sure 
Though at least for now, I wanna see your steps 
Alright, let's go through this together, bit by bit 
Let's go back to here, we'll do this one step at a time
what do you think I want you to do here? (it's a very tiny thing)
multiply the 1/3 to the (1 -1) and 1/3 (2 1) ?
Nope, don't do that 
hmm
Right, maybe some colours might help 
We have $T\qty( {\color{green} \pmqty{1 \ 0}} )$, and know that ${\color{green} \pmqty{1 \ 0} } = \frac13 \pmqty{1 \ -1} + \frac13 \pmqty{2 \ 1}$, do you have any ideas on what I want you to do now?
@vernal matrix
Yep 
That's it! Now, we know that $T$ is linear, and we're at $T\qty( {\color{green} \pmqty{1 \ 0}} ) = T\qty( \frac13 \pmqty{1 \ -1} + \frac13 \pmqty{2 \ 1} )$ so far, do you have any other ideas of what we can do, given that $T$ is linear?
@vernal matrix
Oh, and I think I forgot to say, T is linear 
take out the scalars?
Sounds very good to me, can you show me how? 
Lovely 
Perfect 
(oh btw there are hidden backslashes
$T\qty( \pmqty{-2/3 \\ -1/3} )$
gets you $T\qty( \pmqty{-2/3 \ -1/3} )$)
Awwww
mind you some of these are from the TeXit bot's default preamble which has some of the packages I'm making use of (so in your own you may need to include them!)
Heheh it shouldn't, but I'll let you off with that one
you've done well and gotten it!
(if you want it as the vector form keep the \pmqty{-2/3 \\ -1/3} there!)
risa★
yippee
Perfect 
Well, now, we know how T acts on the standard basis vectors 
Do you know how to make the matrix of a linear map?
one part corresponds to x and the other to y (?) i dunno
Kind of like that, like the first column is the image of the first basis vector, and the second one the image of the second basis vector (as a simplified version)
okok
so i would combine the two into one matrix basically
as the first and second column
i do remember doing smth similar
how do i know which one to put first?
pls finish typing tho sorry for asking a lot
Put the one corresponding to (1, 0) first, then the (0, 1) second, as that's the order of the basis
okk
(noooo don't worry! I was trying to figure out how to explain the "extended" version of what I said
)
You could make a new "backwards standard basis", {(0, 1), (1, 0)} (so the standard basis but in the backwards version, then if you wanted the matrix of T with respect to that new basis, you find what T(0, 1) gets sent to, but in terms of the basis {(0,1), (1, 0)}, and make that your first column
you do similar with the next one, find the coordinates of T(1, 0) with respect to the "backwards basis" and make that your second column
[there is also the idea of taking different bases on each side, in fact, remind me about this at the end, there's something cool!]
ok i sOrta get it
wait so the standard basis being 1 0 and 0 1 is like a general thing
Yep, that's a general thing
so now, we know the matrix B
As I kinda described to you, we have $B = \pmqty{\frac13 & -\frac23 \ \frac23 & -\frac13}$, this matrix is the matrix of $T$ with respect to the standard basis
@vernal matrix
i can use the matrix B to multiply to any vector to get T of that vector?
Yep, so if you have any vector in standard basis, if you multiply by B, you get T of that vector
Now, time to subject you to some more maths 
ok!
Let's go back to the original question, we have that $T\qty( \pmqty{1 \ -1} ) = \pmqty{1 \ 1}$ and $T\qty( \pmqty{2 \ 1} ) = \pmqty{0 \ 1}$, but notice that
[
\pmqty{1 \ 1} = -\frac13 \pmqty{1 \ -1} + \frac23 \pmqty{2 \ 1}
]
and
[
\pmqty{0 \ 1} = -\frac23 \pmqty{1 \ -1} + \frac13 \pmqty{2 \ 1}
]
yes
@vernal matrix
Right, got it
sorry for the wait 
Anyways, say instead we wanted the matrix of T but with respect to the basis {(1, -1), (2, 1)} (it happens to be a basis
)
okok
We also want to take it in that particular order, so (1, -1) is the first one, and (2, 1) the second basis vector
as in, instead of (1 0 0 1)
Yep yep 
mhm
Now, anyways, the first column is the coordinates of T(1, -1) but those being with respect to the basis, so those coordinates are (-1/3, 2/3)
And also the second column is similar, the coordinates with T(2, 1) but in the new basis, so those are gonna be (-2/3, 1/3)
Does that at least make sense?
hmmm
how come?
Because the coordinates with respect to the new basis are like, for this case, ( [whatever's the coefficient of (1, -1)], [whatever's the coefficient of (2, 1)] )
Yep yep
and cause now we have them like here 
ok ok ye
Anyways, cause we have the coordinates of ${\color{green} T\qty( \pmqty{1 \ -1} ) }$ with respect to the new basis is ${\color{green} \pmqty{-\frac13 \ \frac23} }$,
and the coordinates of ${\color{orange} T\qty( \pmqty{2 \ 1} ) }$ with respect to the new basis are ${\color{orange} \pmqty{-\frac23 \ \frac13} }$,
the matrix of $T$, with respect to the basis $\qty{ {\color{green} \pmqty{1 \ -1} }, {\color{orange} \pmqty{2 \ 1} } }$, then becomes
[
\pmqty{ {\color{green} -\frac13 } & {\color{orange} -\frac23 } \ {\color{green} \frac23 } & {\color{orange} \frac13 } }
]
@vernal matrix
nice 
yeah!
But hopefully that's somewhat clear how it works? 
how do we know if something is a valid basis ?
You can e.g. check whether they're linearly independent and that you have as many vectors as the dimension of the space (for example here, we have those two vectors in R^2, so just need to check linear independence, which is "easy" because they're not scalar multiples of each other!)
You can check linear independence however you wish
Free variable -> dependent or independent I forgor :0
Free variables mean you're dependent 
This is how I was trying to solve this part also, but I got something weird so I think it’s wrong, what did I misunderstand? :0 
(1, 1) on the RHS!
You wanted the coordinates of T(1, -1) = (1, 1) in terms of the "new basis"!
i thought new basis was {(1, -1), (2, 1)}?
it is! But you have (1, 1) in standard basis, but want it in "new" basis
does the 1 1 come from here?
Yep, and the fact that T(1, -1) is (1, 1)
But (1, 1) in standard basis not new basis 
earlier, were we solving for the matrix of T with respect to the basis {(1, 0), (0, 1)} (standard basis)
is my understanding correct :0
Yep, that was the aim before
we wanted the matrix of T with respect to the standard basis (on both sides, both domain and image)
The aim now is the matrix of T, but instead the basis {(1, -1), (2, 1)} (again both sides) 
and in that case, we did this
which is why im confused why for the new basis, {(1, -1), (2, 1)} , its not (1,-1) on RHS
