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sonic bone
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idk i was tryna turn it into a radian to get the cos outta the unit circle like he did in the video but he already started off wit radians and got a perfect number outta the unit circle for cos

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sweet shard
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Then take the cosine and sine of the resulting angle

sonic bone
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i got 7pi/2

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i dont know the cosine and sine of that

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is it this

sweet shard
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Use period of cosine and sine to evaluate it

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Do you know what period of a function is?

sonic bone
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is it like 2pi+k or whatever

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light raft
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How did they get a -9x??

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light raft
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Im so confused rn

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When I did it I got

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$2x^2 +9x-5$

thorny flameBOT
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Rahm Bow

lost laurel
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$(2x -1)(x+5) = 2x^2 +10x -x -5)$

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Unquieterstew

light raft
lost laurel
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wait ur right

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that is wierd

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lol

light raft
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im so confused

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idk what to do

acoustic pecan
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-x+10x

sonic dawn
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sometimes you’re right and what you read is wrong

acoustic pecan
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aha

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sign blindness strikes me again

light raft
lost laurel
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seems so

light raft
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Why does symbolab give me their answer

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I ended up with 2x^2+12x+10 then factored to 2(x^2+6x+5)

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Anyne know

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@lost laurel

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<@&286206848099549185>

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anyone?

acoustic pecan
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im just questioning my sanity

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i have seen the issue with mine eyes

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this denominator should be (2x-1)(x+5)

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you get (2x+1)/(x+5)

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multiply by (x-5)/(x-5)

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[(2x+1)(x-5)]/[(x+5)(x-5)]=(2x^2-9x-5)/[(x+5)(x-5)]

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weird how they just brush over it, carry on, then magically fix it

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@light raft

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light raft
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I THOUGHT YOU CANT CANCEL WHEN ADDING OR SUBTRACTING

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tired lagoon
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why dont we multiply by rdrdtheta

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tired lagoon
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when we do this transformation

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sweet shard
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Polar coordinates

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spiral stream
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How do you do this calculus related rates problem ?

young tinsel
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A related Rates Problem

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Okay so here is the general way to solve a Related Rates problem

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  1. Draw a model/diagram of the scenario. Identify which variables are changing and which of them don't change. Varies according to Scenario.
  2. Identify the rates we are given and the rate we want to solve for. Ensure it makes Physical sense as a rate can be negative or positive. Depends according to the context of a question
  3. Get a starting formula that relates the two different rates together. You may have to sometimes rewrite it in terms of one variable, but it depends on the scenario.
  4. Implicitly differentiate both sides, alongside using the chain rule
  5. Once you have the rate you want to solve for isolated you can then plug in your knowns.
  6. Lastly ask yourself does this rate make physical sense according to my scenario (Ex. A tank is depleting water at a rate of 50 L / s. Find the rate in height wrt time when the water level reaches 4m. Mathematically expressing the depletion rate: dV/dt = - 50 L / s )
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Have you done Optimization Problems?

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acoustic tangle
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The e-s are basis vectors of the domain of whatever linear transformation is in question

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Similarly e'-s form a basis for the image

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@scarlet crown Has your question been resolved?

young tinsel
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Applied Maximum and Minimum problems?

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clear knot
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how to solve with Laplace Transform?

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clear knot
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LHS is easy, i memorized it

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and in that case if RHS is correct what is the LPT?

clear knot
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neon iron
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I was just wondering what do I do with z

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fluid belfry
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hi i was revising my notes and found this

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this is box starting from A and going to O

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i've written work done by weight is 0, shouldn't it be -mgR ?

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lucid junco
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😭

fluid belfry
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yea that's physics

lucid junco
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😭

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alr done

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fair ruin
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can i get helpp

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fair ruin
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trigonometry help pls

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can i write down the answer

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vernal matrix
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fair ruin
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sin(2x-15°)=0.75

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additional maths trigonometry

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i need 4 values of x

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rain scroll
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if I have a function f(x) = { x if x>_0 , 1/x if x <0}
Then if I want to find local maximum/minimum and global maximum/minimum.
Im having trouble understanding if 0 is considered a local min or nothing at all?

rain scroll
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Since if we go towards zero from negative side its minus infinity. Or towards zero from positive its 0.

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Its a local min if x is bigger than or equal to 0. But for the entire function, im having issues here thinking this one through

odd pagoda
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local min means that f(x)>=f(0) for all nearby x (where "nearby" can be quite close). is that the case here?

rain scroll
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"f(x_0) is a local minimum if there is an interval (a,b), x_0 belongs to (a,b) so f(x_0) <_ f(x) for all x which belongs to (a,b)differencnce Df" (sorry about bad translation of the definition)

odd pagoda
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its fine

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basically what I wrote but with the necessary technical details

rain scroll
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Right

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So, since for example f(-0.001) is lesser than f(0) then we dont have a local min then?

odd pagoda
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basically, yes

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more precisely, no matter how small we make that interval (a,b), you will always have some number a<x<0 such that f(x) < f(0)

rain scroll
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Awesome, thanks mate!

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neon iron
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Is 0 included in the list of natural numbers?

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neon iron
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internet searches suggest that it doesn't

sharp wyvern
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nope

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not in natural

marble gate
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yes

sharp wyvern
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its in whole numbers

neon iron
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dunno why

sharp wyvern
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some casses?

neon iron
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yeah

marble gate
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the peano axioms have 0 as a natural

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like, it's axiom 1. 0 is a natural number

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lol

sharp wyvern
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damn

neon iron
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hmmm....so I guess it is part of natural numbers then eh?

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then I guess the whole distinction between whole numbers and natural numbers would be useless

marble gate
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I believe that if you try to construct the natural numbers without 0, it will collapse

marble gate
sharp wyvern
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-1 isnt a whole number either

odd pagoda
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it depends on who you ask

marble gate
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...-1 is a whole number

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what

odd pagoda
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there is no correct answer

sharp wyvern
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wait what

odd pagoda
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sometimes 0 is included, sometimes it isnt

acoustic tangle
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Yeah

neon iron
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ahh I see

sharp wyvern
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thats integer no?

marble gate
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but without 0 in the naturals you don't have an identity such that a+0=a

odd pagoda
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it doesnt really matter in the end. you can always just rephrase your theorems for the other situation

marble gate
odd pagoda
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not always

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also depends on who you ask

neon iron
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well in this question

marble gate
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the idea that whole numbers are only the naturals is bizarre

neon iron
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what would the base case be in this question then?

odd pagoda
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well this is a question about how your course defines the naturals

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how should we answer that

marble gate
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r=1

neon iron
acoustic tangle
marble gate
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this just says that n is a natural, not that n is every natural

odd pagoda
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n=0 would also work. just an empty sum on the left

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OFTA

Prove that
$$\sum^{n}_{r =1} (3r-1) = n^2(n + 1); n \in \N$$
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l.53 ...m^{n}_{r =1} (3r-1) = n^2(n + 1); n \in \N
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of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have
misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct
spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue,
and I'll forget about whatever was undefined.

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neon iron
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$$\sum^{n}_{r =1} (3r-1) = n^2(n + 1); n \in N$$

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marble gate
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the sum of no numbers is 0 lol

neon iron
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AHh

odd pagoda
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if $n=0$, then $\sum_{r=1}^0 (3r-1)=0$ is an empty sum

neon iron
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smort

thorny flameBOT
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Denascite

neon iron
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thanks a lot guys

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exotic carbon
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log(a/b) = log a - log b

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log(a^2) = 2 loga

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log ab = log a + log b

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that's all you need

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half field
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Hey there, can someone please teach me part b ?

turbid zealot
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hm

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idk if this is right

half field
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I did integrate it

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For s

fluid belfry
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show ur work

half field
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I'm in trouble of the c

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After i integrated

onyx yacht
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I haven't checked your integration, but for the constant, set at t=0, s=0, since it has covered no distance at t=0

onyx yacht
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At t=0

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onyx yacht
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Did you plug in (0,0) for (t,s)

half field
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its 0

onyx yacht
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So you should have gotten c=0

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Yes

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You can go ahead and calculate the displacements required now

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Distance travelled 'in the third second' implies you need to find where it was at t=2 sec and t=3 sec

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And deduce stuff from there

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Notice the word 'distance' and not 'displacement' so you might have to look for where the velocity becomes 0 and a change of direction occurs

half field
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to find distance travlled i should integrate something ?

onyx yacht
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You don't need to integrate anything else.

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You already have the position as a function of time

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Use that, while taking care of when the the particles changes its direction

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To get the distance

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fallow dagger
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f(x)=(e^x)/(x-3) i need to find the derivative and i don t understand what formula to use here. i guess this is a composite function, what is f and what is g

restive inlet
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not really a composite function here

ionic oar
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quotient rule

restive inlet
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you have a quotient of functions

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quotient rule would be applicable

fallow dagger
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f(x)/g(x)?

restive inlet
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no

fallow dagger
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this one no?

restive inlet
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a fraction by itself is not a rule,
and you shouldn't be using f(x) there as its already being used

brazen ocean
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f'g-g'f/g^2

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aha

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aight

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junior jacinth
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can I get some help with part b? thanks

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junior jacinth
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this is the answer for a

manic swan
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Then solve for x

ripe echo
manic swan
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-e^x(e^x +2) = (e^x - 2)³

junior jacinth
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yea

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and then I solve it

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i get e^3x +7e^2x +14e^x+8

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I put that in the calculator I got -4 -2 and -1

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that's the ans for e^x right

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if I want x i'm supposed to find ln(x)

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but ln of any of those negative numbers isn't defined

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what am I gonna do then

manic swan
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@junior jacinth calc everything:
-e^(2x)-2e^x = e^(3x) - 6e^(2x) + 12e^x -8

junior jacinth
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can you check this rq

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am I doing smth wrong?

manic swan
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=
-e^(2x)-2e^x - [ e^(3x) - 6e^(2x) + 12e^x -8 ] = 0

=
5e^(2x) -14e^x - e^(3x) + 8 = 0

Put e^x = t
= +5t²-t³-14t+8=0

manic swan
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Before Last line

junior jacinth
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but it's -3e^2x (-2)

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right?

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then that would be +6 if I multiply

manic swan
fallow dagger
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shouldn t it also be -8 at the end

junior jacinth
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wait this is the formula right

fallow dagger
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yeah and b is 2

manic swan
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Let me write the result

junior jacinth
junior jacinth
fallow dagger
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no, if b is -2 the formula should ve been (a+b)^3

junior jacinth
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ohhhh

manic swan
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(e^x)³ + 3(e^x)²(-2) + 3(e^x)(-2)² +(-2)³

junior jacinth
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I got it i got it

fallow dagger
manic swan
manic swan
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Now solve for t

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And replace t value when you done

junior jacinth
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if I calc it, it's 2

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e^x = 2

junior jacinth
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if I solve for x, that would be -0.305

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right?

manic swan
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e^x = 0.737
x= ln(0.737)

manic swan
fallow dagger
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did u get the answer ?

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if u did, send a pic how did u solve the equation here, ping me and close it, cus i can t figure it out

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junior jacinth
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the ans key was saying smth else

junior jacinth
fallow dagger
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can u send a pic

junior jacinth
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but that's not correct

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you said

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imma correct it now

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thanks so much

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aight

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solemn jolt
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Can someone help me with this question? I don't quite understand the meaning of symmetric group.

solemn jolt
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this is the english translation of the question from chat gpt

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and apart from the messed up notation it's accurate

strange whale
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it's like S_n the permutation group, except you're permuting elements of another group G now

solemn jolt
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what are bijections

strange whale
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invertible functions

solemn jolt
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i know what what a bijective function is

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but so a set of all the functions that are bijective?

strange whale
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yes

solemn jolt
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can a set have functions instead of elements?

strange whale
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why not

solemn jolt
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oh ok

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S(G) is a set of all the functions that are bijective?

strange whale
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all the functions from G to G that are bijective

solemn jolt
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all the functions that have G as domain and G as codomain as well

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do we care what these functions are exactly?

strange whale
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not really

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we're only looking at specific examples here

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left translations as they call it

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"multiplying on the left by a" if you wanna be less fancy

solemn jolt
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ok ok

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lemme tell what I understand from the notation

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and you tell me if it's right

strange whale
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ok

solemn jolt
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so first the function _atau is defined as a function that takes element g from the G set and multiplies is by a which is also in the G set

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and the second function (.)tau is a function that takes element a from the G set and gives out a function that is Basically a bijective function of G from set of functions S(G)

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and we wanna see if the homomorphism criteria applies to the function (.)tau

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that right?

strange whale
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sounds good

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if you're not convinced, you should try and show that _a tau is indeed a bijection G->G first

solemn jolt
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oh yeah

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we wanna see if _a tau is both surjective and injective

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so we wanna make sure first that no 2 unequal elements from G, going through the function _a tau yields the same element

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so _at(g_1) =/= _at(g_2)

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and that every element from G is reached by the Function _at

strange whale
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yeah

strange whale
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i.e. 'if ag_1 = ag_2 then g_1 = g_2'

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that's what it boils down to here

solemn jolt
strange whale
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every element in the group is invertible you know

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a in particular

solemn jolt
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what does invertible mean?

strange whale
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has an inverse

solemn jolt
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oh

strange whale
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group inverses

solemn jolt
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has an image?

solemn jolt
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one of the clauses that is a requirement for a group

strange whale
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yes

solemn jolt
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a o a' must be our neutral element in the group

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in group where o is the operation

strange whale
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right

solemn jolt
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ok how does every element being invertible help

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and do we know that the element a exists in set G?

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oh

strange whale
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betrachte fur a in G

solemn jolt
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it literally says there

strange whale
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yea

solemn jolt
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nevermind

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i still dk how to prove its surjectivity

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how can I show that a*g covers all the elements in G

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can I maybe use the fact that It's a group

strange whale
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it boils down to the fact that a has an inverse also

solemn jolt
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and therefore has closure?

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oh

strange whale
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_a tau(a' g) = g

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using your notation for inverses

solemn jolt
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oh

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that makes sense

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the a's cancel out

strange whale
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yea

solemn jolt
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and every element will be reached by the operation

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cool

strange whale
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aight

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now for the real deal

solemn jolt
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and a' g is also in group cuz of closure clause

solemn jolt
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I'm still a bit confused with the whole function going from a set full of elements to a set full of functions

strange whale
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o well

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you'll get used to it as von neumann said

solemn jolt
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is there like an example I can see to better understand it

solemn jolt
strange whale
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i don't know what you know so idk what example to cook up which will be insightful for you

solemn jolt
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wait so what we are tryinbg to prove is that (.)t(xy)=(.)t(x)(.)t(y)

strange whale
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no

solemn jolt
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oh

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isn't that group homomorphism?

strange whale
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the argument is the a here

solemn jolt
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a is just a random element from the set G right?

strange whale
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you're trying to show $_ {ab}\tau = _a\tau \circ _b\tau$

thorny flameBOT
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aPlatypus

solemn jolt
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yooo

strange whale
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i.e. stated in an easier way, multiplying by ab is the same thing as multiplying by b then multiplying by a

solemn jolt
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hmmm

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when I did an example of group homomorphism, we had two groups G and H for example like so (G, o) and (H, #)

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and we'd have to show that f(aob) = f(a) # f(b)

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for a certain function f

strange whale
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sure that's the same thing

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it's just that the notation for the translation is a bit weird

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$\tau(a \cdot b) = \tau(a) \circ \tau(b)$

thorny flameBOT
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aPlatypus

strange whale
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that's essentially what we have here

solemn jolt
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S(G) is a set but it is also a group

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oh ok

strange whale
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if you unfuck the notation

solemn jolt
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and instead of elements, it has functions

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and it also has some operation just like any group

strange whale
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yep

solemn jolt
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since it's the codomain and on the other side of the equal sign

strange whale
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yes

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function composition

solemn jolt
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ok ok

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ohh

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like (f o g)(x) = f(g(x)

strange whale
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yes

solemn jolt
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ok I understand it apart from the whole element to function thing

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so how do we actually show that?

strange whale
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each of these tau(a) tau(b) tau(ab) is a function yes

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multiplying on the left by a
multiplying on the left by b
multiplying on the left by ab

solemn jolt
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wait would this be valid to say: We have a set G and in this set there are a bunch of elements. and each of these elements map to a function from the set S(G) and those function are denoted as _at

strange whale
solemn jolt
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hmm

strange whale
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if you pierce through all the layers of notation, that's what you get

solemn jolt
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yes

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i get that

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i wish I knew how to use this math thing

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so I could write it out with their indexes behind them

strange whale
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I mean you're pretty much using it already

solemn jolt
strange whale
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$_a \tau$

thorny flameBOT
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aPlatypus

solemn jolt
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$_ {ab}\tau = _a\tau \circ _b\tau$

strange whale
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but let's stick with $\tau(a)$ it's more readable

thorny flameBOT
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AzerimA

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aPlatypus

solemn jolt
strange whale
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I mean do what you want

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if you want to use the cursed notation no problem

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I'll use it also

solemn jolt
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I think better to use yours

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sits easier in my brain

strange whale
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$\tau(a \cdot b) = \tau(a) \circ \tau(b)$ right so

thorny flameBOT
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aPlatypus

strange whale
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we want so show these two functions are equal, no matter what a and b in G are

solemn jolt
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yes

strange whale
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how do you show 2 functions are equal generally ?

solemn jolt
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we show that their outputs given equal inputs are the same?

strange whale
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yes right

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so let's look at $\tau(a\cdot b)(x)$ for an arbitrary $x \in G$

thorny flameBOT
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aPlatypus

strange whale
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$\tau(a\cdot b)$ is a function and we're applying that to $x$

thorny flameBOT
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aPlatypus

solemn jolt
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ok ok

strange whale
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that's why there's two parentheses

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right so what's that equal to ?

solemn jolt
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that's equal to _at(_bt(x))

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right?

strange whale
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that's what we're trying to show

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sure it's not too hard but let's take it step by step shall we

solemn jolt
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oh ok

strange whale
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just use the definition of tau(a.b)

solemn jolt
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wait bro

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can we actually go back to the cursed notation

strange whale
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uh ok

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double parens is more cursed for you I guess ?

solemn jolt
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I just see _at as a single function

strange whale
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yeah fine

solemn jolt
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and treat it like one letter f

strange whale
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$_{a\cdot b}\tau (x)$

thorny flameBOT
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aPlatypus

strange whale
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as you wish

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so what's that equal to ?

solemn jolt
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thanks, I appreciate it

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hmm

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isn't it just _at(_bt(x))?

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is there a step before?

strange whale
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I'm just taking it slow cause you're not used to all that stuff

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so it's better to do it one time very formally

solemn jolt
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please do. it's very helpful

strange whale
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and then you'll be fine for the rest of your life

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so

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so $_{a\cdot b}\tau(x)$ is $(a\cdot b)\cdot x$

thorny flameBOT
#

aPlatypus

strange whale
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now if you recall your group axioms

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you should be able to work a little bit with that expression on the right

solemn jolt
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hmm

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quick question

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in the right expresseion

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is the a and b indexes of tau

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?

strange whale
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no

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a.b is an element of the group G

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the whole index is a . b itself so to speak

solemn jolt
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huh

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$_{a}\tau \cdot\ _b\tau$

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how do i make cdot to an actual dot

strange whale
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\

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also it's not cdot you want

thorny flameBOT
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AzerimA

strange whale
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it's function composition

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usually it's noted as \circ

random zealot
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Yea

solemn jolt
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so is ${a\cdot b}\tau(x)$ the same as $({a}\tau \cdot\ _b\tau)(x)$

thorny flameBOT
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AzerimA

random zealot
# solemn jolt Can someone help me with this question? I don't quite understand the meaning of ...

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strange whale
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extraordinary synthesis and coordination, this I can get

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thanks gpt

strange whale
solemn jolt
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like (f o g)(x)

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f and g are both functions

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and it takes in x as an argument

strange whale
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okok

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but you're not showing anything

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you're just saying it's true

solemn jolt
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ooh

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is what I wrote on the write the answer?

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like it's $_a\tau \circ _b\tau$

thorny flameBOT
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AzerimA

solemn jolt
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?

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ok I'm tripping

strange whale
#

you have to prove this equality of function is true

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like yes it is true

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otherwise your profs wouldn't have told you to show it

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but just saying the equality over and over won't prove anything

solemn jolt
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I thought what I was showing wasn't the equality

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i thought it was a step going towards it

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now I realize that I'm tripping

strange whale
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that wasn't a step

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that was teleporting yourself to the solution

solemn jolt
#

ahahaha

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lol yeah

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so tell me master

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what would the step look like

strange whale
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now let's do small steps

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$_{a\cdot b}\tau(x) = (a\cdot b) \cdot x$

thorny flameBOT
#

aPlatypus

strange whale
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are you fine with that equality

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I just used how tau is defined

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multiplying on the left by a.b, that's what _(a.b) tau is

solemn jolt
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ohhhh

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ok now I get it

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you used the definition of the _atau function

random zealot
#

Sos

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🆘

solemn jolt
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but instead of multiplying the argument by just a, you multiplied it by a.b because we are workign with _a.btau instead of _atau

strange whale
#

yes

solemn jolt
#

okok

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now we know that (a.b).x is also in set G

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cuz of group rules

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wait

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nvm

strange whale
#

well now you want to have _a tau ° _b tau somehow

strange whale
solemn jolt
#

can we use the fact that _at is surjective?

strange whale
#

applying 1 group axiom is enough here

solemn jolt
#

the inverse identitiy right? like how we did to show surjectivity of _at?

strange whale
#

no

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it would be a bit boring lol

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you have 2 choices left

solemn jolt
#

fuck

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putting me on the spot out here

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ok ok

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so there were 5 axioms

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one about closure

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u said it's useless already

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and the inverse identity also no go

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so we have associativity and the thing with neutral element

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wait actually there were only 4 axioms nevermind

strange whale
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yeah associativity

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it looks a lot like the expression we have here

solemn jolt
#

oh

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yeah

#

true

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we can show that (a.b).x = a.(b.x)

strange whale
#

yea

solemn jolt
#

so we have shown that _a.bt(x) = _at(b.x)

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and

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from there

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umm

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well we are triying to get to _bt(x) . _at(x)

strange whale
#

well what's b.x ?

strange whale
solemn jolt
#

b.x is an element of G

strange whale
#

sure

solemn jolt
#

💀

strange whale
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about the tau's though

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left multiplication, yada yada...

solemn jolt
#

wait wait

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oh it's a.b.x

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_at(b.x) = a.b.x

strange whale
#

uh sure

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you just undid the step you did

solemn jolt
#

oh

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yeah

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i just did that

strange whale
#

_b tau(x) = what?

solemn jolt
solemn jolt
strange whale
#

multiplying on the left

strange whale
#

I wrote b

solemn jolt
#

oh oh

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yeah b.x

strange whale
#

yea

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we should be done now

solemn jolt
#

I am thinking

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hard

strange whale
#

replace that b.x

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by its tau expression

solemn jolt
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a.b.x right?

strange whale
#

you undid your step again

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I'm talking about that b.x

solemn jolt
#

oh

strange whale
#

stop undoing _a tau

solemn jolt
#

_bt(x)

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=b.x

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and we put this in there

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and we get _at(_bt(x))

strange whale
#

$_{a\cdot b}\tau(x) = _a\tau(_b\tau(x))$

thorny flameBOT
#

aPlatypus

strange whale
#

yeah

solemn jolt
#

YAHH BABBYYY

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fuck yeah

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good shit

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I know it felt like walking a paraplegic accross the street

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but thanks a lot man

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I actually understand it

strange whale
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so much crap to unfold to just use associativity lol

solemn jolt
#

ahahaha

strange whale
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there's still one more question in your exercise

solemn jolt
#

oh shit

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yeah

strange whale
#

$\tau_a(x) = x \cdot a$

thorny flameBOT
#

aPlatypus

strange whale
#

multiplying on the right by a

solemn jolt
#

this is just the same thing except the a is on the right

strange whale
#

yea

solemn jolt
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it must be homomorphic right?

strange whale
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try it out

solemn jolt
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I'm gonna do it

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same way you did it for the left translation

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and see if it works

topaz sinewBOT
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@solemn jolt Has your question been resolved?

strange whale
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@solemn jolt got it?

solemn jolt
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working on it

strange whale
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aight

solemn jolt
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wait

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i think the right translation is not homomorphic

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unless it is an abelean group

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unless the group is also commutative which i don't think it is

strange whale
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yea you're right

solemn jolt
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no it's not homomorphic

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as the question hasn't stated that the G group is an abelean group

strange whale
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yup

solemn jolt
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niceeee

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very nice

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thank you aplatypus

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you a real one

topaz sinewBOT
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@solemn jolt Has your question been resolved?

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gusty patio
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Hello, can someone help me with an exercise in continuous differentiable functions?

gusty patio
ionic oar
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neckbreaker

gusty patio
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hello

ionic oar
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what are you meant to do?

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find a and b for continuity and differentiability at 1?

gusty patio
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Determine the real parameters a and b, so that the function is differentiable on R

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I solved it, but at the end, it tells me that b= -1

ionic oar
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why are your photos always tilted lmao

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makes it hard to view on pc

gusty patio
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oh

ionic oar
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oh wait theres a command

thorny flameBOT
ionic oar
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what you did is correct

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are you sure its not ax + b

gusty patio
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really?

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Nope

ionic oar
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what you did is fine then

gusty patio
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and... how do I rezolve this?..

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the problem is with e^x

topaz sinewBOT
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@gusty patio Has your question been resolved?

ancient dagger
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What is the goal?

gusty patio
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I have to solve the limit

ancient dagger
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Is it to find valid a, b, and c?

gusty patio
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I know how to find out, but the limit stops me, I don't know how to find out

ancient dagger
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Like to find the limit as f goes to infinity?

gusty patio
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the limit

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no

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to zero

ancient dagger
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Ah okay, well you wrote down that c = 1 if the limit exists

gusty patio
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this one

ancient dagger
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Ohhhp

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I see

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What kind of background do you have? Do you know about L’Hopitals Rule?

gusty patio
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nope

ancient dagger
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Well here’s one thing you could do: split the fraction in the limit

gusty patio
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how??

ancient dagger
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$\frac{a+b}{c} = \frac{a}{c} + \frac{b}{c}$

thorny flameBOT
gusty patio
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aaa

ancient dagger
#

Then you can split the limit

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And evaluate each on its own

gusty patio
#

how? 😅

ancient dagger
#

$\lim (a + b) = \lim a + \lim b$

thorny flameBOT
gusty patio
#

and then?

ancient dagger
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oh shucks

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yeah one of those is bad

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Okay wait

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we dont really have to do any of this

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e^x grows much faster than x right?

gusty patio
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I think

ancient dagger
gusty patio
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e is 2,7

drowsy bluff
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What's the question?

ancient dagger
gusty patio
ancient dagger
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Yeah and 1 is a constant

drowsy bluff
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that thing on the top right is a 1?

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or an l

gusty patio
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1

ancient dagger
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Wait I'm dogging this rn

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Hylke you got this

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Sorry Hanee

drowsy bluff
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l'hopital?

gusty patio
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I didn't learn yet

gusty patio
drowsy bluff
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you could write the x over to ln x I think

gusty patio
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the actual answer is 1

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yes, I don't know how, why

drowsy bluff
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I think I have an idea

gusty patio
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hello?

drowsy bluff
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Im looking at my books

gusty patio
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ooo

drowsy bluff
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Really hard without l'hopital XD

gusty patio
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🥹

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let's leave this one then

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I have another one

drowsy bluff
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alright

gusty patio
drowsy bluff
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It's hard to read sorry XD

gusty patio
#

now?

drowsy bluff
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What's the question?

gusty patio
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to find out a and B

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where the function must be differentiable on R

drowsy bluff
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so the function is xe^x and -x^2 + ax + b?

gusty patio
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yep

drowsy bluff
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and we need to find an a and b where it's differentiable on R

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and R is real number line?

gusty patio
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R are the real numbers, i.e. all the numbers

drowsy bluff
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Yea

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Alright

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im trying it out

gusty patio
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me too

drowsy bluff
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is it that both the derivatives have to be the same?

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on 1?

gusty patio
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yep

drowsy bluff
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Have no idea if this is correct

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a = 2e + 2

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and b = -e - 1?

gusty patio
#

a yes

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and b also

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ooo

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amazing

drowsy bluff
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Niceee

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Still trying to do the limit tho

gusty patio
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😂😂

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Can I see the process, how did you solve the exercise?

drowsy bluff
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Alright Lemme write it down nicely

gusty patio
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wait

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I started with this

drowsy bluff
gusty patio
drowsy bluff
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derivative of second function is -2x + a

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Yes then you put them equal to each other at the x-point 1

gusty patio
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how did you find the derivative of xe^x?

drowsy bluff
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product rule

gusty patio
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didn't learn about that as well 🤓

drowsy bluff
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How else are you supposed to do this question??

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Well the darivative of basically taking the limit

gusty patio
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I think that's why it's almost at the end

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Aa

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Thank you very much 🥰

drowsy bluff
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I'll try to work the first limit out for you!

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I believe its possible without l'hopital

gusty patio
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really?

drowsy bluff
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yea I think so

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YES it is

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I figuered it out

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Holdon

gusty patio
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ooo

drowsy bluff
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OMG nvm

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so close tho

gusty patio
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who knows, maybe you will invent a new theorem😂😂

drowsy bluff
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This is possible using squeeze theorem

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I have to go now sorry

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good luck tho

gusty patio
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thank you

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byee

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because its created by var

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this is a math help discord lol

mental remnant
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oh shoot

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A bag contains 7 green balls and 3 yellow balls.
Sani takes three balls out of the bag, without replacement.
(i)​Find the probability that all three balls he chooses are yellow.
(ii)​Find the probability that at least one of the three balls he chooses is green.

hallow garden
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Can someone explain

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@hallow garden Has your question been resolved?

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!status

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What step are you on?
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marble gate
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@hallow garden

hallow garden
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Dunno where to begin

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@marble gate

marble gate
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okay so, what's the probability that he pulls 1 ball and it is yellow

hallow garden
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3/10

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I guess

violet hornet
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Hi

marble gate
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and now what's the chance the 2nd ball will also be yellow

violet hornet
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Can I ask here ?

marble gate
violet hornet
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Where ?

marble gate
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in the channel you have already claimed.

hallow garden
marble gate
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well there's only 9 balls in the bag

hallow garden
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So 7/9

marble gate
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the chance of getting a green ball on the second pull if you get a yellow in the first is 7/9

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but we want a second yellow ball

hallow garden
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Yep

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That’s gonna be 2/9

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Right?

marble gate
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great

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and now we can work out...if we've now pulled 2 yellow balls, what's the chance of getting the 3rd yellow ball on the last pull

hallow garden
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1/8

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Right?

marble gate
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excellent - so now we have our 3 probabilities, we can work out the probability of all 3 of these happening

hallow garden
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How?

marble gate
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remember the chance of A and B happening (if they are independent) is P(A)*P(B)

hallow garden
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Ok 👌

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This is dependent event right?

marble gate
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well....yes, but the way we worked it out was with conditional probabilities 😛

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so we can treat them as independent

hallow garden
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Oh ok 👍

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So we can multiple these probabilities

marble gate
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yep!

hallow garden
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Ohhhhh

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Gotcha I also one more question should I post here

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Or new channel

marble gate
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sure, go for it

hallow garden
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K

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This question I tried very hard but I’m not able to get my head around it

marble gate
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okay this question has a lot of words but at least it gives you the tree diagram

hallow garden
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Ye

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I got six possible out comes

F F
F NF F
F NF NF
NF F F
NF F NF
NF NF

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dunno if correct

marble gate
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which part is this for

hallow garden
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I wanted to understand the question so I combined the possibilities it’s not the answer for any part 😝

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Idk if I’m doing correct

marble gate
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I /think/ there are 2 you're missing

hallow garden
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Which ones

marble gate
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I think the diagram left out the top and bottommost branches of the 3rd calculator for space

hallow garden
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Ye so the diagram is wrong or the question is tricky?

marble gate
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well 2c) considers 1000 calculators

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...no sorry

hallow garden
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The question is values of p and q

marble gate
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I misread the questgion

hallow garden
marble gate
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you are completely correct, there are only 6 cases

hallow garden
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6 cases but how probability 1/20

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I don’t get that

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That states 20 possibilities

marble gate
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well...not necessarily

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not all events are equally likely

hallow garden
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If that’s 1/20 then NF is 19/20?

hallow garden
marble gate
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yeah

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the chance of you winning the lottery is 1 in millions 😛

hallow garden
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lol

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bi says both are faulty

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So 1/20 * 1/20

marble gate
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yep

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which is doing the topmost branch

hallow garden
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But wait NF, F, F

marble gate
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for a and b we are only testing 2 calculators

hallow garden
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This is counted?

hallow garden
marble gate
hallow garden
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Gotcha

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Now exactly 1 faulty

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P(FNF OR FNF OR NF OR NF)

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So add these

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OR add right

marble gate
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we're still only testing 2 calculators

hallow garden
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F F
F NF F
F NF NF
NF F F
NF F NF
NF NF

hallow garden
marble gate
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but yes, it's P(faulty then not faulty) + P(not faulty then faulty)

hallow garden
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damn I counted twice

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Thanks I’m getting it

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I’ll attempt all here, you are fine?

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With that

marble gate
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sure

hallow garden
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K thanks 🙏

hallow garden
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Because there is no FFF

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not possible

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1/20 * 1/20 * 0/20

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That’s 0/20

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Not possible

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Right?

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Oh wait I misunderstood

marble gate
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no? C is asking for one of the first two faulty and then the 3rd one faulty

hallow garden
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Ye I misunderstood

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P(F NF F) + P(NF F F)

marble gate
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ye

hallow garden
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(1/20 * 19/20 * 1/20) + ( 19/20 * 1/20 * 1/20)

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^ breakdown

marble gate
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ye

hallow garden
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D days batch is cancelled if FF or third calculator is faulty too

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Right?

marble gate
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P(FF) + P(NF, F, F) + P(F, NF, F)

hallow garden
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Ohh got it

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For e

1000 * 0.00725

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0.00725 = P(FF) + P(NF, F, F) + P(F, NF, F)

hallow garden
marble gate
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yes

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you got it

hallow garden
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Let’s GOOOO

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Thanks a lot

marble gate
hallow garden
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I really appreciate your help 🙏. Wish you very best in your life

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I’m going to close this channel 👍👍👍

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.close

topaz sinewBOT
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Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

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slow tundra
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I don’t understand the first question

topaz sinewBOT
odd jacinth
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what's written besides the question is the formula you could use to answer