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sturdy oracle
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do you even know what a reciprocal is

woven kettle
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yes

sturdy oracle
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I mean you can legit simplify 20/20

woven kettle
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yes so its -1

sturdy oracle
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Yeah and then the reciprocal of -1 is?

woven kettle
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so would the negative reciprocal be 1?

sturdy oracle
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Yeah

woven kettle
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oh ok

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yeah i thouguht so

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just making sure

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rotund spoke
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um so x=-3 is correct but the second value of x is 13

rotund spoke
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while mines is 15

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idk what i’m doing wrong

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😭😭help pls

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if i do the removing fraction thingy then i get 13 but not 3

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😭😭

toxic grove
rotund spoke
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-40+20

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and then 4 is divided

toxic grove
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so you had x = -20/4

rotund spoke
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u have to take - and +

rotund spoke
toxic grove
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can you divide that once more for me

rotund spoke
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uhm

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πŸ’€what am i supoosed to do tjen

toxic grove
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it's -5

rotund spoke
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supposed

rotund spoke
toxic grove
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im just saying both your answers are wrong. let's look at the previous steps then

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something must've gone awry there

rotund spoke
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no but how am i supposed to take - and +

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it’s a weird emulation

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equation

frozen goblet
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Youre probably confused about the absolute value so why not substitute y for it

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Then solve for y and then x

toxic grove
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$\frac{3}{2} |x-5| - 8 = 12 - |x-5| \implies \frac{5}{2} |x-5| =20$

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nebula40

toxic grove
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if you substitute y = |x-5| like he said this is easier to see

rotund spoke
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how did they even do that

rotund spoke
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but that will only give me one value

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i need two values of x

toxic grove
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no it won't.

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basically you get to the point where you have

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y = something

rotund spoke
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at what step do i take - and +

toxic grove
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then you say |x-5| = something

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and take +-

rotund spoke
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ok

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lilac furnace
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Can someone help me to simplify that please

frozen goblet
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Factor out m+1

lilac furnace
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How do I do it here

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After i take it out

frozen goblet
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$this equals (m+1)*(4m/2)$

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lilac furnace
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Alright thx

lilac furnace
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I think im dumb

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I mean for each terms

sweet shard
lilac furnace
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πŸ₯²

sweet shard
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How

lilac furnace
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Is that what I’m supposed to get

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I think not

frozen goblet
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How did you get an equal sign when it was about simplifying

lilac furnace
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I just wanted to know if this was equal

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Idk how to manage all these tbh

frozen goblet
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No it shpuld be 4

lilac furnace
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It’s too much

sweet shard
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lilac furnace
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2

sweet shard
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soft lily
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is there a faster way to do this problem than calculating the individual probabilities of each of the 12 outcomes and then deriving the mean from them?

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because...

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that's a lot of calculating

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Please, I can't figure this out

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the hypergeometric distribution didn't simplify anything

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Please someone?

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anyone?

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help please

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solemn jay
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The leading term of the polynomial function p is a_nx^n, where a_n is a real number and n is a positive integer. The factors of p include (x-3), (x-i) ,(x-(2+i)). What is the least possible value of n?

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opal vault
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nice sync

iron harness
solemn jay
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probably 1

iron harness
solemn jay
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what is a candidate function dude

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we havent been taught that yet

iron harness
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Not a specific term, I just invite you to try something that will probably make you see the solution.

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What function could you imagine to have the 3 factors?

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If we could then further see that it is the smallest one and the leading coefficient is psotivie, we would be done! πŸ™‚

solemn jay
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this is what I got for that

iron harness
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ah

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btw you don't need to multiply out

opal vault
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oh my you didn't need to expand

solemn jay
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oh

iron harness
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Anyway

solemn jay
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p(x) = (x - 3)(x - i)(x - (2 - i))

iron harness
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is the leading coefficient positive?

solemn jay
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yeah

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its +1

iron harness
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great

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So it would work for us, right?

solemn jay
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yeah?

iron harness
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So what would be the n here?

solemn jay
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a positive integer?

iron harness
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Here you were asked about an n.

iron harness
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solemn jay
iron harness
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😦

iron harness
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solemn jay
iron harness
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yeah

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if that's a_n*x^n

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what is a_n and n?

solemn jay
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a_n is a real numbver

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n is a positive integar

iron harness
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it#s not just any real number though

solemn jay
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3?

iron harness
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it is OUR leading coefficient

solemn jay
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cause the degree is 3?

iron harness
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a_n*x^n = x^3

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For this to work, n=3 yes (and a_n = 1)

solemn jay
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n = 3?

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yeah ok

iron harness
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They wrote it a bit confusingly I admit, but n is just the degree.

solemn jay
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ok ty but how to go ahead?

iron harness
solemn jay
iron harness
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The degree is just 3 because 3 linear factors.

solemn jay
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is that why I was getting confused?

iron harness
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I think we are done except one small bit.

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They wanted the smallest n.

solemn jay
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3 is the smallest?

iron harness
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Do you think we can find a polynomial with less degree?

solemn jay
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no

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cause degree of function is 3

iron harness
solemn jay
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huh

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how

iron harness
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You chould have suggested p(x) = (x-1)(x-3)(x-i)(x - 2 + i) first.

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Then we would have concluded n=4.

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it surely also has a positive leading coefficient and the 3 factors!

solemn jay
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yeh

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no wait

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doesnt it have 4 factors

iron harness
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yeah

solemn jay
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so 3 is correct :)

iron harness
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well we don't know yet whether maybe there is one with 2

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Okay I will help out.

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There isn't.

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I think one short way to argue is because your function needs to have 3 zeros

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at 3, i and 2-i

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3 zeros means at leastr degree 3.

solemn jay
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just to tell me its not possible

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😭

solemn jay
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what

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!nosolves

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?

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iron harness
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πŸ™‚

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I forgot our command thingies.

solemn jay
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oh mb :)

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tysm

iron harness
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you are welcome.

solemn jay
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When this comes in exam, I will remember cause of u man

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tysm

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its been a while :)

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Im back for more πŸ‘ ,

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solemn jay
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A) Q(-5) = 0: This statement cannot be determined from the given information. The fact that Q(5) = 0 does not guarantee that Q(-5) = 0.

B) Q has two complex roots: This statement cannot be determined from the given information. We only know that Q(5) = 0, but this does not provide information about the nature of the roots of the polynomial.

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I know its NOT A or B

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its C or D

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excuse me anyone?

opal vault
solemn jay
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wow that message lagged

solemn jay
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I was thinking about writing this as my explanation

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'but am not sure

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Q(x) can be expressed as P(x)/(x-5) where P(x) is a degree of 4: This statement cannot be determined from the given information. While we know that (x - 5) is a factor of Q(x), it does not necessarily mean that Q(x) can be expressed in the form P(x)/(x-5), where P(x) is a degree 4 polynomial.

north canyon
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Do all degree 4 polynomials have 5 as a root?

solemn jay
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no the info aint given

north canyon
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Or wait it is can nvm

opal vault
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So first of

north canyon
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Yea didn't see it says can be expressed

opal vault
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Can you do the division of Q(x) by (x-5)?

solemn jay
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Q(x)/ (x-5)

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no?

opal vault
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Like polynomial division

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Q(x) = ...

solemn jay
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oh yeah I know division

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but how is that related

opal vault
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Do we agree that we can write Q(x) = (x-5)P(x) + R(x)?

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What do P(x) and R(x) verify?

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that's euclidian division btw

solemn jay
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:)

solemn jay
opal vault
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ok

solemn jay
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Im sorry but we werent taught that :(

opal vault
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Do you at least know the polynomial division theorem?

solemn jay
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yes

opal vault
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Can you cite me the theorem?

solemn jay
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If the polynomial P(x) is divided by x – c, then the remainder is the value P(c)

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here u go ig

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??

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nvm I got it

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neon iron
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Given a 7 digit number, where the first digit is from 2-9 inclusive, and the two digits immediately after cannot be 1 consecutively, find the number of possibilities

neon iron
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So one of the right ways to do this is total possibilities - possibilities of digits 2 and 3 being 1

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I tried doing it like 8 * 10 * 9 * (10 * 10 * 10 * 10) where 10 * 9 was the possible combinations for the second and third digits, but this is wrong and I'm not sure why

elfin sparrow
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not 10 and then 9

neon iron
elfin sparrow
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oh, either one of them can be 1, but they can't both be 1?

neon iron
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yeah

elfin sparrow
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well then you still don't have 10 choices and then 9. That's sort of assuming that the first can be 1 but the second can't

neon iron
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I thought it wouldn't matter since 9 * 10 would be the first not 1 and the second being 1

elfin sparrow
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well, you'd want to count those possibilities separately, but it's kinda tricky since the two cases overlap a lot

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they overlap wherever neither digit is 1

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I think maybe it's eaiser to think of these two digits together, as a single event

neon iron
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ic

elfin sparrow
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do you know what I mean? like just consider those two digits for a moment. How many possibilities are there if you're just choosing two digits?

neon iron
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yeah it makes sense by doing it through complement

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I guess I was wondering how it would be done if it wasn't through complement

elfin sparrow
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You could do 10*9 to count the possibilities like you did originally

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but you also have to consider 9*10 separately, since this is the case that allows the third digit to be 1, rather than the second

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so 10*9 + 9*10

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and then subtract all the cases we double counted, which are the cases where neither digit is 1

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which is 9*9

neon iron
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I was thinking about that, but I thought it would be much larger than the total possibilites should be

elfin sparrow
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if you subtract the overlapping 9*9, the result should be the same

neon iron
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ah

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that clarifies it

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thank you, I forgot about subtracting the double counting

elfin sparrow
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sure thing πŸ‘

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combinatorics is tricky, it's super easy to lose track of what you have/haven't counted or what you've counted more than once

neon iron
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yeah v.v

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never been able to understand it well

elfin sparrow
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that's why I like to try to think of other ways to structure it

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like those two digits being anything from 00-99, except for 11

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is much easier to see that way that there are 99 possibilities

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in my opinion anyway

neon iron
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yeah I'll definitely try that first in the future

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have a good one mate

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you too πŸ‘

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I know this is easy, but I need help lol

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atomic blade
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The def of a laplace transform is this. But the graph shows the wavefrom from a to b. So do I change the bound of 0<t<infinity to a<t<b?

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$f(t) = \begin{cases} c & t \in [a,b] \ 0 & t \notin [a,b] \end{cases}$

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Herels

neon venture
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since f(t) only has a value between a and b

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you know what that means

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ok lol makes sense

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??

final mural
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do you nkow the definition of a function being even or odd?

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i want to know how to move further with the problem onto solving it

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what did you try so far?

hot belfry
opal vault
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so, the function will be even or odd depending on your expression of f(-x)

hot belfry
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yes i know

opal vault
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so start by computing f(-x)

hot belfry
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substituting x as -x?

opal vault
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i got it as f(-x)=a^-x-a^x-sinx

opal vault
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yes

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and is this possibly f(x)? -f(x)?

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i got till only this

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f(-x)=a^-x-a^x-sinx

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after substituting

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@opal vault

opal vault
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f(-x) = -(...)

hot belfry
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oh shi-

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thank you i got the answer

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it is odd right?

opal vault
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yes it is

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when do you apply continuity correction for normal distribution?

rapid mantle
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I'm really confused since everything seems to contradict

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sweet shard
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Normal distributions are already continuous

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rapid mantle
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when you approximate binomial to normal

sweet shard
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...

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What exactly are you talking about then

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What statements are contradictory to you?

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I need to know in this how you get the 25sec^2+25

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I have no clue how you get the 25 in this problem

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They have done it wrongly in the picture. Part on the right side. Maybe, that's what is tripping you up.

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It should be:
$$=25\tan^2{t} + 25$$
$$=25(\tan^2{t} + 1)$$
$$ = 25\sec^2{t}$$

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Enemagneto

noble basin
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okay but how do you get the 25

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Thats the only thing I just am not sure on the algabra of where the 25 came from

distant nymph
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It's right there in the question itself.

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You had $49x^2 + 25$.

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Enemagneto

distant nymph
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See the $+25$ there?

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Enemagneto

distant nymph
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You substituted, $x = \frac{5}{7}\tan{t}$

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Enemagneto

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ahh

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Okay thank

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you

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Just a simple over looking

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it’s a infinity discontinuity or point

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Hi, how do I simplify this expression?

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timber current
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combine the fractions inside the big square root

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then split the square root on the top and bottom

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so you can remove the sqrt2 on the bottom

lyric gazelle
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when i insert it into wolframalpha it gave me the answer 5, so im kinda confused πŸ˜…

timber current
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multiply by sqrt2/sqrt2

lyric gazelle
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ok wait

timber current
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or

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wait

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i didnt realize you meant it like that

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you dont need to multiply

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just add the left and right

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idk, how you got five though

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it should be irrational

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is that a plus or minus

lyric gazelle
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plus

timber current
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ok

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it should be imaginary

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then

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no way its five

lyric gazelle
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yeah XD

timber current
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do you know imaginary numbers

lyric gazelle
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idk why my teacher gave me that and told me to simplify πŸ˜‚

lyric gazelle
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like in calculus prob

timber current
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bruh

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make sure you got the problem right

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because the one you gave is simple precalc

lyric gazelle
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i can give you the full problem

lyric gazelle
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you tend to use imaginary numbers more in calc right

timber current
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yeah

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its first introduced in precalc

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and then calc 3 i think

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or end of calc2

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i forgot

lyric gazelle
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ok ill deem it as no real answer for now, thanks

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or just write out the imaginary

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What limit rule is this

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Limits are what a function will approach towards at a certain x value. For a continuous function like 3x-7, it'll just be what the function is evaluated at that value

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That should be a logical connection

muted crow
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what

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im talking about this

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πŸ€”

craggy haven
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i think you need $\lim_{x\to a} x = a$ first

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hayley!

craggy haven
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then you can use these happy

muted crow
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what

craggy haven
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wdym what

muted crow
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do I really have to have limx=a

craggy haven
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like

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if you want to use those limit laws to find the limit you asked about

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if you just want to use the fact that for a continuous function, you can just substitute the value in, then you can just do that instead

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need help with 51

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This is what i’ve got so far I don’t know where to go from here

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or if I messed up somewhere

waxen yarrow
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no thats correct

stark rivet
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This is a review sheet I need to do for hw

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Is that the simplest form?

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yeah

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Hey could somebody help me with 2) a)? I believe the function is d(p) = sqrt( (p^2) + (3^2))

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I believe this finds the distance between the tree and the bird but I’m not sure if I’m right

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what is the first step supposed to be

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I saw this video before coming here but the question is so different from them

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help waht next plzzzp

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I did it right so far?

drifting swift
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your handwriting has room for improvement. it's hard to see what you tried to do...

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did you multiply both sides by (x^2 - 1)?

graceful leaf
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no

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is that waht i shouldve

drifting swift
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... then what did you do if not that

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it looked like that's what you did.

graceful leaf
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oh

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i mean ya i multiply them so the common denominator ix x^2-1

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xd

drifting swift
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...

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right

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so you did multiply both sides by (x^2 - 1).

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then $\frac{x^2-1}{x+1}$ should have simplified to $x-1$, not to $x+1$ as you wrote.

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you would have had: $$x - 1 + 2x + 2 = 3x^2 - 3$$

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graceful leaf
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Oh

restive willow
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Dude i sent you a video for this type of problem you're still stuck?!?!

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Its been 2 hours

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Oh my

graceful leaf
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?

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at least im trying

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eventually i will get it

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idc how long

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so something like that?

drifting swift
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,rcw

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drifting swift
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why did the right-hand side become 3(x^2 - x) all of a sudden

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it wasn't supposed to be that

graceful leaf
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oh jeez

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x^2-1

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let me fix dat

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Ok

drifting swift
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,rccw

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drifting swift
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3(x^2 - 1) is not 3x^2 - 1.

graceful leaf
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OMg

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Ok this is my sign i need sleep

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hopefully this is good

restive willow
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Finish the rest

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It isn't completed

graceful leaf
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yes

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just that idk how

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like something tell me to subtract the 1

toxic grove
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I could swear i've seen the exact same question recently

craggy haven
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pull everything to one side and then factor

graceful leaf
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so make all = 0?

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uh

toxic grove
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do you know how to solve quadratics?

graceful leaf
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i mean if it was more straightforward

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not this scenario

toxic grove
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so suppose it was something like 3x^2 + x + 1 =0, you know how to solve it right?

graceful leaf
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quadratic formjula?

toxic grove
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yes

graceful leaf
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Ok

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yea ik that one

toxic grove
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so let's make this equation look like a "normal" scenario

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let's subtract 1 from both sides of the equation

graceful leaf
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Ok

toxic grove
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what do we have now?

graceful leaf
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3x=3x^2-4

toxic grove
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then we subtract 3x from both sides

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does this look like something you can solve now?

graceful leaf
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so when i subtract the 3x

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It will be 3x^2-3x-4?

toxic grove
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3x^2-3x-4 = 0

graceful leaf
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Ohh

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Ok

toxic grove
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imo it's not good practice to forget a side of the equation, even if it happens to be zero

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but anyways you can go ahead with using the quadratic formula now

graceful leaf
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Ok

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yes i will keep practice

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I have question

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can i do complete square for this one or not allow

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eh tht will make it harder nvm

toxic grove
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it's probably faster to use the formula

graceful leaf
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ook

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after hour trying to understand

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is this one good

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oh god i just saw

toxic grove
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you've made a mistake in the b^2 - 4ac part

graceful leaf
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yes

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ok

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-39 replace for 57

toxic grove
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you should be able to simplify it a bit then

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upper prawn
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Hello, i have this question. is there a quick way to find the answer without having to solve for the roots for each equation?

drifting swift
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do you know in general how to reconstruct an equation from its roots

upper prawn
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No

drifting swift
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... do you know anything about factorization, maybe?

upper prawn
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Yeah sort of im not very good at it though

drifting swift
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well let's forget this complex numbers stuff for a moment and i'll give you a simpler problem that you could solve.

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give me a quadratic equation with roots x=2 and x=3.

upper prawn
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ok one sec

drifting swift
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in factored form.

upper prawn
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I don’t really know

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Like that?

craggy haven
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yes but i think you typo'd

upper prawn
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oh yeah its not a 4

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its a 2

craggy haven
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yh

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yeah so that works the same way with complex numbers too

drifting swift
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^

craggy haven
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if you wanted a quadratic with roots at $\blue{1 + 2i}$ and $\purple{-3 + i}$ then it would just be $$(x - \blue{(1 + 2i)})(x - \purple{(-3 + i)}) = 0$$

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hayley!

upper prawn
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ok

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and then i can expand that

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and get the answer?

craggy haven
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yeah

upper prawn
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How do i expand the (x-(-3+i))?

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is that just subtraction

craggy haven
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yeah just distribute the - sign

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when you're multiplying these you kind of have to pretend that i is a variable

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and then deal with i^2 = -1 later

upper prawn
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so it become (x+3 and then how do i do (x-+i)

drifting swift
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no

upper prawn
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is that just x-i

drifting swift
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(z - (-3+i))(z - (-3-i)) is what you should've had

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which simplifies into (z + 3 - i)(z + 3 + i)

upper prawn
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oh ok i get that now. the i always messes with me

drifting swift
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the i is just a letter

upper prawn
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alright so after expanding i got z^2 +6z +10

drifting swift
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sounds about right.

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alright thanks very much for your help

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lucid junco
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Verify $\frac{1-\sec\theta}{1+\sec\theta}=\frac{\cos\theta-1}{\cos\theta+1}$

How should I start this?

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water beam

drifting swift
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could start from the left-hand side and write sec(ΞΈ) as 1/cos(ΞΈ)

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then simplify that nested fraction

lucid junco
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wait how do I simplify this lol

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$\frac{\left(1-\frac{1}{\cos\theta}\right)}{1+\frac{1}{\cos\theta}}=\frac{\left(1-\frac{1}{\cos\theta}\right)}{1}\cdot\frac{\cos\theta}{1}??$

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water beam

lucid junco
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oh wait no

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i got this

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trust

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$\frac{\left(1-\frac{1}{\cos\theta}\right)}{1+\frac{1}{\cos\theta}}=\frac{\left(1-\frac{1}{\cos\theta}\right)}{\frac{\left(\cos\theta+1\right)}{\cos\theta}}=\left(1-\frac{1}{\cos\theta}\right)\cdot\frac{\cos\theta}{\cos\theta+1}$

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water beam

lucid junco
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how legal is this on a scale of 1-10

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$\frac{\left(\cos\theta-1\right)}{\cos\theta}\cdot\frac{\cos\theta}{\left(\cos\theta+1\right)}$

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water beam

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$\frac{\left(\cos\theta-1\right)}{\cos\theta}\cdot\frac{\cos\theta}{\left(\cos\theta+1\right)}=\frac{\cos\theta\left(\cos\theta-1\right)}{\cos\theta\left(\cos+1\right)}$

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water beam

lucid junco
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i hope its legal

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that was a lot of labour

drifting swift
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also 1-10 scales suck anyway, the correct scale is 0-10.

lucid junco
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so am i wrong

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;-;

drifting swift
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anyway this is legal but too roundabout for my taste.

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no you are not wrong, you're just detouring.

lucid junco
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ok cool

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nice nice nice

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I assume i should expand now

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$\frac{\left(\cos^{2}\theta-\cos\theta\right)}{\cos^{2}\theta+\cos\theta}$

thorny flameBOT
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water beam

lucid junco
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and i need (cosx - 1)/(cosx+1)

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hmmmmm

drifting swift
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oh my god

lucid junco
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oh

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wait

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no i got this

drifting swift
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hold on a minute

lucid junco
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what

drifting swift
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i need to make a comparison

lucid junco
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dont tell me my algebra is wrong

drifting swift
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Blindly applying cross multiplication \ (as well as ignoring factorization): \
\begin{align*} \frac{x}{123456789} &= \frac{987654321}{123456789}\
123456789x &= 121932631112635269 \
x &= \frac{121932631112635269}{123456789} \ &= 987654321 \end{align*}

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drifting swift
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credit to @restive inlet

lucid junco
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what the hell is that

drifting swift
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this is an exaggerated example of how to make your life difficult

lucid junco
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$\frac{\left(\cos^{2}\theta-\cos\theta\right)}{\cos^{2}\theta+\cos\theta}=\frac{\cos\theta\left(1-\cos\theta\right)}{\cos\theta\left(1+\cos\theta\right)}$

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wooooohoooooooooooooooo

thorny flameBOT
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water beam

lucid junco
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i did it

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i win

drifting swift
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ok yeah sure you did.

lucid junco
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cancel cos

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yess

drifting swift
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you didn't need to expand in the first place tho.

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so like you took a detour.

lucid junco
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can you show me the other way

craggy haven
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just multiply the first fraction by cos/cos lol

drifting swift
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^

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$\frac{1 - \frac{1}{c}}{1 + \frac{1}{c}} =\frac{(1 - \frac{1}{c}) \cdot c}{(1 + \frac{1}{c}) \cdot c} = \frac{c - 1}{c + 1}$

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drifting swift
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abbreviating cos(ΞΈ) as c for my own convenience.

craggy haven
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yay i love shortcuts

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lucid junco
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how would i know to do that tho thonk

drifting swift
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nested fractions

lucid junco
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what is a nested fraction

drifting swift
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fraction within a fraction

lucid junco
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why not like

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sine or something

drifting swift
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??

lucid junco
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why not multiply top and bottom by sine

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how do we know to do it with cos

craggy haven
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bc we've got cosines all over the place

drifting swift
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^

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also like

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generally

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for a nested fraction, a good move is to multiply the outer top and bottom by the LCM of the inner denominators

lucid junco
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thats a lot to remember

drifting swift
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it isn't if you practice simplifying nested fractions a bunch.

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if you're ok waiting like an hour or so, i can cook up a worksheet for you to practice on.

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but if you don't want that, tell me as such. so that i don't waste effort making it.

lucid junco
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thats thoughtful of you but i probably wont be able to work on it right now because my exam is tomorrow and im just catching up on everything rn

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"In a bank card code there are four digits. You have forgotten your code, but you know that one of the digits is 3, and no digit can be the same. What's the maximum amount of necessary attempts you need to crack the code?"

atomic ermine
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I think it is 9 times 8 times 7 for the remaining digits, and then multiply that by 4! (24) for the correct order

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but book says it is 2016, or 9 times 8 times 7 times 4

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why?

rough plover
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instead of multiplying by 24 think about deciding the place of the 3 first, then choosing the other digits

atomic ermine
rough plover
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you would only need to multiply for order if you had done something like 9c3 to choose the digits, but here youve already assigned digits to these spaces

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If that makes sense

atomic ermine
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ok i get it

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10 times 9 times 8 times 7 is the number for possible codes, and when we know one, it becomes 9 times 8 times 7

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hello i have a question abt this question im working on

stuck forum
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so the result I got is

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$3042.37

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but

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my question is

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would it be the increase of debt or total amount

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I think its total amount

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but I could be wrong

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its probably the increase

stuck forum
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Ok

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Does that formula remind you of anything?

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The one the problem asks you to calculate

rain stratus
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is it the formula for derivatives?

stuck forum
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Let's do even more basic than that

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Like algebra class

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Does that formula remind you of anything

rain stratus
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nah

stuck forum
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Okay

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Imagine plotting A(t)

rain stratus
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ohh

stuck forum
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In the y-axis you got A(t)

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in the x-axis you got t in years

rain stratus
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is it the formula for calculating the slope

stuck forum
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Yes!

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Exactly

rain stratus
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i see i see

stuck forum
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So "rise" is the change in the debt value

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and the "run" is the number of years it took for that change to happen

rain stratus
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yea

stuck forum
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So that means you have 3042.37 increase in debt from year 9 to year 10

rain stratus
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so I guessed it right

stuck forum
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Yes

rain stratus
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but now I see why its that

stuck forum
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I was just trying to explain

rain stratus
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I understand now

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thank youu

stuck forum
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Wait a sec

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What was your guess

rain stratus
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my first one was

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total amount but

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i felt it was wrong

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then

stuck forum
rain stratus
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I guessed increase

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because it made more sense

stuck forum
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in this case it's the average increase in debt

rain stratus
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how could the total amount be less than what it was at first

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after certain years passed

stuck forum
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Yes. That's an excellent way of double checking your answer

rain stratus
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yepp

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I have another one I'm workin on

stuck forum
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Sure, let me know if you need help

rain stratus
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How would I evaluate the limit on this type of graph

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I'm a bit lost

stuck forum
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What's the "layman" definition of a limit?

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Not the epsilon-delta one

rain stratus
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doesn't the limit mean when x approaches the point on the graph?

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or just x approaching whatever value you put there

stuck forum
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Right. But is there a condition on "how" it must approach it? What I want to know is when does a limit exist

rain stratus
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tbh i dont even remember

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I havent done math in years

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ah

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is it when they approach at the same values from both sides?

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yesir

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i was looking at it

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So does that happen here?

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its like

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upside down

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on one side

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so no?

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No. For the limit to exist, the left- and right-hand limits at a point must be equal

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clearly they approach different values here

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one is negative, the other is positive

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Btw i'm not saying no to your answer, I'm agreeing that the answer is no

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ahh

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thats true

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one is positive and the other negative

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so if thats ever the case does that always mean the limit doesnt exist?

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At x = 0, yes

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I see

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everywhere else it does

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wym?

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lim as x->1 exists

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or 1.5

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or 2

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or -2

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just not 0

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OHh

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ok

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me understands

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ok how about

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this question

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maybe its too small to see

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gimme a sec

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sure

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how the heck would i do this

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Alright, let's start by graphing -4x^2

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alright

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how we doing that

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Oh I thought you were doing it by hand

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I aint that advanced yet

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No it's fine. I'm sure you can do it

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No

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?

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idk where to even start

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Yes you can. Let's take it slow

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choose a value of x

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youtube hasnt taught me yet

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of x?

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yes

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2?

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ok fine

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what's 2^2

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4

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alright y=-4(4)

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what is that

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-16

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?

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That's right

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i mean y = -16

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so you have a point (2,-16)

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bit too far isn't it

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let's use smaller values of x

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ok

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what's the easiest one you can think of

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1?

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Ok sure

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what is y if x is 1

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-4

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great!

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so you have two poitns now

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let's add more

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how about x = 0

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i'td be 0

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so we have (2,-16), (1,-4), (0,0)

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let's keep going

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x = -1

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-4 still?

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Yep. And you'll see the same patter with -2

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So now you have 5 points

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can you make a plot now?

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hmmm can I ?

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Yes, you can

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it's not gonna bite πŸ˜…

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If you want more points to work with, I suggest looking at x = 1/2 and -1/2

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ayo hold up

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im allergic to fractions

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must I grab the epipen

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Haha I'm sure you'll manage.

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I cant draw so im gonna try using a website to plot this graph

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my graphing calculator is dead too

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sigh

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Well, do you know what a parabola looks like?

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yea

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also

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this website is too complex for my smol brain

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wait what website are we talking about

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no idea

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random one

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do you just want to see what it looks like or are you planning on printing it?

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i just wanted to see

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I'd use desmos for this sort of thing

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wolframalpha works too

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never used desmos sadcat

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i graphed the question

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Cool

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no you want to plot the tangent at x = -2

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got this for y = -4x^2

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great

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So now we want to find the tangent at x = -2

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how does one do that

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Do you know derivatives?

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yea

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kinda

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Okay. What do you know about derivatives

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Like what do they represent

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hm

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is it

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the rate of instantaneous change

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Right! In other words, it gives you the slope of the tangent line at that point

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So the problem has two parts

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we want to find the slope of the tangent line

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the slope?

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and we want to know what the equation for it is

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we want that to make a plot

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the options i see are just other graphs

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lol at the last one

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i think its the last one

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lol

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but idk

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But seriously though we need to calculate the slope

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ok

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so what's the derivative of y = -4x^2

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isnt the slope y1 - x1 / x - y ?

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It is

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But for the tanget line it's special

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ok

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because, by definition, a tangent line only touches the graph at one point

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so you can't have a "rise" or "run"

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That's where the notion of a limit comes in

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ahh

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You say that second point approaches the first one

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So that they're on top of each other

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That's the derivative

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is the derivative for -4x^2

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-8x

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Yes tha'ts right

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so now we're interested in the slope at x = -2

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so what's that then

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the slope?

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yes

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hint: the derivative is the slope of the tangent line

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I'm not sure

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what to do

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Okay, that's fine

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So you have a function

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and you want to know the slope of the tangent line at a certain point of the graph

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Do u use y2 -y1/x2-x1?

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You can't do that for a tangent line it only touches the graph at one point

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Ok what about

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Nah nvm

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I’m just confused

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keep going sorry

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Your suggestion about using the slope formula isn't wrong

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However, it will only give you a secant line

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For it to be a tangent line, you want to take the limit as one point approaches the other

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Kinda like that

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What

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The red one is the tangent