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obtuse jackal
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Base completion theorem ? I.e. that any free family can be completed into a base by adding some other elements to it ?

solemn epoch
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So I could use this basis completion theorem?

obtuse jackal
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But honestly that's interesting theory to know (to really get a good graso of linalg) but here it's much faster to just directly prove it's spanning

solemn epoch
obtuse jackal
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No, just that, by definition, span(your 3 vectors) contains S

solemn epoch
obtuse jackal
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That's another good thing to know

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Span(A) = Span(Span(A)) contains Span(some vectors of Span(A))

obtuse jackal
solemn epoch
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Cause I was thinking that the second set of vectors can be shown to be a linear combination of the first set of vectors just by distributing arbritary coefficients and showing that the second set of vectors is a linear combination of the first set (defintion of span).

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I was just struggling to really show that the first set spans the the second one

obtuse jackal
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Cause your explanation has me a little confused as to how to interpret it

solemn epoch
obtuse jackal
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Why would showing that be a proof ?
||You've got it in reverse||

solemn epoch
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Which I assume covers the reverse part?

obtuse jackal
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But all you want is to express u, v and w in terms of these 3 vectors. That shows it's a spanning family.

solemn epoch
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Alright lemme see if I can do that

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Please don't occupy multiple help channels.

novel magnet
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im kinda stuck after this

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upbeat ridge
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Can anyone help me with these two questions?

upbeat ridge
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For question number 1, I'm not sure which form to use

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Should I be using recursive or explicit and why?

sweet mica
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Explicit better because you directly substitute 20

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If recursive you have to calculate a20 with a19 with a18 with a17...

upbeat ridge
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How do I know the common ratio?

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I don't know the value of the 1st term

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@upbeat ridge Has your question been resolved?

upbeat ridge
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first term * ratio^4 = 45
first term * ratio^7 = 360
first term * ratio^20 = Final answer

hardy crescent
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first term * ratio^7 = 360
first term * ratio^4 * ratio^3 = 360
45 * ratio^3 = 360

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magic

upbeat ridge
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What can I do with that

hardy crescent
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find ratio

upbeat ridge
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How?

hardy crescent
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ratio^3 = 360/45
ratio^3 = 8
ratio = 2

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find first term by putting this value in either given equations and find first term the 20th term

upbeat ridge
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Ah okay, thanks

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wraith swift
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mind explaining the wordings?

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wraith swift
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anyone

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?

nova creek
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,rotate

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nova creek
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What exactly are you confused about?

wraith swift
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the wordings

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I can't make out what the second method with graph is trying to convey

nova creek
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We have the graph y = |x| and y = 5

wraith swift
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where did the y=5 come from? isn't module function just y=|x|?

nova creek
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The solution to |x| = 5 is where the two graphs intersect

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y = 5 comes from how we're solving |x| = 5

wraith swift
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can you elaborate?

nova creek
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The solution to f(x) = g(x) is the x value(s) where f(x) and g(x) intersect. Just let f(x) = |x| and g(x) = 5

wraith swift
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where f(x) and g(x) intersect

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is this a method or rule or something?

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I never seen it before 🤨

wraith swift
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it should come out (5,5)then tho

nova creek
# wraith swift is this a method or rule or something?

Well, we're setting the y values of the functions equal; that's what f(x) = g(x) means. We are also trying to find the points where the x values are equal; those x values are the solutions to f(x) = g(x). If the x value and the y value are equal, then they're the same point

nova creek
wraith swift
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umm

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im not so sure I know you are trying to convey.

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you can try to use computer functions to elaborate if u wish i am a programmer

nova creek
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If two functions intersect, then they share a point. Thus, the y value and the x value of that point is the same

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Let's try the other way around. How would you find the points where y1 = f(x) and y2 = g(x) intersect?

wraith swift
nova creek
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Well, if the functions intersect, then at that point, they have the same y value, right?

wraith swift
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on desmos maybe?

nova creek
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Gimme a sec

wraith swift
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kk thnx

nova creek
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You see how the red and blue lines intersect at x=1?

wraith swift
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yea

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iam following you

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then

nova creek
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Do you see how, at the point where they intersect, the point on both graphs are the same? If they weren't the same they wouldn't be intersecting

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In other words, if the blue line is f and the red line is g, then f(1) = g(1), because they intersect at 1

wraith swift
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nova creek
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? Neither my graph nor your graph intersects at (-1, 5) or (1, 5)

wraith swift
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sorry

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not this one

nova creek
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Mine intersects at (1, 1), while yours intersects at (-5, 5) and (5, 5)

wraith swift
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yea

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i got that

nova creek
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Point is, if they intersect, they share the same point, yeah?

wraith swift
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yea

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they intersect

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they share the same image you mean??

nova creek
nova creek
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And if y1 = f(x) and y2 = g(x), then f(x) = g(x)?

wraith swift
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yea

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true

nova creek
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Thus, if we want to find the points where f and g intersects, we have to solve f(x) = g(x)

wraith swift
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they produce the same result no matter what yes

wraith swift
nova creek
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We can go the other way around too. If we want to solve f(x) = g(x), then we can just find the points where f and g intersect

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In our case, if we want to solve |x| = 5, we can just find the points where y = |x| and y = 5 intersect

wraith swift
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yea I get that

nova creek
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And the intersection points are x = -5 and x = 5

wraith swift
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but why are we doing all this?

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the concluding statement says there are solutions but isn't a function only supposed to have one image?

nova creek
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Wdym?

wraith swift
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why are we proving f(x) = g(x)?

nova creek
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Because the question wanted us to solve |x| = 5

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The graphical interpretation of this statement is the intersection of |x| and 5

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You were confused about the graph, no?

wraith swift
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nah i was confused about why are we doing what we are doing

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and where does it all connect

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a little bit about the graph too yea, but mostly that

nova creek
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The problem told us to solve |x| = 5. We are solving that because it told us to. There are two ways to do it: algebraically or graphically

wraith swift
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wait a second again

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|x|=5 means??

nova creek
wraith swift
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i mistook it for (x)=5 🤦🏻‍♂️

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(i know what |a| does, mod function right)

nova creek
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Mod function?

wraith swift
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modulus?

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f(x)= |x| y=positive value of x right

nova creek
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I see. There's another function called the modulo which gives the remainder after dividing. I got confused

wraith swift
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yea

nova creek
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The similar names make me think there might be a connection between the two, but that's irrelevant for this problem

wraith swift
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yea

nova creek
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Is there any more confusion?

wraith swift
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yea i still wonder what is that

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why we do it i mean

nova creek
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Why we do what?

wraith swift
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I'm confused on why do we do what we do for given question
I am not so sure about the question itself

nova creek
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What do you mean "why we do what we do?" What are we doing that you are confused about?

wraith swift
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explain the question

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that shall solve it

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what does it ask us to do?

nova creek
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Solve |x| = 5

wraith swift
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is it asking us to prove |x|=5

nova creek
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It's hard to prove that, because |x| and 5 are two different functions

wraith swift
nova creek
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It wants to know what x values give us 5. The solution are -5 and 5. Why? Because |5| = 5 and |-5| = 5. Why isn't, say, 4 a solution? Because |4| = 4 ≠ 5

wraith swift
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AH

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FINALLY

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I GET IT

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It wants to know what x values give us 5

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you could have told me earlier

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😂

nova creek
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Yes. It might be more general to say what x values make both sides equal, because you may have an x value on both sides

wraith swift
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pseudo verge
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hi

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pseudo verge
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can someone check my answers?

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i have two answers for this one. i'm unsure about it

sacred wren
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for every monomial, if it has an x, differentiate with a dx at the end, if it has a y, differentiate with a dy, then solve for dy/dx

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I am looking for the lower and upper quartile for this data. Since 4 is the median, should I exclude it and only use the yellow part for Q1 and red for Q3?

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so Q1 is the median of the first five, and Q3 the median of the last five

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pastel vessel
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Hey how do I use the "bsplinecurve" command in WolframAlpha? Whenever I try to use it WA doesn't interpret it.

final halo
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Have you looked at the documentation?

pastel vessel
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Yes, it didn't really help.

final halo
pastel vessel
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How do I make multiple inputs as shown in the example?

final halo
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First line of code in the example

pastel vessel
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What about it?

final halo
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What are you asking?

pastel vessel
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I am asking, how do I make an input myself using bsplinecurve with my own control points?

final halo
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And what exactly in that example is not helping you to do that? pts is a list of control points

pastel vessel
final halo
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That is a matrix, not a list of points

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Do it the same way the example does

pastel vessel
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I literally copied it from the example

final halo
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It looks like you're using wolfram alpha, which is not wolfram

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I think its a mathematica function

pastel vessel
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Oh, so I suppose there isn't one for WA.

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Thanks for the help anyway.

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Hi ! I was wondering why $y'+2y = x^2$ and $y'-2xy =0$ were considered first order linear differential equations, but $xy' -3y = x^2$ isn't ?

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obtuse jackal
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are you sure about that ?

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It is a linear equation since it involves linear combinations of ${y^{(i)}}_{i=0}^\infty$ over a ring of derivable functions

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solid horizon
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How would you reflect something over a curved line (if you can)?

ionic jasper
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yo can anyone help me with a trig question

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oh nvm

solid horizon
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what formulae?

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Prove that the solution set of a system of linear equations does not change if you perform an elementary
row operation of type III (Ri → Ri + λR)

signal granite
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How would i go about this?

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a tip i got: show that s is a solution of a system of linear equations S1 if and only if s is also a solution of the system S2. S2 being S1 after the row operation Ri → Ri + λR

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but i have no idea how id do that

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livid knoll
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how to find tangent line

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so i can find the rate of change

buoyant shadow
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it's like, on top of that line

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it's already straight

livid knoll
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o

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how to find its slope

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from that sketch

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it might be inaccurate

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the

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sketch

buoyant shadow
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you don;t get anything else

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have to trust the sketch

livid knoll
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oki

buoyant shadow
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draw a line with a ruler to the x=2 line

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ty

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Does anyone know a formula for this question? I could really use some help! Thank you!

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slow basin
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The formula I think is used in this problem is h/a + h/b = 1
But I don’t know how to plug the number into the equation.

fierce ore
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I think you can solve it like this

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Suppose both have a time function for the amount of work done

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f(t) = t/60
g(t) = t/240

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f(t) +g(t) = 5t/240

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So you would need 240/5 minutes for the work to be done

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So 48 minutes

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I don't know if it's right but at least it somewhat makes sense

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tulip axle
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Idk, this seems like an exam

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We are not allowed to help

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Nor would we want to help

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In this case

spark vine
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This is not an exam

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this is a practice paper

tulip axle
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Well, the chart is self explanatory

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If 120 watched james bond, how many watched spiderman?

spark vine
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I just cant figure out the 2 boxes

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got it right

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nvm

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vagrant sand
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What is the probability the outcome of rolling two 6-sided die is an odd number?

vagrant sand
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would this be 3/4?

tulip axle
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1 1
1 2
2 1
1 3
3 1
1 4
4 1
1 5
5 1
1 6
6 1
2 2
2 3
3 2
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Think you can see the pattern

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Just get the odd ones, divide by the total

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What the probability of rolling a single 6-sided dice and getting an odd number?

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Could someone please explain how to find “the function rule k(x)”

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One question I had was where they got the 1 from in the solution

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hey everyone! this is for my calc 2 class and I got the answer of 0.7275. I dont feel this is right and the question is also asking for volume. Does that matter? Thanks!

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vocal portal
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but in a certain manner

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vocal portal
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how would it be different from left endpoint method?

trim silo
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Like this?

vocal portal
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seems good

trim silo
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ok thanks so i guess the final answer would be 0.7275 mm^2

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$$\left(\frac{\sqrt{2}+1}{\sqrt{2\ -1}}\right)^2+\left(\frac{\sqrt{2}-1}{\sqrt{2+1}}\right)^2+2\cdot \frac{\sqrt{2}+1}{\sqrt{2\ -1}}\cdot \frac{\sqrt{2}-1}{\sqrt{2+1}}$$

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why is it

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just

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how would i set this up?

leaden canyon
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find the number of possible committees with no art students

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and also commitees with no additional constraints

turbid osprey
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18 with noner

leaden canyon
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a committee has 4 students

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oh

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no art would be 4

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with extra 2 ppl

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so 5?

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haev you learned combinations/permutations

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i kinda started

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but he said to do this

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ive got some summer school course for math because i barely failed it

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and this question

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oooh this question

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shit man

turbid osprey
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then lets start with finding the total number of committees possible

turbid osprey
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6

leaden canyon
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without consideration of whos an art student/drama/band

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how did you get that

turbid osprey
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a comm has a max of 4

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but like there 3 extra

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missing 1

leaden canyon
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3 extra?

turbid osprey
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yea

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wdym

turbid osprey
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8+10+5=23

leaden canyon
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yes

turbid osprey
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/4

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is 5.75

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but i just made the .74 into another group

leaden canyon
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thats the number of committees that you can split them into

turbid osprey
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because the other 3 has no where to go

leaden canyon
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we are trying to find all possible committees

turbid osprey
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wdym but all?

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imagine you want to create a group of 4 people

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and you want to select the people from a pool of 23 people

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how many different groups of 4 can you make?

turbid osprey
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6

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5

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5

leaden canyon
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hmm... idk how to explain this well

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iirc isn't there just a formula for this

leaden canyon
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its combinations

true ingot
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yeah

turbid osprey
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so nCr?

true ingot
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yeah

leaden canyon
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but trying to teach the reasoning behind it

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but how would i set it up?

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i dont know what n and r are

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or like represeting

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well n is just the total number of students

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cause that's all of the elements in the set

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or am I tripping

leaden canyon
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yes

true ingot
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then r is how many you "pick"

leaden canyon
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you need to first find the total number of possible committees

turbid osprey
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so n would be all and r will be the grouop?

leaden canyon
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then find the total number of possible committees excluding any art students

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and subtract them for the answer

turbid osprey
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so it would be 23N5?

leaden canyon
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23c4

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C

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why 4?

leaden canyon
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the committee is 4

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idk where you got 5 from

turbid osprey
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the possible groups

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It's been a while since I've done this, but isn't the easiest way to solve this just finding how many combinations of the 3 other spots aside from the art student spot

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so 18C3

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then multiply it by 5 for each of the 5 art students?

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I mgiht be wrong

turbid osprey
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umm idk

turbid osprey
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ok what does 23c4 give you

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8855

leaden canyon
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i mean what does that number represents

turbid osprey
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ummm the amount of ppl that can fit in a group

leaden canyon
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no that would be 4

turbid osprey
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outcomes

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of the 23?

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can you clarify a bit more?

turbid osprey
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like could be like 1 from each class into a group or like 2 and 2 or 3 and 1

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like if u had the word cat

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uncan write it 6 ways

turbid osprey
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yeah its the total number of possible committees

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i have to go. the answer is 23c4-18c4. 18 because you remove the art students from the selection pool

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oh

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ok thanks

true ingot
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oh wait it's at least 1 art student I'm smooth brained

turbid osprey
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lol

true ingot
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but yeah that's correct since 23c4 is the total number of groups

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then 18c4 is the total number of groups without an art student

turbid osprey
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so no 5?

true ingot
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no

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where di the 5 come from

turbid osprey
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groups

true ingot
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?

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you're making 1 group of 4

turbid osprey
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like the possible groups

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of 23

true ingot
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they're asking how many possible groups of 4 can you make for that one group

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yeah

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you need to pick 4 people from those 23 people

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to make your group

turbid osprey
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yea and the possible groups that can be made is 5

true ingot
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why

turbid osprey
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23/4 5

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with 3 extra

true ingot
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what

turbid osprey
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nvm im lost

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I thin kyou need to reread your question

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they're not asking how many ways you can make 5 groups of 4

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they're asking you how many ways you can make 1 group of 4 out of 23 people

turbid osprey
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yea LOL lost

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but thanks

true ingot
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ok well the answer is just 8855 - 3060

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if you need it

turbid osprey
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yea and its 5795

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so n would be the total?

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and r will be the amount it is divding?

true ingot
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what

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n is the ttoal number of ppl

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and r is the committee size

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"These sets are disjointed" Does that mean all of them have to be disjointed?
If i understand its Pairwise disjoint, because B⊂A, but A∩C ∪ B∩C = Ø

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they are not pairwise disjoint because like you said B is a subset of A

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it probably means pairwise

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I've got two questions(T/F)
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Since there are 3 sets its confusing.

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well like I said the first question is ambiguous and I don't wanna answer it. the answer to the second question is false because B is a subset of A

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could someone briefly explain how an exponential function works? preferably in a manner which could be understood by an individual who is not very mathematically inclined

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You should prob write 3 theta as 2 theta + theta

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Ok

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Sin 2 theta cos theta + theta

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Now what?

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Once you recognise its sin compound angle you can work from there

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Hmm..ok

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I have the equation 10x + 6 = 5x +6

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flint nest
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my answer is the solution set is ø

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the computer says i'm wrong

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why am i wrong?

plucky elk
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x=0

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subtract 5x+6 from both sides

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2x = x

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how did you get 5x = x

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What is a congruence test

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and where is A

upbeat swan
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its what you use to prove that triangles are conguent

stray storm
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yup

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how would you do that

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like

upbeat swan
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look what elements they have in common

stray storm
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same angles

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symmetrical

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what does it mean "which congruence test"

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how would you apply

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SSS,SAS

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and where is A

upbeat swan
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if triangles have all sides conguent, then the test is side side side

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or sss

stray storm
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oh

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a means angle then

upbeat swan
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if they have 2 sides and 1 angle

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its sas

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side angle side

stray storm
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so

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it would be SSS?

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What does RHS mean doe

upbeat swan
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idk

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look it up

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ok

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SSS is correct right?

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Its not???

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.reopen

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stray storm
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but they have the same side lengths

upbeat swan
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how do you know

stray storm
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ye

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good point

upbeat swan
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im only seeing equal angles

stray storm
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im just looking at it

upbeat swan
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look at the angles

stray storm
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you can prove line SQ is same for bothe right

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S

upbeat swan
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yeah

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you dont need to prove

stray storm
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ok

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thats one S

upbeat swan
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yes

stray storm
upbeat swan
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then you dont have more sides

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you only have angles

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so

stray storm
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so

upbeat swan
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whats the test

stray storm
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AAS

upbeat swan
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yeah

stray storm
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yes but

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why cant you prove SP

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u technically can right

upbeat swan
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sp what

stray storm
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line sp

upbeat swan
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what with line sp

stray storm
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isnt that a S too

upbeat swan
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you dont know its congruent with anything

stray storm
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wdym

upbeat swan
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i mean

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the question doesnt tell you sp is congruent with anything

stray storm
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i dont understand but ok

upbeat swan
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.

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how do you not understand

stray storm
stray storm
upbeat swan
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here

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rps = qtx

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right?

stray storm
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yup

upbeat swan
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ok

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and you are saying ps = xt

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out of nowhere

stray storm
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oh

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oh

upbeat swan
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see?

stray storm
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ok

upbeat swan
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you dont know that

stray storm
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thanks

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but wait

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its not sealed right

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so with the same angles it has to be the same length

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since they both have to go to one point

upbeat swan
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no it doesnt

stray storm
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ok

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ill just

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stop asking

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.reopen

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upbeat swan
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see now?

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they dont have to be the same lenght

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np

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,rotate

flat frigateBOT
stray storm
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Help pls

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Is there any way to do it apart from trial and error

potent roost
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maybe write it as a function of x

stray storm
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like?

potent roost
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y = (120-3x)/4

stray storm
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oh

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ya

potent roost
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now plug in x's from 1

stray storm
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??????

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pls slowdown

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oh

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like

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1

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2

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3

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4

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5

potent roost
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yes

tawdry needle
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You see 30 and 0 is an option
The way you can get the next option is to reduce 4y by multiples of 4 and then checking if you can get an x value that works
For the x value to work you need the 120-4y to be divisible by 3

stray storm
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?????

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im so confused

tawdry needle
stray storm
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please explain

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why

tawdry needle
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Answer is 15 ?

stray storm
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dude i dont want the answer

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i wanna learn

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how did you get that

tawdry needle
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Ye but if you know the answer tell me if this is correct

potent roost
stray storm
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Ok

flat frigateBOT
potent roost
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lets factor a 3

tawdry needle
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So i can explain without the chance of my explanation being wrong

stray storm
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why does it equal that

potent roost
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$y = \frac{3}{4}(40-x)$

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lean otter
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💀

stray storm
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pls slow down

potent roost
stray storm
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yup

potent roost
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so 3/4(40-x) = (120-3x)/4

stray storm
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yes but

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lemme just type the original question

potent roost
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no need for that

stray storm
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3x+4y=120

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so

potent roost
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yes

stray storm
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its

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wait

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how did you get to 3(40-x)

potent roost
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3x+4y=120
we subtract 3x
4y= 120 - 3x
we factor a 3
4y = 3(40-x)
we divide by 4
y= 3/4(40-x)

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Okay?

stray storm
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whats factoring

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oh

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wait nvm

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yup

potent roost
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now we know x is a positive integer

stray storm
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shouldn't 40-x/4 too

potent roost
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no

stray storm
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y

potent roost
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3/4(40-x)/4 would mean 16 in the denominator

stray storm
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nono

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like

potent roost
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I can do this if you want
(3(40-x))/4

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but its the same thing

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let me just use latex

stray storm
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i dont see how its the same thing

potent roost
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$\frac{3(40-x)}{4}$

stray storm
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y=(3(40-x))/4

flat frigateBOT
stray storm
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yup

potent roost
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now x is a positive integer

stray storm
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yup

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y=that

potent roost
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can you see that after x goes above 40 we'll get negative values for y

stray storm
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yup

potent roost
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so we only need to look at numbers from 1 to 40

stray storm
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yup

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so we trial and error that?

potent roost
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we can get some more intuition, though

stray storm
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how

potent roost
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we have to make sure 3(40-x) is divisible by 4

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in order for y to be an integer

stray storm
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why

lean otter
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Integers are full numbers

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No decimals

stray storm
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yup

lean otter
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No reminders

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So it cant br something like

stray storm
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yup

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yup

lean otter
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7/4

stray storm
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yup

lean otter
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yup

potent roost
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3(40-x) now this needs to be a multiple of 4 so (40-x) needs to be a multiple of 4

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since 3 isn't a multiple of 4

lean otter
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You're now just finding values of x for which 40 - x is a multiple of 4

stray storm
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i dont get it

lean otter
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Which part

stray storm
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everything

potent roost
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bruh

lean otter
potent roost
lean otter
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I bruhed irl

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Okay so you have

stray storm
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i get the algebra part

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but

potent roost
stray storm
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ya

potent roost
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and the fact that x can only be from 1 to 40

stray storm
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yup

potent roost
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alright

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so we need to ensure that 3(40-x) is divisible by 4

stray storm
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y

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oh wait

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ya

potent roost
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is 5 divisible by 4?

stray storm
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no

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so it has to equal

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a multiple of 4?

potent roost
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yes 3(40-x) has to be a multiple of 4

stray storm
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so

potent roost
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can 3*(a number not a multiple of 4)
ever be a multiple of 4?

stray storm
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4,8,16,20,24,28,32,36,40

potent roost
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how

stray storm
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3*8

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wait

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wait

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no

potent roost
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8 is a multiple of 4

stray storm
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12

lean otter
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8 is a multiple of 4

stray storm
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no

potent roost
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yes so it cant

lean otter
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You literally listed it

stray storm
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so no

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since

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3*12 is invalid too

potent roost
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yes

stray storm
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so no

potent roost
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so we have deduced that if 3(40-x) a multiple of 4 then (40-x) has to be a multiple of 4

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okay?

stray storm
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yup

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wait

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that means x must be a multiple of 4 right

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so its 36,32,28,24,20,16,12,8, or 4

potent roost
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yes you are correct

stray storm
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yahoo

potent roost
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thats it

stray storm
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do i just plug all of those?

potent roost
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for x yes

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and you get ys

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but

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you dont need to find those ys

lean otter
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Dont even need to plug them

potent roost
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cuz the question asks for how many

lean otter
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Just count how many valid x

stray storm
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oh

lean otter
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Yee

stray storm
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so

potent roost
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just count these 36,32,28,24,20,16,12,8,4

stray storm
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i just count how much then div by 2

lean otter
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Why divide

potent roost
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no dont divide

stray storm
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cuz it says pairs

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how many pairs

lean otter
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Pairs of x and y

potent roost
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each x gives a y

stray storm
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oh

lean otter
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Every x has a y

potent roost
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that makes it a pair

stray storm
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so the answer is a 9

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,w positive integeral solutions 3x+4y=120

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bye

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i need to do this and im confused

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i know its done similar to this

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but im confused-

quasi bison
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do you know how to do multiplication like this in base ten?

lean otter
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yes yes

quasi bison
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right well it works exactly the same in hex

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addition and multiplication of digits just works somewhat differently

lean otter
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where im stuck at is if the number is higher than 16 i have to convert it to hexa am i correct?

quasi bison
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you are working in hexadecimal...

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if you want to do the digit-by-digit multiplication in base ten to make it easier for yourself then by all means do so

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but you will have to convert back into hexadecimal regardless of the value

lean otter
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(o.o;)

quasi bison
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ok yeah sure

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that works

lean otter
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the thing is

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idk how that is working

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like culd u help me get the idea in my mind?

quasi bison
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when you say "idk how that is working", do you mean "i don't understand how 143_10 becomes 8F_16, 140_10 becomes 8C_16 etc." or do you mean "i don't understand why we have to do these conversions in the first place"?

lean otter
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the first one

quasi bison
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so what you're saying is, you have forgotten how to convert between decimal and hex.

lean otter
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yes-

quasi bison
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in the general case it involves a bunch of long division

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there are also shortcuts for base sixteen specifically (namely, convert to binary first then convert bin to hex which is easy)

lean otter
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is it

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answer devided by 16

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and the reminder x16?

quasi bison
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it's remainder, not "reminder". a reminder is something you put on your phone to make sure you don't forget the doctor's appointment.

and in this particular case, when the number you're converting has at most two digits in hexadecimal,
yes, the first digit is the quotient by 16 (i.e. the number divided by 16 and rounded down) and the second is the remainder.

lean otter
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okay thankyou wonderful person

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did i go wrong anywhere?

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the brakets are after converting to hexa

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anyone here?

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hello-

quasi bison
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isn't it B.8 rather than 8.B

lean otter
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OH

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my bddd

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um this is kind of hard...

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whats 2+2c in hexa? 4c?

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this?

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hello anyone here q-q?

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i need help or a step by step guide on how to do this please

safe radishBOT
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@lean otter Has your question been resolved?

lean otter
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it has not been resolved T-T

worthy hemlock
lean otter
worthy hemlock
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You have to do a few extra steps, by converting from base 16 to base 10, to do the multiplication

lean otter
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im following this

worthy hemlock
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What does (2) = 32 mean?

lean otter
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it means when we convert 32 to hexadecimal its 2

worthy hemlock
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No, it's not

lean otter
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wait..

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wait wait wait

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is it 20???

worthy hemlock
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Yes

lean otter
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OH

lean otter
worthy hemlock
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As mentioned, multiplication in base 16 is the same concept and process and multiplication in base 10, except you convert base 16 to base 10 first to make it easier

worthy hemlock
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Nope

lean otter
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how come pekaboo78_cry

worthy hemlock
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When you do regular base 10 multiplication, can you have 32 in the ones place?

worthy hemlock
lean otter
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i am aware its wrong-

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how is it wrong-?

lean otter
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i am confused-?

worthy hemlock
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When you do regular base 10 multiplication, for instance, 24 * 8, you do 4 * 8 first, making that 32, can you place value of 32 in the ones place?

lean otter
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i am still confused-?

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im unfimiliar with maths so idk what ones place is

worthy hemlock
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Have you never seen this before?

lean otter
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so the first digit

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wait

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am i suppose to keep the thing in ones place and carry

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and add it to the other place while multiplying

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?

worthy hemlock
lean otter
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AH

worthy hemlock
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It seems like you need a review on multiplication

lean otter
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i am really forgetful trust me-

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so for the first thing

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its a 0 yes?

worthy hemlock
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0 in what base?

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Like are you using 32 in base 10 or 20 in base 16? You just saying 0 means nothing because there's not enough context

lean otter
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ah sorry

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since its 20

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and 2 got carried over

worthy hemlock
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That is the first step, continue and finish the problem

lean otter
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am i doing smth wrong again?

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it should be A+c+2

worthy hemlock
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Where is A coming from?

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I don't even understand your process

lean otter
worthy hemlock
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As asked before, do you know how to do regular multiplication?

lean otter
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AH

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sorry i forgot again

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its another 0

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cuz the 1 in 10 gets carried over

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am i correct?

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q-q im really sorry im bad at thiss

lean otter
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can we change the question to

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this?

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🤯 i dont like mathsss

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@lean otter Has your question been resolved?

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tawdry jackal
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Need help:
my thought process:
ive tried differentiating x = cos (xy)
=> 1 = -sin(xy) * d(xy)/dx
solving this led me to dy/dx = (-y-1)/x

tawdry jackal
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i hope the question is clear enough to be read. my bad if it isnt

final halo
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Show more of your work, your first line is correct

tawdry jackal
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one sec

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1 = -sin(xy) * [y+x dy/dx]

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1 = (-sin(xy) * (y) - x dy/dx * sin(xy)

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x dy/dx * sin(xy) = -sin(xy) (y) - 1

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dy/dx = [-sin(xy) (y) -1] / (x * sin(xy)

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now what do i do

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"solving this led me to dy/dx = (-y-1)/x" i found the mistake here, but i still cant get the 'prove that' answer

final halo
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So something useful here will be that $\sin^2(\theta)+\cos^2(\theta) =1$

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tawdry jackal
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um.. im dumb. i cant seem to find where

final halo
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You've got sin(xy) floating around

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If we could write that in terms of cos(xy) that'd be great because cos(xy)=x

tawdry jackal
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hm

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Oh

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so like sin(xy) = root(1-(cos(xy)^2)

final halo
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Yes

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It seems like we're also going to be off by a negative and I can't see why right now

tawdry jackal
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im slightly bad at english. off by a negative? you mean were a bit off the final answer expected only due to a negative sign

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am i right?

final halo
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Yeah, right now our answer is going to be the negative of the one given i think

tawdry jackal
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wait. why is cos(xy) = x

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i dont think ive come accross that one before

final halo
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Look at the question

tawdry jackal
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OH

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so right now, my final step is :
[-(root(1-x^2) - 1] / (x (root(1-x^2)))

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so i think im off by a "Y' and minus

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so maybe, can the question be a bit wrong?

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i assume the book is old (about 7 to 8 years atleast). of which the image is taken from

final halo
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You dropped the y

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It should be there

tawdry jackal
final halo
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I think the question is incorrect yes, I just did the question myself

tawdry jackal
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ah yes

tawdry jackal
tawdry jackal
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im worried a lot of questins might be wrong in similar pattern,

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cus this was the first question:

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and i had banged my head for the first equation

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thank you again

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.close

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final halo
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Riemann check me

tawdry jackal
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should i reopen?

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.reopen

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