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pastel verge
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What part?

lean otter
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all of it

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make 0 sense

pastel verge
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Any reason for that?

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Anyway Try the first one by poisson approximation

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lyric thunder
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if something is inversely proportional, is it the same thing as indirect variation?

lyric thunder
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like

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does

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inversely proportional = indirect variation

pulsar condor
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no

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$y=\frac{k}{x}$ vs $y=mx+b,b\neq 0$

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lyric thunder
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?

pulsar condor
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1st is inverse proportionality, 2nd is indirect variation.

lyric thunder
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what are the formulas for them?

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lean otter
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Could someone please explain to me how i can solve this question?

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flint ledge
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don’t immediately ping helpers

ancient escarp
safe radishBOT
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@lean otter Has your question been resolved?

lean otter
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i don't know much about trig though

mint flax
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sohcahtoa

lean otter
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i know that

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but not much beyond that

ancient escarp
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i assume you know pythagorean's theorem

mint flax
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what have you drawn

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show us

lean otter
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yeah

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and cosine rule

ancient escarp
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that's all you need

lean otter
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what is cos squared

ancient escarp
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well what ratio can you get for cosine using your picture

lean otter
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i honestly don't really know

ancient escarp
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what does your picture look like

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as gmod said

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show us

flint ledge
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$\cos^2(\theta) = (\cos(\theta))^2$

flat frigateBOT
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quantum

mint flax
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^

lean otter
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is has no picture btw

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just that

ancient escarp
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you're supposed to draw the picture

lean otter
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how does theta equal to 1

ancient escarp
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it doesn't

mint flax
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it doesn't

lean otter
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i have drawn it myself

ancient escarp
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then what does it look like

mint flax
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take a pic of it

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and send it here

lean otter
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kk

mint flax
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resending for reference

lean otter
ancient escarp
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label the sides

flint ledge
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you don’t need to find any values of theta

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just so you know

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bruh

mint flax
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you mislabeled

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C is the right angle

flint ledge
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theta is an angle that isn’t the right angle

ancient escarp
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that too

mint flax
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C=90°

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angle A is theta while C is 90°

lean otter
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so how am i suppose to answer the question with this knowledge

mint flax
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draw the pic again and send it

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@lean otter

lean otter
mint flax
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alright so

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what would sin(theta) be?

lean otter
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theta = a/c

flint ledge
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no

mint flax
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sin(theta)=a/c

lean otter
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that's what i meant

mint flax
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not just theta

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okay

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what about cos(theta)

lean otter
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there wouldn't be cos theta

mint flax
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there can be

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what's the adjacent side

lean otter
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actually

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cos(theta) = b/c

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would that be right

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lean otter
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.reopen

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mint flax
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yes its correct

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so now

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do you know what $\sin^2 \theta$ and $\cos^2\theta$ mean?

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lean otter
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i don't know what that would be though

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would you add the fraction

mint flax
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$\sin^2\theta$ means $(\sin\theta)^2$

flat frigateBOT
mint flax
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and same thing for cos

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so remember sin(theta)=a/c

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so what would sin²(theta) be?

lean otter
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(a/c) squared

mint flax
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yes

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remember that cos(theta)=b/c

lean otter
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would you add them

mint flax
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so what would cos²(theta) be?

lean otter
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algebraically

mint flax
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yeah

lean otter
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(b/c) squared

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ba/c

mint flax
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so it would be $(\frac{a}{c})^2+(\frac{b}{c})^2$

lean otter
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b + a over c

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mint flax
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sorry for the bad parentheses but this is what it would look like

lean otter
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a^2 + b^2 over c^2

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would that be right

flint ledge
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yeah

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$\frac{a^2+b^2}{c^2}$

flat frigateBOT
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quantum

lean otter
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how does it equal to 1

flint ledge
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using the pythagorean theorem

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a^2+b^2 = c^2

lean otter
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how does C^2 equal to 1 though

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shit know

flint ledge
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it doesn’t

lean otter
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i know

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thanks

mint flax
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:)

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.close

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fuck

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I guess I cant

flint ledge
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not helper moment

mint flax
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lol

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shush

flint ledge
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@lean otter do .close

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436116003068178632599586304885865102436987283273192588087066946205825385420102245537617641171508064231363006853389201952225629937253532766998346708022315458543404066186915809029438078922052852453720811267502691138577239348756804955313693393091406303393978608038048294775593159201377364139187142305434603252709617151318958922901417601677040658907901408937709530384849660728157676437361951488873238454079633326062998564370475129597220298716911739158299214865235291416480348618758676919027696256066573122899301892912081375412160180698274455765997411725112824776559729034126511125728785207316456433746195093026529168420804699808556231371820824328024241019054519605469721555033733292097536/6197148516394364188900141323882322297210558701995146720297131484855101557855486731958221825570944947984004858553140186641155182016082966859736962550177180088600405321238825249746403835469727033342501800712896634341355449588496565230819852486507103432027694702173423912538079766299114717526424477880616639449302766419689877623466381205865605118390274355471509815278332251971759244543740352243076811277717664865760571719052087465244804777251295251995674217073974490490639368917793497383548456310727391232146480195472325811180553427557484142696840113044630459874629946903509481288793101524546602637214862483656004358674999005683914545225086663429140282193350054143291262884451455852063961426683890652699785527976797456599012104868536777488904438653913152719206119693088299602007397720839957389279772575408178106779022036761970796031083638898838300999211395119392678116082151174675257415694403682741632963982317824529718557167903433530955641359259898743752340961013280091956109688607349893209675381881203380524958393734988046719982595235111430847956368856989676534079417326438466595922976484817758530826916589148548056446877738990 possible combinations, and only 3133507531 work, what are the odds i guess a working combination

ancient escarp
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can you not

brisk quest
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what?

brisk quest
ancient escarp
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yeah you're continually shitposting

flint ledge
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too bad mods didn’t respond to me first time

long copper
inland ivy
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When the mods dont say b& 😔

ancient escarp
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sad

flint ledge
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rip

brisk quest
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its actual odds for a combination thing im guessing

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im making a password guesser and want to know odds

inland ivy
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That requires one channel

long copper
brisk quest
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i am genuinely stupid

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but yes the password guesser works

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i just want to know odds

inland ivy
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Just divide the two numbers

long copper
brisk quest
ancient escarp
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the sun is gonna explode before your "password guesser" is correct

inland ivy
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7.1850322138032947359625162212840189423241965162208148080546135972588521880931026266906874754026349729001904465802613146821853121E-675

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In case you were wondering

flint ledge
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what did you even use to get that answer

inland ivy
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Lemme put it in decimal form

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Kaiso high precision calculator

ancient escarp
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oh that'll be fun

inland ivy
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0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000071850322138032947359625162212840189423241965162208148080546135972588521880931026266906874754026349729001904465802613146821853121

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About

ancient escarp
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which is about 71850000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times the amount of atoms in the observable universe

flint ledge
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lol

ancient escarp
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have fun guessing that password 👍

inland ivy
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Theres still a chance to get it first try

ancient escarp
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indeed there is

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there's also a chance to get it before the heat death of the universe

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flint ledge
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darn i didn’t get to ping mods again

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sadness

brisk quest
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<@&268886789983436800>

flint ledge
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you just pinged mods for no reason

brisk quest
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😱

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fleet folio
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hello so I'm going through my homework and i found that i did one question wrong in the solution and I'm not quite understanding what they are doing can someone pls explain

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royal kiln
fleet folio
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this is it

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i just need you to explain the steps

royal kiln
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second line under indirect should be

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24C5 - (12C1)(12C4) - (12C0)(12C5)

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the calculation is fine

fleet folio
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but how did you get that?

royal kiln
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is that the teacher's working ^^^ ?

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nvrmnd

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the logic is that you start by counting what all the possible hands are: 24C5

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and remove the (comparably fewer) hands you don't care about

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that's all the ways to pick hands with 1 black card and
all the ways to pick hands with 0 black cards

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so in the 24 card deck described at the top of your teacher's explanation, half are black and half are red

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that means 12 are black and 12 are red

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so here we go, counting the hnads containing 1 black card:

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we can choose 1 black card from any of the 12 black cards: 12C1

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and we can choose 4 cards from any of the 12 red cards: 12C4

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so that's (12C1)(12C4)

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.

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now we count the hands with 0 black cards.

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that's choosing 0 black black cards from the group of 12 black cards: 12C0 = 1 (one way to do this; arguably a redundant calculation)

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and we choose all 5 cards from the 12 red cards: 12C5

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so that's (12C0)(12C5)

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the complete calculation

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24C5 - (12C1)(12C4)-(12C0)(12C5)

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looks like

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(24*23*22*21*20) - (12)*(12*11*10*9) - (1)(12*11*10*9*8)
fleet folio
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ok

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ty

royal kiln
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np

fleet folio
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pure radish
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quick question: can an obtuse triangle ever have 2 solutions?

steel stag
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for side-side-angle sure

pure radish
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cause there are only 2 rules for finding solutions for obtuse triangles

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a<=b or a>b

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which is why I was confused, since there isnt a rule abt comparing height

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lean otter
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$g(x)=2-\frac{1}{5x+2}$

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flat frigateBOT
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DoomKing

lean otter
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$f(x)=\frac{1}{x}$

flat frigateBOT
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DoomKing

lean otter
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would the translations from fx to gx be

  1. left 2
  2. horiz shrink of 1/5
  3. reflect x axis
  4. up 2
inner tapir
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almost!

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that 5 needs to come out first before you can do the horizontal shift

lean otter
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that would be vertical no?

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$\frac{a}{x-h}+k$

flat frigateBOT
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DoomKing

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citrusmunch

$a f(x-h) + k = a \frac{1}{x - h} + k$
inner tapir
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oh sure yeah you can put the a up there

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sorry didn't mean to compile onto yours haha

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well anyway the +2 isn't really h here

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do you see how a = 1/5 and h = -2/5?

lean otter
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uhm

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x is replaced by x+2

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then you replaced the x in x+2 with 5x

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if you did it your way

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you get 5x first

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then replace x with x+2

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5(x+2)

inner tapir
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also i see now what you mean by vertical, it doesn't really matter in this case (as long as you keep it straight), but you do need to factor either way

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i'll do it another way maybe

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citrusmunch

$f(b(x-h)) + k = \frac{1}{b(x - h)} + k$
inner tapir
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here b = 5, but still h = -2/5

lean otter
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you shift left 2 first

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then you are multiply x exclusively with 5

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$f(bx-h)) + k = \frac{1}{(bx - h)} + k$

flat frigateBOT
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DoomKing

inner tapir
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do you see how g(x) is only shifting left 1? that's because h there is really 1 after you factor 2x + 2 = 2(x + 1)

lean otter
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where are you getting 2x+2

inner tapir
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sorry i just threw numbers in

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you can change the coefficient there to 5

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and you'll see f still stays shifted left 2, while g only shifts left 2/5

lean otter
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yeah

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cause VA:2x+5=0

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x can't equal 2/5 cause it would give back 1/0 which is undefined

inner tapir
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sure!

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that's correct, but do you see that you need to factor to stay consistent with h in our equations above means the horizontal shift?

lean otter
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yeah by the def of a horiz translation is to replace x with x-h

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horiz scale is to replace x with (1/a)x

inner tapir
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correct!

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but there's a sort of order-of-operations with transformations of functions

lean otter
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there is a rule of thumb

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that rule of thumb isn't consistent

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equations like these are the exceptions

inner tapir
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so

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take any function you want and graph f(bx - h)

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your h will almost never be the horizontal shift

lean otter
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cause imagine you have f(x)=x

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you move that left to create g(x)=x+2

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then take gx and horiz scale by 1/5

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you get 5x+2

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but reverse that order

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f(x)=x

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horiz scale makes the g(x)=5x

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and now you are moving g(x) left 2

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so 5(x+2)

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or 5x+10

inner tapir
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(just for the record the horiz scale here is 5 not 1/5)
but yes i agree? and i think that's what i'm saying?

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maybe i'm not being clear haha

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WAIT

lean otter
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horiz scale is the reciprocal of a

inner tapir
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no i disagree lmao

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wait wait wait

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in your first example the scale needs to apply to the whole function

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sorry i missed that

lean otter
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that would be vertical

inner tapir
lean otter
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this isn't linear

inner tapir
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yes you're correct

lean otter
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it's a hyperbola

inner tapir
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well the example you were using was

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also correction above

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for myself

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let's start over haha

lean otter
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horiz scale is always reciprocal

inner tapir
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yes i read vertical i'm real sorry

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let's start from the top

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just these two steps you have written in this order:

  1. left 2
  2. horiz shrink of 1/5
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i say f(x) => f(x+2) => f(5(x+2))

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which would mean your denom must be 5x + 10, which you don't have

lean otter
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but you are only replacing terms with x with 5x

inner tapir
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you are replacing the argument of your function

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which after you've been doing some transformations, is no longer simply x

lean otter
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horiz scale is f(ax) where a is the reciprocal of what you are scaling it by

inner tapir
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agreed

lean otter
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so logically if you have (x+2)

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u make that 5x+2

inner tapir
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so that desmos link demonstrates that your shift is no longer left 2 if you say that

lean otter
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it doesn't matter what my shifts say

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my shifts change the graph in the order given

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the result should give gx, doesn't matter if left 2 isn't physically there

inner tapir
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lemme write this differently, it's really important that you are transforming the args of the function, not just x (which is usually the arg of functions we deal with)

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f(u)           take (u -> u + 2)
f(v)  = f(u+2) take (v -> 5v)
f(5v) = f(5(u+2))
lean otter
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you take f(5v) and replace it with the terms that contain the variable ignoring parenthesis

inner tapir
lean otter
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how would you do by your logic

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recreate the steps form the original problem

inner tapir
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are you saying the last line should be f(5u + 2)?

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cause then i say absolutely not. that's inconsistent with how we are using transformations of functions

lean otter
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how so

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prove how my logic has a flaw

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also try doing it with your logic

inner tapir
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ok i've made a nice demonstration again (this time with sliders! :D)

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play with h and tell me what you see

lean otter
inner tapir
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between f_0 and f_1

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k i will look

lean otter
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logically that doesn't make any sense

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if i was too move every point, on the graph (yes, i know there is an infinite number of points), the graph's slope shouldn't be changing like the red is

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it should be how the blue is changing by simply moving horizontally

inner tapir
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ok so two things

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  1. the vid is incomplete
  2. it's incomplete because while the h that you and the vid author are using will shift the graph horizontally, it's not by h units! the effect is happening, but you are misreporting the value. unfortunately she only goes over a simple example where there is no horizontal stretch 😦

i can try to find a yt link if that's easier to learn from?

inner tapir
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while f_1 is shifting h/b

lean otter
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either one of us is color blind or we aren't looking at the same thing

inner tapir
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im so sorry i have a blue light thing i took a gamble lol

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ill change to the names

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i included the vertical line for h, but you can add the one for h/b so you can see that better

lean otter
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ok, answer me this

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set b=5 and h=-2

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type the 2-(1/(5x+2))

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and make both equations -f

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why does mine give back the correct graph while yours gives a diff one

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also add 2

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for k

inner tapir
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ok

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done

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well the problem is that i'm saying h isn't -2

lean otter
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i said b=5

inner tapir
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sorry yes, h

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and negative 🤦

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we're kind of working backwards here

lean otter
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h is -2

inner tapir
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gimme one more try haha

lean otter
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going left is the same as --h

inner tapir
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yep

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sorry i corrected that

lean otter
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you do x-(-h) which turns to x+h

inner tapir
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yes agreed

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ok

lean otter
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and now when you add 2 to the outside for k and do -f for the reflect

inner tapir
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if this doesn't convince you i have to go and you need to sleep on it

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hold up

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just watch

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i've been focused on this shift, but you should see which graph is yours and what the a, b, h, k values are

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...

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this entire time

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you are just reversing my steps

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with the same outcome

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-2/5=h is a very big difference between h=-2

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that's what i've been saying

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i disagreed on the shift this whole time

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you are doing a horiz scale first then moving it l/r, im doing the reverse

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it doesn't matter the order in which you do it, just cause it doesn't show perfectly on the graph doesn't mean it doesn't work

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i just checked with one of the calc BC teachers, my method does work, your method is based on the making every transformation work perfectly for the graph while mine avoids fractions

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the order matters

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again your steps were

  1. left 2
  2. horiz shrink of 1/5

now take the asymptote for instance
it should end up where?

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what's the original problem here

lean otter
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2/5

cerulean canyon
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the same 5x + 2?

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$g(x)=2-\frac{1}{5x+2}$

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$f(x)=\frac{1}{x}$

cerulean canyon
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and the question is?

lean otter
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transformations from fx to gx

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DoomKing

lean otter
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  1. left 2
  2. horiz shrink of 1/5
  3. reflect x axis
  4. up 2
inner tapir
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g(x)=2 - 1/(5x+2)
would the translations from fx to gx be

  1. left 2
  2. horiz shrink of 1/5
  3. reflect x axis
  4. up 2
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horizontal translations are only evident when they affect x directly

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not its scaled form

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in 5x + 2, +2 is a vertical shift

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in 5(x + 2/5), 2/5 is a horizontal shift acting on x

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you can see this through a change of variables

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since you can just swap x + 2/5 = w and do all your computations in terms of this new variable w

lean otter
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$\frac{a}{bx-h}+k$

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it's this form

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DoomKing

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which effectively shifts the axis to the left

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sure, but in that form, the vertical and horizontal offsets are not clear

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you would rather write it in a form that makes it clear what is a vertical and what is a horizontal shift

lean otter
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afx

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vs fax

cerulean canyon
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that makes no sense, those are stretches and compressions

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nothing to do with adding

lean otter
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we are looking at just the denominator

cerulean canyon
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just write it in a way that it is clear what is happening to x and what is happening to f

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if you look only at the denom, to know what shifts and scaling operations are happening, you need to write it in a way that makes it evident

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i.e. 5(x + 2/5), with a horiz shift of 2/5 and a compression of 5

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either that, or a line 5x with a vertical shift of 2

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well 1, the 2nd step is flat out wrong

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the problem is that you will be composing the function a few more times

lean otter
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it's reciprocal of your a

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what 2nd step?

lean otter
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to get 5(x+2/5), assuming this is a deno, you have to first horiz shrink by 1/5 then move it left 2/5

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the order of those 2 doesn't matter

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they do...

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it doesn't

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@lean otter hey i have to go here, but i'm really glad you stuck around and really tried to understand. honestly admirable, i work with a lot of students who would have quit a long time ago 😅

i'm not perfect, but i hope you can use what we worked with (especially that last desmos example). trust me when i say: if i could say the magic words that made you understand what i knew and where i was coming from i would say them !

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do you agree that when moving something horizontally, you are replacing every instance of x with x-h or x+h depending on what direction?

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surely, that's exactly what i meant when i told you to replace x + 2/5 with w

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do you also agree that when stretching/shrinking horizontally, you take the reciprocal of that value (let's define this new value as "a") and replace every instance of x with ax

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if you want to do a change of variable again, yes, but this changes the axis

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then the order does matter

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sure, but i'm not changing the axis

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not in the second case

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i didn't do 2 substitutions

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only 1, for addition

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you want to do 2, for whatever reason

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and then in that case, it does matter

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im only doing 1 substitution for the addition of h

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nope

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when you took the reciprocal and replaced every x with ax

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this is a change of variable

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same as when you replaced x with x + h earlier

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this is the reason why in your case it matters, but not in mine

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i did the compression on the same original x axis, you transformed into a new ax axis

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which i honestly find less intuitive

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as soon as you say "replace"

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you're changing variables and moving to a new axis

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so you did 2 substitutions, if you read up what you wrote

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so your method has to be different from the one i was suggesting

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you physically can't do 2 steps in 1 substitution

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this has nothing to do with "physically"

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and i didn't

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i did one substitution and one multiplication

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you did 2 substitutions

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the order of substitutions matters

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how so?

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multiplication is commutative

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i move left 2, then replace x with 5x

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i said "let x + 2/5 = w", and then "compress it by multiplying by 5"

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so i said "multiply 5 by w"

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that's a vertical transformation, and that would affect the numerator

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you said "let x + 2/5 = w, then let u = w/5"

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oh, sure it does, but you yourself said to focus on the denominator

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i never said that

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by the way

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quote me

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i meant denom* that was a typo

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numerator=denominator?

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im still working in context of the problem, i'm just looking specifically at a smaller area

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you need to understand, by the way, that there is no single sequence of transformations that will give you the same result

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there is more than one way of doing it

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you are sticking to a way that is very complicated, too

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i know, but my question was if my 4 steps work

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at which both of you said no

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yeah cuz left 2 is wrong

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the operation + 2 is acting on another function f(x) = 5x

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so it's a vertical shift

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ok let's go step by step from my pov from f(x)=1/x

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$f(x)=\frac{1}{x}$

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$f(x)=\frac{1}{x+2}$

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stop there

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that's a horizontal shift, yes

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no go on to the next step

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$f(x)=\frac{1}{5x+2}$

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every instance of x gets replaced by 5x

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ok, the issue is that this is an operation on x, and not on f(x)

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if you want to transform f(x) into g(x), you need to do something to f(x)

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but here you just swapped out the variable in a way that does not directly translate to an action on f

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the overall action on f(x) in that step is (1/5)f(x+2/5)

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it is on operation on f(x)

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it's always f(ax)

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well, this also depends on how you are seeing it in class

lean otter
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reciprocal of 1/5=5. f(5x)

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the definition i go by is this one

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in my eyes, what you did is replace f(x) by f(w)

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when you should have kept it as a function of x

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so rather a(f(x+h))

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that's vertical

cerulean canyon
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but if you saw it that way in class, that's also ok

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that's entirely different

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it if was vertical you was get 5*1/x

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which is 5/x

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then how would you do the original problem

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using a vertical

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so my comment would be "i prefer doing vertical compressions, you are doing horizontal ones"

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what i would do is

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start with 1/(x)

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shift left by 2/5

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stretch vertically as (1/5) (1/(x + 2/5))

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make negative, so reflect along x axis

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and then shift 2 up

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ah

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i see

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and what you're doing is with horizontal compressions, which i honestly find a pain in the butt

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but horizontal compressions are a change of axis, just like horizontal shifts

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and in that case, order DOES matter

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as you pointed out yourself

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in my case it didn't

lean otter
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ok

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thanks

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cuz i was multiplying outside of f(x)

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i hope that clears it up

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yeah tahnks

cerulean canyon
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as you see, there's more than one way

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thanks*

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that aside, then, your way seems ok

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if I were to have
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is there anything I can use to plot two points and draw a line between them if one is f(x) and the other is always one more x and y value larger than f(x)?

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to be more precise, there are two x^x functions

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one starts at x=0, other at x=1

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if the x=0 function has a point at x=1,y=1, how can I replicate that answer on to the second graph AND add one of both x and y to the answer

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you mean like this?

tawny totem
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yes

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Im tired and am unable to figure it out atm

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just define f and g, then calculate the slope b/w 2 random points on them, then find the eqn of the line

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find the max and minimum value in that set

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i think i can either test some values and write down what happends

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or maybe look into the first derivative?

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First derivative looks like the way to go

hasty trout
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is equal to 0 when

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Yeah

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Now compute the partial derivative with respect to y

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$-\frac{e^{\frac{y+x}{2}}}{2}$ like that?

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3b

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I'm not really sure how I should do this

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I understand that the left denominator can be written as cos

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But no idea of the right

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no it cannot

next gulch
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Oh

ancient escarp
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"use common denominator"

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multiply by the conjugate of the denominator for both of them

next gulch
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Ah yeah that should work

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Forgot about that

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@next gulch wait a second i have a slightly different approach

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rewrite it as $\frac{1}{-1+\sin(x)} + \frac{1}{1+\sin(x)}$

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quantum

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now multiply by the conjugate

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i rewrote it as this for a reason just so you know

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Yeah let me try a few things

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Ty bro for the help

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just realized i could have just multiplied the top and bottom by -1 instead opencry

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@trim hollow you asked a question similar to this earlier if I’m not wrong. Apply that same principle here

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Im trying to solve this, i tried making a taylor polynomial about x=0 of the numerator function but found it got a bit too complex/difficult that made me suspect there must be a better way

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Have you tried L'Hôpital?

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ahh damn im havent learnt that yet but it is the next topic ill have a look at it

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lhopital isnt any better

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you’ve learned taylor polynomials but not lhopitals rule?

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Hello

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For the b) question the function will not be continuous at 5 and 4. But how to write that in mathematical form?

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I thin I take 10000000/100 to find the vaccinated one and 1000000/900 to find not vaccinated one

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thats the data i get
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What is the Pearson correlation coefficient between the two variables? If so, was the decision to choose the t test for dependent samples really justified?

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i know what the Pearson correlation but i dont know the second half of the question

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So are the samples dependent?

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Does anyone know what the heck is going on here:

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6(38)^2 should be 8664 not 228

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i feel like im taking crazy pills

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NVM i figured it out, they messed up the annotation

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it should not be (38)^2 its just 6(38)

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.open

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wf

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What kind of series is this?

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queen parcel
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If you have to use a specific test, then the nth term test works best, given that the limit as n -> ∞ ≠ 0

velvet raft
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can you elaborate on the type of test

cosmic grove
velvet raft
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ratio test?

pulsar condor
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yeah ratio test should be sufficient

cosmic grove
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what is ratio test ?

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sum converges iff ratio of terms is always less than 1

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oh yeah abs value of the ratio

cosmic grove
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well it's called "critère d'Alembert" where I am

pulsar condor
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Im gonna guess D'Alembert proved it first then

balmy marlin
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anyone know implicit derivatives

pulsar condor
cosmic grove
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no cap

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my bad i literally joined 2 mins ago lol

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why did they multiply by y over y in the farmost right

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ik everything else but that

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shut steeple
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when will i get a answer to this

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i am posting this for litterally 3rd time

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and no answer yet

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NO ONE KNEW

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HOW TO SOLVE THIS

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i solved this for fking 6hrs

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i dont wanna solve anymore

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mhm ok

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but

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later

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ill just ppost here rn

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for rn*

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Wanna know a fact

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This question is from russia 1991

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Olympiad

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pastel verge
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Isn't that just (x-p)(x-q)

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Oh I see they screwed it up a bit

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I dont know any names

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But say the rule

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Mhm

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O m g

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Ur god

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Wait so

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Can u give me a example of this

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Rule

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With a cubic

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Equation

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Ok

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1 sign change

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Mhm

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Lets increse it a bit

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X^3-x^2-3x+2

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2 sign change

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O

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But qait

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Wait

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But

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But

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What will i do with number of positive roots

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So basically

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How to find number of negraive roots

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True

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So what can we do it

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We just found out the total integral solutions

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Which is 2

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And we cant have 0 bcoz question already said integral roots lol

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No i meant 0 positive integer and 0 negative integer

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Will result in 0 roots

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So others are imaginary

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So we xant have 0 positive integer

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Cant*

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Lmao

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Ok so

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U said

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Exactly

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And we have 0 negative roots

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B r o i saod that implies

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If there are 0 pos integers and 0 negatice then others are imaginary

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U said either zero or two

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I am taking zero as the situation

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Yup

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Rhis is true

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This*

shut steeple
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I said

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Imaginary roots

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In case of 0 pos integers

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The question

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Said

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The qudratic

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Has integral roots

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yup

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we just found that

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fcn can have 2 possibilities

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  1. 0 positive roots
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we also found we have 0 negative roots and 0 zero roots

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SO in case 1) THERE ARE 0 IMAGINARY ROOTS
which satifies the question itself

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  1. THERE ARE 2 IMAGINARY ROOTS
    which does not satify the question since it already said its integral roots
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yes sir

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.............READ THE LAST LINE

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it says it

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-_-

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yea the function

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fcn is the function

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yes thats what i have been saying how will it have complex roots it has to be integrals so the possible way is 2 positive integral roots

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man

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i am just saying

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2nd case where the roots become imaginary is not possible

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the first case is possible

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of 2 positive integers

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fine let me make it a bit better word

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2nd case where the roots become imaginary is not satifying trhe given condition of question

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the*

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more dots

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o m g

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it already did tho

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it alreayd said it has integral roots

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its a condition

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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either ur not understanding me or i am not understanding u
catBruh

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and this doesnt even lead to a answer

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it just says if its positive or negative

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or imaginary

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and all cases

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.close

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Could someone explain me the relation between the sinus theorem and the circle

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Circumscribed circumference

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not circle

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silent forum
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Hi Soy

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Take triangle ABC inscribed in circle O

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And now drop altitudes from the center Q to each of your sides

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So far so good?

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Let me know when you want me to continue

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Yeah

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So take for instance triangle QAB

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As QA and QB are radii

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They are congruent

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So QAB is isosceles

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And now angle AQB is twice angle ACB

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All good up to this point? @frigid osprey

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Yep, @silent forum

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Ok

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So then let D be the foot of the perpendicular from Q to AB

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Then DQA is equal to DQB

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As AQB is isosceles

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So

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Do u see where im going?

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I think you should be able to finish from here

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Wouldnt want to spoil the whole thing to you :))

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Okay let me represent

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im so slow at math

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q is the center of the cirle

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or of the triangle?

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@silent forum

silent forum
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Center of the circle

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okay

silent forum
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It depends on how u define them

frigid osprey
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alr

fiery flower
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frigid osprey
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I got this by the moment

silent forum
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Ok

frigid osprey
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Is this alright?

silent forum
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Thats great

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Yes

frigid osprey
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Okay

silent forum
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Now see that QA QB and QC are radii

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So what do we know about them?

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I dont know

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That their lenght is the same

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and it is the radium of the circumference

silent forum
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Thats good

frigid osprey
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Alright

silent forum
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So what does this tell us

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Abt QAB

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For instance

frigid osprey
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QAB?

silent forum
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The triangle

frigid osprey
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its a isosceles trianglle

silent forum
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Yes

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okay

silent forum
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Keep in mind btw that were looking for the sin of the angles in our triangle

frigid osprey
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Yep

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Sin was the opposite of the angle/hipothenuse

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or whatever is it said in english

silent forum
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First, how are angles AQB and ACB related?

frigid osprey
silent forum
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Not quite

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Take a look at your diagram

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Seems ok to me

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I may be wrong

silent forum
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Diagram is fine

frigid osprey
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but arent this lines the same (both the opposite?)

silent forum
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Yeah they are congruent

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Meaning that they have the same length

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There's this property of circles

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That an angle with the vertex on it is half an angle with a vertex in the center of the circle

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Given that they intersect the circle in the same two point

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To rephrase this more clearly

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Angle ACB and angle AQB

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Both rest on A and B

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With A being on the circle and Q being the center

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So AQB is twice ACB

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We xan prove this too if you want

frigid osprey
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Congruent means the same thing?

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<@&268886789983436800>

wild cape
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ty

silent forum
frigid osprey
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Altho

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Technically

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Equal segment would coincide

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But that's not usually considered

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Now drop an altitude (or height) from Q to AB

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In ur diagram

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