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Quick question for this function
To find if the function is odd, even, or neither you plug in a -x and and positive x right?
Since negative numbers aren't included in the domain does that mean that the function is neither odd or even?
correct
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it's correct
just expand it and youll figure it out on your own
that
-15 goes with 3 to make -45
-15 goes with 5 to make -75
-15 goes with -1 to make 15
you just got back the original equation
well i dont see how it matters, the same thing could be written as 15(-3x-5y+1)
If you're asking if both are correct, yes, both are correct ways to write this
You can pull out either positive or negative numbers
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Hi! How to do this efficiently?
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how do i do this trig identity
Expand tanx and cscx
sinx cancels
Gimme a sec
Isn't there an identity about 1+cosx?
no
are we doing right or left side
Left
oh we're expanding?
hmm?
Gimme a sec I'll send it
ok
what does it say on the second line
so that second term came from multiplying cosx with 1 and cosx?
1/cosx
Distribution
why does 1/cosx multiplied with cosx give cosx/cosx
cosx in denominator(1/cosx term), cosx in the numerator(cosx term)
Np
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Let $M$ be a set with operations $\circ, \diamond: M \cross M \to M$ such that there exist identity elements $e_{\diamond}$ and $e_{\circ}$ in terms of the operations. Furthermore, it holds: $(a \diamond b) \circ(c \diamond d)=(a \circ c) \diamond(b \circ d)$ for all $a,b,c,d \in M$. I've already shown that $e_{\circ} = e_{\diamond}$. How do I show that $a \circ b = b \diamond a$ for all $a,b \in M$ now?
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Maybe start with $a = a \diamond e{\diamond}$
Kiretori
e subscript diamond
And same thing for b
And apply the relation that holds for all element of M
And then use the fact that the identity elements are equal
And then I think you'll the solution, I don't have a pen paper with me so I'm not 100% sure but it seems that it's the right way
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How do I use the relation then
with this
$b = b \diamond e{*diamond*}$
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and what now?
$(a \diamond b) \circ(c \diamond d)$
Kiretori
You'll have an equality of this type
that's what I have
With b and c both equal e diamond
maybe im getting confused with the variables
Which variables got you confused?
why is c b all of a sudden now
there is no variable c in what I wrote
but we are replacing c with b no?
and b with e diamond now
so wouldn't that mean that b is e diamond
The b in the first relation is not the same b I used here
b just means an element of M
we could've named it h or g or whatever
The relation can be applied not only with variables named a, b, c, d
It can be applied with EVERYTHING that is an element of M
They said prove the equation for all (a,b) of M
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I used alpha and beta instead of a and b
I considered alpha as the a from the relation that holds true for all elements of M
The first e diamond I considered it as the b
The beta as c
isnt the relation $(a \diamond b) \circ(c \diamond d)=(a \circ c) \diamond(b \circ d)$
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Yes this relation holds for everything that is an elemant of M
They don't have to be named a, b, c, d
I just used it with alpha, beta, e diamond, e diamond
Even though there is two e diamonds it doesn't matter
but then we would get $\alpha \circ \beta$ for the first term, no
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Because the relation holds for all the elements it didn't say that they should be all different from each other
To prove alpha cirlce beta = alpha diamond beta
We can do it in two ways
We can start from alpha circle beta
And show that it's equal to alpha diamond beta
Or the other way around
I started from alpha circle beta
And then using the relations that are defined in M
but you used the relation incorrectly, no?
Why incorrectly?
look at the order
The order of what
$(a \diamond b) \circ(c \diamond d)=(a \circ c) \diamond(b \circ d)$
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so if we have alpha for a, e diamond for b, beta for c and e diamond for d
Oh I see, it wouldn't change much if circle and diamond are commutative
But since they didn't say it is
Let me rewrite it in the correct way
now it's clear I think
okay, yeah, it's clear to me now
It's just a question of commutativity, and I think for an operation to have an identity element it has to be commutative, no?
I don't really remember, I haven't studied this subject in quite some time
not necessarily
actually
it depends on how you define your identity element
it could left merely left identity
just a thing on how you define it
nonetheless, you can deduce that it is also right identity and therefore commutative
Yeah yeah, even if the operation isn't commutative, it has to be commutative for the identity element
yeah
I just didn't pay attention to the relation at first I thought it swaps the b and d not b and c
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Hw problem, proofs with inductions. I'm having trouble of what to do next after applying the exponent law at the bottom
don't start with what you want to prove
so you want to transform that into something like the inductive step
start with LHS and rewrite using equalities and inequalities until you get RHS
but use 3<5 and 4<5, then factor then apply inductive hypothesis
and you get 5^(k+1)
How would I go about transforming the left into the right
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3^(k+1)+4^(k+1)=3 * 3^k+ 4 * 4^k<= 5 * 3^k + 5 * 4^k. can you finish now?
no im still not understanding very well
$$3^{k+1}+4^{k+1}=3 \cdot 3^k+ 4 \cdot 4^k \leq 5 \cdot 3^k + 5 \cdot 4^k = 5(3^k+4^k)\leq 5 \cdot 5^k= 5^{k+1}$$
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so we're trying to get to 5^k+1 by using the lhs of our inductive step to prove. where does the (53k + 54k) part come from, did we just pick 5 to make the inequality true?
We had to do some factoring to get (3^k+4^k) so we could apply inductive hypothesis
That would give us the 5^k part so we were just missing a 5 multiplied by that
Hence i used 3<5 and 4<5
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what did you find f'(x) to be?
I got -5/12
-1/3x^2 - 4/x^3
how
Is it correct?
Wait let me check again
Oh yeah
it should be $1/(3x^2) - 4/(x^3)$
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could someone help me over at #multivariable-calculus
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would be greatly appreciated 🙏
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what have you tried?
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how do i do this?
i dont get it
if we take the product of the three numbers as y
then we will have 2 variables
hmm
yeah
i dont get it
4x(x+3) = 55
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Can someone help me with 6
there is no 6?
wait sry i meant level 2 1
OH OK
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did you just write 1/(a-b) as 1/a - 1/b??
the reciprocal of 1-x is not 1 - 1/x
replacing sqrt(3)/3 with x for simplicity, this is what you write as your first step:
$\frac{1+x}{1-x} = (1+x)\paren{\frac{1}{1} - \frac{1}{x}}$
Ann
do i understand you correctly?
yes or no
i'm not saying anything.
no i'm not saying anything. i am asking you whether or not this is what you intended to write
and you are not answering...
yeah
that's wrong.
your first step is wrong.
$\frac{1}{a-b} \neq \frac{1}{a} - \frac{1}{b}$
Ann
no this isn't correct!
you're still making that very same mistake, just further down the line!
...yes
you're making this more complicated than it needs to be
i don't want to see another attempt riddled with the same mistakes as before
ok fine
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ghosted again 
,calc (1 + sqrt(3)/3)/(1 - sqrt(3)/3) - (2 + sqrt(3))
Result:
-4.4408920985006e-16
okay, it appears you're correct now
even if your way of doing it was all kinds of roundabout
multiplying the numerator and denominator of the big fraction by 3
by sqrt(3) :p
whoops
you can multiply by 3 but multiplying by sqrt(3) is a bit faster
yeh
you get $\frac{\sqrt{3} + 1}{\sqrt{3} - 1}$
Ann
which you can then rationalize to get $\frac{(\sqrt{3}+1)^2}{2}$
Ann
no it's not set in stone by any means
however, when dealing with nested fractions, it is usually a good idea to do something to immediately make the fractions not nested anymore
fractions within fractions
not really what i tried to allude to...
also, it's denominator
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Given is the set $A = {|x|+|y| \leq \sqrt{2}} $. The solution states that a parameterization is $(x,y)=\begin{pmatrix}\frac{1}{2}(u+v)\\frac{1}{2}(u-v)\end{pmatrix}$. As a hint in the task they said that one can use $(x,y)=\begin{pmatrix}u+v\u-v\end{pmatrix}$. How can i find the factor $\frac{1}{2}$ though?
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I know that the set describes a square thats turned in a way i guess
but im really stuck and dont know how to find the factor 1/2
oh also in the solution they said that $u,v\in[-\sqrt{2},\sqrt{2}]$
Kurama
i feel like this could be reduced to a simple system of equations, but somehow i cant get it right
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I'm trying to study for inequalities and I keep getting stuck on this problem and am having a hard time trying to figure it out
@rustic gust which of the two conditions are you having trouble converting into an inequality? the weight one or the "4 times as much" one?
4 times as much
(number of cars) ≥ 4 * (number of games)
it can literally be translated word for word
the amount of remote controlled cars (y) must be at least (≥) four (4) times (*) the amount of board games (x)
Alright, That makes more sense now, Thank you very much!
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Hey guys, does the vertex formula (-b/2a) work with minimum turning points as well, or only maximum?
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what is this asking me to do?
like, the second and last line
what is y(8)|x²y" + 5xy' + 4y = 0 supposed to mean? i mean, i know " means double derivative and ' means derivative. but what about the y(8)| ?
might be asking you to find y(8) given that y(x) satisfies that differential equation
oh
third line doesn't seem to make sense, since each line is supposed to give a value..
but idk about the set notation
yea
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Assume we roll 2 ten sided dice. What is P({first roll larger than second roll})? Answer in reduced fraction form - eg 1/5 instead of 2/10.
can you assume that the probability is half or do you have to think of every possible outcome?
we can have (1,10-2), ( 2, 10 - 3), (3, 10 -4) etc
how do I calculate that or do I have to think about the individual outcomes
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can anyone give me the answer, im really struggling
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I just want to ask about the mark beside each mcq answer
When it comes to money what does the c with line over it mean
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Wait cents have a sign oh...
Ok thank you
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please help me with math question what is 1000002385+2833
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1000005218 according to google calculator
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"How do you choose a value for k so that f(x)=x^3 + kx lacks any extreme points"
The answer is quite obvious when you take the derivative (3x^2 +k) just from intuition you know that the answer is k>0 (since you can't allow the derivative to touch the x-axis)
But is there some general method to prove it? Cause I wouldn't know how to solve it if a similar but more complicated question came on a test
Sorry if translations are off
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I suppose the general method would be to take the derivative and pick a value of k that makes the derivative not equal 0 or an undefined value
IF these questions are only asked with polynomials then the derivative would be another polynomial so just knowing when polynomials are going to equal 0 may help
This is kinda what I already did
like for ex if the above problem was $-x^3+kx$ Then the derivative would be $-3x^2+k$ and since it would be facing down you'd know that it works for $k<0$
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Yep, imagining it in your head works too
I feel like this type question can really be asked with a cubic too, like if it was a quartic then there wouldn't be a value of k that works
Yeah I already tried that, there's always an extreme point no matter what
I think it's for every odd it's k>0 and even has no solution
yea i think the question would have to be something different at that point
assuming no other parameters change other than the exponent in the first term ofc
alright, I guess that answers my question then, unless you were about to type something?
nah thats it
i was trying to think of an example question of something similar
but it was getting too long lol so nvm wouldn't be asked a test
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Well theres three prices of stamps you can buy
3
10
And
15
So youre looking for the lowest combination of all of those that is still above 12
No there are from 3 to 10, 4 5 6 7 and 8 are there too
Oh yeah
How many stamp
So you have
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
And
15
Then
The fact that you can make exactly 12 cents makes this easier
Cause you can buy 4 3 cent stamps, 3 4 cent stamps
5 and 7 or 9 and 3
It's not exactly 12 it's between 8 and 12
Meaning 9, 10 and 11 are allowed
12 is not allowed
Still it has to be less than 12
Meaning youd have to have the highest possible price at least
When something says "a to b inclusive" its meant to include a and b
No we need the least amount of price to but stamps not the highest
Well so if you buy 9 cents of stamps
And it ends up being 11 cents
What will you do
It said between 8 and 12 inclusive not from 8 to 12 can you please read the question
If you dont want help thats fine
Well I mean if it wasnt inclusive of 8 and 12
Then there would probably be an option in the multiple choice for something less than 12
Cause you can make prices down to 3 cents even
You can make 8, 9, 10 etc
Im fairly certain that its 12 cents
I mean maybe your teacher does stuff differently
But from what I know it should be from 8 to 12 including both 8 and 12
Did you reach the answer?
Im still p sure its 12
No that's wrong
You tried it?
A is not the correct answer... no I have mark scheme
Yeah I have the answer
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Well if you have the answer itd be easier to explain the given answer than come up with one
What prevents you from just buying 4 3 cent stamps
because you cant pay 8 cents with that
Oh I understand the question
That's really great... can u explain it to me too
@lean otter
i am thinking of a logical solution
start by noting that there isn't much point in buying 6c+ stamps as you could just buy at least 2 lower value stamps for more combinations
.
@lean otter tell me how did you get it how did you think of the answer
I dont think theres any formula or easy way to get to the answer
You just think about it
you are left with 3,4,5 coins so you could write out what you need
8=5+3=4+4
9=5+4=3+3+3
10=5+5=4+3+3
11=5+3+3=4+4+3
12=4+4+4=3+3+3+3=5+4+3
and then just brute force, cant really think of any solution
Ok but still why do you think she can cover any postage value from 8 to 12
Cause she can
because if i take 3,3,4,5
8=3+5
9=4+5
10=3+3+4
11=5+3+3
12=5+4+3
I really appreciate your help but please stop
Yeah but that's the least amount she spend on stamps
Money on stamps should be separated from postage coverage
???
wdym
Yeah OK I got it
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i found first derivative ,but both terms are constant
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they shouldnt be constant?
assuming you differentiate wrt v
does that make sense 👀
,w derivative with respect to v of (18)/(120-2v) + (15)/v
looks like a sign error?
yea, to find the critical point
then depending on your numeric reasoning skills, youll need to do some additional work to ensure you've actually found a minimum
the second derivative test works pretty well for this through concavity
you may also be able to think out the shape of this function, too
im having trouble finding v
i got 0 and 60 as my cp's and i plugged them into the original equation,but you cant drive at 0 speed and 60 gives undefined 
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ty for your help,but im going to go back and reread the chapter
i dont think so
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Because for v=150 you get C(v)=0
And that’s kinda nice to not pay
0 and 60 are undefined
have you looked at a graph of the cost function?
that may help guide your answer
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im getting an answer way off from the example problems answer
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I'm having some trouble with a related rates problem!
There's a square with sides expanding at a rate of 6 cm/second. Find the rate at which the area of the square is expanding when the area of the square is 16 cm^2. The problem is, the book says the answer is 48 cm^2 per/second and I'm getting 8 cm^2/second. 😅
So I know A = x^2, x' = 6 cm/s, and right now, A = 16 cm^2. So, I can set 16 = x^2, which means x is 4. When we differentiate A = x^2, we get A' = 2x, which means that A' = 2(4) which equals 8! Which is not what my books says. Where am I messing up?
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you differentiated A with respect to x (side length) and not t (time)
dA/dt should be what you're looking for
use the chain rule to get it
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How do I determine if this infinite series converges or diverges?
Can I just use the ratio test?
Honestly I'd just attempt to find the limit since it'll have some amount of telescoping
find the Nth partial sum then limit
the limit of the series or partial sum
limit of the partial sum
infinite series is the limit of the series of partial sums
$\sum_{i=0}^\infty =\lim_{N\to\infty}\sum_{i=0}^N$
Mosh
oh I see
alright ill try it out
wait tho
@pulsar condor what partial sum formula do i use for this
you have a telescoping series
yeah
oh
alright
im not so great with series
i gotta relearn it
teachr didnt teach it well at all
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but is that the partial sum formula?
yes if your sum goes up to n
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yes.
doesnt the limit just equal infinity
right
got it
thanks so much
wait
@pulsar condor
isnt the partial sum of the series the same thing as the sum
like
since we have the partial sum of n numbers
isnt that the same as just the sum
or am i confused
Yeah, your notation was poor
hence why I made the upper bound of the partials not the index
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You don't. That's notation for inverse function
You could, but as I stated, that -1 is notation for inverse function
So distribution is one way, or doing $g \circ f$ first then finding the inverse should result in the same thing
dldh06
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For the complex number (-1-i) how isn't it's angle 45°??
This is how I calculated it
Arctan(-1/-1)
which is the same as
arctan(-1/-1)
Which is equal to 1
And according to this
That's 45°
But obvs I did something wrong so pls help
Ah nvm I figured it out
It's becuase -1-i is on the third quadrant
Which means I needed to subtract or add 180° to 45°
Thank you
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I've tried putting this equation equal to each other on Maple, but it doesn't work
The right part is the equation for an circle, shown in yellow:
The left part is the function shown in blue
I can't seem to get the other x value for the other crossing point, which is kind of an issue
Since I have to find them both
,w solve 2cos(1.6x+3.85)+2.0=4-0.02sqrt(-2500x^2+7600x+18249)
Appreciate it 😄
Yeah, seems really weird
But wolfram alpha comes to the rescue once again.
Since all other solutions are complex numbers
Can you use the calculator for free?
Or is it a subscription?
Its free except for some functions i think
I just used the texit bot which is connected to wolfram alpha
Ohh okay
Is there any possible way, you can insert both x values into the left equation?
Since I'm getting the y-coordinate to two different things on my calculator
There probably is
Maybe go to the website of wolfram alpha and use the equation solver
Let it solve your equation and i think it will give you the option to use your answer
No problem
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Hello, I hope you're day is going well
I have no clue how to do this, can I get some help? Thanks!
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so $\frac{4^n}{4^{2n+2}$
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$\frac{4^n}{4^{2n+2}}$
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Hello, I have made this graph based on this data, How would I make a single line of trend that represents all of them?
(this specific graph excludes the US and China since they are outliers and cause the data to be difficult to visualize)
(the values are military expenditure btw)
like so?
Is that the average or mean?
yes
Then yeah, that's what you want
but more than this being a math question, I am trying to find out how I can put it into a graph as a straight line
Oh as a straight line
You could just connect the end and starting point
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How do I solve this
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Anyone get how theres 3 extrema?
I only see one at 0 and 15
because f'x changes sign
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@vestal marsh there's one at... uh, 9 or something?
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8 is cube number
thanks
how do i grt my own channel
huh
tysmmmm
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turn 2.1 into a fraction
add
then simplify
for b and c, just do it
remember that 2 - signs make a +
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I would need a way to get a y = f(x) function for y > 0 when :
$\frac{(e^{1+y})}{\left(x+e\right)}-\ln(y+1)-\ln(x+e)=0$
Mr. Rotor
top side red curve
I'm looking for it but it seems quite doomed
$\frac{(e^{x})}{y}-\ln(x)-\ln(y)=0$
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would work too
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hello
So regarding indices and doing sqrt and cbrt to them
if i have cbrt(x^5)
do i do 5-3
or 5/3
5/3
yes
ty ty
it’s also the same as (2^6)^(1/2)
in that case you multiply the exponents
have a great day
no problem
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Can someone help me with this?
what are you trying to do
,rotate
what is the lcm of 2 and 5
then first bring all x to one side and the rest on the other side
yeah but i cant bring x to one side
you can
dude i obv cant which is why im asking for help
it’s a linear equation, this won’t take long
Ok, why do you think you can't bring them on the other side?
or preferably get rid of the denominators
multiply both sides by the lcm of 2 and 5
then add that with x/2?
yeah but if i multiply one side with 2 then i need to do the other
what do you mean by extend
What does this mean?
you multiply by the lcm of the two denominators
multipy the numerator and denominator with 5
in the case of 2
then multiply the denominator 5 with 2
no that’s extra work
idk what lcm is
least common multiple
dk what that is either
the least common multiple is 10 here
between 2 and 5
basically call the numbers in the denominators a and b, multiply both sides by ab
which in this case is 2*5
$\frac{1}{2} +\frac{4}{3} = ?$
so lcm is denominators multipled by each other?
Moriarty
in this situation
i would find the number that i can multipy 2 and 3 with so they would be same
so it would be 6
Multiplying denominators is a method to finding a common denominator, for the fractions
so i would mukltipoly 2 with 3
and then 1 with 3 aswel
aha
oh i understand then
ok so
i multiply the fractions with 10?
ok but what happens if i multipy with fraction by 10
doesint it just get bigger
x/2
will become
10x/20
$\frac{a}{c} + \frac{b}{d} = \frac{a * d}{c * d} + \frac{b * c}{c * d} = \frac{ad}{cd} + \frac{bc}{cd} = \frac{ad + bc}{cd}$
is that what you mean?
Moriarty
cause i divided by 10
or shit
yeah
im tired
so what im supposed multiply both sides with 10?
1st bring all x to one side and the rest on the other side,
2nd use the formular I write above
dude what
how does it become 5x
if i just multipled with 10
x/2 * 10 = 10x/2 = 5x
why does the 2 become 20
bro i dont understand that formula
it doesn’t
its confusing because its so many variables and stuff
i meant why does the 2 not become 20
there isn’t a 20 in what i just sent
if i multipy with 10
yes
i just understood that
wow
ok so ive probably hit a brickwall in my studying right?
should i sleep or just take a break
whatever you want considering you thought i meant 10/10 when i said 10 lol
ok
you’re the only one that can close it anyways
ok
but im still stuck
what do i do after doing muliplying with 10
cause i still cant get rid of the frations
If you multiplied by 10, it gets rid of all the fractions
why and how
Because of simplification
10 / 2 = ?
10 / 5 = ?
$\frac{10}{2} * x -150 = \frac{10}{5} * x$
Moriarty
whatever im just gonna keep it as a law that if you muliply with the common multiple then the frations disappear, still dont understand why tho
because of this:
$\frac{a}{c} + \frac{b}{d} = \frac{a * d}{c * d} + \frac{b * c}{c * d} = \frac{ad}{cd} + \frac{bc}{cd} = \frac{ad + bc}{cd}$
Moriarty
why did my x become a 10
Look up concepts about clearing fractions
That's what you're doing
It's not some law, it's a concept of simplification

yes