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yo teacher might have messed up
just write no real solution after proving D < 0
even 3 is
imaginary
how did u solve 3
teach might have used the gpt ✌️✌️✌️✌️
Oh then must be from quadratics. Js open the whole square.
Then this yh. Idk wht else ur teacher can expect.
see the 3rd ques
its also imaginary
Wht r supposed to with these eqn? Whats the instructions.
Solve the equations
yeah so the only solution is x = -3 +4i and -3-4i
Oh yeah then prob js prove Discriminant<0 and say it has no real soln. As you must have done with 3.
,rccw
expand
If I jus square rooted the 16
wow stuff i can actually do 😭
fr 😭
Lol
yes
you can expand both sides
and turn into a normal quadratic
Huh
number 14 you can square root the 16
but remember when you add a square root what do you do
where's your pfp btw?
Plus or minus it?
ok now simplify
yea
1 divided by 0 equals Infinity
- +4-2 and -4-2
do you know that if you multiply by 0 everything is 0
Yes
which means that one of the factors have to be 0
I don’t understand
assume no factors are 0
will you ever get a 0 as a result?
Huh
If A • B = 0, what can you say about A and B?
In words, what kind of numbers do you need if you want their product to be 0?
Hint: don't overthink
at least one of them is 0
now replace A with (x-1) and B with (x+8)
there has to be a zero right?
whats this abt?
since -2 doesn’t have an x it can never be 0
yea
yeah
r e a d
t h e
p i n n e d
m e s s a g e
and the full convo
ok
Do you want me to expand?
uhhh no
no
A = x - 1
B = x + 8
so the only thing when (x-1)(x+8) = 0
is when at least one of them is 0
so
CASE WORK
Or do you mean that guys rule
Where you get x alone?
I forgot the name of the guy
?
I forgot the name
is that the guy who brings in the golden rules or smth?
there’s a rule 😭
I actually don’t know what you want me to do
okay
No
so A * B = 0
what do you know about A or B
So
yes
Oh
two cases
wait is it the zero product rule?
🥀
so apply that
nah
Ok
what answer did u get?
3/2 and 1
what
ok so how did you get 3/2
can we use quadratic in this gng?
quadratic is slower
then what method is better?
if you can
factoring
or completing the square
🔥
hmm
does that say 9x^2=x?
Yeah
okay so try setting the RHS to 0
What’s that
yeah that’s the answer
tranpose everything to LHS
BRUHHHHHHHHHHH
try square rooting both sides
Yes that
do this
Yo gg gng
what did you do
numba 7
no
okay
Starting with �, move all terms to one side to make the equation equal zero: �. Then factor out the common term �, giving �. Using the zero-product rule, either � or �. Solving the second equation gives �, so �. Therefore, the solutions are � and �.
Oh
what
I minuses
Mb
Instead of diving
ye
some weird characters found
do you know this
ax^2
when you square root both sides
it’s sqrt(a)x
and the other side has a $\pm$ 😭
1 divided by 0 equals Infinity
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good job
@safe radish he asked for it
let me write it in latex
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and no excuses
@open wedge tf
wht happened?
[
ax^2
]
[
\sqrt{ax^2}
]
[
\sqrt{a}\sqrt{x^2}
]
[
\sqrt{a},x
]
! sniper3d107
he used AI to generate his answer
which violated 2 rules of the help channel as shown
do you know this @fickle mantle
related to this help thing
AIs are strictly prohibited if you want to help someone no matter what
Do we get the moderator ping 🤔
i'd wanna do it if he did one more time
well retry the problem where a=9
one serious doubt @open wedge who will Ai for this easy stuff man
imagine calling police for noai
fr 
loll
I don’t understand what ur saying
did u get it @fickle mantle ?
okay so we have 9x^2=1
you can see that 9x^2 is ax^2 right,
No
Yes
hell nah i got blocked by OP?
damn
Root over 1?
one piece?
Then divided by 9?
root over 1 and root over 9x^2
Oh
because what you do to one side you do to the other
Won’t that half the 9
yes
that's different from 9*1/2 which halves the 9
what is 9^(1/2)
Erm for questions like this
What’s the basic rule
Ik how to solve it but also DOTN n pe how to
I just guess what to do
i mean
like what to do first?
Yes
$ax^2 + c = 0$ then move $c$ to the other side and square root
1 divided by 0 equals Infinity
$ax^2 + bx = 0$ then factor $x$ out
try and set right hand side to 0
1 divided by 0 equals Infinity
or this
full quadratic means quadratic formula
,tex .quadratic formula
or factor or complete the square if you can
! sniper3d107
very beautiful 🤤
I d ok nt understand
A song about the quadratic formula. You can memorize the whole formula and also understand the proof.
Also on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/58wC7hkQ7qoyXkZh3Rivkm
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This is my first attempt to write a song about mathematics in english. I alre...
What’s the basic for solving questions like all these
we rlly dont need this
i'd like to sing with this guy to remember the formula
i have the pop goes the weasel song
.
well it’s different for some
see, you gotta see what all algebraic stuff applies in ur equation
Yo guys why cant we divide with 0
!occupied
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like suppose the formulas for sqaures or cubes, sometimes squaring both sides
Wait what’s examples of this
refer to #❓how-to-get-help
Aw
examples of?
good job
The algebra basic
solve for $x$: $x^2 + 3x + 2 = 0$
1 divided by 0 equals Infinity
that's one kind of your question
like 9x^2=1
it can be solved by rooting both sides and solving
but 9x^2=x
you had to set the right hand side as 0 then solved
quad formula to be used ryt?
yea but it's not neccessary
unless you factor
yeah
if $x = 0$ then yk what it is, else divide both sides by $x$
1 divided by 0 equals Infinity
done and dusted
or the ac, b method
that's one method of factoring
Oh ok
tbh, it's called pattern recognition
mathematics is not just about memorizing kinds of questions, it's about using your head to solve different kinds of problem

thats how great mathematicians got these formulas in the first place
did u get how to solve these types of questions @fickle mantle
did she solve this?
that's just an example i gave
oh
Yes
solve the problem given above
yayy 👏
also that's she/her
mhm
wahts the question?
,rccw
,rccw
which one the top one or the bottom one
Number 5
so good so far
,rccw
this a tedious one gng ✌️
it's called

applying the quadratic formula
if you can't factor then just use the formula
it's just that factoring helps you solve faster
My answer seems wrong
what is ur answer
hmmm'
im trying too ill let ya know when i solve it
even im struggling with this what
😭
why u apologising
Wasting ur time
I easily forget how to do things so I gave to go all Tyyy e way back even though I’m in a high grade
Oh ok
lol
Autocorrect is gonna kill me
lets not deviate from our main topic other wise it'd be breaking the rules (not tryna discourage you of talking)
u can dm me if u wanna talk :)
im not much help 😭
did everyone leave
Ig
Ty
lol
I can solve some of the questions rn
But I want help w learning completing the square
yeah
that completing square is something that even i dont get sometimes
but ill try my best to help
,rccw
The right side
I’d the 2(x-3)
Suppose to be in a bracket
So the - affects it all
I get c fused w the negative things
i like to think of -1
and distributing
hmm
so like pretend you already foiled 2(x-3)
which is 2x-6
now you have -(2x-6)
and then think about -1
so it’s -1(2x-6)
then you foil
foil

bros getting typo after typo

😭
i’m tired 😭
Tysm
you can also think of it like this
wat'd u get as final answer
which is -1 * 2 👍
Oo
Still solving
mhm
i’m supposed to be sleeping 
I’m stuck
can you show?
controversial ive heard it is but bigger risk = bigger reward
,rccw
no bro
this guy is unemployed
ok so
and uhm
😭
-4 is -2 , 2 what ??
ac, b factoring method
js factoring bro
Mb
ok so you can’t do the ac, b method
what is acb
your last resort is quadratic formula
Same
Oh ok
the ultimate move 🤫
gentle reminder to take care of your health and physique before doing good math!
,rccw
If I eat now I’ll get distracted
nah id win, i eat crayons
take a full meal first, then come back later. math can wait, not your hunger.
for factoring it is ax^2 + bx + c = 0
where you need to find 2 numbers(let’s say m, and n)that mutiply to ac and add to b
where an+m = b
which leads to (ax+m)(x+n) = 0
I got a test on Tuesday
what day is it today?
bro ik what is factoring bro.

wise word
I don't think taking an hour off to eat lunch/dinner or whatever meal would harm your math, but sorry for the intrusion if that's the case. please proceed.
everyone knows it i js didnt knw it had name
ah
seems good
crayons>>>
you are on the right track skittles
@fickle mantle yayy u got it 👍
No I can take ur advise. Only thing is, I watch videos while eating and it’ll distract me
,rccw
I would like to just say I'm not asking you to eat while doing math, so watching a vid or two while eating, while unhealthy (depending on who you ask), is not wasted time on math anyway.
Oki
and if you are afraid of running afoul of time you can always set an alarm.
Lemme finish this then I’ll eat
but I digress, and I'm sorry for barging in with unwanted advice. please continue.
Stop it’s not unwanted

u doin good thing mate, should be proud 👍
@fickle mantle
u done with ur doubt
?
or u still hv one?
I see why I got it wrong
hm
ok
okki
cya
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put x =1 , y = 0
and solve the formed quadratic in terms of fx
also
putting x=0,y=0 we get f(0) = 0
that will solve it
answer is pretty funny
how we know it is quadratic
!show
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no
fx is not quadratic
when we put y = 0 in the given equation
we get a quadratic in terms of fx
that means instead of x
you solve for fx
but when i put y=0 i get f(0)=0
no , keep x = x and y = 0
guh , no
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f(x+0)(x-0)=(f(x)-f(0))x
f(x)x=(f(x)-f(0))x
f(0)=0
right
i read the ques as
f(x+y)f(x-y) = RHS
mb
is the answer just f(x) = x
it can be one of the solutions
can it not?
it is
so its solved then or wot
we want to find all solutions and justify that these are the only ones
ahh right
i did somethinf
idk if it does anything tho
this might look crazy
but..
RHS looks like derivative
f neednt be differentiable
but this does provide some intuition
@wet ridge
notice that the solution space is linear
also if f(x) satisfies the functional equation so does f(-x)
write the function f as a sum of an even and an odd function and work with each of them $g(x) = \frac{f(x) + f(-x)}{2}$ and $h(x) = \frac{f(x) - f(-x)}{2}$
k
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why the right hand side is 2^2 not (2.001)^2
seems arguable
Recall the def. of a limit
for a function $f: \R \to \R$, its derivative at a point can be written as:
$$f'(c) = \lim_{h\to0}{ f(c+h)-f(c)\over h }$$
Because it's x^2, not (x+h)^2
assuming theres such derivative
h is just a really small quantity
if instead of solving the limit, we numerically approximate the solution, with, lets say, c = 2, h = 0.001
Youre left with
$f'(2
) \approx {f(2.001) - f(2)\over 0.001}$
Look at how this is written
the definition that you have thrown is the conclusion
im asking how it works
and why it is not f'(2.001) instead
Its just how the derivative has been defined.
im still in the state where it has not been defined
?
If this step doesnt bring any doubts, then you already know the definition of a derivative.
3b1b is helping viewers to invent calculus
he leads to a rather conclusion suddenly saying this is equals to 2^2, which is rather arguable in my opinion
why it is not (2.001)^2?
could you explain?

well, $2^2 \approx (2.001)^2,$ so you could write it as $\dv{A}{x} \approx (x+h)^2$ if you really wanted to
but as $h \to 0,$ $(x+h)^2 \to x^2$ anyways. intuitively, whether you hold onto the left side or right side of the rectangle, it will become a line at $x=2$ in the end
حسیب ♥
imo there is a bit of convention here: we start at x, then go h units to the right. but you could start at x+h, and go h units to the left to get (x+h)-h = x
Because they are very close and we are trying to illustrate f'(2), not f'(2.001)
It's an approximation so it doesn't matter since in the end we need to take the limit anyways
in fact, consider $\alpha = x + h$, then $\alpha - h = x$, so $$\frac{f(\alpha - h) - f(\alpha)}{-h} = \frac{f(x)-f(x+h)}{-h} = \frac{f(x+h)-f(x)}{h}$$
so going from $x \to x+h$ or from $x+h \to x$ yields the same thing
حسیب ♥
Intuitively yes but here x is fixed so you can only have h goes to 0
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Btw, if you have a continuous differentiable function for this, then the direction doesnt really matter.
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@west hedge Has your question been resolved?
What else do you need?
so uhm, why do you think it should be f'(2.001)?
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this my question
what have you tried?
I thought about it an i thought it was 4. because I thought "if the initial value of the seconds its in air is 4, then after 2 seconds it should be 6" but i was wrong
then i checked it online and it said it was the first one, but I didn't really understand why that's why im here
Whats the difference between the one you have and the one you search ?
it was the same one
But what differs
wait im confused what are you asking
i searched up the same question online
i got the answer on brainly, but I didn't really understand why that was the answer
Its the same path, so values will be the same, but they say to you smth about the time
What does it mean?
Math speaking
no that was me, I was confused
i thought the 4 at the start meant that the ball was in the air for 4 seconds
at the start
they said that (t-2) should be the time for the second ball
thats not correct
yeah exactly
Yes
i thouht that but when i checked it was wrong
Why is that the case ?
the 4 means that at the start, the ball is 4 units in the air
but I dont get why t-2 is the time for second ball when it is hit AFTER the first ball why is it -
If it is the same trajectory, then you will have same values but with just a time difference
and why is it T minus 2 is t the starting time?
is T like the time the first ball was hit
you want h=4 to start at t=2 now, instead of t=0 (starting point) maybe that helps
So when t = 0 for the first ball, its height is the same as the second ball at t = 2
so t-2=0
You can easily make the experiment by yourself actually
Do you have a ball and a timer?
ye
yeah then what 😭
At 0 sec, see how the first ball will be at the same height as the second ball is at 2sec
i mean the height is the same the ball is just hit 2 seconds after
Yep so thats why we shift
Only
ohhh so like in a graph
Sure
like you shift it -2 so right 2
Exact
so after 2 sec
so the T at the start was the time for the first ball
and the t-2 replaces the T for the second balls time??
Yes
You're welcome
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Does anyone know how there are 2 integrals with 2 different y values and why there are 2 integrals being used?
theres one section of the graph being completely disregarded and im not sure why
This problem splits into two integrals because when you take cross-sections perpendicular to the y-axis, the left and right boundaries of the region change depending on the value of y.
is there a way you can show this visually?
Sorry man but I don’t have that power
im a bit tad confused
😔
Whenever the left or right boundary changes, you need multiple integrals.
More explicitly, from $y=0$ to $y=1$, the region is contained between $x=0$ and $x=\sqrt[3]{y}$. This corresponds to the red sub-region you highlighted.
From $y=1$ to $y=6.4$, the region is contained between $x=\ln(y)$ and $x=\sqrt[3]{y}$, which corresponds to the orange region you drew.\
Since the bounding curves change along the way, you have to split the integral, as Braydon explained.
Azyrashacorki
Also which part do you feel is omitted?
You could imagine in this that the lower bound in $x$ is defined piece-wise by $$x(y) = \begin{cases}0; \quad &0\le y \le 1 \ \ln(y); \quad &1 \le y < 6.4 \end{cases}.$$ Therefore you need to split the integral like you would for any piece-wise function.
Azyrashacorki
okay i understand where the red and orange regions came from, but what happens to the region on the left side of the Y-axis? shaded in cyan
if it was the integral from 0 to 1, wouldn't it count for the Black and Cyan region?
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is the factorized form of x^2-2x-15 equal to (x-5)*(x+3)
you can check this yourself by expanding your factorisation and seeing if it matches
i find for simple ones graphing helps as well 
ty
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Is there a way to solve this question without using psuedoforces?
,rccw
pseudoforces are going to be the easiest way i think, pretending that someone is pushing the block to the left rather than pushing the wedge to the right
Yeah it definitely is! I was just wondering if there was a way to do it without?
um well "remains stationary" isn't really true at that point; you want it to move linearly
it becomes dynamics rather than statics which is harder
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How would you do it with dynamics
uhhhh i guess you'd find the paths of the block and the wedge and ensure that the block's vertical velocity is equal to 0
Could you show me
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Can I get help with finding the velocity of this function?
Is this a displacement function?
are you dealing with projectiles?
I tried making a function to represent a quarter pipe with a concave
I used an ellipse equation for it
And then made it equal to y
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I know there are proper definitions for these things but i have been struggling. So the idea of openness for a subset A in R^n is just that A doesn't include any boundary points, more formally i can put a ball around it of radius epsilon and find another point inside A.
But there was this example of X = (1,3] U (4, infinity), and A a subset of X where A = (1,3]
A is considered open in this set because no matter how small the ball i still find an element of A and no elements outside of that?
yes essentially
A is open in X equipped in the subspace topology
a set U ⊂ X is open in X iff it is equal to V ∩ X for some open V (in ℝ)
what do you mean by equipped in the subspace of topology
Do you know what the subspace topology is?
yeah thats the definition we were given
That's the definition of the subspace topology
no just started geometry last week
okay
Are the two definitions i desribed for openness, one thing or are there different types of openness
What is open depends on the topology of the ambient space, for instance your A is open when considered as a subset of X but not open as a subset of ℝ
so to be open isnt a general thing but rather requires to the know the space we work in
yes
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how to understand zeta function?
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Guys how to make my substitution method equations with reasoning 🥹
hi OP, for future helpers, do you have any example questions where you need to do this, and what you have tried? it's easier if you have them!
Idk how to do ts
It's like 50% of my grade
I have to like make my own equation thingy

Can u make it for me
Is
y = 2x + 3
Substitution
y = 2x + 3
x = y + 1
Elimination
2y - 3x = 3
Y + 3x = 1
Graphical
Then easy
try this 3x-2y=6 and x-4y=4
use intercept form and get x,y intercepts
and u can plot the graph from that easily
a>b and a<b that is an inequality
Is ts correct
just draw 4x-2y=10 first
Yes
I wrote all the equations
What's the reason explanation part
I found out thanks chat
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hi what
er this guys lowkey cheating
@amber furnace is this an ongoing exam youre taking?
looks like one given this
blud 😭
explain this then?
don't you have a triad to work on this with
Ye
I wasn't cheating yo
I was just checking if what me and my mates writing were correct
Y'all helped me so I don't rlly need this channel now
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ye this is right
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whats ur doubt
How to solve integral cos6x-sin5x/sin3x+cos4x
idk calc
What have you tried?
-# (also as a general tip for next time it's better to just post your question first, instead of starting with ?help)
I didnt get the question still. I dont have any Idea to solve it.
Hm. This one is a bit beyond me, I'm not even sure it has a closed-form solution
question tuff 😭
I think a common trick is to write the denominator as f and try to express the numerator as a linear combination of f and f'
how?
May or may not work for this particular question
Oh, nevermind, the coefficients are inside the sine and cosine
Ignore what I said then
Are you sure this has a closed form?
She is a helper bro
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Where did this integral arise? Are you looking to evaluate an antiderivative analytically or numerically?
I think you use sin = cos(pi/2 - theta)
To make it uniform on first hand
Do both on numerator and denominator to remove sin
i saw it in some book
i didnt get it
Wdym
For example sin3x = cos (pi/2 -3x)
And do the similar method to -sin5x on numerator
pk. lemme try this
But this is a complex problem, why would teachers give you this if you not master it yet
i dunno
but what u have told is making problem more lengthy
Then idk what else solve this
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,w integral of (cos(6x) - sin(5x))/(sin(3x)+cos(4x))

Wait use parentheses. Do you mean cos(6x) - (sin(5x)/sin(3x)) + cos(4x) or did you mean this integral
integral
Which function did you want to integrate
This
Or this
this
Good luck
tq
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Does this yield anything?
the sin above and below might cancel, idk
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I'm sorry, I'm not too into math, but my thesis project (a robot arm) has a Jacobian matrix used for correction of the arm after it's initial movement, and in our paper we have it as a 3x4 matrix (mapping 3d coordinates xyz to motor commands, 4 motors). All over the internet, I find that Jacobian matrices can be non-square, but one of the major concerns one of the teachers had during the final defense was that a Jacobian matrix can only be square. Apparently he majored in something focusing on it, whereas I am a student who basically got the formula from the internet and have a surface-level understanding of it, so I wasn't able to refute him. I basically just showed him a google search saying they can be not square but he wasn't taking it.
We got by with minor revisions but when we go back for his approval I absolutely know the same thing is gonna come back again, and I really don't know how to explain it to him. Does anyone know how to explain it so I can actually argue back?
A Jacobian matrix can be non square
in general, if you have a function from a space with dimension m, to a space with dimension n, then the derivative is the best linear approximation of the function at a point, and linear maps from dim m to dim n is just an n x m matrix
It is square precisely when your original function is between spaces of the same dimension
Maybe it has to do specifically with how we're using it? This is the specific equation we're using, but during the defense he basically paused our presentation to give a lesson on it (and im so sorry again it kind of flew over my head, I wish I took notes), saying that since we're inversing the matrix, the matrix ends up being square (?)
If you need the matrix to be invertible then it is necessarily square
however I see the pseudoinverse being mentioned and it makes sense for non-square matrices as well
its not like you are inverting J here
so who cares whether J is square
btw fwiw, you should generally rarely invert a matrix and instead solve a linear system instead
tho I suppose maybe for 3x3 it doesnt matter much
(computing A^-1 e is the same as solving Ax=e)
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hi, could anyone quickly walk me through how my teacher got her answers for the first 2?
also, please ping me when you respond
Integral of velocity is displacement , since ask from interval time from 0 to 5 so add domain in integral 0->5
The displacement is similar, but it doesnt have an absolute value since it only find the difference of final destination compare to your start point
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integral of velocity is displacement
integral of speed can give distance
can you walk me through it in a bit more detail i think i get it conceptually but im confused at how she got 13
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(Challenging) † For an irrational 𝑧 ∈ℝ \ℚ and 𝑥 > 1 define 𝑥^z sup{𝑥𝑟 : 𝑟 ≤𝑧,𝑟 ∈ℚ}, for 𝑥 =1
define 1^𝑧 =1, and for 0 < 𝑥 < 1 define 𝑥^𝑧 inf{𝑥^𝑟 : 𝑟 ≤𝑧,𝑟 ∈ℚ}.
what are the assertions of part b
I think you might benefit from showing the problem as an image, OP.
so what is there to prove?
okay
I already proved a and b
no
(d)
(challenging) ✝️
That one
So basically they extended the definition of x^z to irrationals as well. Do you understand their definition?
The definition of irrationals? Sure
no i mean their definition of x^z for irrational z
do you roughly understand what it does and why it works
No, maybe we could start by proving c first
let me try
I will ping u back
@brave wolf
Okay, that problem seemed to be unrelated with irrationals
but I proved it anyway
Damn that was quick
but yeah it is pretty much unrelated
I'll try to explain the defn of x^z for irrationals then
thank you
also, it told me not to use tools other than the supremum definition I was given
as you can see there
It is fine. c is the same stuff as the previous problems
the interesting one is d
So this is their definition. Take e.g. r = sqrt(2), then
{x^r : r <= z} contains e.g. x^1, x^1.4, x^1.41, x^1.414, x^(239/169)...
Taking supremum of that then results in x^sqrt(2). This definition ensures that x^sqrt(2) is close to x^(rational (lower) approximation of sqrt(2))
oh and important part of why this works is that if i take the sequence
x^1, x^1.4, x^1.41, x^1.414, ...
with increasing rational exponents, the sequence itself is increasing for x > 1
thats why sup can be used to "find" the limit - x^sqrt(2)
if x < 1, we have to use inf, because it'd be decreasing
isn't the supremum just x^z?
no not really
it's the set of all the x^r, not r themselves
if x was e.g. 2 and z was pi, the set would contain e.g.
{2^3, 2^3.1, 2^3.14, 2^3.141, 2^3.1415...
Yeah
so the least upper bound if this set wouldnt be just pi
it would be 2^pi
2^3 is in that set, that's 8. So obviously z = pi cant be the least upper bound
the least upper bound will surely be greater than 2^3, greater than 2^3.141, ...
okay
I have one last question
what guarantees {x^r : r < pi }to have elements like x^3, x^3.1
etc
all matching the decimals of pi respectively
perfectly
3.1 = 31/10, 31/10 is a rational number < pi, so if you take r = 31/10, the corresponding element of that set is x^r = 2^3.1
it contains loads of other stuff too
it contains
2^(-1/2) too
becuase -1/2 < pi
the notation A = {x^r : r < z, r in Q} can be read as
"The set A contains all elements of the form x^r, where r is a rational < z"
so in our particular case where x = 2, z=pi, it would contain e.g.
2^-1000, because -1000 is a rational < pi
2^2, because 2 is a rational < pi
2^3.14159, because 3.14159 is a rational < pi
2^(-1/2), because (-1/2) is a rational < pi
...
oh actually their defn uses <=, but it makes no difference, since no rational can equal to an irrational
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Holy geometry
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In a game of billiards, the white ball is first played against the cushion at an angle of α = 50°. It then simultaneously hits two balls (all three balls are of the same size and weight) that are touching each other, and whose connecting line is perpendicular to the direction of travel of the white ball.
Using the conservation of momentum and energy, show that the angle of incidence is equal to the angle of reflection at the radiation band and that the magnitude of the momentum does not change. What momentum and energy does the band absorb?
Any ideas?
isn't this more physics problem?
