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it's more standard to call it j afaik
1, j, j²
i have never seen that notation
where did you see omega?
maybe it's more common in higher math
every place i've seen the cube root of unity it's always been omega lol
omega is used for the root of unity of a random power
almost everywhere
for cube we often use j
interesting
at least in my experience
maybe it's an industry thing
we hate physicists
good
what about CS majors?
if we have something like $U={(x,x)\in \mathbb{R}^2}\cup {(x,2x)\in \mathbb{R}^2}$
it's the two lines x=y and 2x=y
the intersection is just {(0,0)}, are you sure about that?
whoops
kheerii
go on
if (x,y) lies in U then (-x,-y) lies in U
because either y=2x or y=x, and in both cases we can find (-x,-y) to satisfy the same equation
but (1,1)+(1,2) = (2,3) is not in this set
so?
so it's not a subspace
it's not closed under addition
what feels lacking?
scalar multiplication
it does look lacking
if we just take the integers
yes
this is called a subgroup
a group is a nonempty set with some operation called addition that must be associative, and have additive inverses
Must have an additive identity (i.e. 0)
no multiplication operation
oh so it's just a vector space without scalar multiplication
pretty much
but without commutativity either
those are specifically called abelian groups
the ones which are commutative or the ones which aren't?
(after Niels Henrik Abel)
abelian is a fancy word for groups to mean commutative
see any intro abstract algebra ressource for further information
yeah he did a few things in analysis
where is it?
because groups are the most elementary structure in abstract algebra
I'm not going to recommend you an AA book myself
oh wait I read "see my intro abstract algebra course"
yeah no I'm not a prof
And even if I were, I def wouldn't be teaching AA
not my thing
gotcha
maybe if I took the time, but atm I'm much more interesting in studying analysis and proba/stats
as far as math is concerned
for me it'd be either stochastic processes/martingale theory, or more specifically markovian decision processes
a generalization of Markov chains
if you see a grad class in proba theory or stochastic processes, it probably covers it
(martingales, not MDPs)
MDPs lean a lot more into CS
that's a long way away for now, I'm in high school right now
i'm just studying linalg for fun right now
well you're doing good
there's no such thing as knowing too much linalg anyway
not in math nor in CS
thank you!
i do have a bad habit of rushing things but i think i'm going at a decent pace right now
yep
so essentially I need a subset which is closed under scalar multiplication but not under addition
||short term memory||
oh yeah huh it does
this does not though
any two lines should work yeah
okay
it isn't
because sin(x)+frac(x) is not periodic
this classic always comes up every now and then
this is actually surprisingly hard to prove
so I have heard
but I couldn't think of a better example
so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I looked it up in the past, finding a provable exemple is not exactly simple
i have also looked up a variant of this kind of thing before
i dont remember what they did tho
oh yeah I saw this exact post before
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I think this is impossible
I would deeply appreciate a step by step way, this is so hard, how am I supposed to take the biggest exponent
There’s like so many things inside a single question
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Could start by multiplying top and bottom by the radical conjugate
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Anybody can answer my question ? Why in each equivalence, we indicate x' and y' are prime among them ?
write it in one time, isn't enough ?
Ok thanks
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can some one please help with this
$
Find all the integer pairs (m, n) such that:
[
m^3 + n^3 + 99mn = 33^3
]
\textbf{Solution:}
Starting with the given equation:
[
m^3 + n^3 + 99mn = 33^3
]
Rewriting:
[
m^3 + n^3 = 33^3 - 99mn
]
Using the sum of cubes factorization:
[
m^3 + n^3 = (m+n)(m^2 - mn + n^2)
]
Substituting, we have:
[
(m+n)(m^2 + n^2 - mn) = 33^3 - 99mn
]
Simplifying further:
[
(m+n)(m^2 + n^2 - mn) = 99(363 - mn)
]
Assuming (m+n = 99), we use the identity (m^2 + n^2 = (m+n)^2 - 2mn). Then:
[
m^2 + n^2 = 99^2 - 2mn = 9801 - 2mn
]
Plugging this back, we get:
[
99(9801 - 2mn - mn) = 99(363 - mn)
]
From here, we attempt to solve for (m) and (n). Testing (m+n = 99) and (m^2 + n^2 = 363), we find:
[
mn = 4719
]
The quadratic equation for (m) and (n) becomes:
[
x^2 - 99x + 4719 = 0
]
However, solving this equation does not yield integer solutions, suggesting an error in the assumptions or steps. It is unclear where the mistake lies.
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in part a i got 3/2 as the answer, what does part b mean when it asks for the constant term?
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can we talk about horizontal stretching and condensing of logarithmic functions or do i need to provide a specific example?
Ik what you mean without an example if that's what you're asking
my problem is actually very broad, so i'm going to try a tutoring site
thank you!
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Bwahhh
Are you sure your factorisation on the LHS bottom fraction is correct?
Actually
Itsss uhm
4x^2+5x+1
nvm
What are you trying to do?
Simplify it :p
Right okay
I think (5x-4)/((4x+1)(x+1)) is reasonably the most simplified form
whats the original problem
which one are you trying to do?
you can find all of that information from the simplified form given.
Do I still gotta simplify the denominator on the 1st one?
The 4x^2+5x+1
It has done that for you
they're the same. the factored denominator is given on the right
sure
you can just look at that one, you don't have to. but you can.
ok, then just look at that one 🤷
They are the exact same thing
It's the same as saying 5(x+2) = 5x+10 all you have done is rearranged the term
If you solve it or simplify it correctly you would just get 0 = 0
if you factor the left side, you get the right side. They're the same. The problem has given you the simplified form to make the problem easier for you to answer all those questions.
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hey i need help
post ur question
pk
ok
A circular park of radius 20metres is situated in a colony. three boys adam,sam and david are siting at equal distance on its boundary each having a toy telephone in his hands to talk with each other. Find the length of the string of each telephone
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Okay so
can you draw this for us?
i unserstand it, I just want to make sure you understand this as well
yeah
okay it's fine i don't actually need you to draw it i just want to make sure you did
so you understand how we essentially have an equal triangle
inside of this circle
where each boy sits at each vertice of the triangle
ok
what is the angle of an equilateral triangle?
60
yes
okay now
how would you solve this?
i want to know how much geometry you know
have you worked with radians...?
RADIUS
no
i know the basics
okay
well
you could break it down into two right angled triangles
let me pull up geogebra it'll look nicer that way
ok
yes
you can use 30-60-90 triangle here
30
well they're already hinting at it above
good
perfect
now, the problem is, we can;t use trigonometry right now
because we have no 90 degree angles
ok
however looking at what was sent above, can you think of a way we could use trigonometry?
maybe draw something that'll give us a right angle
by constructing OE perpendicular to BC
oh radius 20
that's fine
OC = 20
good catch
anyways now we've got all we need
we just need to find BE
and then multiply that times 2
does that make sense?
yes
BO AND CO
can u tell me what it is
it's just a nice way of summarizing the following:
ok
you've looked at this?
yes
perfect
so, knowing the angle 30
we want to find its adjacent angle
so we'd use "CAH"
which tells us Cos(30) = Adjacent/Hypotenuse
What's the hypotenuse?
then you can do Cos(30) * Hypotenuse = Adjacent
and remember whe want the sum of two adjacents
so
2 * Cos(30) * Hypotenuse = 2 Adjacent
which is your answer
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b) find all vectors v = (x,y,z) in S such that x+z=0
so we take the linear combination of S
which leaves us with:
$(\alpha + \beta + \gamma, 2 \alpha - \beta - 7 \gamma, \alpha + 2 \beta + 4 \gamma)$
ransik (gmdn)
3\beta ?
yep
ransik (gmdn)
anyways
not sure where to go from here
i could solve for one of the variables but
this defines a plane in (\alpha,\beta,\gamma) coordinates, so its generated by two vectors
yes
and these should give the coordinates of two vectors in S
ransik (gmdn)
$\alpha = - \tfrac{3}{2} \beta - \tfrac{5}{2} \gamma$
ransik (gmdn)
for this kinda stuff you can like, first assume \gamma=0 and get some vector (\alpha,\beta,0)
then assume \beta=0 and get (\alpha',0,\gamma')
and then show that these are linearly independent, and thus a basis for the subspace of solutions
right these two vectors in the right hand side happen to be these basis vectors yes
so then i apply each of these to the basis of the subspace?
the coordinates of these vectors are coordinates in S remember
i don't think i'm following sorry
so e.g. $(\alpha,\beta,\gamma)=(-\frac 32, 1, 0)$ being a solution means that [\alpha(1,2,1)+\beta(1,-1,2)+\gamma(1,-7,4)] is a multiple of $(1,0,-1)$, i.e. the generator of the subspace ${(x,y,z): \ x+z=0}$
derivada.schwarziana
okay
or equivalently that [(x,y,z)=\alpha(1,2,1)+\beta(1,-1,2)+\gamma(1,-7,4)]satisfies $x+z=0$
derivada.schwarziana
shouldn't it be (1,0,1)?
(x,y,z)=(1,0,1) doesn't satisfy x+z=0
doesn't (1,0,-1) satisfy x-z=0?
ohh
wait
im an idiot
it satisfies z = -x
which satisifes z + x = 0
or x + z = 0
yup
two linearly independent solutions
there's infinite solutions, but they form a subspace of dimension 2
okay
i don't know why i'm having such a hard time understanding this. this is usually my strong part in linear algebra.
the vectors i've found
correspond to (alpha,beta,gamma)
and alpha beta gamma are the coefficients by which we multiply the basis of S to generate S
yes exactly
in other words they're coordinates in the basis S
and multiply it by these vectors
i'd end up with a subspace of dimension two
so
a plane
yes
ok
idk if this helps but these coefficients $\alpha,\beta,\gamma$ can also be obtained by solving [
\begin{pmatrix}1&1&1 \ 2&-1&-7 \ 1&2&4\end{pmatrix}\begin{pmatrix}\alpha \ \beta \ \gamma\end{pmatrix}=\begin{pmatrix}1 \ 0 \ -1\end{pmatrix}
]
derivada.schwarziana
so the solution then are all the vectors in S generated by the two vectors found
by noting, as in here that (1,0,-1) generates the space {x+z=0}
okay that could be useful
but I usually have an easier time just operating through equations
but yeah i can see that
okay so my answer then would be all the vectors v in S spanned by the two vectors provided
yes, the ones you get by replacing \alpha, \beta, \gamma here basically
ok
so i have to do that
then i can come up with a solution
a "proper" solution if you will
yeah, but basically that's the idea
like, if one of the solutions you got is $\alpha=-3/2$, $\beta=1$ you get that [(x,y,z)=-\frac 32 (1,2,1) + 1(1,-1,2)] and any multiple of it verifies $x+z=0$
derivada.schwarziana
so that's one of the generators of the space of solutions
yep
(and \gamma=0 ofc)
i'm solving that right now
yeah
wait a darn
they're LD
so it's unidimensional?
sorry for the ping i just wanna make sure
it's not a plane is it
it's dim 1
a line
hmm
yeah looks like it
this is the solution from another student
and chatgpt seems to agree as well
interesting
also their approach looks
far more elegant than mine
i could have just used a simoultaneous equation lol
oh well
that's it then
thanks!
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np
I think the vectors inside the span were LD to begin, in fact S is two dimensional. The intersection of two planes can be a line
so it makes sense
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i have no idea why this is true
i can give the context of the problem if needed.
this is what gpt gave me and other than that i think i understand the equation
it has to do with like reference frames and stuff so idrk
hello? @austere cypress ?
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Ok
this is for part a. basically just asking for the derivative and second derivative, but later in part b i need my stuff expressed in terms of theta so i can pliug that in but i don't know the polar link stuff
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$\hat{e}r(t)=\cos \theta(t)\hat{I}+\sin\theta(t)\hat{J}$ and $\hat{e}{\theta}(t)=-\sin\theta(t)\hat{I}+\cos\theta(t)\hat{J}$. So $$\frac{\dd}{\dd t}\left[\hat{e}r(t)\right]=\frac{\dd}{\dd t}\left[\cos \theta(t)\hat{I}+\sin\theta(t)\hat{J}\right]=-\dot{\theta}(t)\sin\theta(t)\hat{I}+\dot{\theta}(t)\cos\theta(t)\hat{J}=\dot{\theta}(t)\hat{e}{\theta}(t)$$
SWR
@supple skiff
yeah im readin it
so like
how do yk that the ehat theta = -sintheta(t)I + Costheta(t) J
is this just like a polar conversion fact or something
Rotation matrices
you need some linear algebra knowledge

i might be back if this gets tricky again im on the last problem but
actually
since youve read it all
for part d
can you help me understand that bc i don't entirely understand this reference frame stuff
my extend of knowledge on like matrices and reference frame conversions is extrodinarily limited
i can find the rest of this stuff through like online notes and such but i don't get how these are different
You're just using $\hat{e}r(t)=\cos \theta(t)\hat{I}+\sin\theta(t)\hat{J}$ and $\hat{e}{\theta}(t)=-\sin\theta(t)\hat{I}+\cos\theta(t)\hat{J}$ again
SWR
so if i were to graph the two resulting vectors even after i convert it to polar it would have the same vector value?
alright
for part e which acceleration vector do i use or does it matter since they are both the same
or is a different one entirelyt becuase its on the bead or something
actually thats a stupid question if they are oth the same vector
okay last question and then ill let you go my math king
do you know any resources i can find about how to convert to i j reference frames
ive done it like twice and both times ive done it wrong
or like how do i do it in general
You just need some basic study in rotation matrices
should i just search it up on like khan academy?
the function i gotta rotate isn't hard
is what i would say if i knew what i was doing but comparitively ig it looks slight
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In P2 consider the subspace S
b) Find a base B' of P2 which contains the basis B found in item (a)
hold on a sec
green is the basis i found for a)
and now i'm supposing i need a basis B' which contains an additional vector v3 which is LI to the other two vectors
but i'm not sure how i'd solve this
i suppose just set each vector multiplied by a scalar
expand and solve?
so something like this? maybe?
i suppose an obvious choice for v3 is x^2
or just 1
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Do elements of a set have to be of the same type, or can they be of different types? {1, (2 , 3), {4, 5, 6}}
thats a valid set
sets are just a bag
you can put many things in a bag
you can even put in other bags
Ok, so it is possible to mix different mathematical object types in a set. Thank you.
you can have nothing in a set even
which doesn’t mean the set doesn’t exist
it just means the set contains the set nothing
I'm not asking about cardinality. I'm asking about types
i believe that’s the way it works
yeah you can have different types of objects in a set
thank you
I was just double checking, because I'm reading a book on linear algebra that I regard highly, but the author made a small mistake.
I also knew that had to be the same type, actually
But maybe it's allowed in certain contexts (?)
well its just generally not that useful to have different types in a set
it basically never occurs
Should vs could
you generally define sets by taking the set of all elements which specify some condition
and usually then the elements have to be of the same type anyway if they are supposed to satisfy the same condition
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have you tried u sub
Has to be u sub right?
yeah I'll get that fraction
but then multiplied by 2 root 5-x^2 du
oh shit yeah
i can just sub in u
You dont even need u sub tbh you can see that -(5-x^2)^1/2 just solves it
if Im not being braindead
oh yeah that looks like it works
remember this rule
wait lemme get a pic for it
🤦♂️
(I think it’s -[that], but the overall point still stands, can be done by inspection
)
you can use reverse chain rule
yeah thx
Oh wait nvm, the line breaking made that look strange 
I've gone over that it j keeps slipping out my brain
idk when i try u sub
it doesnt look like it works
idk if u can read that XD
oh shit i got my shadow on it too
Lets try decipher that
it happens to the best of us 
I feel bad for your teachers
hahahahaha
did you get the right answer with u sub
if not can you just redo with legible handwriting so i can tell you where you went wrong
this parts right isnt it?
If I make u = to the denominator
forgot du at the end
Im sorry but bro I cant not understand a thing
Ill just walk you through the steps
OMG I thought u was equal to square root 5-x^2
AHHHH
that makes so much more sense
thanks
lol
try that now
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ME
you
nope
do you mean $5 = a\cdot2^2 + 3$
Yes its 0.5
5=4a+3, 4a=2, a=2/4=0.5
HUH
put it in this thing
George (Wumpus Man)
yes
what part do you not get
WAIT CUS
it’s
a times 4 + 3
can’t i do then
a times 7
and then 5 divided by 7
its 4a+3, not 4a+3a
okay 4a + 3 and then what u do minus 3 and then divided by 4
right
yes

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if a and b = 0, then a=b
placing the row vectors as columnsin a matrix and compute det != 0 is possible?
did you tried that ?
if they are linearly dependant then
$\exists s_1, s_2, s_3 s.t. $\
$s_1(a,b,b) + s_2 (b,a,b) + s_3(b,b,a) = 0$
artemetra
you were talking about determinant tho
from here you get an augmented matrix and you solve and find for which values a,b there are non zero solutions for s_1, s_2 and s_3
fair enough
maybe if you can assume that $a=\lambda b$ and substitute and solve for $\lambda$
artemetra
but otherwise no clue tbh
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if you first notice that a=b is a solution you can try polynomial long division too
this is how it factors btw
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In this video we'll learn how to do long division of multivariable polynomials. It's just like long division of single-variable polynomials except that we have to leave room for the terms that aren't included in our dividend.
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first time seeing this myself too lol
but it works
interesting never thought of this before
now that i see it, it is seems like a common sense extension of normal polynomial division
i wonder if there a quick way to do this like synthetic division
perhaps that works the same way too
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notice that a=b works again for the second polynomial
How on earth did you see that so quickly
yep
idk lol
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wich of the 2 formulas i have to apply here?
and what happens to -1
brutha what the fuck is this
on the left
CherryMan
its the one
my phone is dead
is it the limit as n goes to infinity or 0
it just says calculate the limit of sequnce
infinity
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$\lim_{n \to \infty} \left(1 - \frac{1}{n^2 + n + 2}\right)^{n^2 + 1} = \lim_{n \to \infty} \left[\left(1 - \frac{1}{n^2 + n + 2}\right)^{-(n^2 + n + 2)}\right]^{\frac{(n^2 + 1)}{-(n^2 + n + 2)}}$
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Now, it'd be
$e^\lim{n \to \infty} \frac{n^2(1+\frac{1}{n^2})}{-n^2(1+\frac{1}{n}+\frac{2}{n^2})}$
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its e^-1?
the result
Yeah, I got 1/e
np
You should check your answer with the book as well.
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sin^2x is symmetric around x = pi/2
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Do you really need to know that those are equal?
Why ≠ How
What's the original problem?
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What statistical test should I use for the following:
The propability Y that the predictions are correct is the same across the binary group X
P(Y|X1) =µ1
P(Y|X2) =µ2
H0: µ1=µ2
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depends
on what
Are you familiar with the two proportion z test
yes, that's what I was thinking about
but I was wondering if there was another oen
nah thats your best choice if Y is binary and want to directly compare the two probabilities
all goods
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verstehst du (1)? Oder ist der aufbau der matrix unklar?
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How do I like combine functions?
Like if I have
y = f(x) and y = -f(x)
how do I make it so I have just one term without changing any proporties of these functions?
define what you mean by "combine"
having like an easy example of two half circles y = sqrt(r^2 - x^2) and y = -sqrt(r^2 - x^2) to have them combined would mean to just have y^2 = r^2 - x^2
these two functions y = sqrt(r^2 - x^2) and y = -sqrt(r^2 - x^2) just combined into y^2 = r^2 - x^2, and still have the same proporties, just they're now combined
aha i see
problem is though that y^2 = r^2 - x^2 isn't an expression anymore
but that is still okay
the key here is multiplication
you want to rewrite y=f(x) as y-f(x) = 0 and y=g(x) as y-g(x) = 0
then the combined graph would be (y-f(x))(y-g(x)) = 0
I think it would be easier if I say exactly what I'm doing
so in your case you would do (y-f(x))(y+f(x))=0 which is the same thing as y^2 - (f(x))^2 = 0
what the fuck
it's this
and if I square it on both sides, the equation doesn't hold the change of variable k
it only works if they're separated
wdym
it does precisely the same thing as the two things separately
i'm playing around with it rn
what is your goal?
The longest function I have ever seen
what graph are you expecting to get?
wait
I'm gonna send fixed one
now
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how to handle that different radius?
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Can somone help me with algebra geometry
im revising for exam
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what is your question
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when you have fractions, multiply both sides by common denominator
he means like for the first quesiton multiply the leftmost fraction by 3/3 and the rightmost by 2/2 so that you can "merge" them (now same denominator)
then calculate from there
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do I have to divide 441 on both sides
but then what would that result in
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what series tests do i use for these problems to determine if they converge/diverge?
- As $n \to \infty$, what is the summand "approximately" equal to? What test allows you to use this approximation? \ \
- Recall that $\frac{a^c}{b^c}=\left(\frac{a}{b} \right)^c$
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5 should be easier try that one first
As n goes to infinity
It’ll be either -1 or 1
For numerator
And the denominator will get bigger and bigger
Meaning that it’s oscillating with waves getting smaller and smaller each time
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What does it mean by "the scale drawing of the space shuttle is shown opposite."?
Am I supposed to do this with physical textbook to solve rest of the problems?
i dont see any other information given here
exactly
so you'd have to measure yeah
interesting problem though i've never had to do this
I am currently doing standard math 2
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guys how do i do this
draw a picture
find the radius
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hi
how to do 7b plz
Plug in that point into your answer from Part A, then use the point-slope formula to get your tangent line.
working on it rn ill lyk how it goes
k i got this for y prime
now idk how to do next step
That looks good. Now plug in 1/8 for x and (3 sqrt 3)/8 for y in order to get your slope.
ok thas the problem
idk how to solve for b
wait ill write it
and send where im stuck
are u able to go therough the steps with me?
this isnt even hw just review for a test and I have been stuck for like an hour
@lean otter
Show where you are stuck
All you have to do is plug in your point into your y' formula
Then use y - y1 = m (x - x1) and you're done
What did you get for m?
m is y prime
Yes, what numerical value did you get for m?
o shoot i forgot to substitue all x and y values
one sec
ok ill send the pic
this is where i am at currently
Ok, that's fine. When you simply that m value in a calculator, it actually comes out to -√3
Now you're left with (3√3) / 8 = (-√3)(1/8) + b
And you can simply solve that for b.
how do u simplify that m value to that
wait i simplified a bit more i will send again
one moment
is this good so far @lean otter
Like this
Yes. In the end, it simplifies down to -sqrt 3
my last line is valid?
Yes
photomath is saying it would simplify to like root 3 over 4
its saying the b value would be root 3 over 2 i believe
so that means my equation is wrong somewhere
I'm saying the final m value is -√3.
After you solve all of that for b, you should get √3 / 2 as the b value
Yes, thats all correct.
But 3√3 raised to the 1/3 power is equal to √3
So you should then have 3√3 / 8 = (-√3 / 8 ) + b
So you get b = 4 √3 / 8, which simplifies to √3 / 2.
3 * √3 = (3^1) * (3^(1/2))
= 3^(3/2)
The cube root of 3^(3/2) is 3^(1/2), which is the same as √3
It seems like most of the difficulty of this problem is just wrangling radicals and fractions, rather than the actual calculus itself
Are you good up to this point ?
good upto this point atm
ok now i understand this pic
got it
so far
do we eventually get here?
wait what should i get for b
o ok
i got it
just the b value
now I have to get equation
Yes. But but to make it easier on yourself, just write 3^(3/2) as 3√3 and 3^(1/2) as √3.
Yes. But that top part simplifies to -√3.
Your final equation is (3√3)/8 = (-√3)/8 + b
no i gtta get this:
so if i times everything by 8 i dont get it
i think something is off
Multiply everything by 2, then move everything to the left side, and you should arrive at that solution.
ohhh
wow very much appreciated
i thought this question would be way easier cause never had smth where we had to manipulate radicals and stff.
is this the easiest way to do this?
It's easier if you're allowed to use a calculator
Unfortunately the problem just had some obnoxious numbers and that just made the arithmetic trickier than necessary
ok ya im surprised my teacher assigned this
i have one more question
if u dont mind
its the last one
in this worksheet that I confused on
if u dont mind
Sure, whats the question ?
It might be easier to think about if you rewrite it as xy^3 + x^2 y = 3 and you have the point (2, 1)
Solve for y', and then plug in (2, 1)
point 1,2?
Sorry (2, 1)
how do u know we have this point
The problem says that f(2) = 1.
2 is the input, the x-value.
And 1 is the output, the y-value
wait how do u recognize that implict differentiation is in this question
f(x) and y are sometimes used interchangeably.
And honestly not sure how else you'd solve it besides implicit differentiation
And honestly not sure how else you'd solve it besides implicit differentiation. o rlly?
ok
ok
ill lyk how it goes
when do we consider x to be its own function
is it like if it has an exponent
or is x its own function in this equatino
because technically a number is a functino and so i would use product rile
rule
You're finding dy/dx, so you have to treat x like a function. So yes, use the product rule here.
my teacher said something about how x is a variable and y is the function in implicit diferentiation
trying to understand y he said this
Ok yeah I misspoke x is a variable, and y is a function of x. That's why you also multiply by y' whenever you differentiate y with the power rule or whatever
Just use implicit differentiation like normal
but if u use the product rule that means x is a function
when would x be consider a finction
if x is exponent that would be a function right?
isnt any number considered a function also?
since it passes vertical line test
Yeah
so then i should always treat y as a function and x even in implicit differentiation?
Yes. Differentiating xy^3 for example is (1)(y^3) + (x)(3y^2)(y')
okay but in my notes it is not like this
