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slate quail
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So the limit does not exist?

rain bear
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what do you think about part e

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i want to hear what you are thinking (or read for that matter : P)

slate quail
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False, because of that

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X approaching from both sides

rain bear
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but do you need the point when you are searching for the limit?

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let me ask you this then

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lets say we have f(x) = 1/x

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very simple

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what is the limit when x -> inf

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will you say that limit also doesnt exist since there is no inf point?

slate quail
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No, I’d call it infin

rain bear
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the point itself is of no concern in limits, what you need is continuous convergence

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both sides of the point 0 are going to 0

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in a continuous matter

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and thus limit exists

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and is 0

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limit is as of dictionary definition

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its the limit, not the value

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do you understand? i can explain in another way if you want

slate quail
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Somewhat

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I figured it was zero if it did exist, I must have made up a rule in my head regarding the open circle being indefinite = not existing

rain bear
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just before and after the point suffice

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cuz the way of seeing if a limit exist is to see if
$lim_{x\Rightarrow n^-}f(x) ?= lim_{x\Rightarrow n^+}f(x)$

slate quail
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Ok so I am reading f as lim > 0 = f(x) = 0

G says the same, except f(x) = 1

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I see a solid point above 0 at y=1 which in my head means > definite > G Is true

flat frigateBOT
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Rootsyl

rain bear
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you go to the point from right and find the limit

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then go from left and find the limit

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if the limits are the same

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and not divergent

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the limit exists

slate quail
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AHHH ok, I remember that rule.

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G is untrue

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There are two points

slate quail
rain bear
slate quail
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Next I am reading h

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I see from the left, open circle at 1 the line confused me a bit but we only read the y values ig

rain bear
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see if they equal

slate quail
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Approaching 1 I see it as an endpoint

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Are you also counting the line along y=0 1-2 as the right side?

rain bear
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left and right do not converge to the same point

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thus that limit is invalid

slate quail
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Ok in that case I see 1 and 0

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The real limit is DNE?

slate quail
rain bear
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you dont even need to look for divergence

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oh you asking for general function?

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like all of it

slate quail
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No I’m asking if it was a question, would that be DNE?

slate quail
rain bear
slate quail
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H

rain bear
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yea the limit is dne

slate quail
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I see i as true? There is a definite point at 0…I also see a open point at 1 but I’m choosing to define it with 1

rain bear
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lim x goes to 1?

slate quail
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On I now yes

rain bear
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that limit also dne

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cuz its literally the same with h

slate quail
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What if there are two definite points, like for k?

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Is the lim still one? @rain bear

rain bear
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k is true since there is no f(x) in that region

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there cannot be a limit if the function do not contain the points region

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if it was -1^+ you could say its converging to that point

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points region = infinitely small area around the point

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which is used to determine the limit for a point

slate quail
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Because for 1+, you can lead up from the right side

rain bear
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i might be using the wrong term to define point region

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i think there was another name for it

slate quail
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And that’s where the point 1 I came up with comes from

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But there’s no points that can be made from the -1-, since x is only approaching it

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Not on it

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@rain bear am I understanding correctly…?

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I am also ready to move on to the next set of questions

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(I can reopen for someone else. If you might not have time)

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golden bluff
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Hello, im not sure how to approach this

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golden bluff
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calculate the determinant of:

icy lance
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try doing some row operations, you could probably make the matrix look a lot simpler

frank horizon
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consider factoring out n in the last row

golden bluff
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wdym

frank horizon
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you're trying to calculate the determinant of A, it will be n times A with the last row divided by n

golden bluff
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ohhh right

frank horizon
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then you could try subtracting the last row from each of the other rows n times

golden bluff
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wait could i just factor out n from all of the rows below 1?

frank horizon
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how would that help

golden bluff
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everything below the diagonal would be 0

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oh nevermind brainfart

frank horizon
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you can first cancel everything out besides the diagonal and the last row

golden bluff
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right but then i cant calculate it based on the last row

frank horizon
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and then cancel out the last row minus the last entry

golden bluff
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i dont konw if n is even or odd

frank horizon
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if A is almost diagonal with just the last row, then i can subtract each of the rows times a constant from the last row to cancel out the last row, except for the last entry

golden bluff
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right

frank horizon
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so the resulting matrix is diagonal

golden bluff
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oh wait

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can i subtract that last row from all of the other rows?

frank horizon
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in the beginning?

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yes

golden bluff
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yeah

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then everything above the diagonal would be 0

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or am i missing something

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then the determinant would be the product of the diagonal

frank horizon
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yeah

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forgot that you didn't need to cancel out the other entries

golden bluff
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yeah

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thanks for the help

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mighty mango
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So two questions, if x=y does that mean log(x)=log(y) (respecting all the stuff abt logs yk how they cant be negative and smth cant be zero )

mighty mango
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And if log(x)=log(y)

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What does that have to say abt x and y

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Do we conclude another releationship?

left gyro
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are x and y real numbers

mighty mango
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Yes

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Absolutly

left gyro
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log(x) by itself will say that x > 0

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so log(x) = log(y) also says that x and y are positive

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you can e^ both sides to see that x = y

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so log(x) = log(y) => x = y > 0

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similarly you can log both sides by only if theyre positive to begin with

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x = y > 0 => log(x) = log(y)

mighty mango
median vigil
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log(x) = log(y) implies x = y because log is a one-to-one/injective function

mighty mango
median vigil
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an injective (aka one-to-one) function is a function that has an inverse (every output is produced by only one input)

mighty mango
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Kk!

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(Trying to remember a question i wanted to ask)

median vigil
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mighty mango
left gyro
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e^

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not ^e

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e^x

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doing e^ to 2 means e^2

median vigil
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e^x is the inverse function for the natural logarithm (base e), also notated as ln(x)

mighty mango
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So log(x) base b

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Is like b^(smth)=x

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So- what does the inverse function do to this

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How do you apply it

median vigil
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if you apply one function to a number, and then apply the inverse function to the output, then you get back the original number

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you can do this on both sides of an equation, for example

mighty mango
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Are you thinking of an example or are you waiting for me to respond 🙃

mighty mango
median vigil
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let's say that we know
[ 3^x = 81]
we can solve for x by applying the function $\log_3(x)$ to both sides:
[\log_3(3^x) = x = \log_3(81) = 4]
similarly we can solve the equation
[\log_2(x) = 6]
by applying the inverse function $2^x$ on both sides:
[2^{\log_2(x)} = x = 2^6 = 64 ]

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mighty mango
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I mean yes its an inverse function

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But im asking abt the algebra

median vigil
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in general if $f^{-1}(x)$ is the inverse function of $f(x)$ then [ f(f^{-1}(x)) = f^{-1}(f(x)) = x ]

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rugged cargo
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Can i write it like this

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What?@rugged marsh

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rugged cargo
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<@&286206848099549185>

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I guess i am right

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Cofficent will be0

gritty pond
rugged cargo
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But power of x will be 1?@gritty pond

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Scaler multiplication to matrices

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lilac osprey
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i have a question with interpreting my solution to an old question

lilac osprey
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i took calc 2 a few months ago then dropped it so im a bit unsure what i did for this telescoping series

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im not sure how i got from the 4th last line to the 3rd last line

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can anyone explain

drowsy moss
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looks like you added and subtracted 1/n term by term and then split the series.... which is hella sus imo

lilac osprey
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yeah i agree its sus i had no idea what i did

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i have the same question for a new assignment ill try again

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kindred fjord
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How do I do #3?

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obsidian oracle
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well quadratic formula

real canyon
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just solve it normally using formula

main mural
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same way you did the others?..

kindred fjord
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ik but when I try to do it I keep getting the square root of a negative number so im not sure if im doing it correct

lone hornet
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negative determinant init?

kindred fjord
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I get no solution

lone hornet
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no solution is correct then

real canyon
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then show answer in terms of i

kindred fjord
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idk if i can use imaginary numbers

real canyon
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I mean its your only option

kindred fjord
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true

obsidian oracle
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you can just say "no real solutions"

lone hornet
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you can also say no solution in reals

kindred fjord
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yea ill prob do both show solution with imaginary numbers and say no solution in reals

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thanks guys

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hushed onyx
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i need help 😦

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hushed onyx
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yea but lemme show smt

lean otter
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ahh i did that intuitively lol

hushed onyx
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For the second equation is this correct 😅

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Is doing it these ways the same or wrong ☠️

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wet pike
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2x= 10 - 3y
x = (10-3y)/2
now substitute this in 2nd equation

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and you should get your answer

hushed onyx
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yes yes i was able to get the ans

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but im not sure if the way im doing the fractions is corret :/

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is the way im deriving right?

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rustic cloud
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what did i do wrong here

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finite igloo
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wait

flat frigateBOT
finite igloo
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You are

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integrating with respect to u, no?

rustic cloud
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Yeah

finite igloo
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but the functions inside

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are of x

flat frigateBOT
finite igloo
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use this sub instead

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but if u insist on using u = cos3x, then

rustic cloud
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well it seems like u=3x is the correct way based on calculators, but i'm trying to figure out where i went wrong because it looks like i got to some answer

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wanna know where i messed up

finite igloo
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u integrate with function of x with respect to u

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we should transform everything into u before integrating with respect to u

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finite igloo
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forgot the 1/3

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wait

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rustic cloud
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Well that sounds nightmarish

flat frigateBOT
finite igloo
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${-\frac{2}{3}\sin(3x) + \frac{\sin^3(3x)}{9} + C}$

flat frigateBOT
finite igloo
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interesting...

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i did something wrong

rustic cloud
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alright well yeah i guess cos3x is not u LMFOA

finite igloo
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i messed this up

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i mean

rustic cloud
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can i maybe do int (cos3x)(cos3x)dx and then ibp?

finite igloo
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the thing works

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ibp?

rustic cloud
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integration by parts

finite igloo
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hmm

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would take lots of turn

finite igloo
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nvm

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this approach works

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but is very complicated

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so lets do ibp

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wait

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but

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to answer ur initial question

finite igloo
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that's where it went wrong

finite igloo
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that's wh

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y

rustic cloud
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am trying to ibp rn

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its long

finite igloo
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${|\sin3x| \neq \sin3x}$

flat frigateBOT
finite igloo
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@rustic cloud tbh, i dont think ibp will work

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the functions are periodic

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uv

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nvm

rustic cloud
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yeah this problem is ghoulish

finite igloo
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wait

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it does

rustic cloud
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i got to here, i'm sure i got something wrong on the way

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but i don't know where

finite igloo
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no like

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after the sub

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u use trig identity

flat frigateBOT
finite igloo
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butttt

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let's let idp

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cuz hell yeah

rustic cloud
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if it makes any sense i'm trying to do the brute force methods to make sure my fundamentals work, so incase i don't know a particular identity i can still make it to the correct answer

finite igloo
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${\int \cos(x)\cos(x) dx = \cos(x)\sin(x) + \int \sin(x)\sin(x)dx}$

flat frigateBOT
finite igloo
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${\cos(x)\sin(x) + \int \sin(x)\sin(x)dx = \cos(x)\sin(x) + x - \int \cos^2 (x) dx}$

flat frigateBOT
finite igloo
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${\int \cos(x)\cos(x) dx= \cos(x)\sin(x) + x - \int \cos^2 (x) dx}$

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finite igloo
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${\int \cos(x)\cos(x) dx= \frac{1}{2}\cos(x)\sin(x) + \frac{1}{2}x + C}$

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${\text{Actutal integral }=\frac{1}{3}\cdot I }$

flat frigateBOT
finite igloo
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${\therefore \int \cos^2 (3x) dx =\frac{1}{6}\cos(3x)\sin(3x) + \frac{1}{2}x + C}$

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finite igloo
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@rustic cloud

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it worksx

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LMAO

rustic cloud
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cos(x)sin(x) + x

flat frigateBOT
finite igloo
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this is a nice way

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to approach this problem tho

rustic cloud
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is doing ibp on sinxsinxdx bad then?

finite igloo
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Don’t think so

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We’ll have to try

rustic cloud
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yo brah this is my math struggle channel

finite igloo
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@rustic cloud it will

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But I recommend

rustic cloud
finite igloo
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Transforming sinxsinx to 1 - cosxcosx

rustic cloud
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Oh okay thanks

finite igloo
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It think it will work tho

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Let’s give it a shot

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I’m too lazy for latex now

rustic cloud
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for latex?

finite igloo
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It does work

rustic cloud
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there’s really no way outta this without identities…..

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So cooked

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Toast, even

finite igloo
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There are only a few identities u need

rustic cloud
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For this problem of just in general?

finite igloo
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For calc

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If u’re not doing some competitions

rustic cloud
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Oh okay

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I guess I’ll just get to memorizing some identities

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If you could drop a few that you deem essential that’d be great

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But you’ve been helping a lot already

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Thank you!

finite igloo
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Okiee

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Wait

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It’s actually mentioned in me textbook

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  1. Trig iden and their derivations
  2. Double angle
  3. Half angle
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tawny charm
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What is x to the power of 2?

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finite igloo
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Wait

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Find area

tawny charm
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Yeah

finite igloo
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Lemme try

tawny charm
finite igloo
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Nvm

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I’m too lazy

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If there is an unknown theorem

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I’m dead 💀

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Cuz I was some algebra

tawny charm
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I have the answer but don't know how to solve that

finite igloo
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The sum of all triangles inside = x^2

tawny charm
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4 triangles

finite igloo
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Yes 💀

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Some terms cancelled

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But was still long

tawny charm
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Only one of them can be caculate

finite igloo
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Is that thing a square tho?

tawny charm
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Yeah

finite igloo
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So

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U can find areas of all triangles?

tawny charm
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I tried to name the parts and solve by equations but it didn't work

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finite igloo
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Wait a second

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U don’t need the area

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U can just equate

tawny charm
finite igloo
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Nvm

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Couldn’t do this 😞

tawny charm
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I'm cooked bro
Been waiting for 2 weeks☠️

finite igloo
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I’ll try in the morning

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It’s 2 am here

tawny charm
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Sorry to bother you

finite igloo
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Cannot use calculator, right?

tawny charm
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For you to better understand my question I think it would be best for me to work through the example problem I have and explain the part I’m confused at after 12 t - 42 + 60 I don’t add 60 to -42 because addition shortcut theorem if f (x) = K where K is some integer the f ‘ (x) = 0, so would the derivative of 60 be 0?

fathom adder
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But i dont understand what you call "addition shortcut"

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Like to get faster and to not simplify, since youll derivate ?

wicked veldt
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So anytime I’m asked to solve for the derivative of a problem and I see a number with no variable attached to it the derivative of that number is 0 ? and No I think my professor just calls it that when he is referring to the constant function rule

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Ok thank you!

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In a linear system of equations, does the order matter? i.e. instead of a row say being x - y + 0z + 0w = 0, would it be wrong to write it as -y + x + 0w + 0z = 0, or are they equivalant? Because if we convert it into a row in the matrix, it seems wrong. But at the same time, in equations, variables can be written in any order

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sinful iris
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this came out in my algebra exam and i had no idea

long oracle
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What did you try?

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and is m here a real number? integer?

sinful iris
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variable

long oracle
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Okay, but could m be any number?

sinful iris
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yeah

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real

long oracle
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So a good start is to determine for what m this is even defined for

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i.e since we know sqrt(x) is defined for x>=0

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and since we have an equality, the LHS must also be >=0

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since the RHS is non-negative

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would you agree?

sinful iris
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what is RHS

long oracle
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right hand side

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while LHS means left hand side

sinful iris
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yeah i agree

long oracle
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i.e which side of the equality we're talking about

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alright, so for the LHS to be non-negative, we have that 1-m >= 0

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try and see if you can do something similar for the expression on the RHS

sinful iris
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so i separate the RHS and LHS into inequations?

long oracle
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well as a start, we're for the moment just trying to figure out which m here is allowed

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for example, we know that sqrt(x) is only defined for x >=0

sinful iris
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yes

long oracle
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so try doing a similar analysis for the RHS

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my tip would be to start in the inner sqaure root and work your way out

sinful iris
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i dont get it

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what we're doing is

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figuring out for what values, m is allowed

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in the equation

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?

long oracle
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are you asking why or how?

sinful iris
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if thats what we're doing

long oracle
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yeah as i explained above thats exactly what we're doing

sinful iris
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doesn't the RHS have to be x >=0 as well theb?

long oracle
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yup

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in which case we know that the LHS also has to be >=0

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which is why i said that 1 - m>=0

sinful iris
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yeah i get that

long oracle
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Makes sense?

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Is something still confusing?

sinful iris
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so far no

long oracle
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Alright cool, so try on your own as a start and see which m are allowed in the square roots in the RHS

sinful iris
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i dont understand what you’re asking there

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do I have to solve an inequality in the RHS)

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?

long oracle
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So the square root function is only defined for certain m, we'd like to reduce the number of possible solutions down to something actually possible before we move on, as for example squaring both sides may wrongly introduce solutions

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so for example as a start, working from the inside to out

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when is $\sqrt{4m^2-7m^4}$ defined?

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sinful iris
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when its higher or equal than zero

long oracle
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what exactly?

sinful iris
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m

long oracle
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m?

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are you sure

sinful iris
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orrr

long oracle
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that would be correct if it said $\sqrt{m}$

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sinful iris
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mmm

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idk what it changes then

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exponents are still even

long oracle
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so the key here is that sqrt(m) is more of placeholder, if we already know that sqrt(m) is defined for m>=0

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then whatever we replace m with should also be true

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so in our case we replace m with 4m^2-7m^4

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i.e when $4m^2-7m^4 \geq 0$

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sinful iris
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oh

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yeah

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i get that

long oracle
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nice!

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i can cut the chase here and move on

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as this just a starting step i'd like to do

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but you can check your solutions afterwards eitherway

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So going back to the equation

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long oracle
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what did you try?

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oops

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meant m^4 on the 7m^2

sinful iris
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i expent little time on it

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but my first idea was

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factorizing

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the inner most sqrt

long oracle
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I think we can also notice atleast one solution here by inspection

sinful iris
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0?

long oracle
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yup!

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so let's keep that one in mind, incase we lose it somehow

long oracle
sinful iris
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i got

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sqrt(m^2(4-7m^2))

long oracle
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right

sinful iris
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then i thought about separating the roots

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and m^2 would simplify to m

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uhh following sqrt(a.b) = sqrt(a) x sqrt(b)

long oracle
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well in general it would be |m|, but in this case it wont matter (by luck tbh)

sinful iris
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ok ok

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but is that useful?

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what im doing

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i mean

long oracle
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Yeah it might

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before factorizing

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did you try to square both sides?

sinful iris
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yeah thats i thought i had but didnt try

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(1-m)^4

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in LHS?

long oracle
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how?

sinful iris
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squaring both sides

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to remove the sqrt

long oracle
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squaring means ^2

sinful iris
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i did it twice

long oracle
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well, why?

sinful iris
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to remove the other one

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ig

long oracle
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maybe theres a step u can do before that

sinful iris
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so its best to square once first

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?

long oracle
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yeah just to be safe

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maybe u can do something

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afterwards

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so u got

sinful iris
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ohhh

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now its starting to look easier

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but ok

long oracle
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$(1-m)^2 = 1 -\sqrt{4m^2-7m^4}$?

sinful iris
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(1-m)^2 = 1 - sqrt(4m^2 - 7m^4)?

flat frigateBOT
sinful iris
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yeah

long oracle
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i would move the 1

sinful iris
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without factorizing the stuff inside the sqrt

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me too

long oracle
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and to be on the safe side multiply by -1 to get a positive square root on the RHS

sinful iris
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so

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m^2 - 2m - 2

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in LHS

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before multiplying by -1

long oracle
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woulnd it be m^2 - 2m?

sinful iris
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yes

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wait

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yes

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it would

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m^2 - 2m

long oracle
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neat

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so then we have $2m - m^2 = \sqrt{4m^2-7m^4}$

flat frigateBOT
long oracle
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and now might be a good idea to factorize the RHS

sinful iris
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yeah

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m^2(4-7m^2)

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right?

long oracle
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yup

sinful iris
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inside the sqrt

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then we separate m^2

long oracle
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yup

sinful iris
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and (4-7m^2)

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then i have

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m^2 - 2m = m . sqrt(4-7m^2)

long oracle
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in pratice, youd need to have |m| after sqrt(m^2)

sinful iris
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do i divide both sides by m?

sinful iris
long oracle
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but i can let it slide this time since it wont matter, but this is very important to remember, okay?

sinful iris
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yes

long oracle
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it will in fact matter in most cases

sinful iris
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i get it

long oracle
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anyways, yes we can divide by m

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since we already know m = 0 was a solution

sinful iris
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ok

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m - 2 = sqrt(4-7m^2)?

long oracle
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oh be careful

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we had 2 - m

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remember we mult. by -1

sinful iris
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-2+m

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then?

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oh wait

long oracle
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no, it should be 2 - m

sinful iris
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the result of multiplying by -1 was

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2-m

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okok

long oracle
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yeah

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from before

sinful iris
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do we square again

long oracle
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okay so now that we have $2-m = \sqrt{4-7m^2}$

flat frigateBOT
long oracle
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it seems fair to square it again

sinful iris
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ok

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bruh when its like this (2-m)^2 its hard to do the factorizing for me idk why

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so i move it to (-m+2)

long oracle
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sure, thats fine!

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in fact notice that (-m + 2)^2 = (m -2)^2

sinful iris
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4 cancels out?

long oracle
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seems so!

sinful iris
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alright then

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8m^2 - 4m = 0

long oracle
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we dont care about m=0

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so just divide by m here

sinful iris
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yes

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bc we already found that answer

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right

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8m - 4 = 0

long oracle
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and so m = ?

sinful iris
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1/2

long oracle
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correct!

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Now as we didnt do the first step properly, let's check this one just incase

sinful iris
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we check the answer?

long oracle
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so just plug it back into the original equation to see if its a valid solution

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you could skip this if you had done the first step (sort of)

sinful iris
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seems to be a solution

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1/2

long oracle
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dope!

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then thats that

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m=0 or m=1/2

sinful iris
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damn

long oracle
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let me check

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,w 1-m = sqrt(1-sqrt(4m^2-7m^4))

long oracle
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dope!

sinful iris
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yeah

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tysm

long oracle
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ur welcome!

sinful iris
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great help

long oracle
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:)

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if you feel done, just write .closed or .solved

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.solved

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What does q35 mean?if the domain is symmetric about Origin, does it mean domain of f is x belongs to R?

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Ty sirkannawave

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im having a bit of trouble trying to simplify the first equation at the top, can someone help point me in the right direction? I keep ending up at the same spot.

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may not be what youre looking for

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but its factorable

mossy gyro
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yea thats what i meant sorry !!

exotic bolt
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don't try to write in terms of sine and cosine

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rather try to make it one common term

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with that being said

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try rewriting

mossy gyro
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should i restart from the original equation?

exotic bolt
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yes

mossy gyro
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okay doky

exotic bolt
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what do you think you should rewrite?

exotic seal
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Hello, good afternoon, any channel in Spanish for algebra help?

mossy gyro
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since its exponent

exotic bolt
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yes

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which would be what

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if you remember your pythag identites

mossy gyro
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oh 1 + tan squared

exotic bolt
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ye

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so you have this

mossy gyro
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ya

exotic bolt
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which is

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looks intimidating to factor at first

mossy gyro
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hmm

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theres so much stuff to take into account for !!!

exotic bolt
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now factor this

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easy right?

mossy gyro
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(x+2)(x+1)

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ya

exotic bolt
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same principle can be applied

mossy gyro
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omg

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wait

exotic bolt
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you could say something like u=tanx

mossy gyro
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you are right

exotic bolt
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which is just this

mossy gyro
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WOOO

exotic bolt
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so this

mossy gyro
exotic bolt
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ye

mossy gyro
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thank you!!!

exotic bolt
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anytime

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it looks hard

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but if you just think about it

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then its just normal factoring

mossy gyro
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haha yea

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i forgot all about that stuff

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i just started trig last week 😔

exotic bolt
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all about applying what you already know

mossy gyro
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got it !!!!

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tyt!!!!

exotic bolt
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anytime

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Hello

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west hedge
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Switching the x and y in terms of their positions gains us the inverse of a function

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what if a function is not invertible

tardy mango
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Then you'll get the inverse relation

west hedge
tardy mango
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all functions are relations

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not all relations are functions

west hedge
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I see

tardy mango
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ex. x = y^2 is a relation, but y isn't a function of x

west hedge
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Could you give me an example?

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About inverse relation

tardy mango
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uh

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inverse of y = x^2

west hedge
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It is x^2 = y

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And the twos are symmetric with respect to the line x=y

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That’s the geometric property of inverse functions!

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Therefore y=x^2 and x=y^2 are inverse

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Agree?

tardy mango
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inverse relations, yes

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x=y^2 is not a function

tardy mango
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y is not a function of x, yes

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I love you

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~help

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bold zodiac
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yo i got 0 clue how to do this shit

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im not gonna lie

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someone tryna help :3

finite igloo
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Okie

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Apply this formula

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Also, make sure u evaluate the right value ^^

bold zodiac
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what is a and b

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yeah highkey 0 clue how to use this formula lolz

finite igloo
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Okie

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So, f-1 (2) = f(1), yes?

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So the derivative is 1/(f’(1))

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In other words, b = 2, a = 1

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Cuz inverses

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lemme just thug it out rq

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how is this not 8.2

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quiet plume
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Why would you expect it to be so?

austere brook
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yeah

timber moss
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this is 50 degrees

austere brook
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radian mode

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prob calc error

pastel whale
austere brook
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always check ur calc mode

bold zodiac
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shiz tragic

bold zodiac
austere brook
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most online calcs use rad

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almost never degrees

pastel whale
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i lost my calculator

bold zodiac
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n never forget if u use a ti84 to do some exponents and you try running a calm -2^2 its gon give u -4 not 4

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austere brook
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in calc

bold zodiac
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yeha

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use parenthesis

austere brook
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you gotta bracket it

bold zodiac
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howevr u spell that

austere brook
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i am a calculator god

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literally my fidget toy in class

pastel whale
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how do i do inverse trig things on the google calculator

austere brook
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atan

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type atan

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also use desmos

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just type ur calculations there

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for desmos do arctan

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is this true?

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2|4

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Determine the smallest area an ellipse disc $x^2 / a^2+y^2 / b^2 \leq 1$ can have, if it is to contain the rectangle $-2 \leq x \leq 2,-1 \ leq y \leq 1$

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1

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we have two boundaries for x and y

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but i don't know what to do with that information, to find the smallest area that the ellipse disc should be coontaine in the bounded region

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fallen oriole
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The formula for the area of an eclipse, isn’t that pi * r^2?

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Or is there a major and minor radius?

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I gave you the correct formula

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It is with the major and minor radius

tardy mango
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The way you wrote it implies those two are equal

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Take that as you will

fallen oriole
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How do I find each of these radiuses

tardy mango
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I mean

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They legit give you the equation of the ellipse

fallen oriole
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So the coefficient is the radius of each

tardy mango
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Recall that it’s a^2 and b^2

fallen oriole
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So if we look for the offset from the center

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Wrt a and b

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We get a = +- sqrt2, and b = +- sqrt1?

tardy mango
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The vertices of the ellipse aren’t the endpoints of the axes tho

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Try drawing a diagram

fallen oriole
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If I stretch a to equal 2, it will expand horizontally

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To meet the borders of x

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@tardy mango

tardy mango
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“Contain” means the rectangle must be inscribed in the ellipse to achieve minimal area

fallen oriole
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So what should I set a and b equal to?

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Just draw a rough sketch by hand for visualization purposes sully

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Ok let’s say this is my rough sketch

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What should I do next

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“Rough sketch” as in not to scale but still capturing the main idea

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Not “rough sketch” as in barely representative of the situation

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You said that the rectangle should be contained within the ellipse

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This is what the sketch is showing here

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I did also say “inscribed”

fallen oriole
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As far as I can see, the rectangle is inside of the ellipse

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If there is a difference between inscribe and inside, then I would like to know

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You know what fuck this I’m not drawing a fucking sketch

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What do you not understand?

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am I able to use the second derivative to find stationary points?

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I think I misunderstood this

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why second derivative tho?

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just bcs why not?

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yeah so second derivative tells you how it curves

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I see

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You can find its factors directly

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Can you?

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How could I manipulate the inequality $n>\ln(n)$ to prove it in terms of real numbers. note $n\geq2$

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marsh walrus
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what math do you know

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calculus?

lilac delta
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$\frac{1}{\ln(n)}>\frac{1}{n}$

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marsh walrus
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and you want to show that it diverges

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sure

lilac delta
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Yeah

marsh walrus
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so examine f(x) = x-lnx

lilac delta
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this is one of the steps for me finding the radius and interval of convergence for a larger series but i'm basically at the end, this is just checking the lower interval

marsh walrus
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can you think of ways to do that?

lilac delta
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oh

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derivative

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sure, yea

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wait

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sorry i didn't get any sleep so it's kinda hampering me

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so I just need to show x-lnx>0 for x>=2

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,w plot x-ln(x)

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yeah I was going to say you could just show that algebraically

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prove that it doesn't have any roots past x=2

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I see

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then f cant be negative on the interval

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so, it must be positive

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f(2)>0 and f'(x)>0 on x>=2

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yeah

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up to neq but im sure you got that

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well leq geq

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$f'(x)>0,;x\geq2$

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sure yea

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theres a floating edge case but it doesnt really matter

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Ok so to recap, If I can show that x-lnx is positive on the given interval, then x must be larger than lnx because, if it were not, the result would be negative

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it just holds the concern that you cant compare two series that are identical

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or the test isnt valid

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and I can prove that it is by showing it is positive at the start of the interval, and that the derivative is positive for the rest of it

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Alright yeah that makes sense

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yeah

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Thank you

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np

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i forget how do you solve for invariant points do you make the equation = +/- 1?

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x+y+z = 63

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i think i knoew the answer

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x= 0.4(z+y)

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i want the method

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oh ok

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mhm

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you said not answer

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where did u get 45

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ok

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you get?

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0.4z+ 0.4y +y +z = 63

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i still have 2 unknowns?

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WAIT

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i think you see it right?

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1.4z + 1.4y =63

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divide by 1.4

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z+y = 45

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0.4 x 45

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18

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damnn

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bingo

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thanks man

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Gj wp

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nicely done

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Currently learning triangle inequality. Stuck on this question (don’t know what inequalities to use) please help!

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,rccw

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this is a question on my math 142 practice test and I've been really struggling with inverses since it's an online class and would like to receive some extra help. i'm having trouble wrapping my head around converting a trigonometric function into an algebraic one

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Deduce the following formula from a^2 = b^2 + c^2

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I honestly have no idea

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it'll help if you start by drawing a triangle with sides a, b, c and an angle B