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wait i setup that peiewise wrong i think
my book has it like this instead
do you know why?
wtf
thats how they have the derivatiive setup
so this doesnt have an absoulte max does it?? im wondering if it has a local either?
no absolute or local max is my belief
hwo would i show that wit this?
??
we know f'(x) for both when x > 0 and x < 0 and none of them are 0 since they are 1 and -1
so there are no critical points
and we agreed that f is not differentiable at 0
oh so i can write 1 doesnt = 0 and -1 doesnt = 0...
but how will i show that the min is at 0
f(0) = 0, we know that.....
ok
for x > 0, f(x) = x and so f > 0 for all x > 0 and f(x) = -x when x < 0, negative times negative is positive so f > 0 for x < 0 as well
nope
no solutions
would it be like $e = ^xsqrt(0)$?
wakamole
but how do you show that?
maybe like ln(e^x) = ln(0) but ln(0) is undefined
ok yea ty
i keep forgetting these properties!!!
i feel like im going to fail my teset because of this
u took a long time to respond to this one? did u do it by urself? 😅
well that is not a complete proof (insert fitting emoji)
y
u want to show that (0, 0) is an absolute minimum right?
wait before we go there, if we do ln(e^x) = ln(0) we can simplify further.. to x = ln(0) right?
yea
ig
, then x = ln0 which is undefined or like ln 0 is not a value so there is no value for x
but yeah, u just wrote f(0) = 0, how does that show (0, 0) is an absolute min? Because for it to be an absolute minimum f(0) must be less than or equal to f(x) for all x ∈ R
idk actually
ur right
hahaah
i got the derivative then did that
how does this also show theres no max as well?
maybe we can just logic our way to that conclusion
f'(x) for x > 0 is 1 and x < 0 is -1 meaning for x > 0, the function is always increasing
for x < 0, we know that as x ---> -∞, f(x) ---> ∞ and because f'(x) = -1 for x < 0, it's just always decreasing until we reach x = 0. So hopefully this logically explains why there is no local or abs max
ill just write it
waitr i already did
in the ppiecewise
but hwo did i get the '0' to plug int f(x) ?
like why
oh well
honestly idc at this point
lol, i have to go now it was nice talking or helping u
Does this look right? Its asking to find the critical numbers of the function
Ohh ok
Bye that’s fine I’ll open a. New one!
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v = (+ or -) 2
no if its -2 it would be 20
3(-2)^2 - 12
no u plug it bak into original equation
oh wait
so maybe the answer is just 2 , -2?
yeah
ok idk what that extra step is for tbh
what extra step
i plugged them abk into the derivative
i guess its for the y values
v is the x axis
are you good at deriving?
differentiate*
right haha
Should I do ln and do implicitly here
cause that looks like a nasty quotine rule
so this isn't asking u to differentiate, it wants to solve for p?
no its same question different
equation
critical numbers
i need to differentate remember/
no h(p)
im saying theres a rule for implicit i think i can add ln to both sides
so i can instead of doing quotient rulw
i just use log properties
isnt that what its for?
u want to do implicit differentiation?
would it be easier that way
I remember when I took calc, there was a trick with ln but honestly I forgot
well by looking
at it
qoutient rule seems annoying
g' needs chain rule
right?
o wait nevermind
I don't think u need chain rule, quotient rule is good enough
ig u could look on youtube for the implicit differentiation with ln thingy
I think u have a good grasp of the rules and such so if it is wrong then it means u made a silly mistake. You can check on desmos the graphing calculator to compare if the graphs are the same
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i got thtat part right but have no idea how to solve for p
for critical points
yo what is that you hash
bruh we both got banned from gotham city
hwo do you solve for p?
hru bruh
no i just left
since the r.h.s is 0 you can get rid of the denominator
and solve the quadratic
r.h.s ?
right hand side
y does that mean get rid of the denpominator?
0 = (2p^2 + 2p) / (p^4 + 4) multiply both sides by p^4 + 4
divide both sides by 2
0 = p^2 + p
oh[
0 = p(p + 1)
ya
i c
unless you can make the denominator a VA right?
cause im trying to find the critical pooints
why divide both sides by 2
make it simpler
im looking at the wrong thing
the critical points in this case aren't integers
TheRuleOfEngineering
yeah ^
yea fugg
oh cool, i got banned for calling one of the mods gay

TheRuleOfEngineering
you can also flip the signs to make it simpler
TheRuleOfEngineering
i actually had that and the neg sign just dissappeared halfway through
its ok i got it
lol relatable
so that is the critical pooints then... 1 + sqrt(5), 1 - aqrt(5)
Hello, does anyone know how to identify circuits in series, parallel and with?
ping me in an open channel
im probably gonna submit an unban request to gotham city, the stem channel in that server is better than the helping mechanism for this server I think
nope this server is better
does that look right?
yep the critical points check out
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they just wana check my algebra at this point 😦
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yep
I sent you a private message
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if it's in series, then the two components are connected only at one terminal and if parallel then both terminals are connected im pretty sure
can you please help him in a dif channel, no offense
this is almost correct
the denominator would be $3(4-x^2)^{\frac{2}{3}}$
ok cbrt is not a command nice
thats what i have
TheRuleOfEngineering
just gotta add the 3
ohhh
damn
ok so the first crit point is 0 because it is undefined at 0
then i can solve for the horizontal slopes = 0
Yes, but in the image they sent me I cannot identify them.
bruh go to an open help channel, ill help you there
lmao, this channel has two helpees
ok this is confusing
am i wrong about it being undefined at 0 in the denominator?
oh fuq
i meant 2
2 is undefined in the denominator
and neg 2?
or just 2
its undefined at 2 and -2 yep
but those arent critical points
i think the only critical point is (0,0)
you can always graph the equation to verify ur answers
yea
engineer, do u know randomized testing?
yea
so u know statistics?
nope
yeah
if by randomized testing you mean the software-testing technique with random input generation
that seems like something that would be part of software engineering but im saying randomized testing in statistics
btw, u still talk to oops?
oh damn i forgot about oops
@clever ridge sorry it's supposed to be ur help channel, im gonna head out since im not helping
lol u talk to jace? 
Is this looking ok?
it would stop at $2x\ln x + x$
TheRuleOfEngineering
cant add those two up
True
TheRuleOfEngineering
but yeah thats about it
Right
which is better equation to have when solviing for x?
not the factored one ya?
you just gotta make sure whichever equation you use, you consider all possible cases for x where the function=0
you could use either equation
hmm
im trying to do both but i cant seem to get the same answer
in the factored one you can do x = 0
but i think that's it
in the non factored one i get ln(x) = -1/2
im not sure what properites i could use though for ln
i am rly bad at that
I don't think that LHS division was done properly, and in addition dividing both sides by 2x here isn't very helpful
like (2 + lnx) / 2x ≠ ln x
(a + b) / c = a/c + b/c
i am getting rid of 2x on the left side
and moving it to the right side
brb im taking a shower
u have -x / 2x which already simplifies to -1/2 if im not mistaken
this is kinda why i prefer using factorized equations when the other side is 0
actually hold on just a minute
TheRuleOfEngineering
idk, im pretty sure the algebra is wrong but i saw on the desmos, that the answer is the same, so idk what's going on
i think the algebra is fine
@clever ridge at the end u got ln(x) = -1/2
both the factorized and non factorized equations give you the same result
TheRuleOfEngineering
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yea but cant be 0 cause that would be undefined in the original equation
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Hey there 👋 I need help with Calc 2
I understand that this is an integration by parts problem, but I am unsure on how to do this.
but you got the right answer, how did you find it
there is an answer key posted, but I need to show how to get to my awnser
ah i see
but I'm not too sure how to get to that
do you know how to do integration by parts in general?
In general; I know the concept is kinda splitting it into two?
and then going downish
yeah it should be something like $\int u,dv = uv - \int v,du$
Bungo
if you're familiar with that form
generally idea is that you let u be part of your integrand, and dv the rest of the integrand
and you want to choose u to be something that gets simpler (ideally just becomes a constant) when you differentiate it
so yea u = t is a good choice
v = e^4t
v' = e^4t/4
except you're integrating
dv = e^(4t)
v = (1/4)e^(4t)
right idea but wrong notation
we're only integrating the last part right?
so now plug all that into the earlier formula
yep the uv part doesn't get integrated
just the v du part
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sqrt is the same thing as raising to the 1/2 power
uh huh
so you can use the properties that (xy)^z = x^z * y^z, and the property that (x^y)^z = x^(yz)
wait im processing
(81a^7b^12c^9)^(1/2) is the same as if you distributed the 1/2 power to the various factors
so b^6 and c^4?
uhhhhh
so it's equivalent to (81)^(1/2) * (a^7)^(1/2) * (b^12)^(1/2) * (c^9)^(1/2)
jesko
oh wha tthe heck
and a power to a power is the same as if you multiplied the powers
the 81^(1/2) is just sqrt(81) = 9
(a^7)^(1/2) = a^(7/2), etc
but the idea is to try to bring out as many whole copies of a as you can
a^(7/2) = a^3 * a^(1/2)
jesko
which is what @odd arch is doing but bringing out an even power under the square root
$\sqrt{a^7}=\sqrt{a^6\cdot a}=\sqrt{a^6}\cdot\sqrt{a}$
oh wait i see it kind of
the idea is to write the stuff under the radical as a bunch of perfect squares
uh huh
distribute the square root, simplify taking the square root of a perfect square, and just leave what's left under the radical
so you just divide the exponent inside by 2 because it's square root right
yeah start with $=\sqrt{81}\cdot\sqrt{a^7}\cdot\sqrt{b^{12}}\cdot\sqrt{c^9}$
which exponent
like all fo them basically i guess
so for example, sqrt(x^5y^4) is the same as sqrt((x^2y^2)^2 * x), which is the same as sqrt((x^2y^2)^2) * sqrt(x), which is the same as x^2y^2 * sqrt(x)
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yea except for the odd numbers like 9 and 7
i see
then split it up to make it even (like you did with a^7)
uh huh
i get it
thank you goats.
should i use khan academy or soemhting else
cuase im kind of iffy on this thing
jesko
yea or other practice websites prolly as well
any recs :3
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just to be sure, is this 10 square units?
yuh
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this is from a friend of mine. Just trying to get him some help 🙏
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how do i find the residue of 3/(z-i ) at i
i tried doing this : 3/i(-1+z/i)
3/-i(1-z/i)
then 3i/(1-z/i)
in order to use this
have you had the residue theorem?
yes
the residue of a laurent series is the coefficient of the -1th term
well the laurent expansion of $\df 3 {z - i}$ around $i$ is $\df 3 {z - i}$
but how
do you know what a laurent series looks like?
this doesn't give me that
series with negative powers of z
and residue is a_-1
no
the expansion is around i
so its powers of (z - i)
,, \f 3 {z - i} = \sum_{k = -\infty}^\infty a_k (z - i)^k = \f 3 {z - i}
3 is the coefficient of the -1th power
ok i get it
thank you
can i also ask about somethin similar
i don't understand this reasoning
do you know what it means for g to have a simple pole at z = 1
it depends 
that there is a lauren expansion at z=1?
they have a typo there
not just that there is a laurent expansion
,, g(z) = \2r{\underbrace {\f {a_{-1}} {z - 1}}{\text{principal part}}} + \2b{\underbrace {\sum{k = 0}^\infty a_k (z - 1)^k}_{\text{analytic part}}}
the fact that g has a simple pole at z = 1 means that the principal part is order 1
so the negative powers only go up to -1
how can you be sure for that
thats the definition of simple pole
so for a double pole the negative powers go up to -2
yes
also a_{-1} has to be nonzero here
anyway
you just sub this into the expression for f
,align f(z) & = \f 2 {\2g{z - 1}} \parens [\bigg] {\2b{\f {a_{-1}} {z - 1} + \sum_{k = 0}^\infty a_k (z - 1)^k}} + \f 1 {(z - 1)^2} \
& = \f {2a_{-1}} {(z - 1)^2} + \f {2a_0} {z - 1} + \sum_{l = 0}^\infty 2a_{\2r{l - 1}} (z - 1)^l + \2o{\f 1 {(z - 1)^2}} \
& = \f {2a_{-1} + \2o1} {(z - 1)^2} + \f {2a_0} {z - 1} + \sum_{l = 0}^\infty 2a_{\2r{l - 1}} (z - 1)^l
the 1/(z - 1) shifts all the powers down by 1
and at the second row should k start from 1?
ive shifted everything already
ok
the part in green causes all the powers of the blue bit to shift down by 1
and the part in red is the shift
ok
okay so
you now need to analyse what happens in the various cases presented to you
the orange part gets combined into the fraction with (z - 1)^2 denom
yes
its not a simple pole if the (z - 1)^-2 term remains
so the first option is false
so long as this term is nonzero, you have a double pole
this is false because you can see the residue of f is 2a_0, which is not necessarily 0
and that means this is also false
since $\Res_f(1) = 2a_0 \ne 2\Res_g(1) = 2a_{-1}$
finally this is true because
the first option said what you already said before
because when $\Res_g(1) = a_{-1} \ne -\f12$, you have a double pole
.
oh it says not
well
when $\Res_g(1) = a_{-1} = -\f12$, you don't have a double pole
this term will vanish
ok
is this false because a0 can be anything?
well 2a_0 and 2a_-1 are just not equal in general
see here
how do you know that 2a_-1 is the residue of g
but why specificaly not -1/2
again, its all to do with this term
,, 2a_{-1} + 1 \ne 0 \Iff a_{-1} \ne -\f12
the existence of the (z - 1)^-2 term causes a double pole
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when they say like 'given any (4×4)-matrix A and the (4x4)-matrix M1' and they want u to check out which given statements r correct whats like the easiest matrix to pick for A?
if you're going to multiply A*M1 for example
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It depends on the statement
huh i drilled trough like 10 questions in a channel once
Which of the matrices below has
as its first column the first column of matrix A,
as the second column the double of the fourth column of matrix A,
as the third column the third column of matrix A,
as the fourth column the second column of matrix A?
what would be the best option to use for A
You don't have to choose a matrix A here
This is about the properties of the product of matrices in general
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If you multiply two matrices A and B then each column of AB equals A times the corresponding column of B
And A times a vector b is a linear combination of the columns of A, with the numbers of b corresponding to the coefficients
For example, consider the product
$$
\begin{pmatrix}
a_1 & b_1 \\
a_2 & b_2
\end{pmatrix}
\begin{pmatrix}
2 & 0 & 1\\
1 & 1 & -1
\end{pmatrix}
$$
d
The result is a matrix with two rows and three columns
The first column is 2 times (a_1 a_2) plus 1 times (b_1 b_2)
Because you have the vector (2 1)
And the second and third are similar
So here you have to use this idea but for 4x4 matrices
when you use a matrix with numbers you will prove it for that particular matrix only
instead use a matrix with variables
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sorry abt the mess
idk what I'm doing
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mhm?
Have you seen what this symbol mean ?
Oh no, there is much simpler
In my opinion
What is the definition of nCr ?
Actually, when I say "there is much simpler", now that I read your screen, I realize that it has nothing to do with your exercise. Your screen prove a property based on what you want to show, so you cannot use it to solve your exercise
(And no, the solution of your exercise has nothing to do with your screen. It is simply writing definitions)
So, I insist, what is the definition of nCr ?
choosing r things out of n?
Yes, that is the intuition/motivation
And the mathematical definition ?
(Or the formula to compute it, if you prefer)
n! / r!(n-r)!
?
ohh the problem is, using n! / r!(n-r)! is part of another question
i know how to prove it using n! / r!(n-r)! but idk how to prove it with that identity
Oops, I removed the wrong answer
But yes
I don't understand
Oooh, okey
Now I understand
Thus, you will use this Newton's binomial formula, yes
First, compute
(1 + x)^(n+1) with it
Then, compute
(1 + x)^n with it
After, multiply this last result by (1 + x) and compare
Yes
THIS HELPED ALOT
xD Perfect xD
i had smth written in my book during my lecture but reading it now i didnt know what it said 💀
so i had to redo the whole proof
oh thank goodness oh my gosh
No problem xD
Oh, I did not expect your teacher to be so dangerous xD
i have a test tmrw and i needed to know how to do this 🥲
thank you so much for helping 🫶
You are welcome ^^
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Couldnt find help
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what's this?
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Can anyone solve this by easiest methods
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which number do you need help with
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Hello
I think this is a really basic question but I got confused about it
I'm doing this problem right now "A driver sets out on a journey. For the first half of the distance, she drives at the
leisurely pace of 30 mi/h; during the second half she drives 60 mi/h. What is her
average speed on this trip?"
So while looking at the steps at solving problems the books says that I need to multypy the denominator and numerator by 60... But I don't understand why that number and not another one
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to remove the fraction ig?
lcm
L.C.M will be the lowest number so that the fraction goes extinct
IS that possible in this case because the fractions are being added
I thought canceling is only possible when you're multiplying{
Idu
What is idu?
i don't understand your question
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If I'm guessing correctly, are polynomial functions derived from various behaviors, and can the input values be applied to see how the function behaves? And factoring them somehow, due to equivalence, would let you see various other parts of that function when graphed?
Yes
and Understanding Polynomial Functions:
When graphed, the polynomial function shows a curve that can be analyzed for various characteristics like intercepts, turning points, and end behavior.
How are the values relations to the X, Y, or Z axis's determined?
The roots (found by factoring) are the points where the graph intersects the
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x-axis.
sqrt?
No the solutions
That's a interesting way to say it
Basically the roots are the solutions you get after factorisation
I don't understand how any of those are related, as I was just asking how they got x or y in the first place.
They get x by factorisation
Are each X value considered as a different axis?
Each x value is plotted on a graph on the x-axis
Because are the X values considered different types of data or points of interst?
So what bout the C value?
would that be the Y axis?
Constant?
Where is C here?
I made it up
No
If you had a variable named C would that increase the Y value?
C instead of x you mean?
depends
If you meant C instead of y, it would become a linear equation with different points on different axis
ofc
I'm going to ask this again.
What do the variables represent, and how are they related to the X and Y axis's? Do you specefically need to name it Y for it to exist on both axis's?
Just using a function alone you wouldn't get the Y axis if you were only adding to the X axis.
You equations you sent above are polynomial functions
This one I mean
Yes
3rd adjustment:
How do polynomials and quadratics differ?
A quadratic function is a polynomial function
the highest degree is 2
But not all polynomial functions are a quadratic function
yeah
Y is the range or co-domain of the function
That is, the set of all possible solutions of the given equation
If you need in simple terms,
You basically find the all the values here and you'll get a value for y after inputting them
That gives the graph along with x axis
I'm still thinking about what you said, and trying to think of a model that would explain all this.
Alright
he did it twice yesterday and day before it. but nvm.
You're secretly lurking everywhere I c
Tell your problem clearly
meolve how are your answers so off topic i swear
like its hard not to mention it
like how earlier i was asking for the answer to how they got the x and y axis and it looked like you answered by using the knowledge i was already asking about to try to explain it
sigh
i dont get it
so thats just normal to you?
what?
wdym 'y-axis'?
the numbers already move linearly up or down along the X axis
You get you basically get (x-5)(x+4) that's the solution
so they are 2 separate answers and the 2 axis's are both of them graphed?
and both of them represent the positive and negative directions?
Yes
BRO
They are just points
,w graph (x-5)(x+4)
Yup this is it
A parabola that connects the 2 points give the graph
i dont get it how do you NOT see that?
The y value will be the product of the roots
how dont you see what im seeing?
also i just realised something
smart people DO NOT weave past experiences to solve current experiences without altering the data because this clearly is used very differently
Not necessarily
cuz i tried that and that killed me so many times
unless idk they pull a colin galen but nvm
Could you phrase it better?
There is no data being altered here
you cant think oh i saw this somewhere else this is probably whats happening because 99% of the time in math it seems they will literally show you the same thing but different in such a way that if you take the same interpretation as something was prior you can literally get stuck for hours
literally all the knowledge i learnt in math feels like its useless for problem solving
because any time i try to weave the current problem with past problems something dumb happens like they used the same thing but change its semantic context so it means something entirely different
You just gotta learn more and more
ah yes solve for X by isolating X (unknown value first algebra)
later: OOPS x is now multiple input values and can be whatever you want and you must solve for the quadratic instead
I think it's mostly because people use their intuitive sense in problem solving subconsciously and when they don't get it they think like this
Yes it can be anything you want, the graph only works if (x-5)(x+4) = 0
and then people say stuff like this
and then i end up thinking my teachers are insane
because nobody seems to think it was a good idea to explain why thats the case
so theres nothing to build it on
though recently ive been trying to just focus on interpreting and reinterpreting everything and building models of how everything works and then asking if they are correct to narrow it down
though sorry for personal dialogue its just that bugs me alot
Nah it's alright
ty
Goodluck
You're welcome

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hi
will changing the concentration of a reaction affect how much the substance is formed?
depends
how so?
generally speaking it affects the rate at how fast a reaction proceeds
however if you have an equillibrium reaction then it changes in accordance with Le Chatelier's principle
I mean more reactancts = more products sure
so if it's at equilibrium it won't change?
the final product
no it will
but it more has to do with the moles of gaseuous reactants than the concentration explicitly
but since these terms are related, it will affect
shit
no
wait
Question is "Outline why changes in only temp, non-limiting reagent reactant concentration, surface area, and catalyst will not result in line D"
I kinda see why bc the mass of MgO shouldnt be different
but again by changing the concentration it opens up a possibility?
perhaps an error in the question
what's the solid line
And what's the y axis
Y is mass(g)
This seems kind of arbitrary to me
Maybe you'll have better luck in the chemistry server
ight thanks for helping out
have a nice one
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I am trying to calculate this through but I have problems with reading the notation and Im not sure why there is a minus at athe very front.
I defined 3 sets:
A={1,2,3,4} B={3,4,5,6} C={1,6,7,8}
I looked at the first term of the equation and did the union of all 3 sets which cardinality equals 6. Due to the minus sign it is -6.
How do I continue from here?
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isnt this the Inclusion Exclusion Principle?
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Hello, I would like to know if there's a known / defined name for the operation of pancaking values between two limits, so unlike the clamp where we have the values made constant before and after the limits, here the middle is collapsed to a constant (0)
And can be usually expressed as
y = x - clamp(x, a, b)
I usually call it the "Fold"
squeeze theorem?
And I could represent it in desmos like this https://www.desmos.com/calculator/wnh7kgahvr
Or in a 3D environment, like this
Lemme websearch it
No, unfortunately
Since I see this operation pop up several times in some algorithms
I wondered if it was named, like the clamp
Basically if a value is between the limits
it will be 0
So a grid like this
Becomes flattned between those two poistions like this
now, what happens if I make a circular hole
If I don't collapse the mesh, just use the collapsed positions for texture, I get a line between the points.
I was just wondering if there was a known name
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I know theres a trick to solve this really easily because the highest coefficient of the numerator is 2 greater than the highest coefficient of the denominator right? So isnt it automatically equal to 1 or zero or something? Or am I mixing this up with something else
Its been a while since I did these so I vaguely remember that trick but I might be mixing it up with something else...
multiply both the numerator and denominator with 1/x
Ok I can do that but what about the trick? Am I confusing it with something else
don't really know what trick exactly you're talking about. If the degree of the numerator is higher it should just go to infty or -infty.
Ah maybe thats it
you can prove this using this argument basically
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Oke I think i just got lucky with that one cause I tried some others and got them all wrong lol
Whats the next step after that
in the example you provided the denominator would go to 1 so you're left with the numerator goint to -infty
if the degree of the denominator is k you multply both with $x^{-k}$
belabutter
that way the denominator will always go to 1 if x goes to infty
yeah
What do you mean it would go to 1 sry
Thats what were trying to find out no?
Im a little lost haha
correction: it will converge to some constant, not necessarly 1
i meant for the denominator
remember the limit laws
lim f/g = lim f / lim g but only if lim g is not equal to 0 and g(x) = 0 for finitely many x
1/x^k goes to 0 if x goes to infinity, agreed?
I think so haha
x^(-4)/(x^-2 + x^-1 + 1) ?
yes
numerator goes to zero
denominator goes to 1
so you have 0/1 for the limit
which is 0
Ok i get you so far
-infinity ?
0
no
1 ?
no
it does exist
ah -15 lol
yes
-15/(x^-2 + x^-1 + 1)
yes
Idk whats next tho
take the limit
this
So x^-2 and x^-1 both become 0, no?
yes
So its just 15?
-15
ah ye haha
but yes
DNE?
no
But the entire denominator goes to 0 no?
you multiply both den and num with x^(-k) where k is the degree of the denominator
by doing this it will never be zero
that's the point so we can take the limit
So what happens sry
you multiply both num and den with x^(-k). What's k?
-4
(-15 -x^-4)/(x^-2 + x^-1 + 1)
not quite
(-15 -x^4)/(x^-2 + x^-1 + 1)
yes
maybe i should clarify: By multiplying both den and num with x^(-k) it's the same as multiplying with 1, you don't change anything. That's why this works
Im not sure sry
yess
you can do it bro
note that x goes to negative infinity
for the sign you need to pay attention to: does x go to + or - infinity? Is the degree of the numerator odd or even? What's the factor in front of x^r (where r is the degree of num).
What does the degree of the numerator being odd or even change?