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Ohh okay
Otherwise you’d have to fuck around with integrals
Lmao
Stupid auto correct
I was so taken aback 💀
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Does anyone know how to solve this and explain to me how to get it right every time?
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are all the answers right or do I need to present them on a number line?
For the right side, it would be 1/sqrt(2)
Ideally, for clarity you should represent them on a number line
Basically the solution space would be $(-\infty, -1] \cup (-\frac{1}{\sqrt2}, \frac{1}{\sqrt2}) \cup [1, \infty)$
fukwerint
Your solution is either |x| >= 1 or |x| <= 1/sqrt(2), right?
When did I exclude those points?
[-1/root of 2, 1/root of 2] ?
I will try doing the logarithmic one now
How do I solve of the apsolute values, should i write them as x2-2x and -x2 + 2x
as more branches and solve for each one?
or can I use a table?
@wintry locust
Oh yes, I missed the square brackets, my bad
No
How can the input to log function be negative?
log(x) >= 0 implies x >= 1
Not x<=-1
oh so the apsolute values need to be positive only?
No, for breaking the absolute values, just take cases around the zeroes of the expressions inside the abs
For example
Your function contains abs around (x+2) and (x^2 - 2x)
So you can break your solution into 4 cases, around x = -2, 0, 2
And open the absolute values accordingly in 4 cases
-2 and 2 are for |x+2| right?
where did I get the 0
the apsolute value of a quadratic function is always positive right?, and since I don’t have C or the free number, I get 0 ?
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So i plug these values into first case since the second one cant be negative for the log
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Yup
And break the first equation (on the left) into the cases I mentioned and solve
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can someone go over with me on how to find the derivative?
a is 3
quotient rule
u'v-uv'/v^2
or, if you prefer, product rule where the fraction becomes (...)^-1
this 0ne
yep, so what is u and what is v (and therefore what is u' and what is v')
is this right?
my u is x^2-9 and my v is sqrt(x+a)
hard to say without working it out myself without seeing each of the 4 values 😛
okay yep
u' is obvious, and v'?
\frac{1}{2\sqrt{x+3}}\left(x-3\right)
uh, not sure where the x-3 is coming from?
1/(2*Sqrt(x+3))(1)
.
d/dx of (x+3)^(1/2) is (1/2)*(1/sqrt(x+3))
wait so you're doing the derivative of $\frac{x^2 - 9}{\sqrt{x+3}}$?
poudel
$\frac{1}{2(sqrt(x+3))}$
PrettyPrincessKitty FS
how do i write like that too?
thats v'
in which case I think you have got it correct
when you have $\frac{u}{v}$, the derivative is $\frac{u'v - uv'}{v^2}$
poudel
I haven't done the simplification to double check but it looks about right
mine is right?
wait let me quickly do it lol
i want it to be always positive on the down tho
thats what a calc gave me
i want it like that
idk what i did wrong
you can do some factoring of the top
3 is common to the top, then you can probably factorise into (x-b)(x+3) and then the x+3 cancels
wait how
here i took the (x^2-9)to the top
ohh wait
here's a much better way
of approaching this q
I think
start by simplfying the given expression
instead of instantly applying quotient rule
$\frac{x^2 - 9}{\sqrt{x+3}}
\ \ = \frac{(x+3)(x-3)}{\sqrt{x+3}}
\ \ = \sqrt{x+3}(x-3)$
poudel
then just apply product rule from here
,ask differentiate \frac{x^2 - 9}{\sqrt{x+3}}
what is that?
differentiate just means 'find the derviative'
what is that
i need to 'go pro'
the handwriting is wild lmao
icl im not sure what u did here
can we vc and i will show ya?
yeah alr
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find $f : \left(1, +\infty\right) \to \mathbb{R}\$ such that $f(2) = 7$ and $\(x^2 -x)f(x) = 14 + \int_{2}^{x} (9t-4)f(t)dt$
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You can differentiate both sides of this equation wrt x to form a differential equation in x
,, (2x -1)f'(x) = \int_{2}^{x} (9t-4)f(t)dtdx
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something like this?
oh god
$\frac{d}{dx}(f(x)\cdot g(x))\ne f'(x)\cdot g'(x)$
kheerii
and for the left side you need to use the fundamental theorem of calculus part 1
yes sorry
a moment
what?
right side
you mean?
yes this
yeah sorry the right side
,, (2x-1) \cdot f(x) + (x^2 -x) \cdot f'(x)
yes indeed
,, (2x-1) \cdot f(x) + (x^2 -x) \cdot f'(x) = \frac{d}{dx} \int_{2}^{x} (9t-4)f(t)dt
bruh
I missclicked
Can i know the question ?
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this is the question
but its translated to english
Why dont you differentiate rhs
how to
newton leibnitz
Im writing the formula
For one variable
d/dx int u(x) to v(x) of f(t) dt
Will be
v'(x)×f(v(x)) - u'(x)×f(u(x))
In this question it would be
(9x-4)(f(x)) on differentiation
Lower limit u(x) upper v(x)
,, (2x-1) \cdot f(x) + (x^2 -x) \cdot f'(x) = (9x-4)f(x)
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Yeah was this your question?
ahh okay !
why are they giving away f(2) = 7
f'x(x²-x) = f(x)(7x+3)
I agree
Or f'(x) = f(x)(7x+3)/(x²-x)
one min
Hey
f'(x)/f(x) = 7x+3/x²-x
now integrate both sides
ln f(x) = ....
@spiral saddle ...
I hope you can solve the rest
Using f(2) = 7 will help you find the value of integration constant
lowkey this is the hard part
how do I differentiate this diff eq
,, \int \frac{f'(x)}{f(x)} dx = \int \frac{7x+3}{x^2 -x} dx
938c2cc0dcc05f2b68c4287040cfcf71
partial fractions will work for the right side integral
by using partial fractions you mean this $\frac{7x+3}{x(x - 1)} = \frac{a}{x} + \frac{b}{x-1}$
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yes indeed
,w solve 7x + 3 = a(x-1) + bx
just compare the coefficients man
7x + 3 = x(a + b) -a
a+b = 7
a = -3
im new to it man, relax
b = 10
so $\frac{-3}{x} + \frac{10}{x-1}$
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but question is how do I integrate lhs
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Shouldn't it be 7x-3 tho
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,, (x^2 - x) \cdot y' = (7x -3)y
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Did you get the answer
still no
lowkey I am getting confused since there are multiple constants C
,, \frac{dy}{dx} \cdot \frac{1}{y} = \frac{7x-3}{x^2 -x} \cdot \frac{dx}{dy}
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,, \ln(y) = 3\ln(x) + 4\ln(x-1) + C
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this is what we get after partial fraction decomposition
,, \frac{7x-3}{x^2 -x} = \frac{a}{x} + \frac{b}{x-1}
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then we solve for a(x-1) + bx = 7x- 3
ax - a +bx = 7x-3
x(a + b) - a = 7x-3
7 = a+ b
a = 3
b = 4
then integral of 3/x is 3lnx and integral 4/(x-1) is 4ln(x-1)
now that we are here
is where things get tough
when I try to calculate C there are multiple C's
,, y = e^{3\ln(x) + 4\ln(x-1) + C}
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,, 7 = e^{3\ln(2) + 4\ln(1) + C}
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,, 7 = e^{3\ln(2)+C} = e^{3\ln(2)} \cdot e^{C} = 7
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,, e^c = \frac{7}{e^{3\ln(2)}}
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$e^{3 \cdot \ln(2)} = e^{\ln\left(2^3\right)}$
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$e^c = \frac{7}{8}$
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$y = x^3 + (x-1)^4 + e^c$
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this is from this $y = e^{3\ln(x) + 4\ln(x-1) + C}$
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and finally $f(x) = \frac{7}{8} \cdot \left(x^3 \cdot (x-1)^4\right)$
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Im not the best at math so please be patient. This question is on slope intercept form, but the line isnt linear/straight and its asking me to find the slope?? How do I find the slope if it’s not linear?
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you need to find approx slope
So treat the line as approximately linear and find the slope...
here the slope isn't linearly increasing you'd notice it immediately right
a more precise answer is there is a strong linear relationship. saying no is not that meaningful. While it is true the graph is not linear that does not mean we can;t approximate it using a straight line
So, graph ain't linear
approx slope can be found out with differentiation easily
or you can just find it at the lowest collision
just draw a tangent
bruh stop reacting with skull emotions
it's true, differentiation takes like 2 secs
so would i be using (1, 280) and (7, 300) ?
yes
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i needto know howto solve second part
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I'm a bit confused on why this problem is divergent
-ln|7-6.999999999| doesn't cause issues?
What happens to the argument of the logarithm as k-->7
No, it doesn't
As k--->7-, the argument 7-k approaches 0+
So the ln term grows arbitrarily large
Hence, it is said to be divergent
Ln(0) isnt a number
right
There is no number such that e^(that number)=0
true
As x approaches 0, ln(x) goes to - infinity
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can somebody explain how this happened
Factoring?
wdym
Like, $\frac{1}{4\pi\varepsilon_0}$
print("NAME")
Got factored out, yeeted to zero
Multiply both sides by |r-r1|^3
Wdym factored out could you please explain
let me try
Multiply both sides by $4\pi\epsilon_0$ too then
fukwerint
that works
Yeah, and that should be it
but i want to learn about the factoring thing print name is talking about
how are you using that in here?
Well, both terms are multiplied by $\frac{1}{4\pi\varepsilon}$
print("NAME")
you should. But like, my point is it is currently multiplied by $\frac{1}{4\pi\varepsilon}$
print("NAME")
alright thanks man!
so you can say $\frac{q_1}{4\pi\varepsilon} + \frac{q_2}{4\pi\varepsilon} = \frac{1}{4\pi\varepsilon} (q_1+q_2)$ for example
print("NAME")
we took it common!
yeah, that is the more straightforward way of saying it
I usually call that factoring because you got two things multiply to each other lol
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is (e^x)/x quasi polynomial?
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why does there need to be a space
between the 11 and i
else its wrong
ohh
i figured it out
you can write it like 2i * sqrt(11) too
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trying to represent AC interms of BC or AB
rn all i have is AC-BC=AB
TC = tan(beta)BC
cant find expression for AC
AC = AB + BC
but then to represent AB i still need AC - BC
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Can someone tell me what am i doing wrong here ? So CBB’ is a triangle that has both sides equal
you've mixed up your angles
So since alpha you found is not possible
Then pi-alpha must be the value you are looking for
<AB'B will be the obtuse case
and <ABC the acute case
yeah but idk how i found it that way
hows this even possible though
unit circle, properties of sine
yes
okay but if its the same then what is the matter whether i called B' alpha or π-alpha
like i dont understand its the same thing anyways
sin(alpha) and sin(pi - alpha) are the same
alpha and pi-alpha themselves are different
i think i got it
bc of the acute angle thing we gotta call it π-alpha right
to make sure it AB'B is obtuse we call it π-alpha right?
lets separate these triangles to make it a bit more clear
Yes, assuming your alpha is less than pi/2
i did this as the final btw
before u continue
sorry to interrupt though
am i going right
Yup
How do I denote minute in calculator
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i use desmos, couldnt figure out yet so i am converting it
i did this using desmos, didnt work for me
If an angle is 30 degrees and 40 minutes, then it can be written as 30 + 40/60 ~ 30.67 degrees
alr
Why is the value of sinO coming greater then1 
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Your calculator needs to be in degree mode btw
If its in radian mode then convert the degrees to radians
btw my question is done
i got it right
im closing the chat
thanks for the help yall
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the question says: "sum these 6-bit two's complement binary numbers, indicate whether or not the sum overflow a 6-bit result"
if I have 27 + 31
the result will be 111010
so it's negative
but there's no overflow bit, is this considered an overflow?
i'm not sure
cuz yeah you could argue either way
it didn't overflow "physically" but something bad happened still
no way to guess
i would guess yes
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I am struggling to continue from here
Are you sure f^2 means f(x)f(x) rather than f(f(x))?
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Find the sum of all integer values of the a, for each of which the equation [image] has positive x.
Here's what I did:
n = x.
4ⁿ - 15 × 2ⁿ – 30a + 4a² = 0
2²ⁿ - 15 × 2ⁿ – 30a + 4a² = 0
t = 2ⁿ
t² - 15t – 30a + 4a² = 0
t1 + t2 = 15
t1t2 = 4a² – 30a
D = 225 - 16a² + 120a
t = (–225 ± sqrt(225 – 16a² + 120a))/2
well why set n=x
anyway sure
we need D to be positive or 0
Mathematically, this does not make any sense.
wdym
I can't explain because of a bad translator.
anyway forget the n and x thing. You just need D>=0 in order for the equation to have a solution
I do not know. I want to find all values of a for which x > 0. I don't know how to apply D here.
oh wait i misunderstood the question because of yeah the translation
Ooоо, I got it!
225 ‐ 16a² + 120a >= 0
-16a² + 120a + 225 >= 0
And I don't know what to do next, because solving for a does not work out because of very strange numbers.
alr so is the question that all solutions x should be positive or just one of the solutions must be positive
Ok, I'll think about it later today. I'm busy, so I want to close the chat. Thank you for helping.
well, let me know if you need help, you can ping me
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we go agane
i came across a random comment that gave a procedure to compute floor(sqrt(x)), where x is an integer. "find the highest bit set, left shift 1 half this many bits as the initial value, then few iterations of newtons method, cast to int"
say MSB of x is at pos i, are they choosing n = x << (i / 2) as their initial value? if so is what is the particular reason for this choice?
second, i was wondering what the computational complexities of the nth order householder methods and potra ptaks two step method. i haven't given much thought to this yet but for sufficiently smooth f, first order, newtons, we'll have $x_{n + 1} = x_{n} - \frac{f(x_n)}{f'(x_n)}$ and second order, halleys, $x_{n+1} = x_n - \frac{2f(x_n)f'(x_n)}{2(f'(x_n))^2 - f(x_n)f''(x_n)}$. computationally what exactly is the disctinction? does having fewer functioanl evaluations improve performance?
in potra ptaks two step method, the third order is given by $z_n = x_n - \frac{f(x_n) + f(y_n)}{f'(x_n)}$ where $y_n = x_n - \frac{f(x_n)}{f'(x_n)}$, then perform netwons method to get a method of order four, next rewrite $f(z_n)$ as its taylor series and perform a sequence of substitutions back to get a method of order 8, why exactly does this sequence of substitutions reduce the computational complexity
catgirl pee
woah

if x has for example biggest bit set like 24, then x is roughly size 2^24, so the root would roughly be 2^12
thats a nice name
thank you very much, would you like to become my fan
i am a big fan
right but what is significant about choosing n = x << (i / 2) as the initial guess?
bless, may I become a fan of yours as well
u may

well it will be roughly that size
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Such a weird and creative name...

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I was just intrigued by this name
are you a fan of catgirl pee
yes
true
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Can someone explain what they want me to do when they say to "decide the X matrice"?
$$X \begin{bmatrix}
-5 & 1 & 4 \
6 & 9 & -1 \
2 & -7 & 3
\end{bmatrix}=\begin{bmatrix}
-35 & -23 & 38
\end{bmatrix}$$
Totalani
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that is the original
oh, it's asking you to find the matrix that, when multiplied with the given one, gives you the RHS
so X is essentially $$\begin{bmatrix}
x \
y \
z
\end{bmatrix}$$ and I multiply this in and solve?
Totalani
not quite, but that's the idea
well how would you do it?
you need to make sure the dimensions work
Totalani
no
oh i got it
$$\begin{bmatrix}
x & y & z
\end{bmatrix}$$ has to be this since the answer is this wya
Totalani
yup
one thing I dont get is how I distribute it, I looked at an example in the book but I still dont get it
let me show you
$$XA=\begin{bmatrix}
a & b \
c & d
\end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}
-4 & 2 & 1 \
0 & -3 & -5
\end{bmatrix}=\begin{bmatrix}
-4a & 2a & -3b & a & -5b \
-4c & 2c & -3b & c & -5d
\end{bmatrix}$$
Totalani
??
you can just do regular matrix multiplication
oh
wait
$$\begin{bmatrix}
-5x & x & 4x \
6y & 9y & -y \
2z & -7z & 3z
\end{bmatrix}$$ im clearly doing something wrong
Totalani
the product will be 1 x 3
oh I just understood the example the book shows
I appreciate it, ima rest now beore my head exwplodes
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Can someone explain the reason for the thing they did from 2nd to 3rd line
Well factoring out the 2 simplifies the integrand, and adding and subtracting 2 allowed the split they did in the next equality
So you can make up numbers in the exam or is there a rule to it
Well as long as you add and subtract the same thing it's a valid operation
They chose 2 particularly because of the denominator
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how did you complete the square
say for example
you have x² - 4x
and you know x² - 4x + 4 is (x - 2)²
add 4 and subtract 4 and you have
(x - 2)² - 4
same case for this
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i did a question and i got 2
(
sin(a)sin(90−2a)
R
2
sin(180−2a)
2
sin(90+a)
)
but the answer is R
2
cos
2
(a)tan(2a) are they the same?
(R^2sin(180-2a)^2sin(90+a))/sin(a)*sin(90-2a))/2
but the answer is R^2*cos^2(a)*tan(2a)
are they the same?
@glacial sonnet did you finish watching that episode?
i am just warning your brain will never be the same after this
good thing it's smooth already
do you know how can i write this in the cool way where it shows it normally?
It looks too messy and my eyes hurti
I suppose you should play with some sin angle sum identities
i mean if its the same do i need to that or will my tester accept this
sin(90+a)=cos a right?
Yes
yes to what?
to this?
this?
or this
This
Also sin(180-b)=sin(b)
yeah that 1 ik
is this right?
Yes
Yes
Yes
Look at this graph
i have my finals tommorow are you able to learn with me for a bit?
pls?
Pardon my "straight line"
But clearly the points on the either side of the 90° mark are equal, correct
Therefore sin(90+x)=sin(90-x)
Does that make sense?
so?@lean otter
Whereas for 180° it is also equal in magnitude but different in sign
Therefore sin(180+x)=-sin(180-x)
Does that make sense?
Yes
yay
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What are the elements of Q(pi)? Let E = Q(pi) and F = Q(pi^3). Why is E/F a finite extension? Why is [E : F] = 3?
because E=F(pi). find a minimal polynomial of pi over F
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the elements of Q(pi) look like rational functions with rational coefficients evaluated in pi. similar for Q(pi^3), but evaluated in pi^3
so stuff like pi+17pi^5 or (1-3pi^2)/(pi-32pi^5)
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Can someone help with Question 1 Part D, Question 2 Part A, and B, and Question 3
yeah sorry
1 sec
@fathom jewel Can you see this one clearly?
yeah
,,\lim_{x \to 0} f(2-x^2)
𝔸dωn𝓲²s
yes
yea I agree
ok
I think black dot is defined
yes
2A and 2B
wait so -2 is the answer?
ok first step you already factorized
I believe so
yea
so what does the -x^2 mean
it's basically like a function decomposition I'd say
If g(x) = 3-x² then you would have f(g(x)) here
It said "First step is always direct substitution" yes
i think thats wrong
the question is just what is the first step
idk though
hmm
i felt like it was just factor
wouldnt it be (2)^3 + (2)^2 - 4(2) - 4
/ (2 - 2) (2 + 3)
oh yeah ur right
it would
ok
yea

that's how I interpret A
yea
that's the consequence for B
to simplify things maybe
so that maybe (x-2) may cancel out
in part B?
yea
what cancels in (x+2)(x+1) / (x+3)
oh you did that already
you're fast haha
ok
now Part C is selfexplanatory
direct sub works now
yea i got C right
but im tryna figure out why B was wrong
caps
like uh
what was i supposed to right instead
"what would you show when solving this limit?"
haha ehm
that you can cancel out (x-2) the critical factor?
How were you taught limits
idk how to explain this
I mean like
there is something that has been taught
step-wise
when you were introduced to limits
so maybe there is the answer
just tryna refresh before calc bc next yr
ok good
Q3
tbh i dont really get the question but I have an idea what they might want
I think they are referring to "jumps"
like these
because f(x) = x is continuous so that wouldn't really make sense with instant change but I might be wrong tho
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Any help with finding the base case and recurrence for IN[i] and OUT[i]?
@scarlet comet Has your question been resolved?
you should consider what exactly it is you're tabulating
if you can determine what that is, the base case and recurrance is quite simple
I did some work so far I believe the base cases are the leaves
i also dislike this approach to the tree max path sum problem but iiwii
Not sure about the recurrence
Do you think so too?
yes that is what the base case will be
I think for the in case we just add up the value of the current node along with the in's of the left and right child?
I am not sure about the out case
well
for a given vertex v, out[v] is storing the maximum path sum in v's subtree, where such a path does not contain v itself
what would such a path look like?
^
are you saying we take the maximum of both in cases?
of the children?
actually i have a feeling that we take the max of both in AND out cases
since the in case might not be the max
just tested this on an example input and it's not working either
this doesnt seem simple to me lol
here's a picture
lets say im considering blue vertex's subtree
so blue_left and blue_right
lets say that the orange path is the maximum path sum that in tracks
and red is max path sum tracked by out
uh i should have done something for the right subtree also
we add another ^ right, and yeah that's the issue I was facing too, we can't include the red and the orange at the same time, so it's not simply the parent value + the invalue of both children
sorry i confused myself
that's not what out should look like
one sec
ok here
ok so lets say we cached blue.left and blue.right already
now when we go up a level and look at blue
out[blue.left] is the red path sum
and out[blue.right] is the purple path sum
how would you update out[blue] now
max of in[blue.left], in[blue.right]
and something else
not sure
you'll want to add blue's value as well
???
these should be outs
why do we add blue's value if we are doing out[blue] which excludes the blue vertex
not sure what you mean by this either
if we do max of out[blue.left], out[blue.right]
we would just take the max of those 4 nodes which is unoptimal
the only way i can see a solution to this is if we also consider height
can u explain this?
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Sorry meant out[blues parent] here
For updating the left subtree
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Can someone explain to me how I did this problem wrong? I’m so tired of doing these wrong..
when you multiplied the left side by 2(x-2), you forgot to also multiply the right side by that
not the right fraction, the right side of the equation. you should get $(x-2)(2x+5)-2(3x)=x\color{red}(2)(x-2)\color{black}$
evelyn
you forgot the part in red
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Use the graph to find the solution of the simultaneous equation
whats the problem
The graph one above
its the point where the two things intersect
So it would be 1,2
wrong way around
Ok thanks
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3^5^11^2024! divided by 19 it slike power over power can anyone help me FINDREMAINDER
if I am not mistaken you could use modular exponentiation for this
olympiad question?
Is this from on-going olympiad?
yes
plz explanation
should you not solve this yourself if this is an ongoing competition ?
I am sorry, rn I have no time to go into detail
there is plenty material on this topic on the internet
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mODs
.
Do the olympiad yourself, if you cant do that and you wanna know the solution, come ask once it ends
but you just said it was ongoing
You said it's on-going olympiad
but why say is ongoing
in our country there is no online olympiad all are made to wrrite in classroom
Sorry for the mod ping then
"Ongoing" was from a leading question, and I think the possibility of language barriers leads to enough doubt there.
ok guyz it was my mistake i mistook it
alr, do you know about fermats little theorem then?
Alright, so from that we know that 3^18 = 1 (mod 19)
ya
so it might be useful to find 5^11^2024! mod 18
yep
now how do u like simplify the powers'
that is the challenge then only we can get an indea
its power over power
You've already simplified it somewhat -- now you have a tower of height 3 instead of one of height 4.
ya so 2024 fac ends in 0
can we fins the rm for 3 power 5'
then power 11
and then power 2024 fac
No.
The power tower is supposed to be understood as 3^(5^(11^(2024!)))).
That's why Meth said you now need to find 5^11^2024! modulo 18 (rather than modulo 19).
This is a power tower problem again, but it's shorter than the one we started with, so we're making progress.
The modulus is now 18, which is not a prime, so we turn to Euler's theorem instead of Fermat's little, but otherwise the next step goes just as before.
And since you've been responding just "ya" and "yep" to Meth's and my explanations, I know that you understood that first step perfectly, so you should be able to go the rest of the way for yourself.
I'm really sorry, my parents called me so i had to go for a moment (thanks for taking over tropo)
this is the euler's theorem, fermats little theorem is a special case of it.
Apply it and you'll get power tower of height 2, then just continue like this until you get to the top
@lean otter Has your question been resolved?
iam not abl eto simplify the tower
tahts the issue
u dont get it top
whtever u told at first it was basic that swhy i told ye ya
i also did those steps
when u solve it fully there s many issues
try an say if u feel it sthat easy
I did try it :]
So what's your current progress?
You here @lean otter
The idea is to continuously get smaller and smaller towers
then build up the tower back by back-substituting
ping me once you come
Alright
So
3^18 = 1 (mod 19)
we know that 5^11^2024! could be written as 18k + l
and then it would simplify to 3^(18k + l) mod 19
but that's just 3^l mod 19
so good idea would be to find the l, such that 5^11^2024! = 18k + l
but that's just 5^11^2024! mod 18
so we reduced the problem of finding 3^5^11^2024! mod 19 to finding 5^11^2024! mod 18
now we shall reduce it again
so note that 5^6 = 1 (mod 18)
because of euler's theorem
now we can apply same argument
5^(6k + l) = 5^l (mod 18)
so it suffices to find 11^2024! mod 6
...
ill let you do this one yourself
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i sew thanks u very much
git it
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If i want to see what percent bigger 2.43 billion acres is than 60,000,000 acres how would i do that
Is this simple
division with big numbers
I think I have discalcula So my brains always fuzzy with math even though i really like it.
Thanks
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Why when working with % it’s always given 2 places after decimal place, e.g. 31.98%?
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