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fossil jewel
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yeah

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no wait

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3/2 x

lone arch
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Ok, but then there is a -x on the left still

fossil jewel
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gotta add that x

lone arch
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Exactly

fossil jewel
lone arch
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Then $- \frac 2 3 x + y + \frac 2 3 x = -4 + \frac 2 3 x$ and so $y = - 4 + \frac 2 3 x$

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obsidian ginkgo
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|| Do it again on pen and paper after you are done doing it here ||

fossil jewel
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yeah

lone arch
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So we added 2/3 x on both sides.

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Yep

fossil jewel
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Now how do i graph it?

lone arch
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So pick for example x = 0 and x = 3

fossil jewel
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Ok

lone arch
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Draw in the two points, connect and you are done

fossil jewel
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Wait

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what about Y

lone arch
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Well, I'm saying find the y value corresponding to x = 0 and x = 3, then draw in the points

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Just like you did before

fossil jewel
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Ok

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I'm confused

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-1, 0, 1

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Can i use those?

lone arch
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Sure

fossil jewel
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wiat a minute

lone arch
fossil jewel
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0 and 3

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(0, -1)

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and (3, 1)

lone arch
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fossil jewel
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Ok

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y = -4 + 2/3x

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2/3 can be graphed, right?

lone arch
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What do you mean?

fossil jewel
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wait

lone arch
fossil jewel
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OHHHHH

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i'm an idiot

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i'm such an idiot

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y = -4 + 2/3x can be graphed as (-4, 0)'

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and THEN

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From (-4, 0), you go up 2 and over 3

lone arch
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Yes, one possibility

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But (0, -4) it should be

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Alternatively, just graph any two points

fossil jewel
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Ok that's how i was tought how to do it

lone arch
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And connect them

fossil jewel
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Thank you

lone arch
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np

fossil jewel
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I might be back later

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to annoy you further for more help

lone arch
# fossil jewel I might be back later

You can close and open a new channel then, since if you keep it open, it will go down the channel list and you'll have to wait longer for someone to respond later

fossil jewel
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Ok

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Bye for now 👋

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fossil jewel
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Bye!

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abstract halo
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hello

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i put -2.5 on the graph

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and then pi/2 right?

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because you divide 2pi/4

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which gets you pi/2

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but when i put it on here

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its wrong

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or when i put it like this its wrong

visual kraken
# abstract halo

This one has more of the right idea, but it has a couple issues still

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Can you tell me when sin(x) = 0?

abstract halo
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it only has vertical lines

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so it touches 0

visual kraken
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I'm not sure what you mean, are you confusing sin and tan?

abstract halo
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it looks like this

visual kraken
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Oooh I see, desmos is interpreting that as "Put a line at every value of x where sin(x) = 0"

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Can you just put in sin(x), no equal sign, and look for where the curve crosses the x-axis?

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It will be at all the places the graph you just made has a verticle line

abstract halo
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crosses the x axis?

visual kraken
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Yeah

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At all those points the curve crosses the x axis

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So sin(0) = 0, and also sin(pi) = 0

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So, if f(x) = -2.5sin(4x), can you try to evaluate f(0) for me?

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Try to do it without a calculator, but if you get stuck you can use one

abstract halo
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uhhh well if f(0) then wouldnt it be 2.5sin (4x)?

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i mean its a point no?

abstract halo
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would this also apply to this question

visual kraken
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Yes it would, but f(0) = -2.5sin(4*0), so can you evaluate -2.5sin(4*0) for me?

abstract halo
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i only know how to evaluate this (4 x 0)

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i think you put 2pi/4 = 2pi/2

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but that would be pi?

visual kraken
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Hmm, well -2.5sin(4x0) = -2.5sin(0) yeah?

visual kraken
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So -2.5sin(0) = -2.5 x 0 = 0

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Does that make sense?

abstract halo
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yes

visual kraken
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Or rather, how it contradicts that graph?

abstract halo
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would i have to put a point in 0?

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since -2.5sin(0)

visual kraken
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Yeah at (0,0)

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I should note that having the graph go up to 2.5 and down to -2.5 like that graph does is correct

abstract halo
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i think what throws me off is this

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like where do i put the point where all my x-axis numbers are at

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i know where 1.5 is at

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but i was taught that 2pi/2 - that you simplify it

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not multiply it and get 4

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like what? where did you get pi/4

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i thought it would just be pi

visual kraken
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Okay okay I see where you're confused, this is a totally fair misunderstanding

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So, -1.5sin(x) will be -1.5 when x = pi/2 yeah?

abstract halo
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yes

visual kraken
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Well then -1.5sin(2x) will be -1.5 when 2x = pi/2

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Which is the same as x = (pi/2)/2 = pi/4

abstract halo
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oh

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but i thought you simplified it

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my prof wrote this and i took it as, oh she made it more simple!

visual kraken
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Yeah that's a correct thing to do, I think you might be having a misunderstanding about arithmetic stuff

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Can you pull up desmos for me again?

abstract halo
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yes

visual kraken
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Make a variable called a and put in the curve sin(ax), then experiment with different values of a

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You'll see as a gets bigger the waves will get shorter, and as a gets smaller the waves will get longer

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Out of curiosity, are you familiar with how a + f(x + b) changes the curve drawn by f(x)?

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Like, 2 + f(x) will move the curve drawn by f(x) up by 2, but f(x + 2) will move the curve left by 2 instead of right?

abstract halo
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i know 2 is the period?

visual kraken
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Right, so multiplication works similarily. 2*f(x) will make the curve double in height, but f(2x) will make it halve in length

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Since it only takes 2x half as long to reach the same values as just x

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Does that make sense at all?

abstract halo
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so if there was (2x+4) it would be longer?

visual kraken
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I don't believe so, if I'm understanding you right

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Hmm, okay let's go back to the sin wave stuff

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So -1.5sin(pi/2) will equal -1.5 right?

abstract halo
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yes

visual kraken
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So what will -1.5sin(2 * (pi/4)) be?

abstract halo
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i think so...

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wouldnt it be pi/4 alone?

visual kraken
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Well if f(x) = -1.5sin(2x) then f(pi/4) = -1.5sin(2 * pi/4)

abstract halo
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oh theyre the same thing

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yes

visual kraken
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Can you evaluate it for me?

abstract halo
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2 x pi/4 = pi/2

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2 goes into 4 once by itself and gives you pi/2?

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im confused ):

visual kraken
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Yeah, so -1.5sin(2 * pi/4) = -1.5sin(pi/2) = -1.5

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Does that make sense at all?

abstract halo
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yes

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they are the same

visual kraken
abstract halo
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yes

visual kraken
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Cool!

visual kraken
abstract halo
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i cant

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it doesnt allow me to do that question but i asked for a different one

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and i figured it out a while ago

visual kraken
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Okay then, do you still need/want help?

abstract halo
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no

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you did more than enough help

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thank you NotABot (:

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I appreciate your time.

visual kraken
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Glad to hear it! 😄

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No problem, I'm happy to help

abstract halo
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Im gonna close it now

visual kraken
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Alright, see ya later

abstract halo
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Thank you NotABot (:

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trim swan
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Have you given it a shot?

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They're basically just asking you to do the substitution you identified in the first part

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@fierce silo

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trim swan
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well that's part of it

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You need to substitute u for what you identified as u in the original integral

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and also differentiate it to find an expression for du

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@fierce silo

fierce silo
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whatdoes that mean

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would it just become 14x/2?

trim swan
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Well you have $\int \frac{x}{(7x^2+8)^5} dx$

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tatpoj

trim swan
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If you take $u = 7x^2 + 8$, do you see that you could rewrite your integral as $\int \frac{x}{u^5}dx$ ?

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tatpoj

fierce silo
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yes

trim swan
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but then you also need to replace the "x dx" with something in terms of u and du

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so that's where you would take the derivative

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if u = 7x^2+8, what is du/dx?

fierce silo
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derivitive of x/u^5?

trim swan
fierce silo
trim swan
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just the derivative

fierce silo
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oh okay so it is 14x/2?

trim swan
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Actually just 14x

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You just multiply by the exponent, and then decrease the exponent by 1

fierce silo
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ugh i keep getting it confused with the other thing

trim swan
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integrating, yeah, it takes a little while to get it sorted in your head when you're first learning it

fierce silo
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okay but yes 14x makes sense and we get rid of the Constant

trim swan
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yeah so du/dx = 14x

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which we can write as du = 14x dx

fierce silo
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okay

trim swan
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and in your integral you have x dx

trim swan
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and substitute that into your integral as well, so you only have u, and not x

fierce silo
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im a little confused we have 1/14du = x dx but how do we just get rid of x do we just find the derivitive of x

trim swan
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the 1/14 just comes from

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du/dx = 14x
du = 14x dx (multiplied both sides by dx)
(1/14)du = x dx (divided both sides by 14)

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This is how you get rid of the x in the numerator of your integral

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replace x dx with (1/14) du

fierce silo
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ok so it woukd be (1/14du)/7x^2+8?

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or do we keep the ^5

trim swan
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keep the ^5, it didn't go anywhere

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and remember 7x^2+8 is u

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You need to only have u, no x

fierce silo
fierce silo
trim swan
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You've got the right idea but

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Well, the du shouldn't be in the denominator of that fraction

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but actually for this problem, you shouldn't have the du at all

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because they provided it already

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They're just asking you for the f(u) part, the du is already there

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so $\frac{\frac{1}{14}}{u^5}$ or $\frac{1}{14u^5}$ is what you want

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tatpoj

fierce silo
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arent those diffeent tho

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are do they = the same

trim swan
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$\frac{\frac{1}{14}}{u^5} = \frac{1}{14} \cdot \frac{1}{u^5} = \frac{1}{14u^5}$

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tatpoj

fierce silo
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thank you for explaining that

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devout steeple
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i don't know how you would start this

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devout steeple
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solving for x

glass carbon
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substitution

ocean crypt
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Write everything in base 3

glass carbon
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or the thing above

devout steeple
narrow ridge
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Let $y=3^x$ as Modus suggested (substitution)

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ocean crypt
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on the left, write 7 as 3 raised to the base 3 logarithm of 7

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And then highlight 3^x

devout steeple
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hmm idk what to do after this

ocean crypt
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You also have the other 3^x

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You should do something like this

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$3^x*(....)$

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BobTheBuilder

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Potatomonke

ocean crypt
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On the left at the end of the simplifications you should find $3^{x+2}$

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BobTheBuilder

devout steeple
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everything is in base3

ocean crypt
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Why did a 3^x disappear?

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Wait

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But what do you mean by 7(3^x)?

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If you mean multiplication, above the last thing you wrote we are missing 3^x which multiplies the first factor

devout steeple
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yeah it is just multiplication

devout steeple
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is there a rule for simplifying 3^x + 3^x + 3^x

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this question is making me mad 😭

lime dust
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Don’t you like 3(3^x)?

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Althougj u dont have that

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In left side u have 9(3^x)

devout steeple
lime dust
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And in right he side

devout steeple
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how would 9(3^x) simplify to 3^(x+2)

lime dust
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You are multiplying one 9(3^x)

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So you can divide both sides by 9(3^x)

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Having 1 = 9^x(27(3^x))

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Now equation is mich shorter

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I have to leave now, u can finish this for sure

devout steeple
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9^x(27(3^x)) = 1
27(27^x) = 1
i guess that simplifies to 27^(x+1) = 1

so x = -1

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yeah thats right

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i hate algebra

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thank you @lime dust

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dull heron
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Can someone give a starting point as to where i can begin, i marked everything out but i dont know what to prove

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summer crow
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,rotate

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summer crow
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@dull heron
Hint 1: notice that both AED and EBC are triangles, and the sum of angles of each triangle is 180 degree.
Hint 2: define an arbitrary angle, e.g. let the angle AED be $\theta$, and try work out the angle BEC, and thus ECB in terms of $\theta$

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summer crow
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and $\angle DEC = 90$ degree

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summer crow
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so what should $\angle BEC$ be?

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dull heron
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angle bec = 90*

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wait no

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beta

summer crow
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beta?

dull heron
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idk what its called

summer crow
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we don't want to define more arbitrary angles

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one is enough

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just do all remaning angles in terms of theta

dull heron
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theta is what i meant mb

summer crow
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why would BEC be theta?

dull heron
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angle bec?

summer crow
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yes

dull heron
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so they are both equal to 90 degrees split?

summer crow
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why?

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what do you know about total angles on a horizontal line?

dull heron
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equal to 180

summer crow
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right

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so what should AED + DEC + BEC, which is theta + 90 + BEC equal to?

dull heron
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180

summer crow
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now can you work out BEC in terms of theta

dull heron
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but how does it prove?

summer crow
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just do it

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I'm trying to guide you step by step here since the hints didn't help

dull heron
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this is my working currenrly

summer crow
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if theta + 90 + BEC = 180, can you, by re-arranging the equation, find BEC in terms of theta

dull heron
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so 180-90 - theta = BEC

summer crow
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correct, so simplifying that a bit more, BEC = 90-theta

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now

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the total angles inside a triangle add up to?

dull heron
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180

summer crow
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correct, using this hint, can you figure out what to do to find the angle ECB in terms of theta?

dull heron
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Theta

summer crow
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that's right

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but remember we defined AED to be theta as well at the beginning

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and we've shown that ECB is also theta

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thus AED = ECB as required.

dull heron
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alr thanks

summer crow
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np

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can anyone help me with algebra 2 please

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hioi

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thank you!

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# lean otter thank you!

Well, in this manner, a
quadratic correlation graph
represents a relationship between two variables where one variable changes as the square of the other.
shaped like a U or an upside-down U and
As the x value increases, the y value initially increases, reaches a maximum or minimum point (depending on the direction of the parabola), and then starts to decrease again

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@median skiff I am confused

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all of that

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What specifically, though

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hey guys, I need help converting r=8cos4 θ into a rectangular equation. my final answer can’t contain √x^2 +y^2 and also to be fully simplified and expanded, AND i have to show all steps 😭

fleet mortar
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ive made it this far correctly i’m pretty sure

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but every attempt i’ve made so far solving it doesn’t line up with the original polar equation

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so im wondering if there’s an alternative way

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granite idol
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can't you just solve for r, change that to sqrt(x^2 + y^2), and square both sides?

exotic bolt
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Ye it doesn’t make sense why you can’t have x^2 +y^2

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Idk

fleet mortar
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i can’t keep the square root of x^2 + y^2

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so everytime i try and get rid of it my answer comes out incorrect

granite idol
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what's the original question?

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do you have a picture?

fleet mortar
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you can see my attempts 😭

granite idol
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where does it say you can't have sqrt(x^2 + y^2)

fleet mortar
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it’s on my rubric

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lemme show you rq

granite idol
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sorry, I don't know then. your work is right though

fleet mortar
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thanks for trying atleast!

granite idol
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her end result is correct (same as what Wolfram Alpha shows, too)

fleet mortar
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does wolfram alpha show the final answer by any chance?

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and you’re saying the work up until the bottom of my work page is right too?

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if so then i probably just made a mistake expanding!

granite idol
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,w convert r=8cos(4theta) to rectangular coordinates

fleet mortar
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i think i can try working from here

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thank you so much!

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oh and can it show steps

granite idol
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you need to pay I think

fleet mortar
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damn

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that’s okay my work lines up with this answer

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thanks again!

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patent portal
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Construct a power series of the form (x-a)^n/n^p r^n that has an interval of convergence of -2 ≤ x < 10

patent portal
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any help with this

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not sure where to start

severe pond
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do you mean

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(x-a)^n/((n^p)(r^n))

patent portal
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yes

severe pond
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so what would the radius be

patent portal
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so i take the absolute value and divide by 2 right

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6

severe pond
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mhm so what’s the center

patent portal
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4

severe pond
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right so that’s your a

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and your r

patent portal
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p is whats confusing me most i guess

severe pond
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the n^p is irrelevant

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well

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i mean for the radius and center

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because ratio test

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it will always cancel

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now you need to check the endpoints

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so you have (x-4)^n/((n^p)(6^n))

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you know it diverges at 10 yea

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so let x=10

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and then it’s a p-series

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what must p be

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to diverge

patent portal
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greater than 1

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oh

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no

patent portal
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less than one

severe pond
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or equal to

patent portal
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yea

severe pond
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and the -2 will be alternating

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so you can choose any 0<p<=1

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this makes sense yea

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cause 1/n satisfies ast

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well yea lim n-> inf (an)=0 and an+1<an

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for p values in that range

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ok

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makes sense

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just gotta show all that work

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mhm

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so i should show r and a then how should i show the work for p?

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ratio test on the endpoints right

severe pond
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i don’t think you need ratio test

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it’s p series test

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for endpoints

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just let x=the endpoints

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then evaluate the two series

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ok ima right this out and lemmer know if u think its enough

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Let me know if there is a better way to show this work

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5-7 odd

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plz help

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what have you tried

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is anyone able to explain what on earth happens when they introduce fg

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completely lost me there

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under where it says prop 2.10?

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yeah

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The first equality, just simplify the RHS and you'll see you end up with fg

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then the second equality, s(x) = x^2 so they're just rewriting the 3 terms of the LHS using that composition

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Then the apply what they argued in the first paragraph of the proof

trail igloo
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so if I just expand the 2nd equality it should just be the same aswell?

glacial sonnet
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yes

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i know it sounds silly because obviously

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look at what s is

trail igloo
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although it seems as if its popped out of nowhere

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s(x) = x^2

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so

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s(f+g) = (f+g)^2

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s(f) = f^2, s(g) = g^2

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oh oh oh

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i get you now

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i was overthinking it

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thanks

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Is it possible to find the value of alpha in degrees?

knotty pier
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calculator prolly

torn patio
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I see

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but I don't understand the graphs

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Also what is n

knotty pier
torn patio
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What's the value?

knotty pier
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n can be any integer

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as tanx is periodic

torn patio
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What does that mean?

knotty pier
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periodic means

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uh idk how to explain

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periodic basically means the graph repeats

torn patio
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happening in regular intervals?

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nvm

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yea

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right

torn patio
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oh

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let's go

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I still don't know what that means for graphs

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tht means

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value tanx

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at x=a and x=a+pi

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is same

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and so on

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so tanx is same for x=a,a+pi,a+2pi,...

torn patio
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how though

knotty pier
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its the property of the function

torn patio
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how can x = a and a+pi

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good thing I didn't select mathematics for higher studies

knotty pier
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maths can be interesting

torn patio
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Biology ftw

knotty pier
torn patio
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Idk what any of that means

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I will just leave it as tan inverse(1/10)

knotty pier
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u do not have expanation for tht

torn patio
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teacher says that is fine

knotty pier
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mhm

torn patio
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but I wanted to know the value of degree

knotty pier
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which class are u in?

torn patio
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11th

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I wanted to know the degree to see the direction of resultant'

knotty pier
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torn patio
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I don't have mathematics

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I didn't opt for it

knotty pier
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oh

torn patio
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glad I didn't

knotty pier
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makes sense

torn patio
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I have Physics though

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thts y u dont get it

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I see

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Thanks for trying to explain this to me though

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Can someone please help me with question c

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it uses the previous parts of Level 2 question 1

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Find the number of selections of 4 letters from the word S P E C I E S

leaden glade
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if its selections does it mean i use

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perms or combs

silent bramble
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should be combs

knotty pier
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selection combinations

leaden glade
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wait so

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would it just be

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6c4

knotty pier
leaden glade
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oops

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i missed that one

knotty pier
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mhm

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no wait

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actually for selecting

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it is 6C4 only

leaden glade
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wait

knotty pier
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thts right

leaden glade
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wait is it

knotty pier
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yes

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if u wanted to shuffle u need to change

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u r basically selecting

leaden glade
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wait i dont rly understnad tho

knotty pier
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so 6C4

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how do i account for the

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doubles

knotty pier
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fine take a word like AABB

leaden glade
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yeahh

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number of selections of 2 letters is

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4C2

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oh

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yes...

knotty pier
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yep

leaden glade
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wait

knotty pier
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but

leaden glade
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its selections right

knotty pier
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yes

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so its how many different ways can i reaarange

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wouldnt it be

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AB

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AA

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BB

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yes

leaden glade
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isnt that 3

knotty pier
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im saying

leaden glade
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oh

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sorry

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yeah

knotty pier
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yes 4C2 for selecting

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and then

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u remove unwanted

leaden glade
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and then

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um

knotty pier
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AB same as BA

leaden glade
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how do u remove the

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unwanted

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wait a sec

leaden glade
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okkokk

knotty pier
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yea u cant do tht

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u gotta consider cases

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mb

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like

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for ur q

leaden glade
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yeahh

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so uh what would i do then

knotty pier
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SPECIES

leaden glade
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yep

silent bramble
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wait but they didnt say different selections

knotty pier
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u shld consider

silent bramble
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so u dont need to right

leaden glade
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so there is 2 doubles

knotty pier
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4 different

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2 diff 2 same

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2 same 2 same

leaden glade
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yeah

knotty pier
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so 4 diff means

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u got S P E C I

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choose 4 in how many ways?

leaden glade
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wait

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isnt it

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3 diff

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oh wait

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nvm

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im tripping

knotty pier
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how do u get 3 diff 1 same lol

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yea happens

leaden glade
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wait

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wait wdym again

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im a bit lost

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so its

knotty pier
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alr

leaden glade
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PCI

knotty pier
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lets take simple example

leaden glade
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that is different

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and then u got

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2 S

knotty pier
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mhm

leaden glade
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wait

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2 E

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i mean

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so its PCI , 2S, 2E

knotty pier
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yes

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so for selecting all different ones

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u consider one of those 2

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so P C I S E

leaden glade
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oh...

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alr...

knotty pier
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wait lemme start from beginning

leaden glade
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okok

knotty pier
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with a simple example

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consider the word ABBCC

leaden glade
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yep

knotty pier
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u need to choose 2 letters ok?

leaden glade
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yep

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so the possibilities are

leaden glade
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AB BC BB CC AC

knotty pier
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both different and both same

knotty pier
leaden glade
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oh okok

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yes

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sure

knotty pier
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ok

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so for both diff

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u need to choose 2 from

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ABC

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right?

leaden glade
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ohh yes

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so thats 3c2

knotty pier
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yes so 3C2 ways

leaden glade
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yep

knotty pier
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yep

leaden glade
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gotchu

knotty pier
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so now both same

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so u can either choose B or C

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agreed?

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um

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yes

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okok

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so tht will be 2 ways

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BB and CC

leaden glade
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so thats

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2c2

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and 2c2

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yes?

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yes

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so total will be?

leaden glade
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3c2 + 2c2 + 2c2

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is

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5

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which is also what i got when i brute forced it

knotty pier
leaden glade
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yeah

knotty pier
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yes

leaden glade
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cool

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okok

knotty pier
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so now onto our question

leaden glade
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yep

knotty pier
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SPECIES

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wht are the possibilities?

leaden glade
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so its

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choose 4

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so um

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u can have SPECI

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for the all different

knotty pier
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yes

leaden glade
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then u can have

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2 same 2 diff

knotty pier
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yes

leaden glade
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and then 2 same 2 same

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yes

leaden glade
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and um for 2same 2diff i have 2 options for that one right

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cos it could be like

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SS CI or EE CI

knotty pier
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yes

leaden glade
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okok

knotty pier
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and u missed P tho

leaden glade
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missed p

knotty pier
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ok so in 2 diff 2 same case

leaden glade
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yes

knotty pier
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for 2 same u can either choose

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E or S

leaden glade
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yes

knotty pier
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assume u chose E

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then u can choose rest 2 from?

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SPCI agreed?

leaden glade
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wait

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go again this is for

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is this for 2 same 2same

knotty pier
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nop

leaden glade
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oh

knotty pier
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2 diff 2 same

leaden glade
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2same 2 diff

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oh ok

knotty pier
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assume 2 same u chose E

leaden glade
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yep

knotty pier
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then u can choose rest 2 from SPCI

leaden glade
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oh yes

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correct

knotty pier
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assume u chose S then rest 2 u can choose from IPEC

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both have 4C2 ways

leaden glade
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wait

knotty pier
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mhm

leaden glade
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chose I ?

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wouldnt it be S

knotty pier
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oops sry

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S

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yes

leaden glade
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okok

knotty pier
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both have 4C2 ie 6 ways

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now for both same

leaden glade
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4c2

knotty pier
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u choose S and E

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so only 1

leaden glade
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wait its 4c2 cos i have 2 remaingin spots

knotty pier
leaden glade
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and 4 things to choose it from

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okok

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gotchu

knotty pier
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ok for same and same only 1

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cuz u need four and u have 4

leaden glade
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oh yes

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okok

knotty pier
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yep add all those up

leaden glade
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so 4c4

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so its

knotty pier
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yes

leaden glade
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4c4 + 4c2 + 4c2 + 5c4 ?

knotty pier
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yes

leaden glade
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ohhh okok

knotty pier
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mhm

leaden glade
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um i got 18

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okok

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i dont even have the naswers for this but ill tryt o find it

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😭😭

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but thank u very much

knotty pier
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no problem!

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just go through it again so ull have the clarity

leaden glade
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okokok

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thank u very much

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.close

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npp

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I’m not sure how to do this question. Can someone help me.

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see what happens

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it has to identical to 0

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^and this is the same concept @stoic sage

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Cubic as in the one with in the one with inflection??

summer crow
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for part b

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Or like a polynomial graph with many intersecting points

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this is a cubic

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yeah

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but both are cubic

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exactly

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3 max

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does d = k

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yup

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but how do i find the values of a b and c

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ok

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oh wait

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then a b c equal 0

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why?

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because they all have to be 0 for k to be equal to d?

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is it?

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correct

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the way to think about it

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is that a cubic can intersect a horizontal line at most 3 times

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so it can't be a cubic

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then we go down to quadratic

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but same logic, where a quadratic intersects a horizontal line at most 2 times

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so b = 0

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down to linear

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same logic

stoic sage
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oohh

summer crow
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therefore the only possibility is that the curve is just a flat line

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and it is the only line y=k

stoic sage
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oh okay

summer crow
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and it intersects itself infinitely many times

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well i was referring to the first question

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part a

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but yeah part b follows the same logic

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chat

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am I correct

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does that say 2 < pi/4

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uh yeah the 2 < pi/4 is probably more crucial to address first

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oh i didn't even realise lmao

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im not sure how to do this question, can someone help me

spice wing
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Hey

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I may try to help but im not sure if i can reach the solution , is it okay ?

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@stoic sage ?

pure arch
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points where slope = 0?

spice wing
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See it says stationary at alpha = á and beta = b stationary

stoic sage
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well i derivatived it twice and gor to 6x+2a

spice wing
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So f'(a) = f'(b) = 0

stoic sage
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whats the f'b and f'a?

spice wing
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f'(x) = dy/dx

pure arch
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a should be alpha

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i believe

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and b should be beta

spice wing
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It is

stoic sage
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ooh okay

spice wing
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f'(x) = 3x² + 2ax + b

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Now alpha beta satisfy this equation

pure arch
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yup

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so alpha is one rooot and beta is another root

spice wing
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Let alpha = u and beta = k okk ?

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So 3u² + 2au + b = 0 and 3k²+2ak + b = 0

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Point of inflection will be the point where f'(c) and f''(c) both will be 0

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Where c is the point of inflection

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f''(x) = 6x + 2a

pure arch
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they're both solutions

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to the same equation

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essentially

spice wing
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If f''(x) = 0 , then x = -2a/6

spice wing
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k + u = -2a/3

spice wing
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So if we equate we get f''(x) is 0 at k+u/2

pure arch
spice wing
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That is required to proof

summer crow
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Here's a hint for you guys: the turning point/vertex of a quadratic is halfway between its roots

stoic sage
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like why is it a plus

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ooh

spice wing
pure arch
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yeah

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but k and u are just alpha and beta

spice wing
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Yeah

pure arch
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so alpha + beta = -2a/3 = 2x

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since x = -a/3

spice wing
stoic sage
spice wing
spice wing
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But still it would require proof

stoic sage
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for sum of roots, alpha plus beta equal -b/a. why is -2a/3 the -b/a?

spice wing
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3x² + 2ax + b = 0

stoic sage
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yeah

spice wing
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Alpha beta are roots

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So alpha + beta = -2a/3

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where 3 is the coefficient of x² and -2a coefficient of x

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Ok ?

stoic sage
stoic sage
spice wing
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If f''(x) = 0 , then x = -2a/6

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And k + u = -2a/3

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So clearly k + u = 2x from this equations

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ooh

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i get it now thank you

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Welcome!

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sonic rampart
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how do i solve b) ??

vagrant ice
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So g(x) = f(2x) = 5 (2 sin(3 * 2x) + 4) = 10 sin 6x + 20

sonic rampart
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ohh

vagrant ice
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Now the 6x is irrelevant to the range

sonic rampart
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I made mistake

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Yeah so you should remember what the min and max values of sin x are

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i didnt mutiply 5 to 4

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And then sub in

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ok

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yesyes

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How to find the limit value for this equation?