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Ok, but then there is a -x on the left still
gotta add that x
.
Then $- \frac 2 3 x + y + \frac 2 3 x = -4 + \frac 2 3 x$ and so $y = - 4 + \frac 2 3 x$
Kepe
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yeah
Now how do i graph it?
One possibility would be to pick any two points. This will be a straight line so you can just connect those two points and you are done
So pick for example x = 0 and x = 3
Ok
Draw in the two points, connect and you are done
Well, I'm saying find the y value corresponding to x = 0 and x = 3, then draw in the points
Just like you did before
Sure
wiat a minute
I just suggested 3 so you get a nice value
You mean (0, -4)
Kepe
What do you mean?
wait
Do you agree with this?
OHHHHH
i'm an idiot
i'm such an idiot
y = -4 + 2/3x can be graphed as (-4, 0)'
and THEN
From (-4, 0), you go up 2 and over 3
Yes, one possibility
But (0, -4) it should be
Alternatively, just graph any two points
Ok that's how i was tought how to do it
And connect them
Thank you
np
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hello
i put -2.5 on the graph
and then pi/2 right?
because you divide 2pi/4
which gets you pi/2
but when i put it on here
its wrong
or when i put it like this its wrong
This one has more of the right idea, but it has a couple issues still
Can you tell me when sin(x) = 0?
I'm not sure what you mean, are you confusing sin and tan?
Oooh I see, desmos is interpreting that as "Put a line at every value of x where sin(x) = 0"
Can you just put in sin(x), no equal sign, and look for where the curve crosses the x-axis?
It will be at all the places the graph you just made has a verticle line
Yeah
At all those points the curve crosses the x axis
So sin(0) = 0, and also sin(pi) = 0
So, if f(x) = -2.5sin(4x), can you try to evaluate f(0) for me?
Try to do it without a calculator, but if you get stuck you can use one
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would this also apply to this question
Yes it would, but f(0) = -2.5sin(4*0), so can you evaluate -2.5sin(4*0) for me?
i only know how to evaluate this (4 x 0)
i think you put 2pi/4 = 2pi/2
but that would be pi?
Hmm, well -2.5sin(4x0) = -2.5sin(0) yeah?
And up here I pointed out that sin(0) = 0
So -2.5sin(0) = -2.5 x 0 = 0
Does that make sense?
yes
Do you see how that relates to this graph?
Or rather, how it contradicts that graph?
Yeah at (0,0)
I should note that having the graph go up to 2.5 and down to -2.5 like that graph does is correct
i think what throws me off is this
like where do i put the point where all my x-axis numbers are at
i know where 1.5 is at
but i was taught that 2pi/2 - that you simplify it
not multiply it and get 4
like what? where did you get pi/4
i thought it would just be pi
Okay okay I see where you're confused, this is a totally fair misunderstanding
So, -1.5sin(x) will be -1.5 when x = pi/2 yeah?
yes
Well then -1.5sin(2x) will be -1.5 when 2x = pi/2
Which is the same as x = (pi/2)/2 = pi/4
oh
but i thought you simplified it
my prof wrote this and i took it as, oh she made it more simple!
Yeah that's a correct thing to do, I think you might be having a misunderstanding about arithmetic stuff
Can you pull up desmos for me again?
Make a variable called a and put in the curve sin(ax), then experiment with different values of a
You'll see as a gets bigger the waves will get shorter, and as a gets smaller the waves will get longer
Out of curiosity, are you familiar with how a + f(x + b) changes the curve drawn by f(x)?
Like, 2 + f(x) will move the curve drawn by f(x) up by 2, but f(x + 2) will move the curve left by 2 instead of right?
im somewhat familar with a+f (x+b)
i know 2 is the period?
yeah
i know about this
Right, so multiplication works similarily. 2*f(x) will make the curve double in height, but f(2x) will make it halve in length
Since it only takes 2x half as long to reach the same values as just x
Does that make sense at all?
so if there was (2x+4) it would be longer?
I don't believe so, if I'm understanding you right
Hmm, okay let's go back to the sin wave stuff
So -1.5sin(pi/2) will equal -1.5 right?
yes
So what will -1.5sin(2 * (pi/4)) be?
Well if f(x) = -1.5sin(2x) then f(pi/4) = -1.5sin(2 * pi/4)
Can you evaluate it for me?
Do you kind of understand how this graph makes sense now?
yes
Cool!
Can you try this one again now?
i cant
it doesnt allow me to do that question but i asked for a different one
and i figured it out a while ago
Okay then, do you still need/want help?
Im gonna close it now
Alright, see ya later
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Have you given it a shot?
They're basically just asking you to do the substitution you identified in the first part
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So I just find the derivative of what I identified as u?
well that's part of it
You need to substitute u for what you identified as u in the original integral
and also differentiate it to find an expression for du
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Well you have $\int \frac{x}{(7x^2+8)^5} dx$
tatpoj
If you take $u = 7x^2 + 8$, do you see that you could rewrite your integral as $\int \frac{x}{u^5}dx$ ?
tatpoj
yes
but then you also need to replace the "x dx" with something in terms of u and du
so that's where you would take the derivative
if u = 7x^2+8, what is du/dx?
derivitive of x/u^5?
not quite, can you answer this?
im not sure
just the derivative
oh okay so it is 14x/2?
Actually just 14x
You just multiply by the exponent, and then decrease the exponent by 1
ugh i keep getting it confused with the other thing
integrating, yeah, it takes a little while to get it sorted in your head when you're first learning it
okay but yes 14x makes sense and we get rid of the Constant
okay
and in your integral you have x dx
so you can divide this by 14 and get (1/14)du = x dx
and substitute that into your integral as well, so you only have u, and not x
im a little confused we have 1/14du = x dx but how do we just get rid of x do we just find the derivitive of x
the 1/14 just comes from
du/dx = 14x
du = 14x dx (multiplied both sides by dx)
(1/14)du = x dx (divided both sides by 14)
This is how you get rid of the x in the numerator of your integral
replace x dx with (1/14) du
keep the ^5, it didn't go anywhere
and remember 7x^2+8 is u
You need to only have u, no x
Did I do it wrong or is the syntax error the issue idk how to get rid of that
You've got the right idea but
Well, the du shouldn't be in the denominator of that fraction
but actually for this problem, you shouldn't have the du at all
because they provided it already
They're just asking you for the f(u) part, the du is already there
so $\frac{\frac{1}{14}}{u^5}$ or $\frac{1}{14u^5}$ is what you want
tatpoj
these are equivalent
$\frac{\frac{1}{14}}{u^5} = \frac{1}{14} \cdot \frac{1}{u^5} = \frac{1}{14u^5}$
tatpoj
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i don't know how you would start this
solving for x
substitution
Write everything in base 3
or the thing above
how would i do that
Let $y=3^x$ as Modus suggested (substitution)
w
on the left, write 7 as 3 raised to the base 3 logarithm of 7
And then highlight 3^x
hmm idk what to do after this
On the left at the end of the simplifications you should find $3^{x+2}$
BobTheBuilder
everything is in base3
Why did a 3^x disappear?
Wait
But what do you mean by 7(3^x)?
If you mean multiplication, above the last thing you wrote we are missing 3^x which multiplies the first factor
yeah it is just multiplication
So this
this is right but i just dont understand how we got there
is there a rule for simplifying 3^x + 3^x + 3^x
this question is making me mad 😭
oh yeah i see that now
And in right he side
how would 9(3^x) simplify to 3^(x+2)
You are multiplying one 9(3^x)
So you can divide both sides by 9(3^x)
Having 1 = 9^x(27(3^x))
Now equation is mich shorter
I have to leave now, u can finish this for sure
okie this is making more sense
9^x(27(3^x)) = 1
27(27^x) = 1
i guess that simplifies to 27^(x+1) = 1
so x = -1
yeah thats right
i hate algebra
thank you @lime dust
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Can someone give a starting point as to where i can begin, i marked everything out but i dont know what to prove
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Hint 1: notice that both AED and EBC are triangles, and the sum of angles of each triangle is 180 degree.
Hint 2: define an arbitrary angle, e.g. let the angle AED be $\theta$, and try work out the angle BEC, and thus ECB in terms of $\theta$
lgkoo
I dont know where to go from there though
let $\angle AED = \theta$
lgkoo
and $\angle DEC = 90$ degree
lgkoo
so what should $\angle BEC$ be?
lgkoo
beta?
idk what its called
we don't want to define more arbitrary angles
one is enough
just do all remaning angles in terms of theta
theta is what i meant mb
why would BEC be theta?
angle bec?
yes
so they are both equal to 90 degrees split?
equal to 180
180
now can you work out BEC in terms of theta
but how does it prove?
everything is right, except BEC is not theta
if theta + 90 + BEC = 180, can you, by re-arranging the equation, find BEC in terms of theta
so 180-90 - theta = BEC
correct, so simplifying that a bit more, BEC = 90-theta
now
the total angles inside a triangle add up to?
180
correct, using this hint, can you figure out what to do to find the angle ECB in terms of theta?
Theta
that's right
but remember we defined AED to be theta as well at the beginning
and we've shown that ECB is also theta
thus AED = ECB as required.
alr thanks
np
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can anyone help me with algebra 2 please
well hello again
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thank you!
Well, in this manner, a
quadratic correlation graph
represents a relationship between two variables where one variable changes as the square of the other.
shaped like a U or an upside-down U and
As the x value increases, the y value initially increases, reaches a maximum or minimum point (depending on the direction of the parabola), and then starts to decrease again
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@median skiff I am confused
On what exactly?
all of that
What specifically, though
That's what I'm sayin
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hey guys, I need help converting r=8cos4 θ into a rectangular equation. my final answer can’t contain √x^2 +y^2 and also to be fully simplified and expanded, AND i have to show all steps 😭
ive made it this far correctly i’m pretty sure
but every attempt i’ve made so far solving it doesn’t line up with the original polar equation
so im wondering if there’s an alternative way
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can't you just solve for r, change that to sqrt(x^2 + y^2), and square both sides?
i can’t keep the square root of x^2 + y^2
so everytime i try and get rid of it my answer comes out incorrect
where does it say you can't have sqrt(x^2 + y^2)
sorry, I don't know then. your work is right though
thanks for trying atleast!
her end result is correct (same as what Wolfram Alpha shows, too)
does wolfram alpha show the final answer by any chance?
and you’re saying the work up until the bottom of my work page is right too?
if so then i probably just made a mistake expanding!
,w convert r=8cos(4theta) to rectangular coordinates
you need to pay I think
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Construct a power series of the form (x-a)^n/n^p r^n that has an interval of convergence of -2 ≤ x < 10
yes
so what would the radius be
mhm so what’s the center
4
p is whats confusing me most i guess
the n^p is irrelevant
well
i mean for the radius and center
because ratio test
it will always cancel
now you need to check the endpoints
so you have (x-4)^n/((n^p)(6^n))
you know it diverges at 10 yea
so let x=10
and then it’s a p-series
what must p be
to diverge
no
less than one
or equal to
yea
cause 1/n satisfies ast
mhm
so i should show r and a then how should i show the work for p?
ratio test on the endpoints right
i don’t think you need ratio test
it’s p series test
for endpoints
just let x=the endpoints
then evaluate the two series
ok ima right this out and lemmer know if u think its enough
Let me know if there is a better way to show this work
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what have you tried
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is anyone able to explain what on earth happens when they introduce fg
completely lost me there
under where it says prop 2.10?
yeah
The first equality, just simplify the RHS and you'll see you end up with fg
then the second equality, s(x) = x^2 so they're just rewriting the 3 terms of the LHS using that composition
Then the apply what they argued in the first paragraph of the proof
so if I just expand the 2nd equality it should just be the same aswell?
yes
i know it sounds silly because obviously
look at what s is
although it seems as if its popped out of nowhere

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Is it possible to find the value of alpha in degrees?
calculator prolly
some integer
What's the value?
What does that mean?
tht means
value tanx
at x=a and x=a+pi
is same
and so on
so tanx is same for x=a,a+pi,a+2pi,...
how though
its the property of the function
maths can be interesting
Biology ftw
that is the property of function
u do not have expanation for tht
teacher says that is fine
mhm
but I wanted to know the value of degree
which class are u in?
principal value is when n=0 and for any other n value, u say general
oh alr ull be learning tht stuff in trignometric equations chapter
oh
glad I didn't
makes sense
I have Physics though
thts y u dont get it
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Can someone please help me with question c
it uses the previous parts of Level 2 question 1
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Find the number of selections of 4 letters from the word S P E C I E S
should be combs
selection combinations
there are 2S and 2E
wait
thts right
wait is it
wait i dont rly understnad tho
so 6C4
fine take a word like AABB
yeahh
yep
wait
but
its selections right
yes
yes
isnt that 3
im saying
AB same as BA
wait a sec
okkokk
SPECIES
wait but they didnt say different selections
u shld consider
so u dont need to right
so there is 2 doubles
yeah
alr
PCI
lets take simple example
mhm
wait lemme start from beginning
okok
yep
u need to choose 2 letters ok?
yep
so the possibilities are
AB BC BB CC AC
both different and both same
we are doing it in p and c way
.
ok
so for both diff
u need to choose 2 from
ABC
right?
yes so 3C2 ways
yep
yep
gotchu
u got 5 here yep
yeah
yes
so now onto our question
yep
yes
yes
and then 2 same 2 same
yes
and um for 2same 2diff i have 2 options for that one right
cos it could be like
SS CI or EE CI
yes
okok
and u missed P tho
missed p
ok so in 2 diff 2 same case
yes
yes
nop
oh
2 diff 2 same
assume 2 same u chose E
yep
then u can choose rest 2 from SPCI
wait
mhm
okok
4c2
wait its 4c2 cos i have 2 remaingin spots
yes
yep add all those up
yes
4c4 + 4c2 + 4c2 + 5c4 ?
yes
ohhh okok
mhm
um i got 18
okok
i dont even have the naswers for this but ill tryt o find it
😭😭
but thank u very much
npp
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I’m not sure how to do this question. Can someone help me.
draw a cubic and try drawing a horizontal line through it
see what happens
Can you send previous part as well
Yeah I didn’t see it was a part b but I don’t think it has anything to do with part a. (Maybe?)
no relevance, like mqnic suggested sketch a cubic with two turning points, and think about a horizontal line crossing it
how does a quadratic have 3 zeroes
It doesn't that's the point
it has to identical to 0
^and this is the same concept @stoic sage
Cubic as in the one with in the one with inflection??
for part b
Or like a polynomial graph with many intersecting points
yeah
but both are cubic
this is a more special case
so using this graph @stoic sage can you find a horizontal line y=k that intersect this graph four times?
but i only got 3
does d = k
yup
but how do i find the values of a b and c
ok how did you come to this conclusion?
because y=k would be a straight line and for the curve, if all x equal 0, y=d so d=k?
ok
why?
correct
the way to think about it
is that a cubic can intersect a horizontal line at most 3 times
so it can't be a cubic
so a = 0
then we go down to quadratic
but same logic, where a quadratic intersects a horizontal line at most 2 times
so b = 0
down to linear
same logic
oohh
therefore the only possibility is that the curve is just a flat line
and it is the only line y=k
oh okay
and it intersects itself infinitely many times
oh so you just equate each coefficient to 0 then
Thank you
indeed
np
and d = k
well i was referring to the first question
part a
but yeah part b follows the same logic
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does that say 2 < pi/4
re you supposed to find possible values of z
uh yeah the 2 < pi/4 is probably more crucial to address first
oh i didn't even realise lmao
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im not sure how to do this question, can someone help me
Hey
I may try to help but im not sure if i can reach the solution , is it okay ?
@stoic sage ?
yeah
does stationary points just mean
points where slope = 0?
See it says stationary at alpha = á and beta = b stationary
well i derivatived it twice and gor to 6x+2a
So f'(a) = f'(b) = 0
whats the f'b and f'a?
f'(x) = dy/dx
Wrote here
ooh okay
Let alpha = u and beta = k okk ?
So 3u² + 2au + b = 0 and 3k²+2ak + b = 0
Point of inflection will be the point where f'(c) and f''(c) both will be 0
Where c is the point of inflection
f''(x) = 6x + 2a
no no
they're both solutions
to the same equation
essentially
If f''(x) = 0 , then x = -2a/6
And we know this
So if we equate we get f''(x) is 0 at k+u/2
ye
That is required to proof
Here's a hint for you guys: the turning point/vertex of a quadratic is halfway between its roots
ooh thank you
why does k+u equal -2a/3?
True because parabolic path
Sum of roots
Of this eqn
Yeah
from this eqn ^^^
is there any other way i can get it without using the sum of roots?
I think this was the easiest way
Else you can use the logic as stated by igkoo
But still it would require proof
for sum of roots, alpha plus beta equal -b/a. why is -2a/3 the -b/a?
yeah
Alpha beta are roots
So alpha + beta = -2a/3
where 3 is the coefficient of x² and -2a coefficient of x
Ok ?
what do you equate it with
yea i understand that part now
If f''(x) = 0 , then x = -2a/6
And k + u = -2a/3
So clearly k + u = 2x from this equations
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how do i solve b) ??
f(2x) means you replace x with 2x every time x appears in the function
So g(x) = f(2x) = 5 (2 sin(3 * 2x) + 4) = 10 sin 6x + 20
ohh
Now the 6x is irrelevant to the range
I made mistake
Yeah so you should remember what the min and max values of sin x are
i didnt mutiply 5 to 4
And then sub in
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How to find the limit value for this equation?
