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prisma wren
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The most you can do in terms of simplifying is make the exponent positive by bringing (t+3) to the denominator

karmic zealot
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And that would become sqrt(t + 3) right

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But there’s still the 1/2 that I put in front

prisma wren
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Yeah, but the sqrt(t+3) would be in the denominator

karmic zealot
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I’ll write it down one sec

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Would this be right

prisma wren
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no

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you multiplied both sides by sqrt(t+3)

karmic zealot
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Oh do I just separate it in another fraction?

prisma wren
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I wouldn't do anything

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you generally don't need to simplify it too much

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just get the derivative right and move on

karmic zealot
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Well my teacher wants us to simplify it

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and stuff

prisma wren
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There are a billion ways to simplify, generally combining constants/negative signs and getting rid of negative exponents is sufficient

karmic zealot
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I would love to keep it like that but the answer in the text book looks really simplified

prisma wren
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Does the textbook have a sqrt(t+3) on the denominator?

karmic zealot
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2 sqrt(t + 3)^3

prisma wren
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give me a second

karmic zealot
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Here’s the answer

prisma wren
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Either the derivative is wrong or the answer key is

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simplifyig gives you 38t^3 and +1, not -1.

karmic zealot
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What did you do?

prisma wren
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multiply both sides by 2sqrt(t+3) and then combine'

karmic zealot
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Do you still have what you’ve written down

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Maybe we could see if there’s a mistake or something

prisma wren
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found it

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you made a mistake on the quotient rule

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the sign seperating u'v and uv' is supposed to be a (-), not (+)

karmic zealot
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Oh right

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But I’m still confused what could I do after that

prisma wren
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lemme write it out

karmic zealot
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Alright thanks man

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I usually understand when it’s written down

prisma wren
karmic zealot
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Why did you multiply 2 sqrt(t + 3)?

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Is it so you can get rid of it that fraction in the numerator?

prisma wren
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yes

karmic zealot
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Ohhhhh

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How did you get 36?

prisma wren
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3x6x2

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When we multiplied both sides by 2sqrt(t+3), we distributed it over the - sign on the numerator

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Like a(b-c) = ab-ac

karmic zealot
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Ohhhhhh

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But wouldn’t you have to multiply it with the sqrt(t+3) as well

prisma wren
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I did

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Try to figure out what that changed

karmic zealot
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I noticed that the sqrt(t+3) isn’t there anymore

prisma wren
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Yeah, it became a t+E

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t+3

karmic zealot
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Yup

prisma wren
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Since sqrt(t+3) * sqrt(t+3) = t+3

karmic zealot
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Yes

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Oh so the 2 multiplied with the 6t^2 ?

prisma wren
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Yeah I just multiplied all the constants together and moved them to the left

karmic zealot
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Ohhhhh okay

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Okay you made it look so simple 😭

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thank you so much man

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I’m unsure where I’ve gone wrong. My question is what are the transformations, ie question 4

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Hello, I need help in Linear Algebra 2.
I have a test coming up and theres some theorems I need to prove for the test.
For instance:
For all A, matrix of size nxn, and a polynomial c(x):
c(A) = 0 => m_A(x) | c(x)
Such that m_A(x) is the minimal polynomial.
I dont really know how to do that, could someone help

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vast obsidian
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Now try to get a contradiction from it

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solemn ridge
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Thank you!
I have another theorem that I couldnt prove.
If T is a Linear map on C, then:
forall u: <Tu, u> = 0 iff T=0
I thought about doing something like:

<T(u+v), u+v> = <Tu, v> + <Tv, u> = 0
And then maybe try for i*u and sat something like
<Tv, iu> + <Tiu, v> = 0
But I dont really know how to continue

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Oh wait if I say that this implies:

<Tv, iu> = -i<Tu,v>
<Tv, u> = <Tu, v>
Then if I would say for v = Tu
0 = <TTu, Tu> = <Tu, Tu>
=> Tu = 0

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I got it

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Sorry that this is messy but can someone help me out on what I did that is wrong please

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9

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,w 3+3

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mental imp
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hello, let's say i have a graph of the form y = 1/x

mental imp
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just the positive part

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is there a way for me to change the axes so that it becomes a straight line y = mx + b

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like a log plot but not a log plot

dull sequoia
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you could plot it against 1/x

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plotting against log x is nothing but a function of x

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1/x is also a function of x

mental imp
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oh

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thanks

dull sequoia
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but it'll break at 0

mental imp
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wait

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that's the asymptote right

dull sequoia
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yes

mental imp
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ok thank you

dull sequoia
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it'll break because it wasn't in the original function

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so after resizing the axis it still wont exist

mental imp
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got it

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foggy cloud
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help to solve 14 please

summer crow
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ok so given that x = 5i is a root, which other root do we instantly know

foggy cloud
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1?

summer crow
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no

foggy cloud
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which method easy to solve this?

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because im confused when solving with synthetic division

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summer crow
# foggy cloud which method easy to solve this?

I can think of two possible methods, you either first state some of the roots and factorise/algebraic division to find the remaining factor of f(x) to find the root. Or you use the relationship between the sum/product of roots and coefficients of polynomial

foggy cloud
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i can do that

shadow tapir
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what do you end up with

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mortal arrow
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Like idk why that should make sense

prisma shuttle
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they come from a quadratic term

mortal arrow
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so

foggy cloud
shadow tapir
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you just gonna need to equate each factor to 0

foggy cloud
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so what the point of zero : 5i

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in this question?

prisma shuttle
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Im guessing it lets you create the (x^2+25) root if you wanted to use long division to get (x-1)

foggy cloud
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ok

shadow tapir
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most likely that ye

summer crow
foggy cloud
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alright

prisma shuttle
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yeah the imaginary roots being given helps a lot more with quartics and ones after it

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since factoring those is horrid

foggy cloud
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thorny lodge
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how are these two the same

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summer crow
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can you factor out 12 and 48 from the surd?

thorny lodge
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dont understand

summer crow
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ok I'll show you an example, see if you get it. sqrt(20) = sqrt(4 x 5) = sqrt(4) x sqrt(5) = 2 x sqrt(5). Does this make sense

thorny lodge
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but how we getting 36

summer crow
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well given the example I've shown you, can you simplify sqrt(12)?

thorny lodge
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2* sqrt(3)?

summer crow
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yup

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do the same for sqrt(48)?

thorny lodge
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16*sqrt (3)

summer crow
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nope, slight mistake there

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48 = 16 * 3

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so sqrt(48) = sqrt(16) * sqrt(3)

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which is?

thorny lodge
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4* sqrt (3)

summer crow
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now add sqrt(12) and sqrt(48)

thorny lodge
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thx

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np

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fickle trail
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any issues with my description here?

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co-linear has a span of R^1
co-planar has a span of R^2

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the red arrow indicates "breaking out" of co-linear and co-planar with a single linearly independent vector

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all it needs is one vector to give a co-linear system a full span of R^2

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and all it needs is one vector to give a co-planar system a full span of R^3

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peak estuary
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you are confusing "1-dimensional span" with "span of R^1"

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vectors which live in R^2 or R^3 can never span R^1

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vectors in R^3 can span a plane (aka a 2-dimensional space) but can never span R^2

fickle trail
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that's right

fickle trail
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"1 dimensional span" vs "span of R^1", can easily get these confused

peak estuary
fickle trail
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OK

peak estuary
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the span will be a subspace of whatever space you are in

fickle trail
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span just refers to linearly independence

peak estuary
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no

fickle trail
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wait lemme rephrase that

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span just refers to vectors and if they are dependent or independent. this will indicate what areas they can reach, so we call that the span

peak estuary
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the span of some vectors is the set of all linear combinations of those vectors

fickle trail
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having one extra vector going rogue, as i have indicated with the red arrows, can reach anywhere in a higher dimension

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when i say rogue i mean linear independence in a meaningful way where the other vectors can reproduce it somehow

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wait maybe that's wrong, to say "anywhere"

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it's any distance in a straight line, isn't it

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we can't change the angle of that line

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but we say that it fully spans because of that red arrow
whereas before it was limited to a smaller span as each vector was parallel to one another in the same direction

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dang this stuff is hard to explain, words blend into one another, mumble jumble, gotta be super careful about wording

fickle trail
peak estuary
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what

fickle trail
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based on the vectors provided

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let's say 3 entries each vector

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we know it's R^3

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but span is only R^2 because of parallel lines

peak estuary
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the span of vectors that are in R^3 is NEVER R^2

fickle trail
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i don't understand, in my example above I stated that

peak estuary
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the span can be a 2-dimensional plane, but it can never be R^2

fickle trail
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R2 span is co-planar

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top left example

peak estuary
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you mean 2-dimensional

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saying R^2 is wrong

fickle trail
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but this is correct:

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the way this is worded

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it's exactly word for word how the instructor said it

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with the a, b example

peak estuary
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yes thats correct. but in that example a and b live in R^2

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so at least in theory they could span R^2

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but if they live in R^3 they can never span R^2

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no matter whether they are linearly independent or not

fickle trail
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so what's the point of span? if it's just gonna equal the same as the dimension

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even co-planar is span of R^3

uncut skiff
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the plane is a subspace of R^3

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and not the entire R^3

fickle trail
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but i'm talking about span

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not subspace

peak estuary
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a span of things by definition is a subspace

fickle trail
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when we say span = R^2 or span = R^3

uncut skiff
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the span is a plane in R^3 but not R^3

peak estuary
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they cant be the same

fickle trail
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so the way i worded it is technically incorrect

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lemme reword to see if i get it

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one sec

uncut skiff
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well i mean

peak estuary
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it doesnt span R^3

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it spans a subspace of R^3

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that subspace is 2-dimensional

fickle trail
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oh

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so i was kinda correct to begin with

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spans R^3

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but i forgot to say subspace of R^3

peak estuary
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you cant say you were correct when you wrote something wrong down

fickle trail
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tyvm
is this a better way to word everything?

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no need to write "full" but just to be extra clear

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not a subspace for the examples on the right

uncut skiff
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i think thats ok

fickle trail
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ty ty

uncut skiff
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have you watched 3blue1brown's linear algebra series

fickle trail
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finally i think i am starting to get it

fickle trail
uncut skiff
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???????

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most insane thing ive heard all day

fickle trail
fickle trail
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3B1B can be quite advanced sometimes for beginners

uncut skiff
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not really

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at least not for his linear algebra series

fickle trail
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well, i have watched them, and i can say for myself, but i we all learn differently

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not saying they are bad

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but to each their own

dull sequoia
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dull sequoia
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If you took things in ℝ³ and took its span you never get anything in ℝ²

uncut skiff
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dull sequoia
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The dimensions of the span can be 2 or 3

fickle trail
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and I re-watch

dull sequoia
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Or 0 or 1

uncut skiff
dull sequoia
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But they aren’t exactly ℝ²

fickle trail
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but sometimes it just doesn't click
i think the Krista King videos are doing that for me, could just be right place at right time though

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maybe starting out it would be different

dull sequoia
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Watch whatever helps you more

fickle trail
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yeah, exactly. i'm 100% sure if i go back to 3B1B there is still lots to learn

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even for highly skilled people in math, lots to learn from 3B1B i think

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but it can be a bit over the head if you just don't follow, or not seeing it, that just comes with practice and deeper comprehension i guess

uncut skiff
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i learnt about span through 3b1b im pretty sure

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uncut skiff
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yeah ok i get that

fickle trail
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all good, one of the great things about learning is each new student is like a fresh take on things, asking "why is that?" or "could it be this way?"
and actually teaching helps us to learn too

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like a fresh slate to really not take anything for granted

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the learning never ends

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for me personally i find this Udemy course super helpful

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and ChatGPT (lol, I know) for basic questions, not with math problem solving but for bigger picture abstract stuff I find it quite helpful indeed

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and Math Discord is great when I wanna try to explain it, learning and doing can sometimes be quite different from explaining

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what i think is correct, someone will always be happy to point out a flaw haha
it's the only way to get better

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tyvm folks, appreciate it!

uncut skiff
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sometimes i wish i had the humility for that

fickle trail
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for what?

fickle trail
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oh, it can be painful sometimes yeah, you sometimes question if the person answering even knows what they are talking about lol

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if you know it well enough you can explain why you think their answer is incorrect

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but most of the time I'm perfectly OK with just "I don't know", and "let's learn more"

uncut skiff
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ah sorry my english is all over the place

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you know what i dont remember what i wanted to say

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its 2 am

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thats enough math for a day

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yes, math is not a sprint, more like a daily practice

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have a good one!

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Hello I struggle to a question: For which value of the real "a" this polynomial admit a multiple real root?

earnest olive
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do you know descarte's rule of signs?

lean otter
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No what is it?

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I tried to set P=0 and P' =0 as a system and solve it but i did a mess

earnest olive
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basically, the number of times the sign of the coefficient changes in P(+x) gives the maximum number of positive roots and vice versa

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lean otter
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If i understood good the Descarte's rule make you find the number of roots

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But i need to find the value of a that make P admit a multiple real root

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Idk how this rule will help me

mint scarab
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cause for sure we know that there are exactly 4 root (real or not)

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we want to have a multiple real roots

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so we can eliminate a case with 0 real roots and only 1 real root

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so then we have 2/3 or 4 real roots and maybe we can do sth with that

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with vieta formulas we get

  1. r1 + r2 + r3 + r4 = -4/1 = -4
  2. r1r2 + ... + r3r4 = 8/1 = 8
  3. r1r2r3 + ... + r2r3r4 = -16
  4. r1r2r3*r4 = a
    where r1, r2, r3, r4 are roots
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So a is the product of all roots?

mint scarab
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yeah

lean otter
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No way

mint scarab
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i know

lean otter
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It is this easy

earnest olive
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i'll be trivial here (no rules, just basic math)
we need multiple roots, we can clearly see that if a=0, x=0 will be a root. lets say a<0 or P(0) < 0
P(-1) = -11 + a
P(-2) = -16 + a
P (0) = a
P (1) = 29 + a
P( -4) = 64 + a
lets say a>-64
then P(-4) > 0
P(-3) = -3 + a < 0
so it has multiple roots in this case because P will be positive for sure after some after x>3

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cool right

earnest olive
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completely out of my mind even though i have done many questions like that

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Lmao how in the world never have i heard abt this cheat

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Thanks a lot it sures help me

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Guys, isn’t cos(2x) = sin^2(x) - cos^2(x)?

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And if so, can’t I use the golden rule to make different rules out of that?

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Your RHS needs to be negative of what you have written.

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Vectors x and y are each have a length of 3 units. If |x+y| = square root 17, find |x-y|

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I'm afraid that doesn't help me

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so

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what is $|x+y|^2$

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I was doing some cleaning

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62 degrees

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hm let me verify

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just find cos(x)

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the ratio

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whats ur ratio?

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17/36

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are u sure sully

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rearrange for cosx

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It's 36(cosx)

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If I want to isolate cosx I just need to bring 36 to the other side

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$17-18 = 18cos(x)$

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$-1 = 18cosx$

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$-1/18 = cosx$

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Oh got it I got my algerbra wrong

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okay so we found the ratio right?

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|x-y|

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can u deduce an expression for $|x-y|^2$

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similar to $|x+y|^2$

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Does one length become -3?

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the new expression just negates the cosine term

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now input the values and square root both sides to find |a-b|

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square root 19

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Idk if i set it up right either

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hmmm, what is page 42 about? the usual way is called Heron's Formula and is really complicated

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It’s the same set up but just different numbers

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do they use the heron formula or some weird trig thing

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Some weird trig thing which I don’t get 😭

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I think you just have to follow what the book does but with different numbers, there are a lot of ways of doing it

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if m and n are positive integers with m>1,then n<m^n

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I now know how to solve to get angle B, but how do you solve for angle A and C?

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how do you calculate x?

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Ok

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yes?

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(Sin of angle A)/side a = (sin of angle B)/b

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got it!

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which one is angle a?

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27?

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Label angle A the 35 because it has a corresponding side

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12xsin(35)/sin(25)?

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is that correct

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Ultimately the side that corresponds to 27 doesn’t matter

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The reason 27 is there is so you can calculate the last angle

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So with the information that is given to you and knowing that the sum of the interior angles =180° find the 3rd angle

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is the third angle 118?

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hold on gimme one second

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Yes

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It is

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now you know the 3rd angle

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Now you know all the information needed to plug into the formula

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sin(35)/12 = sin(118)/b?

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YES! Great job

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Now isolate b

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how do i do that? sorry 😭

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Ok

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Let me draw it out for you

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thank you! :)

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so you multiply both sides by b

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Then divide both sides by sin 35°/12

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When dividing by a fraction skip flip multiply

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Now you have b alone

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Just solve and you find the final side

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i understand it now

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Can someone help me/give me a clue on why f(γ_1(t)) and f(γ_2(t)) meet at f(z_0) with angle pi? Thanks in advance!

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And also look at the direction vectors: t makes an angle of pi/2 with it

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From the definition of i

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ty for responding, and yh I'm convinced about that part

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but

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my question was why f(gamma_1(t)) meets f(gamma_2(t)) with angle pi

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$\cosh t = \frac{e^t + e^{-t}}{2}, \cos t = \frac{e^{it} + e^{-it}}{2}$

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right so cos(t) = cosh(it) / cosh(t) = cos(it) [both are true], taking cosh(t) = cos(it), we're trying the find the angle where cos(it) meet cos(t) essentially. I feel like I'm missing smth obvs that tells me the angle for that is pi

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True I can't figure it out either

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haha thx for helping though, I thought I was missing smth really simple (maybe it is who knows XD)

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Can someone please go over how to set up the equation for this problem, I'm not sure where to start

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you have the choice of either disk method or shell method

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I'm not sure which is which 😓

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I think in class we called it the washing machine method

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washer method?

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Yeah

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that's same as disk I think

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ok

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disk method is a special case of the washer method (the hardware, not the machine)

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Ohh I see

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Then yeah could you pls explain it using the disk method 🙏

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Given two objects, one possess a mass of m_1 and kinetic energy of k_1 while the other possess a mass of m_2 and is stationary, have a head-on elastic collision. Then in what configuration will the transformed kinetic energy from the m_1 object to the M_2 object to be the greatest?

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After some analyses, I realized that v_2 and k_2 are in direct proportion as well as k_2 and m_2.

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Despite both v_2 and m_2 are in direct proportion with k_2, the ascending trend of k_2 = v_2 is more significant to its counterpart k_2 = m_2. It is due to the difference between linear relations and quadratic relations between them.

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ain't the result indicates k_2 has its maximum when the value of m_2 can no more be greater than m_1.

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Does anyone know what f(u) should be if its not ln(u)/5u ?

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Would you not let u = t^5 + 26 and then have du/5 = t^4 dt

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Which would end up with that

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Because its wrong on my hw

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yeah that looks correct lol

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Maybe the way we write it, can you separate the factor of (1/5) in another bracket

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I tried that too it still counted it as wrong

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Yeah then it's the website

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Anyone able to help with part b?

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95% confidence

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I believe this should be 2 standard deviations from mu right?

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yes

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your sigma or std dev is 3.2

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so to get the 95% confidence is mu+-2*3.2

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right

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your variance is 3.2^2

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wouldn't it be z=1.96, because you have to consider both sides of the distribution?

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oh so we we then using the coding for Z?

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to find mu?

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confidence interval is $\mu\pm Z^{}\frac{\sigma}{\sqrt{n}}$ and you want to differ from the mean by 1, so the $Z^{}\frac{\sigma}{\sqrt{n}}$ term should be 1, you know $\sigma$ and $Z^*_{95}$ so solving for $n$ is trivial

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PajamaMamaLlama

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Hello

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so I've been messing around with some models and ideas, and I've come up with a function v that "should satisfy these criteria"

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then v is a strictly concave function from F to the reals

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is there any sense in which such a function, possibly with other constraints, could be "optimised"?

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(I wanna find a global maximum)

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also, I should say that I have absolutely no idea about the specific form of the function beyond concavity for now

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Minor thing that might help you find literature on this topic. A function that maps another function to a number is a generally called a "functional." @raven atlas

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How do I do this sort of thing? This is homework and if I get it wrong I can try again.

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How do I tell where to multiply the 6? Do I do the smallest one?

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so im trying to show that this is true

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there's 2 statements here (iff), if Y and h are measurable functions then clearly the composition of them h after Y is also measurable and we can call this Z and it's measruable

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now if Y and Z are measurable functions, how do i show that Z after Y^-1 is measurable

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in particular, $\forall \delta \in \sigma(Z), \text{preim}_{Y^{-1}}(\delta)\in \mathcal G$

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Frosst

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okay hold up we have that $\sigma(Z) \subseteq \sigma(Y)$

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Frosst

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so how do i use this with the Y^-1...

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I am a tad bit confused: The diagram on the bottom has the the arrow for h going the wrong direction

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Fuck

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I wrote it wrong

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Which one, the diagram or the domain/codomain of h?

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The diagram is correct

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ah i see

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Alright, the forward direction is clear; composition of measurable functions is measurable

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Yes

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Very clear

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But backwards

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Do we require commutativity of that diagram? Otherwise the statement as written is trivially true.

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The diagram is just for me to see what is being written

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I’m trying to show the 2 statements above

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The one connecting the iff

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Ok yeah we require commutativity of the diagram. As written on the board, you only require the existence of measurable functions, which are trivially satisfied by constants.

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It's not an existence statement for Z, just for h

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But it says iff

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right, but you are given Z already
The iff only concerns the measurability of Z

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Oh I’m misinterpreting

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I see

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So it’s more like this

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And the existence of h forces the diagram to commute?

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Right

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Because then Z is just the composition of h after Y

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the top condition is missing a piece, it's required that Z = h o Y

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Hmm

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Ah because h after Y is indeed a measurable function from σ(Y)

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But my Z could be some other thing completely unrelated

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So we need to force the Z to be actually that composition

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Then if a measurable h can be found then Z is composed of measurable functions

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The commutativity is required for h here.

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If I can’t find a measurable h then it’s not measurable? How do I show then that Z is also not measurable for sure

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Ah I see

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I think you should be able to do it via characteristic functions

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Suppose that $Z = \chi_{Y^{-1}(E)}$ for some $E \in \mathcal{G}$; then $h = \chi_E : (\Lambda, \mathcal{G}) \to (\mathbb{R}^k, \mathcal{B}^k)$ is measurable and $\chi_{Y^{-1}(E)} = Z = h \circ Y = \chi_E \circ Y$

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LJ NG+

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So for any measurable Z, write Z as a limit of simple functions and show that the resulting sequence of measurable h you get converges.

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You may need to first write Z = Z^+ - Z^- for this, taking the positive and negative parts of Z.

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let me think about this

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you have to construct the function

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I’ve cheated

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My second book has a proof

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It does not look as though I would’ve been able to come up with this

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Given A,B,C, and X are all 2 by 2 matrix

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Given A,B,C, and X are all 2 by 2 matrix

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answer the questions below:

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If XC=CX, then what possible matrices could X be?

uncut skiff
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wow chinese

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I would write X as a b c d then just do the matrix multiplication

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the 4th one is the identity so its one of the solutions

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its tedious if youre doing it a lot but yeah

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identity matrix, any matrix multiplied to it is itself

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Hi

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hi

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so whats your quesiton 😭

feral kernel
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Sorry lol

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The last one

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Is it correct?

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Or is it i*cosO + sinO

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Oh okay

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What are the rules for multiplying Matrixes?
Something simple like this?

meager merlin
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Use Dot product rule

rustic goblet
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in the most general form, take the ith row of the first matrix (starting from the top) and dot product it with the jth column of the second matrix (starting from the left)

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this gives you the entry for the ith row, jth column of the product AB

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now... what does that mean?

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@normal rose take the first row of A and dot product it with the first column of B

normal rose
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hmm

rustic goblet
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that gives you the first row first column entry of AB

normal rose
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so 8* -5 and 1*7?

rustic goblet
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yes

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well

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add the two

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dot product is defined to be the sum of the products

normal rose
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-40 + 7 = -33
and that's the first term? or do i keep it as -40 + 7?

rustic goblet
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-33 is the first entry, yes

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it goes in the 1st row, 1st column of the matrix AB

normal rose
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so first row by first column
second row by first column next?

rustic goblet
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other way around

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first row by second column next

normal rose
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first row by first column
first row by second column
second row by first column
second row by second column?

rustic goblet
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yes!

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that gives you the entries for the
first row, first column
first row, second column
second row, first column
second row, second column
of the matrix AB, respectively

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perfect, Thank you!

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what's the question

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square?

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ancient snow
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the area under the line

crimson ridge
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yea

ancient snow
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you don't really need integration here

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you can find the area of the trapezium formed between the line and the axis

crimson ridge
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integration

ancient snow
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if you find the trapezium area

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the height is 7 and the sum of parallel sides is 11

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so the area is 1/2(7)(11) which is 77/2

crimson ridge
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38.5

ancient snow
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now using integration

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the equation is y = 5/7 x + 3

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integrate that you get 5/14 x^2 + 3x

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plug in 7 you get 35/2 + 21

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which is 17.5 + 21 which is 38.5

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same answer

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i don`t get it

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desert pasture
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so this is equivalent to integrating between -pi/2 and 3pi/2 right?

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if not I fear this will be rather nasty

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will require IBP multiple tomes

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*times

obtuse plover
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cant u just do a triangle diagram or smth

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the integrand becomes pi/2 - x or smth right

desert pasture
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yeah

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pi-arcsin(x)

obtuse plover
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just pi/2 - x no?

desert pasture
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ah

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yes

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oh

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right

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idk, check if im right

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desert pasture
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didn't notice the arccos 💀

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eternal carbon
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but yeah all there is to this question is to think of what arccos(sinx) is geometrically

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then what would it be

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sin(π-x)=sin(x)

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is what I used

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quick question for vector product

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if a(a1, a2), and b(b1, b2)

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then axb=a1b2-a2b1

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is this true?

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$\vec{a}=a_1 \hat{i}+a_2\hat{j},\vec{b}=b_1\hat{i}+b_2\hat{j}$

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oh god

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lol

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$\hat i$ iirc

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Denascite

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it's just about this

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kheerii

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then $|a\times b|=a_1 b_2 - a_2 b_1$ yes

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kheerii

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last geyser
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can you guys help me with this?

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what will be the annswer

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?

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when i say it is decaying 0.45% every month it says its wrong . idk why?

drowsy moss
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because it's not every month

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t is in months, but the exponent is t/30
so you won't have a decay of .45% until the exponent 1

last geyser
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so what would it be?

drowsy moss
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when is t/30 = 1?

last geyser
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when t is 30

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so it decays .45% every 30 months, or 2.5 years

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got it.

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On the slopes AB and CD of the trapezoid ABCD, the points M and N are chosen such that MN||BC and AM:MB=3:4. Find the length of segment MN if the lengths of the bases are 8cm and 22cm (AD is the larger base)

cyan sorrel
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this is what i got in school 😭

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answer is 16cm

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pls help i have exam

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steel stag
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a parallel line along a trapezoid, when you move it around, gets bigger and smaller at a constant rate

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so if you go from the top to the bottom you're just stretching from 22 to 8

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and 3:4 means you want a number which is slightly closer to 22, 3/7 of the way to 22=AD

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like red is where the answer is on a number line

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so try to find out how much 1/7 of the distance is and move 3 of those from 22 for the answer

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ty, i think i may get answer from proportion

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isn't it ?

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yea the proportion is 3:4 between 22 and 8

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If a(a1, a2) and b(b1, b2), axb=a1b2-a2b1 then what is a(a1, a2, a3), b(b1, b2, b3) axb?

viscid grail
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as product

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$\begin{vmatrix} i & j & k \ a_1 & a_2 & a_3 \ b_1 & b_2 & b_3 \end{vmatrix}$

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TayBee

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Assuming you're comfy with determinants

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Or

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You can memorise that

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ahhh I see

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Can someone please help me simplify this

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ancient snow
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uh that's not exactly correct cuz

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the hypotenuse squared = a^2 + b^2

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in this case the hypotenuse is x+10

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not x

limpid cosmos
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Wait

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OHHHH

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hold up

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So it would be

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(X+10)^2 = 14^2 + x^2 ?

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I somehow forgot how to do x+10^2

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Could you help me out please 😭😭

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faiyrose

limpid cosmos
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Oh ok

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So would it be

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x^2+100=196+x^2

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limpid cosmos
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So it’s x^2 + 20x + 100 ?

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Awesome thank you so much so I think the answer is x = 4.8 ?

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Epiccc thank you so very much!!

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it doesnt have real solutions you know it?

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yes

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i tried i failed why else am i here

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does this diverge or converge?

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obtuse jackal
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Do the terms go to 0 ?
If so, how?
Monotonically?
Fast enough for convergence to be absolute?

upbeat basin
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i don't think it is monotonic

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when I did the ratio test I got that it diverges but on my answer key itdiverges

obtuse jackal
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what
"I got diverges but I should have gotten diverges"
Except it converges

upbeat basin
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ssorry it is a typo

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yes on the answer key it converges but I don't understand why

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the series doesn't go to 0, it isn't monotonic, and it is fast enough to be absolute

obtuse jackal
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ratio test harder

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upbeat basin
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no

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i don't think so

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oh thank you

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u split it into two fractions bc same denominator

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i mean one fraction

obtuse jackal
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the ratio of two consecutive terms goes to -1/2 by a simple computation?

upbeat basin
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what do you mean by that?

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upbeat basin
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does 2n+3 cancel out 2n+1 because they are basically the same except 2n+3 is just one terms ahead of 2n+1

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kinda like a factorial?

obtuse jackal
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they ratio goes to 1
You're just doing a computation
Don't overthink this

upbeat basin
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im sorry but I stil dont get it

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how does the ratio go to one

obtuse jackal
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(2n+1) / (2n+3) = ((2n+3) - 2) / (2n+3) = 1 - 2/(2n+3) -> 1 - 0

upbeat basin
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oKay I understand that, but how would that fully simplify the limit when doing the ratio test?

obtuse jackal
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have you tried just writing it out and simplifying just about everything ?

upbeat basin
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let me try again

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causd ehen I do it seems to get more complex

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oKay I got it

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lomit goes to 1/2

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hwo do we determine volume of 0 to 2

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if it passed section of intersection