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wanton delta
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Hi I’m not sure why I’m getting this probability question wrong could anyone help me?

wanton delta
quasi bison
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is the marked answer yours or the teacher's?

wanton delta
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Mine

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It’s incorrect

quasi bison
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you selected that H and T are independent. was this a conscious decision you made?

wanton delta
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Yea

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Is that not true

quasi bison
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well, let's walk through it.

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can you tell me the definition of independent events?

wanton delta
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Ones that aren’t affected by previous events

quasi bison
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bad.

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there's no notion of "previousness" here to speak of.

wanton delta
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Yea

quasi bison
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let's try this again. can you fill in the blank here?

Two events A and B are said to be independent if _________________________________.
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i want you to fill in the blank with a statement that involves probabilities.

wanton delta
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P(A and B) = P(A) x P(B)

quasi bison
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ok, great.

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would rather you didn't use the letter x as a multiplication symbol though.

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now, i want you to apply this definition to your pair of events, but before that:

would you like to do it yourself or would you like to be taken through it step by step?

wanton delta
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taken through it I guess

quasi bison
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ok

wanton delta
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I mean it doesn’t work right

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So it’s not independent

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but I don’t think it’s dependent either

quasi bison
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why do you think these events aren't dependent?

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do you have a definition of "dependent events" on hand similar to the one i had you recite for independent ones?

wanton delta
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P(A and B) = P(A) * P(B|A)

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So it’s dependent and disjoint

quasi bison
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this isn't a property of a pair of events.
this is simply a statement that is always true (as long as P(B) > 0...)

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"dependent" actually means "not independent", nothing more nothing less.

quasi bison
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a disjoint pair of events is actually always* dependent.

wanton delta
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Ohh thank you so much!

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gleaming tundra
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What's your issue?

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untold topaz
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Learnt log & exponentials

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untold topaz
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Is it correct to say
$$ 22 00 = 4 000 (2)^ (t/9) $$

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?

flat frigateBOT
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kai_funaba

quasi bison
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badtex aside, not really...

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you can say that the population of your town follows $P(t) = 4000 \cdot 2^{t/9}$ yes

flat frigateBOT
quasi bison
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finding the time at which there are 22,000 people living in it... won't be of that much use

untold topaz
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Hmm

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This line scares me

quasi bison
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how familiar are you with derivatives

untold topaz
quasi bison
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tf

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and you are asked for instantaneous rate of change here??

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which is a derivative???

untold topaz
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@quasi bison If I were to use
h = .001
How would it turn out?

quasi bison
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well, it'd eventually work out to $22000 \cdot \frac{2^{0.001/9} - 1}{0.001}$

flat frigateBOT
quasi bison
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but still it is strange that you are forced to do clearly calculus things without calculus

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it's cruel

untold topaz
quasi bison
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$\frac{P(t+h) - P(t)}{h} = \frac{4000 \cdot 2^{(t+h)/9} - 4000 \cdot 2^{t/9}}{h} \ = \frac{4000 \cdot 2^{t/9} \cdot 2^{h/9} - 4000 \cdot 2^{t/9}}{h}$

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untold topaz
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Ah right

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UGhhhhh

quasi bison
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$= 4000 \cdot 2^{t/9} \cdot \frac{2^{h/9} - 1}{h}$

flat frigateBOT
quasi bison
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just some algebra

untold topaz
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The longer I do it the more concerning it gets

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Yep stuck

quasi bison
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you chose not to do it the way i did it, and landed in the mud.

untold topaz
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I didn't?

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I tried to follow u tho

quasi bison
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you substituted h = 0.001 right away

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i didnt do that

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i left h as it was

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also wait is it one hundredth or one thousandth that you want to use for h

untold topaz
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0 . 01

quasi bison
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like exactly that

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now you can notice that 4000 * 2^(t/9) is just P(t) itself, i.e. the current population

untold topaz
untold topaz
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What black magic is this

quasi bison
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black magic?

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there's no magic here

untold topaz
quasi bison
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i mean i have the formula for P(t) in front of me just as well as you do

untold topaz
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Do I sub 22k or 4k as 'current'?

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Cuz I'm calculating for 22k

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My sense of time is kinda messed up at this point

quasi bison
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your approximate instantaneous rate of change equals $(4000 \cdot 2^{t/9}) \cdot \frac{2^{h/9}-1}{h}$

flat frigateBOT
quasi bison
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the stuff in parentheses is the current population

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in your case that's 22k

untold topaz
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Thanks so much Ann!!!

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hasty oasis
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Does anyone know how I would do 2.?

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hasty oasis
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and 3.

dapper venture
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the gradient of a scalar function of 2 variables is just <df/dx.df/dy>

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then plug in x_0 = <2,12>

hasty oasis
dapper venture
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yes

hasty oasis
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<df/dx.df/dy> does this mean multiplying them together?

dapper venture
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no

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the gradient is a vector

hasty oasis
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Ohhh

hasty oasis
dapper venture
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no problem

hasty oasis
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Do you know about 3.?

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I'm not very good at proofs

dapper venture
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same :/

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try writing the partial derivatives as limits and prove they are equal

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^^

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wispy flint
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is the answer 0 because x^3 is odd?

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dapper venture
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I think so

wispy flint
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okay

raven heart
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You can't just ignore the cos(x^2)

wispy flint
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thats even so odd * even = odd = 0

raven heart
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Yeah alright

dapper venture
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yee

wispy flint
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alright ty

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wheat cave
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can someone explain this to me? so in the 4th row I have $x^3$, which is bigger than the cycle, but how exactly does it result in $x^2+0x^1+1$?

flat frigateBOT
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jigglyproff

quasi bison
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are you by any chance working with polynomials over F2

wheat cave
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this is in the extension field of GF(2)

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yes

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minimal polynomials

quasi bison
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in that case

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x^3 - (x^3+x^2+1) = x^3 + x^3 + x^2 + 1 = x^2 + 1

wheat cave
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$**x^3 - (x^3+x^2+1) = x^3 + x^3 + x^2 + 1 = x^2 + 1$

flat frigateBOT
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jigglyproff

wheat cave
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oh damn

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yeah right you just add when subtracting in gf2

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okay can you check on my $x^4$\
I just do $x^4=(x^2+1)x=x^3+x$\
then I do modulo, so\
$x^3+x- (x^3+x^2+1) = 2x^3+ x^2 + x + 1$\
which should be $x^2+x+1$ right

flat frigateBOT
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jigglyproff

quasi bison
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seems to check out

wheat cave
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damn, thanks

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lean otter
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I don't quite get my teacher's solution to this question

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What does adding 14 to the series of inequalities imply?

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It seems really random

peak estuary
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now you have 60 numbers between 1 and 59

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so two have to be equal

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and it cant be two of the same "type" because the a_i are all distinct

lean otter
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Sorry I still don't understand the logic

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Of the steps performed to get to that conclusion I guess

quasi bison
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i think there might be a better way to format the same logic

peak estuary
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the steps come a bit out of nowhere

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the only motivation is that they work

quasi bison
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imagine the team keeps a log of the number of games they play

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they have a table of 30 columns and each column corresponds to a day, and at the end of each day they write the number of games played so far into that day's column

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so they have a strictly increasing sequence of thirty numbers that way

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those are the a_i from your prof's work

quasi bison
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now they write below each day's number

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that number plus 14

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so they have two rows

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together comprising 60 numbers

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all in the range from 1 to 59

lean otter
peak estuary
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well now you have seen this approach so maybe next time you might find something similar. its ok to not always know all approaches. its ok if you understand some approaches, understand why they work and can then adapt. this will make your toolbox bigger

lean otter
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Understandable so far

quasi bison
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dirichlet principle says there will be two numbers in this table that are the same

peak estuary
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is pigeonhole also called dirichlet?

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never heard that before

quasi bison
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sure is

lean otter
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Okay but like

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My second confusion is that

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How does that conclusion from the pigeonhole principle imply that there is a period of some days in which they play only 14 games?

lean otter
peak estuary
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going with Ann's table, the two numbers that are equal cant be in the same row

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because in each row are only distinct numbers

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so they are in different rows

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so a_i = a_j + 14 for some i and j

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that means on day i they have played 14 games more than on day j in total

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so those 14 games happened on days j+1, j+2, ..., i

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which are consecutive

lean otter
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Sorry I'm going to need a good bit to rationalise all of that one second

peak estuary
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take your time

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pigeonhole arguments are often not easy imo. cause by design they always barely work

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so you have to be very precise with putting the puzzle pieces together

lean otter
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It just clicked thank you so much your explanation really simplified it

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Okay I think I got a rough idea of this now

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There is another one which went a bit like,

"Let S denote the set of 6 positive integers below 14. There exists at least two non empty subsets in which the sum of the elements of both subsets are equal"

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My teacher'a argument for this eventually made sense, but I didn't find it intuitive at all?

She considered the sum of the last 6 integers below 14

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So like

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9 +... + 14 = 69

peak estuary
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the question immediately suggests to start counting two things:
number of possible sums
number of subsets

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the sums can at most be 69. because thats what you get if you choose the 6 biggest numbers available

lean otter
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Number of possible sums

peak estuary
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and on the other hand, each sum is at least what?

lean otter
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At least 1?

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Wait

peak estuary
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wait I made a mistake. uhm

lean otter
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Yeah that makes sense

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So between 1 and 69?

peak estuary
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thats too weak. I dont like that

lean otter
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Too weak?

peak estuary
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lets count the numbers of subsets for a second

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how many can we pick?

lean otter
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2^6 -1

peak estuary
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63

lean otter
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Yep

peak estuary
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which is smaller

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so we cant use "number of subsets > number of sums, so two subsets have same sum"

lean otter
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My teacher instead

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Considered the proper subsets

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Exactly because of that

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So excluding like, 14

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In which the number of (proper) subsets are 62

peak estuary
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?

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wdym excluding 14

lean otter
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Oh sorry

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Excluding 9 I mean

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By considering the sum of the highest 5 terms, which ends up being 60

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The numbers of subsets becomes 62 (as we have removed one of the subsets)

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So pigeonhole becomes applicable

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Well that's my teacher's way apparently

peak estuary
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maybe another perspective (which I havent yet completely formulated in my head but which should lead to the same answer)

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if we have eg 9,...,14 as the 6 numbers, then we can go back to what I said earlier about what the sum has to be at least

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which here would have to be 9

lean otter
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Yeah I don't mind solving it in different perspectives either way. Gives me better intuition

peak estuary
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for the sum to be smaller you need to include a smaller number but that also makes the max possible sum smaller

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eg if you include a 1, then the max possible sum is 1+10+11+12+13+14=61

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and min is 1

lean otter
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Okay understandable

peak estuary
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or if you include 2, the max is 62

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and min is 2

lean otter
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Yep logical

peak estuary
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if you include 3, max is 63, min is 3

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and so on

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so we see that its always 60 possible sums

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corresponding to the 5 highest numbers

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always between [min number, min number + 5 highest numbers]

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and now same argument, 60 possible sums, > 60 subsets

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and I suck at counting cause thats clearly 61 possible sums

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but > 61 subsets so still fine

lean otter
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Hmmm

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Comprehending

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Do you mind if I open another help channel in around 30 minutes time? I am currently outside but I want to continue our talk about this

peak estuary
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yeah thats fine

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ping me

lean otter
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Alright. See you, and thank you

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dreamy pike
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titu andreescu and dorin andrica, complex numbers from A to Z, Birkhauser, 2006

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Can someone find me the pdf link to this page

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of this book

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unkempt marten
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Just trying to double check, but is my process here right?

unkempt marten
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if im not mistaken my next step would be to cancel out the h's, but id need them on every term in the numerator, which i dont have

primal granite
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F(x+h) doesn't equal (2x+h)^2

unkempt marten
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is it 2(x+h)^2?

primal granite
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Yep

unkempt marten
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ooh...

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alright let me redo it with that in mind

primal granite
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👍

unkempt marten
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2(x+h)^2 would be:

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2x^2 + 4hx + 2h^2

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alright f'(x) = 4x

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alright thats good! thank youu!

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whats a range in a rational function?

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verbal vault
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the first answer is correct but I have a question regarding the second as Im a little unsure

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Sorry for the delay, Im just writing it out for clarity

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This doesn’t feel right but it’s the only method I can think of when solving this

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nevermind, i worked it out. it looks like it is the right answer haha. just need to have some faith in myself more often

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A box contains 6 red, 4 white, and 5 black balls. A person draws 4 balls from the box at random. What is the probability that among the balls drawn there is at least 1 ball of each color?

cunning shard
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I understand that there are three cases, WBRB, WBRW, WBRR

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Total 15C4 ways to choose 4 pairs from the total

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not sure how to get the favorable

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how many ways to select WBRB?

quasi bison
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well, how many ways are there to draw 2 black, 1 red and 1 white?

cunning shard
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6C2* 4C2 *5C2?

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there is no blue btw

quasi bison
cunning shard
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we want 2 black from 5, so 5C2

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similarly 2 white from 5 white, so 5 C2

quasi bison
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no, we want only 1 white...

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we're considering the case where we draw 2 black and 1 each of the rest

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how many ways to select WBRB?

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also i misidentified which of your choose functions went to which color

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so i should have asked you why 6C2

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rather than just 6

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(or 6C1 if you're a formalist/bureaucrat)

cunning shard
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in WBRB is each of these choices are independent?

quasi bison
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they're independent per color

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the choices of white are independent of the choices for red and for black

cunning shard
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I was wondering why it’s not $645*5$

flat frigateBOT
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dotdoc.

cunning shard
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choosing 4 so can’t I choose one by one?

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As you said the correct way is 5c2* 6*4

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Find the number that this series converges on:
9/17 + 3/17 + 1/17 + 1/51 + ...'

flat perch
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Is it ummm 27/34?

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Because first term * common ratio =

halcyon fog
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i need help

flat perch
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9/7)(1- 1/3)

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flat perch
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which is 27/34?

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right?

flat perch
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awww man

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yeah I know

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covert cosmos
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proof that 2*(n)! / (2n)! = 1/(2^(n-1) * (2n-1)!!)

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toby____

$\frac{2(n!)}{(2n)!} = \frac{1}{2^{n-1}(2n-1)!}$
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$\frac{2(n!)}{(2n)!} = \frac{1}{2^{n-1}(2n-1)!!}$

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nusuntrares

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(2n-1)!! means only odd numbers

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mlkkei

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second

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just proof it

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Are you asking me to prove it, or are you asking for help proving it yourself?

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We don't do that here.

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bruh

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it was ok until this keyboard warrior @white umbra came and started to close my channel

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who tasked you with this question

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this is the initial question

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is that limit of the n'th derivative of this function (at x=0)?

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2*(n)! / (2n)!

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looks gross

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2*(n)! / (2n)!

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i'm confused

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let me figure this out

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so you input variables for the present ages of both girls

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so in this case: J+5:S+5 = 3:5

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and J+10:S+10 = 2:3

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now

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J+10:S+10 is also equal to =20:30

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and so J=10

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ad S=20

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so honestly

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i have no idea how thats wrong

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since 15:25 is also 3:5

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lemme show u the solution

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alright

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so you were right

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i don't understand how if use song's age to calculate x i get a negative number...?

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i honestly dont get this work

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😭

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you got the answer right

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i don't get why x negative tho..?

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how do you get a negative

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show your work plzzzzz

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if I do 3x + 5 = 2x, I get x = 5
but
if i use song's age i get 5x+5=3x
x = -2.5 ??

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am i supoussed to assume that x can't be negative or am i mising smth

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how does 5x+5=3x

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the way they use the variables for the question confuses me

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ratio of J:S five years later is 3:5, so 5x is his age after 5 years
in 5 more years (10 years) their age ratio is 2:3
so 5x + 5 = 3x

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where did the +5 come from

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if your trying to find the ratio of their ages in 10 years

little marlin
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the 5x is his age 5 years from the present, add 5 to that we get 10 years from the present

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so what are we supposed to "equal" that to?

little marlin
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= 3x (as the ratio after 10 years is 2:3)

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im stupid

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hold on

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but that would not be 3x

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try to solve it this way

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3x:5x
2x+5:3x+5

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5x=3x=5

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so it would be 2.5

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not -2.5

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it would not be 5x+5

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it would be 3x+5

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there is NO other way

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ooooh okayy

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i seee

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you get it?

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Im honestly confused why they teach you age questions like this

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honestly, life hack here: Just make 2 variables

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J+5:S+5 = 3:5
and J+10:S+10 = 2:5

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and just multiply the ratio on the right by 10

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or 5 here

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Their claim is that the event of 1st empty 2nd chocolate contains symmetric elements to the event of 1st chocolate 2nd empty, such that their probabilities are the same

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Not sure how to get an exact answer from this

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There you go!

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Follow the instructions (like rationalization)

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ah

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when they ask for sin(135), I just give the sin of the reference angle?

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no

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there are a set of rules

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in different quadrants

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we get different answers

charred flame
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man

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okay I must have forgotten that specific detail

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dont worry

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revise it and you are fine!

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any idea what it is called so I can look for it in my book?

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those are basic trigonometric rules

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i will give you a list!

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wait

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Allied angles

charred flame
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what the heck

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yes

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okay

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not in my book but it's in my notes lol

dapper oak
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that is also a valid method to remember

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so the reference angle is in q2

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Oh you know what I have a different physical book than the online book I am using for this class

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so is the 1/sqrt2 just something you know to equal that?

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and is there a way to get the answer if you don't know all of the conversions?

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man trig is wild

dapper oak
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some common functions to keep in mind!

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also if you are not sure

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you can derive it

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wow I haven't even seen this

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so the answer you gave was incorrect

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the 1 in the numerator is also a 2

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so now I am even more confused

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Yes that's called rationalization

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oh yeah that adds up now nvm

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well I sure hope the exam this week allows notes because trig has a lot of stuff to just remember

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ty for the help

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Np!

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Did i set up my limits correctly

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can u write in chat the equation?

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Huh

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1/((z^2)+(x^2)+(y^2))^(1/3)

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Idk how to use latex

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Have you been introduced to different coordinate systems?

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Things like cylindrical and spherical coordinates?

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Yes

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take partial derivative of f in respect of x then t

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i was doing that, but i’m so lost like for the work

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where are you lost

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Okay so I tried applying this formula here

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But theres a problem

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since there can only be 8 cubes

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Therefore either there will be 1 less red, blue or green cube

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depending on which case I consider I get the answers 560, 420, 1260

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the correct answer is 1260

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Lemme check gimme a sec

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how do I know in an exam which case is the correct?

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(1260 case is the case when 1 green cube is left out)

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i believe you have to first choose the 8 cubes

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then with that, permute it

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so like

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but the problem is how do I know which cube should I discard to get the correct answer?

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280+420+560=1260

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Checks out to me

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Can you show work

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Use the formula and thats what you get

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,w (9 choose 8) * 8!/(2!*3!*4!)

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Oh thats a good way to do it

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Thats like the combinations

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Yes

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@hardy lion it seems it was a calculation error (using my method)

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I think the result is 1260

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Having trouble constructing the sequence I have in mind over here properly

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How would i use a recursive definition to create such a sequence?

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Why do you want a recursive definition

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It doesnt have to be recursive

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i dont see any other way to construct the sequence

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but if there is, do let me know

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$a_{3k + 1} = 1, a_{3k+2} = -(k + 2), a_{3k + 3} = (k + 2)$

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With $k \geq 0$

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_daili

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ah. Edit: also realised my proof above in the picture itself is wrong, it should be 3k+1 not 1+2k.

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How do I do these?

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Do I just do normal epsilon delta and sub in (x,y,z) for x?

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polynomials are continuous, so direct-substitution works

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for (a)

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Hi, I don’t understand how step 1 to step 2 is made?

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factorisation

lament nacelle
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I thought it would become log(2x)^4x + log(2x-1)^3

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is that not how it works?

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Instead of doing that

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They saw the 4x and the + 3 both had a

Log(2x-1) multiplied to them

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They pulled out log(2x-1) as a common factor from both

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Leaving behind (4x + 3)

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It's not the only way to solve you could have done it the other way using the logarithm properties

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Ohhhh I see now

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I need help with this double integral please someone help

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I don't see the interval on second integral

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the first is from 1 to 2

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the second is from ? to 1

misty shoal
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2

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if you need a hint try to set parametet t = xy then dt = y

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Here

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Your work looks solid

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So then

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How is it still wrong

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Here is my solution

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cant figure out what im doing wrong here
the dimensions are definitely right (the dimension of any pn polynomial space is n+1)
with that fact the three polynomials should constitute a basis for p2 (there are 3 polynomials, each with a degree of 2 or less, satisfying the basis thm.)
and then the three polynomials that they gave are said to span the subspace H, meaning that if they are independent (and i checked they are) they should serve as a basis for H

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The dimension of P2 is 3, not necessarily H

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it would only constitute a basis if they're linearly independent.

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can you show your work for linear independence? because there must be an error somewhere

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this set is not linearly indep

radiant gale
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hold on getting the picture of my work now

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Ignore the stuff that's partially offscreen I kinda shoved this work in between other stuff

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your second matrix is incorrect

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2/7(15) -2 is not 26/7

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similarly
3/7(15) - 7 is not -19/7

radiant gale
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yeah youre right

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fixed my arithmetic and now ive got a free variable

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so no independence

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would it be too much to ask for some help on finding a working basis then

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bc im not actually sure where to start lmao

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row reduce your matrix to rref

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the pivot columns in the rref matrix correspond to basis vectors in the original matrix

radiant gale
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oh okay

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yeah wait this does sound familiar

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ty

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i think i can solve it now

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hold on

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i already know my pivot columns

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i dont need to row reduce further i already know my pivots are R1 and R2

hot thistle
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then you have your basis vectors

radiant gale
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but they arent correct

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assuming im not misinputting the vectors somehow

hot thistle
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show us your answer

radiant gale
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why is that not correct?

hot thistle
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that should be correct

radiant gale
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that's what i wanna know!

hot thistle
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where does it say it’s wrong

radiant gale
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maybe i did something wrong in another part of the problem?

hot thistle
radiant gale
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all of your answers in the original problem were incorrect.

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in the future if it says “at least one,” make sure to share that with us

radiant gale
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my b

hot thistle
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but yes the other two answers are incorrect

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no problem

radiant gale
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adjusted the answer for a bc i have the actual dimension now

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and b was easy enough bc it's just true or false

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but why was b wrong?

hot thistle
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recall the definition of a basis

radiant gale
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set of vectors that you can make linear combinations of to get some vector space

hot thistle
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no

drowsy moss
hot thistle
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a basis of a vector space is:
a linearly independent set that spans the space

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key term being linearly independent

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also note how the answer to (a) was 2, meaning the number of basis vectors is 2

radiant gale
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oh shit i read the basis thm. more closely and it says that too lmao

hot thistle
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but this set has 3

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idk why but i thought the basis thm just skipped that req

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can someone please point out where i am going wrong here/

drowsy moss
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you subracted wrong, which why your answer is negative,
but you got 256/3 why did you double it?

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im not sure that it was bc i subtracted wrong

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maybe it is because i didn't add y=4x instead?

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but that would equal to 512/3 and that was wrong too

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area between curves is the integral of top function - bottom function. your top function is 4x.

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omgg ur right

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i literally told myself not to mix them up and still did 😭

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i'm still confused why you're wring 512/3?

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bc 512/3 = 8^3/3

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also i didn't enter -256/3 as an answer bc it didn't make sense to me

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should i be adding

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bc if i subtract i get a negative answer

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now you're multiplying by an extra x

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typo

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so like this

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which makes more sense

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as to why my answer was negative

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Could some confirm for me if I picked correctly

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yes that is correct

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Is there a way to represent this sum of matrix as a polynomial on a single matrix?

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For the moment, I’ve thought about quaternions but they don’t have exactly the same format

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I tried multiplying them and they are part of a group so I believe it’s impossible

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@scenic pier those matrices with b, c, and d almost look like if you square them you might get one or more of the others.

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Let's call the four matrices I, B, C, D. It looks like B^2 = C^2 = -I, and D^2 = I

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You mentioned that they were part of a group, if that's the case the group will have generators, but only a cyclic group will have a single generator

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So if you can characterize this group and show that it is not cyclic, then it will have multiple generators, and therefore cannot be characterized in a single polynomial equation.

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Hope this helps!

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When you divide 18 by 3 where does the 6 go at the top or bottom

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Numerator

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18 cancels to 6 and 3 cancels to 1

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Ok thanks

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How do you simplify this when there’s no division bar or anything

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do you know your exponent laws?

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specifically $a^m \cdot a^n = a^{m+n}$?

solar cradle
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I think so

flat frigateBOT
quasi bison
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do you know this one

solar cradle
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Umm

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I think Mayby

quasi bison
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yes or no

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there's no maybe, either you know this or you don't.

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was gonna tell you to apply this law now (twice)

solar cradle
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What do you mean twice

quasi bison
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two times

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or only once if you're ok applying it to more than two powers being multiplied.

solar cradle
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Hmm you sound like your name

quasi bison
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i beg your pardon?

solar cradle
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Like smart

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Usually Ann or teachers names

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I have a teacher named Ann

quasi bison
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this is news to me lmao

solar cradle
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Yeah Ann. Suzanne . Carol

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Edward

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Smart names

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So I plus them together

lilac patio
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old names

solar cradle
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But you agree yeah artic

lilac patio
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back to math

solar cradle
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Okay so I plus them

quasi bison
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remember that lone 8 is 8^1

solar cradle
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Ahh okay

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So 8^-5plus 8=8^-4 then plus 8^-4and it’s 8^-8

quasi bison
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bad notation

solar cradle
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Sorry

quasi bison
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but yes 8^(-5) * 8^1 * 8^(-4) = 8^(-5 + 1 + (-4)) = 8^(-8)

solar cradle
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How do I do it@like you did

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My teacher told me if I have negative exponent to put it under 1 so 1/8^-8

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Oh really

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My teacher sometimes says stuff like why did I chose this

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So your old aswell

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Not in a bad way though

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Okay so is it 1/8^-8?

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Or that’s wrong yeah

lilac patio
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1/8^8

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flipping it to the denom makes the sign change

solar cradle
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Oh yeah! I forgot

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Changed my pic aswell

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Okay is that completed

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yeah

solar cradle
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Okay thanks!!!!

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Thanks guyyys!

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pulsar night
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Can someone check this for me

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whats x

pulsar night
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the first column im assuming

lilac patio
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why would it equal 1

pulsar night
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i just took the only value in the first column

lilac patio
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thats not how it works

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that 1 means 1x

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in the 2nd column, 1y

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third, 1z

pulsar night
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oh

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wait so then 1x = 7?

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-7

pulsar night
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oh yea my b i meant -7

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solar cradle
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I know it’s completely wrong but I thought those brackets are to multiply each other?

lilac patio
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send original problem

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you should have used exponent rules instead of applying the exponents

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since the base is the same

broken yew
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The last is wrong.

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nvm theyre all wrong

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the power of x is wrong.

dense prism
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Actually only -27 is wrong

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The net power of x is correct

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2+4-3=3

broken yew
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????

solar cradle
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Umm

lilac patio
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but still

broken yew
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bruh

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thats clearly not what they meant

dense prism
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I mean sure but yeah somehow it worked out for them

solar cradle
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I just thought the brackets meant to multiply each other

dense prism
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Coincidence

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broken yew
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and just assumed the power does not distribute properly

solar cradle
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Soo

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Where did I mess up

broken yew
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also the massive spacing between each bracket made me think it wasnt

broken yew
solar cradle
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Sorry

lilac patio
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you messed up by using exponent rules first

dense prism
lilac patio
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needlessly complicating it

dense prism
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So that the net power is 3

dense prism
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Lmao

solar cradle
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Like -3 timez x?

broken yew
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You should show all steps in working and not skip maybe

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I still am not confident they have understood correctly

dense prism
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Yeah show your full work

broken yew
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at this stage

solar cradle
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Who has understood?

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Me or the people that made the question

dense prism
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Wait answer me this

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What is (5x)² equal to

solar cradle
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Itsss

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5 times 5

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Because it’s a number

dense prism
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And?

solar cradle
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So it’s 25

dense prism
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$(5x)²$

flat frigateBOT
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radiation1

broken yew
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what happened to the x.

dense prism
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You're just ignoring the x it seems

lilac patio
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combine them first! dont multiply it out like that

solar cradle
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Ummm

dense prism
solar cradle
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But I thought the 3 is related to the x

broken yew
lilac patio
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$A^B\cdot A^C=A^{B+C}$

dense prism
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They can take -3x as the common base

flat frigateBOT
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Arctic

solar cradle
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Like if it was just x and it was power to 2

broken yew
solar cradle
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Then it becounes 2x

broken yew
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for later

lilac patio
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they already did a question like this

broken yew
lilac patio
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they arent understanding that just since it has a variable you can still apply the same rules to it

solar cradle
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Uhhh

broken yew
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,,(5x)^2=???

flat frigateBOT
solar cradle
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Well I thought it’s 25x but I think it’s supposed to be 25x^2???

lilac patio
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$5^2 \cdot x^2$

broken yew
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arctic please.

flat frigateBOT
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Arctic

solar cradle
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Because x is a variable and 25 is 25 multiplied by the variable

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So

broken yew
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ok first of all

solar cradle
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I’m multiplying the x

broken yew
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variables are just numbers.

solar cradle
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By multiplying the number

broken yew
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They are no different from numbers.

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Ok?

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we could let x be 3 for example

solar cradle
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Wait soo x

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Ok

broken yew
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and suddenly i was asking you this:

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,,(5\times 3)^2=???

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broken yew
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And the answer is not 25 times 3