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remote kernel
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so is it 1:0 or just 1?

hazy elbow
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Write just 1

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okay thanks

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opaque geyser
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i'm trying to find the equation for this function, it can't be cotangent as that is not covered in this course, i initially thought it was a transformation of -x^3 but not with those asymptotes. i'd really appreciate some help.

abstract dust
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by the looks of it it is a rational function

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i.e. y=P(x)/Q(x) where P and Q are polynomials

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do you know how to identify P and Q?

opaque geyser
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i do not

abstract dust
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Check the vertical asymptotes

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they are x=-3 and x=4

opaque geyser
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right

abstract dust
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that means Q must have factors (x+3)(x-4)

opaque geyser
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i can see how that might help finding the long run pieces, what about the bit in the middle?

abstract dust
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What do you mean "bit in the middle"

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there is still a lot of information we haven't used

opaque geyser
abstract dust
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do u follow

opaque geyser
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so far i think

abstract dust
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Good

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to not overcomplicate things we can say that Q(x) = (x+3)(x-4), (we could introduce higher odd powers to (x+3) for example but that wouldn't really match the shape as it would make it flatter)

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Now we have y = P(x)/((x+3)(x-4))

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observe that we have an x-intercept at x = 3

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that means, at y=0, x=3 is a solution

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but when y=0 notice P(x) must be 0

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Therefore we can say P(x) has a factor of (x-3), and since it is the only x-intercept, we can write it as some constant times (x-3) I.e. k(x-3)

opaque geyser
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ok

abstract dust
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we now have y = k(x-3)/((x+3)(x-4))

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one thing left to consider: y-intercept

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the y intercept is at (0, 1)

abstract dust
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therefore

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y = 4(x-3)/((x+3)(x-4)) is what we are looking for

opaque geyser
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incredible, thank you

abstract dust
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👍

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loud osprey
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What single transformation could I use?

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loud osprey
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I was thinking maybe a rotation 90 degrees counterclockwise over some point but im not sure how to find that point

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raw grail
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Are you sure ABC and A'B'C' are in the right spots?

loud osprey
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Yeah there weren’t any labels so I asked my teacher.

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I was told to do so, but will it make more sense to switch them?

raw grail
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switching them won't solve the issue here

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the rigid transformations of the plane are rotations, reflections, and translations

loud osprey
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Yup

raw grail
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since the two triangles aren't even in the same orientation then translations are clearly out of the question when you're trying to find the one transformation that will do it

loud osprey
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ok

raw grail
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so we're only allows rotations or reflections really

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no matter which point you pick with the way these triangles are placed you won't be able to rotate from one to the other, at least not all in one go

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one way you can think about rotations is that the distance from every point to the center of rotation stays the same

loud osprey
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Yeah

raw grail
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so you have to find a point that is equidistant to

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A' and A, C' and C, B' and B

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but just staring at it for a bit you'll see that's not really possible

loud osprey
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That’s what I’m confused about :/

raw grail
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so the only option here is reflections

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there's no symmetry happening here

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that you can do a reflection on either

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my only conclusion is, while the triangles are clearly congruent, they're only congruent with composite transformations as shown

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if you want a single transformation to represent this, there isn't one

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so they're probably not drawn correctly

loud osprey
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Interesting

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Yeah I already found a composite transformation involving a rotation and then a translation

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Alright I’ll ask my teacher about that, thanks 🙏

raw grail
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no problem, it could just be that I'm not seeing it

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but I really don't think there is one

loud osprey
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I feel like maybe zooming out would do a little better

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mortal fractal
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I'm only getting two eigen vectors despite having a 3x3 matrix

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for part b

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wait nvm

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i got it

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lean otter
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Did i draw this synthetic division table correctly?

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I can never tell danki

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lean otter
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I'm so confused

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This can't be right

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1/(x+x^2) can not be (-1/x) + 1/(x+1)

final halo
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A is for A/(x+1), not A/x

lean otter
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final halo
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That is correct

lean otter
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i shared wrong problem

lean otter
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final halo
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Check yourself, add the fractions you got and see if you get 1/(x(x+1))

lean otter
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no?

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It doesn't work

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oh wiat

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it does

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It did it in my head like five times

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and it didn't work out

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the sixth time works

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😭

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😭 I forgot the -1 in front of x^-1

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Did i mess up?

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How did i mess up

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I don't understand why its imaginary

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oh wait

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idk

fast gazelle
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...how did you get those values?

lean otter
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$$12x+4=A(x^2+1)+B(x-3)$$
$$ x = 3$$
$$12(3) + 4 = A(3^2+1) +B(3-3)$$
$$40 = 10A$$

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Brandon H

lean otter
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$$12x+4=A(x^2+1)+B(x-3)$$
$$x=i$$
$$12(i)+4 = A(i^2+1)+B(i-3)$$
$$12(i) +4 = A(-1+1)+B(i-3)$$
$$\frac{12i +4 }{i-3} = B$$

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Brandon H

lean otter
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wolfgram says B should be 4x

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but like

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how?

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lean otter
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<@&286206848099549185> Did i do B right?
why does wolfgram show 4x.
How do i make b 4X

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Hello

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Hello

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What is b?

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Could I get a diagram

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or Image

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of the question

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Okay..

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So first you simplify and cancel where it is possible

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but in this scenario don't

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Give me a sec.

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The whole question?/

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What are you trying to ask?

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How do i get the correct B value

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Wolfgram says B = 4x

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yes... I don't get the question though

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what do u need help

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what do u need help in

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I need help with partical fraction decomposition Sit

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oh alr

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peeposmile I have no idea what i did wrong here

jade magnet
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just the last line

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idk what went wrong there

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kind patio
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y=tan^2(sec(2x^4)), does anyone know how to solve this

uneven veldt
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What is the exact question

quasi bison
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,w tan^2(sec(2*42069^4))

kind patio
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our topic right know is chain rule, Constant multiple, constant power, product quotient, so I guess a combination of that that or sumthn

jade magnet
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so you are asking for the derivative

kind patio
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yeahh

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derivative yes

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kind patio
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my bad

jade magnet
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have you tried anything

kind patio
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yeah

jade magnet
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can you send

kind patio
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yes wait

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y=16x³tan(sec(2x⁴))/(sec²(sec(2x⁴))sec(2x⁴)tan(2x⁴)

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this right?

jade magnet
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from first glance it doesnt look right but i can tell for sure if you show the work

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you split it into 3 functions no?

kind patio
jade magnet
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and used the chain rule

kind patio
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i tried again

jade magnet
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derivative of 2x^4 is?

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oh nvm i got confused since you used

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x as multiplication

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you put 2 * 4x^3 which is correct

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is correct though i didnt check your last simplification

kind patio
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so its correct?

jade magnet
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yes your last line simplifying also looks correct

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using x as multiplcation made it a lot harder for me to read 💀

kind patio
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my bad i got used to using x haha

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keen mural
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If I know through Bolzano's theorem that a function in a given interval has at least one root, can I prove there's only one root by verifying Δy/Δx>0?

keen mural
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the function is x^5 + x^3 + x - 8

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solid dragon
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What is the easiest way to solve this integral? What rules can be applied?

light shoal
queen parcel
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Rationalize denom

light shoal
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that's a standard trick when you have a difference of square roots

solid dragon
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The integral I got after rationalizing the integral is: integral(sqrt(x+2)+sqrt(x+1))

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Is this correct?

stoic dune
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I like how that works out

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Does any German want to discuss this with me?

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magic river
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convert 5i---> trig form

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magic river
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r is 5 cus

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root 25 is 5

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then

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tanx=0

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cus a is 0

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and i got

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2pi

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but is wrong

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magic river
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?

plush parrot
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idk what you mean

magic river
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like convert

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5i into trig form

plush parrot
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why is tanx = 0

magic river
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oh shit

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its

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b/a

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5/0

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its undefined then right

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dark cargo
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direct division by 0 is always undefined

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hoary nimbus
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Im doing question b if the angle is greater than 90 degrees but less than 180 shouldnt i be using the formula with a negative in front? Why is the answer key using the formula with no negative sign when it says thats only used for less than 90 degrees

stray socket
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It wanted the magnitude of the projection

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Not sure why they had -2.4

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Oh no

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Uh

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Okay this is notation stuff

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The -2.4 is what I was taught was the "projection scalar"

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So |proj| is that

hoary nimbus
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since the angle is 110 degrees

stray socket
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|v| is magnitude of v

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|proj| can be negative

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It's a notation thing, vertical bars can have multiple meanings

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|proj| is the scalar

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abs(|proj|) is the magnitude of the scalar

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So it can get confusing

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|v| is just the magnitude of v

hoary nimbus
# stray socket |v| is just the magnitude of v

i understand that part what im confused about is where it shows me 4 formulas and what needs to happen for me to use each one, so then where it says 90 < theta < 180 wouldnt i be using that one since the angle is 110

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I mean sure

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But I mean

hoary nimbus
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but the answer uses the other formula without the negative in front

stray socket
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I think it's telling you that the projection scalar can be negative if the angle is between those two values

hoary nimbus
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oh ok

stray socket
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I mean it's poorly written is what I'll say

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alr i understand ty

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A sphere of d = 6cm is dropped in a right circular Cylindrical vessel partly filled with water The diameter of cylindrical vessel is 12cm. If the sphere is completely submerged in water then the level of the water raise in the Cylindrical vessel is

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cinder creek
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!status

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why close immediately after opening lmao

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Im new xd

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ok well

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cinder creek
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on the prblm right?

quasi bison
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yes obviously, what else

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ls wld y lk t by ' vwl

cinder creek
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so I have found the volume of the sphere

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it is 37.71 cc

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and idk what to do next

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"also would you like to buy a vowel"

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but with all the vowels removed, like you did with the word "problem" for no reason

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this does not answer my question...

cinder creek
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the sphere is submereged into the cylindrical vessel which already has some water in it

quasi bison
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ok let me rephrase this

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you found that the volume of the sphere is 37.71 cm^3. i'll take your word for that.

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if you poured 37.71 cm^3 of water into an otherwise empty cylindrical vessel of the same diameter as yours,
how high would the water level be?

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do you know how to find the volume of a cylinder in general?

cinder creek
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yes

quasi bison
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the water poured into a cylindrical vessel itself forms a cylinder

cinder creek
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yes

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with the same r

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if you poured 113.14 cm^3 of water into an otherwise empty cylindrical vessel of the same diameter as yours,
how high would the water level be?
the water level is the height of said cylinder

cinder creek
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ok ic wat ur trying to tell

quasi bison
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so now i am asking you to find the height of the cylinder knowing its radius (or rather the diameter) and volume

cinder creek
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so is it correct

quasi bison
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seems like it.

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I need help on this thing

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lost timber
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I got m = 2

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so what I did was do mx=(x-2)^2+4 and substitute number into x

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and find m

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I got 2 from this

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am I doing it correctly ? or I need to change the way I solve this

spice grove
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You're solving it for a given x.

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But you have to consider all the cases.

lost timber
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oh

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Even x values like -sqrt{65}

lost timber
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I see

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Not so easy to put those and check, is it?

lost timber
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so I can't usethat method

spice grove
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Yeah.

lost timber
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yeah

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you have mx = (x-2)^2 + 4

lost timber
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mhm

spice grove
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Rewrite this as,
x^2-(4+m)x+4=0

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This is now a quadratic in x.

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Are you able to tell, when or when not a quadratic will have roots?

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Real roots that is.

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spice grove
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Okay let's start over.

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can you expand (x-2)^2

lost timber
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yep

spice grove
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Do it.

lost timber
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x^2 -4x +4

spice grove
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Okay it doesn't transform into what I wrote earlier.

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It should be +8

spice grove
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(original equation)

lost timber
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x^2 -4x + 8 -mx

spice grove
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Yes.

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Might as well rewrite that as, x^2-(4+m)x +8

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Now, do you know when or when not a quadratic has REAL roots?

lost timber
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ohhh

spice grove
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That's a question, ohh doesn't help.

lost timber
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square root b^2 - 4ac > 0

spice grove
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=

lost timber
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?

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oh ye

spice grove
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Yeah, that's what you have to do.

lost timber
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okay I'll try that

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tysm

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Hi great math fellows, sorry got a stupid algebra question.
So I was trying to solve following

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I came up with

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Lol

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But textbook stated the correct solution should be

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What's the goal here?

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Factorization?

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Yes, factorization, and graph transformation. my solution won't help much about transformation

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None of these forms are factorized forms

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You cant add constant terms

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It has to be just multiplication

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Try factoring out an x from the original polynomial

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The expected solution actually added +1-1, then factor out the x^3-3x^2+3x-1

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Figured it out, got the pattern
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Hi, is this limit correct? Many calculators say it should give 0 but I don’t think the computing takes into account the x

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the limit of a function isnt equivalent to a function

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but the function is

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sin(x) is equivalent to x for x ≈ 0

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Sure, and here we have x/2n ≈ 0 for n going to infinity

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yes

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Then could this change be applied for computing the limit?

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its correct but sometimes its better to use bigger order for the Taylor expansion

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Sure I’ll try Taylor

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f(x) is equivalent to g(x)
not lim f(x)

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But it is possible to compute limits using infinitesimal equivalents, right? How couldn’t it be in this case

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it is but your redaction is wrong

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thats what im saying

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You mean this is correct?

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now its good

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I don't know where to start

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A condition when doing this question applies and that is to not use the cosine or sine rule to find a solution

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Look up the properties of a 30 60 90 triangle.

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Then you know the lefthand triangle is 45 45 90

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Apparently it needs to be solved by SOHCAHTOA

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Ok, so then use SOH CAH TOA. Do you know how to apply it?

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yh but there are too many unknown sides

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The problem does not seem to restrict you using standard properties of triangles.

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Why can't you just use 30 60 90?

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our teacher said so

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You can then use soh cah toa to find the segment of the left triangle

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ok got the ans

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thx

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i used the 30 60 90 tri rule

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hopefully my teacher would accept

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You can use soh cah toa to find that line as well since you have 30 degrees and the hypotenuse

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yh

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I am late smh

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For any two sets of A and B, prove that A ′ ∪B=U⇒A⊂B.

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i havent really done anything

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do you know how to prove subsets?

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i do

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nono

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oh nvm

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no, A' is probably the complement of A

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I misunderstood

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A' union B is equal to uni

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I apologies.

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then we have to prove a is a subset of B

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well you can think informally at first, at least

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assume x is in A

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ok

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certainly x must be in U as well

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go on

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yeah

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but you're given an "alternate definition" for U in the antecedent, right

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holy

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that might be enough actually

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thanks a lot man

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How do I show that either equals exp(θi)

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RHS is the binom expansion of LHS (obv)

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can you use the limit definition of e?

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that a question to me? or a question to the question, as in are there any restrictions to how i'd be solving it

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do you not see why it's true or do you have to prove it a certain way

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Doesn't specify but let's say we don't use the limit def of e

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then i dont know either haha

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otherwise that would js be straight forward

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unless it goes too deep into the maths lore

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i mean it is straightforward

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I'll ask chatgpt

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let's see if it'll do sum

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chatgpt isn't particularly good and reasoning and maths

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so it might confidently do an illegal step

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sotrue it says that equals 1

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not even surprised

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well i need some videos that'll help me find a nice proof that equals exp(theta i)

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do you know why it is e^itheta?

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this looks like you just asked it the wrong question

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final halo
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thats the exact thing you wrote? bc it looks like you asked it what the limit of 1 + ((theta i)/n)^n is

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Okay maybe a better question would be how would i prove the RHS is exp(theta i) or possibly instead of theta i let's say a in place of theta i in the summand

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You would first have to say what your definition of exp(a) is

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as in exp(a) def= lim n to infty (1+a/n)^n or lim n to 0 (1+n)^(a/n) or the sum def?

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it's quite iffy sometimes

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i mean idk my q has no purpose was js curious

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how do I solve this qs on the calculator

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how to do part iv?

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Ik that x = rcos(theta)

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because that's not the case

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you know you can just replace the r with y

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we're just trying to figure out what the maximum value is of r

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which sounds same if you're trying to find out the maximum value of the function f(x)=1+cos(2theta)

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its polar coordinates

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you have to express it in terms of x and y

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I need to find the radius of this circle, pls help

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I need to find the radius of this circle, pls help

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Anything come out at you with AOB?

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Split it in half and you have two right angles triangles

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You need another piece of information still though

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yeah and idk how to figure it out

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Okay well we are probably going to be looking for an angle within the triangle or the height of O

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Just looking at your diagram you can possibly use power of a point and tangent-secant theorem

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PC^2 = PA. PB = 24 so PC = 2sqrt(6) = x
S = sqrt((x+2+3)(x+2-3)(x+3-2)(3+2-x))/4 = sqrt(23)/4
Draw AH perpendicular to CP. We get AH = S/2sqrt(6) . 2 = sqrt(138)/24
Call M the midpoint of AC. AM = 1
Using sin law you know AM/r = AH/AC
So r = 8sqrt(138)/23 or 4.09
You could easily do this using tasman suggestion but you don't even try to think a little more. How could this simple question make a secondary student waste 9 hours!

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Damn this been up for 12hs

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Can v=(3,1) not be written (3,1,0)?

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just apply a linear transformation on u_2 (what transfomation?)

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,w 90 deg rotation matrix

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just pick a 3d rotation matrix

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do you know where to start at least

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you are given two sides, its a right angled triangle, what could you do

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like pathagerioum?

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6sqrt35 I got

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so then do I use law of sine?

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just use sohcahtoa

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First label the sides,
So 52 will be h, 38 will be a

use soh cah toa to find the trig equation which has h and a
then substitute in

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why you using sin

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use cos

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you got adjacent side and hypotenuse

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I mean didn't we get the final side tho?

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alr I'll use cos

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why would you need the final side

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you have two already

crisp mica
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true ig

lean otter
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cosx = 38 / 52

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solve for x

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19/26

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0.73

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yo richard

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do you think that even makes sense

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nah but I got that in the online calculator

lean otter
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you solved for cosx

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solve for x

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cosx = 0.73 how would you find x

crisp mica
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cos-1 thing?

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yeah

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I forgot so its cos -1 = what?

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x = cos^-1 (38/52)

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alr thx

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How do you get rid of a numerator by chance?

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0.89 = 343/(343+x)

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Im aware of how to remove denominator, but what would you do when you need to get rid of the top?

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ok so

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blissful locust
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Should i times both sides by the denom & move the 0.89 over?

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Ohh okay!

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So then itd be 343 + x = 343/0.89?

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no

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ok

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wait a sec

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Okay

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Wait

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Remove the top?

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I don't get it

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Ahh yes, i was wondering how to isolate the denom

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Hm

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i get it hold on

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0.89 = 343/(343+x)
(343+x) times 0.89=343

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Isolate the denom?

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Wait then you're right

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are we solving for x?

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Yes

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I ended up getting 42.39

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Thank you two for the help

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np

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When solving for x intercepts on quadratic equations you set y = zero , and solve , if its ax^2+bx+c you will have to factor, usually you'll get 2 factors for 2 x-intercepts, but what if you get a quadratic equation with a GCF so like 2(x-6) (x+4)

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what's the problem?

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There is no problem (yet at least) its a concern for what to do when encountering 3 factors or 2 factors with a gcf

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Im pretty sure you distribute the factor the gcf is attached to but I saw a weird video where this guy ignored it

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and then 3 factors what do u even do because your solving for 2 x-intercepts for a parabola

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you just want to solve the equation?

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when you want to solve something like this, there's no distribution needed

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how do I know your right

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what part of this don't you understand?

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ok but what if

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it was 2x(x-6) (x+4)

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then you have 3 factors what do you do then, cause there can only be 2 x-intercepts

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there is no way you can factor a quadratic equation into something like that, only 2 x intercepts

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so if its a cubic quadratic equationm and you end up with 3 factors like 2x(x-6) (x+4) or (x+1) (2x^2-3) (2x^2+3)

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you'll never be asked to plot/solve x-intercepts for a parabola

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?

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no?

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it stemmed from a perfect square

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(4x^2-9)

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thats why

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its like that

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what do you call it then

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(2x²)²=4x^4

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so it's not a cubic here

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4x^3+4x^2-9x-9

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4x^2(x+1) -9(x+1)

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2x * 2x = 4x^2

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yeah but you wrote (2x^2) in your first message

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I didnt provide the other math mb

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would f(x) = x^2 be wider or narrower than g(x)= 1/3x^2

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wouldnt that be saying 1/3<1

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the graph would be narrower

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can someone explain how he got from these 3 equations to this 4th degree polynomial?

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i mean i havent tried, its too messy

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but perharps you take the last equation - the first equation to get 0

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Then you square this equation

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you should something with a^4 inside, and we know we can express a^4 can be expressed as b^4+ something

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could be wrong tho, i havent tried. and you might get a b^3 term but it should cancel out to 0, if it doesnt then im defintiely wrong

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polar knot
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i dont understand what this means?

safe radishBOT
polar knot
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what A means

lean otter
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it wants you to find the number of students who play hockey AND tennis, and NOT football

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what zone on the venn diagram corresponds to that

polar knot
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i know but

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what does the in terms of x mean

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i mean obviously is

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F prime n (H n T)

lean otter
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you wont get an explicit answer

polar knot
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but when i wrote it my teacher said im wrong

lean otter
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just use x as a variable

polar knot
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so i dont know what i did wrong

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so its F'n(HnT)?

lean otter
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no that is not what your answer should look like

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your answer should be a number with x as well

polar knot
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but theres an x in the middle

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or do i ginore it

lean otter
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you dont ignore it

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you account for it

polar knot
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how is x both

lean otter
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when calculating how many people there are

polar knot
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the term to express

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all three sports

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and at the same time

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the people who only lpay

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tennis and hockey

lean otter
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because you want to subtract

polar knot
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it says in terms of x

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doesnt that mean x =

lean otter
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no

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i'll give you an example

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this isnt the correct answer

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you should write something like

polar knot
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ok

lean otter
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30 - x

polar knot
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ok

hazy elbow
polar knot
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i did

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give me a second

safe radishBOT
polar knot
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isnt it just 7-x?

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7 play hockey and tennis, thus only hockey and tennis = 7-x

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ok

hazy elbow
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Yess

lean otter
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yeah

polar knot
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i thought it was gonna be harder

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ok then i have another question

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nevermind

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thanks guys

lean otter
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its only one point so it couldnt be that hard. you can generally assume the difficulty of a question given how many points you get. just a tip for future reference

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thanks

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modest holly
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modest holly
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can u explain?

polar knot
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2 - as in factoring?

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or vertex form*

proud pewter
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here we can see that D>0 for the eqn

modest holly
proud pewter
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therefore it must have 2 roots

proud pewter
modest holly
proud pewter
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now for step 2 you find the roots of eqn

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did you find them?

modest holly
polar knot
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yes

proud pewter
modest holly
polar knot
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what

modest holly
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its 02

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-2*

polar knot
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-2 is not >1

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you can still factor

modest holly
polar knot
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though

proud pewter
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also you should know for a fact that if a<0 then the eqn is downward parabola

polar knot
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here

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-2x^2 + 12x + 32

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factor out the -2

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-2(x^2-6x-16)

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now factor

proud pewter
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take -2 common if youre having trouble

modest holly
polar knot
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-2(x-8)(x+2)

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thus

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x = 8, -2

modest holly
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wait

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im confused

polar knot
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okay ill exaplin

proud pewter
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which std are you in?

modest holly
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so you factored first by dividing -2

polar knot
modest holly
polar knot
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heres the equation right?

proud pewter
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go ahead

polar knot
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so a = -2

modest holly
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so we divide

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by -2

polar knot
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and because a is a negative, we know the parabola opens down

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no wait

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and because the c = 32

modest holly
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then what

polar knot
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you mean like

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35x^2 + 12x + 36

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?

modest holly
polar knot
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it just means

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the parabola hits the y axis

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at (0, 35)

modest holly
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so what would we do

polar knot
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you still can

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just do 35/2

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keep it as a fraction

modest holly
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u can do that?

polar knot
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yes...

modest holly
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i thought we had to find common

polar knot
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why not?

modest holly
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numbers

polar knot
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thats completing the square

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i mean

modest holly
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is there any easier way?

polar knot
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uh

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theres the quadratic formula

modest holly
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because i heard if a>1 then we need to divide by a

polar knot
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but thats harder

modest holly
polar knot
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if a != 0

modest holly
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because i dont need roots

polar knot
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why dont you need roots

modest holly
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wait i still dont get the answer

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its asking where it will inc

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where does it inc?

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hello?

polar knot
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sorry

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i was getting water

modest holly
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ur good

polar knot
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let me explan

modest holly
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k

polar knot
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okay its kinda hard to explain give me some time to think

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how to explain the best way

modest holly
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k

polar knot
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okay r u here?

modest holly
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ye

polar knot
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alright so we have a parabola right?

polar knot
modest holly
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yea

polar knot
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now your question asks

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what form can you see to answer teh question most efficiently

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and the question is to find

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all the intervals where f of x is increasing

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increasing

modest holly
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yes

polar knot
modest holly
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well no

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since it is negative

polar knot
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yup

modest holly
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so we are basically finding the vertex?

polar knot
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so if u select the box

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how many options are there?

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can you show me them?

modest holly
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what box

polar knot
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it says

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choose the form

modest holly
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ohh it has standard form, vertex form, and factored form

polar knot
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isnt that the question?

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its not asking for the interval right?

modest holly
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wdym?

polar knot
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its weird here

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are you meant to answer in the interval where f(x) is increasing

modest holly
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you have to find the interval/point

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yea

polar knot
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or the form

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oh

modest holly
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not the form

polar knot
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this is null right

modest holly
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idk

polar knot
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then the answer should be null

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cuz it doenst increase

modest holly
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but we never learned that

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so it cant be null

polar knot
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im still confused as to why it asks for the form, if your answer doenst include it

polar knot
modest holly
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no

polar knot
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what does the question want

modest holly
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it asks for form so we can find where the interval increases

polar knot
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the form

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there is no interval increase

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the interval increase is null

modest holly
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the vertex is the inc

polar knot
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why

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how

modest holly
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because its the maximum point

polar knot
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but the parabola opens DOWN

modest holly
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it isnt null

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i tried it

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i got 4 more tried

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tries*

polar knot
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are you sure its because you didnt choose the form correctly

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im pretty sure its a 2 part qustion

modest holly
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no

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just 1 part

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the form is just to help

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you

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find the interval

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of where it increases

polar knot
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choose vertex form and put null

modest holly
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im just going to press find solution

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should i

polar knot
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no

modest holly
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ok

polar knot
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choose vertex and put null

modest holly
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vertex form

polar knot
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yes

modest holly
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this is vertex form?

polar knot
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put bul

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null

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yes thats vertex form