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And will the s scores provide me with enough information to graph this
How do I find the z score
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no idea how the fuck to do this
my brain is about to shatter
I don't get what it means
the way they word it is like they're not even speaking english
What is the cost of making 1 desk
110
Plus the fixed cost
That is the "cost of doing business". Meaning, if they sell 0 desks, they have still spent $27600 up-front. So that is always factored into the cost, right?
What you need to find is $C(x)$ where $x$ is the number of desks. So it will be $C(x) = 27600 + something$
cwatson
uh sorry
but how do i find n
number of desks that need to be produced so that the average cost per desk is 170
Sorry then $C(n)$. So you guessed correctly that each additional desk costs $110 to make, right
So what is the cost formula
hey uh sorry but would it be
the total cost over n
and since we have the average
would it be
170 = total cost/n
so do i solve from there?
Well "total cost" will also have a n in its expression, too. But yes
hey sorry but how do i solve from there?
170= 27600 + 110 per desk over n
how do i solve from there?
do i start by moving across the n?
uh huh
hmmm
wait a sec
@primal kelp
i'm sorry can you help
I literally do not understand
how to solve for it
?
is 110 per desk different from n
move values around
honeslty i have no idea, i just looked at where you were at and just knew you had to find for n
lemme just have a look at the question
ok
170 = 27600 + 110n
correct equation
now you make it so that n is the subject
so
-110n = 27600 - 170
?
go on
i got it
i skipped a step and found something
it was like
170 = 27600 + 110n over n
=
170n = 27600 + 110n
60n = 27600
n = 460
thank you for trying to help though
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how did you get 170n
cause it's over n
like i said earlier
you move n to the left
= 170 n = 27600 + 110n
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bro u doin sorcery shit i aint ever seen
ok so
the original equation was
170 = 27600 + 110n
oh i see
just forgot one more value
sicko mode
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I don't understand in my notes here something. It's about series in calculus
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You can rewrite any fraction as a decimal so we wanted to try one
But here i don't understand why we chose .035 as our "a" and not 1
Because the decimal starts with 1 so i thought it's be that
the ratio will be a power of ten, here 10^3
if you take 1 as your first term then you will have 1.001001001001...
Do you mean 10^(-3)? I don't get why it's be 10^3
I don't understand what the 1 does then
Or what the "a" does
oh yes sorry typo
Np
the a is the first term in your geometric series
in terms of decimals it is the first occurrence of the repeating pattern
and there may very well be some other stuff prior to that!
So if i wanna look at a decimal and find a fraction from it, i should first ignore the thing that doesn't repeat and just add that on later right
Then how exactly do you find what the "a" is?
i should first ignore the thing that doesn't repeat and just add that on later right
yes
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Why did the n start at 1 instead of 0 after he took the derivative of the sum?
you can do it but ultimately it would be 0
yeah the n=0 term works out to a constant
oh ok n=0 is 0 so theres no point i see
Yeah
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yeh u got it
Thank you Walter white
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Guys im on the way to my test and i had someone help me with this yesterday and this will definitely be on my exam but i am stuck on this
Divide by 3
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$AB = 4(A+B)$ \
$2B = 8 + 4B$ \
$B = -4$
\implies
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$AB = 4(A+B) \ \implies 2B = 8+4B \ \implies B = -4$
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yes, i can see that
.
it is the question's fault
if the product of the two integers is four times the sum
AB = 4(A+B) is the correct equation
I wouldn't say so
its stating that the product of a and b is four times that of a+b
??
yeah so ?
i don't follow @misty coral
are you sure you are not talking out of your ass?
how much is at stake for answering this question in particular, btw?
potentially
I think if you solve it as 4 * ab = a+b you would get some fractional bs anyway
lemme read it again slowly 
im not sure what you are talking about
who, me or clarkie?
clarkie
i thought my equation was correct
it is
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How do I solve this? I’m completely stuck. Can someone solve it and give me a step by step explanation pls thanks
is that a g or a 9?
I think that's a nine
I surmised it after looking at that one looking like a tent
G

Can you please solve it and send a step by step type of thing pls
so are we solving for g in terms of a variable x?
for g?

in which case kill me now
what are you solving for
I misread your problem. I see now that these are steps within the same problem. I thought these were three separate givens.
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Are you sure that's not a nine? Isn't the red writing on the bottom left (0,96)?
Here you go, I'm rather certain that's a nine.
Can you explain the steps pls?
Still can someone explain for me:/
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I actually have quite a few problems I'm struggling with involving polynomials. I had covid and missed 6 days of school and I don't understand how to classify them. One example is 9x²y⁴
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what did I do wrong here guys?
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How would j do this?
,rccw
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what is sine of log6 * log2/son3
sin3 hehe
i mean
please help someone 🙂
sine 3 is teta of which logarithmic function?
thank you in advance.
You're looking for $\sin\left(\log(6) \cdot \frac{\log(2)}{\sin(3)}\right)$?
tatpoj
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i have a table of values and need to find a function for it
this is what it looks like im just having trouble trying to find a function
i wanted to use y=mx+b
but there is no common difference in the y terms
for what purpose to do you want the function for
to relate to the data points either passing through a majority of them or be close
when i graph it in sheets
i get a function
my question is what are you going to do with the function
i just dont know how they got it lol
linear regression probably
i need to make one that relates to the data thats all
"need" for what purpose
what are you going to do with the function
i've asked 3 times now
show the original question
Choose better data
lol aight nvm
Or accept this will be mediocre
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can someone explain this step
It’s the chain rule for functions of three variables. It’s not a step but the starting point.
ahh okay ty, I only knew the old one
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How do I find last part?
I have the area when t=10 and t=100, but what's the formula for finding the total area?
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What did you do, to find the area for 5 ≤ x ≤ 10 and 5 ≤ x ≤ 100?
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what do we do for the case when x=0?
how do we proceed after lambda=2y^2/5
lagrange multipliers btw
like i know the minimum is at +-sqrt5
but i wanna test when x=0 now
Uh
What's your constraint and original function
Well I see the original
What's the constraint
It's a bit hard to follow your work
oh ok
sorry about that
btw
is this a valid solution to the problem?
i have multiple ways of doing it
i just wanna know if im doing it right
Yeah I'm not familiar with the way you're doing it. I usually try to find nil gradients of the lagrangian
wdym
nil?
Lemme type it out
gz=-y
Typically I would let $f(x,y,z) = x^2 + y^2 + z^2$, and then I let the constraint equal to zero, so $g(x,y,z) = x^2 - yz - 5$. I would build the Lagrangian:
$$L(x,y,z,λ) = f(x,y,z) + λ\cdot g(x,y,z)$$
Then I would try to find its nil gradient:
$$\del L(x,y,z, λ) = \vecb{0,0,0,0}$$
Umbraleviathan
i always saw it as fx, fy, fz=lambda gx gy gz
This
well its just lambda=fx/gx
well u dont have to do it that way
does this make more sense?
since 2x-2xlambda=0?
Well you have a system:
$$\begin{align*}
2x + 2xλ &= 0 \
2y - zλ &= 0 \
2z - yλ &= 0 \
x^2 - yz - 5 &= 0
\end{align*}$$
Hopefully I did the shit right in my head lol
And you found that x can equal to 0
Ooh yeah that's uh
That implies that lambda can be anything then
Not sure if that'll work
wat
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Then it should be possible to solve when x = 0
LaGrange multipliers state that for a function, $f(A)$ optimized with the constraint of $g(A) = 0$, then:
$$L(A, λ) = f(A) + λ \cdot g(A)$$
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Well it's a system of equations so then it boils down to 3 equations with 3 unknown variables
i dont get how u did that
Get what?
This?
In mathematical optimization, the method of Lagrange multipliers is a strategy for finding the local maxima and minima of a function subject to equality constraints (i.e., subject to the condition that one or more equations have to be satisfied exactly by the chosen values of the variables). It is named after the mathematician Joseph-Louis Lagra...
Oh that's because $\pdv{L}{\lambda} = x^2 - yz - 5$
Umbraleviathan
yeah
Look how I defined L
wat
i dont get that
I haven't gotten around for all proving the Lagrangian function, like I know it's conceptuals.
If you read this:
This is how I was taught it
If you plug in x = 0, you're left with 3 equations
Then you can solve for y, z, and lambda
yeah
but i cant solve for y z and lambda
well u can solve it when lambda equals 1
but what about when x=0
like this
@stray socket okay tell me this
if y^2=z^2
then does +-y=+-z?
is that valid?
Yes
Yes
Yes
but its valid to say that
y=+-z right?
and that z=+-y
and -y=+-z
right?
if so then im gud
yeah
Doesn't matter if you add or subtract f(A) and λ g(A)
kk
It'll just change the sign of the multiplier I'm pretty sure
But we don't really care about the value of the multiplier lol
what is the multiplier
wait
jsut want to say again
y=+-z is valid right
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.yeah
.lambda
.you'll find that the algebra is the most painful part of LaGrange multipliers
i have a question
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Is this correct?
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I guess my question is if the integer is 0, is a multiplicative inverse always undefined?
and if modulo is negative, is it always undefined as well?
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It just doesn't make sense to me
It’s just the remainder no?
no, you're finding the multiplicative inverse
But don’t you agree 0 mod 1 = 0
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I’m not exactly sure how to find the range of x here, I’ve done this before without variables and just whole numbers but the variables are confusing me
you are supposed to use the Triangle Inequality and solve for x.
Yeah but how
looks like you were on your way, but I didn't check your work yet. Why did you stop?
I didn’t know where to go from there
Ok
think it's ||18 > x||
oh
and x would have to be bigger than 3, obviously
so 3 < x < 18
Let me get a pic of my work
10x-30 > 4x+48
That’s the sum of the top two sides are greater than the bottom side
where are you getting 10x - 30?
sum of top two is 5x + 45
i meant x - 3 + 9x - 27
this work doesn't explain (to me) how you decided that the upper right side was the longest
I guess it isn't too close though
I am just not sure
I can make a quick spreadsheet
Process of elimination
I didn’t show it in my work though
I mean there's a switchover at x >15 for the longest side
@lean otter why do you think x must be greater than 13?
That’s what I got when I did this right here
that side doesn't need to be the longest side though
oh wait
yes
you are right
after x=13, the sum of any two exceeds the measure of the third
good job!
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Jshy <3
but since the 3 in this case is on the denominator
$\frac{\sqrt3}{3}=\sqrt{\frac{3}{3^2}}$
Jshy <3
Am I correct with this?
@strange plaza yup
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Over reals, cauchy implies convergent and convergent implies cauchy right?
But under the rationals
it only goes convergent -> caughy right?
ALSO
Differentiality -> Continuity
& also
Continuity -> Integrabilty
all arrows imply one way implications
correct?
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h
yeah so my problem is related to sets
wait a sec
posting
I do not understand does does -n[A∩B∪A∩C] converts to n ( A ∩ B ) + n ( A ∩ C ) – n (A ∩ B ∩ C)
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For 9b i dont get why u cant equate 3theta-alpha to -90
instead u equate to 270 but i dont get why
just because its positive? in part a the only restrictions are on alpha and R
Agree with you tbh - they should have e.g. stated the value of theta should be positive or something 
oh i thought it was just me lol
i got an angle from the -90 and when u sub in it generates the minimum required
but its wrong
Which page number is that?
195 on digital
aight give me a second to see what mine has, and the solution banks too
u have this textbook? what
Hmmm I thought I did but it's an older copy on my side 
Let me search whether the solution banks say anything about it
Hmmm yea the solution banks I found don't match up 
Yea that personally imo wouldn't count because it's not relevant to part b
The fact that they don't say something like "the minimum positive value of theta" or something is bad form and they should have, so it's an issue to the book
past papers shud be better
ye im not huge fan of our book
[because arguably there are infinitely many you could choose from lol]
yeah
someone made a massive document with all the errors LOL
How on earth can they be getting worse from the copy that I had 

They're like evolving, but backwards 
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How do I solve this, none of the methods I know line up with the answer choices?
The answers to the first one are .420, .387, .393
what methods are you trying
Well like, trying to put the interval through the function, and then use those to find the average rate of of change
show work
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what's the best way to find 17^6 remainder 7 by hand?
Use the same trick you just got shown in your last channel
Oh you are, I'm just illiterate
lol i was a bit confused for a sec
is that little fermat's theorem
whoa
Fermat's little theorem is a special case of Euler's theorem
you literally just edited that as i responded, the timing was so coincidental lol.
Little fermat 🤗
I tend to stick to positive numbers when modding, then just mod as you go
Even if you get the chance to reduce the number to -1? E.g. 8^64 mod 3
so for little fermat's theorem, I do 3^7-1, right?
3^(7-1)?
i guess i forgot the theorem
🤷 it'll get to 1 eventually in that case.
8 mod 3 = 2
2 ^2 = 4 = 1 mod 3
1^32 = 1 mod 3.
It directly implies that this number is congruent to 1 because 6 is 1 less than 7 and 7 is coprime to 17
Ik, but reducing to -1 seems to be the quickest thing
so how do i do little fermat's theorem?
$17^{7-1}=1\mod7$
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does anyone have any ideas on what differential equation im supposed to find,, im not sure what the question is referring to exactly
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so i get that the x intercepts are 7 and 1
bc i expanded it and got
√[(7 - x)(1 - x)]
but idk how to graph it
mate
ya
i just said here what i did and got
but just not sure how to graph it
idk if i have enough info
so sqrt of 16- and upside down parabola
whats 4?
wdym?
root 16
ye
where does it go
wdym
ik its the distance between the x intercepts
4 is the maximum value of y
sorry its -1 not 1
when x=3
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Could someone tell me if I'm solving these partial fraction problems correctly? I just want to know if I go the process down.
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I'm not on any time limit, if you could check all 3 I'd appreciate it. I just want to know if I'm understanding the concept correctly.
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is this the correct way to find local minimums and maximums?
lets fuckin goooooo
what do you do tho if you have higher order functions?
like lets say you ended up with a first derivative with a polynomial of order 5 or somethn
hope that its easy to factor and/or find roots of
theres no general formula for roots of degree 5 or higher polynomials
so if there was no easy trick or roots easy to spot then you'd have to use numerical methods
ah, will you generally only be asked at least at a lower level to find stuff like this of polynomials like order 3 or lower?
i would imagine yes
or certain 4th order ones that are 2nd orders in disguise
like x^4 + 5x^2 + 6
no worries, keep at it
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when u subbing this, why can't u=x+1?
yes u can do it by u=x+1
how
how does that happen
now substitute u=x+1 and u will get ur answer
Nope
$\tan^{-1}(x) = \int \frac{1}{1+x^2}$
here, where does the 3 go?
3 integration du/u^2+2^2= 3/2 tan^-1(u/2)
latex pls 😭
idk where the 3 went and why u did 2^2
okay i get it
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i need help pls
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okay, first, it says that triangle XYZ and triangle BAC are similar
can you name me similar sides of these triangles?
triangle XYZ is similar to triangle ABC
You occupied two help channels, you have to close one of them!
if triangles are similar, it means that its corresponding angles are congruent and corresponding sides are in equal proportion
can you name me their similar sides? [ for example, side XZ is similar to side CB]
yz similar to ab
hmm, actually it is not :/
okaaay, let's try angles then! Can you name me matching angles?
Angles of similar triangles are congruent, so it means that their trigonometric functions are equal!
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Is anyone here familiar with numerical method but more specific Euelrs method?
This is all I got if it helps, I’m not too familiar but maybe this helps a bit
That does look familiar let me think
You see the equation are very similar
in the first one its h/2
and times hfxn,yn)
but in the bottom its not h*f only f
so i wonder if it is the same
I've found all of these in my attempt to understand Heun's method
perhaps you can call someone who has already graduated in to assist us
cos i am truly in the same boat
It’s currently 4:20 am 😦
I swear something like that was on this week’s slides but I don’t have it 😦 maybe I can get it on Monday
Unless the lecturer replies on a Sunday which I doubt
I understand
But i mean other people in this discord server
Are perhaps inclined to support us
Is what i mean
Hmm I think they are the same, the h/2 thing has something to do with Taylor series but I can’t remember rn
Ah maybe, This might go into advanced section though
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@wooden oyster is this from the projectile motion page?
please
This time around it is actually in english
This the equation for solving with heuns method
where did you get this?
yeah
y with the squiggly line is fully expanded in this one
they're the same
but you can combine these two to get the same
context?
as $dt$ ?
hannibal
$d/dt$ might be operated onto the stuff on the left
hannibal
not as dt
but i've never seen it isolated like that. can you screenshot more of the doc?
but as how i showed in the picture
ok
$\Delta t$ ?
hannibal
context
using Eulers method to approximate the curve of an object being throw with a field with drag force
seeing how close we can getr
That is what i've written
it might be a differential?
$dv_{n+1} = -\frac{C_d \rho A v^2}{2m}dt$
where a and b is the stuff in the numerator and denominator
if you differentiate this, you get that
hannibal
wdym im confused
this doesn't make sense as is
the acceleration due to air-resistance is
$a = -\frac{C_d \rho A v^2}{2m}$
hannibal
alr
thank u tho
no worries
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How could this question be visualised?
I was thinking a tree diagram
but thats a bit much...
Other than listing all the possibilities out, I don't know what else to do
Trees are the only way Ik
Or binomial distributions
Which isn’t rlly a visualisation, but another way of representing trees like this
You don’t need to draw the entire tree, just the parts that are relevant for you
For me example, for a b e f id jusy draw a tree with the outcome of 6 and 6’(not 6)
Are you stuck on any in particular?
Not anymore, using the method you stated I can understand how I can write it out.
Thank you
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So I got the derivitive and set it equal to 0 to find where the slope = 0
but I cant solve without x and dont know where to find the range of t with that information
for the derivitive I have 0 = x^2 + tx + 1
determine when that doesn't have real solutions
considering stuff like the discriminant
I guess its confusing me cause I have to find a value t for all values of x
don't get intimidated by the presence of t in your quadratic equation in x
approach it like you would any other quadratic equation
apply certain properties to get another equation and solve that
there's no nice factorisation for this
I guess using the discrminant
I get t^2-4
so if t is < 2 or > -2 then the discriminant would be negative so no solutions
yeah
so
but still in that case I have two answers so that dosent really make sense
so Im probably doing something wrong
There is an option for none of these
yes
ah okay
oh yeah
thats what i meant lol
okay thanks that helped a lot i didnt consider the discriminant
I was gonna ask why discriminant but you said this
Well I guess he gave you that hint
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Hello great mathematicians. Could someone giving me some hint(or external resource) regarding when we need to go for partial fraction rather u-substitution when integrating fractional equations?
I tried to integrate following integral using u-sub by u = e^x + 1, and (1/e^x)du=dx to let me integral the known 1/u, but it seems I'm wrong, and partial fraction decomposition method should be used.
So is there any rule or trick about that? How to find out when method hsould be used?
Thank you for your time and consideration.
that usub works but you did not substitute dx correctly back in
if du = e^x dx then du / e^x = dx
but e^x = u-1
so dx = du / (u-1)
Thank you very much indeed.
Oh, wow. yes I see that now, that's something I should practice more probably regarding u-sub, so if e^x becomes u-1, then it will be 1/u^2-u which ultimately lead us to partial fraction I suppose.
So does it mean everytime I use u-sub, I need to check if du could be presented as u and substitute that as well?
Thanks
yes, your integral can only have u’s in it after usub (you cannot have both x’s and u’s)
Oh, that x is the point, I'm sorry I'm not really smart.
Thank you very much for your time, wonderful.
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I have to optimise a cylinder to have the lowest surface area possible
But it has a fixed volume of 600cm3
I already have the answer I just want to make sure it’s right
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I don't see anything wrong with it
Ok thanks
Yeah sure
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Hello, I was just looking at my sibling's text book he's in grade 6 and his book says that BODMAS stands for "Brackets, Of, Division and Multiplication, and Addition and Subtraction."
order?
there are a lot of different versions of this mnemonic
in my day we used pemdas
Yes which refers to the operation of raising a number to a power, which takes precedence over both multiplication and division.
Probably exponentials equivalence
but doesn't of and multiplication mean the same thing?
It kinda does
ive never heard of
like if we say 1/2 of 4
but i dont hear a lot of things
of makes me think division
Like indices and exponents
like 3 of 2

