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pliant inlet
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c)

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foggy salmon
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last 1 i think no

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thrs some stuff thats not covered

foggy salmon
pliant inlet
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gotcha

foggy salmon
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the div n mult is closed under

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d i think no

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cuz some numbers r not covered

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which shld b kinda obv

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from the x^3

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or u can write out a few terms ig

pliant inlet
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gotcha

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ill find

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a counter example

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or smth

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thanks so much lol

foggy salmon
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um

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ye i think that cld work

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just show the fn is monotonic

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n cant ever hit some number ig

pliant inlet
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N \ {x}?

foggy salmon
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🥣

foggy salmon
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i think

pliant inlet
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like it wont ever

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hit some value x

foggy salmon
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it exlcudes a lot of numbers

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like

pliant inlet
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ill just find the values

foggy salmon
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ye

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i guess

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so then it maps to not all of N

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so the set it maps to

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cant be equal to N

pliant inlet
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right

foggy salmon
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ay

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sb help me with this

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How would I go about proving: Let 𝑎 and 𝑏 be integers. Prove that if 𝑎𝑏 and 𝑎+𝑏 are relatively prime, then 𝑎 and 𝑏 are relatively prime.

Using the theorem: Integers 𝑎 and 𝑏 are relatively prime if and only if 𝑎𝑥 + 𝑏𝑦 = 1 for some 𝑥, 𝑦 ∈ Z.

I know how to do the math as seen below but I do not how to go further than that or describe it in words to form a proof:
(ab)x + (a+b)y = 1
abx + ay + by. = 1 
a(bx + y) + by = 1 
ak + by = 1 for k = bx+y belonging to the set of integers.

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pseudo siren
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What you did is correct, you just have to provide the context for it. You can do it the following way:

"We aim to prove that a and b are relatively prime. Meaning, we'd like to find integers x and y such that:
ax + by = 1. We know that ab and a + b are relatively prime."

From there, you can continue as you did with showing that ab and a + b being relatively prime means that a and b are prime in algebraic terms.

"Using the theorem, since ab and a + b are relatively prime, then there exist integers X and Y such that:
(ab)X + (a + b)Y = 1"

As you have shown, this can be rewritten as:
a(bX + Y) + bY = 1

Notice that this is the form that we are looking for. (We were looking for an equality of the form ax + by = 1 where x and y are integers, so we finish the proof by showing how this is what we aimed to achieve.)

"Choosing x = bX + Y and y = Y, we get that ax + by = 1, where, since b, x and Y are integers, then bX + Y and Y are integers as well."

wet heath
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oh okay i understand what i was missing now

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mental patrol
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I know there is an ss between/ss total formula but not sure what exactly to do to start?

lean otter
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wdym ss

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if you want u could just use a calculator to calculate r-squared bruh

mental patrol
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No

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This is for exam practice

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I can use a calculator but only for simple things

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Ss=sum of squares I think

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dire fjord
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Hii everyone

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dire fjord
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I have 2 equations $x^2+y^2=2 $ and $x^2/(2-y) +y^2/(2-x)=2$

flat frigateBOT
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calculus is fun

dire fjord
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I need all real couples (x;y) that satisfy both equations

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The couple I reached is (1;1) is there any other one

plucky elk
dire fjord
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What i did is that I equated LHS of both equations then did common denominator

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After that I had an expression with forms of x identical to that of y

plucky elk
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it'd be easier if you just showed your work

dire fjord
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I got $x^2(2-x)(1-y)+y^2(2-y)(1-x)=0$

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calculus is fun

dire fjord
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Wait I'll write everything I did and send a pic

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So that's my work

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Is there something wrong with it

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Or something missing ??

plucky elk
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you might have multiplied by 0 to get here

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what if (2-y) = (2-x) = 0 ?

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oh i guess it's undefined since that's in the denominator of the second eqn

dire fjord
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Yea it is undefined

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I forgot to write the condition

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So is it missing anything or this is the correct and complete answer ??

dire fjord
plucky elk
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you assumed x=y ?

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did you not consider y not equal to x?

dire fjord
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Yea because y can't be different than x If this expression is equal to 0

plucky elk
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why?

dire fjord
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If you do this and then simplify you will get the following

plucky elk
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you should include that work then

dire fjord
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,rotate

flat frigateBOT
dire fjord
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In this case the expression of x is identical to that of y

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So the equation doesn't hold unless x=-y

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Wait

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x=-y not y

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Is this correct now ??

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??

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sick ice
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I can find the derivative of the function, but I'm struggling with plugging in one. Wouldn't that still leave some y's in the answer? The problem wants me to type in a "number" for my answer. I don't think that includes y variables

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sick ice
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ah i see

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dagum

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granite pike
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I’m stuck making 2 equations for this. Can someone help making the equations, you don’t need to solve. Thanks!

haughty widget
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im confused

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ik i should get this

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idle hearth
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"by his next birthday" that just means plus 1 right, so, x+1=2y (2y bcs he will double her age which is anna's age)

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marsh granite
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why is my answer wrong?

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quasi bison
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6+3 isn't 12

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and 4+3 isn't 10

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@marsh granite the question did not say that the numbers on the spinner had to be 1 through 6

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you were wrong to assume that

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oh okay

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robust sigil
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help me for d?

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robust sigil
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how to solve this?

spiral crescent
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oh my bad lol i thought i read if fg continous

robust sigil
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so the answer is -2 ?

spiral crescent
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for d not -2

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for d factor the expression and when some expression times some other expression are both in limit, and one of the expression when you put in the limit is non zero or not infinity, then you can evaluate it seperately and take it outside the limit

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AH D IS -2

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i was reading b

robust sigil
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ohh thank u

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can u explain why it was -2?

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i am not sure about my answr even

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need a sanity check over here
is it true that the ring $\bZ/P_n\bZ$, where $P_n$ is the product of the first $n$ primes, has exactly $n$ maximal ideals (the quotients modulo which are $\bZ/(2), \bZ/(3), \dots, \bZ/(p_n)$?

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lime stratus
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How would I go about calculating y3 here ?
I've tried so many things but so far none of them worked...

peak estuary
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unless you have more information you are not giving us, this is impossible to solve

lime stratus
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Well, X3 is inbetween x1 and x2

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And y3 is too

peak estuary
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well where are you taking that information from

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y3 could also be 703132

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for all we know

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can you state the whole question?

lime stratus
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Okay

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X3 and Y3 are in-between X1,Y1 and X2, Y2

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Let's just say I know it

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What I'm asking is, based off of that information, is there a way to calculate Y3 ?

peak estuary
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no

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y3 could be anything

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if you know that for example y depends linearly on x, then you can do something

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that is, y=mx+b

lime stratus
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Yes Y depends linearly on X

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...right..

peak estuary
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so you were not giving us all information

lime stratus
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but then what's m and b ?

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Right, sorry

peak estuary
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ok so we know that 90 = 1500m + b

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and 20 = 40000m + b

lime stratus
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Okay

peak estuary
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that is two equations with two unknowns

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do you know how to solve that?

lime stratus
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Not that much, no

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But I'll figure it out

peak estuary
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do you know that the slope is given as rise over run?

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$m = \frac{y_2-y_1}{x_2-x_1}$

flat frigateBOT
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Denascite

lime stratus
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Ohhhh right

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So then m = -70/38500

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Which means m = -0.00181818181

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So then..

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x3 = 1800m+b

peak estuary
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well first we now have to find b

lime stratus
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But first I need to figure out b

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Yes

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So

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90 = 1500m + b
B = 90-1500m

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B=90-1500*-0.00181818181

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B = 92.727272715

peak estuary
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yes.

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or as fractions, m=-1/550 and b=1020/11

lime stratus
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x3 = 1800⋅-0.00181818181⋅92.727272715

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Something's not right

peak estuary
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+92.etc, not *92.etc

lime stratus
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Ohh yes

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89.454545457

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Perfect

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It works

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Thank you so much!

peak estuary
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yes

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or as a fraction 984/11

lime stratus
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Perfect

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Tysm!

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violet compass
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$\int_{0}^{π/2} \frac{dx} {5cosx + 3sinx}$

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Derek ♡

peak estuary
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that looks nasty. weierstrass sub maybe?

violet compass
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what sub?

peak estuary
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often called weierstrass sub. which according to the article is a misattribution. TIL

violet compass
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ohhh got it

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heard this term first time

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weierstrass..

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hmm

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edgy rover
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how do i find cos2(x), i got sin2(x), but when i subbed what i knew into the formula i messed up.

edgy rover
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i got, (4xroot7)/11 = sin2(x)

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the missing side is, root7

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when i tried to get cos^2(x) i thought to do, (root7/2)^2 ?

maiden jetty
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$\cos^2 x = \left( \frac{\sqrt{7}}{\sqrt{11}}\right)^2=\frac{7}{11}$

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秋水

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ruby phoenix
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f is a function defined on interval [a;b]

f-1 is its reciprocal function

if i have f-1(f(x))
what is that equal to? is it equal to just x ?

obtuse jackal
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If f is invertible yes

ruby phoenix
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😱

toxic stratus
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reciprocal hmmCat

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do you mean 1/f

ruby phoenix
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no

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inverse function

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like the one thats symmetrical to the function by y=x

toxic stratus
ruby phoenix
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mean

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invertible

toxic stratus
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if the inverse exists

obtuse jackal
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To have an inverse

ruby phoenix
obtuse jackal
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From the verb invert

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Comes the noun inverse and the adjective invertible

ruby phoenix
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to prove that the inverse exists should i prove that f is continuous and either strictly decreasing or increasing?

toxic stratus
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thats not a necessary condition

obtuse jackal
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Strictly monotone is enough

ruby phoenix
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yall for real?

obtuse jackal
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Continuous just guarantees f^-1 will be continuous as well

ruby phoenix
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ummmm☠☠ PERIODDDD t.

ruby phoenix
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😂👍

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thanks yall

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still

toxic stratus
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its sufficient but not necessary

ruby phoenix
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arctan(tan(x)) = x

only if x is in ]-pi/2 ; pi/2[

right?

toxic stratus
obtuse jackal
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Yes, because otherwise x is out of arctan's range, so it can't be equal

toxic stratus
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i dont know about that

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,w plot arctan(tan(x))

toxic stratus
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you get a chainsaw

obtuse jackal
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Yes

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So the equality only holds in the middle

ruby phoenix
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ummm yeah so wait

obtuse jackal
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Otherwise you have 2 different, parallel lines

toxic stratus
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i see what you mean now

ruby phoenix
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suppose f goes from [a;b] to IR

f-1 goes from IR to [a;b]

then f-1 (f(x)) = x
if and only if x is in [a;b]

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is this correct?

toxic stratus
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outside [a, b] f(x) isnt defined

ruby phoenix
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yes

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wait

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yes

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so its correct?

toxic stratus
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it is

obtuse jackal
toxic stratus
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well it does say "suppose"

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so its part of the assumption

obtuse jackal
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I mean... x -> x^2 is a function from R to R

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That's the entire reason why the concept of surjectivity exists

toxic stratus
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no like

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"suppose f : [a, b] -> R and f^-1 : R -> [a, b]"

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then it would be part of the assumption that f^-1 has domain R

obtuse jackal
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Since he skipped 2 lines, to me it didn't feel like a part of the assumption anymore

toxic stratus
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if its not then f^-1 doesnt necessarily have domain R

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but like

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the then occurs after the line saying f^-1 goes from R to [a, b]

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so supposedly everything before then is part of the assumptions

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split ether
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You can use Pythagorean theorem to express h in terms of r and l first

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Then you can express l in terms of r using the fact that S = 100

solar cloud
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also so i got 100 = pi * r * l

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and h^2 + r^2 = l^2

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solar cloud
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alright, 100/(pi*r) = l?

split ether
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Now plug that into the h^2 + r^2 = l^2

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And isolate h

solar cloud
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yes, thats where i got stuck

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lmao

split ether
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h^2 + r^2 = 10000/pi^2r^2
h^2 = 10000/pi^2r^2 - r^2

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And just take sqrt

solar cloud
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alright

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uh oh

solar cloud
split ether
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h = sqrt(10000/pi^2r^2 - r^2)

solar cloud
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100/

split ether
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100 got squared, so now it's 10000

solar cloud
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mhm

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soz brain working real slow rn

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nearly 2am

solar cloud
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pi*r - r?

split ether
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No, the denominator is pi^2r^2 there

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$h = \sqrt{\frac{10000}{\pi^2r^2} - r^2}$

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A Lonely Bean

solar cloud
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oh what, u just leave the sqrt there?

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oh alright

split ether
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Yeah you can't get rid of it

solar cloud
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oh thats probably why i got stuck

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for this question

split ether
solar cloud
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ah genius

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@split ether for this, how would i solve it?

split ether
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What did you get for V?

solar cloud
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1/3 * pi * r^2 (h)

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the h is the long sqrt thing

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icbf typing

split ether
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Okay I'll type it then

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$\frac{1}{3}\pi r^2\sqrt{\frac{10000}{\pi^2r^2}-r^2}$

solar cloud
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uh oh

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1/3 * pi r ^2

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u missing the pi * r^2

flat frigateBOT
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A Lonely Bean

split ether
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Yeah, now you let r^2 into the sqrt

solar cloud
split ether
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So you get $V = \frac{1}{3}\pi \sqrt{\frac{10000r^2}{\pi^2}-r^4}$

solar cloud
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uh

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did i miss something

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where did the ------------ go

flat frigateBOT
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A Lonely Bean

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So now you need to evaluate the maximum of 10000r^2/pi^2 - r^4

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mhm

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wait

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@split ether what did u get for it?

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i got 530.516

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that correct?

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also what would the domain be

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You got that for the sqrt or the entirety of V?

solar cloud
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oh

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I got 506.606 for the sqrt

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So it sounds correct

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Yeah

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alright

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and im assuming domain should be (0,32)?

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It also looks like you need to specify the r value for that maximum though

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The domain is irrelevant

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its another question 😐

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the domain

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Ah

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Then just solve 10000r^2/pi^2 - r^4 >= 0

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Which you can simplify into 10000/pi^2 >= r^2

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mm

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thanks man

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I think there's /rep or smth

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/rep

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+rep @split ether

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/rep @split ether

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anyone good with like inverse fourier transforms

lament forge
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this is like 2nd year uni maths

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The following exercise:

An even function f is right continuous in x = 0. Show that the function is continuous in x = 0

i know intuitively why its right but I'm not sure how to write it down/prove it rigorously.

What i have so far: Since f(x) is an even function we know that for every x in its domain -x is also in its domain and that f(x) = f(-x). lim x-->0+ (fx) = 0, meaning approaching x=0 from [0,x] = f(0). Approaching x=0 from [-x,0] also gives f(0) since for every -x, f(-x) = f(x). Therefore a left limit exists and is equal to the right limit in point x = 0 with lim x-->0 f(x) = 0 which makes the point continuous

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so, for every x in (-delta, 0) and (0, delta) epsilon is greater than f(x)-f(0), hence f is continuous

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an example of a linear factor is just (x-1) right?

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power 1 being the highest degree term

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what about (x-1)^2? also a linear factor, just twice?

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Oh it would have to be (x-1)(x-1) to be linear factors?

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written this way

worthy hemlock
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Because (x - 1)^2 = (x - 1)(x - 1) results as a quadratic

fickle trail
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so (x-1)(x-1) is not a linear factor

worthy hemlock
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No

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so a linear factor is just one factor on it's own

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x=1

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therefor the factor is (x-1)

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and that's it

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in order to be a linear factor it can't be next to another factor?

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Wait

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but wouldn't (x-1)(x-2) result in a quadratic?

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worthy hemlock
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I think you just worded it weirdly

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fickle trail
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an example of linear factorization, rather

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i guess i should be more clear

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not a single linear factor but two linear factors?

worthy hemlock
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That's actually fine, it's linear factors

fickle trail
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OK

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I think I understand now (finally)

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just anything that is power 1

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and (x-1)^2 is not in linear form but (x-1)(x-1) is in linear form

thin bridge
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linear factorisation is a product of linear factors (and constant)

fickle trail
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product is multiplication right?

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quotient is division

thin bridge
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yeh

fickle trail
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sum is addition

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difference subtraction

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i need to remember this.. so often i see these terms thrown around

thin bridge
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(x-1)^2 is the product of (x-1) and (x-1),
it's perfectly fine to have (x-1)^2 in your linear factorisation

fickle trail
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wait so it is still considered linear to have (x-1)^2?

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OK

thin bridge
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as long as the factorisation is representative of a product of linear factors and constants

fickle trail
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a^n still counts as product?

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multiplication

thin bridge
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by definition of exponentiation, yes

fickle trail
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OK yeah that makes sense, when written out a * a * a ..

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Just making sure

thin bridge
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,w expand (x-1)^30(x-7)^8

thin bridge
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eg if asked for the linear factorisation of that monster

fickle trail
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just a quick and easy factorization -_-

thin bridge
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you would not have to explicitly write out
(x-1) 30times
and (x-7) 8 times

fickle trail
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Oh but (x-1)^30(x-7)^8 still counts as linear, interesting

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Yeah that's much easier

thin bridge
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the factorisation is linear

fickle trail
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Ah

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(x-1)^30(x-7)^8 itself is not "linear"?

thin bridge
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no

fickle trail
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but the "factorization" is linear

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hmmm, so what do we call this? if it's not linear
(x-1)^30(x-7)^8

thin bridge
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product of linear factors

fickle trail
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interesting..

thin bridge
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the expression itself isn't linear as it's a degree 38 polynomial

fickle trail
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and obv you can't have any variable with a power inside of the factor itself either, correct? to be considered a linear factor

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(x^2 - 1) for example

thin bridge
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yeh

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well power of a variable

fickle trail
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ty, typo will fix that

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(2^2 - 1) would not be a factor at all, it would just be a constant 3

thin bridge
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a constant factor is still a factor

fickle trail
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to be a factor it must include an x term, right? the whole point is to factorize the polynomial

fickle trail
thin bridge
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2x-2 = 2(x-1)

fickle trail
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i thought constant is just indicating the dynamic of the graph

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and even or odd

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but still still the same end behavior depending on the leading term power

fickle trail
thin bridge
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commutative

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yeh,

fickle trail
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I thought the constant is more about stretch, compression, or if it's flipped vertically

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so in this case 2x-2 = 2(x-1), (x-1) is the linear factor? 2 is just a constant

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but (2x-2) is also a linear factor, afaik?

thin bridge
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yeh

fickle trail
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weird lol..

thin bridge
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though 2(x-1) would be the simplified factorise form

fickle trail
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So (2x-2) secretly has vertical stretch in there too

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even though it's not as clear as 2(x-1)

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and that 2 for vertical stretch is applied to the entire polynomial

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but (2x-2) is also considered linear.. so I just gotta be careful. I always wanna factor. factor factor factor. Before anything else, factor.

thin bridge
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you can describe stuff relative to other things

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2x-2 =2(x-1) is a vertical stretch of (x-1)
though you can also just consider 2x-2 as it is

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Where did I mess up

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you messed up the product of
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Where did I go wrong this time

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Suppose triangle ABC has BC = √6, ∠BAC = 60°, ∠ABC = 45°. The length of AC is:

A. AC = 4 B. AC = √2 C. AC = 2, D. AC = 1

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need help understanding how to convert recurrence relations to expressions

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usually I guess the expression and it works

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this time theres a few unknowns

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so idrk

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what to do

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$$4u_{n+2} = 4bu_{n+1} - b^2u_n$$

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idecanymore

lean otter
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this is my relation

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need to get an expression for u_n

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ah, the infamous double order recurrence

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There is only one way to do it that I know of

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let's say that you have un+2 = aun+1 + bun

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the first step is to find all r such that r^2 = ar + b

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We call this equation the "characteristic equation of the series"

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ok just hold up a bit

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what is r

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whered r come from

obsidian oracle
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the point is you have to find r that verifies r^2 = ar + b

halcyon carbon
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Similar process to differential equation

obsidian oracle
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in order to find the correct values of r, you're gonna ofc use the quadratic formula.
Then, you have to distinguish between the cases "2 real roots" ; "1 real root" and "2 complex roots"

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i think it comes from the assumption that there is some r such that u_n = c*r^n, and then if you plug that into the equation you get:

c*r^(n+2) = a*c*r^(n+1) + b*c*r^n

and dividing it all by c and r^n we get r² = ar + b

obsidian oracle
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yep

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it didnt make sense to me why

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tbh

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then there will be 2 solutions (in most cases) and in the end our equation will look something like this:
u_n = c1 * (r1)^n + c2 * (r2)^n

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even youtube'd it

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it still didnt make sense

obsidian oracle
# flat frigate **idecanymore**

Point is : there always will be geometrical series that verify this, whether real or complex.
We also use the fact that the set of sequences that are solutions to this form a vector space

lean otter
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so i do this

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geometrical sum way

obsidian oracle
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yes, to find which values of r work

lean otter
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$$4r^{n+2} = br^{n+1} - b^2r^n$$
$$4r^2 - br -b^2 = 0$$

flat frigateBOT
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idecanymore

lean otter
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and then just

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solve for r i suppose

obsidian oracle
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yep

lean otter
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so what do i do with the two values of r

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same way i do with diff eqs?

obsidian oracle
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basically

lean otter
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$u_n = r_1^n + r_2^n$

lean otter
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?

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and then plug in n=1 and n=2

flat frigateBOT
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idecanymore

lean otter
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$u_n = c_1 r_1^n + c_2 r_2^2$

flat frigateBOT
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rbit ✨

obsidian oracle
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Then, three distinct cases depending on the possible values of r :
Case 1 : r can be r1 or r2 distinct real numbers ; then un = A(r1)^n + B(r2)^n
Case 2 : r can only be a single real value ; then un = (A + nB) x r^n

lean otter
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what if

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its complex

obsidian oracle
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Boy here we go

lean otter
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then its complex

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hypothetically

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like

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if i get a relation

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where r

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is complex

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what do i do

obsidian oracle
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if it's complex, we write them r1 = Ce^(ix) and r2 = Ce^(-ix)

lean otter
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does it matter?

lean otter
obsidian oracle
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yes

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but then the sollutions are :

lean otter
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because what the term will spit out will still be real at the end

obsidian oracle
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un = Ar1^n + B r2^n

lean otter
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you wrote that its c1r1^n + c2r2^n only for real distinct roots

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thats why im asking

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no other reason

obsidian oracle
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if you're looking for real solutions to un, then the complex roots case is not the same

obsidian oracle
lean otter
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?

obsidian oracle
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so un = A|r|^n cos(nx) + B|r|^n sin(nx)

obsidian oracle
lean otter
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why

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why not have

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a

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complex recurrence relation

obsidian oracle
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I mean if you want to keep it to the case where un is complex sure

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I was assuming you wanted un to stay real

lean otter
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i dont

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assume anything

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just asking cuz ill see more qs like this

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in a bit

obsidian oracle
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If you extend to un complex, then you only have two cases : distinct roots or unique root

lean otter
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oh alr

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thanks then

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np

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How do I solve this? I usually would find the test statistic for the sample but it wouldn’t include the mean or SD, only the sample size and successes.

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So we’d do 40.7-41.6 first?

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S is given

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Ur n too

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,rccw

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The answer from the textbook

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1b

marsh walrus
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which part are you tripped up on

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ah

sudden phoenix
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Got a but idk how to do b

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so did you get to the derivative okay?

sudden phoenix
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Yea

marsh walrus
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here lemme share uhh

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sorry not sure how to share this directly

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you need to set the derivative to 0

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if you have derivative 0 at some point, then no change

sudden phoenix
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Ok

marsh walrus
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with one equation, you can do this on a line

sudden phoenix
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I think I'll just send u my working

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okay

sudden phoenix
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Like this?

marsh walrus
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,rotate -90

flat frigateBOT
marsh walrus
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hrm

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you may have lost something there

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start with $\sin x = \cos x$

flat frigateBOT
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jan Niku

marsh walrus
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use a unit circle

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,w sinx=cosx

sudden phoenix
dense galleon
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circle with radius 1

sudden phoenix
marsh walrus
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first coordinate is cosine

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second is sine

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and the number with pi along the line to each pair of numbers is the angle

sudden phoenix
marsh walrus
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one is cosine, the other is sine, of that corresponding angle measurement

marsh walrus
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theres another one

sudden phoenix
marsh walrus
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yea

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so you have the x values where the derivative is 0 right

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well, you have conditions on x which make the derivative 0

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you got 2 values of of that condition

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now you have a formula for getting y values from x values

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@sudden phoenix

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the problem is also asking you to find their stability, i think

sudden phoenix
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you have a formula

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for y=...

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y=f(x)

marsh walrus
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you should recover the answers in the book, im guessing

marsh walrus
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im using the unitcircle, mostly

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do you mean how to get those angle measures?

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or how to get the answers or

sudden phoenix
marsh walrus
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find 45

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what is the radian measure associated with it

sudden phoenix
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π/4?

marsh walrus
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yea

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find 225

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whats the measure

sudden phoenix
sudden phoenix
marsh walrus
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there should be two answers

marsh walrus
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the problem tells you it has to be between those numbers

sudden phoenix
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Oh

sudden phoenix
marsh walrus
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5pi/4 is going forward from 0

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maybe you can start at 0 and move backwards?

sudden phoenix
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But why mmove backwards

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I thought moving backwards only for negative

marsh walrus
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they say you need to find x values that are at most pi rotation away from 0

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so pi forward, or pi backward

sudden phoenix
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Will try

marsh walrus
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once you get those angle measures you are basically there

marsh walrus
sudden phoenix
marsh walrus
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i just wanna say that

sudden phoenix
marsh walrus
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you shouldnt use degrees

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the problem doesnt use degrees

sudden phoenix
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Oh

marsh walrus
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but okay, sure

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which measurements are between -pi and pi

sudden phoenix
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45 and -135

marsh walrus
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what are they in radians

sudden phoenix
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So 1 of the ans is correct now but the other is wrong

marsh walrus
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,rotate -90

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marsh walrus
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what do you mean?

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other is wrong?

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your two angle measurements are what?

sudden phoenix
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The textbook ans says π/4 is wrong but -3π/4 is correct

sudden phoenix
marsh walrus
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im not sure how they say that but okay

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maybe they only want the stable one

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,w plot e^(-x)(sinx-cosx)

marsh walrus
sudden phoenix
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So the answer provided is wrong or something?

marsh walrus
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but only one of them is stable

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so maybe thats what they want

sudden phoenix
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So is π/4 correct?

marsh walrus
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it is but its unstable

sudden phoenix
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Oh ok

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So how to get the second answer

marsh walrus
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by second do you mean

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what do you mean

sudden phoenix
marsh walrus
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ah, use the function

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$y=e^{-x}\sin(x)$

flat frigateBOT
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jan Niku

marsh walrus
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you have an x

sudden phoenix
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in the problem

sudden phoenix
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Oh

marsh walrus
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its the function you took the derivative of

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and set to 0

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to get the x you have

sudden phoenix
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Ok

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Thx so much

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if youre curious

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red is curve, blue is derivative

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you can maybe kinda see

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anyways

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In a density experiment a student measures sides of square object and
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I have height, width, depth and density given. How do I calculate the volume so I can then get density

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but is it a cuboid?

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that's the question copy pasted

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i made the equation sqrt(x)+sqrt(y)=a/b where a, b Z and gcd(a, b) = 1

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not sure what do next

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can i get a hint?

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x and y should be irrational

patent vault
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hint: a - a = 0

patent vault
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why would that not be true?

toxic stratus
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?

patent vault
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not sure how to use it

toxic stratus
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(some irrational number) - (the same irrational) = 0

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0 is rational

patent vault
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ohh

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so i make a system of equations?

toxic stratus
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no just

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explicitly construct it

patent vault
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whats "it"

toxic stratus
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x and y

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hint

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i mean

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its kind of already there

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patent vault
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hm

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are a and c rational

toxic stratus
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you can make them integers

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if you would like

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as well as b

patent vault
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why

toxic stratus
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if you would like

patent vault
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when did these become sqrt(x) and sqrt(y)

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im so confused

toxic stratus
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thats just an arbitrary choice

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you want the irrational parts cancelling

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leaving behind the rational parts

patent vault
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could it be the other way around

toxic stratus
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well yes ofc

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it really doesnt matter

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ok

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now i have c+d=a/b

toxic stratus
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i mean

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you dont have to keep the a, b, c around

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just

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replace them with any random integer

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toxic stratus
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no like

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we really dont need so much generality

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just pick like

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your favourite couple of integers

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like

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okay

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a = 1, b = 2, c = 2

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so

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well that seems to prove it

patent vault
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why not

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its just a random example

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just

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pick any integers you want

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provided that they work ofc

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i mean you couldve just started with saying like

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so lets set the first thing = sqrt(x) and the second thing = sqrt(y)

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then there isnt any picking of integers involved is there

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its just a true equation

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bc sqrt(2) is irrational?

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thanks for ur help btw

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what is a "motive"?

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a motive is like a reason to be motivated.
"His motive for killer her was because she stole all his sandwiches"

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oh so its actually just

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a motive

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i guess, Ive heard of the other terms related to complex but not that one

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well I know of all the other ones and know a complex number has them but I have no clue what a motive is

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in relation to the

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m

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modulus is absolute scalar value (or distance from 0), conjugate is when the imaginary part of number is negative (I think), argument is the imaginary component of complex number

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never heard of it, so its probably that

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so if i = sqrt(-1) then I think c and d are both true right

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can someone help me out with this infinite series. please also tell me what i need to know in order to solve it

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i think it's some kind of algebraic-geometric series, but i'm not sure

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please ping

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$\sum_{i=0}^{\infty} x^i = \frac{1}{1-x}$

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take a look at this sum and take the derivative on both sides

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(for |x| < 1)

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geometric sum

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geometric series

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oh wait

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could you link some proof please

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rbit ✨

lean otter
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index should start at 0

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i just want to understand it intuitively

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$\sum_{i=0}^{n} q^i = \frac{1-q^{n+1}}{1-q}$

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rbit ✨

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prove this per induction, and then assume |q|<1 and take the limit as n goes to infinity

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although thats not very intuitive

toxic stratus
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thats not the geometric series hmmCat

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thats the derivative of the geometric series hmmCat

lean otter
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huh?

toxic stratus
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theres an i out front

lean otter
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look at what ive written before

toxic stratus
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hmmCat imblind

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i mean we can write it out:

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im sure theres some youtube video with some nice visualizations, but if you want to prove it rigurously then induction is a good way

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wait i think there was another way

toxic stratus
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this is the nicest visualisation ive seen

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1+q+q²+... = S
q+q²+q³+... = qS
1+q+q²+... = 1+qS
S = 1+qS
S(1-q) = 1
S = 1/(1-q)

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works because its absolutely convergent

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assuming convergence tho

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i don't know man, i've asked this question to many people, a lot of them got it wrong, and the rest just gave me the solution right away

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without giving proper explanation, which wasn't very useful you know

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soo, what parts are you still struggling with? do you get the derivation i gave or do i need to explain it more?

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btw we need to show first its convergent, do you know any convergence tests for infinite series, in particular the root test?

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$1+2\cdot\left(\frac{1}{1,998}\right)+3\cdot\left(\frac{1}{1,998}\right)^2+4\cdot\left(\frac{1}{1,998}\right)^3+...+n*\left(\frac{1}{1,998}\right)^{n-1}+...$

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right?

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wait we first gotta derive the geometric series

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that "*" at the end is just multipilcation

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$1+x+x²+x³+... = \frac{1}{1-x}$

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rbit ✨

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is it?

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if we then take the derivative of that, we get what you want:

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$1+2x+3x²+4x³+... = \frac{1}{(1-x)²}$

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rbit ✨

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thats the derivative

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(only for |x| < 1)

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