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notice e^x starts at n = 0, but that sum starts at n = 1
so your answer is off by 1 (3^0/0!)
I did see that, but I didn't know how to fix it.
Would the correct answer be (e^3) - 1?
yeah
you could just adapt that sum by adding and subtracting 1
so 3 + 3²/2! + ... = (1 + 3 + 3²/2! + ...) - 1 = e^3 - 1
Got it, thank you!
Does everything else look okay?
yep
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Knief help
@amber schooner
$D = R_0\cos(\varphi_2) \pm \sqrt{R_0^2 \cos^2(\varphi_2) - R_0^2 + R_i^2} = R_0\cos(\varphi_2) \pm \sqrt{R_0^2(\cos^2(\varphi_2) - 1) + R_i^2}$
knief
$\sin^2(x) + \cos^2(x) = 1 \implies \sin^2(x) = 1-\cos^2(x)$
knief
$D = R_0\cos(\varphi_2) \pm \sqrt{R_i^2 - R_0^2\sin^2(\varphi_2)}$
knief
I’m still processing it hold on
from this if you multiply both sides by -1
you’ll get -sin^2 = cos^2 - 1
I still don’t get it 💀
do you get sin^2 + cos^2 = 1?
Yep
Oh I think I get it
$R_0^2\cos^2(\varphi_2) - R_0^2 = R_0^2(\cos^2(\varphi_2) - 1) = R_0^2(-\sin^2(\varphi_2))$
knief
yes?
Ye
and we can just write that like this ^
you’re welcome sir
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was this retracted because a sub n is 0 according the nth term test?
so it would be like 0 / 6 or something, so the limit comparison test doesnt apply?
yes, also the new series clearly diverges by the nth term test
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A boy is flying a kite from the top of a building. He sees the kite at the end of the stretched thread at
an angle of elevation of 500
.Another boy standing at the bottom of the same building sees the kite
an angle of elevation 650
,if the length of the thread is 100m.Find the height of the building.
hoping it was 50.0 💀
maybe the 0 is a °
ooh tru
but who tf does that
so fucking weird
if ur too lazy to copy paste deg
50* works
or 50 deg
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I'm sorry when I copy pasted it , the computer switched ° to 0
Idk why
50° and 65°
what grade r u in btw
The answe I got was 214
bro what 😭
I'm not gonna explain why
Wait I got the answe 137 m
Wait shit this only figures how high the kite is
Give me a min
idk man i get 61m 😭
Ohk so I got 60m
i've just been sitting here for like 10 min
I'm gonna trust you and beleive it's 60
thinking it looks wrong
Oh yeah
pretty sure
x/sin15 = 100/sin25
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hey
hey guys in Art. 10
it says there that ax^4 has 5 dimension or 5 degree
but when i asked chatgpt it tells me it has 4 dimensions and the degree is not applicable perhaps what's the modern terminology or what?
I'm comfortable with this book so please don't ask me to switch out because of it's old terminology 😭
To me it depends on what you consider a and x to be. Generally, when you introduce an x it is a variable or something that you want to identify. So when you think about all the functions f(x) = ...x^4 + ...x^3 + ...x^2 + ...x + ... (all the functions that you can get replacing the dots with numbers), it can be usefull to replace the dots with a, b, c etc to generalize (f(x) = ax^4 + bx^3 + cx^2 + dx + e). But in this example the values replacing the dots are known, for example, one function among all the one in that form could be 1x^4 + 2x^3 + 3x^2 + 4x + 5). So in that case, we say that the function is a polynomial of degree 4 because, the biggest power of an unknown quantity is 4, a was equal to one but as it is known, it "doesn't count" as part of the degree (in your example, they said that 8a^2b^5 is of degree 7 for example). As it is relatively common to name it this way, I think that that's what chat GPT meant here. So to sum up, if a is known, your expression is of degree 4 and else it is of degree 5.
idk functions..
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Ah
So just remember that chat gpt was thinking that there was a known number behind your 'a' so if that's the case, it's degree 4 and else degree 5
ah i see
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Prove that n^6-n^2 is divisible by 60 using mathematical induction and without using modular arithmetic. I get to the expression k^6+6k^5+15k^4+20k^3+15k^2+6^k+1-k2-2k-1 and I can't figure out how to use the induction assumption here.
well by the induction hypothesis, k^6 - k^2 will be divisible by 60
that means you should try proving that (k + 1)^6 - (k + 1)^2 - (k^6 - k^2) is divisible by 60
,w (k + 1)^6 - (k + 1)^2 - (k^6 - k^2) simplify
yikes doing this without modular arithmetic
This factorisation is nice tho
it feels easier to me to just try to "reinvent" modular arithmetic for the problem by factoring the original thing a bit and trying to argue that
the expanded form is $4 k + 15 k^2 + 20 k^3 + 15 k^4 + 6 k^5$ btw
southlander!
I mean we can directly see 3 and 4 are factors
n^6-n^2 = n^2(n^2+1)(n+1)(n-1) has 3 consecutive numbers so it's divisible by 3, work to prove it's divisible by 20 by the factors etc
basically you want to show that $k^5$ leaves the same remainders as $k$ mod 5
southlander!
cheating I know but
ah right that directly
I think yeah that's the neatest factorisation
the one I did doesn't look neat
There is term of n² and n²-1 so one of them is divisible by 4
yep
only have to break on the cases n odd and n even to get that too
as opposed to doing the full set of residues 0,1,2,3 mod 4
we're doing broke version of CRT now lmao
I can't see how we get 5 as factor without moular arithmetic tho, or at least splitting into cases
I think I see a decent-ish way if you have binomial theorem
n^6-n^2 = n(n^5-n) and I guess induction step focusing on n^5-n will force (n+1)^5 - (n+1) and expanding the (n+1)^5 will throw a lot of 5s in idk
haven't realy thought it through tbh lol
in my mind I'm rederiving fermat's little theorem I guess sorta
I'm going to bed that's what I'm really doing right now lmao
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Four circular disks of radius 1 are placed in a box
as shown. Some of the circular discs are partially covered
other circular disks. What is the total area of the
hidden parts of the circular discs?
wdym by hidden parts?
so the circles overlap
ow
the are of it it just 2 times of the ( 1/4 circle - a 1 x 1 triangle
wdym no aid
this is not a test right?
to find the are of red just use the area of 1/2 cirle radius of 1 - square 1 x 1.
why
imagine you overlap 1/4 circle on top of each other
yuh
ok so what i thought to do:
i saw that this shaded area fills up a bit less than a quarter of the square
i estimaed 1/6 of a square
since r=1, A=pi
so I said that area of red is pi/6
we have 4 of em so 4pi/6 or 2pi/3
since i dont have a calculator ill say pi is 3 and a bit more
so that means 2pi/3 would be 4/3=1.5
so i just said pi=3 and then added a bit to the end result
so ill go through the options like this:
a) 2pi-4=6-4=2.3
b) 3.14
c)12.5-12=0.5
d) 1
e=pi^2/4=10/4=2.5
so here a seems to be a tiny bit closer
and i dont see how we'd ever get pi^2/4 while doing this calculation
so it should be safe to assume a is correct?
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i need to find a and b here,i put it under one denominator , force n in front but i have n^2(....)+n(....) the insides are different , the denominator has n not n^2
a friend said that n^2(..) should be 0 but why???
wdym by n^2(..)
u mean n^2 * ..?
change xn into a single fracrion
thats what i did
i dont see it
check what i typed above the pictures
divide both the numerator and denominator by n
we don t type * normally sorry
i did and one n still remains
nono its okay i was just confused i thought u meant like ^2(..) for a sec
that means the n² term on the numeraror should be 0
because xn is 2
but why thats what i don t get
why does it happen
because xn is not infinity
oh , so like for example if i had n^2 on the denominator the n term would be 0?
depends on the question
if the denom's power is bigger than the numerator then the limit is 0
if the numerator would contain both n^2 and n and the denominator would contain n^2 then the n term from the numerator would be 0?
xn is equal to smth not infinity
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hahaha
question was so hard to solve
what was that site
moderators had to interfere
Porn site
some porn site
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I got up to 11/16 on my own
I then just did 11/16 * 1/2(the probability that it doesn't catch the 5th fish) to get 11/32 as my answer
why is this reasoning wrong and why do we need to find the complement
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Hi so i did everything right and i found R=A+B but somehow its wrong
how did R become 9
Your Bx and By are swapped
The angle given is with respect to the y-axis
But the trig function should be evaluated at the angle with the x axis
You can fix it by just using 90-30=60 degrees
This is wrong
Bx = B * sin(angle between x axis and vector B)
You did
Bx = B * sin(angle between y axis and vector B)
Bro sin30=cos60
I just didnt subtract 90 and used it on y instead
how is that wrong
Its like i did the pythag triangle using y vector as x
oh
Your axes aren't labeled
Since I thought your A components was correct, that meant your B components was wrong
But it's the reverse
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pic 1 is q, pic 2 is answer, im confused on how we can derive that 96 = 50 + K? wouldnt we need to find x to confirm that?
compare the sides
cuz that part does not involve x, we don't need to find x
since 2x²-20x are on both sides, the rest must be equal too
OHH
so could we cancel that out?
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wat da heck is this word problem
how do i even set this up
like i know 11.2% is hydrogen then
mass hydrogen = 11.2% * total mass
mass water = 88.8% * total mass
you are given the hydrogen mass, you can find mass water
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I have recently found out by chance that (oops)
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id like to see if my answer for part e is correct.
My answer is 15.6?
(a clearer pic)
what have you tried
ill take a pic of my working out-
ok
i used cosine rule to find angle ANB
and did 180 minus that angle to find APB
and did sine rule to find the length of AP
gimme a second
yup nws
Law of cosines?
yeah ik
yupp thats what i used
looks good!
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$A \in \mathbb{R}^{5x5}$ which verifies $A^5=2AA^T$ Find all possible values for det(A)
ransik (gmdn)
I think I may have taken a wrong path here
because that final det i arrived at is kind of contradictory... unless det(A) is 0?
or wait no
that's the 5th root by the way not square root
i think i might be completely deranged here
solve it like you would solve a polynomial
you have a^5 = 2^5 a^2, now just simplify insead of taking the 5th root
how did it become a cuberoot
you had 5th root of det(A) ^2
so remember how you told me not to take the 5th root
oh wait nevermind
i did as you told me i think
yeah anyways i think that's right now
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Here is the question:
I started by multiplying both sides by 1+ sin(theta), and got to this point: $$r+r\sin{\theta}=1$$
KXLI
i am not sure how to continue
Do you recall the equations for converting between polar and rectangular coordinates?
yeah, x = r cos theta and y = r sin theta
so i can see that i can replace r sin theta with y and get r+y=1
or is that not the right way
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I have a math project I am completely stumped on
i filled out the first graph (question 1) and i did the second question but i do not think it's right at all to be honest.
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yes thats filled correctly
Your Q1 is correct, the numbers in the table are correct
idk abt Q2 but I can help you with Q3
Since the only restriction is that you have to start and finish at SCF, you'll have to start by listing out each of the possible permutations of this occurring. There should be a total of 4! ways this can happen.
I can start it off for you:
SCF → UF → FSU → UCF → USF → SCF
SCF → UF → FSU → USF → UCF → SCF
SCF → UF → UCF → FSU → USF → SCF
SCF → UF → UCF → USF → FSU → SCF
SCF → UF → USF → FSU → UCF → SCF
SCF → UF → USF → UCF → FSU → SCF
there would be 18 more, continue by changing the second stop from UF to either FSU or UCF
then you would have to sum up all of these distances to find the total distance
is this by any chance a programming assignment? seems tedious to do manually
For Q4:
- Start at SCF-Bradenton (SCF). (in this case it would be USF which is only 54 miles)
- From USF , travel to the nearest unvisited location (college) based on the distance table
- Repeat this process until all locations have been visited.
- Return to SCF-Bradenton.
sum up all the distances and this is ur answer
you'd be surprised it is not lol. just a college math course
so i put those into the graph?
like this? and then get the total
correct
and then whichever one has the smallest total distance is ur answer to q4
and the answer to q5 is 250,000 * the total distance of the route you chose in Q4
wait is there actually 18 more since it says "assuming you visit each college only once"? cause i filled it out and it filled in the table
yes in the other 18 alternatives, you also only visit each once
but in a different order
for example
the 7th one could be
SCF → FSU → UF → UCF → USF → SCF
still only visit each once but the second stop is FSU instead of UF
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gotcha okay
i think i got everything else. the last question is asking how much would have to be invested each month for the railroad. i got $192,900,000 for question 5
what did u get for q4 and q3
like which route was shortest, how many km was it and how much does it cost
ehh it doesnt matter
i'm gonna add onto the graph i just wanna finish everything else first cause it's due in like an hour lol
unfortunately u still only have 1/4 of the permuations so theres a good chance you missed the actual shortest distance.
but since u dont have the time to complete it now we'll just consider the shortest out of the ones you've chosen
Q4 would be correct
Q5 would be ur Q4 answer * 250,000 so that is also correct
i think youve made a few silly mistakes here and there because i calcauted the distance of that route and got something different
the distance of the first one? damn :(
this project is 100 points lmao.
also for that last problem in ur word document, at the very bottom, u sub the figures straight into the formula
A would be ur answer for Q5
r would be be the interest rate 3.3% converted into a decimal
n would be 12 (months in a year)
t would be 10 (we're told that the sinking fund is establised over a period of 10yrs)
u really should have started earlier
p=A(0.033/12)/(1+0.033/12)^12(10)-1)
i knowww i had the flu tho
why not
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As a helper, please do not give out answers that could be copied as a homework solution. Have the student work through the problem themselves and guide them along the way.
also ur gonna see certain routes have the same distance because of the symmetry of the matrix e.g. the same route but backwards but i would still leave it in the table because it says show all possible travel options
gl
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Hi guys, I'm trying to write a paper about finding out which polynomial approximation methods are the most appropriate, looking at accuracy and computational efficiency, for different types of functions and I wanted to check if there was a way to find out the inaccuracy of the approximation as a whole rather than just at a certain interval, I have tried using lagrange error bound but it seems to be limited to a certain interval? The polynomial approximation methods that I'm looking at include, Taylor Series, Pade Approximants and Lagrange Interpolation.
What do you mean as a whole?
Instead of an interval like [0,1], I was wondering whether I would be able to find out the inaccuracy of the approximation from (-inf,inf)
I would generally expect infinite inaccuracy, though I still don't know exactly how you're measuring inaccuracy
Or will that just make the inaccuracy tend to inaccuracy
Originally, I was looking at Lagrange Error Bound but that seems to only calculate the maximum inaccuracy for an interval
Something like e^x for example, every polynomial will eventually end up arbitrarily far away
It gives the maximum possible inaccuracy rather than the definite inaccuracy
You'll have a hard time finding functions where the error doesn't tend to infinity
Oh yea, thats true.
Then do you have any tips on how to justify choosing a certain interval? Because I'm looking at ln(x), sin(x) and tan(x)
For sin(x) and tan(x) I assume it'll be quite easy since they're periodic and I can just define the interval as one period, but I'm abit lost for defining a certain interval for ln(x)
Not really, just depends on what your purpose is
any power series you define for ln(x) has finite radius of convergence anyway
because lnx diverges at x=0
so the classic approach is to just approximate it in the interval (0,2)
due to log properties you can approximate any value ln(x) from that anyway
Oh yea that's true
But, how do I calculate the inaccuracy if I use pade approximants/lagrange interpolation instead of taylor series
so long as you're comparing different polynomial approximations on the same interval for the same function, you'll be able to compare their relative errors, no?
you can always integrate over the difference
or rather, absolute value of difference or square of difference
or in general |diff|^p
thats called the L^p error
So I can just do something like | integral of [f(x) - p(x)] along the interval | / | Integral of f(x) along the interval | x 100%
Or is that flawed?
you need to make the error positive
otherwise the positive and negative errors can cancel each other out
most reasonable thing is probably just look at (f(x) - p(x))^2
the scaling factor is up to you, I wouldnt bother honestly
and just square root the value of the integral after? i'm not sure if that's necessary since you're only comparing relative errors
Is finding the intersections with the x-axis the only way to make sure the errors don't cancel out?
are you trying to do this by hand?
otherwise, whats the issue with finding the intersection
if you do the difference squared then you dont have to worry about that intersection
squaring is much nicer anyway
Uhhhh, I'm thinking of doing a graph from the 1st degree of taylor approximation up to 100th degree of taylor approximation
So I would integrate (f(x) - p(x))^2 along the interval?
yes
Okay thank you guys for all your help!!!
Thank you for being really patient with me
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any ideas i need to find the limit of an when n tends to infinity
as n gets bigger and bigger we can express ln(1+e^5n) as something simpler
?
Just think for a sec
think about 1+e^5n
n becomes very big
what can we ignore
e itself?
if n becomes very large
e^5n is going to be much much larger than the 1
so we can just forget about it
so ln(1+e^5n) is approximated by ln(e^5n) for large values of n
Use series expansion method with Taylor series
Ig that should work
Thentake common and cancel out
Or use l hospital rule
Differentiate up and down
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thx
You can just do
then 5n/2n=5/2
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-4(5- 2x)(x+3)
how do i expand and simplify this
i got up to
(-20x+8x)(x+13)
now what do i do :(
i would expand the second and third term first
not the coefficient
have u heard of F.O.I.L
(a+b)(c+d) = ac + bc + ad + bd
yeah
with FOIL?
ac + bc + ad + bd
(5x) + (-2x^2) + (15) + (-6x)
then expand with coefficient
@snow breach if ur struggling with expanding just make a table
It will work in this case yes , but in other cases it might fail so I used the proper method so that he can know how to solve it if something like this comes up but this trick doesn't work
Want me to show u
the window method?
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ohh
Disappointed 💀
Oops i made a mistake
It’s -2x^2
Lol
im slow ok 😭
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Oh thank you
Btw @snow breach split one of the equations (a+b)(c+d) = a(c+d) + b(c+d)
wait wait awit
@snow breach do u understand ??
let me try foil
@snow breach ill let the other helpers help you, but if u dont get it still dm me and i can 100% teach u step by step ill help u ace ur test lol
ok
ty
anyways
so
-4(5- 2x)(x+3)
this is what i started with
i expanded the first half
(-20x+8x)(x+13) then got this
now do i use FOIL on this?
Don't do that
Solar is right
Leave the coefficient
oh ok
Put it in multiply later
ok so then
Because it will get complicated
Just a tip leave coefficient at end its easier
.
ok so
it would be
5 (x+3) -2x(x+3)?
Yes
Now expand each bracket
And then multiply whole thing by 4
Then simplify by adding cutting etc
Yes
Now
Multiply 4
Thatukept aside to each
Before that simplify the term
Make -5x + 6x into -x
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Help please.I'm trying to solve this exercises, im not sure that the 3. is correct or not. And how can i prove the 4.
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In a coin toss game, a square checkered board is provided as shown in the picture. How to play it is the player is asked to throw a coin onto the board. If the coin hits the side of the square box, the player is declared the loser. If the bounce between the coin and the board makes the coin fly out of the board, the player is allowed to throw the coin back onto the board. If the coin manages to enter completely into one of the boxes without touching any side of the box, the player is declared the winner.
If the ratio between the radius a of the coin and the side of the square box b is known to be 1: k, the value of k and the following possible chances of winning are ....
Answer:
A. When k = 2, P = 10%
B. When k =, P = 16%
C. When k = 4, P = 20%
D. When k = 5, P = 36%
E. When k = 8, P = 56.25%
figure A is the checkerboard, figure b is the relative position of the coin that landed in one of the checker
so what are your thoughts on this?
honestly, i'm so lost and my brain's fried LOL
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whar is K for B?
k is b but in ratio for a?
I mean option b
here
so what i would do is look at the possible locations of the center of the coin
someone js told me
what
yeah
what
?
oh so basically the inner square is the point where the center of the circle liesv
?
okay i get it
so chances of winning is (b-2a)^2 / b^2
= (1- 2a/b)^2
=(1-2/k)^2
when k = 2 chances of winning is 0
when k = 10/3
chance of winning is 16%
when k = 4
chance of winning is 25%
when k = 5
chance of winning is 36%
and when k = 8
chance of winning is 56.25%
so option BD and E are correct
dw, u just have to practice a bit
i don't understand the 2a^2 part though
?
the 2a
so you get this diagram?
yeah how is it 2a?
OH NEVERMIND
i am so slow
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i understand it mow
thanks for the help 😁
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The diameter of Venus' orbit is 216,400,000 km and Earth's is 299,200,000 km.
Answer with an appropriate power of ten."
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i am not sure about the meaning of some symbols. could you retype it here?
I think that symbol is a proportional sign. but can you clarify it?
its the fish
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Can anyone see how they got the yellow part
It’s based on the table on the top right
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Have I done this right
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how would i find the domain here. i get how x cant be 4 and x has to be greater than or equal to plus or minus 2. then why is it not [2,4) U (4, infinity). Note i didnt use test points im not sure if im supposed to use them and the answer key shows a different answer than mine.
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hint ||(-3)^2 - 4 = 9 - 4 = 5 >= 0||
What does "greater than or equal to plus or minus 2" even mean, conceptually?
its plus or minus 2 because i took the square root
where are you getting these numbers from
It's just an example to show you that you're missing a bunch of negative values that make the inside of the square root non negative as well
If you have $x^2 \ge 4$, you can't conclude that $x \ge \pm 2$.
Azyrashacorki
Inequalities can be very tricky
what would you do instead then
But you can conclude that $|x| \ge 2$
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Do you know that $5^{logx} = x^{log5}$ ?
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i didnt know
how would that help
$5^{\log x} = \exp(\log(5^{\log x})) = \exp((\log x)(\log 5))$
Samuel
$x^{\log 5} = \exp(\log(x^{\log 5})) = \exp((\log 5)(\log x))$
Samuel
This makes your exercise really trivial
You can do the same with the other
So we have the same base (x)
what does exp mean
The exponential function
If your log is neperian it would be e^ln
If it is in base 10 it would be 10^log
oh yeah ok i get it
you did this just to prove right?
Yes
ok
Just in case you didnt know why they are equal
It is the same, you did nothing illegal as far as i saw
So u can continue from there
But it will be easier for u
To divide instead of multiplying by 5^(-1) or 3^(-1)
So you can eliminate the fractions by finding the common factor
yeah ur right
so i combine the fractions for each side?
The have different exponent
Just multiply the whole equation by 15
To eliminate fractions
i did this
i got
18 * x^log5 = 50 * x^log3
😭
That is correct
x^(log5-log3) = 25/9
And log5-log3 is
You can try to down that log(5/3)
ok
Now divide both sides by log(5/3)
wait i think i got it
Nice
yes
(log(5/3)^2)/log(5/3)
(2*log(5/3))/log(5/3)
so 2 in the rhs
log x = 2
x = 100
Perfect
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Hey guys, what's the link between the fourier transform and the fourier series? If there is one at all. I kinda what they each are on their own, not sure how they relate though. Thanks 🙂
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They both share the same idea, but the Fourier transform essentially applies to non-period functions or to functions where T -> infinity
The Fourier series is only valid for signals that repeat periodically over a specific time
my understanding of the fourier transform was that it shows you which frequencies are present in the function / signal
Yes that’s correct
dont frequencies only make sense with periodic functions?
i guess my question is, can i use the fourier transform to get to the fourier series? if so how?
does this mean that you can construct a fourier series over the entire real line?
Yes. Exactly
And for non-period functions you would use the Fourier transform bla bla bla
So wait
sorry i meant can't
You can set this up by computing the Fourier transform of the period function, then identifying the discrete frequencies. The values at those frequencies then give you the Fourier series coeffs. c sub n
would it give me non-integer discrete values for frequencies?
But you can construct a Fourier series over the real line. It extends the periodic function by repeating it
right. also, by periodic function do you mean the f(t) being evaluated?
No you can only get integer discrete values for frequencies because otherwise there’d be destructive interference when summing over all periods. So it’d all cancel out
Yes 🙂↕️
waitt so you can ONLY represent periodic functions with a fourier series?
I don’t see why you’d use the Fourier transform, since it’s used in cases where you can’t use the Fourier series
Periodic functions with the Fourier transform lead to a discrete frequency spectrum, which is why the Fourier series is used for periodic functions
If that answers your question
sorry, im very new to this. we havent covered it in class im just doing some extra work
okay
but how about with non periodic functions?
No I find it really impressive when students really want to cover a topic with full interest. Your curiosity is something you should be proud of
thank you lol
Only the Fourier transform
and because it will outout not all discrete integer in the frequency domain with non-periodic functions you cannot construct a fourier series?
Sorry could you maybe rephrase that question lol
sorry my bad.
when the function you put into the fourier transform to generate the frequency domain, if the function is non-periodic, then the output will have not discrete integer frequencies in the output. since the fourier series requires those discrete integer frequencies, it is not possible to make a fourier series for a non-periodic function?
You’ve got it bro
okay lol, but then, the saw tooth wave is constructed piecewise, and its linear in those segments right? why is there a fourier series for that? the piece isnt periodic?
The sawtooth wave is periodic as a whole. The Fourier series doesn’t care about how it’s constructed piecewise, rather just about if the function is periodic
The linear ramp isn’t periodic by itself, but the sawtooth wave is still periodic because of the repetition of that segment
so if you got the fourier transform of a segment say from 0-1 in the time domain you would get integer frequencies which then help you get fourier series?
No not quite because to construct the Fourier series you need periodicity. The segment wouldn’t be periodic. The Fourier transform of the segment from 0-1, as you say, would result to a continuous spectrum in the frequency domain. Not just discrete frequencies
This happens because the Fourier transform assumes that the function is defined over the entire real line, and the single segment is interpreted as non-periodic even though the sawtooth wave IS periodic
woah thats weird.... so if i did the fourier tranform on the snippet of a sin wave id get a continuous spectrum?
Yes!! If you take snippets that can be interpreted as non-periodic, then you’d get a continuous spectrum as a result if you apply the Fourier transform
wow that makes me uncomfortable LOLL
Just make sure to take the whole function then nothing malicious or dubious will happen 😭
so theoretically, i can have a periodic function thats made up of parabolaes or soomething i dont know. find its fourier series by doing the integral etc and then boom ive got a fourier series?
do you mind if i summarise everything here and you can check if my understanding is ok?
I was about to go to bed but go ahead 🙂↕️ I’d be glad to help
oh dont worry about it then. i can ask someone else. sleep is important
If no one answers then send me a DM and I’ll go even more in depth tomorrow then
alright, ill just leave you a dm then. you can answer it in the mornin if thats alr?
Good luck and good night, your intuition is really neat
Yes I definitely will
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hello i need help using the complemention rule (stats) to answer a true or false question
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Yeah P(E)=1-P(E^c)
Now for the first question
Notice that at least one question can be written like this
P(X>=1)=P(X=1)+P(X=2)+…+P(X=12)
Do you agree?
yes? Im not sure i dont quite understnad this entire concept
can you explain why youre plugging that in
Ok yup
So X is a random variable giving the number of questions guessed correctly right?
okay
P(X=1) is the probability that 1 question is guessed correctly, and P(X=6) would be 6 questions right?
yes
Now the question (a) asks what is probability that at least 1 is correct.
That is the same as P(X>=1)
so 1/12?
Nope not exactly
Because lets make it a simpler example
Say we have 3 questions
True-false. So this means each question has 50% chance
If we look at the probability we answer 1 correctly and the other two are wrong that is 50% for first question and 50% for the other two right?
yes
But that could also be 50% second question was right. And 50% the first and last are wrong
yes
If you learned in class what I am doing here is looking at all the outcomes where we get 1 question correct and the other 2 wrong
is this like combinations or permutations
okay, how should i plug it in
Well for the example of 3 questions
True and false
There are 2^3 outcomes right?
yes
Because for each question we can get true or false. And using the multiplication principle we multiply the outcomes for each question
Which gives us 2^3 in total
But we also want to count the number of ways we can get 1 question right and 2 wrong (to count number of ways to get exactly 1 correct)
okay
Thats the same as C(3,1)
i dont understand quite,,, dont we do 2^12
oh
im sorry im looking back at my question
i understand now! so you haev 3 wuestions 2 possibilites thats why u squred it
Did you learn about binomial random variables?
yesss but its not quiote in my head
