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gentle flare
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how do i do that

safe dock
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and factorize it

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then

onyx cloak
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the quadratic (numerator) doesnt have any real solutions

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find the roots of denominator

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then check for what intervals it holds true

gentle flare
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so basically x = 3 and 7/9?

onyx cloak
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those are the roots yes

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now check for waht intervals the inequality holds

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x<7/9
7/9<x<3
x>3

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forest sky
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on the left, we have (any real number, any real number) and on the right we have (any real number, any real number)

weary pelican
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first of all, you can't do "(a,b) + (0,b) = (a,0) + (0,b)" just like that. every letter represents a potential different real number

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so when you take an element of V+W

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you can write it as $(a,b_1) + (0,b_2)$ for example

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rafilou2003

weary pelican
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this would correspond to the element $(a,0) + (0,b_1+b_2)$

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rafilou2003

weary pelican
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which is indeed an element of U+W

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and vice versa, every element of U+W is an element of V+W

iron bear
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,, V + W = \set {, (a, b) + (0, c) \where a, b, c \in \R ,} \
U + W = \set {, (d, 0) + (0, e) \where d, e \in \R ,}

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visual arch
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All of my maths life, I've taken as established convention that when we say b, then b = b. Why is it different in vector spaces?

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Is it just so?

iron bear
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,, \set {a \where a \in \R} = \set {b \where b \in \R} = \set {c \where c \in \R} = \set {d \where d \in \R} = \set {e \where e \in \R}

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iron bear
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i can keep going

visual arch
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So that just means that a = b, but why then is it not valid to make my previous assertion? We distinguish by letters, normally, to indicate that we are referring to potentially different numbers

iron bear
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it does not mean a = b

visual arch
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in other words, it's confusing to ascertain that establishing that $ x \in U, x \in V$ does not mean that $x = x$

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Alvaro Neto

iron bear
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,, \set {(a, b) \where a, b \in \R} = \set {(b, a) \where a, b \in \R} = \set {(420a + 69b, 1337b) \where a, b \in \R}

clever fjordBOT
visual arch
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Am I missing something, or are we not changing the convention that is taught maths students up to university calculus?

iron bear
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these are elements of a set

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a and b have no meaning outside of the set

visual arch
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okay

iron bear
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they are purely used within the definition of the set, in the set builder notation

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these sets all have the same elements

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so the sets themselves are equal

visual arch
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right. I think that clarifies things. Have to put it to the test

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jolly halo
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i cant seem to locate my mistake here
need help

jolly halo
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this is the value of the integral

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step 1-->2
i just did int(f(x)) from a to b = int(f(a+b-x) from a to b
step 2--> 3
i tried compliting the square in the denominator to form 1/1-x^2 like form

mental lotus
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the constant outside the completed square is 11/4, so I think you have missed the sqrt(11)/2 and just put sqrt(11) instead

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weary pelican
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?

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what is property P

tawdry wagon
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Is P(S_i) the power set?

mystic saffron
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is just a logic expression

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for making clear what i mean lol

weary pelican
tawdry wagon
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Ah, okay. So P is a function that returns true or false?

mystic saffron
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weary pelican
tawdry wagon
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Ohhhhh, I think I see.

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Thats so confusing

mystic saffron
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for example
take a finite subset of the set of prime numbers, determine if for a k-partition of S, exists partition subsets such that the sum/product/difference etc of the elements are prime numbers
is an example of a problem like this

weary pelican
mystic saffron
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why not?

weary pelican
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ever seen a product of prime numbers being prime?

mystic saffron
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oooh, yeah my bad lol

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it was a example I come out

weary pelican
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well even if you take the sum

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the sum of two odd prime numbers is not prime

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because it's even

mystic saffron
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but I am trying to find a problem with this structure that is worth it

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so I need to find this "insight" for a problem

weary pelican
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if you don't even know what to do

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I suggest for example

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partitions of {1,...,p} such that the sum of each partition subset is divisible by p

mystic saffron
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oh, nice ,interesting

mystic saffron
mystic saffron
# weary pelican I suggest for example

oohh, you giveme an idea. Looking for things that are fundamentals in math theories and asking about those with this structure, for example divisibility.
that may be helpful to the theory , right?

mystic saffron
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what I am finding hardest Is to think in a problem that helps to understand better math, instead of just being a isolated result that is just interesting

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mmmh, so in this case with number theory , also asking things about primes is more interesting that about n, since prime numbers have more impact in Number theory

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royal rose
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How can we find the generic formula for the following numeric series:
2/1; 4/1; 8/6; 16/24; 32/120

It seems to be 2^n for the numerators, and n! for denominators, but it somehow skips n=2

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lofty crater
royal rose
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what💀

mystic saffron
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Pattern

royal rose
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as in x of n, where n is a natural number excluding 0

lofty crater
royal rose
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whatsully

lofty crater
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what is excluding mean

royal rose
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without, so n would be given the values 1, 2, 3 and so on

lofty crater
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write it in paper

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summary it

royal rose
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it seems like it needs a pattern that goes 0 1 3 4 5 so that the factorial gives the correct denominators

lofty crater
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oh i difficullt

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it

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let me ask my teacher

royal rose
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and yes, I copied it exactly from the book, so only other option is that its the author's fault

royal rose
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its a moldovan book for math exercises

lofty crater
royal rose
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general exercises for 11th grade

lofty crater
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am grade 10

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lol

royal rose
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darn

lofty crater
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that difficult as f

royal rose
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where you from?

lofty crater
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royal rose
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you might also get to it, the math programs are harder for us

royal rose
lofty crater
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romanian dominate one of the biggest competitive

royal rose
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never heard about that but aight

lofty crater
lofty crater
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i want to study advance math

royal rose
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i dont think its that advanced, what are you learning right now?

royal rose
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r

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numeric series are basically functions, you know that?

lofty crater
royal rose
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i'd just studied this a couple days ago so i'm also new at it

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ebon briar
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whats the behavior around the 0 for lim x-> 0 (4x^2 - 3x + 1) / 5x^2

timid cairn
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what do you get if you plug it in

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dy/dx= 1/2 e^3x-2

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is this right?

wanton bison
tranquil void
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sad

wanton bison
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Everything remains the same

mental storm
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apply the chain rule

tranquil void
wanton bison
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Now chain rule too

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times (3x-1)'

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could you drawn the brakets on this to help me see it properly please?

wanton bison
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I dont understand your q

tranquil void
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like this

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or is it not the same thing we are doing

wanton bison
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e^f(x) is a exponential function

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So no

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You cant do that

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But exp. functions base e have the property to be the same when differentiated

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But you need chain rule

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[ y = e^f ] then [ y' = e^f \cdot f' ]

clever fjordBOT
tranquil void
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it says to just use chain rule

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not the outher ones

wanton bison
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wut

mental storm
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thats the main method youll use

tranquil void
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it only says to use chain rule

mental storm
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a question is not gonna tell u every possible derivative rule u need to apply...

tranquil void
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well the one under it tells me to use the outhers

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,w diff 0.5e^(3x-1)

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mental storm
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🤦

tranquil void
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i put diff lol

mental storm
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we alr told u the chain rule, whats stopping u from actually using it

tranquil void
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are these things equal?

mental storm
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yes

mental storm
tranquil void
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how do you do it with the -1

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is it this?

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the -1 is putting me off a bit

fervent hawk
tranquil void
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xe^x

fervent hawk
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$\dv{e^x}{x}=e^x$

clever fjordBOT
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Biscuity

fervent hawk
fervent hawk
tranquil void
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e^k
ke^k

fervent hawk
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?

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,w diff e^x

tranquil void
fervent hawk
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that k is a constant

tranquil void
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like the 3 in ours?

fervent hawk
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but we have -1

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so it's better to use chain rule

tranquil void
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yea thats what is putting me off

fervent hawk
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have you learnt chain rule?

tranquil void
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yes

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but im not sure with this one

clever fjordBOT
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Biscuity

fervent hawk
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agreed?

wanton bison
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||technically 1/e too||

fervent hawk
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Then we can let u=3x-1, so we have:

clever fjordBOT
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Biscuity

tranquil void
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are you able to show me the workings out for a similare question to mine

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and then ill see if i can do mine

fervent hawk
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oh sure

tranquil void
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thank you

fervent hawk
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let's make an example

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y=e^(2x+1)

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Let u=2x+1, so we have y=e^u

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a moment please

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,align
&\dv{y}{x}\=&\dv{e^{2x+1}}{x}\=&\dv{e^{u}}{x}\=&\dv{e^u}{u}\cdot\dv{u}{x}\=&e^u\cdot\dv{u}{x}\=&e^{2x+1}\dv{(2x+1)}{x}\=&e^{2x+1}(2)\=&2e^{2x+1}

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there we go

clever fjordBOT
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Biscuity

fervent hawk
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do tell if you're stuck on particular step @tranquil void 😺

tranquil void
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oh

tranquil void
fervent hawk
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yep

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3/2 e^(3x-1)

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ok

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thank you

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frigid canopy
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Trying to find $\lim_{x\to \infty} arctan(x^2-x^4) = \frac{-\pi}{2}$

clever fjordBOT
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Veni, vidi, perii

frigid canopy
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rather prove it

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So the definition for a limit at infity is

quasi sparrow
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do some simple bounding on the arctan argument

frigid canopy
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$\forall \varepsilon> 0 \exists N | x>N \implies |f(x)-L|<\varepsilon$

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Veni, vidi, perii

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quasi sparrow
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x^2 - x^4 can be bounded more simply

frigid canopy
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yes

quasi sparrow
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and arctan is bounded

frigid canopy
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so $|x-1|<\delta$

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Veni, vidi, perii

frigid canopy
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$|x+1|<\delta+2$

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Veni, vidi, perii

quasi sparrow
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what

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x is going to infinity

frigid canopy
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yes

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the maxima is 1/4

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is that what you meant

quasi sparrow
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no

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,w arctan(-inf)

quasi sparrow
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arctan is bounded between -pi/2 and pi/2.

frigid canopy
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yes

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and x^2-x^4 is bounded between (- \infty , 1/4)

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I think I should do some easier proofs on limit at infty first

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thanks

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can i ask for help here?

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tight crescent
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Of course.

weary vapor
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a,b,c are elements of N numbers. a, b and c arent the same number.
Whats 2a - b + 3c IF a x c = 12 and b/c = a?

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i got that b is 12
cause we know what a is, if we put it in the a x c = 12
its b/c x c = 12. c cancels out and b = 12.

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but i dont know where to go from this

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weary vapor
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sorry if its a stupid question, im not that good at mathematics.

fossil hawk
summer cradle
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there is no equation

fossil hawk
summer cradle
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knowing a*c = 12 doesn’t narrow down the possible values of 2a + 3c to 1

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there aren’t many

summer cradle
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but still more than 1

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Give the examinar all and let him choose

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From the one he wants

weary vapor
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i got the numbers, but i thought maybe i need some sort of equation cause my teacher wants it like that.
if we say
a = 6 b = 12 c = 2 it works

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cause a x c = 12 . 6 x 2 = 12

fossil hawk
weary vapor
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and a = b / c so 6 = 12 / 2

fossil hawk
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1×12 is also 12

summer cradle
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poorly posed question if that’s what’s intended.

fossil hawk
low locust
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well 1x12 is the only one it cant be

fossil hawk
weary vapor
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the question is.
What's 2a - b + 3c IF a x c is 12 and a = b/c

low locust
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can you give an image of the question

weary vapor
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yeah if you know Albanian lol.

low locust
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post it anyway

weary vapor
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If a,b,c are elements of N and a,b,c aren't the same number. What's 2a - b + 3c if a x c = 12 and b/c = a

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theres no numbers given only that sentence

weary vapor
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Nese a,b,c jane elemente te N dhe a,b,c nuk jane numra te njejte. Sa eshte 2a-b+3c nese a*c=12 dhe b/c = a

fossil hawk
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We need the image

weary vapor
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brother, the teacher wrote it on the black board, we put it down, theres nothing else but that sentence

low locust
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uhh. a-c=12 or a*c=12

weary vapor
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sorry, a*c=12. Misstype

low locust
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hmm well then it just doesnt have a unique answer

weary vapor
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i guess its not a equation but you just have to give the numbers you want and see if they apply

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any idea how to integrate this?

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Oh god that’s gonna be tedious

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Hint: complete the square

grim copper
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uh sorry for being dumb but how do I do that

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got it

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Why did he use Pythagorean theorem instead of power reducing formula to simplify

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5^a = 25^1/2

the 1/2 is a fraction

whats ab

steep aspen
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5^a = 25^1/b

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sorry

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wrote it wrong

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1/b is a fraction

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whats ab

quasi sparrow
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use 25 = 5^2

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,tex .exp rules

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lethal spoke
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Oops

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steep aspen
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huh.

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im confused

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what u send that for

quasi sparrow
steep aspen
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5^a = (5^2)^1/b

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what do u do after that

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is that waht u meant

quasi sparrow
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keep using the table until you get 5^a = 5^(something)

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then a = something

steep aspen
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my friend solved it

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but im still abit confused

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how did he get it

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to

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2/b

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and a = 2

tacit wasp
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$$25 = 5^2$$

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Alberto Z.

tacit wasp
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And also $${\left(a^b\right)}^c = a^{b\cdot c}$$

clever fjordBOT
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Alberto Z.

tacit wasp
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So, putting those two observations together, you get: $$25^\frac{1}{b} = {\left(5^2\right)}^\frac{1}{b} = 5^{2 \cdot \frac{1}{b}} = 5^\frac{2}{b}$$

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Alberto Z.

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alright yeah i understand

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summer sage
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PLEASE

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summer sage
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UH

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I DON'T KNOW

errant jewel
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Me neither

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lol

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HELP US

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FR

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I think a) is going to be: B will be (fixed) along the x axis in the direction of 8i

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Procrastination?

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Oh

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so when I got home I just got on roblox

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That’s literally me

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words of wisdom indeed

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Aight imma get back to bench press LOL

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lol

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AND ROBLOX

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# summer sage PLEASE

I think a) is going to be: B will be (fixed) along the x axis in the direction of 8i

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I feel bad for u man😭

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Just play Roblox while u wait man

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it's a sphere

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because B has three components but it equals 8 no matter what you do

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may chatgpt save your soul 🙏

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@summer sage what level math is this?

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basic physics

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it would reference a sphere, however there is no z component to make of it

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working this out rn

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Mm2 is a game?

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murder mystery 2

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lol

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U should play rogue demon

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How do I find the lim x-> 0 f(g(x))

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While f(2) is undefined [defined differently], you know that as x gets closer to zero, g(x) gets closer to 2...

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wait, but how does this work. once i find the inner limit, the expression yeilds lim x->0 f(2)

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how do i find the limit as x approaches 0 of f(2)

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f(2) isn't actually undefined, there's a point at (2,3) but you don't care about that for the limit here

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it isnt clicking for me. the thing is, what in the expression tells me to find the limit of f(x) after finding the inner limit?

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there should be some caveat saying stuff about f being continuous

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that would apply if f is continuous at:
lim as x→a g(x)

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the different conditions of the derivative test also apply to limits I believe

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here the value of the inner function is approaching 2, so you'd consider
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for stuff removeable continuity here, yes

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hexed sluice
# nimble blaze for stuff removeable continuity here, yes

So, to summarize, for a composite function (f(g(x)), if the limit of (gx) as x approaches a exists, and if f is continuos at that limit, I can find the limit of the composiute function by evaluating f at the limit of g(x)? And if f is not continuos at the limit of g(x), then I need to evaluate the limit of the composite function by considering how the outer function f bevhaves as the inner function g(x) approaches its limit?

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What does the 2n change here from a normal n in this induction proof? It is stated that n belongs to all positive whole numbers. So wouldn't n and 2n be the same?

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,rcw

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if n is a positive integer, then that implies that 2n can only be a positive even integer

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But if I try plugging in k/n=2 on both sides I get
k(k+1) = 2(2+1) = 6
And 1/3 * 2(2+1)(7*2+5)
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Since 2 is an even number?

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so we are saying that n = 1. so we get
(sum from k = 1 to k = 2 of) k(k+1) = 1(1+1) + 2(1+2) = 1(2) + 2(3) = 2 + 6 = 8
on the right side, n = 1:
1/3 n (n+1) (7n+5) = 1/3 (1) (1+1) (7+5) = 1/3 (2) (12) = 24/3 = 8
so both sides match

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I see, that does make more sense. But what if we say that n = 3, would you then have to add all the sums of n = 3, n = 4, n = 5 and n = 6 to get the same result on the right side?

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Since 2n = 6 if n = 3

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help

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$F_{net}=PA$

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hrdxpqurcxktdbanql

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$P(y)=\rho g y$

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hrdxpqurcxktdbanql

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$A(y)=\pi r(y)^2$

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hrdxpqurcxktdbanql

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$r'(y)=\frac{15/2}{12}$

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hrdxpqurcxktdbanql

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we know $r(0)=0$

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hrdxpqurcxktdbanql

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hrdxpqurcxktdbanql

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Therefore

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How do you begin to evaluate the limit of e^x - 1 / x as x approaches 0? Can't seem to find any examples of this problem in our library's calculus books

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l'hopital's rule

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if f(x)/g(x) is indeterminate, evaluate f'(x)/g'(x) instead

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I wonder how you could do it without tht

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Are there any other way other than l'hopital? Or is it the only possible solution?

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You can see the expansion.

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,w expand e^x

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good idea

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but honestly l'hopital's is just generally simpler

signal yacht
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some instructors don't like it

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which makes sense

cursive field
signal yacht
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it's more or less a crutch

cursive field
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this is a more logical way of looking at the limit

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cursive field
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ah okay

signal yacht
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sometimes evaluating it otherwise is easier than taking derivatives

cursive field
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you can use percy's method of looking at the taylor series

signal yacht
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seems easiest

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I'll do that. Thanks!

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whats it called, the set of a+bsqrt2 where a and b are rational numbers. field extension?

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Q[sqrt 2]

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$\mathbb Q[\sqrt 2]=\mathbb Q(\sqrt 2)$

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$\mathbb Q\subset \mathbb Q(\sqrt 2)\subset \mathbb R$

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the middle field is the smaller one which contains the rationals number and $\sqrt 2$

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sterile blaze
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like in conversation

cursive field
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Q adjoin root 2

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adjoin not adjoined

sterile blaze
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also is Q[sqrt2] the same as Q[x] with the relation x^2=2

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you can also say

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no

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mhm

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thanks ren

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the map without the first quotient is trivially surjective

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im back

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sanity check but 46 is false? taking R2 under addition. the x axis and y axis are subgroups. but their union isnt closed

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how isn't it closed?

sterile blaze
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basic linear algebra: the two basis vectors in R^2 span the entire plane

sterile blaze
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(1,0)+(0,1)=(1,1) which isnt in the x or y axis

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oh wait i misread ur statement

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but it says union. not product

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lmfao mb

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yeah ur correct

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mb mb

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yay

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what about what everg said

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?

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what about it

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is the first map ever not an isomorphism?

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it's always an isomorphism lol

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oh

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oki ty

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those are quite literally the same ring

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everg n ren

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same guy with a different hat

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$\mathbb Q[x]\to\mathbb Q[\sqrt 2]$ this actually is only surjective..so that you need to consider the quotient ring

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im not too sure how to go about it

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i got x^2=x^-2 as well

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not sure what else i can do

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ive to show xy=yx

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Have you proven that inverses are unique

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isnt that always true in groups

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yes it is

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yea

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is there any hints

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that isnt outright the solution haha

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I suspect that there is some element that both xy and yx are inverses for

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(I've not found it yet, so this might be dead end)

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haha

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might be tricky

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i'm getting x^2 = y^-2

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ill leave it here for now and continue trying

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and stuck

sterile blaze
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wait i must've messed up

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hahaha

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$y=1\implies x=x^{-1}$

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hi everg

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ohhh

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wait i might be able to do it now

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hence $xy=(xy)^{-1}=y^{-1}x^{-1}=yx$

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does this be true?

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,, \frac{a}{b} = \frac {b^{-1}}{a^{-1}}

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can you fil this in

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what is a zeta function

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"Given three linearly independent vectors (A,B,C), create a vector X, which has the same angle towards A,B,C". I've found a formula for the vector X with cycle properties but im stuck at finding the coefficients.

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"(HInt) Write X as a linear combination of A, B,C and find coefficents"

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k is just some variabel so I could think

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Can someone help me solve it:

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Looks gross but perhaps straightforward using L'Hopital's rule. Have you tried that?

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I tried that let me show you what I got, this is disgusting really

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What now? lol

meager juniper
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Well, limit as x -> 0 on this thing is still 0/0 it seems

mystic saffron
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Yeah, I can use L'Hopital again but to what end?

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Madness mostly

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How about using the product rule of limits first?

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I can try

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Oh

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@mystic saffron the derivative of the bottom is slightly incorrect. You forgot the rest of the chain rule, but it doesn't affect the fact that it's 0/0

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I got this now, can I continue from here somehow?

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,w lim x to 0 of log(1+cx)/x

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i am stuck on 2c
what ive come up with is that there are 4! arrangements for each couple, then because each couple can swap seats, this makes it 4! * 2^4. is this correct?

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how do you know

onyx cloak
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the same reason you know

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Hi

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4! cuz 4 couples, then each member of a couple can swap seat with each other so and there are 4 couples that can do that so 2^4

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so 4!*2^4

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how can I solve this?

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this is a non exact ode

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so i tried making it exact

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by multiplying with a function

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but thats not working

outer kiln
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right ?

distant umbra
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yea-

outer kiln
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wait ...

sand horizon
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Mdx + Ndy = 0

distant umbra
sand horizon
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oh

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but if you distribute the y in the parentheses ?

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and same for x ?

distant umbra
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del M/del y = 1 + 2xy
del N/del x = 1 -2xy

sand horizon
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so f_1(xy)ydx + f_2 (xy) x dy = 0

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1/Mx - Ny = 1/2x²y²

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there's probably (for sure) a yt video about

distant umbra
sand horizon
distant umbra
sand horizon
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no problem, i've watched it and he's telling good

distant umbra
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he just said that should be the integrating faactor

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is there a proof or something for this

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ydx+xdy=xy(xdy-ydx)
d(xy) = x^3y d(y/x)
d(xy) = (xy)^2 x/y d(y/x)
(d(xy))/(xy)^2 = (d(y/x))/(y/x)
-1/xy = ln(y/x) +c

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it can be converted into an exact

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@distant umbra

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What sre these called

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Cus my professor wont help us and gives us exams w thjs shi

mystic saffron
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exponents

cunning tinsel
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is there a way to find those type of exponent equatinss thkugh

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cause thers nothing we get ffom the professor

limber glade
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you just distribute powers over

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and simplify

cunning tinsel
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easier said than n done when weve got no explanation from our professor

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lethal spoke
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Do you know what greater than is

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mystic saffron
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n<x<m

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remember this visually

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that x lies between n and m where n<m

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I need help

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nimble blaze
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~~expand and ~~ rearrange until you get
stuff > 0
or stuff < 0

blazing quiver
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oh alrthanks

nimble blaze
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factorise

blazing quiver
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Uh

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Wait

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Do I expand em

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And simplify? Or x can be -3 1 or -1

nimble blaze
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you don't need to expand here, ignore what I said about that earlier

blazing quiver
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Cus math is bad idk why

nimble blaze
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both terms have a common factor,
factor that out

blazing quiver
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X

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So x(1+3)(1-1)-(1-1)

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<p

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0

nimble blaze
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no

blazing quiver
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Am I right?

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Oh

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Sh

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Mb

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I'm too dumb

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Wait

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Lemme figure it out

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Do I factor with (x+1)

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Wait nah

nimble blaze
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you'd factor out (x**-**1)

blazing quiver
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How come

nimble blaze
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that's what's present, not (x+1)

blazing quiver
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Oh ok

nimble blaze
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note that x-1 = -(1-x)
you can factor out either (x-1) or -(1-x) depending on personal preference

blazing quiver
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I'll use with -tive sign

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Whats next

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Wait isn't - (x-1) (x+1)

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no

blazing quiver
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Uh

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I'm lost

nimble blaze
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first apply

note that x-1 = -(1-x)

blazing quiver
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Ok

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little cedar
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i need help with some algebra please help

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<@&286206848099549185>

robust wyvern
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well any start on it?

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or like, are u stuck at the beginning?

little cedar
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kinda i know its not no solution and not all real numbers and it is an or not an and

robust wyvern
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sure

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ur whole aim in this situation is to abandon that unknown "u" by itself on one side

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right now, u just have a mess: -3|2-4u| + 5.5

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So we need to simplify this inequality step by step

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any idea how to start off?

little cedar
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distribute the -3

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to the numbers in the bar

robust wyvern
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thats not allowed

little cedar
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really?

robust wyvern
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yeah

little cedar
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ik its what my teacher says

robust wyvern
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the rule of multiplying or distributing with absolute values is |A| × |B| = |A×B|

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but in this case, u have -3

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which is negative

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so u cant

little cedar
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your right

robust wyvern
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any other ways?

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to start?

little cedar
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do 2-4w

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and take the absolute values of the sumbers

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(numbers)

robust wyvern
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no

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u dont know the sign of 2-4u

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it could be negative or positive, depending on the u

little cedar
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i mean does it matter its absolute value

robust wyvern
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yes it does matter

little cedar
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?

robust wyvern
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what if 2 - 4u is negative?

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then its absolute value would be its opposite, 4u - 2

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oops mb

little cedar
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your good

robust wyvern
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thank u ser

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Anyway, u rlly tried everything but the one thing that u have ignored, bud

little cedar
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the 5.5

robust wyvern
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yes

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how do u remove it from that side?

little cedar
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-5.5 and then do it the other side?

robust wyvern
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perfection

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i assume u know how to count so

little cedar
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ye

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-1.1

robust wyvern
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-3|2-4u| < -9.6

little cedar
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no im slow

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your right

robust wyvern
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welp i did it for u anyway

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Now, whats ur next move?

little cedar
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do whats in the absolute value bars

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???

robust wyvern
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u definetly can do that

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but its a bit advanced

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just always leave the absolute values at last when it comes to inequalities

little cedar
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im advanced man im doing alg in 8th grade

robust wyvern
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js try my way

little cedar
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yes sir

robust wyvern
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as i said, absolute value is always at last to be done

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so what do u do next?

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-3|2-4u| < -9.6

little cedar
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get rid of the -3

robust wyvern
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yes, how to?

little cedar
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+3

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on both sides

robust wyvern
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nope

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-3|2-4u| < -9.6

little cedar
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?

robust wyvern
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in this case, the -3 is being multiplied

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not added/subtracted

little cedar
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oh yeah

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so divide

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ahhhhh

robust wyvern
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good, but anything to keep in mind before dividing a negative number in an inequality?

little cedar
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you always switch the inequality

robust wyvern
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u mean sign of inequality

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yes

little cedar
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yea

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i listen a little you know

robust wyvern
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as i said, ill assume u can count, so it becomes |2 - 4u| > 3.2

robust wyvern
little cedar
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okay lets do the absolute vale nect

robust wyvern
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yes

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the thing youve been nagging about non stop since the start

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we can finally do it, since its all absolute value on one side

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now do u have any rules or formulas in mind to advance ?

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|2-4u| > 3.2

little cedar
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subtract then take the absolute vale of the number

robust wyvern
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no

little cedar
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damn

robust wyvern
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sir

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do you know anything about the u?

little cedar
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nope

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i said i listen sometimes

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not all

robust wyvern
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well just a reminder yk

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never remove absolute values if you know nothing about the unknown

little cedar
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hmmmmmm

robust wyvern
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theres a formula u have to apply rn tho

little cedar
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hold up one sec

robust wyvern
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|2-4u| > 3.2

little cedar
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there

robust wyvern
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a formula to apply

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ill give u them four just in case yk

little cedar
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yea your irght

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hold up i just noticed you pfp wtf

robust wyvern
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|x| > a means x > a or x<-a id a is strictly greater than 0

|x| > a means all real numbers if a is less oe equal than 0

|x| < a means -a < x < a if a is strictly greater than 0

|x| < a means no solutions if a is less or equal to 0

robust wyvern
little cedar
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okay

robust wyvern
little cedar
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the first one

robust wyvern
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bravo